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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE
FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN
AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
Case No. 502009CA040800XXXXMB
JEFFREY EPSTEIN,
Plaintiff,
VS.
SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually,
BRADLEY EDWARDS, individually,
Defendants/Counter-Plaintiffs.
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
DATE TAKEN: Wednesday, September 6th, 2017
TIME: 8:54 a.m. - 9:09 a.m.
PLACE 205 N. Dixie Highway, Room 10C
West Palm Beach, Florida
BEFORE: Donald Hafele, Presiding Judge
This cause came on to be heard at the time and place
aforesaid, when and where the following proceedings were
reported by:
Sonja D. Hall
Palm Beach Reporting Service, Inc.
1665 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1001
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
(561) 471-2995
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3 APPEARANCES:
4 For Plaintiff:
5 SEARCY, DENNEY, SCAROLA, BARNHART &
SHIPLEY, P.A.
6 2139 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard
West Palm Beach, FL 33409
7 By JACK SCAROLA, ESQUIRE
8 For Jeffrey Epstein:
9 W. CHESTER BREWER, JR., P.A.
250 S. Australian Avenue, Suite 33401
10 West Palm Beach, FL 33401
By W. CHESTER BREWER, JR., P.A., ESQUIRE
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12 For Defendants:
13 TONJA HADDAD, P.A.
315 S.E. 7th Street, Suite 301
14 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
By TONJA HADDAD COLEMAN, ESQUIRE
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1 THE COURT: Mr. Scarola, Ms. Haddad,
2 Mr. Brewer.
3 MR. BREWER: Good Morning, Your Honor.
4 MS. HADDAD: Good morning.
5 THE COURT: I think I have seen it
6 before. Please make sure you send in
7 materials in advance.
8 It was reset, so it might have created
9 a little bit of a problem.
10 MS. HADDAD: Your Honor, this was sent
11 to your office -- I have a copy of the
12 letter right here -- on August 28th.
13 THE COURT: Again, I don't have it here
14 in front of me, but don't worry about it.
15 MR. SCAROLA: It is only a motion to
16 set a hearing, Your Honor.
17 THE COURT: That's fine. Not the end
18 of the world.
19 So this is a motion for summary
20 judgment; is that correct?
21 MR. BREWER: Yes, Your Honor.
22 MS. HADDAD: Yes, Judge.
23 THE COURT: How much time you think we
24 are going to need?
25 MR. BREWER: We anticipate about an
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1 hour, Your Honor.
2 THE COURT: Mr. Scarola, any thoughts?
3 MR. SCAROLA: Your Honor, this is a
4 renewed motion for summary judgment.
5 Your Honor may recall a motion for
6 summary judgment was heard before Your
7 Honor. Your Honor granted the motion for
8 summary judgment. There was an appellate
9 review of that ruling and a reversal sending
10 the case back.
11 As a consequence we believe the hearing
12 will not take very long at all, because
13 there are procedural issues that will
14 preclude reraising the arguments that have
15 been raised in this motion.
16 Nonetheless, I think that setting an
17 hour aside is not unreasonable.
18 THE COURT: What is the motion based
19 on? We went through the issue of malicious
20 prosecution and abuse of process.
21 I believe the only remaining claim,
22 then, is a malicious prosecution claim,
23 correct?
24 MS. HADDAD: Yes, Judge. The only
25 remaining claim is malicious prosecution.
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1 And the Court granted the motion solely --
2 THE COURT: I remember. And the Fourth
3 District was quite kind, perhaps to
4 alleviate some of the appellate's concerns
regarding whether or not the law was
6 properly followed. And Judge Warner wrote,
7 what I thought to be a very complimentary
8 opinion regarding the following of the law
9 by the Court.
10 Ultimately that case -- the Fabricant
11 case, which was Judge Blanc's case -- went
12 up on conflict review to the Florida Supreme
13 Court, and they followed the Fourth District
14 Court of Appeal's position.
15 So just for the record, I recognize and
16 remember the entire history, at least to the
17 extent indicated.
18 MS. HADDAD: Thank you, Judge.
19 THE COURT: So what is the gravamen of
20 the motion as we sit here today?
21 MS. HADDAD: The gravamen of the
22 motion, Judge, are the grounds that were not
23 argued at the initial motion for summary
24 judgment, for which we asked for an hour
25 We believe an hour is sufficient.
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1 THE COURT: So you are talking about
2 some or all of the six or so prong analysis
3 when malicious prosecution claim is brought?
4 MS. HADDAD: Yes, Judge. The abuse of
5 process claim has been disposed of in our
6 favor, and we are only moving forward to
7 attack the elements of the malicious
8 prosecution claim, you are correct.
9 THE COURT: All right, well, as luck
10 will have it, next Friday is the calendar
11 call for this coming docket. And, of
12 course, we have no idea where we are going
13 to be come next week. So at this stage, I
14 don't have a problem putting you on the
15 September 15th docket.
16 I presume we are going to be having a
17 significant number of motions relating to
18 this case. Is that fair?
19 MS. HADDAD: Very fair, Judge, yes.
20 MR. SCAROLA: I would disagree. But
21 knowing the inventiveness and resources
22 available to the opposition, it would not
23 surprise me that an effort in that regard
24 were made.
25 THE COURT: Mr. Scarola, don't make me
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1 take out the Kleenex and start wiping my
2 eyes because of the depravation of your
3 client's resources that the firm, that he
4 has wisely retained, is at the controls.
MR. SCAROLA: We consider ourselves to
6 be an adequate match for whatever the
7 resources are on the other side.
8 THE COURT: And just let the record
9 show that we have somewhat of a nervous
10 smile on our faces. We're all concerned
11 about what might be transpiring over this
12 weekend and beyond. So I appreciate the
13 courtesies.
14 But I would expect that -- have you
15 filed any motions in limine yet? Where are
16 we there?
17 MS. HADDAD: Your Honor, we have not
18 yet filed motions in limine. Right now we
19 are still preparing.
20 There are some previous -- I don't want
21 to get involved, because we are here on a
22 five-minute UMC -- but there's some previous
23 discovery that's still not yet been complied
24 with.
25 Unfortunately, yesterday I was just
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1 about ready to finalize them, but my office
2 was being evacuated. I live in a flood zone
3 in Broward County.
4 THE COURT: I understand.
MS. HADDAD: They will be filed before
6 the 15th.
7 THE COURT: I understand. I am not
8 trying to pressure anybody. What I am
9 trying to do is make sure because I don't
10 think that I am being at all presumptuous
11 here that there is going to be motions in
12 limine brought, probably by both sides, and
13 those have to be tackled, and we are running
14 out of time, to be honest with you,
15 especially with the storm season
16 approaching, what we are staring down right
17 now.
18 So, you know, here we are. We don't
19 have those set as yet. My calendar runs
20 September 25th through December 1st, this
21 one coming up, the September docket.
22 MS. HADDAD: Judge, you specially set
23 us the week of December 5th for trial.
24 THE COURT: I am well aware of that,
25 Ma'am, that's why I'm suggesting why haven't
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1 the motions been filed as yet. Seems to me
2 to be somewhat hard to believe that during
3 the pendency of the period of time -- at
4 least from the time the Supreme Court
5 rendered i's decision -- which was when?
6 You remember, approximately?
7 MR. SCAROLA: I don't recall, Your
8 Honor. It has been quite a few months.
9 MR. BREWER: It's been quite a few
10 months, but it hasn't been that long.
11 THE COURT: Well, it's been long
12 enough, is what I'm trying to suggest to
13 you, that there should be motions already
14 filed.
15 MS. HADDAD: Judge, the motions were
16 filed the last three times we were set for
17 trial. The case was stayed, and as such we
18 didn't think it was appropriate to be
19 filling things when the case was stayed.
20 THE COURT: I am not suggesting that,
21 Ma'am. Please don't use that type of tone
22 here.
23 What I am suggesting solely is if they
24 have been filed, then that's fine, then we
25 can find hearing time.
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1 But motions in limine that I believe
2 are going to be necessary to be heard -- and
3 I am not going to suggest what the subject
4 matter is going to be, but I think it is
rather obvious -- if it's obvious to me
6 handling 1,350 cases, plus whatever we are
7 getting now from the foreclosure division,
8 then I don't think I am being overly
9 presumptuous.
10 But in any event, as I said, we are
11 running out of time. Friday comes, and we
12 do have a docket call -- which I'm hoping
13 and praying that we will, simply because it
14 will mean that we are not in the grave
15 danger that we may be -- it's going to be,
16 at least to a degree, somewhat late.
17 I don't hear motions in limine during
18 trial, not those that can be contemplated.
19 Certainly, if something comes up that's not
20 been thought about, then perhaps that might
21 be a possibility. But what I'm talking
22 about is basic issues that I foresee being
23 an issue and being in play, potentially. We
24 need to get rulings on these things rather
25 quickly, in my respectful view.
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1 MR. SCAROLA: I was going to suggest,
2 Your Honor, that if we are going to be
3 gathered together for a motion for summary
4 judgment, we might have a case management
5 conference at the same time, at which
6 deadlines can be set and hearings can be
7 set.
8 I know that we have a motion to compel
9 answers to punitive damage interrogatories
10 over Fifth Amendment objections that have
11 been raised. That's the one motion that I
12 know we have that we would ask the Court to
13 address. That might be a good way to do it.
14 THE COURT: And I appreciate that. I
15 don't want to suggest anything. But I am
16 just -- again, as a former trial lawyer and
17 a judge now for 18 years, I tend to foresee
18 things that I believe are going to be
19 necessary on some of those larger matters
20 that I am dealing with here.
21 Again, I know it's fits and starts. I
22 recognize that. I appreciate it and respect
23 that. But at the same you have to
24 understand that I am trying to manage a
25 docket.
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1 I have set this case for a time
2 certain. And calendar call for this current
3 docket is Friday, next week, a week from
4 today (sic). And --
5 MR. SCAROLA: I'm sorry. Today? Today
6 is Wednesday.
7 THE COURT: I keep thinking today is
8 Friday. I am presuming today is going to be
9 the last day of the week. Excuse me. My
10 apologies.
11 A week from Friday.
12 MR. SCAROLA: I'm trying to make sure
13 we are on the same page.
14 THE COURT: We are.
15 What I'm trying to point out is the
16 simple fact that we are looking at a time
17 crunch here. And I don't want my back to be
18 up against the wall because I am worried
19 about getting things taken care of when they
20 should have already been taken care of.
21 That's the message that I am leaving you
22 with today.
23 So, what I am thinking about doing is
24 probably setting aside a day, if I have
25 it -- I know I have at least one 10-day
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1 medical malpractice case that's set during
2 that docket. And there are a lot of cases
3 that I'm aware of that are lengthy on this
4 coming docket, so I will do the best I can.
5 But what I'm envisioning is perhaps
6 setting something like a day aside --
7 perhaps on a Friday, if I can manage it --
8 in mid-November, and that way, hopefully,
9 you will have the benefit of the Court's
10 ruling. Hopefully, we will have the case on
11 track to be tried, and you will know where
12 we are at that point in time from the
13 standpoint of the issues that are going to
14 be teed up.
15 Your thoughts?
16 MR. SCAROLA: That's certainly
17 satisfactory, Your Honor.
18 THE COURT: You envision motions as
19 well?
20 MR. SCAROLA: Your Honor, the only
21 motion that I envision is the one I
22 mentioned to the Court, motion to compel
23 responses to punitive damage interrogatories
24 over the Fifth Amendment objections that
25 have been raised.
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1 We believe -- I said interrogatories --
2 I believe they are both interrogatories and
3 production requests; things like tax returns
4 that aren't protected by Fifth Amendment
5 privilege.
6 THE COURT: What about depositions?
7 Have you taken Mr. Epstein's deposition
8 already in this case?
9 MR. SCAROLA: We have attempted to take
10 Mr. Epstein's deposition on multiple
11 occasions. He is asserting Fifth Amendment.
12 THE COURT: That's what I'm presuming
13 is also going to be an issue as well.
14 MR. SCAROLA: I might mention that
15 Mr. Epstein has filed an affidavit in
16 support of his summary judgment motion,
17 which we believe needs to be stricken as a
18 consequence of his refusal to participate in
19 pretrial discovery by raising privilege
20 objections. So that will be an issue at the
21 summary judgment hearing, whether the Court
22 can consider an affidavit after Mr. Epstein
23 has declined to participate by answering
24 relevant and material questions during
25 discovery.
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1 THE COURT: That's what I'm talking
2 about. We are going to need time.
3 Again, I don't want this discussion
4 today to suggest that you have to file
anything. Again, it's just generic
6 discussion in the sense that when you are
7 dealing with a case, and you are trying to
8 control the docket, and trying to manage the
9 case from my standpoint, I have got to
10 anticipate certain things that are going to
11 be filed. I haven't seen that yet.
12 MS. HADDAD: Your Honor, as you may
13 recall, last time we were here you ordered
14 Mr. Scarola to -- and vice versa -- to
15 provide a witness list. Once we received
16 that, we have been actively trying to take
17 depositions and set depositions of their
18 witness.
19 It's not a situation in which we are
20 not preparing for a trial and gearing up.
21 We may have additional motions based upon
22 what these witnesses say. We just --
23 unfortunately, Mr. Scarola has been in trial
24 and we have only received limited dates of
25 availability, pursuant to which to take
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1 these depositions. So we are actively
2 trying to move the case forward.
3 THE COURT: All right. Well, I will
4 grant the motion. As I said, my thinking is
5 likely that we are going to be setting
6 aside -- try to set aside -- I am just
7 indicating during the calendar
8 MR. SCAROLA: Would you like us to
9 attend that calendar call, sir?
10 THE COURT: Yes.
11 I will fix this. I will have it sent
12 out today. My JA is gone. Hopefully, Judge
13 Rowe's JA will be able to assist us today.
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1 COURT CERTIFICATE
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7 I, SONJA D. HALL, certify that I was
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9 foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a
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