Re: Proposed response to upcoming State Dept disclosure on Sid emails

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heard back. They're not ready yet, so this will now be this afternoon at the earliest, possibly tomorrow. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Nick Merrill <[email protected]> wrote: > Got it. > > I'm waiting for a callback from State, but plan is still to lay this our > for a reporter with them and for them to turn over the documents later this > morning. > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Cheryl Mills <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think the point can be made via noting that Sid was not a federal >> employee as needed (which as FYI means his emails only b/came federal >> records if used in the course of Dept business - so some were if forwarded >> and acted on and some weren't if nothing was done with them). But not sure >> it is worth the technical debate. >> >> So in your if pushed, you could say: >> >> *With regard to his materials, remember, Sid was never a federal employee*. >> We do not know what these materials are, or where they came from. Just take >> a look at them: many of the documents are not even formatted as emails. >> >> But even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at some point >> sent to Clinton, there is nothing in any of these emails that is >> remotely new or interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are >> qualitatively different than the dozens of others that Hillary already >> produced to the State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest >> that there might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete >> any of Sid's correspondence. >> >> >> >> cdm >> >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Heather Samuelson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I defer to CDM and David on if/how we want to address this. >> >> There was concern re prior language that I relayed to Brian and Nick. >> >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Jennifer Palmieri < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Shouldn't we also add somewhere that Sid was not s government employee >> and these aren't federal records? >> >> Heather -State would not consider these records, correct? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Brian Fallon <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Based on conversations today, below is the finalized version of the >> response plan: >> >> *Q: The State Department says that at least 16 of the emails >> that Sid Blumenthal turned over to the Benghazi Select Committee were not >> included in the 55,000 pages of materials produced by Hillary Clinton. >> Doesn't this prove that Hillary Clinton deleted certain emails at some >> point before producing them to the Department?* >> >> *ON-THE-RECORD RESPONSE FROM SPOKESMAN NICK MERRILL:* >> >> "Hillary Clinton has turned over 55,000 pages of materials to the State >> Department, including all emails in her possession from Mr. Blumenthal." >> >> *ADDITIONAL POINTS ON BACKGROUND FROM CLINTON AIDE:* >> >> Not only did Clinton turn over all emails that she has from Blumenthal, >> she actually turned over more than a dozen emails that were not included in >> what Mr. Blumenthal handed over to the House committee. >> >> We do not have a record of other correspondence between Mrs. Clinton >> and Mr. Blumenthal beyond that which was turned over to the State >> Department. In terms of the documents provided by Mr. Blumenthal to the >> House committee, we do not recognize many of those materials and cannot >> speak to their origin. >> >> *OFF RECORD, if pressed on whether we are essentially admitting the >> possibility that she deleted some emails:* >> >> Look, we do not know what these materials are, or where they came from. >> Just take a look at them: many of the documents are not even formatted as >> emails. >> >> But even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at some point >> sent to Clinton, there is nothing in any of these emails that is >> remotely new or interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are >> qualitatively different than the dozens of others that Hillary already >> produced to the State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest >> that there might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete >> any of Sid's correspondence. >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Heather Samuelson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for update Nick >>> >>> Brian -- I will call you on this. Recommend removing section re Sid >>> not being a federal employee. >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Nick Merrill <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Just spoke to State a little more about this. A few updates. >>> >>> 1. The plan at the moment is for them to do this tomorrow, first thing >>> in the morning. >>> >>> 2. What that means specifically is that they are going to turn over >>> all the Blumenthal emails to the Committee that they hav along with some >>> other HRC emails that include a slightly broader set of search terms than >>> the original batch. That of course includes the emails Sid turned over >>> that HRC didn't, which will make clear to them that she didn't have them in >>> the first place, deleted them, or didn't turn them over. It also includes >>> emails that HRC had that Sid didn't, as Brian noted. >>> >>> 3. They do not plan to release anything publicly, so no posting online >>> or anything public-facing, just to the committee. That said, they are >>> considering placing a story with a friendly at the AP (Matt Lee or Bradley >>> Klapper), that would lay this out before the majority on the committee has >>> a chance to realize what they have and distort it. >>> >>> On that last piece, we think it would make sense to work with State >>> and the AP to deploy the below. So assuming everyone is in agreement we'll >>> proceed. It would be good to frame this a little, and frankly to have it >>> break tomorrow when we'll likely be close to or in the midst of a SCOTUS >>> decision taking over the news hyenas. >>> >>> Will keep everyone posted if anything changes, including the timing. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Brian Fallon < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> All - In preparation for the possibility that the State Department >>>> may acknowledge as soon as today that there were 16 Sid emails missing from >>>> the 55k pages of material produced by HRC, I wanted to circulate the below >>>> draft plan for responding to the inquiries that Nick will get. Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Q: The State Department says that at least 16 of the emails >>>> that Sid Blumenthal turned over to the Benghazi Select Committee were not >>>> included in the 55,000 pages of materials produced by Hillary Clinton. >>>> Doesn't this prove that Hillary Clinton deleted certain emails at some >>>> point before producing them to the Department?* >>>> >>>> *ON-THE-RECORD RESPONSE FROM SPOKESMAN NICK MERRILL:* >>>> >>>> "Hillary Clinton has turned over 55,000 pages of materials to the >>>> State Department, including all emails in her possession from Mr. >>>> Blumenthal." >>>> >>>> *ADDITIONAL POINTS ON BACKGROUND FROM CLINTON AIDE:* >>>> >>>> Not only did Clinton turn over all emails that she has from >>>> Blumenthal, she actually turned over more than a dozen emails that were not >>>> included in what Mr. Blumenthal handed over to the House committee. >>>> >>>> We do not have a record of other correspondence between Mrs. Clinton >>>> and Mr. Blumenthal beyond that which was turned over to the State >>>> Department. In terms of the documents provided by Mr. Blumenthal to the >>>> House committee, we do not recognize many of those materials and cannot >>>> speak to their origin. >>>> >>>> *OFF RECORD, if pressed on whether we are essentially admitting the >>>> possibility that she deleted some emails:* >>>> >>>> Look, we do not know what these materials are, or where they came >>>> from. Just take a look at them: many of the documents are not even >>>> formatted as emails. >>>> >>>> For all we know, it could be that, in the course of reproducing his >>>> emails after his account was hacked, Sid misremembered which memos he >>>> actually forwarded to her and which he did not. >>>> >>>> And hey, even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at >>>> some point sent to Clinton, this is unremarkable anyway for two key reasons: >>>> >>>> One, she would have been under no obligation to preserve them since >>>> Blumenthal wasn't a government employee. >>>> >>>> Two, there is nothing in any of these emails that is remotely new or >>>> interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are qualtitatively >>>> different than the dozens of others that Hillary already produced to the >>>> State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest that there >>>> might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete any of Sid's >>>> correspondence. >>>> >>> >>> >> >