EFTA00158859.pdf
SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
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F0.302 (Rev. 5-11-I0)
FEDERAL. BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Dakamin• 09/14/2021
was interviewed over video conference by AUSA
, Detective and Special Agent
After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals
and the nature of the interview, provided the following information:
worked for JEFFREY EPSTEIN (EPSTEIN) around 2001. She would go there
when no one else was there with
She would go when EPSTEIN or GHISLAINE MAXWELL
(MAXWELL) were not there. would watch the house keepers, water the
plants, put out new tooth brushes, clean and gas the cars. Illilliould also
take phone calls.
**
ould go there for several weeks at a time.
had previously spoken with the FBI about this case.
The couple that took care of the house lived in the guest house.
Around 2003 they called back At that time
realized it was too much so she stopped going back.
only met EPSTEIN about 1 or 2 times.
They hired o make sure that the house keeper did not steal.
New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video
kwmananm 06/30/2021 at Interview))
hkN SOD-NY-3027571 Iktedraffia 07/20/2021
by
This document contains neither recommendations nor conelusiorts ofMe FBI. It is the property or the FIB and is loaned to your agency; it and itscontents are not
to be distributed unto& you: agency.
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EFTA00158859
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
SOD-NY-3027571
cmgiums m ofFwin a (U) Interview 0 ,On 06/30/2021 ,page 2 of 4
There would be $100's of dollars out on the counter whenilillillas there.
M called over.
ould put the money in the drawer if the air condition guy would get
took messages when the phone rang. s a perfectionist. If the
messages weren't perfect, then she would crumble them up and throw them in
the garbage.
being at EPSTEIN's house and with the
wooden spoons in the kitchen. Some of the spoons got broken.
recalls the laundry room was right outside in the guest house.
Sometimes she would help FRANCINE, the housekeeper, fold towels while she
was there.
does not remember there being any torture chamber upstairs.
recalls the house being upstairs but does not recall what street it
was on.
jot the job through a friend. She recalls telling that friend that
she needed a job in which she could bring her son with her.
MAXWELL called and hired recalls MAXWELL taking upstairs
to her closet. MAXWELL told hat if any girl came there to not let
them wear her clothes.
MAXWELL trained
On one occasion there was a gas leak in the house so knew to hit the
button on the phone that said "New York called and someone answered
and called the gas guy. MAXWELL told about this "New York" button for
direct access to New York.
was always called when the air-conditioning guy or the housekeeper
would be there. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN did not want things fixed while they
were at the house.
MAXWELL told that if the phone rings to take a message on the message
pad. The pad had white and blue letters, said messages and had lines.
3517-004
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SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007996
EFTA00158860
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
500—NY-3027571
Cominualicm of F06302 of (U) Interview of NICOLE HESSE .On 06/30/2021 ,pae 3 of 4
If the phone rang while was there she would answer it.
recalled that a girl called once and asked if EPSTEIN was in town.
said no. The girl was frantic and asked when he would be in town and
stated that she did not know.
Once EPSTEIN came to the house with lots of girls and bags. said
hello and then left.
Girls and important people would call. She recalls a female voice asking
when is he coming back. This one call stuck out to IIIIIIIHever made
calls to other people.
met a chef once.
She met FRANCINE the house keeper and the air-conditioning guy.
Agent Note: At this point in the interview AUSA III shared her screen to
show a portion of the message pads (#2) see attached.
notices that to the left she recognizes "Nicole Hesse" on the bottom.
■ states the context of the messages did not mean anythin
then but she does recognize her handwriting and signature.
to her back
states
"that's my signature for sure". states that she just wrote whatever
he said and does not know what the message was about. recognize
her handwriting.
states that she met MAXWELL in persons about 2 times. The first time
was the "closet incident". The second time was a random time that MAXWELL
came home when was there.
only spoke with MAXWELL about 2 times.
felt that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were obviously boyfriend and
girlfriend. They had a weird relationship because MAXWELL had mentioned not
letting girls wear her clothes.
FRANCINE tells that EPSTEIN is really healthy and he doesn't do drugs
or drink. hought maybe EPSTEIN was a good guy.
opped working there
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SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007997
EFTA00158861
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
500-NY-3027571
(U) Interview of
Continumion of FD•302 of 06/30/2021 h p 4 of 4
Years ago people from the media called bout the case.
M a
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SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007998
EFTA00158862
-1 of 4 -
F0.302 (Rev. 5-11-I0)
FEDERAL. BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Dakamin• 09/14/2021
was interviewed over video conference by AUSA
, Detective and Special Agent
After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals
and the nature of the interview, provided the following information:
worked for JEFFREY EPSTEIN (EPSTEIN) around 2001. She would go there
when no one else was there with
She would go when EPSTEIN or GHISLAINE MAXWELL
(MAXWELL) were not there. would watch the house keepers, water the
plants, put out new tooth brushes, clean and gas the cars. Illilliould also
take phone calls.
**
ould go there for several weeks at a time.
had previously spoken with the FBI about this case.
The couple that took care of the house lived in the guest house.
Around 2003 they called back At that time
realized it was too much so she stopped going back.
only met EPSTEIN about 1 or 2 times.
They hired o make sure that the house keeper did not steal.
New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video
kwmananm 06/30/2021 at Interview))
hkN SOD-NY-3027571 Iktedraffia 07/20/2021
by
This document contains neither recommendations nor conelusiorts ofMe FBI. It is the property or the FIB and is loaned to your agency; it and itscontents are not
to be distributed unto& you: agency.
3517-004
Page I of4
SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007995
EFTA00158859
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
SOD-NY-3027571
cmgiums m ofFwin a (U) Interview 0 ,On 06/30/2021 ,page 2 of 4
There would be $100's of dollars out on the counter whenilillillas there.
M called over.
ould put the money in the drawer if the air condition guy would get
took messages when the phone rang. s a perfectionist. If the
messages weren't perfect, then she would crumble them up and throw them in
the garbage.
being at EPSTEIN's house and with the
wooden spoons in the kitchen. Some of the spoons got broken.
recalls the laundry room was right outside in the guest house.
Sometimes she would help FRANCINE, the housekeeper, fold towels while she
was there.
does not remember there being any torture chamber upstairs.
recalls the house being upstairs but does not recall what street it
was on.
jot the job through a friend. She recalls telling that friend that
she needed a job in which she could bring her son with her.
MAXWELL called and hired recalls MAXWELL taking upstairs
to her closet. MAXWELL told hat if any girl came there to not let
them wear her clothes.
MAXWELL trained
On one occasion there was a gas leak in the house so knew to hit the
button on the phone that said "New York called and someone answered
and called the gas guy. MAXWELL told about this "New York" button for
direct access to New York.
was always called when the air-conditioning guy or the housekeeper
would be there. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN did not want things fixed while they
were at the house.
MAXWELL told that if the phone rings to take a message on the message
pad. The pad had white and blue letters, said messages and had lines.
3517-004
Page 2 of4
SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007996
EFTA00158860
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
500—NY-3027571
Cominualicm of F06302 of (U) Interview of NICOLE HESSE .On 06/30/2021 ,pae 3 of 4
If the phone rang while was there she would answer it.
recalled that a girl called once and asked if EPSTEIN was in town.
said no. The girl was frantic and asked when he would be in town and
stated that she did not know.
Once EPSTEIN came to the house with lots of girls and bags. said
hello and then left.
Girls and important people would call. She recalls a female voice asking
when is he coming back. This one call stuck out to IIIIIIIHever made
calls to other people.
met a chef once.
She met FRANCINE the house keeper and the air-conditioning guy.
Agent Note: At this point in the interview AUSA III shared her screen to
show a portion of the message pads (#2) see attached.
notices that to the left she recognizes "Nicole Hesse" on the bottom.
■ states the context of the messages did not mean anythin
then but she does recognize her handwriting and signature.
to her back
states
"that's my signature for sure". states that she just wrote whatever
he said and does not know what the message was about. recognize
her handwriting.
states that she met MAXWELL in persons about 2 times. The first time
was the "closet incident". The second time was a random time that MAXWELL
came home when was there.
only spoke with MAXWELL about 2 times.
felt that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were obviously boyfriend and
girlfriend. They had a weird relationship because MAXWELL had mentioned not
letting girls wear her clothes.
FRANCINE tells that EPSTEIN is really healthy and he doesn't do drugs
or drink. hought maybe EPSTEIN was a good guy.
opped working there
3517-004
Page 3 of 4
SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007997
EFTA00158861
FD.302e (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 626
500-NY-3027571
(U) Interview of
Continumion of FD•302 of 06/30/2021 h p 4 of 4
Years ago people from the media called bout the case.
M a
3517-004
Page 4 of4
SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17
EFTA_00007998
EFTA00158862