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To: trive
From: Jefirelligr
Sent Sun 91112013 3:18:31 PM
Subject Re: thanks, background and meeting ??
can visit Jamaica in nov
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM, wrote:
> how can i help
Jeffrey
Many thanks for this offer of help; meanwhile 1 hope to see you in NYC on
a day, place and time of your choosing. I return to work on Monday
September 9 and that Thursday the 12th I have an important eye-appointment
re a scratched cornea off of my retinal operation (fortunately the latter
is coming along nicely). Otherwise ANY day (except Monday lunch) is good.
Meanwhile, I have almost finalized the work-plan: about 4 scientists will
measure knee, ankle and foot asymmetry, the first two variables with
calipers (twice each) and foot length automatically from a machine. We
will Xerox hands, mostly for 2nd:4th digit ratios (see below) but also as
partial controls for the foot measurements (Xeroxing introduces small and,
alas, non-random biases but the alternative of calipers is far too
time-consuming.) Height, weight, age, performance at different times and
over different distances, measured to 0.01 seconds, will all be provided
by the two local athletic associations.
Key according to the head of one (Bruce James) is to minimize each
athlete's time-20 minutes max being measured and hopefully next to no wait
time. If so, we could do 100 (70 males, as it turns out and 30 females) in
3 to 4 days and do a (smaller) control sample of non-runners in a day or
two.
Bruce tells me the elite runners will do so because he tells them to,
while the non-elite will do it for the money (presently $200/head). Usain
and Shelley Ann arc unlikely mostly because they are apt to be off the
island but he says, were they here, they just might be curious (and
motivated) to have their knees measured too.
If you have never been to Jamaica before, this might be a nice time. Work
will take place at U Tech and U of West Indies, the two major campuses in
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Kingston very close to each other. Of course I can find us some nice
hotels and while long-legged Bulgarian beauties and top European
scientists are never out of style, Jamaica is also famous, if not for its
scientists, at least for its beauties! (And as your host, I am licensed to
carry—as we say in Florida!).
I am attaching a second paper supported by your grant (in press in Human
Biology as a letter, due out in October). It is not nearly as important as
the symmetry paper, but is actually the reason we ran the races in the
first place, previous work having shown that the smaller your second digit
compared to your fourth (in both sexes) the greater your endurance in
races. We could only use a very weak measure (speed in 200m divided by
speed in 100m) because it was impractical on my property to run longer
races. In other words we subtracted raw speed (100) from raw speed plus
endurance (200). We did indeed find the expected correlation.
But now we have an unusual additional opportunity in the elite
sprinters—they run 100, 200, 400 and hurdles in all of the same, so we can
easily rank races in terms of endurance vs raw speed and test both 2nd:4th
and knee/ankle FA over increasing levels of endurance vs raw speed. So far
our FA data says that symmetry is more important the shorter the race
while endurance is apparently associated with longer races.
I return to Jersey on the 8th of September. I am hoping to see you soon
thereafter.
With warmest best wishes,
Bob
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