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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Barry J. Cohen
Subject: Re: Plane
yes , I would ask that you go through and see exactl= which years you tookk what and it produce a real szable benefit.
=AO . form a new entity for the contract sign=ng. have that entity have the right to assign.
On Sat, Au= 5, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Barry J. Cohen < =wrote:
We never took accelerated depreci=tion due to lack of passive income. Unused depreciation has been carried
f=rward. Basis is therefore a little high.
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On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:23 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@gm=il.com>
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not necessarily . talk monday.
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Barry J. Cohen < <mailto:bcohen=apollolp.com>
<mailto <mailt > » wrote:
Plane sale is minor loss.
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On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:35 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@gm=il.com>
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<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>» wro=e:
same idea to make sure boat sale , plane sale art sale . all pr=duce the best after tax result.
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Barry J. Cohen < <mailto:bcohen=apollolp.com>
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These are all things we are trying to think about. Our new internal g=y is great, but he doesn't bring solutions
with him because, like you =ay, no one is quite like Leon. Since he just joined us, we're starting=certain planning work
later than we would like.
EY is good but they are better at answering questions than providing proact=ve planning advice. And I am
finding them a little slow.
Your derivatives financing idea is a good one. Who would be a good person t= talk to about it? Justin at JPM?
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On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:49 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@g=ailcom>
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barry, perfect example of what i have been trying to explain. =C2 without context the question makes little
sense. =x if all is income is ordinary. selling things at a los= does nothing . however if he is getting mo=e capital
gains next year. you miight generate losses and carry them=forward or back. if we think the tax rates will change we
mig=t create fictiioous gains. and use the loss but have a higher =asis for next year. if the loss in on the trust side ,=C2
it is a benefit to the future tax of the children. =A0sorry to be so long winded but at least i am consistent :)
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One problem is that we want Leon to tell us what art he is interested in se=ling. I don't think he can do that. We
should tell him whether we want=him to sell either his gains or his losses and why.
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there has been little if any proper planning for tax this year and ne=t. this needs to be done after the program
and materials are =ut in form
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I hear you. There is no blue print. I think our numbers are finally t=orough and accurate. We haven't discussed
it much, but technolog= and security have been a huge focus for me since I joined Elysium. Making=slow but steady
progress.
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After fridays discussion
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/pic-archivehircraft-ownership/business-justification-aircraft-
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I suggest you focus on large issues first. . the discussi=ns re personal use of plane . parties travel. may be
relevant =t the tippy tip of the margins but these answers should=C2 flow from the structure. On what form will you
use the =eduction. ? which business. , its structure. diffe=ent buisnesses etc.
Barry , what you will find is that there is very few answers t= be found on point as people in leons position
rarely make cases to tax co=rt. exception being estate issues. . =lanes owned by farmers salesman, bankers. are
usua=ly small planes. meaningless to leons issue. =AO large biz gets are usually owned by corporations. . =C2 the
facts. there are approx 400,000 planes in the =tates. out of that large number only about 13, 000 total priva=e jets.
out of that class only 2000 large jets =AO and most owned by corporations. how many people have=business of leons
size . not including his art work.
You asked , me what do we do now. as=l told Brad years ago. First and foremost is accur=te numbers
presented in an organized fashion. that is 8= percent of the grunt work. Once all the numbers are in shape = ie
materials for the building of the financial architecture.=C2 . Leons goals must be addressed and programatic . =C2
this takes hours of discussion. . next . plans are=drawn up, . modifications are made, issues of sec=regulation, tax,
control, succession. mechanics. all need to b= planned and adjusted to meet the goals.
You need to recognize that there are few , very few exa=ples of the house that in leons case needs to be re
built. =AO most people with leons wealth have a serious family office=C2 with a huge stock portfolio. , not art. and of
those , =ew hold dormant assets ie apollo. . Its been ten years=C2 since apollo went public. and the house needs total
reno=ation. upgrades in tech, security, and the family has c=anged all very similar to architecting a house after the
chil=ren have grown and left.
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