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Hello All,
Just got off the phone with our tracker, Kelli, on the ground in Lake
Forest, CA. Below are the notes from our call.
Big Highlights
- McCain cites failure of his 1st marriage as greatest personal moral
failure
- Says to him, faith means 'i'm saved and forgiven'
- w/r/t taxes, jokes that "rich" is defined as $5m, says he doesn't want
to tax the rich or anyone, doesnt want class warfare -
- Cites offshore drilling as the most significant position he's changed
his mind on since 10 yrs ago
- says he would support fed. marriage amendment if SCOTUS applied MA
marriage law to other states
- retells cross story from POW camp but adds "for a minute it was just 2
christians standing there"
- says he is "proud of Bush" for SCOTUS nominations
- Says his 'most gut-wrenching decision' was not taking early release
from POW camp
- Says we'll have to 'step up our ability to monitor' in question about
natl security vs. rts to privacy
Lake Forest, CA: McCain at Joint Values Forum 08/16/08
(Disclaimer: The following are notes, not direct quotes. If you'd like a
quotable transcript or video of any part below, please email us.)
Background Details
- About 100 demonstrators at various locations around Church: mostly
pro-McCain; also pro-Paul, pro-Obama; pro-life (pics of dead babies etc)
[tracking footage NOT available]
- Very tight security: secret service, local police (including the
cavalry division, bike cops and cops on segways), and church security
guards.
- Many guests told their tickets were not good for entrance into the
auditorium and instead were diverted to several different tents
with screens
set up.
- Visitors with the correct tickets were turned away if they had large
purses, cameras or cell phones.
- The street entrances to the church were blocked off by police, audience
members and press parked off site and were shuttled in.
- Only certain networks were allowed into the event. Others, incl. many
local affiliates, put in a cafeteria at the church compound with live audio
feed and projection of live video feed onto 2 screens.
*Speech Highlights*
- 1Q) Leadership. Who are the 3 wisest ppl you know you would rely on
heavily in an Administration?
- JM: First would be Petraeus, 1 of the great generals, took us from
defeat to victory in Iraq. 4th of July a year ago L. Graham and I in
Baghdad. Only someone like DP could motivate someone like that. (2) John
Lewis - continues to serve and have optimistic view of USA. can teach us
about serving selflessly. (3) Meg Whitman
- 2Q) What's been your greatest moral failure and the greatest moral
failure of USA?
- JM: Mine, and i have been a very imperfect person, is *the failure
of my 1st marriage.* USA's has been thruout our existence perhaps we
haven't devoted ourselves to causes greater than our
self-interest, although
we've been teh best at it in the world. After 9/11, we shouldnt have told
ppl to go shopping but to expand our volunteers, expand our
great missions
in USA and across the world, esp in Rwanda. And a lil pandering here, the
1st lines in your book are this is not about you and that means serve a
cause greater than your selfinterest.
- 3Q) An example of where you led against your party's interests and
maybe against your own best interests for the good of USA?
- JM: By strange coincidence, I wasnt elected Miss Congeniality again
this year. Climate change, spending, torture, the list goes on where I've
put my country first and reached across the aisle. 1 of the
times, probably
the most trying, when I was first in Congress adn very dedicated to
Reagan--he won the cold war without firing a shot--he wanted to
send troops
to Beirut in a peacekeeping mission and my knowledge and
background told me
that was bad. as many know, 100 marines gave their lives for that. it was
tough to go against my party and be called disloyal.
- 4Q) *What's the most significant position you held 10 years ago that
you don't hold today? *
- JM: *Offshore drilling.* we gotta drill now and here. I know that
there are some here in Cal-i-fornia that disagree with that
position. Could
i also mention this is a natl security issue? we're sending $700b to
countries that dont like us very much, incl. to terrorists. We
cannot allow
it. Let me say, too, at the town hall mtgs that i have every day
energy is
what's on ppls minds every day, so let me take a sec. We have to do
everything: wind, solar, hybrid cars, hydrogen cars, and it has
to include
nuclear. Everyone wants to imitate the French. we now have a pro-American
president of french.
- 5Q) Most gut-wrenching decision you ever had to make and what'd you do
to make it?
- JM: Long ago and far away in prison camp in N Vietnam. My father was
high-ranking admiral and they offered me early release. Code of
conduct said
we left in order we arrived adn i had a friend Alvarez that had
come before.
i was not in good physical condition, but i said no. In full disclosure i
didnt know the war was going to last another 3 yrs. not only the toughest
decision but also i'm the happiest with that decision as any i've made.
- 6Q) What does being a Christian mean to you? and what does it mean in
your everyday life?
- JM:* It means i'm saved and forgiven.* And not just the US but the
world. The vietnamese kept us in prison 2-3 or solitary confinement. they
would sometimes bind us. 1 night a guard came in adn loosened
the ropes. 4
hours later tightened them and left. on Xmas we were lined up
outside cell
and same guard drew a cross in the sand and then rubbed it out
and walked a
way. *for a minute, it was just 2 christians standing there.*
- 7Q) 40million abortions since Roe v. Wade. For ppl who believe life
begins at conception, thats a holocaust. What point is a baby entitled to
human rights?
- JM: at the moment of conception. i have a 25-year pro-life record,
in Cong, Senate and I will be pro-life POTUS with pro-life policies.
- 8Q) Ok, define marriage.
- JM: Union b/t man and woman, b/t one man and one woman. are we going
to get back to SCOTUS or should i here?
- FOLLOWUP: was CA Sup Ct ruling wrong?
- JM: I believe they were wrong. I believe we should preserve unique
status of marriage. It doesn't mean they can't enter into legal
agreements.
* **If a fed court decided AZ would have to follow same rules as MA,
then i'd favor a constitutional amendment. but it's a states decision.
*
- 9Q) Would you favor fed amendment for embryonic stem cell research
given new developmetns in technology?
- JM: difficult decision for those in pro-life community but i've come
down on side of embryonic stem cell rsch, though i think skin
cell rsch will
make this debate academic.
- 10Q) Does evil exist and should we contain it, ignore it or defeat it?
- JM: Defeat it. i will follow bin laden to the gates of hell and i
know how to get him. central battleground is in iraq. its not
just in AQ,
its not just in iraq; theyre establishing cells here in USA too.
- 11Q) Whcih existing SCOTUS justices would you NOT have nominated?
- JM: with all due repsect, Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Souter and
Stevens.
- WHY?
- JM: POTUS has enormous responsiblity in picking lifetime appts.
Should not legislate from the bench. and btw, Justices Alito and
Roberts are
2 fo my most recent faves and* i'm proud of Bush for nominating them.
*
- 12Q) Would you insist that faith-based orgs not discriminate on faith
in order to receive federal funding?
- JM: Absolutely not.
- 13Q) USA 18th in education but 1st in education. 80(?)% of Americans
believe in merit pay. I don't want your stump but--
- JM: Yes yes and find bad teachers another line of work. Choice and
compeition (repeats), home schools, charter. I want every
American to have
same choice as Cindy and I and Obamas had. Charter and home-schools work.
Vouchers in DC works. [goes into stump] NYC is reforming, NOLA. We gave
everyone chance to go to school but what good does it do to send them to
failing school?
- 14Q) On taxing, define the rich. Give me a # on difference b/t middle
class and rich.
- JM: *Some of the richest ppl i know are most unhappy. richness
should be defined by home, education and ability to give
children a better
world. i dont want to tax the rich, i dont want class warfare or
redistribution of wealth. t*here are small business ppl working 16
hours / day that some would define as rich. lets give ppl tax credits for
health care, let's not have the govt take over. *if youre just talking
about income, how about $5M?* seriously--and i'm sure that comment
will be distorted--we want to keep taxes low and increase revenue.
spending's been the probelm. we spent $3m of your money studying DNA for
bears. we laugh about it but we cry. while youre paying at the
pump, theyre
on vacation. we should stop them and call them back. we cant
raise taxes in
tough economic times. i want to give working americans a better shot at
having a good life. Americans are hurting: unemployment, foreclosure,
education, affordable health care. We need to give Americans hope and
confidence in the future. and i can inspire, i can lead.
- 15Q) [not time for this w. obama] Right to privacy vs. national
security?
- JM: we must preserve rt to privacy for all citizens, incl. secret
ballot for union members. we've had technological advances over 20-30 yrs
letting our enemies have remarkable ability to communicate. through
cyberspace, etc, ppl can communicate. so* we'll have to step up our
ability to monitor. *sometimes within USA sometimes not. Congress
needs to address it in bipartisan fashion. our inability to work
things out
was compromising our ability to ward off terrorist attacks.
- 16Q) What's worth risking American lives?
- JM:* freedom. natl security. we must temper that with the ability to
affect the outcome. *wars have started in obscure places that have
later inveloped us. *we cant right every wrong* but we can be a beacon
of hope and liberty for the world. there are conflicts we cant
settle. the
most precious thing we have is american blood. we have shed our blood for
freedom of other countries - no other country in world has done
that. we've
succeed in other ways. *we won the Cold War w/o firing a shot b/c of
our ideology. and communism was wrong and evil, and we defeated
it jsut as
we can defeat islamic extremism.*
- FOLLOWUP: What's your criteria for war?
- JM: American natl security interest.
- FOLLOWUP: What about Darfur? or massive killingi n Georgia?
- JM: our obligation is to stop what we can. rwanda. we've got to do
more to stop genocide in darfur. we should supply logistics and
aid ot help
the Africans. we have to be committed to never say 'never again' again?
- 17Q) What about Russia's aggressions?
- im sad to sit here while such terrible things are happening. 118k
are being affected in that country. it was 1 of first christian
nations in
14th cent. Saaskishvili was educated in US. in georgia they achieved a
revolution, achieved prosperity. and now russians are
aggressing. we need a
ceasefire. they need to respect territorial integrity.
- it's about energy. russians are using energy as weapon against
europeans. we need to send a msg to the russians that this
behavior is not
acceptable in 21st century.
- 18Q) Religious persecution- what would you do to put pressure on
so-called allies, e.g. china, iraq, that dont allow religious frdm?
- JM: bully pulpit is one of President's greatest assets. Reagan
called to take down this wall and he was todl not to. our
judeo-christian principles dictate that we do what we can to
help ppl aroudn
the world. in dark corners of world, lil countries like belarus
yearn to be
like us. but we remain the most unusual experiment in history
adn im proud
to be a part of it. i know what it's like without it.
- 19Q) Would you consider something akin to president's emergency plan
for AIDS for children who become orphans? assisting families take in these
children?
- JM: i think we need to make adoption more available in USA--thats
why so many ppl go abroad for it. My great hero T. Roosevelt was
1st to talk
about adoption. [anecdote about cindy adopting Bridget from bangladesh.
she's 17 and our life is blessed]
- 20Q) why do you want to be POTUS?
- JM: I want to insipre a generation of americans to serve a cause
greater than their self-interest. i think americas best days are ahead of
us. but we also face a # of challenges, domestic and foreign --
these past
few days have shown us that mroe. i've always put my country first, from
military to House of Reps to Senate. America watns hope, optimism,
bipartisanship. i ahve record of reaching across the aisle.
america thinks
its time to sit down together. when i go to gee's bend and meet the
Afr-American women there who are lovely and go to other places where they
probably won't vote for me, they know that i will be president of every
american and i will always put my country first?
- 21Q) What will you say to ppl that question me asking you these
questions in a church?
- JM: I'd like to be in every venue in america. this is an important
election. our nation was founded on judeo-chrisitan values. im
happy to be
in a place where you've done so much good.
- [standing ovation]
- warren brings them both on stage, they shake hands
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