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Hello All,
Unfortunately, our tracker was turned away at the door from today's town
hall meeting. It was a ticketed event. But here's the good news: We
captured the event streaming online. Below are our notes.
*BIG HIGHLIGHTS:*
- References "Czechoslovakia" again
- Says Obama's comments about Iraq today "flip-floppers all over the
world are enraged. It gives new meaning."
- Says Obama has it backwards to discuss his plans about Iraq and
Afghanistan *before* stepping foot there on his fact-finding mission
- Says situation "our enemies are on the offensive" in Aghanistan,
situation has deteriorated
- Calls for more unified and centralized strategy in Afghanistan
- Promises the installation of a czar to oversee the War in Afghanistan
specifically, following the footsteps of Bush's war czar
- Says we should apply the lessons and strategies of Iraq to Afghanistan,
e.g. the counter-insurgency strategy, benchmarks with the government
- Calls for a doubling of troops in Afghanistan, paid for by an
international trust fund
- Claims he made 'the right call in Iraq a year and a half ago'
- Other big topics: farm bill, GI bill, drug trade SCOTUS, immigration
*Albuquerque, NM - McCain Town Hall Meeting 07/15/08*
(Disclaimer: The following are notes, not direct quotes. If you'd like a
quotable transcript or video of any part below, please email us.)
*BACKGROUND DETAILS*
- Manuel Luhan gives introductory remarks.
- Cong. Pearce also in the audience, made remarks mid-event (McCain
is eliable straight-shooter who could unite the US, etc)
- Event was ticketed. Aide instructed volunteers and staff on how to turn
away guests without tickets ('Tell them we will notify them first next time
McCain is in town. Everyone leaves happy.')
- Before prepared remarks, McCain begins by talking about the need to
take on Native American issues
- Thank-yous
- Americans are hurting, but it's so important to have these kind of town
hall meetings
NM will be important
I understand the issues, the challenges. But these Town hall meetings are
where I learn most, more than the briefing papers, etc.
*FULL Transcript*
LINK TO FULL REMARKS:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/strategy_for_victory_in_afghan.html
July 15, 2008
Strategy for Victory in Afghanistan
John McCain
I'm here today to discuss with you several issues that worry you and most
Americans, our slumping economy, job loss, rising gas and food prices, and
what we need to do to get our economy growing again, create jobs and reduce
our dangerous dependence on foreign oil. But there is another urgent issue I
want to address before I take your questions, which I know concerns you
because brave Americans are risking their lives right now to deal with it.
Over the last year, Senator Obama and I were part of a great debate about
the war in Iraq. Both of us agreed the Bush administration had pursued a
failed [policy] there and that we had to change course. Where Senator Obama
and I disagreed, fundamentally, was what course we should take. I called for
a comprehensive new strategy -- a surge of troops and counterinsurgency to
win the war. Senator Obama disagreed. He opposed the surge, predicted it
would increase sectarian violence, and called for our troops to retreat as
quickly as possible.
Today we know Senator Obama was wrong. The surge has succeeded. And because
of its success, the next President will inherit a situation in Iraq in which
America's enemies are on the run, and our soldiers are beginning to come
home. *Senator Obama is departing soon on a trip abroad that will include a
fact-finding mission to Iraq and Afghanistan. And I note that he is speaking
today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left,
before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in
Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time. In my
experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around:
first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy.*
*Although the situation in Iraq is much improved, another test awaits
whoever wins this election: the war in Afghanistan. The status quo is not
acceptable. Security in Afghanistan has deteriorated, and our enemies are on
the offensive.* From the moment the next President walks into the Oval
Office, he will face critical decisions about Afghanistan.
Senator Obama will tell you we can't win in Afghanistan without losing in
Iraq. In fact, he has it exactly backwards. It is precisely the success of
the surge in Iraq that shows us the way to succeed in Afghanistan.* It is by
applying the tried and true principles of counter-insurgency used in the
surge -- which Senator Obama opposed -- that we will win in Afghanistan. *With
the right strategy and the right forces, we can succeed in both Iraq and
Afghanistan.* I know how to win wars. And if I'm elected President, I will
turn around the war in Afghanistan, just as we have turned around the war in
Iraq, with a comprehensive strategy for victory.*
That strategy will have several components. Our commanders on the ground in
Afghanistan say that they need at least three additional brigades. Thanks to
the success of the surge, these forces are becoming available, and our
commanders in Afghanistan must get them. But sending more forces, by itself,
is not enough to prevail. In the 18 months that Senator Obama has been
campaigning for the presidency, the number of NATO forces in Afghanistan has
already almost doubled -- from 33,000 in January 2007 to about 53,000 today.
Yet security has still deteriorated. What we need in Afghanistan is exactly
what Gen. Petraeus brought to Iraq: a nationwide civil-military campaign
plan that is focused on providing security for the population. Today no such
integrated plan exists. When I am commander-in-chief, it will.
There are, of course, many differences between Afghanistan and Iraq, which
any plan must account for. But, as in Iraq, the center of gravity is the
security of the population. The good news is that our soldiers have begun to
apply the lessons of Iraq to Afghanistan -- especially in eastern
Afghanistan, where U.S. forces are concentrated. These efforts, however, are
too piecemeal; the work of innovative local commanders, rather than a
strategy for the entire country. In particular, the U.S. needs to reengage
deeper in southern Afghanistan, the Taliban heartland.
One of the reasons there is no comprehensive campaign plan for Afghanistan
is because we have violated one of the cardinal rules of any military
operation: unity of command. Today there are no less than three different
American military combatant commands operating in Afghanistan, as well as
NATO, some of whose members have national restrictions on where their troops
can go and what they can do. This is no way to run a war. The top commander
in Afghanistan needs to be just that: the supreme commander of all coalition
forces. As commander-in-chief, I will work with our allies to ensure unity
of command.
A successful counterinsurgency requires more than military force. It
requires all instruments of our national power, and that military and
civilian leaders work together, at all levels, under a joint plan. Too often
in Afghanistan this is not happening. And we need to build the same kind of
civil-military partnership that Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker have forged
in Iraq, supported by the best talent in the U.S. government and the
resources necessary to prevail. Unity of command is also a principle I will
bring to Washington. Too often, even as American soldiers and diplomats
cooperate in the field, their superiors back home have been squabbling. *Last
year, the Bush administration appointed a war czar, responsible for both
Iraq and Afghanistan. This was a step in the right direction. But
Afghanistan is sufficiently important that a separate Afghanistan Czar is
needed. I will appoint a highly-respected national security lea der*, based
in the White House and reporting directly to the President, whose sole
mission will be to ensure we bring the war in Afghanistan to a successful
end.
Everyone knows the United States increased the number of its soldiers in
Iraq last year. What's less well known is that the Iraqis surged with us,
adding over 100,000 security forces to their ranks. It's time for the
Afghans to do the same. The Afghan army is already a great success story: a
multiethnic, battle-tested fighting force. The problem is, it's too small,
with a projected strength of only 80,000 troops. For years, the Afghans have
been telling us they need a bigger army, and they are right. We need to at
least double the size of the Afghan army to 160,000 troops. The costs of
this increase, however, should not be borne by American taxpayers alone.
Insecurity in Afghanistan is the world's problem, and the world should share
the costs. We must work with our allies to establish an international trust
fund to provide long-term financing for the Afghan army.
We also need to increase our non-military assistance to the Afghan
government, with a multi-front plan for strengthening its institutions, the
rule of law, and the economy in order to provide a sustainable alternative
to the drug trade. Getting control of narcotics trafficking is central to
our efforts in Afghanistan. Alternative crops must be able to get to market
and traffickers must be arrested and prosecuted by enhanced Special Courts.
We should agree on specific governance and development benchmarks with the
Afghan government, then work with them closely to ensure they are met.
Just as we have worked over the past 18 months to stabilize Iraq by bringing
together its neighbors, this kind of diplomacy is just as important for
Afghanistan. The violence there has many causes, but chief among them is the
fact that Afghanistan is treated by some regional powers a chessboard on
which to pursue their own ambitions. I will appoint a special presidential
envoy to address disputes between Afghanistan and its neighbors. Our goal
must be to turn Afghanistan from a theater for regional rivalries into a
commons for regional cooperation.
A special focus of our regional strategy must be Pakistan, where terrorists
today enjoy sanctuary. This must end. We must strengthen local tribes in the
border areas who are willing to fight the foreign terrorists there -- the
strategy used successfully in Anbar and elsewhere in Iraq. We must convince
Pakistanis that this is their war as much as it is ours. And we must empower
the new civilian government of Pakistan to defeat radicalism with greater
support for development, health, and education. Senator Obama has spoken in
public about taking unilateral military action in Pakistan. In trying to
sound tough, he has made it harder for the people whose support we most need
to provide it. I will not bluster, and I will not make idle threats. But
understand this: when I am commander -in-chief, there will be nowhere the
terrorists can run, and nowhere they can hide.
In wartime, judgment and experience matter. In a time of war, the
commander-in-chief doesn't get a learning curve. If I have that privilege, I
will bring to the job many years of military and political experience;
*experience
that gave me the judgment necessary to make the right call in Iraq a year
and half ago.* I supported the surge because I believed it was our only
realistic chance to reverse the disaster our previous strategy had caused,
and the right thing to do for our country. And although events have proven
me right, my position wasn't popular at the time, and I risked my own
political ambitions when I took it. When I tell you, I will put our
country's interests -- your interests -- before party; before any special
interest; before my own interests, every hour of every day I'm in office,
you can believe me. Because for my entire adult life, in war and peace,
nothing has ever been more important to me than the se curity and well-being
of the country I love. Thank you.
*Question & Answer*
- jokes "we have some work-release people here with the microphone" so be
patient
- 1Q)What would be wrong with telling Americans to buy gas from people
who help us (e.g. American-owned) and not from those who hurt us (e.g.
Citgo, Chavez)?
- MCCAIN: I think you're right. The American people are starting to
understand that this transfer of $700B / year of your money is a security
issues, enviro issue, economic issue. There's compelling
evidence that some
of that money goes to people who hurt us. We can do this through
wind, tide,
solar, hydrogen, hybrid, flex fuels. A few areas: (1) if the
states want to,
we should be offshore drilling right now. Obama opposes it. BTW,
Crist says
it's a good idea. In Cali, governor thinks it's a bad idea. Off
louisiana,
they've had 2 hurricanes without any real problems. (2) tax dollars for
pure research and development--that's how we got the Internet. (3) Let's
give lower-class Americans a little break--gas tax holiday. (4) Nuclear
power. 80% of French energy is from nuclear, they are reducing greenhouse
gases. It's safe. We should both re-process and stores it. Obama opposes
doing either. We've sailed navy ships for 60 years with nuclear plants on
them--they're safe. (5) Lexington Project. we need to embark on
a national
mission. when JFK called to go to the moon, we got there sooner
than anyone
expected. We can do it soon. "and then we can tell these countries we're
importing from to take a hike."
- 2Q) How would you address the impact of Iran on Israel?
- MCCAIN: All americans are concerned with growing threat.
Ahmedijenad, "the quote 'President' of Iran." In recent days, they have
tested missiles. It's a very serious situation. I believe we are seeing a
positive response from our European friends. I have called for a
LEague of
Democracies. Russia and China, especially Russia has and will veto. *
Czechoslovakia*. At the end of the day, America can never allow a
second Holocaust
- 3Q) Do you support the total repeal of the estate tax, which is unfair
to farmers? What about the farmer subsidies
- MCCAIN: The estate tax is onerous and i think "death tax" is a
better description. Those tax breaks are about to expire in 2010; I'm
worried about sudden and unexpected deaths right before
(laughs). I support
Kyl's proposal.
- MCCAIN: I also have to give you straight talk. I opposed the farm
bill, Obama supported it. I don't think we can afford to give
this money to
asparagus growers, etc. I want to do everything to support the
family farm,
but I oppose the bloated $300B farm bill. Maybe you want to make an
argument, but I've never accepted it because I've never supported a farm
bill. I'll open every market in the world to your products. I believe in
free trade. Colombia is the largest importer of American goods--the same
country that just freed those hostages. Pelosi wont allow a vote on the
Colombian FTA, and those tariffs are giving us an unlevel playing ground.
- 4Q) [child asks] What will you do to help families and children?
- MCCAIN: [asks to repeat the question] After this question if you
feel like taking a nap, you're more than welcome to. The best
thing we can
to for families is give you a quality education, not hand off to you a
bankrupt government, make sure that SS and Medicare will be
there when you
retire, and that any money you pay in taxes because your success
we'll have
stopped this outrageous spending spree--I'll restore trust and
confidence in
government.
- 5Q) What's your vision for the future of our national labs?
- MCCAIN: Research in new technologies is as important now as it's
ever been because of our dependence on foreign oil. At an event
of mine in
Cali, there were Silicon Valley people that had developed a more
efficient
car with a more efficient one on the way. If there were a battery that
powered a car, and the government could help, and it were
affordable, people
would get it. Look at the evolution we've had with cell phones--huge and
expensive initially and now small and they're giving them away.
- It's not the government's role to build that technology, get it onto
the market--that's for private enterprise.
- I also want to point out the large # of NM people in the military
and the NM guard and I want to thank them.
- shout-out to Congressman Pierce, who "i believe will be joining me
in the United States Senate"
- Pearce: MCCAIN doesn't mince words. It's going to restore confidence.
we're not a Democratic or GOP country, we're an American country.
- McCain-- Normally I don't take questions from members of the press
during these events, but I'm making an exception. introduce yourself.
- 6Q) [Scholastic Kids news reporter]: When do you plan to announce the
selection of your VP running mate?
- MCCAIN: As soon as we can. It's a difficult process because we have
so many highly-qualified choices.
- FOLLOW-UP: What qualities are you looking for in a VP running mate?
- MCCAIN: Someone exactly liek you. Young, vigorous, talented. They
should share my principles, priorites and my values. VP only has 2 big
responsibilities: (1) tie-breaking senate vote, (2) inquire as
to health of
the President
- 7Q) What are you going to do about sky-rocketing costs of college?
- MCCAIN: Make sure every American qualified to do so can received a
quality educaiton. We have good student loans but cost of
educaiton making
it too difficult still. We should encourage service to country that then
provides them help with it: TFA, Americorps, military. It doesn't
incentivize people to serve--people do so out of their own noble
instincts--but it rewards them. I would expand them. We just
passed the GI
bill that increases educational benefits to military people--and
allows them
to transfer benefits to their families and children if they stay in long
enough . Webb and I had a disagreement but we resolved it. We
need to hold
down costs of education--we need to work with schools to do so. Finally,
there's a shortage of math experts, so I will focus on providing those
opportunities to pepole like my daughter who graduated with a
degree in art
history. We need to have more engineers, etc. to insure the future of our
nation.
- 8Q) Things are hard for entrepreneurs. How are you going to secure
prosperity for the economic backbone of this country, small businesses?
- MCCAIN: you epitomize to me what America is all about. If we let you
down, we let America down. (1) We need to eliminate dependence on foreign
oil, because you can't pass all that cost down to your customer.
(2) I will
not raise your taxes. If you think otherwise, I'm not your
candidate. (3) We
must continue with free trade. I still believe Americans are the greatest
and strongest economy, but small businesses are the only bright
spot in the
whole dismal economic picture. net loss of 400K jobs, but a
growth of 233K
jobs in small business. The last thing i want to do is raise
your taxes or
mandate health insurance that will cost you. Those decisions
should be made
by you not by the federal goverment.
- without getting too emotional about it, when I think about America,
I think about you "and your partner there" (awkward laughter)... corrects
"your friend--don't mean to get personal". you're the backbone.
- 9Q) I'm going to school on GI bill right now. I'm halfway through my
bachelor's program and my benefits are about to run out. So i want to hear
from the straight talk express, why do you not support the new GI bill?
- MCCAIN: The initial studies for the original bill said that
retention would drop 16%. We need to retain people,
highly-trained people.
We've resolved this, the only thing left is transferability and I'll
continue working on that. I just want it to apply to everybody,
unfortunately they won't accept it beyond people who joined after 9/11.
- 10Q) The SCOTUS can undo in a minute what took years to pass. Where do
you stand on the new DC gun law?
- MCCAIN: One of the most important abilities of the POTUS is the
nomination of federal judges, especially to the SCOTUS. I'm proud of my
support of Roberts and Alito. I will always nominate people with strict
adherence to the
- Straight talk: i voted for Breyer and Ginsburg, not because I agreed
with them ideologically, but because elections have consequences
and because
they were qualified. Plus, the votes were overwhelming toward them. Obama
voted against Alito and Roberts because he didn't agree with them
ideologically. There is a strong divide between myself and Obama
because he
opposed "conservative judges". I want judges who follow strictly to the
Constitution and nothing more.
- 11Q) Worried more about the 60million people south of the border who
are getting benefits.
- MCCAIN: We want to get rid of this extended family situation. 1986
amnesty/immigration bill failed because we didnt' secure our
borders and now
people dont' trust us. We have to secure our borders, then we
have to have a
temp worker program with tamper-proof biometric IDs--this is
separate from
people waiting in line legally. And we have to deal with the 12M
people here
in a human way. When I went to the floor with Kennedy, it was not popular
with parts of GOP.
- Drug problem. I met with the Mexican president. Mexican police are
being assassinated, all related to drug trade to USA. So we have
to address
that to secure our borders. Corruption there is a huge problem. I'm not
predicting armageddon but a Mexican official said that the drug trade is
threatening the stability of the Mexican government. Colombia is
one of the
biggest problems. And we're telling them no free trade. We need
the Maurita
plan. We need to do a better job of educating young Americans
about drugs.
- I know how to fix it. I've reached across the aisle. And that's
because I've always put my country first. Americans want a restoration of
trust and confidence. Congressional approval is down to 9%. Today Senate
majority leader said we're not going to pass appropriations
bill, says we're
not going to take up a bill for offshore drilling, says we're going to do
nothing. Why should we do nothing when Americans are hurting? They're not
going to miss a recess and they're not going to miss a pay
raise. I'm going
to shake them up. I'm going to stop wasteful pork-barrel
spending. I'm going
to make them famous.
- NM is going to be important. They're going to say I need this state,
that I need 2 new Congressman from this area, etc. But it's not
jsut that I
need them, you need them too. And it's ok to disagree, that's
what Americans
are about. We need to fix so many issues. I put my country
first. There was
a time when I was offered to leave first from the POW camp. But I had a
Mexican-American friend there named Everett Alavarez and we couldn't do
that. I will always put my country first.
- [standing ovation]
--
Sara DuBois
Deputy Director of Tracking & Media Monitoring
Progressive Accountability Office
[email protected]
202-609-7681 (office)
410-967-7306 (cell)
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