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-1 of 8 - OINCIAL RECORD FD.302 (Rev. 5440) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Mmofemn, 04/23/2020 , date of birth was interviewed at One Saint Andrews Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was legal team, including attorneys Also present for the interview was AUSA III, AUSA , Special Agent and Detective IIII . After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: met JEFFREY EPSTEIN between the ages of 20 and 21. While in New York, went to schools. EPSTEIN paid for her to attend massage school at EPSTEIN knew that did not go to school growing up. was in school when EPSTEIN was in jail. At some point she dropped out. When EPSTEIN got out of jail he told to go back to school so she did. finished school around 2012 or 2013. Invest:pi:on on 10/24/2019 m New York, New York, United States (In Person) nic K SIND-NY-3027571 Mwthmled 01/21/2020 by This document contains neither 0:commendation% nor conclusions of the FBI. II is the property of the FBI and n loaned to your agency; II and its contents me not to be distributed oubule your agency. 3501.484-004 Page 1 of8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095978 EFTA01250052 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 cbminumionulFD•302of (U) Interview of .On 10/24/2019 . pag„ 2 of 8 Between the ages of 20 and 21, started dancing at school. was at this school. While in near her school. approached opened up to about her life and told that she knew someone that needed a massage and paid really well. said yes and a few days later she goes to the mansion on 71st street in Manhattan. set this up. LESLEY GROFF was not working there at this time. When arrived, she sat in the front room. EPSTEIN then brought her into a massage room and he laid down. He was quiet at first and proceeded to give him a real massage. They started having a casual conversation; he was nice. He seemed free spirited. thought about possibly setting him up with her mother. was paid about $300 for this encounter. When there were sexual encounters EPSTEIN would pay more. soon started going almost everyday. would set it up. Soon after that GROFF would start arranging it. GROFF would call . The first sexual encounter happened around the second time she massaged him. EPSTEIN got off the table and said that he could tell she was stressed. He took out a vibrator and asked if this was OK. He then put it on stomach. He then moved it closer and started experiencing things. then got up and left. EPSTEIN masturbated either the first or second time. It was a slow progression. EPSTEIN developed an emotional connection and felt she did not want to embarrass him by saying no. At one point, called to tell her what had happened and that she was upset. said she was sorry but EPSTEIN was a good guy. Sometimes, EPSTEIN would pay $800- $1000 because he knew of her home and financial situation. eventually moved into the building at 301 East 66th Street. EPSTEIN made get a short haircut that she did not like; it was a boy cut, and blonde. She 3501.484-004 Page 2 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095979 EFTA01250053 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation ofFD•302of (0 ) Interview of O, 10/24/2019 fts, 3 of 8 recalled moving into the 301 building right after getting this haircut. This was within about seven months of meeting EPSTEIN, around 2006-2007. went to the EPSTEIN's island about 15 times. She went to the New Mexico ranch very early on. went to Boston with EPSTEIN and III went to Palm Beach, Florida several times. She also went while he was in jail. Prior to EPSTEIN going to jail, was with him a lot. They had sex and EPSTEIN did not have consent. The first time would straddle EPSTEIN and nothing would happen. The next time something would happen. wished she didn't stay with him that long and wished she didn't take IIII to the island. EPSTEIN used the fact that was lonely, telling her to bring to the island. wanted to protect and watch while on the island the whole time. EPSTEIN sent to the gym to work out with IGOR. When got back she couldn't find was EPSTEIN's "it" girl for sometime and that made jealous. thought that she and EPSTEIN loved each other. believed her and EPSTEIN were dating until she eventually found out his actual girlfriend was (known to law enforcement as dealt with it. She asked about it while they were on the island. told her she was ok with it. They then had an S&M situation. had a strap on; wasn't ok with it. They traveled together regularly for about a year around 2007. EPSTEIN gave barely enough to survive. He gave her enough to eat and live on but not enough to pay rent. While on the island, sometime in 2007, posted on her Myspace wall that she was "stuck on this island with a horrible girl named '. The next morning, EPSTEIN woke her up in bed and wouldn't let her get up. He was very angry and showed the message on his computer. He told her to pack up her stuff and get off of the island. was then taken to the main island on a motor boat by a man she did not know. She was then placed in a black car and taken to the airport. was scared. When she got back to New York, EPSTEIN told her to move out of the 301 East 66th Street apartment. She then moved back in with 3501.484-004 Page 3 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095980 EFTA01250054 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 conliiwmion"lFD•302of (U) Interview of .O, 10/24/2019 .ragt 4 of 8 Sometime prior to this situation, mother found something about EPSTEIN being a child molester. She was concerned for confronted EPSTEIN about it and he told her he was not one. believed him because he said the girls showed ID and they must have been fake IDs. had a similar situation and though that EPSTEIN may have done something to her. feared for life. GHISLAINE MAXWELL was a staple on the island. MAXWELL taught how to please EPSTEIN a certain way. had seen and JEAN-LUC BRUNEL on the island. Other people saw around EPSTEIN were , , IGOR, MAXWELL, the chef and his wife, and EPSTEIN would control their food portions and would send them to the gym. Or were present with and EPSTEIN during sexual encounters both at his 71st street Mansion and on the island. MAXWELL had conversations with on the island about sex and EPSTEIN and how to please him in particular. was present for one of these conversations. It meant being taken care of by him; they had to listen to what MAXWELL said on how to keep his interest. At first, thought MAXWELL was just his friend. She then thought MAXWELL was tasked to tell the girls what to do and boss them around. Everyone had to listen to MAXWELL. MAXWELL used a fist to show what type of pressure to use to please EPSTEIN only and not others. MAXWELL would show how to give blow jobs and hand jobs. EPSTEIN was not present for this conversation. MAXWELL was very in tune with his needs. and MAXWELL had a business relationship. MAXWELL trained the girls on how you talk to EPSTEIN, how you please him, where you can go on the island, and to be caretakers of EPSTEIN. MAXWELL knew EPSTEIN needed sex a lot. MAXWELL would portray that "he is a sexual being" and that "if you aren't taking care of his needs while on the island then there is no place for you here". got in trouble by MAXWELL for leaving the room right after EPSTEIN fell asleep during a massage. 3501.484-004 Page 4 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00095981 EFTA01250055 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 c onnnuabon al:D.302 0r (U) Interview of O, 10/24/2019 ft , 5 of 8 MAXWELL would train observed this. EPSTEIN would have take out her piercings. EPSTEIN would buy her particular clothes and want her to wear white underwear. MAXWELL told that EPSTEIN liked when she only wore white on the island. MAXWELL said to be obedient to EPSTEIN and take care of her body for him. EPSTEIN had thrown away one of jackets because he hated it so much. • was to dress conservatively. She would often wear trousers and blouses. EPSTEIN would have cash at the house and would pay for the massages. He started not paying for the massages unless there were sexual encounters. had also gotten paid by GROFF, BELLE KLEIN and . BELLE KLEIN also wrote checks for massage school. did not talk about sex with IGOR. talked about sex but there was no sex with her. took the girls underwear shopping and knew EPSTEIN liked white underwear. would reach out to to arrange massages sometimes. assumed that knew what was happening during the massages. EPSTEIN would grope all the girls right in front of • EPSTEIN would grab their breasts. Girls would be all over him and would see this; girls were on his lap in public and massaging his feet. GROFF would also observe some inappropriate behavior of EPSTEIN and what he would do to them. GROFF knew the girls were massaging him. On the island and in New York EPSTEIN would get multiple massages; girls would be coming and going. JEAN-LUC was on the island with young women that he knew. They would leave right after got to the island as if relieved them of their duties. The girls that were with JEAN-LUC were models that worked for him (MC SQUARED). Some spoke no English. JEAN-LUC would talk about EPSTEIN and his sexual appetite. was then asked about sexual contact she may have had with other men. The first incident was with a man named LEON BLACK. This was the first time EPSTEIN had with another man. GROFF asked to come to the mansion in New York. EPSTEIN called a "pro". He talked up to BLACK. EPSTEIN told to give BLACK a massage. had met him 3501.484-004 Page 5 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095982 EFTA01250056 FD•303a (Rev. 5.8.10) 500-NY-3027571 conliiwmionoiFD•303o1' WI Interview of O, 10/24/2019 pag, 6 of 8 before. went into the massage room and BLACK was naked. He started becoming sexual and ran out of the room. told EPSTEIN and he laughed it off. Another incident was with a man known to as JESS DALEY (later learned to be JES STALEY herein referred to as STALEY) who worked for JP MORGAN. EPSTEIN told her to give STALEY a massage in EPSTEIN's mansion. This incident occurred around 2011-2012 when was graduating from massage school. When entered the room to massage STALEY he was in his boxers on his phone on his back. asked what he wanted massaged and how and what bothered him. STALEY then gestured to his shoulders and his crotch area. then massaged his shoulders then stomach. STALEY then forcefully put her hands on his crotch area. This ended in rough sex. told STALEY she did not want this. told STALEY that EPSTEIN wouldn't like this. STALEY said "it's fine". later told EPSTEIN and she was upset about it. EPSTEIN told her that he "left it up to you guys to decide". After this, then distanced herself from EPSTEIN. This was when she realized he didn't care about her. told about these incidents. III or III may have been in the house for these incidents. massage school was paid for by EPSTEIN around that time so she was made to think she was in debt to him. felt she had to give these massages to these men. They did not pay but EPSTEIN paid for things that week. had a sexual encounter with BLACK. She told to break contact with EPSTEIN. was in the kitchen at the mansion and was there. was called up to give BLACK a massage so she went up. It was not a massage and she gave BLACK a blow job. Afterwards she wanted to wash her mouth out and was grossed out. EPSTEIN thought it was funny and he laughed about how small BLACK's penis was. laughed a bit but later on disclosed that she was not OK with what happened. JEAN-LUC brought girls. He asked EPSTEIN what he thought of specific girls on the island, not regulars. EPSTEIN stressed to find new girls, any girls, in massage school. MAXWELL may have asked if found anyone at the New York house. went with III to a night club to pick up a girl. never met this girl. The girls that were coming for massages 3501.484-004 Page 6 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095983 EFTA01250057 FD•302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 CallimaRanorFID.302of (U) Interview of O, 10/24/2019 J 7 of 8 knew they were sexual. would massage the girl and ask if she was alright. The girls would then bring other girls. Some looked really young but didn't ask. She was scared to ask their age. EPSTEIN wanted "cute girls". EPSTEIN made feel like she was ancient. III was a little older than and EPSTEIN liked that she looked like a young girl. EPSTEIN said "the younger they look the better". MAXWELL said she had gotten too old. EPSTEIN would make fun of her. MAXWELL knew EPSTEIN wanted younger girls and that he only likes younger girls. JEAN-LUC knew this too and one time on the plane he said "oh you like them young". knew there were cameras around the house and was afraid to say anything that she wouldn't say directly to EPSTEIN. was followed for a month when she didn't talk to EPSTEIN and eventually he confronted her. Prior to EPSTEIN going to jail, EPSTEIN would tell MAXWELL that she was too old. MAXWELL would say "well you like them too young". saw these interactions. They would discuss logistics about who was coming and going, and talk about JEAN-LUC bringing people. After EPSTEIN went to jail, asked to meet at the New York house to go through stuff in the basement. It was just the two of them and was paid. asked to get rid of things like vibrators and pictures of women (some of them naked). Some of these pictures kept. would pay to house clean. paid her $50 an hour which picked up from BELLA. was making the decisions on what to keep and what to throw out. They would throw out gag toys, sex toys, naked photos. They would keep things like nice art. At the time, did not think much of it. They just sorted and handled it. went to EPSTEIN's house after his arrest in Palm Beach. She thought she did the same cleaning there that she did in Manhattan. When EPSTEIN went to jail, "301" turned into an office space. There was a lot of stuff thrown out there. recalled a tall guy named RICH on the island. He would take things in and out like food, deliveries, art and sculptures. She recalled him going in and out of the security room, which was the room to the right when entering the New York house. There were lots of screens in this room. 3501.484-004 Page 7 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095984 EFTA01250058 FD•302a(Rev. 5.8.10) 500-NY-3027571 Cordimakm amma (U) Interview of .O, 10/24/2019 ,page 8 of 8 EPSTEIN told that she was not supposed to talk to anyone. said if someone (press) approached her don't say anything. had never been interviewed by law enforcement before this interview. EPSTEIN had weird relationships with people who were professionals and lawyers like ALAN DERSHOWITZ. met NAOMI CAMPBELL and WOODY ALLEN. A guy named LES that EPSTEIN talked to on the phone during massages worked with EPSTEIN but the calls seemed personal. did not visit EPSTEIN in jail. She did see him during house arrest. would keep passport while on the island and wasn't given it back. This was every time they went. When they got on the plane would take the passport. If was not there then III would take it. would keep it until they landed back in New York. felt like she couldn't leave. When she would ask when they were leaving she would say that it was up to EPSTEIN. If asked if she could leave on an earlier flight, would say, "No, I don't think that's a good idea". kept all of the passports including EPSTEIN's. The first time asked for it back said she would hold onto it. Recent regulars that EPSTEIN had between 2011-2013 was who brought girls and called after EPSTEIN was arrested in July. She didn't respond. texted her with no response. A private investigator contacted to see if she had any information. He said he was working for EPSTEIN and his lawyer. told him to call . His name is FRANK SENERCHIA and her attorneys provided a photograph in which there are two girls in the picture with and that looked young. does not know who they were and can't remember their names. 3501.484-004 Page 8 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00095985 EFTA01250059