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To: McCaffrey, Carlyn
From: Jeffrey Epstein
Sent Sun 2/10/2013 11:31:01 PM
Subject: Re:
we could do a combination , we could do some your investment partnership for some, .
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:24 PM, McCaffrey, Carlyn < wrote:
I know that the relationship between the strike price and current value are important factors in
determining the price of an option but aren't the length of the option and the volatility of the
stock also very important? If there are no 10 year publicly traded options we would have to
get an appraisal.
Are you sure that a purchase be LB of the partnership interest followed by a sale by him of a call
isn't caught by 16b?
On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:37 AM, "Jeffrey Epstein" <[email protected]> wrote:
1. according to the strike, price, 2. the economic effect can be manged in the
document. 3, security wise lock up is only concern as long as it happens near the
same time and is not deep in the money, 4, the price of the option reflects the
risk of that,
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM, McCaffrey, Carlyn wrote:
What would the price of a 10 year option be?
Although he can buy the PS interest , the call will have to be on the stock itself.
Your structure bypasses 2703 because LB will never deliver the stock pursuant to the
option. The economic effect, however, is the same. That's why some think it
doesn't work.
What are the securities law consequences ofLB buying stock and the selling a call?
Does the purchaser of a publicly traded call risk the possibility that the stock value will not
increase because all the growth will be paid out in dividends?
On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Jeffrey Epstein" <jeevacationAgmail.com> wrote:
good first try, yes call options are publicly traded, we would do
five to ten year terms„ he could purchase the partner ship interest i
guess, valuation the issue , he could decide on how much, we
wouldn't need to bypass 2703, the stock would be MI value but
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there would be an liability against it , which could not be ignored.
he would not need much money to live as he would have the full
dividends.
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, McCaffrey, Carlyn
wrote:
I agree (although at least one of my partners does not) that you can
avoid the reach of section 2703 with a cash settled option.
How would we price the option? Are call options on the stock publicly
traded? How are dividends treated under the normal stock option?
Here's how I understand your proposal.
Step 1- LB buys stock from Trust (T) for $1B. LB issues a $1B note to T
bearing interest at X%. and secured by a lien on his art. We need to
discuss what X should be. We also need to think about the mechanics
which are made a little difficult by the fact that the stock is held in a
partnership. We also need to think about the fact that much of his art is
already subject to a lien held by US Trust.
Step #2 - LB sells a 2 year call to T. The price for the call is $.18
(obviously, a rough estimate); the strike price is the current market
price.
Step #3 - During the 2 year period of the call, LB spends the $.1B on
living expenses, taxes, art, etc.
Step #4 -Alternative 1- the $18 worth of stock is now worth $1.2 8. LB
owes T .2 Billion. He issues a note to settle the option. No income tax
consequences because of grantor trust rules. The trust is ahead but not
as much as it would have been if it hadn't entered into the transaction
but LB's spending needs have been taken care of.
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Step #4 - Alternative 2 - the $16 worth of stock is still worth $18. LB
owes T nothing. T has lost .18, but LB's spending needs have been
taken care of.
Step#5 - LB sells another 2 year call to T, etc.
There are no income tax consequences because of the grantor trust
rules.
What are the securities law consequences? Are any of these
transactions covered by Rule 16b? Do these transactions have to be
reported?
Is this what you had in mind?
Carlyn S. McCaffrey I Partner
McDermott Will & Emery LLP 1340 Madison Avenue, New York, NY 10173
From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto:teevacatioraamail.00M1
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:11 PM
To: McCaffrey, Carlyn
Subject:
i have reviewed the 2703 regs, i don't see the issue, if the trust buys an option, at
market, today and the stock goes up, the stock gets valued at the
fair market , but the cash settled option comes due reducing the
value of the estate. , bringing the same net result. and even better
if debra gets the stock with a step up, what am i misssing?
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