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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:31 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re:
ok, but harry was told by max that he , max needed d=tailed financial inforrmation first , and harry repeated he wanted
t= sit with you face to face first . so you have your work cut out for=you
On =hu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Noam Chomsky < ><=span> wrote:
On vision,=l know of some evidence that social interaction (mother-neonate) facilitat=s depth perception, but
it's years ago. Maybe there is more now.=C240 But the experimental work has been with isolated individuals (kitten=,
mainly, I think), and seems to yield normal vision with early patterned =timulation. Let's talk about it some day.
l&#=9;ve thought about your suggestion. I think it's better to do it=step by step, not bringing up issues of legal
implications unless it's=necessary. I'll write them renewing the request to replace Max b= Richard Kahn, along the lines
that we discussed by phone: that I simply c=n't trust Max and want someone trustworthy. I'd also like to=give the gist of
the memo, in particular that the marital trust is designe= for those who established it, the IRA as backup.
On Thu= Dec 7, 2017 at 4:03 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
like th= military, can be good for an individual . b=t needs a group. I think "understanding=quot;
might be similar as a group function as the visual syste= is for the individual. . it needs collective input and =hen with a
recursive interations focuses on a concept4=A0
you should have the call with your children asap. =C240 feel free to send them debras memo so they
see what you =ee. her privlege argument makes no sense. 4>=A0 you WANT the other side to see your justifications
for your posit=on. she is just trying to stay out of the mix. j>=A0 as she has done virtually nothing to get you what you
clearly are=entitiled to. shameful
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Noam Chomsky &l=;nchomsky3@gmail.=om
<mailto > wrote:
If done properly, like offering free and creative opportunities for kids,=I think it can be good for
the individual.
And with you= immense help, for which I can't express enough gratitude, we're w=rking our way
through it I think
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On Wed, Dec 6, 20=7 at 9:09 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:=br>
no question in my mind =hat it is a huge benefit for the group. but my conjectur= is
that it is not necessarily good for the individual. . Q=A0 like being a hero ( throwing yourself on a grenade ) = good for
the group not so good for the hero. . 4,=A0 as writing forces a linear slow pace. I wonder =f in a large population ,
handwriting wiill be correlated with=G . anyway , I need to get my mi=d off the way you have been getting screwed.
drives me crazy..C2*
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:51PM, Noam Chomsky < =a»
<mailto > wrote:
Go=d to have a fun note.
I suspect that forcing children t= do anything is probably harmful. But it's
possible to introduce=writing and (secondarily) reading in a way that seems to enhance thinking..C2* That's the idea
behind "invented spelling" (here's=a link to some of the work:
https://pages.wustl.edu/files/pages/imce/treiman=Read%20%26%20Treiman_Childrens_Invented_Spelling_final.pdf
<https://pages.wustl.edu/files/=ages/imce/treiman/Read%20%26%20TreimanChildrens InventedSpelling_final.p=f>
).=C240 Back in the early '50s, a philosopher friend of mine (Israel Sch=ffler) brought me some pages on which his two-
year old son had written thi=gs that he thought were gibberish, wondering if I could make something of =t. It was
immediately obvious that the kind had learned the names of=the letters and was spontaneously stringing them together
to express himse=f in writing. And making interesting generalizations. Thus the=letter "A", pronounced /ey/, he used
for the words "came,&q=ot; "pet", "pat"; the letter "i", pronounced=/ay/, he used for "pie", "pot," "butt" . And=so on. It
all made sense. Our kids did the same thing. C=rol wrote some papers about it, Charles Read and others carried it
forward= Turns out to be a great way to teach reading too. Kids spontaneousl= express themselves, often in creative
way, and the transition to official=orthography is not that difficult now that they have the general idea.
There's a debate about it in educational circles,=and though I haven't followed
it, my impression is that old-fashioned =arcing into a mold probably wins out, undermining the joy of self-expressi=n and
possibly reading.
As you may know, Galileo regarded in=ention of the alphabet as among the
greatest of all human inventions. Can =o no better than quote his own words. He regarded the invention of t=e
alphabet as "surpassing all stupendous inventions," asking =E24,40what sublimity of mind was his who dreamed of
finding means to communicate his deepest though=s to any other person, though distant by mighty intervals of place
and time! =f talking with those who are in India; of speaking to those who are not yet b=rn and will not be born for a
thousand or ten thousand years; and with what facility, by the different arrangements of twenty characters upon a
page!=E2Q,
Shortly after, the same observati=n was made about the more fundamental
matter of sounds (Port Royal Grammar= 1660). I discovered all of this about 50 years ago and wrote about =t. Unknown
then, still unknown, in my view some of the most profound=insights in the human sciences.
Smart guys, the f=unders of modern science.
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:48 AM, jeffrey E. &=t;jeevacation@g=ail.com
<mailto:[email protected]» wrote:
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on a more fun note. is is pos=ible that learning how to write and read, in fact
slows down your th=nking process. forcing children to write and organize th=ir thoughts in a medium that does not
lend itself to speed. is=not natural?
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