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me shake the bushes. On May 21, 2015, at 12:28 PM, John Podesta <[email protected]> wrote: Per our conversation this am. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ken Gude" <[email protected]> Date: May 21, 2015 10:49 AM Subject: Defending progressives/HRC on national security in 2016 cycle To: "John Podesta" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Hi John - Hope that you are well. I will try and keep this as brief as possible. I have been approached by several former staffers of the National Security Network who are concerned that the existing infrastructure on the progressive side to defend progressives and HRC on national security policy this cycle is not anything like the capabilities that existed in the 2008 cycle. And it is a crucial weakness as it looks as if the GOP will be emphasizing national security and whatever their recent stumbles on Iraq, they can't be underestimated given the state of the world. I agree with them. Richard Fontaine told one former NSN staffer when he joined CNAS that NSN was the biggest pain in the ass during the McCain campaign. Fontaine said every time they made a statement on foreign policy, minutes later NSN would issue a press release about why it was stupid. NSN doesn't do that kind of work anymore as by necessity it has evolved into much more of a policy-oriented shop over the last eight years as it has received more foundation funding. Truman never did that. And CAP and ThinkProgress are certainly in this space and did good work in 2008 and likely will again, but we're not focused on this aspect 100% of the time. We think that it is necessary to rebuild this capability. It can be a part of the existing structure of outside groups supporting HRC or it could be its own free-standing group. I know of at least four people who would be interested in participating in this effort, including myself. Please let me know if you think this is a worthwhile idea. My best, Ken Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: by 10.25.24.103 with SMTP id o100csp346915lfi; Thu, 21 May 2015 09:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.9.66 with SMTP id x2mr2997411laa.36.1432226090396; Thu, 21 May 2015 09:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com. 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On May 21, 2015, at 12:28 PM, John Podesta <[email protected]> wrote: Per our conversation this am. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ken Gude" <[email protected]> Date: May 21, 2015 10:49 AM Subject: Defending progressives/HRC on national security in 2016 cycle To: "John Podesta" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Hi John - Hope that you are well. I will try and keep this as brief as possible. I have been approached by several former staffers of the National Security Network who are concerned that the existing infrastructure on the progressive side to defend progressives and HRC on national security policy this cycle is not anything like the capabilities that existed in the 2008 cycle. And it is a crucial weakness as it looks as if the GOP will be emphasizing national security and whatever their recent stumbles on Iraq, they can't be underestimated given the state of the world. I agree with them. Richard Fontaine told one former NSN staffer when he joined CNAS that NSN was the biggest pain in the ass during the McCain campaign. Fontaine said every time they made a statement on foreign policy, minutes later NSN would issue a press release about why it was stupid. NSN doesn't do that kind of work anymore as by necessity it has evolved into much more of a policy-oriented shop over the last eight years as it has received more foundation funding. Truman never did that. And CAP and ThinkProgress are certainly in this space and did good work in 2008 and likely will again, but we're not focused on this aspect 100% of the time. We think that it is necessary to rebuild this capability. It can be a part of the existing structure of outside groups supporting HRC or it could be its own free-standing group. I know of at least four people who would be interested in participating in this effort, including myself. Please let me know if you think this is a worthwhile idea. My best, Ken --089e01494248574e6a05169a1f49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Let me shake the bushes. =C2=A0<br= ><br><br></div><div><br>On May 21, 2015, at 12:28 PM, John Podesta <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:= <br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><p dir=3D"ltr">Per our convers= ation this am.</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:= "Ken Gude" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">kengude@gmai= l.com</a>><br>Date: May 21, 2015 10:49 AM<br>Subject: Defending progress= ives/HRC on national security in 2016 cycle<br>To: "John Podesta"= <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&g= t;<br>Cc: <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a>><br><br type=3D"attribution"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi John -=C2=A0<div><br= ></div><div>Hope that you are well. I will try and keep this as brief as po= ssible.</div><div><br></div><div>I have been approached by several former s= taffers of the National Security Network who are concerned that the existin= g infrastructure on the progressive side to defend progressives and HRC on = national security policy this cycle is not anything like the capabilities t= hat existed in the 2008 cycle. And it is a crucial weakness as it looks as = if the GOP will be emphasizing national security and whatever their recent = stumbles on Iraq, they can't be underestimated given the state of the w= orld. I agree with them.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Richard Fontaine to= ld one former NSN staffer when he joined CNAS that NSN was the biggest pain= in the ass during the McCain campaign. Fontaine said every time they made = a statement on foreign policy, minutes later NSN would issue a press releas= e about why it was stupid.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>NSN doesn't d= o that kind of work anymore as by necessity it has evolved into much more o= f a policy-oriented shop over the last eight years as it has received more = foundation funding. Truman never did that. And CAP and ThinkProgress are ce= rtainly in this space and did good work in 2008 and likely will again, but = we're not focused on this aspect 100% of the time.</div><div><br></div>= <div>We think that it is necessary to rebuild this capability. It can be a = part of the existing structure of outside groups supporting HRC or it could= be its own free-standing group. I know of at least four people who would b= e interested in participating in this effort, including myself.=C2=A0</div>= <div><br></div><div>Please let me know if you think this is a worthwhile id= ea.</div><div><br></div><div>My best,</div><div>Ken</div></div> </div> </div></blockquote></body></html> --089e01494248574e6a05169a1f49--