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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of attry 05/14/2020
DOB , was interviewed at One Saint Andrews
Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was attorney
along with AUSA
. After being advised of the identities of the
above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided
the following information:
In 1999,
was sent to do a model job at a IIIIIIIIIIIIllat
The next day or a couple days later, received a call
where the man on the other line told her JEFFREY EPSTEIN saw a picture of
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her and wanted to meet her. This man told her that EPSTEIN could help
with her modeling and advance her career. This man was trying to
convince to meet EPSTEIN. could not recall this man's name
but did not recognize his name as someone involved in the modeling industry;
this man worked with EPSTEIN.
A couple days later, met EPSTEIN. did not recall how the
meeting was arranged but thought she may have called EPSTEIN's assistant.
went to EPSTEIN's home on 71st Street; she thought she went in the
afternoon. Someone, perhaps the maid or butler, answered the door and led
her upstairs to the living room. Most of the times saw EPSTEIN, she
waited in the living room. EPSTEIN came in the room and started talking.
described the room as very ornate with a couch, tables, and sometimes
there was a massage table set up. EPSTEIN made small talk, asking about her
background. told him how she grew up. They talked about modeling
and EPSTEIN told her he was friends with LES WEXNER. EPSTEIN told her he
could get her into the Victoria's Secret catalogue. did not know if
she had her portfolio on her first visit with EPSTEIN or if it was on
subsequent visits. When told EPSTEIN about her past, he told her it
was ok because he was a taxi driver in the past. did not know if he
said that to make her more comfortable
At some point, EPSTEIN left the room and the massage table was in
the room. massaged EPSTEIN; he told her how he wanted it.
remembered EPSTEIN grabbing her. thought this happened the first
meeting but was not sure; did recall that it happened within the
first two meetings. did not remember EPSTEIN saying how he knew
about her.
would get a call from an assistant or secretary to go to massage
him. These assistants worked at the Madison location. had been to
the Madison location. The women at the Madison location looked
professional. thought the name or sounded
familiar. EPSTEIN wanted her to get people; he had mentioned he had other
properties. felt that it was only ten percent of the time when she
spoke with EPSTEIN on the phone to schedule an appointment. EPSTEIN told
, "I want to see your portfolio...to help you get into Victoria's
Secret.". friend remembered her calling her to tell her about
EPSTEIN trying to get her into Victoria's Secret. felt that it was
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kind of unexpected for her to be going to EPSTEIN's home for massages.
Pretty early on, met GHISLAINE MAXWELL. went approximately
two to three times a week to massage EPSTEIN. This continued until
approximately 2001. felt it began to get worse and there was an
incident with MAXWELL that led to wanting to leave.
The third or fourth time went to EPSTEIN's home, she met MAXWELL.
did not like MAXWELL. MAXWELL was very intimidating; she was scary
to had the feeling that MAXWELL ran the place. was
confused about MAXWELL and EPSTEIN's relationship; she did not know if they
were together or not. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN talked about their travels and
they bantered. MAXWELL seemed to be working at EPSTEIN's home.
often saw MAXWELL on the first two levels of EPSTEIN's house; MAXWELL would
be near the front of the house and walk around. MAXWELL was there twenty to
thirty percent of the time when was there. At this point, MAXWELL
never flirted with - that's why the incident with MAXWELL stuck out
so much to
In approximately 2001, recalled an incident that happened with
MAXWELL. got a call to go to EPSTEIN's home. When arrived,
MAXWELL answered the door; MAXWELL was very cold and looked mad. MAXWELL
led to EPSTEIN's bedroom. thought she had maybe only been in
the bedroom once before this. There were sex toys on the bed. MAXWELL told
her to sit on the left side of the bed. MAXWELL walked back and forth
quickly, laying out sex toys. did not know what was going on.
MAXWELL laid a strap on dildo on the bed. Then, EPSTEIN entered the room
and it progressed from there. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were talking about what
to do. felt that her brain kind of froze. MAXWELL instructed
to take off her clothes. MAXWELL put the strap on dildo on and entered
vagina from behind. was on the bed and MAXWELL was behind
her. felt that it happened really fast. EPSTEIN may have said some
things, but MAXWELL just did things during this incident. did not
remember MAXWELL saying much afterwards. MAXWELL seemed to snap back to
normal a little bit afterwards. did not know if MAXWELL took a
picture. thought EPSTEIN told MAXWELL some instruction but it seemed
that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL just knew what to do. There was no talk about it
afterwards. The incident was shocking to because MAXWELL had never
done this. MAXWELL was especially intimidating during and after this
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incident.
EPSTEIN would be on the phone a lot. overheard conversations
between EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, not necessarily when EPSTEIN was on the phone.
overheard them talking about the Royal Family and events. The
massages happened in either the living room or the massage room. MAXWELL
was present in the bedroom; thought she was only in the bedroom one
time. The massages were one on one; there were no other people involved.
Generally, EPSTEIN grabbed hard, bruising and squeezing her, while he
wanted her to grab him. EPSTEIN gave $200 to $300 per massage.
EPSTEIN paid in hundred dollar bills from a drawer on the table. Someone
else may have given money but she did not recall a specific memory of
that.
lived in the for about a year. It
was early on that EPSTEIN wanted her to move in there. thought that
at one point EPSTEIN told her he owned the apartment building.
thought the apartment was bugged; she recalled telling her friend that.
described the apartment as being very clean and it seemed like a
corporate apartment. saw a vibrator under the bed and thought that
was weird.
felt scared of EPSTEIN; he was very powerful. EPSTEIN kept
pushing to go to the island; felt it was approximately eight
times that he pushed her to go.
felt that her friend may remember some things because EPSTEIN told
her and her friend to eat at a place nearby.
The massages continued and EPSTEIN made career promises. flew on
EPSTEIN's plane to West Palm Beach; thought this was around but
was unsure. could not remember if she flew more than once; she may
have flown twice with EPSTEIN. vaguely remembered the flight to West
Palm Beach. thought there may have been two other people on board,
including an assistant. thought MAXWELL may have been on this
flight. At the time, was attending
thought a car service, that EPSTEIN used, took her
to the airport in New Jersey; she thought she went to Teterboro. met
EPSTEIN in front of the plane. thought an assistant, maybe
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told her that the car service was going to pick her up at a certain time.
had used this car service before in interactions with EPSTEIN. When
they arrived in Palm Beach, a chef prepared a meal and unpacked.
EPSTEIN was near the pool on the phone really loud. thought that
within an hour of being there, the massage started.
About a quarter of the time, MAXWELL called for massage
appointments. MAXWELL also called about the coordination of travel and
passport information. Sometimes, one of EPSTEIN"s assistants would book
commercial flights to Texas; this was travel unrelated to EPSTEIN.
could not specifically remember MAXWELL calling her to organize her
travel.
did not know if she thought at the time that MAXWELL knew the
massages were sexual. Sometimes, MAXWELL was present when arrived to
massage EPSTEIN. Looking back, thought MAXWELL did know that the
massages were sexual. Early on, MAXWELL showed the massage oil and
told her how EPSTEIN liked deep massages. could not recall MAXWELL
saying anything sexual at that point.
thought she was the only one that this was happening to as she was
only at his house a couple hours at the most at a time. recalled a
time where she went to EPSTEIN's home and the person that answered the door
told her to wait. sat for approximately a half hour near the front
door when MAXWELL, EPSTEIN, an a walked in.
was shocked; she had never seen another girl there. ran out.
friend remembered her crying on the phone to her.
In approximately the spring of 2001, left the
recalled this was prior to 9/11.
and received a letter requesting information to
include cell phone numbers, addresses, and all contact information. The
letter was typed and had "From the offices of Jeffrey Epstein" on it.
had no further contact with EPSTEIN after this. had met her
ex-husband around this time and he had helped her move out of the
apartment.
recalled there was a conversation with EPSTEIN about her leaving.
felt that EPSTEIN wanted her out; she thought he was getting tired of
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her. There were a couple factors that led to leaving; had met
someone and the incident with MAXWELL led to her leaving. remembered
a phone call where she was told she had to move out; there was some kind of
argument. felt that it was sudden and fast.
EPSTEIN talked about the Royal Family and PRINCE ANDREW. talked
about a time where she was at EPSTEIN's home and heard EPSTEIN get a phone
call that PRINCE ANDREW was coming over. PRINCE ANDREW came over with his
security detail and he went to a bedroom. EPSTEIN led to the massage
room.
EPSTEIN told to visit with a lawyer, ALAN DERSHOWITZ. did
not need one so she was confused as to why EPSTEIN told her to go to one.
did not think she signed anything. told DERSHOWITZ her
background. DERSHOWITZ told EPSTEIN that she was on Medicaid.
recalled a conversation with EPSTEIN afterwards where EPSTEIN confronted
her, saying, "Oh you're on welfare". was surprised by this. This
was in the beginning to middle timeframe of being with EPSTEIN.
provided documents including documentation of her stay at the
, along with a copy of her passport, and copies of the
envelope from the letter she received from EPSTEIN's office. All copies of
documents are attached in a 1A.
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