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From: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: currency question
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 01:01:09 +0000
email me tomrw when ready
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
ok.. will call tomorrow.. number?
On May 15, 2015, at 5:15 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
sure, and yes all
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Lawrence Krauss > wrote:
Tomorrow? (Also address my other questions?)
Lawrence Krauss
Foundation Professor
School of Earth and Space Exploration and Physics Dept.
Co-director, Cosmology Initiative
and Director, Origins initiative
Arizona State University
Sent from my iPhone
On May 15, 2015, at 4:35 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
its a longer discussion
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Lawrence Krauss c > wrote:
but poverty and starvation, which may be the case if one looks at one's navel and says OMMM may
not be good for replication and long term selective success...
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, Origins Project
Foundation Professor
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY
School of Earth and Space Exploration
PO Box 871404 I Tempe AZ 85287-1404
On May 15, 2015, at 2:28 PM, jeffrey E. leevacation@grtn> wrote:
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money is NOT happiness. , money is outer happy inner. have you met mickael gromov?
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Lawrence Krauss c wrote:
ahh
On May 15, 2015, at 2:15 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
a payoff matrix that is seen differently by certain players. so that a 2 by 2 matrix that has 3,0 ,
first row and 2. s second row. . second row should be played , but inner delusional sees it as 33
. and wins quite often
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Lawrence Krauss c wrote:
don't know what that means...
On May 15, 2015, at 2:07 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
it has to do with delusional matrices.
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Lawrence Krauss c wrote:
just to provoke some input from Martin.. and it may make a face to face meeting
worthwhile... my question is, if one accepts that there are two (inside vs outside),
conflicting forces at work.. the game theory issue then becomes how to couple these and
derive optimal solutions..
LMK
On May 14, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Lawrence Krauss c > wrote:
hmmm.. have to think about this.. it is long accepted that the god myth satisfies some
long standing internal need humans have for either defense against death or need for
purpose.. no doubt actions governed by satisfying that pleasure center... the key question is
where inside and outside intersect and cannot both be satisfied together.. that is where
game theory is relevant I think.. how to compromise on satisfying hopes, and satisfying
reality when trying to outsmart a charging lion..
LMK
On May 13, 2015, at 3:47 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
inner domain, goals are self created. mastabatory fantasies. for example. rewards in
sub domains, social physical emotional. , some hard wired food, temp. etc. a
continum of hard to self imagined. . adapted for the outer domain, l environment, .
outer domain subject to laws of physics . inner domain , biologically yes, but
ghosts, beliefs self deception and delusion, and most importantly hope, all actualized.
It makes little sense to apply an evidenced based system in the inner domain, it is
comprised of a non cummative li grouping, . no symmetry for example. however the
image of your fantasy girl conjured up while you pleasure yourself , is a real to the
innner self as the cigarette you smoke afterwards is to the outer domain.
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Inner rewards would have been subject to natural selection, so that random killing in
the inner world would unlikely be adaptive. acts of inner revenge however could blow
off steam and save outer world consequences.
religion acts as one of many proposed belief systems to help construct an inner life.
where the unpowerful are effective. it makes as little sense for it to be a logic system
operating in the outer domain as little as a science based view on the evidence of my
fantasy girl. you should find some highly correlated inner and outer rewards but as
many uncorrelated. depression might mean ignoring the outside altogether, retreating
into an inner self in order not to do harm.
the inner life should be normally distributed over subdomains as well as a homgenious
popualtion . so that some in the group receive social pleasure, some only physical. etc.
In the game theory analogy, the reserves both in the inner and outer domain play a
substantial role. . there are many experiments that show that a rational being modulates
his reserves so that they last a long time. only in certain circumstances can you access
these reserves on purpose. jet pilots told to hold their hands in ice water , until they
can't take it pull out in under 150 seconds. however if you tell them to last for 180 to
make the grade 80 percent are capable. . hope meanining purpose. all self created
fictions that are selected for. . there are outward signs , confidnece , smiling , that create
an outer group;
religioin is a logic system that intersects that of science .ie being kind, has benefits in
outer as well as inner domains - as goals are aligned, believing that mohammed rode to
heaven on a horse. is ok, if it satiates the inner self. reduces blood pressure, but unable
to withstand the rigor of the outer mathematics. and is dangerious but so is that blonde,
girl that always does as she is asked in your fantasy, . uh oh, you actually married
her.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Lawrence Krauss c > wrote:
will call in a bit.. doing your letter now and other things I should have done yesterday..
In. here is my acceptance speech I wrote for the AHA.. you may hate it.. but I was
proud of it. Martin's suggestion may lead to another path.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
On May 13, 2015, at 12:05 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gran> wrote:
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its really really good
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Lawrence Krauss c wrote:
no worries.. my problem.. not yours..
doing your letter today.
today is first day I feel ok.. we need to talk again about Martin's idea.. my mind
was not working the other day...
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
On May 13, 2015, at 10:55 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
i had a strong view back when. now unsure
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Lawrence Krauss ale wrote:
quick question.. we have been lazy and left money in AUD. in the last 2 days it
has shot up 4 cents.. should we transfer the money or expect it to rise further?
Any ideas?
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
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