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*Main Topics: Maliki's Withdrawal Statement, Immigration Policy, Tax Policy Summary of Shift:* Congressional approval hits a record low. Iranian officials continue to voice confidence that Israel will not follow through with its saber rattling. The salmonella mystery continues to puzzle officials and frustrate some pundits. The EPA accuses Cheney of deleting congressional testimony on climate change. Pakistan denies involvement in Kabul car bombing. In Iraq 20% of US armored vehicles are out of service. Exports to Iran are a booming source of US business. Hurricane Bertha receives a downgrade to storm level 1. Russia seems to have issued a vague sort of threat to the US in the face of a Czech-US missile defense plan. Repeated mentions of the fabulous G-8 summit menu played on cable and broadcast programs. Highlights 1) MSNBC: Chris Matthews holds Hegset's feet to the fire on Iraq 2) MSNBC: Librarian with "McCain=Bush" sign kicked out and arrested at McCain event as campaign adopts Bush-like tactics 3) CNN: John McCain's off the cuff joke on Iran 4) MSNBC: Pfotenhauer discusses McCain's immigration policy 5) MSNBC: Holtz-Eakin touts McCain's tax plan over Obama's 6) CNN: Lou Dobbs lashes out against Obama and McCain for pandering to 'ethnocentric' Latino groups [no clip] Clips *Highlight #1* *Matthews Holds Hegset's Feet to the Fire on Iraq *(MSNBC 07/08/08 5:01pm) CHRIS MATTHEWS: First, Iraqi officials are calling for a timetable for US troops to withdrawal from their country. Pete Hegset, who is with the group, Vets for Freedom, and John Soltz, is with the group, Votevets.com. . . I want you to look at what these fellows are saying. Here's Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki's statement. Here's what he has to say about us leaving: quote, "The current trend is to reach the agreement on the memorandum of understanding, either for the departure of US forces or a memorandum of understanding to put a timetable on their withdrawal. In all cases the basis for any agreement will be respect for the full sovereignty of Iraq." And then a further statement. Here's Iraqi national security adviser Rubaie's quote . . . : "There should not be any permanent bases in Iraq unless those bases are under Iraqi control. We would not accept any memorandum of understanding with the US side that has no obvious and specific dates for the foreign troops—" That's what they're calling us now, "withdrawal from Iraq." . . . they're telling us a timetable or to leave now. They're saying no permanent bases. They're making these statements publicly. *How can our people, in this country, like John McCain and George Bush accuse the Democrats of being for being for cutting and running and surrender if the people over, who host us, there are telling us they want us to set a timetable . . . ?* PETE HEGSET: All in all, I think this is a very good thing. We wouldn't be in this political situation where Maliki is making political statements during complex negotiations if we hadn't surged and created the conditions so he can do that. This is political progress when the government feels empowered enough to say you guys can now move on out because we can control our own situation. We can take care of al-Qaeda. This is a good political negotiation that's occurring— MATTHEWS: Then why do the administration officials come out and say they don't agree with this? They don't think we should be setting timetables . . . HEGSET: They said we will withdrawal. We want to withdrawal. I think this is back and forth in negotiations— MATTHEWS: No. You're waffling. They're saying we want a timetable. President bush and McCain have said no timetables. HEGSET: Certainly, the State Department and others have said, it's based on conditions on the ground. And Maliki said that as well, that, okay, yes, this is tied to conditions on the ground as well. MATTHEWS: That's not what he's saying. HEGSET: He has said that in other interviews. MATTHEWS: Ok, let's try it. Let's try it with John. Did you hear what he said? JOHN SOLTZ: I heard what he said. MATTHEWS: What did he say? SOLTZ: It looks to me like Maliki endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president today . . . it's absolutely ridiculous at this point that the Republican -- the leader of the Republican party, that George Bush and John McCain think our soldiers should fight and die wanting security and prosperity in Iraq more than Iraqis want it themselves. . . MATTHEWS: . . . the Iraqi government says they want a timetable for us to withdraw. I want to ask you, Pete, one more time, or several more times, doesn't that clash with this administration's position, we will not set a timetable? HEGSET: This administration, I believe, all those that have served over there want to come home as soon as possible . . . the Iraqi government is saying we're much closer to taking over politically. MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, Pete . . . do you personally support a timetable? HEGSET: I believe it needs to be based on conditions on the ground— MATTHEWS: No, that's not a timetable. Conditions on the ground is saying we play as we see it when the time comes. That says we don't set a timetable . . . do you support us leaving at any agreed time . . . do you agree with the Iraqi government? HEGSET: We need to work alongside the Iraqi government to ensure that we leave behind a stable state— MATTHEWS: I don't know what that means. HEGSET: That Maliki can control. MATTHEWS: Maliki says he wants us out now or to set a timetable. Do you agree with that? HEGSET: Maliki wants us out as soon as possible, we want out as soon as possible. MATTHEWS: That's not what he's saying. HEGSET: That is what he's saying. MATTHEWS: He's saying he wants timetable. Do you want a timetable, yes or no? HEGSET: Do I want a timetable? We want out as soon as possible. MATTHEWS: Do we want out March of next year? March two years from now, April of next year, that's called a timetable. Are we going to have a timetable for leaving Iraq or are we going to stay there indefinitely? HEGSET: It's always been based on conditions on the ground. Violence is going down. We're bringing troops home. We are bringing troops home, Chris. And violence is going down. MATTHEWS: You're not here to deal with the facts. [. . .] MATTHEWS: It seems to me, if we disagree with them, then we're the occupier against their will. SOLTZ: Aboslutely, they have a freely-elected government we established. . . MATTHEWS: Here's what John McCain said back in 2004 to a meeting of the Counsel on Foreign Relation. The group's chair was Reter Peterson, said, quote, "What would or should we do if the post June 30th period and during that period a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation at that time?" . . . here's what McCain said when asked what we would do if the Iraqi government told us to leave with a timetable: "Well, if that scenario evolves, I think it's obvious we would have to leave because if it was an elected government of Iraq . . . if it was an extremist government I think we would have to have other challenges. I don't think how we could stay when our emphasis on policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government to the Iraqi people." John McCain says if they give us a timetable or tell us to leave at a specific time we'll do it. Do you agree with that? HEGSET: Well, yeah, this is not an extremist government, so we would pack our bags and go home. That's exactly what's happening now, we're brining troops home . . . because the surge has created the conditions where Maliki is now strong enough to make these kind of political statements. These are complex political negotiations— MATTHEWS: Why do you keep calling them political statements? HEGSET: That's exactly what they are. MATTHEWS: What do you mean by a political statement? HEGSET: Because right now the government of Iraq and the government of the United States are negotiating . . . this is all within that context. [. . .] MATTHEWS: How do we -- how can we tell them, after the end of this year we're going to stay in their country if they don't want us there? HEGEST: If they formally asked us to leave, I believe we would. SOLTZ: They have . . . it seemed pretty formal today. [. . .] MATTHEWS: Gentlemen, what I find interesting is in news. For months now the debate in America is between those like John McCain who talked about a long term . . . commitment of US troops in that country, perhaps 100 years . . . now we find out that the Iraqi government does not want us there with permanent bases . . . over there unless they're working under the leadership . . . and they want us to set a timetable for leaving or else leave immediately. That runs completely against the rhetoric we've been hearing from the administration, from John McCain who have been saying they don't want to cut and run. They don't want to surrender. They want to stay there 100 years. And now the Iraqi government itself comes out and says we want you guys out of here . . . that completely undercuts the Republican administration's position and McCain's position. [. . .] MATTHEWS: Doesn't it undercut their argument? HEGSET: Actually it reinforces the argument that if you surge you can create the political space for Iraqis to stand up— [. . .] MATTHEWS: . . . let's listen to what the president said and Senator McCain said. let's look at the history here. GEOGE W. BUSH: The party of FDR and the party of Harry Truman has become the party of cut and run [. . .] AUDIENCE MEMBER TO MCCAIN: President bush has talked about us staying in Iraq for 50 years. JOHN MCCAIN: Maybe 100. [cut to new clip] If we did what senator Obama wanted to do, that's immediate withdraw, that would mean surrender in Iraq. MATTHEWS: . . . now we're hearing from the Iraqi government, I think, Pete you and I disagree on this. Here's the ad your group has been putting out . . .: [plays Vets for Freedom, "Finish the Job ad"] MATTHEWS: Over the next four years . . . what does finishing the job, mean, Pete, if the Iraqi government called for a timetable for us to leave? HEGSET: It's exactly what's happening right now. MATTHEWS: No. What does it, for the next four -- answer the question, Pete. Over the next four to eight years, what does finishing the job mean if the Iraqi government told us they want a timetable for withdrawal? HEGSET: Finishing the job means an Iraqi government that doesn't allow haven to our enemies, which is exactly what's happening . . . MATTHEWS: It's good news that the Iraqi government is telling us to leave? HEGSET: That's political progress. They haven't formally done so, Chris. . . . MATTHEWS: Pete is saying what basically they're saying is not for home consumption, that's not really what they want us to do. [. . .] MATTHEWS: Let me tell you. Having lived and watched through the Vietnam War, I never heard the Vietnamese government tell us to leave. this is a staggering development . . . they're telling us it's time for us to go. That runs, to me, directly counter to John McCain talking about a Korean-style situation where we're there 100 years. [. . .] *Highlight #2* *Librarian with "McCain=Bush" Sign Kicked Out and Arrested at McCain Event as Campaign Adopts Bush-Like Tactics *(MSNBC 07/08/08 8:41pm) RACHAEL MADDOW: Freedom of speech and the right to assemble perhaps in the eye of the overzealous beholder when it comes to John McCain's campaign staff . . . while Mr. McCain was delivering, quote, "straight-talk" at one of his open forum town hall meetings in Denver yesterday, things were getting closed down just outside. STAFFER: Ma'am, I need you to remove the sign, I asked you once already. CAROL KRECK: But I'm outside. This is outside. [. . .] POLICE OFFICER: You have two choices. You can keep your sign here and receive a ticket for trespass or you can remove the sign and stay in line and attend this town hall meeting. KRECK: . . . you're saying that I'm trespassing on city property-- POLICE OFFICER: No, he's saying you're trespassing on city property. [points at staffer] KRECK: Am I being arrested? [. . .] MADDOW: The unassuming protester is part time librarian and former *Denver Post* reporter, Carol Kreck. Ultimately escorted off the property by four police officers. The sixty year old woman was given a citation and a court date. But because librarians are trained democracy superheroes, Ms. Kreck did not stay silent for long. KRECK: I believe he said the ticket was for trespassing. He said if I went back into the plaza I would be arrested. [holds up sign] It says "McCain=Bush" Now, any Republican, why is that offensive? Why would a Republican . . . who voted for Bush find offensive that a sign says, Bush=McCain or McCain=Bush? MADDOW: Progress Now Action tells *Countdown* that they have created a defense fund for Ms. Kreck . . . why don't we start with Ms. Kreck's question there? If her sign had said, "I heart John McCain," would she have been so swiftly booted? I think she kind of makes a good point. Why would a loyal Republican be insulted at the comparison of McCain to Bush? JAMES MOORE*: Yeah, Republican campaigns would be so much easier to run if we could just get this pesky freedom of speech thing out of the way. The truth is they really don't want to be equated with George W. Bush. It's a bad brand to be carrying forward . . .* clearly there were people inside of this facility, this publicly taxed facility that was rented by the McCain campaign, there were people inside there who were expressing their opinions, probably wearing buttons. Why weren't they escorted out? I think this is an ugly kind of thing for the McCain campaign thing to have happen and to focus on instead of what was going on inside of that building. MADDOW: . . . isn't the PR fiasco that has ensued here and that won't go away anytime soon. As you kind of alluded to earlier, isn't this fiasco probably worse and more disruptive than anything Ms. Kreck could've done . . . ? MOORE: Well if the real issue is trying to separate themselves from George W. Bush, this isn't the way to do it. There are a number of things that the Bush campaign has done throughout which is to try to control the message, to keep dissent at a minimum and this is almost rebranding themselves as the Bush campaign but the McCain version of it . . .<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/n1h1ojy800> *Highlight #3* *John McCain's off the Cuff Joke on Iran* (CNN 07/08/08 8:40pm) [When Campbell Brown introduces this clip she reminds viewers of McCain's similar joke, the infamous 'Bomb Iran' song.] REPORTER: We've learned that the exports to Iran [from America] increased by tenfold during the Bush administration. The biggest export was cigarettes. JOHN MCCAIN: That's a way of killing them. [laughs] I meant that as a joke. […] *STEVE KORNACKI: Yeah, he meant it as a joke, but I think it reveals something very significant about this man's thinking when it comes to Iran and when it comes to the Middle East because this is the second time he's made a joke about killing Iranians. The first time, as you mentioned was when he sang along saying, 'Bomb […] Iran.' This is a guy who, when he thinks of Iran, sees nothing but an enemy*, sees nothing but a country we need to confront, we need to confront them militarily and we need to confront them aggressively. That is the only thing John McCain sees when he sees Iran. That's the view of the Middle East that he subscribes too and it's funny because you had a package at the start of the show, we talked all about how strained the US military is right now, between Iraq and between Afghanistan and *this is a guy who seems to want to open up a third front on this war from day one in office.* TARA WALL: That's a stretch. I mean, come on. Iran is serious. […] JESSICA YELLIN: This is the kind of thing that reinforces existing views of John McCain. People who already don't like him see this as an awful statement. People who love and think he's a real guy who makes a joke off the cuff just like real people do and the rest of the American public just isn't paying attention and doesn't care about this sort of thing. The only red flag is, if this indicates John McCain going ranch more and more, there could be trouble down the line. We're all waiting to see if something explodes. That's the kind of thing that could get him into trouble eventually. This kind of comment doesn't.<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/fc2mpnmsk0> * Highlight #4* *Pfotenhauer Discusses McCain's Immigration Plan and Attacks Obama on Unrelated Issues *(MSNBC 07/08/08 11:49am) CONTESSA BREWER: . . . [McCain] is expected to expect immigration just at the end of his speech. Is there a strategy in that? NANCY PFOTENHAUER: I think Senator McCain's gonna lay out his vision for this country and moving us forward into the future and dealing with all of the challenges that we face. He's a very solutions-oriented guy as you know and so I expect him to talk about the economy, about health care and, of course, about immigration reform. It's an issue that matters very much to this community. Also about national security because that's on the mind of the average American. BREWER: . . . his critics will say . . . he's flip flopping, that all of a sudden he's only concerned about border security and not about actual reform for the way we take in immigrants. Is that the case? PFOTENHAUER: Not at all . . . let's go ahead and address the issue. Sen. McCain has obviously made it a hallmark of his career, particularly for the last six to eight years to work towards immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform. It's been a model of a bipartisanship. You don' have to take our word for it, you can take Ted Kennedy's word for it. It failed in the last time through. And there were a couple of reasons for that. One is that there were real concerns that border security was not being given the emphasis that it should and Sen. McCain is addressing that. But the other is there was a concerted effort by the Democratic leadership who were working at the behest of labor unions to kill the bill and Barack Obama carried their water. . . BREWER: Why is Barack Obama beating John McCain? This recent Gallup poll has him losing to Barack Obama by thirty points among Latino voters. PFOTENHAUER: I think that's probably largely representative of the generic ballot difference between Democrats and Republicans. But also because the Republican party has been associated with concerns about immigration reform. Now John McCain breaks the mold for the Republicans on this. He's someone who never blinked at immigration reform, the way he doesn't blink at any problem facing our country . . . but whether it's immigration reform or NAFTA, I mean Sen. Obama's going to have to explain his position on wanting to renegotiate that . . . he's far to the left of even the pro-choice movement on abortion, I think he's eventually going to have a very hard sell for this voting block . . .<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/3j5jtu3wo0> *Highlight #5* *Holtz-Eakin Touts McCain's Tax Plan Over Obama's *(MSNBC 07/08/08 2:36pm) JOHN HARWOOD: Doug, let me ask but that poll we've been talking about showing Obama ahead two to one among Hispanic voters given where John McCain was on immigration reform standing with Ted Kennedy, supporting that bipartisan bill, why is he struggling at this point in the campaign? DOUGLAS HOLTZ-EAKIN: He's going to compete for votes across this nation and do so successfully using the recipe that we saw on immigration reform. He has recognized the great challenges all across America from immigration, whether at the border, at the work site, undocumented aliens, or folks who want to pursue the American dream. He's committed to solving these problems. *This is more than plans.* *This is about matching words and actions*. If you look at what Senator Obama is doing today, he's running around America promising everyone—95% of them—a tax cut. When he goes back to the senate, he votes twice to raise taxes on people making as little as $32,000. When John McCain left the campaign trail he went to pursue immigration reform, reaching across the aisle with Ted Kennedy and putting at risk his own political future. *Words and actions have to match and that's what gets votes.* HARWOOD: By voting against those Bush tax cuts in 2001, wasn't John McCain voting for higher taxes for the same people? HOLTZ-EAKIN: John McCain has always believed you should control spending and compare that with low taxes and that's a recipe for growth and that's what Americans need right now. Especially right now, what Americans need is a job that is foundation of the dreams and prosperity. Creating jobs and having great in the economy is the number one priority and that, in the end, is what John McCain is about. *Every policy is through that lens.* TAMRON HALL: I want to play something that Senator Obama had to say about taxes in the '90s and get your response on the other side. BARACK OBAMA: This applies to me as well. The fact of the matter is that, if we went back to the Bush tax rates that existed under Bill Clinton in the 1990s, rich people were still rich back then. I mean, you remember the 1990s weren't that long ago. If you were rich then, you were doing fine. You didn't need that extra tax cut from George Bush. HALL: All right, you heard him there. Will that cost him many votes or will you have folks at home struggling to fill up their family car and say, 'That's the truth. I'm going vote for this guy because of it.' HOLTZ-EAKIN: They're going to vote for John McCain because he's got the recipe for their job. Senator Obama's ideological drive to raise taxes will catch in the cross fires small businesses that are the heart of job creation in the United States. *John McCain has not given a tax cut for wealthy*. Top rate is 35% right now and it will be in the future. He'll make sure the small businesses have access to capital. Dividends and capital gains rates will stay at 15%. They won't go down. The only tax cut John McCain is proposing is one that *corporate America will get to keep jobs in America. *Right now, those good jobs, the ones with health benefits, retirement benefits are walking overseas to places like Ireland with lower taxes. John McCain wants those workers to have their jobs here in America and that's what his policies are all about—not about tax cuts for wealthy, all the demagoguery not withstanding. HARWOOD: As you know, the Obama campaign says that John McCain's ideological commitment to cutting taxes will create big problems. You may have heard a few minutes ago a reference to the McCain economic plan as voodoo two, saying that it would not add up, in terms of the deficit. The democrats put out a release yesterday saying that John McCain would have to cut Medicare 81% to balance the budget, given the numbers you guys have put out. What about that? Do they add up? HOLTZ-EAKIN: The plan that doesn't add up is Barack Obama's. He's promising a tax cut to 95% of Americans, spend a trillion and a half dollars over the next five years and somehow have it add up. What John McCain is going to do is return to the discipline that we saw in the late 1990s under that democrat voodoo, Bill Clinton. When republicans and democrats got together and put together tight spending controls every year, kept the economy growing, produced the revenues necessary for the federal government and brought the budget to balance and then ultimately surplus. HARWOOD: You agree he can't get there with cutting earmarks, right? *HOLTZ-EAKIN: And he doesn't plan to*. It's a return to a proven tactic, which is using the taxpayer's money wisely and the earmarks are part of that, but also a a bipartisan approach to commitment to reduce spending. HARWOOD: What about the lines that Tamron was reading from Barack Obama, that is republicans say the rich weren't rich enough in the 1990s. Are you concerned that the populist rhetoric will take a toll out of you in the campaign? HOLTZ-EAKIN: No. John McCain looks at every crowd and sees American workers and everything in this campaign is around making sure they have a good job. Health insurance costs aren't too high. They don't have mandate to pay for something they can't afford. Education's work [sic]. We don't throw money into systems that don't graduate kids. Energy is cheap, clean and available in the United States. A broad commitment to controlling our energy future and taking the American economy out of the hands of those in the Middle East who control it at the moment. This is a recipe for an economy that grows rapidly, price jobs to American workers and it's a comprehensive plan that will achieve those ends. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "big campaign" group. To post to this group, send to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] E-mail [email protected] with questions or concerns This is a list of individuals. It is not affiliated with any group or organization. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---