Re: one chain on DOMA

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Richard: Since I was asked on Friday about the Defense of Marriage Act in an interview on MSNBC, I've checked with people who were involved then to make sure I had all my facts right. It turns out I was mistaken and the effort to pass a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage came some years later. The larger point I was trying to make about DOMA, however, is still true. It was neither proposed nor supported by anyone in the Clinton administration at the time. It was an effort by the Republicans in Congress to distract attention from the real issues facing the country by using gay marriage, which had very little support then, as a wedge issue in the election. The legislation passed by overwhelming veto-proof margins in both houses of Congress and President Clinton signed it with serious reservations he expressed at the time. Luckily the country has evolved way beyond this in the last 20 years and most Americans, including the Supreme Court, now embrace LGBT equality. We are a better country for it. Although there is much work that remains, and I'm eager to help advance the day when we are all truly equal. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> wrote: > + JP's personal email > > On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here is what Gautam put together to be helpful: >> >> "I'm not my husband. I understand why he believed that was the right >> thing to do at the time, but obviously I wish it had gone differently. >> Look, we've all come along way since the 90s and I'm proud to have been a >> part of an Administration that has made it possible for gay troops to serve >> openly and loving gay couples to get married. I'm also proud of MY record >> as Secretary of State. I think the community knows I will be the ally they >> deserve." >> >> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This WJC op-Ed may be helpful: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bill-clinton-its-time-to-overturn-doma/2013/03/07/fc184408-8747-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html >>> >>> Bill Clinton: It’s time to overturn DOMA >>> >>> *The writer is the 42nd president of the United States.* >>> >>> *I*n 1996, I signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Although that was only >>> 17 years ago, it was a very different time. In no state in the union was >>> same-sex marriage recognized, much less available as a legal right, but >>> some were moving in that direction. Washington, as a result, was swirling >>> with all manner of possible responses, some quite draconian. As a >>> bipartisan group of former senators stated in their March 1 amicus brief to >>> the Supreme Court, many supporters of the bill known as DOMA believed that >>> its passage “would defuse a movement to enact a constitutional amendment >>> banning gay marriage, which would have ended the debate for a generation or >>> more.” It was under these circumstances that DOMA came to my desk, opposed >>> by only 81 of the 535 members of Congress. >>> >>> On March 27, DOMA will come before the Supreme Court >>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2012/12/07/the-supreme-court-takes-up-doma/>, >>> and the justices must decide whether it is consistent with the principles >>> of a nation that honors freedom, equality and justice above all, and is >>> therefore constitutional. As the president who signed the act into law, I >>> have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in >>> fact, incompatible with our Constitution. >>> >>> Because Section 3 of the act defines marriage as being between a man and >>> a woman, same-sex couples who are legally married in nine states and the >>> District of Columbia are denied the benefits of more than a thousand >>> federal statutes and programs available to other married couples. Among >>> other things, these couples cannot file their taxes jointly, take unpaid >>> leave to care for a sick or injured spouse or receive equal family health >>> and pension benefits as federal civilian employees. Yet they pay taxes, >>> contribute to their communities and, like all couples, aspire to live in >>> committed, loving relationships, recognized and respected by our laws. >>> >>> When I signed the bill, I included a statement >>> <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/ftp/wpaf2mc/clinton.html> with >>> the admonition that “enactment of this legislation should not, despite the >>> fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to >>> provide an excuse for discrimination.” Reading those words today, I know >>> now that, even worse than providing an excuse for discrimination, the law >>> is itself discriminatory. It should be overturned. >>> >>> We are still a young country, and many of our landmark civil rights >>> decisions are fresh enough that the voices of their champions still echo, >>> even as the world that preceded them becomes less and less familiar. We >>> have yet to celebrate the centennial of the 19th Amendment, but a society >>> that denied women the vote would seem to us now not unusual or >>> old-fashioned but alien. I believe that in 2013 DOMA and opposition to >>> marriage equality are vestiges of just such an unfamiliar society. >>> >>> Americans have been at this sort of a crossroads often enough to >>> recognize the right path. We understand that, while our laws may at times >>> lag behind our best natures, in the end they catch up to our core values. >>> One hundred fifty years ago, in the midst of the Civil War, President >>> Abraham Lincoln concluded a message to Congress by posing the very question >>> we face today: “It is not ‘Can any of us imagine better?’ but ‘Can we >>> all do better <http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29503>?’ >>> ” >>> >>> The answer is of course and always yes. In that spirit, I join with the >>> Obama administration, the petitioner Edith Windsor >>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/edie-windsors-fight-for-same-sex-marriage-rights-continues-even-after-partners-death/2012/07/19/gJQARguhwW_story.html>, >>> and the many other dedicated men and women who have engaged in this >>> struggle for decades in urging the Supreme Court to overturn the Defense of >>> Marriage Act. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Kate Offerdahl < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all - we are going to do 4:30. >>> >>> Those here at the Hilton can take the call from the staff room. >>> >>> Call-In: 718-441-3763, no pin >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Looping in Kate. She is going to get it scheduled. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> All times are good for me. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds like tony can do 4:15? Can others? If not I could do anytime >>>>> before 5:15 or after 6. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Robby Mook <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Adding Dominic. >>>>>> Agree--let's get our people on a call and push back >>>>>> I'm also tied up for next few hours @ finance stuff. But let's get >>>>>> this moving. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Jake Sullivan < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Adding Tony, who recalls this from ’08 when she made a similar >>>>>> argument. We did not turn up much to support idea that alternative was a >>>>>> constitutional amendment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also adding Schwerin. I think we should pull her statements around >>>>>> the time she embraced marriage equality and place greatest emphasis on the >>>>>> fact that she fully acknowledges that she evolved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m on calls next two hours but Maya has my proxy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Jennifer Palmieri [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:46 PM >>>>>> *To:* Brian Fallon <[email protected]>; John Podesta < >>>>>> [email protected]>; Robby Mook <[email protected]>; >>>>>> Kristina Schake <[email protected]>; Maya Harris < >>>>>> [email protected]>; Jake Sullivan < >>>>>> [email protected]>; Marlon Marshall < >>>>>> [email protected]>; Heather Stone < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> *Subject:* one chain on DOMA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Think all of us are getting incoming from friends in LGBT community >>>>>> about DOMA comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> HuffPo has reached out to us. I heard from Socarides that NYT was >>>>>> doing something. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no understanding of the issue – but clear this has a head of >>>>>> steam. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian can put a statement out, but policy and political need to tell >>>>>> us what you want us to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would suggest a conference call with relevant parties for how we >>>>>> are going to handle all around – press, groups, politics. I have a bad >>>>>> schedule for rest of day and may not be able to be on such a call but >>>>>> don’t think I am needed. We just need guidance and then on political end >>>>>> think we need a plan for how to hose down anxious friends. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dominic Lowell >>>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>>> 661.364.5186 >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Dominic Lowell >> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >> 661.364.5186 >> [email protected] >> >> > > -- > Dominic Lowell > LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America > 661.364.5186 > [email protected] > >