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*Main Topics: *Sarah Palin as McCain's Surprise V.P. Choice, Palin
Interviewed, Maverick or Gimmick?
Summary of Shift:
With the announcement of McCain's vice presidential nominee, a slew of
speculation has arisen as to Sarah Paulin's ability to chair the position of
commander in chief if McCain passes. The strongest arguments against her
remain her inexperience (2 years as governor and small-town mayor), her
limited relationship with McCain, as well as the current investigation due
to her firing a commissioner under questionable intentions. Barack Obama's
speech at the DNC has continued to be highlighted.
In other news, the Gulf Coast prepares for the worst as Gustav is predicted
to become a category 4 hurricane. The death toll continues to rise in India
amidst severe flooding during the monsoon season. The Kremlin announced
that it intends to absorb South Ossetia into 'one united Russian state'.
Highlights:
1. FNC: Pfotenhauer ignorant on McCain's and Palin's short relationship
2. CNN: Jack Cafferty frowns upon Palin's domestic and international
inexperience
3. FNC: Tucker Bounds dances around question on Paulin's foreign
relations experience
4. MSNBC: Senator Lindsey Graham on McCain's Choice of Sarah Palin
5. MSNBC: Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd Discuss Palin's Risk
6. MSNBC: Hardball discusses if Palin's Selection is Just a Gimmick
7. MSNBC: Countdown Investigates If Palin Will Be Able to Draw Clinton
Voters
8. MSNBC: Rachel Maddow Highlights Palin's Bridge to Nowhere Flip-Flop
9. MSNBC: Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz Blasts Palin as
Anti-Women Issues
10. MSNBC: Rep. Eric Cantor Supports Sarah Palin's Experience
11. MSNBC: Race to the White House Asks If Sarah Palin is the New Dan Quayle
12. CNBC: Sarah Palin Interview Discusses Energy and ANWR Drilling
Highlights, No YouTubes:
1. MSNBC: Mike Murphy gave the Bush presidency a "C" grade
2. MSNBC - DAN SCHNUR: "I think, like everybody else in the universe, I
am extremely surprised. Earlier this summer when McCain was running 10, 12,
15 points behind Obama a pick like this, a gamble like this would have made
more sense. Conventional wisdom suggested that in a race that's essentially
tied, he would have done something safer. But I think what it show's you
Andrea is how much John McCain values his reputation as a Maverick. He's
very steadily come back in the polls over the last couple of weeks, but it's
been by running a very conventional campaign. I think given the choice of
being a maverick and being president, John McCain would rather be president.
A pick like this, potentially at least, gives him the opportunity to do
both."
3. MSNBC - RACHEL MADDOW: On the temperament issue, I think that we'll
keep hearing it because I think that McCain keeps demonstrating it. I mean,
when he said "we are all Goergian's now", that may have sounded like big
tough rhetoric, but he's essentially saying, let's treat Georgia like it was
a member of NATO. Which means, let's treat Georgia as if it were Nebraska
that just got invaded by the Russians. Let's go bomb Moscow. To have that
sort of reaction, that sort of hair trigger reaction, on a very sensitive
on-going policy dispute, where our own government is taking a very different
attack, yeah, no matter who says that, I think temperament ought to be an
issue. He keeps bringing it up himself.
4. MSNBC - PHIL MUSTER: "Well, look, I think the bottom line on
experience here is she's had more experience as a chief executive as the
Governor of Alaska than Barack Obama has in the United States Senate. So
people grow into new jobs as they develop and take them. But her record as a
chief executive in Alaska has been great. She's reached out across the
board, just like John McCain has worked in a bi-partisan fashion in
Washington, she's worked in a bi-partisan fashion in Alaska. She hasn't been
afraid to challenge those within her own party who are wrong. Take for
example, the fact that she's been outspoken in supporting a primary
challenge to Don Young who sponsored the bridge to no where in our party.
She calls them like she sees them, and I think America might fall in love
with this woman who really brings a real common touch."
5. MSNBC - MICHAEL MOORE: […] I don't know if you showed the cake there,
that they had three years ago today with McCain and Bush. When Marie
Antoinette, when she said let them eat cake, I think she was speaking
figuratively, they literally were, while New Orleans was drowning, eating
cake.
6. MSNBC - KEITH OLBERMAN: But our winner [Worst Person in the World]
Senator John McCain. In the last twenty days, suicide bombers have killed at
least 78 people in Iraq. Wounded countless others. Yet the Senator told Time
Magazine, in an extraordinary and frightening interview, that as to Iraq,
"It's a peaceful and stable country now." The reporters asked the natural
follow-up, "It is? But you wouldn't say you've achieved victory now?" He
answered, "Yes, I would say that the surge is succeeding and we are
winning." So an average of four people a day dead in suicide bombings means
that a country is peaceful and stable. But a peaceful and stable country
does not mean victory has been achieved and we can get our men and women out
of there. One way or another, you are witnessing a man suffering from at
least from one actual delusion. To say nothing of an utter disrespect of the
meaning of the loss of life. It is not funny, it is shameful. John McCain,
today's worst person in the world.
Clips:
Highlight #1
*Pfotenhauer Doesn't Know the Extent or Length of McCain's and Paulin's
Relationship* (FNC 08/29/08 10:08am)
BILL HEMMER: […] Tell me about the relationship between McCain and Palin. How
much time have they spent together? How well do they know one another?
PFOTENHAUER: *You're running flat into the wall of my ignorance here, Bill.
I just, I truly, um, no indication whatsoever of the extent of a
relationship that exists with the governor of Alaska.* And you know there
are several other folks […] and they have been at the forefront of the scene
the last several months.
HEMMER: You know, Nancy, if I could just stop you there, maybe that answer
itself is *a bit revealing of the fact that they don't have much of a
relationship*. Is that a fair reading?
PFOTENHAUER: No, no, no. It's revealing of my ignorance. Not of their
relationship.
Highlight #2
*Jack Cafferty on Sarah Paulin's Inexperience with International and
Domestic Issues *(CNN 08/29/08 6:39pm)
GLORIA BORGER: […] I've been talking to some democrats who are now
expecting that Senator McCain will soon name his Secretary of State,
Secretary of Defense to try and relay questions about this sort of military
industrial complex in his administration, should anything happen to him.
[…]
STEVEN HAYES: […] It's legitimate to wonder whether she would have this
experience; but look at what she's done in Alaska. You can't just ignore
her record in Alaska. She up-ended the establishment. The republican party
establishment in Alaska taking on people in her own party, she's governed
effectively, she's cut taxes, she's done all of these things that won her an
80% approval rating. It is absolutely not crazy to pick her. […]
JACK CAFFERTY: The state of Alaska has the population of Austin, Texas. What
does she know about inner-city poverty? The war on drugs? What does she know
about the Middle East? You want to put her up against Putin, Achmajenidad? She
was the mayor of a town of 7,000 people in Alaska. […] Most of the
republicans I heard from, including a lot of women, how dare John McCain
presume because he names an inexperienced woman from Alaska, that he can
start collecting the 18 million votes that were cast for Hillary
Clinton? They're
on opposite sides of all the issues, people are outraged. This is a joke.
Highlight #3
*Bounds Deflects Question About Palin's Foreign Experience* (FNC 08/29/08
1:35pm)
TUCKER BOUNDS: […] It's an exciting pick for us. Both of these candidates
share a passion for change in government, they have records of reform, and
we can think of no better person to be joining us here at the campaign other
than governer Palin of Alaska. So many of the issues, she has expertise on.
We are important to American voters that are facing skyrocketing gas prices.
She's an expert on energy issues. She understands that we need to
transition to alternative fuels, renewable energies. But she also
understands the importance of drilling; making sure we have those short
shock measures to fight energy prices that are skyrocketing, pinching
families.
TRACE GALLAGHER: […] the democrats are already on the attack here. You
know they're going to go after her foreign credentials, and how do you
retaliate against that?
BOUNDS: […] for them to completely ignore that Governor Palin is a governor
and executive and reformer in the state of Alaska, and to belittle her, to
try and say that small-town Americans , a mayor wasn't befitting of a vice
presidential nominee. […] America's built on small towns. Small town
Americans may have taken offense. I know I certainly did.
GALLAGHER: […] How do you respond to the democrats when they attack her
foreign relations credentials?
BOUNDS: Well, Senator McCain is running for president of the United States,
and I don't think anyone would disagree that in this campaign, there is no
one with more experience, more understanding of the international stage,
foreign affairs than John McCain. That's why Americans are gonna support
him in the fall; is because he understands that we need to take the right
approach overseas […]
Highlight #4
*Senator Lindsey Graham on McCain's Choice of Sarah Palin* (MSNBC 08/29/08
4:33pm)
PETER ALEXANDER: First question, perhaps in the case of an unforeseen
tragedy, John McCain comes into office at the age of 72, would be the oldest
president to walk into the White House. If for any reason Sarah Palin were
to assume the presidency, are you comfortable with her leading this country?
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: Given her life story, yes, absolutely. When you look at
what she's accomplished in her life, from a personal point of view and a
professional point of view, I don't think there's anything that she can't
do. She is tough. She's reformed minded. She's taken a beating for her
principles. She's put her political future at risk more than one time
challenging her own party. She's a quite extraordinary lady and I would be
proud for her to be my president.
ALEXANDER: If you're comfortable with her life story, I think a lot of
democrats will hear you say that Senator and say, why then aren't the
republicans comfortable with Barack Obama's life store? If he lacks
experience but he does have a terrific life story, wouldn't that be
sufficient for him as a candidate?
GRAHAM: I'm not talking just about her life story; I'm talking about her
judgment. She has taking on corruption, she has made people mad at her they
you would want mad at you if you wanted to reform the government. She has
really done things in Alaska that are similar to what john McCain would like
to do in Washington. At the end of the day, I had a chance to see senator
Obama up close in the immigration debate. We had a comprehensive bipartisan
deal where republicans got some things and gave some things to democrats. I
saw what he did. We had a temporary worker program as part of the
comprehensive bipartisan agreement that republicans wanted, unions hated.
And at the end of the day he introduced an amendment to do away with that
part of the deal, which was basically killing the deal. So I'm not very
impressed with senator Obama, quite frankly, when it comes to doing hard
things and telling democrats something they don't want to hear. I'm very
impressed with governor Palin taking on her own people at times. That's what
John's looking for. Somebody that will come to Washington with him, that
will turn the place up side down. And Obama and Biden are not going to do
that.
ALEXANDER: Senator, have you ever met Governor Palin?
GRAHAM: No. Talked to her on the phone. Anybody that hunts moose at 3:00 in
the morning is high on my list.
ALEXANDER: Alright, then give us a better sense, perhaps, is this pick more
of an appeal, do you believe, to the republican base? She's a strong social
conservative. Or do you think it plays to independents and disgruntled
Hillary Clinton supporters? Who will this sway?
GRAHAM: Good question. What I think it's going to do is reinforce what
senator McCain would like to do in Washington. You know, when you look at
his legislative career he's always pushed the status quo, much to his
detriment sometimes. And you've got a governor, a young governor in Governor
Palin, who's done exactly the same thing in Alaska. So I think that's the
narrative that will resonate in both groups. People are frustrated, the
Congress is at 12 percent. People are dying for something new and different,
and controlling spending, reforming the way business is done. From the women
perspective, I think a lot of young women in this country are going to be
inspired by Governor Palin. And Republicans will be inspired by her. She's a
solid conservative, but more than anything else, she's taken the status quo
and corruption head on. And that's exactly what we need to do in Washington.
So I think it's a two-for. I think it helps us with our base, and I think it
will help us with independent voters who are looking for somebody, not to
talk about change, but who has actually done something to make things
change.
Highlight #5
*Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd Discuss Palin's Risk* (MSNBC 08/29/08
5:05pm)
ANDREA MITCHELL: […] Now it is a high risk, high payoff kind of nomination,
because she's got no real national experience. […] She could help with
Hillary Clinton voters in the suburbs of some of the big cities, in
battleground states, I mean this could be a game changer. That said, the
fact that John McCain only met her once, when we get this tick doc just now
that, from the McCain, they didn't even know each other. This was not a
carefully vetted, personal decision. This was a very calculated, strategic
decision to try to change the whole game.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: […] Is this niche marketing here? In other words, you're
taking a person who doesn't really conform to the profile, the voters you're
trying to win over, the women voter, the working women, the very committed
woman. This candidate for vice president, now apparently has no real
interest in the Iraq war. She said she hasn't given it much thought, which
certainly separates her from a lot of democratic women who are vastly
against the war. She would outlaw abortion in every circumstance, including
cases where a woman had been raped or there was incest involved. Certainly a
radical view at odds to, it seems to me, in my experiences with those
suburban women that Andrea just mentioned.
CHUCK TODD: Well, look, I see this pick as a decision by the McCain campaign
to basically say, well, look we can not win on experience alone. Every time
there's an election, a change election, and it's change versus experience,
change wins and I think they came to that conclusion. Look, I had been told
a couple of weeks ago that you can tell what McCain thinks about his chances
by the type of running mate he names. […] They've abandoned experience and
that's ok, because McCain had not been able to recapture his maverick,
change image. This is giving him an opportunity to re-launch. Look, he may
not win over a lot of new supporters over the next couple of days. But it's
making them take a second look and that's what he needed. He needed a second
look, he needed a fresh look. Look the campaign staff is fired up, they're
enthusiastic. […] For McCain it's about playing with the news cycle and
surprising, do these nice surgical strikes when it comes to the media. Look,
it may be a disaster at the end of the day. But McCain thought they had a
ceiling going on in the trajectory that they were headed.
Highlight #6
*Hardball discusses if Palin's Selection is Just a Gimmick* (MSNBC 08/29/08
5:15pm)
CHRIS MATTHEWS: We have a Vice President who's committed almost viscerally
to the war in Iraq. Here's a candidate to replace him in a Republican Party
who said this, […] "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't
really focused much on the war in Iraq." I mean here she is running to
replace a guy with 60 staff people involved with foreign policy and Intel
collection in a very hawkish setting. How can she be a credible successor?
[…]
ANDREA MITCHELL: […] Foreign policy is not why she was chosen. You could
argue, politically, tactically, you don't want to replace Dick Cheney with
another Dick Cheney. That's not what the Republicans want right now. You've
got John McCain, John McCain's your foreign policy guru. Look, there are a
couple of pluses and minuses here. She's got five children, […] she will
appeal to the soccer moms and the hockey moms, as she describes herself.
She's got a lot of color. People are going to talk, people who don't know
Alaska who don't know that part of the world, […] she eats moose burgers.
This is exciting to a lot of people. Everyone up there eats moose burgers.
That's the meal, that's the food, that's the meat that you get, that you
shoot. That you bring home. […] She is also a bit of a libertarian. She's
not completely consistent on those social conservative issues. I got a Log
Cabin email from the Log Cabin Republicans saying her first veto was to
protect gay rights for partners. So we need to dig a little deeper into
this. […] But the biggest thing is she has no personal relationship with
the man that she's running with.
CHUCK TODD: The biggest downside, Chris, is that this could look like a
gimmick. Cause John McCain only met her twice. Doesn't know her. This goes
against everything we think we know about John McCain. He likes to surround
himself with people that he's comfortable with, that are loyal to him, and
all of a sudden this is a political calculation, and it's gimmicky. And the
gimmick could wear out. […]
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let's talk about age. John McCain has just turned 72. John
McCain will be 77 in his first term as President. A lot of concern he
wouldn't really be running for two terms, which is unique. He'd really be
running for one. And there for his running mate would really be running like
his successor to be. And you have to wonder whether this is credible. Is
John McCain replaceable, effectively by the Governor of Alaska, could
something happen in the first term? Is this something that he can honestly
say to the American people, that this person after a year in office in Juno,
with no foreign policy interest? Not just experience, no interest
apparently. Can this person be commander in chief if something happens?
MITCHELL: That is going to be the biggest question. […]
Highlight #7
*Countdown Investigates If Palin Will Be Able to Draw Clinton Voters* (MSNBC
08/29/08 8:31pm)
KEITH OLBERMAN: The Republicans have chosen the least experienced vice
presidential candidate, probably in American history. A rabid conservative,
seemingly a vague alternative to Hillary Clinton, except that last March the
Governor claimed that Senator Clinton was "whining" about the primaries.
KEITH OLBERMAN: This wasn't really a bid for Hillary supporters was it? I
mean A: If you're trying to poach Clinton women, you would announce this
before the democratic heal-a-thon, not the day after it ends. And B: at your
own magazine's women in leadership event, […] she felt kind of bad she
couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's "whining". So the
Hillary alternative just called Hillary and the PUMA's whiners?
HOWARD FINEMAN: Well Keith, there are a lot of pro-drilling and anti-polar
bear and anti-abortion women among those 18 million Hillary supporters, I'm
sure. I'm being factious, I don't think there's that many left. And I don't
think this really is about that. I think in big picture terms, it was about
John McCain seeking to change things up to try to re-establish his Maverick
credentials. Because, despite her lack of experience, Sarah Palin is sort of
a brave political person, having taken on her own political party the way
John McCain used to do. He wanted to underscore the desire for change, and
the fact that he gets it. And he wanted to, frankly, shake things up and not
make it so boring. […]
[…]
OLBERMAN: The experience argument. This had been viewed widely, as maybe
Senator McCain's best weapon against Obama. He just turned this in. Why give
this up for her?
FINEMAN: Well for the reasons I said. Because he hadn't established himself
with the grassroots of the Republican Party. Because he wanted to be an
agent of change. Because he wanted to restore his maverick credentials. I
mean, that's what the McCain people were telling me all day today, the
Maverick just picked a maverick. But yes, he's done it at great cost,
because the whole Republican Convention, I was told, […] the slogan was
going to be, he's not ready to lead, meaning Barack Obama. Well Sarah Palin
makes Barack Obama look like John Adams. I mean it's no contest. […]
Highlight #8
*Rachel Maddow Highlights Palin's Bridge to Nowhere Flip-Flop* (MSNBC
08/29/08 8:40pm)
KEITH OLBERMAN: She said no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006 one
of her spokesman, I guess in Alaska her spokesman, told the Associated Press
that she had supported the Bridge. So she just jumps into this national
spotlight complete with the Bridge to Nowhere attached to her? Is she the
bridge to nowhere?
RACHEL MADDOW: Yeah, this is very awkward, because she is out there, in her,
you know, I'm the new running mate speech, her debut on the national stage
bringing up that bridge to nowhere issue. I went and looked it up in the
Anchorage Daily News from 2006, she was asked point-blank about funding for
that bridge, and she said yes, I would like to Alaska's infrastructure
projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now while our
congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist. So as recently
as two years ago, she was not only in favor of the Bridge to Nowhere, which
she's now saying that she wasn't, but she was also in favor of it on the
basis of the fact that Alaska's congressional delegation was in a position
that they could do it through earmarks. This is an embarrassing position to
have taken. Not only because of the flip-flop, but they're trying to market
her as a fiscal conservative who stood up to Alaska's, sort of famously
corrupt Republican politicians.
Highlight #9
*Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz Blasts Palin as Anti-Women
Issues*(MSNBC 08/29/08 6:16pm)
DAVID GREGORY: This statement from Hillary Clinton, could this not be
interpreted as a message to her own supporters that perhaps this new
Republican ticket ought to warrant a new look?
REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: No, I don't think that's the message that
Hillary Clinton was speaking at all. On the contrary, she made it clear that
John McCain and Sarah Palin are wrong on all the issues that matter to
women. This is a pick that demonstrates colossally bad judgment on the part
of John McCain. You know, we're talking about someone who has less than
18months experience as Governor of a state that has fewer people than my own
Congressional district. Someone who was the mayor of a town of 8,000 people.
Someone who would have to have their hand on the pillar of our foreign
policy, and combat the war on terror, with that colossal lack of experience
is frightening. And it demonstrates that John McCain, just like Barack Obama
said last night in his acceptance speech, just doesn't get it.
[…]
SCHULTZ: John McCain has failed both tests, experience and judgment. He's
chosen someone who totally lacks the experience that we need in a potential
President of the United States, and he's demonstrated an unbelievable lack
of judgment in choosing her. What he's done here is he's tried to appeal to
the women of this country, by choosing someone who simply has the same parts
that we do. And what matters to women is not having someone that's the same
gender as we are, but we need to make sure that we have someone in office
that cares the same issues that we do. Sarah Palin is wrong on a women's
right to choose, wrong on equal pay for equal work, wrong on expanding
access to children's healthcare. It's insulting, I have to tell you.
[…]
SCHULTZ: […] I'm sure she manages her household with five children very
well, but she is not ready to manage this country.
Highlight #10
*Rep. Eric Cantor Supports Sarah Palin's Experience* (MSNBC 08/29/08 6:18pm)
DAVID GREGORY: Is there the potential […] that John McCain would actually
experience a backlash from the very women he's trying to court here, Hillary
Clinton supporters and other women around the country? Does this look like
pandering?
REP. ERIC CANTOR: […] Sarah Palin represents what so many women in this
country are about, trying to balance work and raising a family, and all the
double income families out there in America, we all feel the strains. And
the women often bare the brunt of that. So what we have in Sarah Palin is in
individual that has a wealth of experience, not only raising five children,
becoming a mayor, and then a governor, but also one of experience. I mean, I
find it really unbelievable that the Barack Obama folks are starting to
criticize Sarah Palin over lack of experience. She has as much experience as
Barack Obama, and even more. She was chief executive of a state, Barack
Obama has had no executive experience whatsoever.
GREGORY: He's 72 years old, he's actively talked [..] about him just
pursuing one term as president. […] Now he's got someone who's 44 years old,
only been Governor since 2006, will Americans look to her and think, yeah
she can do the job if anything happens to him.
CANTOR: I think Americans will pull the level when they go into the ballot
booth in November, they'll put it based on Barack Obama versus John McCain.
Highlight #11
*Race to the White House Asks If Sarah Palin is the New Dan Quayle* (MSNBC
08/29/08 6:46pm)
RACHEL MADDOW: This feels a little Dan Quayle like to me. I mean, I guess it
would be Daniel Quayle. Have they ever been seen together before? Are there
any pictures of them together? Is there any evidence that they've ever
spoken? In an interview today, Sarah Palin did not know what John McCain's
plan is on Iraq. I mean, the reason that Dan Quayle was a bad choice is that
it was a transparent electoral choice. I think this guy will make me look
younger, I think this guy will make me look more like the future. And there
was not even lip service paid, either with Dan Quayle or with Sarah Palin.
To the idea that these two politicians want to govern together, that they
even know each other, or that the McCain campaign really thinks she can be
the best president, out of everybody else in the country, other than John
McCain. It just doesn't feel right, it doesn't smell right, it seems a
little insulting.
DAVID GREGORY: Is this stage craft first?
JOHN HARWOOD: Yes. […] He has a much narrower margin for error than other
recent Republican nominees. He's got to have everything go right. And if
people look at her and say, hey this was a real reach that was made for
political reasons to try to appeal to those Hillary supporters, that's going
to hurt him. […]
Highlight #12
*Sarah Palin Interview Discusses Energy and ANWR Drilling* (CNBC 08/29/08)
SARAH PALIN: Economically speaking though, it's about 20 percent of the U.S.
domestic supply of energy is produced up on the north slope up in Prudo. So
it's very, very significant economically, physically, it's a tiny little
foot.
MARIA BARTIROMO: So you're saying it's a tiny little footprint, actually the
operations in Prudo Bay, but people think of it as so expansive and so
massive that it's going to have a material effect if in fact we were going
to see drilling there, on the wildlife and on the community.
PALIN: Well, ANWR, that point, it's about 2,000 acres that is being asked to
be looked at and then to be explored and then to be produced. 2,000 acres
out of 20,000,000 acres. That footprint, it's about the size of LAX, or one
of the larger airports across the nation. That should allow some perspective
there also. No one, I think, but Alaskans, care more about our wildlife,
about our clean water, our clean air, the pristine environment that we are
blessed to live in and get to breath in every single day. No one but
Alaskans will care more to make sure that we are preserving that pristine
environment that is ANWR, the coastal plane, Prudo Bay, Alaska as a whole.
And when you ask Alaskan's, are you ready to allow drilling to take place to
a greater degree up on the north slopes, specifically here we're talking
about ANWR, do you want to see that happen? And with Alaskan's love and care
for our environment and our lands and our wildlife, Alaskan's are saying,
yes, because we believe that it can be done safely. It can be done
prudently. And it had better be done ethically, also. Yes, we'd want to see
that drilling. So hopefully the rest of American can understand that also.
You go door to door and you ask Alaskans if we are ready, willing, and able
to produce more and contribute more to the U.S., and they're going to tell
you, yes.
BARTIROMO: President Bush tried this a number of times under his watch. Why
is it that we have been unable to actually get this done?
PALIN: I think there's a lot of misperceptions and misconceptions about what
ANWR is all about and what, up in the north slope, what the environment
actually is up there. You see pictures, you see visuals from the nay-sayers,
the critics of the idea of opening up ANWR and the pictures that they're
showing are mountains, and polar bears, lots of different wildlife. They'll
show moose in a stream with mountains in the background, that's not ANWR.
And as your people go up there also and actually get to see for themselves,
and we've had a lot of Congressman and Congresswomen come up here this
summer even to see for themselves, what actually is ANWR. What would be
touched here in terms of lands and wildlife. Then they see that those
visuals that have been shown to America for all these years are inaccurate.
Those are not the pictures of ANWR, there aren't mountains up there for
instance. So I think that there's a lot of misperception out there for what
the plane actually looks like. And the visuals are very important to
Americans, I do think though that Americans are recognizing more and more,
it's evidence in the pressure that they're putting on Congress at this
point, the constituents putting on Congress, more and more Americans are
recognizing it is time to ramp up America's supply of energy. Especially,
we're a nation at war, a lot of the issues that are so adversely effecting
America are based on energy supplies as we're relying on foreign sources of
energy to feed our hungry market. More and more Americans are recognizing,
our sister state, up in the Alaska, has these supplies. We have trillions of
cubic feet of clean, natural gas. We have billions of barrels of oil still
sitting underground, in a sense, being warehoused. It's time to unlock these
reserves and allow competitors to come in and compete for the right to tap
those resources and start flowing that energy into the domestic markets that
so hungry, so that we can become less reliant on foreign sources of energy.
As more Americans recognize that, more Americans, I believe, are choosing
to educate themselves on what ANWR is really all about.
BARTIROMO: For Sure. And this year there was a price. And once there was a
price actually reached, it was, people got it.
PALIN: I believe so too.
BARTIROMO: Let me get your thoughts, on really the consequences. What then
are the major consequences of drilling in ANWR? I was reading a piece
earlier that said, look, it will impact the breeding of caribou, the
breeding of polar bears. Give me your sense, what are the consequences?
PALIN: Well, let's look at lessons learned over the last 30 years from the
Trans-Atlantic Oil Pipeline was finally allowed to be built. And there were
the threats then and the fears that the caribou herds would diminish and die
off. No, the caribou herds are actually thriving, they're flourishing. There
has not been the adverse impact on the caribou herds. So we anticipate the
same thing as we tap more energy supplies up on the North Slope in ANWR, and
as we build a Natural Gas Pipeline also that's underway at this point. When
you consider the naysayers, kind of the fear mongerers, 30 years ago before
the Trans America Pipeline was built, and remember, that pipeline has
supplied 50 billion barrels of oil into our domestic supplies here in
America. By the way, Joe Biden was one who voted against that Trans Atlantic
Pipeline 30 years ago. He was fearful of allowing ramped up domestic
supplies of energy, even then. So of course, I fear, if he's of the same
mind today we're in a world of hurt there. But no, the environment will
continue to be protected. Our wildlife will continue to thrive and prosper
up there. And we're going to make sure that we have the stringent and safe
oversight that is necessary and will allow the population of this wildlife
and the pristineness of the area to continue.
BARTIROMO: Ok, let's talk about jobs and sort of the impact of drilling and
of operations there. How significant?
PALIN: Here in Alaska, oil production is so significant. 85 to 90 percent of
our entire state budget is based on that barrel of oil and the price that it
drives. And our state revenue, is again, so reliant on the price of a barrel
of oil. For such a great part also Alaskan jobs are contingent on very
aggressive production of oil and natural gas up here in Alaska.
BARTIROMO: On probably of all the 48 states, it's a ripple effect
PALIN: Absolutely, and also the ripple effect, is our belief too that as
more domestic supplies of energy from Alaska flow into the hungry markets,
naturally, we believe the price of energy will diminish also. It will
decrease and that will be good for the economy as a whole. But very, very
important to the US economy, specifically here in Alaska. My goodness, it is
what drives our economy.
BARTIROMO: So how important are the oil and gas industries, businesses to
Alaskans?
PALIN: Very, very important. Conical Phillips, Exxon, BP, you know we bump
heads quite a bit when it comes to the sovereignty of our state. Alaska is
set up unlike any other state in the nation, where our statehood compact
act, and our state constitution lays out for us who owns the resources. And
unlike other states, it's Alaskans who live here who own the resources
underground. So as they're tapped, as they're produced Alaskans share in the
wealth that's derived from the production of these resources. So the oil
industries there are our partners here, they have the leases, the rights to
develop the resources. But Alaskans own the resources. So that obviously
creates some tension with who owns what and who can control what. But our
position of strength in my administration, we know is our state
consititution that again lays out for us who actually owns the resources.
That's the Alaskan residents and I will do all I can to protect the Alaskan
residents as we develop, but at the same time we recognize that the big oil
industry that is here they do have the rights and have had the rights for
many years now to develop these resources for us and with us.
BARTIROMO: How will you do that? How will you protect Alaskans homes, there
environment?
PALIN: We need to drill, drill, drill though. Otherwise I can not believe
that a domestic solution is any part of a national energy policy. If
they're not going to let Alaskans drill on our own lands, and on Federal
lands within our own state. And a domestic solution isn't part of a national
energy plan, then our nation is in a world of hurt. We're going to continue
to be reliant on foreign, dangerous regimes, to feed our hungry markets. I
find it ironic, and I find it non-sensical that here, we send Secretary
Bodman we even send our own President overseas to negotiate with the Saudi's
to ask the Saudi's ramp up oil production. For us in America, where again,
absolute nonsense because Alaska has those resources already. And we should
be tapping these American supplies before we go over to the Saudi's and ask
them to do so. So very significant where what is going on and I think our
nation is at a cross roads also. We better be making decisions to allow this
American supply of energy to be tapped, or we are going to become more and
more beholden to these foreign regimes. And again, our nation is going to be
in a word of hurt. When you talk about national security, when you talk
about ever reaching potential towards energy independence. If we can not
implement a domestic solution for this national energy policy, and we have
lacked a national energy policy also. We have not had a plan. Alaska
should be a leader in this plan because we have the conventional, the
non-renewable supplies, the petroleum. We have them up here. […]
We also have the renewables also. We have the largest tides on the
continent. We have the geothermal. We have the winds. We have all these
alternative renewable resources that also can be tapped into as we work
collectively and comprehensively on an energy plan.
BARTIROMO: So as a nation we need to be doing everything?
PALIN: We need to be doing everything, and people need to be realistic,
also. This is what scares me about Biden and Obama also is it seems to be
almost a naïve notion of their that we can just automatically jump right
into a renewable supply of energy to feed hungry markets across our nation,
when these renewables are not yet proven to be economic or reliable. We're
going to be in a transition period for quite some time where we're going to
have to continue to be reliant on conventional sources of energy as we're
working on the renewables. And we certainly have to head in that direction
also, but it's got to be doin' everything, everything that we can to allow
the domestic supplies; renewable and unrenewable, to be tapped; solutions
plugged in both those ends, and not just skip the oil and gas developments
that- and the coal development also that we have to have as part of a
comprehensive plan. It's naïve to think we can go right to renewables, and
think that's ever going to work for our nation, today. At this time.
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