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From: Vincenzo lozzo Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:06 PM To: jeffrey E. Cc: Jeremy Rubin Subject: Re: DNC docs Back to this and at risk of stretching the parallel with race conditions too=far, one of the things you do with code is to change the "nature"/shape of t=e underlying entity/shape during the race. So to some extent it becomes les= about moving things. An example would be: we initially state that I'm going to pay you in usd + s=ock options but I end up paying you in gold and yen Intuition says that financial stuff are less sensible to that sort of change=compared to computers but maybe not.. Anyway, JE of the stuff you mentioned is any of that done electronically and=do you have any pointers/links? Sent from my (phone > On Jun 16, 2016, at 09:32, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: > there are other more esoteric questions. trade date, setllement date? =recissions. ( especially interesting ) as if never happended? guarantees= value? intra co debt.? if you owe money to a wholly owned personal co.= is it still debt » On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Vincenzo lozzo < wrot=: » Ahh I get now why it's somewhat illegal today. there must be other » latenc=-type of things you can do today that follow the same pattern » and are legal= Bitcoin and the whole "prevent double-spending" thing » is a somewhat poor a=tempt at avoiding the "permanent" version of » what you're describing » But yeah that's very good thinking :) » Sent from my (phone >» On Jun 16, 2016, at 08:26, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: >» >» the quantum phenomenon of being at two or more places at the same time, =. :).. if i hand you a signed check at closing. query when does the t=ansaction close ? >» »» On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:06 AM, Vincenzo lozzo wr=te: »» Roger:) >>» »» Sent from my (phone >>» EFTA_R1_00105565 EFTA01784332 >>» >»» On Jun 16, 2016, at 07:05, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>» >»» face to face >>>» >>»» On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Vincenzo lozzo < w=ote: >>»» Hmm why is it illegal? >>>>» >>»» Sent from my (phone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>»» On Jun 16, 2016, at 07:01, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> >>>»» wrote:=>>>»» yes, but that was long ago ,and now somewhat >>>»» ilegal >>>>>» >>>>»» On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Vincenzo lozzo wrote: >>>>»» Btw, unrelated, I was told about the jumping between banks for >>>>»» inte=ests trick you pulled a while ago, that was smart. Hats >>>>»» off >>>>>>» >>>>»» Sent from my (phone >>>>>>» >>>>>>» >>>>>»» On Jun 16, 2016, at 06:24, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrot=: >>>>>>>» >>>>>»» yes, that makes sense, as long as milliseconds transalates to p=ofit, >>>>>>>» >>>>>>»» On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Vincenzo lozzo rote: >>>>>>»» Actually the better example is: "if we can shave of a couple o m=lliseconds when we execute the trade" >>>>>>>>» >>>>>>»» But yeah, it's a bit moot anyway >>>>>>>>» >>>>>>»» Sent from my (phone >>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>»» On Jun 16, 2016, at 06:05, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wr=te: >>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>» I dont know of any that woudl open their books. also most are p=obablistic , so an increase wouldnt be easily determinative >>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>»» On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:23 AM, Vincenzo lozzo rote: >>>>>>>>»» Btw do you know anybody well that does quantitative >>>>>>>>»» trading/hft= I have been thinking of trying a new type of >>>>>>>>»» consulting where the formula i= roughly >>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>»» "I audit your code, if I find anything that can be optimized I g=t 10% cut of the extra revenue you make thanks to the optimization" >>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>»» Technically it's not restricted to hedge funds (eg: this >>>>>>>>»» would w=rk equally well for Google and the likes) but the >>>>>>>>»» connection between optimi=ed code and increased revenue is >>>>>>>>»» probably clearer for hedge funds, plus the= have a lot of 2 EFTA_R1_00105566 EFTA01784333 >>>>>>>>»» customized code so higher chances that they messed up >>>>>>>>»» someth=ng >>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>»» Sent from my 1phone >>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>»» On Jun 15, 2016, at 18:22, jeffrey E. [email protected]> w=ote: >>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>»» fun, but the only important ones would be hillarys >>>>>>>>>»» secret >>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>»» On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Vincenzo lozzo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>»» https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/ >>>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>»» Sent from my 1phone >>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>>» >>>>>>>>>>>» -- >>>>>>>>>»» please note >>>>>>>>>»» The information contained in this communication is >>>>>>>>>»» confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may >>>>>>>>>»» constitute inside information, and is intended only for >>>>>>>>>»» the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE >>>>>>>>>»» Unauthorized use, disdosure or copying of this >»»>>»»» communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited >>>>>>>>>»» and may be unlawful. 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