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Meeting Sweeney on Sat. Will let you know if anything else needs to
be followed up on.
On 9/11/08, Melody Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
> John
>
> See below Seth Harris' note about AFL and Change to Win involvement. I
> forgot that one of his picks is Mike Kerr who would appear to check the
> SEIU/CTW box. On a related note, while we didn't ask our folks to seek
> organizational reps, we have now asked them to let us know of those on their
> teams who are from a key constituency (just so we know).
>
> FROM SETH:
>
> "Since we decided not to launch a stakeholder outreach strategy before the
> election, I did not reach out to the AFL or Change to Win before proposing
> members for the Labor Department agency review. Rather, I focused on former
> agency/department leaders since they are most likely to have the information
> we need and the ability to perform the analysis that will be required for
> our various products. Two of my nominees (and current team members) were
> Deborah Greenfield, an assistant general counsel at the AFL-CIO, and Michael
> Kerr, Deputy Secretary-Treasurer at Change to Win. Both have extensive DOL
> experience of various types (they also happen to have worked together in
> DOL) and they are both well respected in the labor movement and among DOL
> alumni. I know both of them well and trust them completely.
>
> Appointing both Deborah and Michael preempted any concern that we were
> favoring one labor federation over the other in the pre-election review
> process. It also gave the labor federations a sense that they were being
> invited to participate without actually engaging them at the institutional
> level. Deborah and Michael (and I believe their superiors in their
> institutions) understand that they are not representing the AFL, SEIU, or
> Change to Win in this process. There had been some confusion at the AFL on
> this point, but I have had some informal discussions that I believe cleared
> up the misunderstanding. Rather, they are both working as individuals with
> DOL experience to help our review efforts, albeit informed by their
> institutions' interests.
>
> In my view, adding Michael and Deborah to the team obviates any need to
> undertake further outreach to the AFL or Change to Win regarding the agency
> review process. I understand that the AFL's leadership is happy to have
> Deborah involved and that the SEIU leadership is equally happy about
> Michael's involvement. In my informal discussions, I haven't heard anything
> that suggests they expect pre-election consultations regarding the agency
> review. However, they certainly expect to be consulted more generally about
> transition matters --- hence the discussions with John. Also, as noted
> above, they may want representation on the agency liaison teams after the
> election.
>
> Although this apparently hasn't become an issue yet, you should also know
> that I have invited Sarah Fox, another assistant general counsel at the
> AFL-CIO and a former member of the NLRB, and Fred Feinstein, a consultant to
> the SEIU and Change to Win and a former general counsel to the NLRB, to
> serve as the agency reviewers for the NLRB. It is interesting that their
> prospective roles have not generated any comment, at least to my knowledge.
> I suspect that is because they are such obvious choices, so prominent in the
> field, and so well-connected to both labor federations that it might have
> been odd if we had not invited them to serve as our reviewers. Then again,
> it may be that neither has spoken with their superiors at the AFL and CTW
> and that there are more phone calls to come.
>
> Given our strategy to hold off on stakeholder consultations until after
> Election Day, I don't have any plans to reach out to them or any other
> constituency group formally during the pre-election process. Of course, the
> transition project's leadership should engage both the AFL and the CTW in
> discussions about their role going forward. As always, I would be happy to
> help with these discussions in any way the transition project's leadership
> will find helpful.
>
> I hope you find this discussion helpful. Again,
>
> Seth Harris
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:11:55 -0400
From: "John Podesta" <[email protected]>
To: "Melody Barnes" <[email protected]>
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Meeting Sweeney on Sat. Will let you know if anything else needs to
be followed up on.
On 9/11/08, Melody Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
> John
>
> See below Seth Harris' note about AFL and Change to Win involvement. I
> forgot that one of his picks is Mike Kerr who would appear to check the
> SEIU/CTW box. On a related note, while we didn't ask our folks to seek
> organizational reps, we have now asked them to let us know of those on their
> teams who are from a key constituency (just so we know).
>
> FROM SETH:
>
> "Since we decided not to launch a stakeholder outreach strategy before the
> election, I did not reach out to the AFL or Change to Win before proposing
> members for the Labor Department agency review. Rather, I focused on former
> agency/department leaders since they are most likely to have the information
> we need and the ability to perform the analysis that will be required for
> our various products. Two of my nominees (and current team members) were
> Deborah Greenfield, an assistant general counsel at the AFL-CIO, and Michael
> Kerr, Deputy Secretary-Treasurer at Change to Win. Both have extensive DOL
> experience of various types (they also happen to have worked together in
> DOL) and they are both well respected in the labor movement and among DOL
> alumni. I know both of them well and trust them completely.
>
> Appointing both Deborah and Michael preempted any concern that we were
> favoring one labor federation over the other in the pre-election review
> process. It also gave the labor federations a sense that they were being
> invited to participate without actually engaging them at the institutional
> level. Deborah and Michael (and I believe their superiors in their
> institutions) understand that they are not representing the AFL, SEIU, or
> Change to Win in this process. There had been some confusion at the AFL on
> this point, but I have had some informal discussions that I believe cleared
> up the misunderstanding. Rather, they are both working as individuals with
> DOL experience to help our review efforts, albeit informed by their
> institutions' interests.
>
> In my view, adding Michael and Deborah to the team obviates any need to
> undertake further outreach to the AFL or Change to Win regarding the agency
> review process. I understand that the AFL's leadership is happy to have
> Deborah involved and that the SEIU leadership is equally happy about
> Michael's involvement. In my informal discussions, I haven't heard anything
> that suggests they expect pre-election consultations regarding the agency
> review. However, they certainly expect to be consulted more generally about
> transition matters --- hence the discussions with John. Also, as noted
> above, they may want representation on the agency liaison teams after the
> election.
>
> Although this apparently hasn't become an issue yet, you should also know
> that I have invited Sarah Fox, another assistant general counsel at the
> AFL-CIO and a former member of the NLRB, and Fred Feinstein, a consultant to
> the SEIU and Change to Win and a former general counsel to the NLRB, to
> serve as the agency reviewers for the NLRB. It is interesting that their
> prospective roles have not generated any comment, at least to my knowledge.
> I suspect that is because they are such obvious choices, so prominent in the
> field, and so well-connected to both labor federations that it might have
> been odd if we had not invited them to serve as our reviewers. Then again,
> it may be that neither has spoken with their superiors at the AFL and CTW
> and that there are more phone calls to come.
>
> Given our strategy to hold off on stakeholder consultations until after
> Election Day, I don't have any plans to reach out to them or any other
> constituency group formally during the pre-election process. Of course, the
> transition project's leadership should engage both the AFL and the CTW in
> discussions about their role going forward. As always, I would be happy to
> help with these discussions in any way the transition project's leadership
> will find helpful.
>
> I hope you find this discussion helpful. Again,
>
> Seth Harris
>
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