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From: Lawrence Krauss < > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:43 PM To: Jeffrey E. Cc: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL thanks.. I agree.. re the President. The president =ill probably form the conciliation committee, but the final decision is =is, which I can then dispute of course. It is within his power =owever to decline the Dean's recommendation immediately, as he =an do regarding tenure appointment itself. So while I expect it =o go to committee, there is the off chance he could just reverse the =ecision. He has done this in other cases on other =atters. LMK Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics =epartment Arizona State University, P.O. Box =71404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: = I Assistant (Jessica): twitter.com/Ikraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com> On Aug 22, 2018, at 4:08 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: i think you might add =hat I implore you to =est the credibility of the witnesses against me. of course = will be asking the conciliation commitee to do the =ame . If need be I hope and assume that =hould it become necessary to have a hearing that you will allow me to =ake the depositoins of the follwing five people . =ustralia lady . video lady . two former origns lady, =nd / this will send amessage =hat you are not going awy On Wed, =ug 22, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto >> wrote: The=President will read the appeal letter, as far as I know, and can send =o conciliation, who will read the appeal letter too I believe.. But I =elieve the President could act on the appeal directly too. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404 EFTA_R1_01800443 EFTA02608116  Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica): <mailto-> =nbsp; twitter.comnkraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:35 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: i thought the =resident can only send you to conciliation , then you get to =ppeal again if that doesnt work. . it is the =oncilation where a accomadation for your disablity or severance can be =ade . I thought the appeal letter was =echnical. id like to appeal and here s why On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:31PM, =awrence Krauss < > wrote: will think on this.. I don't want to have to go =o the next level if I can help it. financially and otherwise. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica): <mailto > =nbsp; I twitter.com/Ikraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com chttp://ww.lawrencemkrauss.comi> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:30 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 1 i think the =oncilation commitee makes the decision. if you can =eopen then isnt it better to keep amber heard to yourself =ncase you lose than you can say new info? On Wed, =ug 22, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > wrote: This is the only chance I get to have the president review =his case.. He needs to see that a large part of the substance of =t is incorrect. . Moreover, since complainants are allowed to have the =ase reopened as many times as they wish after a determination is made =f they claim to have new evidence or disagree with its findings, a =efusal to consider this evidence as part of my appeal is further =rounds for discrimination. 2 EFTA_R1_01800444 EFTA02608117  Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): <mailto > =nbsp; I twitter.comilkraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.comi> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:18 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: I =hink you might want to make it part of the concillaiton =rocess. not to allow once again , them to get ahead of =ou. they ask others re amber . letters. =tc. you need to remember this will be =ublished. lull victim shaming not seen to be the done =hing. think if you were writing a two page =iece for the times. then add the rest. On Wed, Au 22, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Lawrence Krauss =span dir="ltr" class="">< <mailto > =rote: I =gree with you regarding compromise. This is an appeal letter to =he president. It is to explain to him with the proposed disciplinary =ction is not warranted. Letters that were not solicited by the =El but should have been seem fair game in this regard. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversi , P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): <mailto > =nbsp; I twitter.com/Ikrauss1 I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.comk On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:13 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 3 EFTA_R1_01800445 EFTA02608118  is there any -precedent in an appeal letter to =dd letters of support? i think it is a legal appeal =ot an appeal to ones emotions . it is legal grounds =r not. you can attack the credibility of witnesses =ut you have been found to be not credible. and with a multi =ear behavior issue however did you break a =ule??? I dont think you should suggest a =ompromise in an appeal letter. . you can make refernce to not =anting a long drawn out court battle. a bit =hreatening, but not play your hand On Wed, =ug 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > wrote: This is highly confidential of course, but it is good news, =nd I will use it in the appeal doc, which I am HEAVILY revising =oday. I am also going to send you another support letter that is =uite important in a minute. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): <mailto > =nbsp; I twitter.com/Ikraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> Begin forwarded message: From: =/b>A H < Subject: =/b>Hello Date: =/b>August 22, 2018 at 1:23:08 PM =DT To: =/b>Lawrence Krauss < Thanks for forwarding me the content of the investigative =eport by ASU related to me and my participation, along with Johnny, at =rigins events. I am attaching what you sent to me so that = may comment on it.: "Four Witnesses reported during the =nvestigation that Respondent once made a comment in the presence of =mployees about the physical characteristics of Amber Heard, an actress =nd female 4 EFTA_R1_01800446 EFTA02608119 visitor at Origins Project event. Specifically, during the =ohnny Depp event on February 16, 2016, that Respondent, while getting =veryone together to take a picture with Johnny Depp, said, "get =our hot ass over here" when attempting to get Amber to join the =icture. During this same event, two witnesses allege that Respondent =old Heard, "Your ass looks great." Employees also =ndicate that he talked about how "hot she =as". When asked if he ever commented on a =emale's buttocks in front of employees, Respondent stated, =E2 Whoa, not that I...I can't imagine doing that =9D. Respondent stated, "Generally, I would say that is not a =ood idea" but added that if someone asked his opinion about =omeone, he might respond. When asked if he ever made comments about =mber Heard's body, Respondent stated, "No. Amber Heard =s an incredibly attractive woman, and everybody understands that and =verybody said it, and she is". Respondent stated that he did not =emember telling Heard that her "ass" looked good. He =tated, "I don't remember saying it, but it's =he kind of thing that a close friend would say to a close friend in the =ontext of [asking for wardrobe advice], but I certainly don't =emember it, but we were very, very close." Respondent stated =hat making such comments in the workplace would be outside of normal =onduct for him, but "if it would've happened, it would =ave not been at the Origins offices. It would have been in the middle =f an event when we were celebrating". Factual Determination: Four witnesses =eard Respondent make the statement. Although Respondent stated he did =ot remember saying this, he did acknowledge that it is the kind of =hing that a close friend would say. It is more likely than not that =espondent made the statements. " Hey Lawrence. I'm glad to hear from you although, of =ourse, I am saddened that it is under these =ircumstances. Here is my response, which you may forward to the =niversity if you wish: I do not recall this or any incident between us =s being inappropriate. I also feel deeply for anyone who feels as =hough they have been the subject of any unwanted attention in this way, =01 hope this can provide any clarity on your situation. =nbsp; Lawrence Krauss was a close friend, and as I =ecall his behavior towards me was gracious and kind during our visits =o the Origins Project. I don't recall any such comments =y him backstage at the Origins event, and more generally remember no =nappropriate comments toward me at any time, either in public or =ackstage during the events, or at our home or elsewhere, and we left =11 of our interactions with both him, and his Origins staff, feeling =ery well treated. The Origins events were a highlight for =e. I =ope this lays this issue to rest. Due=to the public nature of my life and the uniquely public circumstances =urrounding aspects of my marriage and divorce to my ex-husband (who =articipated in the Origins event mentioned above), I request that this =tatement be used internally by the university only. Thank =ou. Best regards Amber Heard. 5 EFTA_R1_01800447 EFTA02608120  please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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