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*Main Topics:* 'Appeasement' controversy, Hamas hypocrisy, McCain and lobbyists, Huckabee's "joke," surrogate battles Summary of Shift: Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia and tried to get Saudis to increase oil output; they agreed, but oil prices still hit new high today. Osama bin Laden released a new audio tape. Barack Obama shot back at Bush and McCain for their "naïve and irresponsible" foreign policy, leading many pundits to remark that the general election is upon us and Barack is looking relatively good. Hillary spoke out in Obama's defense, though she is being increasingly talked about as being on the sidelines. McCain gave a speech to the NRA today in Louisville, KY. Highlights: 1. On bus, McCain outlines his rules for talking to Hamas 2. McCain's foreign policy cred debated in light of 'appeasement' controversy and Hamas hypocrisy a. "Countdown" does 'Double Talk Express' segment on 'McBush diplomacy' b. James Rubin: McCain's "going to have trouble" with national security because he's taken "two very different positions" c. "Hardball" panel suggests Obama came out on top of McCain in this scuffle d. Was McCain's reaction to 'appeasement' controversy a smart move? 3. Networks cover McCain's lobbyist problems a. Hume discusses McCain's re-vetting of his staff b. "Hardball" panel discusses McCain's today's McLobbyist stories c. MSNBC interviews Adam Green about new MoveOn ad featuring Charlie Black 4. Pfotenhauer defends McCain a. Schuster presses Pfotenhauer on the difference between "talking with" and "dealing with" Hamas b. Pfotenhauer defends McCain against Obama counterattack and on Charlie Black c. Pfotenhauer: Obama trying to redefine himself as a moderate with "hysterical diatribe" 5. MSNBC analyzes McCain's speech to NRA 6. NBC Pentagon correspondent doubts McCain's predictions for capturing Bin Laden 7. Huckabee's "joke" about Obama falls flat 8. Romney confused by Obama's response to McCain 9. McCain reaches out to liberal bloggers 10. Obama responds to McCain a. Obama shakes off McCain and Bush's attacks on his foreign policy b. CNN reports on Obama firing back 11. Local news summarizes Obama-McCain-Bush back-and-forth 12. John Edwards emphasizes McSame Clips: Highlight #1 *McCain Outlines His Rules for Talking to Hamas *(FNC 05/16/08 6:19pm) JOHN MCCAIN: If they abandon their terrorist commitment to the destruction of the state of Israel, to all of the terrorist activities they're engaged in. Then we would have a different relationship. Highlight #2 *"Countdown" Asks Whether McBush's Diplomacy Is Manufactured Pandering or Authentic and Out of Touch* (MSNBC 05/15/08 RACHEL MADDOW: […] In our fourth story tonight, simplistic, jingoistic, fear-mongering presidential wannabe John McCain of today versus that soft-on-terror, naïve appeaser John McCain of 2003 and 2006. […] MADDOW: Who was that guy? He had a sophisticated nuanced view of foreign relations. CHRIS HAYES: I know. This is the question everyone has been asking of where did that guy go? And not just on an issue like this. What he said in 2006 is in some Senses not in the spectrum of debate in this election in 2008. And it's not just on that issue. It's on almost every issue, from opposing the Bush tax cuts to calling Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell agents of intolerance before embracing them. *There's a whole kind of greatest hits album you could put together of moments of Sensibility from John McCain that he's just thrown off the boat as he's rowing as fast as he can go into the arms of the right-wing sector of the Republican party.* MADDOW: Well Chris, which do you think that McCain at greater risk ofhere? The perception he's a flip-flopper, that he's changed his positions back and forth over time? Or is he more at risk of the perception that he's incoherent on a lot of stuff, including foreign policy, that he doesn't appear to have any guiding compass for his stance on America's place in the world and a lot of other policy matters? HAYES: I think it's a tough call. Because flip-flopper is this kind of operating concept that we have in American presidential politics, I would say it's probably going to be that in many cases. But in some Senses, right, the whole thing that he's built his reputation on issues is this sort of integrity. *And if you look at his positions and compare them now to what they were in the past, you have two options: Either he believes now what he says he believes—and those beliefs are in direct contradiction to vast majorities of the American electorate. Or, he's just esSentially pandering, and he's shamelessly adopting views he doesn't hold, which cuts against the rationale of the sort of maverick John McCain who has such integrity he's willing to champion unpopular views.* MADDOW: My Sense is that there was a time when the sort of unilateral, go-it-alone, with-us-or-against-us, Bush v. World stance was actually politically advantageous to Republicans for a while. I don't think that's true anymore, particularly after the GOP got their clock cleaned in '06. […] Is McCain, do you think, emulating a Bush image that's time has passed? Or could this sort of stance on this appeasement issue—this don't talk to anybody issue—is this still something that could this have political potency for the GOP this year? HAYES: You know, I think there's vestigial potency and I would never underestimate the power of fear in any kind of political campaign. But what we're seeing in the last few days, which is really remarkable, are the diminished returns of that. In fact, *we're seeing McCain play defense on foreign policy.* *He was so panicked about the '100 years' comment that he had to rush out and actually reduce that by 95% and say oh we're going to get out in 5 years. I mean, if we give him a little more time, maybe he'll be down to 3 months.* The point is we haven't seen this in the last 8 years. We haven't seen Republicans running away from this sort of cowboy image because they've found it so politically beneficial to don that mantel. And I think we're beginning to see a sea change in the electorate right now. *Rubin Says McCain's "Going to Have Trouble" with National Security Because He's Taken "Two Very Different Positions"* (MSNBC 05/16/08 1:19pm) UBIN: The reality is that foreign policy and national security is going to be a big, big portion of this general election for the very simple reason that the country has a big decision to make. Whether we continue to do what we've been doing for 6 years in Iraq and keep our troops there for an indefinite period or whether we begin to withdraw […] . John McCain has many views on national security as we've learned. And I think we're going to discover that it's going to be extremely hard for him to sustain his current posture, which is some sort of tough guy, when in the past, he's said very different things. […] ANDREA MITCHELL: […] You wrote today in your op-ed that in fact John McCain suggested dealing with Hamas after the Palestinian elections. […] MITCHELL: The McCain camp has responded […] by issuing a series of statements showing that McCain has made it clear that he would not unconditionally negotiate with enemies or so-called radicals or terrorists like Hamas. And apparently that he's making a distinction between Hamas, the terror group, and Hamas, the elected government of the Palestinians. Your reaction to that? RUBIN: Well, they have to say something, don't' they? John McCain was putting forward, two years ago, […] the realist view in the Republican Party […] that we have to do business with Hamas. He told the NPR […] that a year ago. That's one view. There's a very different view, and that is the view of President Bush and the new version of john McCain, which is that we shouldn't negotiate, talk to or deal with Hamas, iran, syria, any of these countries. And i think John McCain is going to have trouble with this because he's been part of both camps. […] He's taken two very different positions. They can find all the quotes they want, but it's clear that at that time in Europe, when it was perhaps thought of as cool to talk about Hamas in this forward-leaning way, […] a lot of them did talk in that way. […] So that fashionable kind of phrase that he was using in Davos reflected a position in the Republican Party that, as I said, others have held, and it's not going to be easy for him to take these cheap shots at Barack Obama when he's held both positions. […] *"Hardball" Panel Suggests Obama Came Out On Top of McCain This Week* (MSNBC 05/16/08 5:58pm) CHRIS CILLIZZA: […] It seems like it was a month ago, but McCain, out in Washington and Oregon talking about global warming and climate change. You know, he is systematically stepping away from the President and criticizing the President on a number of issues. CHRIS MATTHEWS: […] Is this the dime's worth of difference we're looking at? […] Is that the door-opener for him: you know, I can answer questions; Bush can't? MICHELLE BERNARD: […] I think his speech in Oregon this week doesn't help him. He's trying to reach out to independents, he's trying to reach out to Reagan Democrats. But I don't think this was a great week for him because that climate change speech in Oregon completely disaffected his base. […] CHRIS MATTHEWS: […] There's only one area where Bush comes out on top, and that's protecting us from terrorism. Here you have Barack Obama taking him on in his strong suit. CILLIZZA: I just wrote down 2 words here that Barack Obama said: "naïve" and "irresponsible." Those are the words that John McCain is trying to paint Barack Obama with on foreign policy. I think you are seeing Barack Obama say […] you want to fight on foreign policy? Let's fight on foreign policy! *"Hardball" Panel Asks Whether McCain's Reaction to 'Appeasement' Controversy Was a Smart Move *(MSNBC 05/16/08 6:34pm) RICHARD WOLFFE: […] Obama's going after the whole straight-talk notion. So look this is a problem for McCain in the Sense that whether or not these comments are clear, you have to contextualize it. You have to explain it. It doesn't sound like straight talk. And on top of that, you have McCain not taking the opportunity to break with Bush[…] So he missed an opportunity and he handed this gift over to Obama. I don't think it was a good play for McCain. DAVID GREGORY: […] The real opportunity here and the challenge for both candidates to lay out a vision for diplomacy in the post-Bush era in the Middle East. And it's going to be a more complicated game. And we see that in the way the Bush administration has handled their diplomacy. They're talking to Iran, as it applies to IRaq. They're talking with the North Koreans […] Petraeus has talked to Sunni terrorists […] PAT BUCHANAN: It is indeed. And Bush himself had a great success talking to Libya, a character that blew up Pan Am 103 and killed all those schoolkids […] Substantively I agree with Obama that we gotta talk to people like Hamas, maybe back-channel. And I agree with him that there's hypocrisy here. But politically I'm telling you, when you tie Barack to Hamas on a very simple headline level, it is a real problem for […] Obama […] and Republicans are going to work this. […] EUGENE ROBINSON: *John McCain is spending a lot of time arguing with himself, arguing with his former self at least on the Hamas issue. Now he says we can wrap up this little war issue in 5 years as opposed to 100 years. He has some explaining to do.* BUCHANAN: He is moving on Iraq. He's moving to 4 years. You're right. He's getting off a wicket. 100 years and endless war—he's gotta get off that. And he's made a smart move. Highlight #3 *McCain Re-vets Staff* (MSNBC 05/16/08 6:24pm) BRITT HUME: Well the McCain campaign is also looking into the relationships between its staffers and lobbyists. Campaign manager Rick Davis e-mailed a memo out today that includes a questionare about previous professional activities. The move comes after the departure of two aides who had lobbied for the Burmese junta back in 2003 and a third who also works with a political advocacy group opposing Barack Obama. *MSNBC Panel Discusses Today's McLobbyist Stories* (MSNBC 05/16/08 6:36pm) DAVID GREGORY: The McCain camp will re-vet its entire staff to look for conflicts of interest or connections to lobbyists. Politico's Ben Smith reports this: […] The campaign is requiring all staff to disclose all connections to lobbyists according to the Atlantic.com's Marc Ambinder […] What this underscores to me is the duality of the McCain campaign. He is part lone-wolf, part maverick and part conventional Republican politician. He's trying to reconcile those 2 things as we proceeds here. SUSAN MOLINARI: […] Please find me anybody who runs for office, particularly presidential, who doesn't have lobbyists who are supporting them! GREGORY: […] That's true, but McCain has carved out a unique niche as a political identity that is not the conventional typical politician. I don't think that's how he would answer that question, saying Name me a politician who doesn't work with lobbyists! […] MOLINARI: And you know what the difference for John McCain is? And I'm a lobbyist. He doesn't change his position for lobbyists. Lobbyists know that they can go talk to him once in a while but he has never done what lobbyists or what conventional wisdom wants him to do. John McCain follows one person, and that's John McCain. So I don't really think he's got anything, if you look at his record, to prove based on where he takes his issues and who influences John McCain. The people influence John McCain in his years in the Senate have shown that. […] RICHARD WOLFFE: Remember the lesson of South Carolina in 2000. […] What was really successful for the Bushies in 2000 in SC was to portray McCain as a Washington insider, the Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee with all these ties to big business and lobbyists. And it worked! *MSNBC Questions Adam Green on MoveOn Charlie Black Ad *(MSNBC 05/16/08 4:36pm) CONTESSA BREWER: John McCain is taking incoming fire on two fronts today from Barack Obama and also from MoveOn.org. Listen to this new ad they just released on the internet. [ad plays] BREWER: . . .do you think that's fair? In essence you're basically linking McCain with murderers? ADAM GREEN: Well, what we're saying is this: We're making clear that as John McCain holds himself out to the public as someone who will be a reformer, who will change the ways of Washington that his campaign is actually run by, literally, over a hundred lobbyists. And chief among them is this guy, Charlie Black, who is not just his top political advisor but who has lobbied for foreign dictator after foreign dictator. BREWER: . . . that's a fear inducing ad. It's full of emotion in this case Adam. Do you think MoveOn might have pushed the envelope just a little bit? GREEN: No, no, I think pushing the envelope is representing dictators that killed thousands of their own people . . . our point is this, there are some things that are fair game and there are some things that are untouchable. And people who have been the PR arm and the influence peddling arm of foreign dictators in Washington DC have no role at the top of John McCain's campaign. And our point to him is this: He can be a straight talker or a double talker. And if he wants to be a straight talker, he needs to say to Charlie Black, "You're fired." BREWER: The GOP spokesman calls the ad an outrageous personal smear and goes on to say, "Barack Obama's failure is evidence of his weak leadership and undermines everything his campaign is supposed to be about." . . . do you worry that any of this could form a backlash against Barack Obama? GREEN: . . . if you're going to poll people about do you support lobbyists who support foreign dictators or not, I imagine it would be nearly a hundred to zero. There won't be a backlash . . . Highlight #4 *Schuster Presses Pfotenhauer on the Difference Between "Talking With" and "Dealing With" Hamas* (MSNBC 05/16/08 3:34pm) […] DAVID SCHUSTER: Nancy, has the United States been made more safe or less safe by Iraq? NANCY PFOTENHAUER: Well, I think it's undeniable at least recently, since we adopted the surge approach that we have seen real progress that's been made. And I think any fair coverage of the debate needs to at least acknowledge the fact that John McCain was the primary instigator getting us to change our policy there. More importantly, when you look back at what Senator Obama had to say today, I think it is pretty clear that he has – it's basically all rhetoric. He has a lot of air and not a lot behind it. SCHUSTER: Nancy, let's talk about rhetoric. Does John McCain stand by—it's a simple yes or no—does John McCain stand by the President's remarks yesterday when the President said that talking to our enemies in the Middle East is the same as appeasing Hitler? PFOTENHAUER: Senator McCain responded directly himself and said he took the President at his words, that those comments were not directed toward Senator Obama. I have to take issue a little bit, David, with -- I have been watching this segment or listening to this segment for the last 10 or 15 minutes, and I've heard you reference three times something that's completely untrue and misleading to your viewers. And that's the so-called reference to Senator McCain saying that he would speak to Hamas. And that is absolutely not the case. SCHUSTER: […] Nancy, does the McCain campaign believe that talking to our enemies is the same as appeasing them? PFOTENHAUER: We have never used the term 'appeasement,' and you know that. SCHUSTER: But the president did. An argument that historians said was intellectually dishonest when the president said that talking to our enemies is the same what Chamberlain did with Nazi Germany by giving them Czechoslovakia. You know that's not accurate! PFOTENHAUER: B-b-b-b-but SCHUSTER: Sen McCain knows that's not accurate! PFOTENHAUER: Sen McCain is responsible for what he says, no responsible for what Pres Bush says. And we have specifically not used the term 'appeasement.' However, it is absolutely legitimate to discuss the fact that Barack Obama has said unconditionally that he is willing to sit down and talk to leaders of rogue nations without setting the conditions that would be, you know, tantamount to showing that real progress could be made. Whereas, Senator McCain has said, point blank, that there are certain conditions that would have to be in place. And Senator Obama's judgment is, I think, at issue here. It's legitimate. It's what should be debated between now and November. Because I think he has shown himself to be lacking in good judgment in foreign policy. SCHUSTER: Nancy, why shouldn't we take it as a flip-flop when Senator McCain was asked two years ago by jamie rubin about Hamas being in charge of the palestinian government and Senator McCain implicitly saying, yes, at some point, we are going to have to have some dialogue with them. *How is that not a flip-flop from what he is saying now?* PFOTENHAUER: David, what he said is that we would have to deal with Hamas. And that's what I take serious issue with the treatment in this segment just today where *you keep saying, he's said he would talk with them. He did not. He said he would deal with*— SCHUSTER*: What's the difference between dealing and talking with them?* PFOTENHAUER: *Ok David, dealing can be anything from bombing to a bed of roses. *And the way we deal with Hamas right now is we isolate them diplomatically. We try to slow down and stop their financial and military – SCHUSTER: So John McCain is saying we should go ahead and bomb the Palestinian government when he said we'll have to deal with them in the context of a question of them being in charge of the Palestinian territories? PFOTENHAUER: David, David, David, this is ridiculous way to have this conversation. There is no -- what I'm saying is that dealing with is very different from saying you are going to sit down and talk to them. We are dealing with them right now through diplomatic isolation, through trying to stop efforts or slow down the efforts that are primarily driven by Iran to provide Hamas this financial and military support. And we are energetically supporting Israel's right to defend themselves. That is one way you could deal with Hamas. It is in fact the way we are dealing with them right now. And it doesn't involve sitting down with terrorist organizations or state sponsors of terrorists. SCHUSTER: Nancy Pfotenhauer, even though we disagree, you argue very well. We appreciate you coming on. PFOTENHAUER: Thank you, David. [Note: For anyone who's counting, Schuster says "Nancy" 5 times. Pfotenhauer says "David" 7 times.] Nancy Pfotenhauer Defends McCain after Obama Counterattack on Iran and on Charlie Black GREGG JARRETT: . . .you know, it may be a fair point by Barack Obama, and he is making it repeatedly, that Kennedy and Nixon and Reagan all met with the leaders of the evil empire and surely those presidents were guilty of appeasement. How is meeting Ahmadinejad any different? PFOTENHAUER: meeting with the President of Iran when he is advocating openly the eradication of Israel is a very, very different proposition. I think one of my favorite statements that was made during a Republican Presidential debate . . . by Mayor Guiliani and he said, yeah, Reagan talked to Gorbachev and he did it when we had 21,000 missiles pointed at him. Now, I mean, we have to really focus here on how dangerous and, I think, almost bizarre this judgment call is from Obama . . . JARRETT: Why is it bizarre? PFOTENHAUER: It's bizarre because he is talking about sitting down with terrorists or state sponsors of terrorism without any signal that those talks are going to be productive. JARRETT: Is there any difference between an evil empire that's got thousands of nukes aimed at us . . . and a guy who's trying to develop nukes . . .? PFOTENHAUER: . . . the signaling of the President of the United States sitting down with the President of Iran who is a radical who's obviously trying to achieve goals that are directly at odds with the United States. The signaling to the people of Iran would be horrible. [. . .] JARRETT: Look, I want to move on because John McCain has repeatedly tried to portray Barack Obama as the friend of Hamas and you know, McCain is vowing, you know, I'll be Hamas's worst enemy. That's not what he said two years ago in an interview . . . "They're the government . . . sooner or later we're going to have to deal with them one way or another." Obama says he will not meet with Hamas. Is John McCain guilty of hypocrisy Nancy? PFOTENHAUER: Not at all. In fact, one of the things that just drives me crazy is . . . that statement keeps being repeated and the implication is that it's the same as what Sen. Obama has stated. And that couldn't be further from the truth. And Sen. McCain has been constant in his . . . articulation of how he would approach terrorists and . . . state sponsors of terrorism from the day that he issued the press release after that election . . . he said we have to deal with. To deal with Hamas. . . JARRETT: . . . Charlie Black is of course a chief political advisor, a long time lobbyists, there's this MoveOn.org ad that basically portrays Charlie Black as working with and for some of the world's worst dictators, mass-murderers, terrorists and tyrants. Does this underscore a vulnerability for John McCain? His very close ties to controversial and perhaps comprised lobbyist. PFOTENHAUER: You know what, we at least have a policy at the McCain campaign about disclosing who you've worked for and what interests you've represented. I would like to see a similar scrutiny of the Obama campaign which has been kind of under this veil if you will— JARRETT: They say they don't have any lobbyists. PFOTENHAUER: Oh, that. Do you believe that Gregg? *Pfotenhauer: Obama Trying to Redefine Himself as a Moderate with "Hysterical Diatribe" *(FNC 05/16/08 12:41pm) JANE SKINNER: . . . the headline out of that certainly was this, "I'm going to make it perfectly clear," Barack Obama said, "if George Bush and John McCain want to debate about protecting the United States of America, anytime, anyplace. I will win because they have a lot to answer for." STEVE MURPHY: . . . John McCain has said we've got to do in Pakistan what Musharrif tells us to do. When a year ago Barack Obama said that he's going to go get the terrorists in Pakistan, John McCain said no way we can't do that . . . SKINNER: . . . the Democrats say we've got John McCain right where we want him, we've got him aligned with George Bush just like this. NANCY PFOTENHAUER: Well, I think it's pretty clear, anybody who's actually been a student of foreign policy over the last eight years knows where John McCain agrees and disagrees with President Bush . . . but let me just back up a little bit on this. I think what we heard from Barack Obama today was a vaguely hysterical diatribe that shows how desperate he is to move and try and move himself from the hard-left position he's held during the primary position. And he's trying to reposition himself more moderately during the general election season. He has said frequently . . . that he is willing to meet unconditionally with the leaders of rogue nations. That, in my opinion, shows a very dangerous judgement and deserves to be thoroughly debated in there's nothing we'd be more happy to do. [. . .] SKINNER: . . . how does this work as a Democratic approach to this? One of the first things that Barack Obama said out of the gate there today was, "This is the kind of attack . . . that has divided our country . . ." He is going to use that . . . saying this is fearmongering . . . are you guys vulnerable to that kind of attack? PFOTENHAUER: Barack Obama defines anything as fearmongering or divisive if it questions his judgment. And let me tell you right now, that is probably the most significant that needs to be debated as Americans move forward to cast their votes in the fall. Here you have an individual who, when he was a member of the . . . Illinois legislature voted present more than a hundred times . . . that is the profile of someone who ducks critical issues. That is not the profile of someone who goes after our problems with a single minded determination to solve them. Which, by the way is the record of John McCain. You cannot find anybody in our nations capitol . . . who would ever describe John McCain as someone other than the type of person who goes after both hands. Now I don't see a lot of . . . there there with Barack Obama . . . and that's why we'd love to go face to face . . . and debate these issues because we've got a ton of substance and Sen. McCain has a record of having improved the lives of Americans. Highlight #5 *MSNBC Airs Post Speech Analysis *(MSNBC 05/16/08 4:52pm) CONTESSA BREWER: . . . McCain said earlier today that he would have the troops home by 2013 but you heard him there promising that he would not risk America's security by brining home our men and women before he thinks that the area there is secure and stable . . . we heard McCain there making a very strong argument . . . about Iraq. Karl Rove says the way that Republicans have got to operate to win this election . . . is to convince the American people that staying the course in Iraq is the right move. Haven't they been trying to do that? JOE WALKIN: John McCain has been winning points for some months now because of the fact that he's all about straight talk. Let's face it, a year ago John McCain wasn't given any chance by any of the political pundits . . . of being the Republican nominee . . . and the reason why he won all those newspaper endorsements and he's won the strong support of Americans is that . . . he just tells it like it is. He hates war, Contessa, he's not a warmonger. . . BREWER: But the straight talk Joe, then includes these remarks from the McCain campaign . . .:"Barack Obama's hysterical diatribe in response to the speech in which his name wasn't even mentioned . . .[was] the same tired partisan rants." David, what do you make of all of this? DAVID GOODFRIEND: Well I think that what we see in John McCain is somebody who is not just embracing George Bush but running to and kissing George Bush . . . the fact of the matter is that if you go over every single public opinion poll in the United States today and you ask people, "Do you think that the Iraq War has made the world safer?" They'll say no. "Do you think it has made the United States safer?" They'll say no. . . WALKIN: . . . whoever the president is, Democrat or Republican, they're going to have to deal with the issue of our men and women in Iraq . . . GOODFRIEND: . . . what we're arguing about is whether the president of the United States is going to do everything in his or her power to end the war in a timely fashion. . . Highlight #6 *NBC Senior Pentagon Correspondent Doubts McCain's Predictions for Capturing Bin Laden *(NBC-WRC-DC 05/16/08 6:14pm) JIM VANCE: […] You know the presumptive Republican […] presidential nominee said that he'd go to the ends of the earth […] in order to capture Osama bin Laden. Any reason that you've seen or know of to think that Mr. McCain might be able to do that where President Bush has not been able to do so? JIM MIKLASZEWSKI: Well and John McCain so much as predicted that Al-Qaeda would be defeated totally and that Osama Bin Laden would either by killed or captured by the year 2013. *But I can tell you that U.S. military and intelligence officials won't touch that with a 10-foot pole. They say they're not willing to make those kinds of predictions.* Particularly because, even though AQ, as an organization, has been seriously degraded to the point where it's believed they cannot carry out the kinds of attacks, the scope of attacks, as they did on 9/11; they still have the uncanny ability to regenerate themselves, albeit in smaller cells, and still have the capability to carry out terrorist attacks, pretty much at will in many cases. And McCain also said that AQ no longer has a safe haven, but clearly Bin Laden, Zawari, his #2, and many AQ elements do in fact have a safe haven well dug-in to the areas of western Pakistan along the Afghanistan border. Highlight #7 *Huckajoke Falls Flat *(MSNBC 05/16/08 8:20pm) RACHAEL MADDOW: Senator McCain's speech today was possibly not the most shocking thing said at the NRA convention in Louisville. That honor goes to former Republican candidate Mike Huckabee who responded to a sharp noise in the hall . . . by joking that perhaps something bad happened to Sen. Obama. [plays clip] MADDOW: Gov. Huckabee realizing exactly how inappropriate his joke was. Issuing a statement just moments ago saying, quote, "I had made an offhand remark that was in no way intended to offend or disparage Sen. Obama. I apologize that my comments were offensive. That was never my intention." *MSNBC Questions Adam Green on MoveOn Charlie Black Ad *(MSNBC 05/16/08 4:36pm) CONTESSA BREWER: John McCain is taking incoming fire on two fronts today from Barack Obama and also from MoveOn.org. Listen to this new ad they just released on the internet. [ad plays] BREWER: . . .do you think that's fair? In essence you're basically linking McCain with murderers? ADAM GREEN: Well, what we're saying is this: We're making clear that as John McCain holds himself out to the public as someone who will be a reformer, who will change the ways of Washington that his campaign is actually run by, literally, over a hundred lobbyists. And chief among them is this guy, Charlie Black, who is not just his top political advisor but who has lobbied for foreign dictator after foreign dictator. BREWER: . . . that's a fear inducing ad. It's full of emotion in this case Adam. Do you think MoveOn might have pushed the envelope just a little bit? GREEN: No, no, I think pushing the envelope is representing dictators that killed thousands of their own people . . . our point is this, there are some things that are fair game and there are some things that are untouchable. And people who have been the PR arm and the influence peddling arm of foreign dictators in Washington DC have no role at the top of John McCain's campaign. And our point to him is this: He can be a straight talker or a double talker. And if he wants to be a straight talker, he needs to say to Charlie Black, "You're fired." BREWER: The GOP spokesman calls the ad an outrageous personal smear and goes on to say, "Barack Obama's failure is evidence of his weak leadership and undermines everything his campaign is supposed to be about." . . . do you worry that any of this could form a backlash against Barack Obama? GREEN: . . . if you're going to poll people about do you support lobbyists who support foreign dictators or not, I imagine it would be nearly a hundred to zero. There won't be a backlash . . . Highlight #8 *Romney Confused by Obama's Response to McCain *(CNN 05/16/08 4:27pm) MITT ROMNEY: With regards to the President's comment, the President said that we should not negotiate with terrorist that is nothing unusual. I was frankly surprised to have Barack Obama say that that was leveled at him. I guess I am kind of speechless at him saying that that was something that was directed towards him. The president is saying what presidents have said time and time again… With regards to Senator McCain, look you have a very big difference between Barack Obama and John McCain with regards on how you are going to deal with the state sponsors of terror. John McCain like President Bush and others recognize that we are going to talk these other nations but we are not going to have the dignity of the office of the President of the United States bestowed upon Ahmadinejad or Asad so they can have propaganda bananza. That is just not going to happen. WOLF BLITZER: The reason the Presidents comments at the Knesset were seeing as being directed at Senator Obama and other democrats is because White House officials traveling with the President told that to reporters after they spotted that paragraph in the speech so it wasn't as if Governor this was something that just the Barack Obama campaign came up with the news media traveling with the president they were specifically making that connection ROMNEY: Well I wasn't with the white house press corps there so I can't I can't comment on that. I can tell you that the comment by the president that we should not have direct discussions, we should not have negotiations rather with terrorist that is something that has been said time and time again and I think it is entirely spot on. BLITZER: There was a video tape that came out today that by Jamie Rubin a Clinton adviser he used to work for Sky television in London he interviewed John McCain a few years ago right after, couple of years ago after Hamas won the Palestinian elections… McCain said that soon or later we are going to have to deal with them. It seemed, at least the excerpt that was released today it seemed to suggest that John McCain himself was ready to deal with quote terrorists. ROMNEY: Actually when I was growing up my dad said to me Mitt I am going to have to deal with you one way or the other that did not mean he was planning on sitting down with me in an official state dinner and having a nice chat it meant he was planning on some kind of punishment … It is pretty clear what the intent was of his comment which is that he feels that we just can't stand by and watch Hamas Hezbollah to continue to fight against the well being of our own citizens as well as the well being of our allies around the world. Highlight #9 *McCain Reaches Out to Liberal Bloggers *(FNC 05/16/08 6:34pm) BRITT HUME: Senator McCain is taking his campaign message ot liberal and non-political bloggers. The Washington Times reports McCain invited non-conservative bloggers to join Thursday's regular conference call. McCain fielded questions from the environmental blog Grist.org and the women's sites Punditmom and Her.com. The New York Times reports the effort has started what it calls a war among liberal bloggers on how to react to McCain's overture. The McCain campaign says the effort is a logical extension of his ongoing attempts to reach beyond the conservative Republican base. It says McCain will even reach out to sports bloggers as a way to humanize the candidate and break the mold of what it calls, "a carbon copy politician running for office delivering talking points." But some observers caution that McCain will have to pick and choose which bloggers to invite to the conference calls because some sites will not treat him fairly. Highlight #10 *Barack Obama Shakes Off McCain and Bush's Attacks on his Foreign Policy *(FNC 05/16/08 2:40pm) BARACK OBAMA: The notion that you would go before the Israeli Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence and use term like appeasement and suggest somehow that Democrats, people like myself, who believe that should have a tough diplomacy to accompany our military power in dealing with problems in the region, is wrong. And for Senator McCain to then compound it by somehow suggesting that I couldn't protect the safety of the United States when it is George Bush' s policies, supported by John McCain, that have empowered Iran. And that is undisputed. There is not an observer of Middle East politics that would not say that the biggest contributor to Iran's expanding power in the Middle East is George Bush's policies and our invasion of Iraq. And for them to somehow suggest that they the ones who have been keeping Iran at bay, is ridiculous. One last point. Senator McCain has really enjoyed over the last several weeks enjoyed repeating this comment about how Hamas supports Obama, implying or suggesting that I would talk to Hamas, despite the fact that I have been crystal clear, time and time again, that until they renounced violence, recognized Israel abided by agreements, we should not negotiate with them. And then we find out that on the same day that he made some of those statements, that in a previous interview, he suggested well maybe we might have to deal with Hamas. So not only was he not truthful about my policies, but it turns out that he is on record suggesting a much more friendly policy towards Hamas than I have. And those are the kind of distortions that people are tired of and they certainly contradict the kind of civility that John McCain suggested in the morning that he wanted to pursue. *CNN Reports on Obama Firing Back *(CNN 05/16/08 4:08pm) WOLF BLITZER: Obama says that McCain is guilty of something McCain accuses Obama of doing. It involves the United States dealing with a group it considers to be a terrorist organization DANA BASH: This was supposed to be his message of the day, John McCain the outdoorsman. Then came a democratic accusation of hypocrisy on John McCain position on Hamas Jamie Rubin a Hillary Clinton supporter released this interview he conducted with McCain two years ago… Barack Obama seized on that blasting McCain for attacking him for wanting to sit down with the leader of Iran. [Clip of Obama's response] BASH: Riding on his bus, McCain insisted his position on Hamas has always been the same no negotiation till they renounce wanting to destroy Israel. Highlight #11 *Local News Summarizes Obama-McCain-Bush Back-and-Forth* (NBC-WRC-DC 05/16/08 5:59pm) STEVE HANDELSMAN: . . .Democrats say they learned their lesson from the last time, 2004, John Kerry vs. the Swift Boaters, to never turn the other cheek. To hit back hard and fast. And today, the apparent 2008 Democratic nominee did. [. . .] HANDELSMAN: Called naïve on foreign policy by John McCain yesterday Barack Obama said today in effect, bring it on. [. . .] HANDELSMAN: Obama says Bush and McCain have to answer. For the Iraq war that McCain now says he would win by 2013. Have to answer for not getting Osama bin Laden. Obama says Bush let Hamas take over Gaza and let Iran work on nukes and threaten Israel. BARACK OBAMA: Those are the failed policies that John McCain wants to double down on because he still hasn't spelled out one substantial way in which eh'd be different than George Bush. HANDELSMAN: The President said in Israel yesterday that sitting down with Iranian President Ahmedinajad would be like appeasing the Nazis. Obama today called that fearmongering. Highlight #12 *John Edwards Emphasizes McSame *(CNN 05/16/08 6:06pm) JOHN EDWARDS: Luckily, we are now in a very different place. We know what the American people think of George Bush, we know what they think of this mess of a war in Iraq and his foreign policy, Wolf, has been a complete and utter disaster. Moving to the more important thing fo this election, Bush is not running in this election, is John McCain embraces it. I mean, the McCain foreign policy is virtually identical to the Bush foreign policy. And, if you think about those two things in combination and compare it to what's happened over the last eight years, anybody in America paying attention knows we need a change. -- Sara DuBois Deputy Director, Tracking/Media Monitoring Progressive Media USA [email protected] 202-609-7681 (office) 410-967-7306 (cell) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "big campaign" group. To post to this group, send to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] E-mail [email protected] with questions or concerns This is a list of individuals. It is not affiliated with any group or organization. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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