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From: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
To: "Barry J. Cohen"
Subject: Re: [External] Re: hopefully helpful
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 14:49:47 +0000
barry, perfect example of what i have been trying to explain. without context the question makes little sense.
ex if all is income is ordinary. selling things at a loss does nothing . however if he is getting more capital
gains next year. you miight generate losses and carry them forward or back. if we think the tax rates will
change we might create fictiioous gains. and use the loss but have a higher basis for next year. if the loss in on
the trust side , it is a benefit to the future tax of the children. sorry to be so long winded but at least i am
consistant :)
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Barry J. Cohen < wrote:
One problem is that we want Leon to tell us what art he is interested in selling. I don't think he can do that. We
should tell him whether we want him to sell either his gains or his losses and why.
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On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:30 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]<[email protected]>> wrote:
there has been little if any proper planning for tax this year and next. this needs to be done after the program
and materials are put in form
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Barry J. Cohen < mailto
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I hear you. There is no blue print. I think our numbers are finally thorough and accurate. We haven't discussed
it much, but technology and security have been a huge focus for me since I joined Elysium. Making slow but
steady progress.
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On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:02 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]<[email protected]>cmailto:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
After fridays discussion
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/pic-archive/aircraft-ownershi /business- ustification-aircraft-
expenses
I suggest you focus on large issues first. . the discussions re personal use of plane . parties travel. may be
relevant at the tippy tip of the margins but these answers should flow from the structure. On what form
will you use the deduction. ? which business. , its structure. different buisnesses etc.
Barry , what you will find is that there is very few answers to be found on point as people in leons position
rarely make cases to tax court. exception being estate issues. . planes owned by farmers salesman,
bankers. are usually small planes. meaningless to leons issue. large biz gets are usually owned by
corporations. . the facts. there are approx 400,000 planes in the states. out of that large number only
about 13, 000 total private jets. out of that class only 2000 large jets and most owned by corporations.
how many people have business of leons size . not including his art work.
You asked , me what do we do now. as I told Brad years ago. First and foremost is accurate numbers
presented in an organized fashion. that is 80 percent of the grunt work. Once all the numbers are in shape ,
ie materials for the building of the financial architecture. . Leons goals must be addressed and programatic .
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this takes hours of discussion. . next . plans are drawn up, . modifications are made, issues of sec
regulation, tax, control, succession. mechanics. all need to be planned and adjusted to meet the goals.
You need to recognize that there are few , very few examples of the house that in leons case needs to be re
built. most people with leons wealth have a serious family office with a huge stock portfolio. , not art. and
of those , few hold dormant assets ie apollo.. Its been ten years since apollo went public. and the house
needs total renovation. upgrades in tech, security, and the family has changed all very similar to
architecting a house after the children have grown and left.
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