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From: Joshua Cooper Ramo <
To: Vincenzo Iozzo >, "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: "report" on the EU event
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:25:56 +0000
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a very promising outcome. Excellent contribution to public policy!
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015, 10:58 AM Vincenzo Iozzo < > wrote:
Jeffrey&Joshua,
since both of you helped reviewing the doc I figured I'd share the results and also thank both of you again.
First the things that might be interesting for you in the medium term:
I) The EU is committed to introduce liabilities for software vendors. They are yet trying to figure out how to
do it but I do think it will eventually go through in 3-5 years from now, especially as the IoT stuff becomes
bigger. If that works out it will be a pretty good opportunity to make money in security
2) The EU wants to add to the list of export controlled items stuff like 3d printing, bio engineering and some of
the drones stuff. This will have a number of interesting consequences for various startups (assuming it does
happen)
3) Not security related but I had breakfast with a UK delegation to the EU, they were in Brussels to discuss the
single digital market stuff. Apparently it's quite "scary" in the sense that multiple countries are actually trying
to push to curb services like Netflix to prevail over the local competitors. What's going to happen in the end is
unclear but if that does go through american consumer startups will have some troubles
Now the bragging part:
I) We finally got Privacy International and a couple of other human rights organizations to admit they were
wrong about exploits. Which is awesome because I was tired of people labeling anybody associated with
offensive security as a "merchant of death". Also on twitter:
https://twitter.com/richietynan/status/649510644891435008
2) The EU Commission seems to be ready to leave exploits out of the export control stuff, not a done deal but
that would be awesome
3) The MEP that is sort of driving this essentially incorporated almost all our proposals in her submission to
the Commission.
4) They will try to help to get us in touch with the people at the national level who can get Wassenaar changed.
We are talking with the State Department and the DHS as well, so hopefully by 2016 we'll have a revised
version of WA without the horrible wording on exploits
Overall I think we had an half-victory which is a lot more than what I would have expected! Assuming all of
this goes as planned it will be quite good for the industry because people will be able to do research which
implies that companies will still have to invest heavily in security.
Thanks again :)
V
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