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[big campaign] Tracking Update: McCain Town Hall in Denver, CO 10/02/08
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Hello All,Just got off the phone with our tracker, Ryan, on the ground in
Denver. Below are the notes from our call.
Big Highlights
- Says "I've had hundreds of town hall meetings around this country for
many, many years and I've got to say, thanks to you and to you and to you
this is one of the more impactful and *emotional* town hall meetings I've
ever had. *Maybe it's because a women's town hall.*"
- Disabled vet asks him if he'll support Community Choice Act - he
responds that he will continue to examine that legislation and im committed
to fix the problems we have
- Says Obama doesnt have a clear understanding of military and how
important men and women there are.
- Promises to "listen to her [Palin's] arguments" on ANWR (but says they
disagree)
- Says americans are cynical now b/c we're not Big Govt people, he
"know[s]" we "don't need another government-run bureaucracy"; soon after
says it was a "failure of regulation" and oversight that led to the crisis
- Says he loves to blame the media and will blame them for a lot of other
things - but not Fannie / Freddie
- Thanks CO for their water
- Intro speaker, Lisa Shall, says she was afraid to use the C-word,
change - corrects herself in earnest: oh i forgot i was in a group of ladies
-- it's not what you were thinking
Denver, CO: McCain Town Hall 10/02/08
(Disclaimer: The following are notes, not direct quotes. If you'd like a
quotable transcript or video of any part below, please email us.)
Background details
- about 1500 ppl -- venue was packed, seats were all filled + people
standing in aisles
- all white women (a handful of hispanic women, no black);
predominantly middle-aged
- Ticket-only event
- Tracker was told by a video crew member beforehand that event was
pooled, but saw 22 press cameras and 5 still photographers inside the event
- Tracker didn't see any protesters, save 1 guy 'McCain and Bush are the
same' sign [footage not available]
- Pre-event fanfare: state Rep. Amy Stevens led in prayer; unnamed female
emcee
- Lisa Shall makes brief intro remarks
- *i was afraid to use "c-word" -- you know, change-- (corrects
herself in earnest): oh i forgot i was in a group of ladies --
it's not what
you were thinking*
- Cindy NOT in attendance - McCain said she was at home w/ their daughter
- Banner behind mccain read "McCain and Palin Town Hall"
Speech Highlights
- thank you thank you!! ty Lisa for those kind words of intro and thank
you for your success and for employing 500 americans, thank you Amy Caplas.
I can assure you your reward will be in heaven, not earth.
- *as a citizen of AZ, thank you for the water. *Barry Goldwater used to
say we have so little water the trees chase the dogs. most importantly thank
you for your participation in essence of democracy, the town hall meeting. a
chance for me to give you my ideas but also for me to hear from you. america
is hurting tonight, today tmrw yesterday. ppl worried about jobs, homes.
this is tough time in USA. ICYMI, gov. sarah palin going to have a lil
debate tonight. i know she'd be pleased by that incredible response that
she's inspired all over this country. her husband todd is a great father; a
fisherman; he's a 4x world champ of Iron Dog.
- tongiht palin's going to deliver news to me-first-country-2nd
bigspending crowd in DC and this that change is coming change is comng and
some of them aren't going to like it. i cant tell you how proud i am of her
and the inspiration that she has provided to young women and men and every
American. that you can take on these responsibilities and special interests.
she went in front of her oil and gas board and said i'm gonna quit it. as
gov, she cut taxes and gave taxpayers money back. she took on oil and gas
and got pipeline to go down to lower 48.
- this freddie and fannie thing couldnt have happened without collusion
and cooperation with members of congress who had cozy relationships. the
greed and corruption on Wall st and washington.
- we'll keep your taxes low. obama's voted 94 times to raise taxes or
keep them the same. *he talks the talk, youve got to walk the walk*. and
he hasn't. obama's got a line about not raising taxes for 95% of
americans. but he's voted 94 times to raise taxes for 100% of americans.
- i went back to DC when we were facing fiscal crisis. i understand why
americans were cynical, they viewed this as bailout for WS. *we suspended
campaign, ads. i sat down with Congress, esp members of my part. they went
thru the negotiations, legislation was improved and alst night we passed it
thru Senate. *many are still cynical and i understand b/c *we're not big
govt ppl. *we want to be free.
- credit was drying up, ppl were having trouble getting loans.
difficulties in Main St America. if we pass this legislation, which i
believe we will in House, it's like a turniquet, not a cure. itll stop the
bleeding but then we have to set about fixing the situation. its gonna take
a new broom to drain the swamp. ill fix it. time after time, ive taken on my
own party and special interests and Dems, whether it be on climate change
which i think is real, on spending, on out of control spending and i stood
up against the failing strategy at the rt time. in bipartisan way on judges.
with lieberman to put together 9/11 commission. i have a clear record of
putting my coutnry first and being bipartisan. obama doesnt.
- so ill promise that debate tonight, big choice in this election. we all
know DC is on wrong track. if you want reform, this is debate b/t
obama-biden team that talks about change and mccain palin team thats
actually made it happen. they voted for higher taxes, we cut taxes. theyve
proposed $800b spending and we'll veto pork and get spending under control.
- im sure you know what earmark porkbarrel spending is. you might not
know what its been spent on, e.g. DNA of bears, museums and outrageous
projects. obama sought $932M that never saw light of day. we'll cut 2nd
highest corp tax rate. there are stark differences and stark choices. the
american ppl will see what they are. i know how to keep this country safe. i
know how to bring our troops home with honr and victory, not defeat.
- and id like to mention to you brief story of somethin that happened
last Aug: Matthew Stanley story, mccain wears bracelet to make sure soldier
KIA in Iraq didnt die in vain. i take that chrage very seriously. we have 2
sons in military. and had the great honor of serving this country. i believe
i can inspire a gnereation to serve a cause greater than selfinterest.
theres nothing nobler. ive put country first my whole life.
*Quesiton and Answer*
- 1Q) how important is youth vote and what are you 2 doing to GOTV?
- MCCAIN: we have work to do. i have a daughter that just graduated
from Columbia and btw if you know of a job for art history
majors, pls let
me know after this mtg. i have a daughter in high school. we need to use
internet, young americans are using this as their sole source of
news. check
out our website. and then going to the venues, the late-nights,
letterman,
leno, and i did a MTV town hall a while ago. and young americans are
concerned about their future and our work is to "hand them their
future" and
i want to do that
- [back-and-forth banter with voter, McCain says that purple hearts are
most exclusive club in world]
- 2Q) i considered myself a swing voter until recently. i had been laid
off with enron deal, ive lost 2 other jobs. i have a math and engineering
backgrd, im a security guard. cant pay the bills, health care, immigrants
are killing ppl and getting my free health care and i cant even afford to
buy my monthly meds. what are you going to do to help ppl in my situation.
im from adams county, 1 in 4 houses are foreclosing every day.
- MCCAIN: thank you for being here. and your story unfortunately is
being retold all over america today and im glad you told it here b/c you
move me and all americans. 2 aspects to address: (1) job
creation. we've got
to start creating jbos in america. as i mentioned earlier, small
businesses
are the only job creator today in the last pd of time so we have to keep
their taxes low. also, we need to create new opportunities for
these small
businesses. and that brings me back to health care. b/c they're having
biggest problem paying for it. i want to give you and your fam $5k tax
credit so you can go anywhere in america so you can find health
care of your
choice. if you have preexisting condition or cant get health care, i want
fed govt and states to work together so we can assist you get the health
ins. you need. i know *we dont need another govt-run bureaucracy*. if
you like govt-run health care, go to canada or britain adn see
if you like
it. obama wants to force ppl and create govt-run bureaucracy.
- MCCAIN: who's being hurt most by high price of gas? lowest-income
americans. thats why the high cost of energy is so harmful to ppl of low
income. we have to stop spending $700B to countries that dont
like us very
much. i want you to be able to afford your transportation. i
want wind, tide
solar and all those that will help us create jobs. if we build
45 nucl pwr
plants by 2030, thatll create 45k jobs. thatll have direct
relation to wind,
tide, solar. obama has voted 42 times to raise or keep your taxes, ,has
voted to raise taxes on those making as little as $42k / yr. im
willing to
have govt step in and help for health care. for those who cant
get it, we'll
have GAPs. we'll create jobs and keep taxes low on small
businesses. all so
we can get america back on track again. and that includes cleaning up
washington so your tax dollars arent wasted. sorry to take so long to
answer. our hearts and our thoughts are with you. you are what
we have to do
for america. you have jsut articulated it in the most compelling fashion.
every time i meet someone like you, you renew my commitment.
- *3Q)* i cant expres my gratitude for serving.* as a vet, i see a lot of
fellow vets coming back that end up in mental institutions and head
injuries. Community Choice bill (senate bill #99). will you support it?*
- *MCCAIN: i will continue to examine that legislation and im
committed to fix those problems that we have. o*n vet health care,
theres a situation with iraqi and afgh. war vets, we have
increased PTSD -
its 1 of toughest wars weve ever fought in. we're able to take more from
battlefield to care, but there are severe wounds. we need to expand VA in
capability to care for wounded warriors. theres a problem w/
wounded vets.
[baby cries] thank you for bringing her. too often theres not sufficient
care and treatment for women vets. we have an ever larger # serving in
military, but we've not expanded facilities to give them care they need -
that mgiht be true in your case. for ordinary medical treatment
needed for
our vets, we need to give them a card. so they dont have to
stand in line to
stand in line. and next time they need care, just take that card
and go to
their doc. i want to thank you for serving and ive been very
touched already
for this chance to be with you all.
- 4Q) you and your oppo have differences on # of issues. which do you
think most affects most americans?
- MCCAIN: i think its a fundamental disagreement on who is best to
help econ whether it be lower taxes and less govt and affordable health
care and obama has record of wanting govt to do jobs citizens
should do, he
creates bureacracies that are unnecessary, *he doesnt have a clear
understanding of military and how important men and women there
are.*this isnt right time to increase spending, he wants $800B more.
we need to
reduce, now we have thsi debt to china that we our govt let happen. it
depends on what you think role of govt is. we need lower taxes, more
opportunities incl. choice and opportunity in school system adn
how we keep
america safe. reform, peace and prosperity. and thats where we
have starkest
difference as youve seen in a long time. and taking on the
special interests
even when its your own party. obama has never taken on party
leaders on any
issue. ill take on all of them.
- 5Q) im a small business owner. weve had 2 yrs of hell. 9/10 times -
what do we do about the media? the media is killing the car business, the
real estate business. [cheers]
- MCCAIN: um. [pauses, crowd cheers] i do believe that there are many
occasions when media exaggerates and perhaps not be as accurate as we'd
like. [laughter] but let me say very seriously i think that 1 of
the biggest
causes of this problem wasnt so much the media- in fact theyre not
responsible for fannie and freddie-* i love to bash the media all the
time* - but the beginning of this crisis was such a corrupt system in
DC, Freddie and fannie were out of control, their execs got
exorbitant pay
pkgs and they encouraged risky behavior, while members of Congress were
complicit in not trying to rein in and even encourage this kind
of behavior.
and that was the major catalytic factor in bringing us here. that combo'd
with greed in WS. not the media's fault, but* failure of regulation,
oversight, failure of Congress and watchdog orgs in reining it in*. i
proposed 2 yrs ago legislation that wouldve reined in Freddie
and Fannie. id
love to blame the media, ill blame them for a lot of other
things, but not
this.
- 6Q) [MCCAIN: i like your shirt] has palin convinced you that drilling
in ANWR is one of best things to relieve energy crisis?
- MCCAIN: *now thats what happens when you think youre gonna get a
softball question b/c youre wearing a mccain-palin tshirt.* we've
gotta drill offshore and drill now. we have a disagreement on that but
*i promise ill listen to her arguments.* we'll drill offshore and
drill now.
- 7Q) when are you gonna take the gloves off and just go at it? [crowd
cheers]
- MCCAIN: how about tue night? [crowd cheers] i, i , may i say i
respect obama for what he's achieved, his success, the fact that
he was able
defeat a remarkable woman senator from NY, HRC is formidable
candidate. what
ill try to do is describe our stark differences and different paths we'll
take nation on. thats respectful. he says he'll not raise taxes on 95% of
ppl but has voted 94 times to. he said he would support the troops but
no. health care.
- 8Q) youve said youll ruffle feathers in DC. specific examples?
- MCCAIN: i have done that. when i saw that big money and soft money
contributions were going to members of Congress and they would call up
these special interests and say i need X number of $s and btw your
legislation is up in front of committee. and there are some in federal
prision. i investigated a guy named abramoff, he was one of most pwrful
lobbyists in DC and i knew he was GOP. i took on my party there,
on campaign
finance too. when i saw everything was gonna blow up on nomination of
judges-- the most important duty-- i said we have to join
together Dems and
GOPs. obama had choice to do it, he didnt. he's never reached
across on any
significant issue that everyone else hasnt. in 2000, young ppl asked what
we'll do about global warming. i travelled around and saw it.
lieberman and
i proposed a way that would try in effective way to alleviate
this and that
went against many of my party. not that i sought to challenge my
party but
it happened. and on iraq, i went there and saw it was being badly handled
and sought a change. then they said my campaign was finished. i
said then,
ill say now, id rather lose a political campaign than a war.
palin has done
the same in AK. we've got to take them on, regardless of party, of who is
making campaign contributions. i have a clear record of that. obama has
never taken on his party leadership on any issue. we'll continue
when palin
and i are Pres and VP.
- 9Q) i just turned 18. given the economy, what policies will you support
to make college more affordable?
- MCCAIN: thats a vital ingredient to future of USA, an educated and
welltrained work force, incl. science and engineering. it also
means we have
to retrain our workers. we have to make student loans more
available. costs
of colleges are going up. state institutions are more affordable
we need to
expand those. id like to not reburden you immediately after
graduation with
repayment of student loan. we should give you some time to repay it. lets
give them some yrs of breathing space with no interest on that
loan so when
they move up the economic ladder, theyll be able to afford repayment. we
need to understand the inflation on these costs are far exceeding normal
inflation, we have to look into why. part of this crisis that we're in is
that there are banks like Wachovia which is responsible for student loans
are in trouble. you should pay back loans when youre capable of doing so.
- audience member- i want to give you this reason designed by niece of
someone who raised flag at iwo jima to acknowledge that you and ppl like
you, the integrity and honor youll bring to this country. youll be an
extraordinary role model and we'll have confidence to put country in your
hands.
- ive had hundreds of town hall mtgs in this country. *i have to say
this is one of the most emotion**al, maybe b/c its a women's town
hall mtg.*
- 10Q) i recently left my career to be home with my kids. im 31.
with Social Security benefits, where are they gonna be when my children need
them and whatll you do to change that?
- MCCAIN: Straight talk: Social Security in its present form will not
be there when you reach retirement. americans have to understand that. we
have an obligation to you. we'll now have a system that even
though you pay
into it, they'll not have present benefits. it's disgraceful.
Medicare. it
cries out for-- if we have problem of burdening you with debt we
have now,
shouldnt we sit down together in bipartisan way? we're not doing
it. we're
putting it on younger generation of Americans. last time, reagan and tip
o'neill fixed Social Security, and they did and it was tough
medicine. and
itll be tough medicine this time. i dont want to raise anyones
taxes, but we
have an obligaiton to you.
- MCCAIN: can we do 1 more with the baby there? i cant resist.
- 11Q) if obama raises taxes on ppl with more than $250k, wont they pass
it on so we'll all have tax increase?
- MCCAIN: yes. i dont think that at this time in history that we
should raise anyones taxes. *we shouldnt raise taxes.* obama has had a
multitude of differnet positions on this issue. americans should look at
record--not rhetoric--but the record that obama has favored an
increase in
taxes and has repeatedly voted for it. as i mentioned, my friend
and running
mate will be in debate tonight soon. and i know she'll do very well and i
want everyone cheering her on. id appreciate it if youd keep us in your
thoughts and prayers in next 30 days.
- CO will be key in deciding next POTUS. i need your vote and your
help GOTVing and making sure we win in CO. i want to assure you again ive
had the great honor and privilege of serving country for long,
long time. we
might disagree on a certain issue, but ill always do whats right for the
country. i ty for your support. we can win.
--
Sara DuBois
Tracking / Communications Manager
ProgressiveAccountability.org
[email protected]
202-609-7681 (office)
410-967-7306 (cell)
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