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Article 1.
The Atlantic
Obama to Iran and Israel: 'As President of the
United States, I Don't Bluf
Jeffrey Goldberg
Article 2.
The Washington Post
Mideast peace, with something short of a deal
Robert Malley and Aaron David Miller
Article 3.
The daily Beast
Shimon Peres's Influence Wanes as Israel Grows
More Bellicose Toward Iran
Dan Ephron
Article 4.
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Fearful of a nuclear Iran? The real WMD nightmare
is Syria
Charles P. Blair
Article 5.
The Daily Star
Hamas rattles the Resistance Axis
Rami G. Khouri
Article 6.
Pew Research Center
Millennials will benefit and suffer due to their
hyperconnected lives
(Overview)
Anick I.
The Atlantic
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Obama to Iran and Israel: 'As President of
the United States, I Don't Bluff
Jeffrey Goldberg
Mar 2 2012 -- At the White House on Monday, President Obama will seek
to persuade the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to postpone
whatever plans he may have to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities in the coming
months. Obama will argue that under his leadership, the United States "has
Israel's back," and that he will order the U.S. military to destroy Iran's
nuclear program if economic sanctions fail to compel Tehran to shelve its
nuclear ambitions.
In the most extensive interview he has given about the looming Iran crisis,
Obama told me earlier this week that both Iran and Israel should take
seriously the possibility of American action against Iran's nuclear facilities.
"I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the
United States, I don't bluff." He went on, "I also don't, as a matter of sound
policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think
both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the
United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we
mean what we say." The 45-minute Oval Office conversation took place
less than a week before the president was scheduled to address the annual
convention of AIPAC, the pro-Israel lobbying group, and then meet, the
next day, with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House. In the
interview, Obama stated specifically that "all options are on the table," and
that the final option is the "military component." But the president also said
that sanctions organized by his administration have put Iran in a "world of
hurt," and that economic duress might soon force the regime in Tehran to
rethink its efforts to pursue a nuclear-weapons program. "Without in any
way being under an illusion about Iranian intentions, without in any way
being naive about the nature of that regime, they are self-interested,"
Obama said. "It is possible for them to make a strategic calculation that, at
minimum, pushes much further to the right whatever potential breakout
capacity they may have, and that may turn out to to be the best decision for
Israel's security." The president also said that Tehran's nuclear program
would represent a "profound" national-security threat to the United States
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even if Israel were not a target of Iran's violent rhetoric, and he dismissed
the argument that the United States could successfully contain a nuclear
Iran. "You're talking about the most volatile region in the world," he said.
"It will not be tolerable to a number of states in that region for Iran to have
a nuclear weapon and them not to have a nuclear weapon. Iran is known to
sponsor terrorist organizations, so the threat of proliferation becomes that
much more severe." He went on to say, "The dangers of an Iran getting
nuclear weapons that then leads to a free-for-all in the Middle East is
something that I think would be very dangerous for the world." The
president was most animated when talking about the chaotic arms race he
fears would break out if Iran acquired a nuclear weapon, and he seemed
most frustrated when talking about what he sees as a deliberate campaign
by Republicans to convince American Jews that he is anti-Israel. "Every
single commitment I have made to the state of Israel and its security, I have
kept," he told me. "Why is it that despite me never failing to support Israel
on every single problem that they've had over the last three years, that there
are still questions about that?" Though he struck a consistently pro-Israel
posture during the interview, Obama went to great lengths to caution Israel
that a premature strike might inadvertently help Iran: "At a time when there
is not a lot of sympathy for Iran and its only real ally, [Syria,] is on the
ropes, do we want a distraction in which suddenly Iran can portray itself as
a victim?" He also said he would try to convince Netanyahu that the only
way to bring about a permanent end to a country's nuclear program is to
convince the country in question that nuclear weapons are not in its best
interest. "Our argument is going to be that it is important for us to see if we
can solve this thing permanently, as opposed to temporarily," he said, "and
the only way historically that a country has ultimately decided not to get
nuclear weapons without constant military intervention has been when they
themselves take [nuclear weapons] off the table. That's what happened in
Libya, that's what happened in South Africa." And though broadly
sympathetic to Netanyahu's often-stated fear that Iran's nuclear program
represents a Holocaust-scale threat to the Jewish state, and the Jewish
people, Obama suggested strongly that historical fears cannot be the sole
basis for precipitous action: "The prime minister is head of a modern state
that is mindful of the profound costs of any military action, and in our
consultations with the Israeli government, I think they take those costs, and
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potential unintended consequences, very seriously." But when I asked the
president if he thought Israel could damage its reputation among
Americans with an attack on Iran -- an attack that could provoke Iranian
retaliation against American targets, and could cause massive economic
disruption -- he said, "I think we in the United States instinctively
sympathize with Israel." President Obama also shared fascinating insights
about his sometimes tension-filled relationship with Netanyahu -- and
spoke at length about Syria -- but for that, you'll have to read the entire
interview. Here is a transcript of our conversation:
JEFFREY GOLDBERG: From what we understand, Prime Minister
Netanyahu is going to ask you for some specific enunciations of red lines,
for specific promises related to the Iranian nuclear program. What is your
message to the prime minister going to be? What do you want to get across
to him?
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: First of all, it's important to say that I
don't know exactly what the prime minister is going to be coming with. We
haven't gotten any indication that there is some sharp "ask" that is going to
be presented. Both the United States and Israel have been in constant
consultation about a very difficult issue, and that is the prospect of Iran
obtaining a nuclear weapon. This is something that has been one of my top
five foreign-policy concerns since I came into office. We, immediately
upon taking over, mapped out a strategy that said we are going to mobilize
the international community around this issue and isolate Iran to send a
clear message to them that there is a path they can follow that allows them
to rejoin the community of nations, but if they refused to follow that path,
that there would be an escalating series of consequences. Three years later,
we can look back and say we have been successful beyond most people's
expectations. When we came in, Iran was united and on the move, and the
world was divided about how to address this issue. Today, the world is as
united as we've ever seen it around the need for Iran to take a different path
on its nuclear program, and Iran is isolated and feeling the severe effects of
the multiple sanctions that have been placed on it. At the same time, we
understand that the bottom line is: Does the problem get solved? And I
think that Israel, understandably, has a profound interest not just in good
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intentions but in actual results. And in the conversations I've had over the
course of three years, and over the course of the last three months and three
weeks, what I've emphasized is that preventing Iran from getting a nuclear
weapon isn't just in the interest of Israel, it is profoundly in the security
interests of the United States, and that when I say we're not taking any
option off the table, we mean it. We are going to continue to apply pressure
until Iran takes a different course.
GOLDBERG: Go back to this language, 'All options on the table.' You've
probably said it 50 or 100 times. And a lot of people believe it, but the two
main intended audiences, the supreme leader of Iran and the prime minister
of Israel, you could argue, don't entirely trust this. The impression we get is
that the Israeli government thinks this is a vague expression that's been
used for so many years. Is there some ramping-up of the rhetoric you're
going to give them?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think the Israeli people understand it, I think the
American people understand it, and I think the Iranians understand it. It
means a political component that involves isolating Iran; it means an
economic component that involves unprecedented and crippling sanctions;
it means a diplomatic component in which we have been able to strengthen
the coalition that presents Iran with various options through the P-5 plus 1
and ensures that the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] is robust
in evaluating Iran's military program; and it includes a military component.
And I think people understand that. I think that the Israeli government
recognizes that, as president of the United States, I don't bluff. I also don't,
as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our
intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments
recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to
have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say. Let describe very
specifically why this is important to us.
In addition to the profound threat that it poses to Israel, one of our
strongest allies in the world; in addition to the outrageous language that has
been directed toward Israel by the leaders of the Iranian government -- if
Iran gets a nuclear weapon, this would run completely contrary to my
policies of nonproliferation. The risks of an Iranian nuclear weapon falling
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into the hands of terrorist organizations are profound. It is almost certain
that other players in the region would feel it necessary to get their own
nuclear weapons. So now you have the prospect of a nuclear arms race in
the most volatile region in the world, one that is rife with unstable
governments and sectarian tensions. And it would also provide Iran the
additional capability to sponsor and protect its proxies in carrying out
terrorist attacks, because they are less fearful of retaliation.
GOLDBERG: What would your position be if Israel weren't in this
picture?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: It would still be a profound national-security
interest of the United States to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
GOLDBERG: Why, then, is this issue so often seen as binary, always
defined as Israel versus Iran?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think it has to do with a legitimate concern on
the part of Israel that they are a small country in a tough neighborhood, and
as a consequence, even though the U.S. and Israel very much share
assessments of how quickly Iran could obtain breakout capacity, and even
though there is constant consultation and intelligence coordination around
that question, Israel feels more vulnerable. And I think the prime minister
and the defense minister, [Ehud Barak,] feel a profound, historic obligation
not to put Israel in a position where it cannot act decisively and unilaterally
to protect the state of Israel. I understand those concerns, and as a
consequence, I think it's not surprising that the way it gets framed, at least
in this country, where the vast majority of people are profoundly
sympathetic to Israel's plight and potential vulnerabilities -- that articles
and stories get framed in terms of Israel's potential vulnerability. But I
want to make clear that when we travel around the world and make
presentations about this issue, that's not how we frame it. We frame it as:
this is something in the national-security interests of the United States and
in the interests of the world community. And I assure you that Europe
would not have gone forward with sanctions on Iranian oil imports --
which are very difficult for them to carry out, because they get a lot of oil
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from Iran -- had it not been for their understanding that it is in the world's
interest, to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. China would not
have abided by the existing sanctions coming out of the National Security
Council, and other countries around the world would not have unified
around those sanctions, had it not been for us making the presentation
about why this was important for everyone, not just one country.
GOLDBERG: Is it possible that the prime minister of Israel has over-
learned the lessons of the Holocaust?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think the prime minister has a profound
responsibility to protect the Israeli people in a hostile neighborhood, and I
am certain that the history of the Holocaust and of anti-Semitism and
brutality directed against the Jewish people for more than a millennium
weighs on him when he thinks about these questions. I think it's important
to recognize, though, that the prime minister is also head of a modern state
that is mindful of the profound costs of any military action, and in our
consultations with the Israeli government, I think they take those costs, and
potential unintended consequences, very seriously.
GOLDBERG: Do you think Israel could cause damage to itself in
America by preempting the Iranian nuclear program militarily?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I don't know how it plays in America. I think we
in the United States instinctively sympathize with Israel, and I think
political support for Israel is bipartisan and powerful. In my discussions
with Israel, the key question that I ask is: How does this impact their own
security environment? I've said it publicly and I say it privately: ultimately,
the Israeli prime minister and the defense minister and others in the
government have to make their decisions about what they think is best for
Israel's security, and I don't presume to tell them what is best for them. But
as Israel's closest friend and ally, and as one that has devoted the last three
years to making sure that Israel has additional security capabilities, and has
worked to manage a series of difficult problems and questions over the past
three years, I do point out to them that we have a sanctions architecture that
is far more effective than anybody anticipated; that we have a world that is
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about as united as you get behind the sanctions; that our assessment, which
is shared by the Israelis, is that Iran does not yet have a nuclear weapon
and is not yet in a position to obtain a nuclear weapon without us having a
pretty long lead time in which we will know that they are making that
attempt. In that context, our argument is going to be that it is important for
us to see if we can solve this thing permanently, as opposed to temporarily.
And the only way, historically, that a country has ultimately decided not to
get nuclear weapons without constant military intervention has been when
they themselves take [nuclear weapons] off the table. That's what happened
in Libya, that's what happened in South Africa. And we think that, without
in any way being under an illusion about Iranian intentions, without in any
way being naive about the nature of that regime, they are self-interested.
They recognize that they are in a bad, bad place right now. It is possible for
them to make a strategic calculation that, at minimum, pushes much further
to the right whatever potential breakout capacity they may have, and that
may turn out to be the best decision for Israel's security. These are difficult
questions, and again, if I were the prime minister of Israel, be wrestling
with them. As president of the United States, I wrestle with them as well.
GOLDBERG: Could you shed some light on your relationship with the
prime minister? You've met with him more than with any other world
leader. It's assumed that you have a dysfunctional relationship. What is it
like?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I actually think the relationship is very
functional, and the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The fact of the
matter is, we've gotten a lot of business done with Israel over the last three
years. I think the prime minister -- and certainly the defense minister --
would acknowledge that we've never had closer military and intelligence
cooperation. When you look at what I've done with respect to security for
Israel, from joint training and joint exercises that outstrip anything that's
been done in the past, to helping finance and construct the Iron Dome
program to make sure that Israeli families are less vulnerable to missile
strikes, to ensuring that Israel maintains its qualitative military edge, to
fighting back against delegitimization of Israel, whether at the [UN]
Human Rights Council, or in front of the UN General Assembly, or during
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the Goldstone Report, or after the flare-up involving the flotilla -- the truth
of the matter is that the relationship has functioned very well.
GOLDBERG: Are you friends? Do you talk about things other than
business?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: You know, the truth of the matter is, both of us
have so much on our plates that there's not always a lot of time to have
discussions beyond business. Having said that, what I think is absolutely
true is that the prime minister and I come out of different political
traditions. This is one of the few times in the history of U.S.-Israeli
relations where you have a government from the right in Israel at the same
time you have a center-left government in the United States, and so I think
what happens then is that a lot of political interpretations of our
relationship get projected onto this. But one thing that I have found in
working with Prime Minister Netanyahu is that we can be very frank with
each other, very blunt with each other, very honest with each other. For the
most part, when we have differences, they are tactical and not strategic.
Our objectives are a secure United States, a secure Israel, peace, the
capacity for our kids to grow up in safety and security and not have to
worry about bombs going off, and being able to promote business and
economic growth and commerce. We have a common vision about where
we want to go. At any given moment -- as is true, frankly, with my
relationship with every other foreign leader -- there's not going to be
perfect alignment of how we achieve these objectives.
GOLDBERG: In an interview three years ago, right before he became
prime minister, Netanyahu told me that he believes Iran is being run by a
"messianic apocalyptic cult." Last week, General Martin Dempsey, the
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. referred to the Iranian leadership as
"rational." Where do you fall on this continuum? Do you feel that the
leaders of Iran might be so irrational that they will not act in what we
would understand to be their self-interest?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think you're right to describe it as a continuum.
There is no doubt they are isolated. They have a very ingrown political
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system. They are founded and fueled on hostility towards the United
States, Israel, and to some degree the West. And they have shown
themselves willing to go outside international norms and international rules
to achieve their objectives. All of this makes them dangerous. They've also
been willing to crush opposition in their own country in brutal and bloody
ways.
GOLDBERG: Do you think they are messianic?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think it's entirely legitimate to say that this is a
regime that does not share our worldview or our values. I do think, and this
is what General Dempsey was probably referring to, that as we look at how
they operate and the decisions they've made over the past three decades,
that they care about the regime's survival. They're sensitive to the opinions
of the people and they are troubled by the isolation that they're
experiencing. They know, for example, that when these kinds of sanctions
are applied, it puts a world of hurt on them. They are able to make
decisions based on trying to avoid bad outcomes from their perspective. So
if they're presented with options that lead to either a lot of pain from their
perspective, or potentially a better path, then there's no guarantee that they
can't make a better decision.
GOLDBERG: It seems unlikely that a regime built on anti-Americanism
would want to appear to succumb to an American-led sanctions effort.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think the question here is going to be: What
exactly are their genuine interests? Now, what we've seen, what we've
heard directly from them over the last couple of weeks is that nuclear
weapons are sinful and un-Islamic. And those are formal speeches from the
supreme leader and their foreign minister.
GOLDBERG: Do you believe their sincerity?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: My point here is not that I believe the sincerity of
the statements coming out of the regime. The point is that for them to
prove to the international community that their intentions are peaceful and
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that they are, in fact, not pursuing weapons, is not inconsistent with what
they've said. So it doesn't require them to knuckle under to us. What it does
require is for them to actually show to the world that there is consistency
between their actions and their statements. And that's something they
should be able to do without losing face.
GOLDBERG: Let me flip this entirely around and ask: Why is
containment not your policy? In the sense that we contained the Soviet
Union, North Korea --
PRESIDENT OBAMA: It's for the reason I described -- because you're
talking about the most volatile region in the world. It will not be tolerable
to a number of states in that region for Iran to have a nuclear weapon and
them not to have a nuclear weapon. Iran is known to sponsor terrorist
organizations, so the threat of proliferation becomes that much more
severe. The only analogous situation is North Korea. We have applied a lot
of pressure on North Korea as well and, in fact, today found them willing
to suspend some of their nuclear activities and missile testing and come
back to the table. But North Korea is even more isolated, and certainly less
capable of shaping the environment [around it] than Iran is. And so the
dangers of an Iran getting nuclear weapons that then leads to a free-for-all
in the Middle East is something that I think would be very dangerous for
the world.
GOLDBERG: Do you see accidental nuclear escalation as an issue?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Absolutely. Look, the fact is, I don't think any of
it would be accidental. I think it would be very intentional. If Iran gets a
nuclear weapon, I won't name the countries, but there are probably four or
five countries in the Middle East who say, "We are going to start a
program, and we will have nuclear weapons." And at that point, the
prospect for miscalculation in a region that has that many tensions and
fissures is profound. You essentially then duplicate the challenges of India
and Pakistan fivefold or tenfold.
GOLDBERG: With everybody pointing at everybody else.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: With everybody pointing at everybody else.
GOLDBERG: What getting at specifically is, let's assume there's a
Hezbollah attack on Israel. Israel responds into Lebanon. Iran goes on
some kind of a nuclear alert, and then one-two-three --
PRESIDENT OBAMA: The potential for escalation in those
circumstances is profoundly dangerous, and in addition to just the potential
human costs of a nuclear escalation like that in the Middle East, just
imagine what would happen in terms of the world economy. The
possibilities of the sort of energy disruptions that we've never seen before
occurring, and the world economy basically coming to a halt, would be
pretty profound. So when I say this is in the U.S. interest, not saying
this is something like to solve.. saying this is something we have
to solve.
GOLDBERG: One of the aspects of this is the question of whether it's
plausible that Barack Obama would ever use military power to stop Iran.
The Republicans are trying to make this an issue -- and not only the
Republicans -- saying that this man, by his disposition, by his character, by
his party, by his center-left outlook, is not going to do that.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Look, if people want to say about me that I have
a profound preference for peace over war, that every time I order young
men and women into a combat theater and then see the consequences on
some of them, if they're lucky enough to come back, that this weighs on me
-- I make no apologies for that. Because anybody who is sitting in my chair
who isn't mindful of the costs of war shouldn't be here, because it's serious
business. These aren't video games that we're playing here. Now, having
said that, I think it's fair to say that the last three years, I've shown myself
pretty clearly willing, when I believe it is in the core national interest of the
United States, to direct military actions, even when they entail enormous
risks. And obviously, the bin Laden operation is the most dramatic, but al-
Qaeda was on its [knees] well before we took out bin Laden because of our
activities and my direction. In Afghanistan, we've made very tough
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decisions because we felt it was very important, in order for an effective
transition out of Afghanistan to take place, for us to be pushing back
against the Taliban's momentum. So aside from the usual politics, I don't
think this is an argument that has a lot of legs. And by the way, it's not an
argument that the American people buy. They may have complaints about
high unemployment still, and that the recovery needs to move faster, but
you don't hear a lot of them arguing somehow that I hesitate to make
decisions as commander in chief when necessary.
GOLDBERG: Can you just talk about Syria as a strategic issue? Talk
about it as a humanitarian issue, as well. But it would seem to me that one
way to weaken and further isolate Iran is to remove or help remove Iran's
only Arab ally.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Absolutely.
GOLDBERG: And so the question is: What else can this administration
be doing?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, look, there's no doubt that Iran is much
weaker now than it was a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. The
Arab Spring, as bumpy as it has been, represents a strategic defeat for Iran,
because what people in the region have seen is that all the impulses
towards freedom and self-determination and free speech and freedom of
assembly have been constantly violated by Iran. [The Iranian leadership is]
no friend of that movement toward human rights and political freedom. But
more directly, it is now engulfing Syria, and Syria is basically their only
true ally in the region. And it is our estimation that [President Bashar al-
Assad's] days are numbered. It's a matter not of if, but when. Now, can we
accelerate that? We're working with the world community to try to do that.
It is complicated by the fact that Syria is a much bigger, more
sophisticated, and more complicated country than Libya, for example -- the
opposition is hugely splintered -- that although there's unanimity within the
Arab world at this point, internationally, countries like Russia are still
blocking potential UN mandates or action. And so what we're trying to do -
- and the secretary of state just came back from helping to lead the Friends
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of Syria group in Tunisia -- is to try to come up with a series of strategies
that can provide humanitarian relief. But they can also accelerate a
transition to a peaceful and stable and representative Syrian government. If
that happens, that will be a profound loss for Iran.
GOLDBERG: Is there anything you could do to move it faster?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, nothing that I can tell you, because your
classified clearance isn't good enough. (Laughter.)
This is part of, by the way, the context in which we have to examine our
approach toward Iran, because at a time when there is not a lot of sympathy
for Iran and its only real ally is on the ropes, do we want a distraction in
which suddenly Iran can portray itself as a victim, and deflect attention
from what has to be the core issue, which is their potential pursuit of
nuclear weapons? That's an example of factors that -- when we are in
consultation with all our allies, including the Israelis, we raise these
factors, because this is an issue of many dimensions here, and we've got to
factor all of them in to achieve the outcome that hopefully we all want.
GOLDBERG: Do the Israelis understand that? There have been
disagreements between Israel and the U.S. before, but this is coming to a
head about what the Israelis see as an existential issue. The question is: In
your mind, have you brought arguments to Netanyahu that have so far
worked out well?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think that in the end, Israel's leaders will make
determinations based on what they believe is best for the security of Israel,
and that is entirely appropriate.
When we present our views and our strategy approach, we try to put all our
cards on the table, to describe how we are thinking about these issues. We
try to back those up with facts and evidence. We compare their assessments
with ours, and where there are gaps, we try to narrow those gaps. And what
I also try to do is to underscore the seriousness with which the United
States takes this issue. And I think that Ehud Barak understands it. I think
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that Prime Minister Netanyahu, hopefully when he sees me next week, will
understand it.
And one of the things that I like to remind them of is that every single
commitment I have made to the state of Israel and its security, I have kept.
I mean, part of your -- not to put words in your mouth -- but part of the
underlying question is: Why is it that despite me never failing to support
Israel on every single problem that they've had over the last three years,
that there are still questions about that?
GOLDBERG: That's a good way to phrase it.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: And my answer is: there is no good reason to
doubt me on these issues.
Some of it has to do with the fact that in this country and in our media, this
gets wrapped up with politics. And I don't think that's any secret. And if
you have a set of political actors who want to see if they can drive a wedge
not between the United States and Israel, but between Barack Obama and a
Jewish American vote that has historically been very supportive of his
candidacy, then it's good to try to fan doubts and raise questions. But when
you look at the record, there's no "there" there. And my job is to try to
make sure that those political factors are washed away on an issue that is of
such eat strategic and security importance to our two countries. And so
when talking to the prime minister, or my team is talking to the Israeli
government, what I want is a hardheaded, clear-eyed assessment of how do
we achieve our goals. And our goals are in sync. And historically, one of
the reasons that the U.S.-Israeli relationship has survived so well and
thrived is shared values, shared history, the links between our peoples. But
it's also been because it has been a profoundly bipartisan commitment to
the state of Israel. And the flip side of it is that, in terms of Israeli politics,
there's been a view that regardless of whether it's a Democratic or
Republican administration, the working assumption is: we've got Israel's
back. And that's something that I constantly try to reinforce and remind
people of.
GOLDBERG: Wait, in four words, is that your message to the prime
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minister -- we've got Israel's back?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: That is not just my message to the prime
minister, that's been my message to the Israeli people, and to the pro-Israel
community in this country, since I came into office. It's hard for me to be
clearer than I was in front of the UN General Assembly, when I made a
more full-throated defense of Israel and its legitimate security concerns
than any president in history -- not, by the way, in front of an audience that
was particularly warm to the message. So that actually won't be my
message. My message will be much more specific, about how do we solve
this problem.
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The Washington Post
Mideast peace, with something short of a deal
Robert Malley and Aaron David Miller
March 3 -- President Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu will devote little time Monday to the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict, in part because of Iran and election-year politics. But the principal
cause is this: A negotiated, two-state solution is running harder than ever
against intractable political and psychological realities in Israel, Palestine
and the Arab world. These are pushing toward a de facto outcome that will
not be negotiated, comprehensive or conflict-ending. Even assuming
Netanyahu is prepared to embrace a two-state solution acceptable to
Palestinians, he would have to take on powerful settler and right-wing
constituencies at a time when regional tumult and Iran's nuclear progress
exacerbate national feelings of insecurity. Netanyahu's assertion that the
Palestinian split and instability in the Arab world counsel against risky
moves might be a convenient excuse to do nothing — but that doesn't
necessarily make it wrong. And he is unlikely to jeopardize his political
future or his country's security chasing a solution that, to his mind, does
both.
Among Palestinians, the brewing crisis over President Mahmoud Abbas's
potential succession, popular disenchantment with the peace process and
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the appeal of internationalizing the conflict mean there are few political
incentives for flexibility toward Israel. Divisions between the Fatah and
Hamas factions complicate matters: Their recent agreement is paper-thin
and highlights that, for now, Palestinians are focused more on immediate
politics than on their longer-term fate. Then there are regional
developments: Abbas can no longer rely on influential Arab cover for
controversial compromises. The Islamist wave is a reliable indicator of
where popular Arab sentiment resides; it probably will not translate into
imminent hostility toward Israel but, at a minimum, excludes a
forthcoming approach. Conditions will not remain static. Over time, the
political landscape is likely to be carved by local actors' concerns. Reports
of Israel's isolation may be exaggerated, but international ill will is
mounting. Israelis recognize that if Palestinians remain under occupation
for much longer, they may drop their call for independent statehood and
demand equal rights in a single, binational (i.e., no longer Jewish) state.
Israel has a potential answer: a withdrawal from the most populated areas
of the West Bank, preserving the bulk of settlements and overall Israeli
dominion and sparing the country a wrenching internal conflict. The idea is
not new: Mooted in Gaza in 2005, its planned extension to the West Bank
was halted when Palestinians' acquisition of weapons through a porous
border with Egypt soured Israelis' mood. Sooner or later, the plan could be
revived, coupled with an Israeli military presence in the Jordan Valley to
minimize risks of a Gazan repeat. Fatah and the Ramallah-based
Palestinian Authority have a long-term objective that differs markedly from
Israel's: a state enjoying full sovereign rights on virtually all the land
occupied in 1967. But many among them are working toward goals that are
closer at hand: building institutions of a putative state, governing their
people and lessening Israel's footprint. They are unlikely to agree with
Jerusalem over the scope of its withdrawal, which almost certainly makes
negotiations futile. For now, a unilateral Israeli decision could suit both
sides. A greater chasm separates Hamas's and Israel's ideas for a
permanent solution. Paradoxically, this means they could be inclined to
settle for a long-term de facto understanding — what the Islamist
movement calls a truce and Israel calls an interim arrangement. Here, too,
their perspectives collide, as Hamas's conception of a truce entails a full
withdrawal from the West Bank and the right of return for Palestinian
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refugees, steps Israel will adamantly reject in a permanent or temporary
agreement. Still, an Israeli pullout from parts of the West Bank, coupled
with a mutual cease-fire but without any interaction with or recognition of
the Jewish state, is something Hamas would welcome as a victory without
endorsing as a deal.
Such an outcome would promote the protagonists' short-term interests.
Israel would mollify Western critics and neutralize the Palestinian
demographic threat; Fatah could continue building institutions of a future
state; Hamas again may claim credit for pushing Israel back without
compromising on core principles. But the conflict would endure. Israel
would not achieve Arab recognition or an end to Palestinian claims; Fatah
would not have produced a sovereign, independent state or resolved the
refugee issue; and Hamas would have to acquiesce in the continued
presence of a Jewish state on what it considers Palestinian land. The
ultimate reckoning would still loom, arguably under conditions more
inimical to the comprehensive resolution all claim to seek.
Since the inception of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the status of the land
between the Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea has been determined
almost invariably by acts of war or unilateral decisions. Even the Oslo
Accords altered the status of Palestinian territory little on the ground.
Someday this may change. For now, events outside the negotiating room
again deserve far more consideration than what's happening inside — and
could shape Israeli-Palestinian relations for some time to come.
Robert Malley is director of the International Crisis Group's Middle East and North
Africa Program. Aaron David Miller, a distinguished scholar at the Woodrow Wilson
International Centerfor Scholars, is the author of theforthcoming book "Can
America Have Another Great President?"
The daily Beast
Shimon Peres's Influence Wanes as Israel
Grows More Bellicose Toward Iran
Dan Ephron
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March 2, 2012 -- The oddest odd couple in Israeli politics might just be
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres, both of
whom are in Washington this week for meetings with President Obama.
Netanyahu is an unwavering skeptic with a deep devotion to Greater Israel,
Peres a relentlessly optimistic peacenik. Yet for much of the past three
years, Netanyahu had no bigger booster than Peres, who repeatedly
vouched for him with foreign leaders and assured people he genuinely
wants peace. Netanyahu, in return, allowed Peres a brief role in contacts
with the Palestinians, though as president, his job description restricts him
mostly to pomp and circumstance. Now the honeymoon might be ending.
People familiar with the relationship say tensions have bubbled to the
surface in recent months over how to cope with Iran's nuclear ambitions
and what to offer the Palestinians. So much so that while Netanyahu is
expected to tell Obama that Israel will take action on its own if sanctions
against Iran don't produce quick results—raising the specter of a regional
war—Peres has different ideas. "When you see that the United States and
Europe are taking steps [to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons] ...
that's the way right now," he told Newsweek in a recent interview in
Jerusalem. "We don't have to monopolize it."
That Israel's two most senior political figures don't see eye to eye on the
weightiest issues of the day is hardly unprecedented. Israel's first prime
minister, David Ben-Gurion, is said to have imbued the presidency with
zero executive powers precisely to prevent his political rival, Chaim
Weizmann, from having a role in the decision making. But it's a reminder
that even as Israel edges toward confrontation with Iran, in defiance of
Washington, how to deal with the mullahs is the subject of fierce debate
inside Israel—not just within the political establishment but also in the
military and the intelligence community. It's also a reflection of
Netanyahu's diminished status among a certain group of politicians, public
figures, and journalists who believed three years ago that Netanyahu would
surprise everyone by striking a deal with Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas. Peres is merely the latest member of the group to face
disillusionment. "For a long time, Peres nurtured the hope that with his
input and consultation, Netanyahu would be much more forthcoming and
active in the peace process," says David Landau, who has coauthored two
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books with Peres and sees him regularly. "But of late, Peres has given up
that hope."
The backstory of the bromance between Peres and Netanyahu is a
complicated one. In 1996 the two had squared off in one of Israel's most
fiercely fought elections for prime minister, just months after a right-wing
Jew murdered Israeli leader Yitzhak Rabin in a bid to halt the Oslo peace
process. Peres succeeded Rabin, but then lost to Netanyahu by less than
half a percentage point, leaving the Israeli left with the feeling that the
assassin had won—and casting a dark cloud over the fate of the peace
process. Yossi Beilin, who served as a member of Peres's cabinet at the
time, recalls feeling bereft, "really broken," when results were announced.
Yet he found Peres remarkably composed. He remembers overhearing
Peres ask his wife on the phone that day what she was cooking. When the
answer, chicken, came back, Peres gave her the standard response: I'll be
home for lunch. The ability to rebound from defeat was vintage Peres, but
he didn't seem to harbor a grudge against Netanyahu, which surprised
people around him. Peres is not above bad-mouthing political enemies—
his decades-long rivalry with Rabin, a member of his own party, produced
some seriously nasty invective. But people who know him say they've
never heard him utter a bad word about Netanyahu, either after the election
or in the years since. Landau attributes the courtesy to a certain reverence
for Yoni Netanyahu, Benjamin's brother, who was killed leading the daring
rescue of hostages at Entebbe in 1976. Peres, who served as defense
minister at the time, dispatched Yoni on the mission and carries the burden
of effectively having signed his death warrant.
One way or another, Peres seems to have welcomed Netanyahu's return to
the prime minister's office in 2009, even as members of the peace camp
cringed. By then Peres had been serving as president for almost two years
and was able to lend a hand by, among other things, smoothing early
wrinkles in Netanyahu's relationship with Obama. But the good will
appears to have run out last September, when Netanyahu vetoed a meeting
Peres was to have held with Abbas in Amman, Jordan. The two had met
secretly on four previous occasions in what amounted to the most vigorous
surge of diplomacy between Israelis and Palestinians in years. Netanyahu
hoped the meetings would divert Abbas from petitioning the United
Nations for membership, according to a source in Netanyahu's inner circle,
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a move Israel feared would lead to its isolation. When Abbas pressed ahead
with the •. initiative, Netanyahu terminated the Peres backchannel.
About the prospects of an agreement with the Palestinians, Peres said the
gaps were small, a characterization that is at odds with even the most
upbeat assessments in the region.
In the interview with Newsweek, Peres sidestepped questions about
tensions with Netanyahu. At 88, Peres has more than a quarter century on
the Israeli prime minister, a gap that seems to infuse even his frustrations
with an avuncular spirit. But he did say repeatedly that giving time for
sanctions against Iran to work was the right thing to do (Netanyahu has
said the sanctions aren't enough and has made clear to the Americans that
Israel might launch airstrikes). He also said Obama appeared to have a
"deep conviction" that Iran must not get the bomb, in contrast to the
skepticism some people around Netanyahu express about the American
president. "Let's give the necessary time to see the effect of the economic
sanctions," he said in his Jerusalem office. "There is quite an important
alliance to prevent it from happening [Iran developing nuclear weapons].
Give them a chance."
About the prospects of an agreement with the Palestinians, Peres said the
gaps were small, a characterization that is at odds with even the most
upbeat assessments in the region. Israelis and Palestinians have not
engaged in sustained talks in more than three years, the longest diplomatic
drought since the start of the Oslo peace process in 1993. Most observers
believe that both sides are moving away from an agreement that would
resolve their conflict, not toward one.
But Peres is irrepressible as always. He says the setbacks are blips on a
graph line that has mostly ascended since the '70s and '80s, when Israel
and the PLO refused to even recognize each other. And he believes there's
no real alternative to the two-state solution if Israel wants to maintain its
democratic character. Peres recently co-wrote a book with Landau about
his mentor, Ben-Gurion. It concludes that Ben-Gurion's greatest decision
was accepting the United Nations partition plan, which gave Israel a state
but much less territory than it sought. The book is a historical accounting
from a man who worked under him for decades. But Landau says Peres
also thinks of it as a contemporary tract. "He's trying to deliver a message
to people here and now that nothing has changed since Ben-Gurion's
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decision," Landau said. "In order to maintain a democratic country, Israel
needs to forgo part of the territory."
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Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Fearful of a nuclear Iran? The real WMD
nightmare is Syria
Charles P. Blair
1 March 2012 -- As possible military action against Iran's suspected
nuclear weapons program looms large in the public arena, far more
international concern should be directed toward Syria and its weapons of
mass destruction. When the Syrian uprising began more than a year ago,
few predicted the regime of President Bashar al-Assad would ever teeter
toward collapse. Now, though, the demise of Damascus's current leadership
appears inevitable, and Syria's revolution will likely be an unpredictable,
protracted, and grim affair. Some see similarities with Libya's civil war,
during which persistent fears revolved around terrorist seizure of Libyan
chemical weapons, or the Qaddafi regime's use of them against insurgents.
Those fears turned out to be unfounded.
But the Libyan chemical stockpile consisted of several tons of aging
mustard gas leaking from a half-dozen canisters that would have been
impossible to utilize as weapons. Syria likely has one of the largest and
most sophisticated chemical weapon programs in the world. Moreover,
Syria may also possess an offensive biological weapons capability that
Libya did not.
While it is uncertain whether the Syrian regime would consider using
WMD against its domestic opponents, Syrian insurgents, unlike many of
their Libyan counterparts, are increasingly sectarian and radicalized;
indeed, many observers fear the uprising is being "hij
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