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*Main Topics:* Georgia-Russia conflict, VP speculation, Jerome Corsi, Saddleback Forum *Summary of Shift:* As the conventions loom, the Sunday shows, with several of the likely candidates appearing as guests, focused largely on running-mate speculation. Subjects of debate ranged from the Georgia-Russia conflict, social issues and the Saddleback debate yesterday, to a general rehashing of the judgment vs. experience argument for framing the candidates. On Face the Nation, Senator Bayh said McCain should denounce the Jerome Corsi book. On Fox, media critic Liza Trotta attempted to marginalize opposition to the Corsi book, saying many of the swift boat claims in 2004 were true and that the Obama campaign's 'Unfit for Publication' is 'exaggerating.' Highlights: 1. Georgia-Russia Conflict Leadership a. ABC: Romney Defends McCain response to crisis b. CNN: Richardson slams McCain for pushing to isolate Russia, says engagement is better policy c. CBS: Bayh and Pawlenty discuss McCain's foreign policy credentials, Bayh says McCain should condemn Corsi 2. MSNBC: Jindal touts McCain yet can't name a single 'big idea' proposed by the GOP nominee 3. FNC: Trotta defends swiftboating, says both Obama and Corsi are exaggerating their claims 4. CNN: Hosts praise McCain comment on adultery at Saddleback Forum Highlights, no Clip: 1. ABC: GEORGE WILL: Well, I called Lieberman's office this week and said, "why did your man vote against Alito?" And they said, "he was wrong, now he likes Alito." Clips: *Highlight #1* *Romney Touts McCain Leadership Regarding Georgia-Russia Conflict* (ABC 8/17/08 10:15am) GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Didn't President Saakashvili bring some of this on himself by going into South Ossetia? MITT ROMNEY: *If you mean by becoming a Democracy and standing up for the principles of freedom, did he bring it on himself, I would certainly hope that would not be cause for…* STEPHANOPOULOS: But bringing military action against South Ossetia? ROMNEY: Well certainly when his truckload of policemen attacked by South Ossetians, blown up, then you have a responsibility to protect your citizens as he had communities being attacked by-with rockets coming from South Ossetia so he of course took action to protect his nation. The Russians have been looking for an excuse to punish either the Ukraine or Georgia or flex their muscles in the caucuses and this is something they've been anticipating for some time. And that's why I think it's been so important that frankly *President Clinton listened to John McCain and changed his course back in the 90's you know we are going to let the former Soviet satellite states become part of NATO*. This is something John McCain has fought for. He's been not only in South Ossetia, John McCain has, but also in Georgia time and again. [..] *This shows one more time that in a dangerous and troubled world, it's helpful to have a leader of the nation that knows these places, knows the people, understands the setting*, and John McCain didn't have to search around to figure out what to say. STEPHANOPOULOS: How do you respond to the argument that by pushing for Georgia to be in NATO, by pushing Ukraine to be in NATO, by putting a missile defense system in Czechoslovakia this was seen as belligerent and aggressive by Putin and kind of brought him in? ROMNEY: Well there's no question that Putin with his authoritarian bent – everything from what he's done to the business community in Russia to what he's done to the media in Russia and former employees in Russia – that he has the ambitions of the old Soviet Union to a certain degree. He's certainly more in the direction than Gorbachev or leaders that are looking for a more Democratic state. That John McCain recognized that long term to protect the democracy, and the human rights of the world, that its essential that the former Soviet states become part of NATO. That is the best defense from Russian aggression. […] *This administration has and John McCain is someone who has worked with people around the world and we will work with those that are our strongest enemies, we will sit across the table with them, negotiate,* but of course you also want individuals to know if they take action which is contrary to the interest of freedom and democracy and contrary to our interests, that they'll be consequences. […] I do think when the people of America are reminded of how dangerous the world is, they recognize the importance of selecting a person that has experience and judgment and wisdom, whose actually led in a critical time and bring that to bare in the White House […] *Richardon Slams McCain's Counterproductive Attempts To Isolate Russia *(CNN 08/17/08 11:22am) BILL RICHARDSON: The G8 is a group of industrialized nations meeting, the World Trade organization is meaningful, the point I was trying to make is that Senator McCain wants to isolate Russia, that's the last thing we need to do, we need to engage them. *If you isolate Russia, there's going to be more moves there to radicalism, towards resentment, look they're a major power, they're acting irresponsibly, we have to stand fully with Georgia, but what we need is the European Union we need NATO, we need allies upon allies to say to Russia to say look you gotta stop your expansionist motives.* You've got to stop using oil as a political weapon. […] *Tim Pawlenty and Evan Bayh on McCain's Foreign Policy Stance* (CBS 08/17/08 10:51am) BOB SCHIEFFER: Governor, John McCain says that "We're all Georgians now." He refused in a recent interview to take military action off the table. Under what circumstances do you think the United States should take military action in this kind of situation? TIM PAWLENTY: Well, Senator McCain said last night during the forum with Pastor Warren that he would use a deploy U.S. military assets and forces when the national security interests of the United States were at risk or challenged. I think he's acknowledged that military action in this particular situation is unlikely, but as commander in chief he wants to make sure that all options remain available to him, and that's understandable. But Secretary Gates, most others have recognized that this is going to be handled diplomatically; but Senator McCain has said that we need to deal with this aggressively. One of the questions this crisis raises is, who do you want sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin and people like him? […] Senator McCain… with his experience with national security, military affairs, his clarity, his strength and his judgment in these matters, as you saw with the surge, as you see, even before this crisis broke out, he said last year, we've got a problem, we should be thinking about having Russia be disinvited from the G-8. SCHEIFFER: Do you think Senator McCain went to far, Senator Bye? EVAN BAYH: […] *John… he's a little bit given to this bellicose rhetoric, which has a tendency to inflame conflicts rather than to diffuse them.* PAWLENTY: The surge has been singularly […] one of the main reasons for the turnaround in the war. Senator McCain saw that because his judgment, his experience, his wisdom. BAYH: When John McCain was asked about Barack's 16-month timetable for getting us out of Iraq, he said, well, that sounds like a reasonable timetable to me. […] PAWLENTY: Senator McCain's judgment in these matters is legendary. He's someone of deep experience. You look at the forum last night with Pastor Warren- Senator McCain was crisp, decisive, knew what he was about, knew his values. SCHEIFFER: There are some who say that […] maybe we have some responsibility[…] that we promised the Georgians more than we could or should deliver., should something like this break out. PAWLENTY: […] Well when you look at the reactions of the two candidates, […] Senator McCain came out and said, you know this really is bullying behavior by Russia. […] Senator McCain saying I saw Vladamir Putin, and I saw in his eyes a K and a G and a B, and he's a bully. And who do you want sitting across the table from somebody like Putin? […] I know answer for most Americans is going to be John McCain. BAYH: […]Unfortunately the national security policies of this administration, fully endorsed and supported by Senator McCain, have created a perception of weakness in the world about our country, that we cannot tolerate. The Russians know we are bogged down in Iraq. If we wanted to propose a military deterrent, we're not able to do that very easily now. Because of the Iraq policies that Senator McCain will continue. PAWLENTY: In terms of withdrawing troops from Iraq, […] Senator McCain has said he favors that, but he wants to do it at a time and under circumstances that allow Iraq to be stable, can defend itself, and brings our troops home with honor and victory. […] BAYH: *I wish that Senator McCain would take the opportunity to denounce the book that has come out about Barack Obama, making all sorts of lies and allegations against him. The old John McCain would denounce that. The new John McCain has embraced those tactics. That is unfortunate.* *Highlight #2* Bobby Jindal and Tim Kaine Talk Russia, Health Care, and VP Picks for McCain (NBC 08/17/08 9:30am) BOBBY JINDAL: Well, I think Senator McCain has again shown that he has the judgment, the experience we need during these uncertain times. Just as he was right to call for the surge in Iraq before it was popular, he had called even last year, he had said, we should at excluding Russia from the G-8 He said when he looked in Putin's eyes., he saw KGB very early on . He very forcefully understood this was an attack on a democratic ally, this has regional implications, it has implications beyond Georgia's borders. One of the reasons I think you see folks at Brookings, Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, Georgetown- several experts praising his response including a former Clinton advisor. So I think again what we' ve seen is Senator McCain's got the experience, the perspective.. He was right on Iraq, on the surge, he was right again calling attention to the dangers when Russia invaded a democratic ally. TIM KAINE: I don't know how anyone could say Senator McCain was right on Iraq. I think he's been the sole cheerleader for Iraq, and he's probably the last remaining cheerleader for Iraq. The decision to go into Iraq, which Senator McCain supported, is now acknowledged by folks, including a lot of the Bush Administration, officials who left the administration as a significant mistake. My thought about Senator McCain's tough talk is this: Teddy Roosevelt said talk softly and carry a big stick. In much of the world now we're talking loudly and have not stick, because what we've done is we've so focused on Iraq, that we've let victory escape from our grasp in Afghanistan, and in regions of the world, like Russia, we've let dangers grow more intense. TOM BROKAW: Let's turn to domestic matters in this campaign. KAINE: Senator McCain's strategy is to measure the economy by how the well-off and big businesses are doing. That's why it's tax cuts to the wealthy, and tax cuts to the most profitable and productive businesses like oil companies. […] Senator McCain has said, I don't know much about the economy. It is too risky, at this point in our nation, with the economy so hurt to put a guy in the Whitehouse who says, I don't know much about the economy. [view McCain ad] BROKAW: That's a pretty direct swipe at President Bush, isn't it governer? JINDAL: Well, you know, Senator McCain has a long history of bucking his own party, his own president. Whether it was fighting against earmarks, wasteful spending, and he's got a long tradition of standing on principal, for what he believes is right. […] JINDAL: I think Senator McCain, because he has long fought against the wasteful spending in Washington- I think many conservatives were disappointed the Republicans, both in the Whitehouse and in Congress, didn't control spending. But Senator McCain, for years, has fought members of his own party and the Democratic Party to cut spending, cut corporate welfare, and cut earmarks. BROKAW: *You've talked about the crisis within the Republican Party, that it lost its way, that it used to be the party of big ideas. And now you back Senator McCain. What's the Big Idea that Senator McCain is campaigning on?* JINDAL: […] *Certainly when it comes to domestic issues, he understands the energy crisis is the biggest economic obstacle we face. He understands that it's not one silver bullet. We do need more domestic oil and gas production, we do need nuclear power, we need clean coal, we need conservation-* BROKAW: *But those were Bush/Cheney Big Ideas in 2000. Where are the new Big Ideas of the Republican Party that John McCain is championing?* JINDAL: *You've seen gridlock in DC. You've seen one side only push for oil an gas, you've seen the other side say no drilling. What you've not seen is an aggressive push to get all of that done. Senator McCain's talking about dozens of nuclear reactors. He's talking about the Lexington Project in terms of cutting edge research to break America's dependence on foreign energy. […] Clearly when it comes to addressing our economic crisis, Senator McCain understands we need to have more independence, lower cost energy, more dependable energy, but also lower taxes. He's got a proven track record of fighting wasteful spending. And on healthcare. He understands we don't want the government running our healthcare. We need to make it more affordable, he's proposed refundable tax credits so American families can afford their own healthcare without a bureaucrat tell them how they should get healthcare.* BROKAW: Governor Jindal, would you like to be Vice President? JINDAL: No […] […] BROKAW: […] Senator McCain indicated that he would be open to a pro-choice running mate, like former governor of Pennsylvania Tom Ridge. […] Do you think that would be a mistake that would hurt Senator McCain? JINDAL: […] Senator McCain has a pro-life record, he said he'll have a pro-life administration. What's most important to me, as a pro-life voter, is what kinds of judges will the next president appoint to the Supreme Court. Are they going to be judges that will read the Constitution, […] *Highlight #3* *Fox's Trotta Defends Swiftboating; Says Both 'Unfit for Publication' and 'Obamanation' Are 'Exaggerating'* (FNC 08/17/08 11:50am) LIZ TROTTA: [..] This is Unfit For Publication and it says brought to you by the Bush-Cheney attack machine, which I think is untrue of course. We have both sides here exaggerating what they're claiming. There are a lot of inaccuracies if you will, small ones by the way, misleading comments, unsubstantiated claims, and all of this is being dug up of course by reading the book and making the comparison which a few journalists have had time to do. By in large they are pairing it with the book, the Corsi book prior to this which was about Kerry as you mentioned. That book really was the lead guy on that was John O'Neal who defended the book on Kerry and swiftboating career in Vietnam throughout the campaign. So what we have here is we have journalists resorting to using swiftboats as a verb that meaning that these charge are untrue. So you'll see in most of the stories in the liberal media that Mr. Obama has been swiftboated, i.e. assailed by lies. The fact is that many if not most of the swiftboat claims in the Corsi/O'Neal book were true. So swiftboat has become sort of a synonym for lies which the press is getting way with. ERIC SHAWN: But some warrant, some claim, Kerry was there one month when he was really there for at least several months. But in terms of this book, and what's in this book, and what they're saying about this, is there that comparison? TROTTA: Well the interesting thing about this is that first of all there is not a chorus of witnesses to say that this, to document the claims Corsi is making. Most of the errors, if you read this publication by the Obama campaign concern his early life. For example the day that he was married. The errors get fewer and fewer as you read the book, you get along to domestic and foreign policy. Corsi makes no bones about the fact that he does not want Obama in the White House. And is not shy about why he wrote the book. It's number one on the New York Times bestseller list this week so there are some curious souls out there. As with most of these books, it will make an impression, and not every reader is going to check it against Unfit for Publication which is what Obama's people are saying. SHAWN: 20 seconds left. I mean its not a flattering portrait at all of the Senator rightly or wrongly. TROTTA: No it isnt. And of course its how you look at the Senator and we know that there is a pro-Obama bias in the liberal press. This man doesn't sit there. So again its back to which prism you're looking through. SHAWN: Well again fair and balanced you read both. You read the book and the response if you wanna know about that. *Highlight #4* *CNN Hosts Praise McCain Comment On His Adultery* (CNN 08/17/08 10:50am) [plays clip of McCain saying at the Saddleback Civil Forum that his greatest moral failing was his first marriage] CORRESPONDENT: I don't know I think McCain did something extraordinary when he answered that question, Howie. He addressed an issue that the campaign has had a hard time figuring out how to deal with. They've wanted to confront it, it's out there on the Internet, it's something that Democrats are trying to use against McCain- he put it out there and acknowledged it and he sorta inoculated himself against it. I think that's really going to help him – Obama's answer, you know that was not new information for a 47 year old man to claim that his worst moral failure happened when he was a teenager, I know it's a little disingenuous. So I think it does get some traction going forward there was a lot of news coverage. 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