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Filing and Security
Primary Case: 72•1/M•113327 Case Title:
Serial Number. 53
Serialized: 11/16/2010
Category: Full Investigation
Initiated: 10/28/2009
Details
Serial X: 53 Type: F0302
From: To: MIAMI
Document Title: ROBERT COUTURIER
Approval Date: 11/16/2010
Classification: SN
Contents
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ROBERT COUTURIER
was interviewed at his design studio at
above listed location. After being advised of the identity of the
interviewing agent, and the nature of the interview. COUTURIER
provided the following information:
COUTURIER first met JEFFREY EPSTEIN sometime between
1985.1988 and he was introduced to EPSTEIN by YSABEL GOL r SMITH. At
that time, EPSTEIN was looking for a designer to decorate his pla
located at 9 East 71st Street, Manhattan. NY COUTURIER was
interviewed for the lob but EPSTEIN did not hire him on that
occasion.
COUTURIER and EPSTEIN travel in the same social circles
and there is a lot of gossip surrounding EPSTEIN The talk is
mostly about how much he enjoys the company of young girls an•
women COUTURIER stated that EPSTEIN always made him feel
uncomfortable and strange when he was around him so COUTUR ER was
fnendly and courteous to him but does not consider EPSTEIN his
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friend.
There is no doubt that EPSTEIN is very intelligent and
can carry a conversation about any subject but there is something
about him that is weird and °totaling He is incredibly wealthy
and COUTURIER believes that most people around him do not talk too
much about him because that type of wealth usually buys power.
Although people might have information about EPSTEIN they might be
reluctant to talk; it is easier to excuse his bad behavior or turn
a blind eye to it
COUTURIER stated that about six or seven months ago a
woman by the name of-, who is EPSTEIN's assistant.
called him and asked If he would consider taking on the challenge
of decorating EPSTEIN's place in Manhattan and if he would also
consider decorating his place in the US Virgin Islands (USVI)
COUTURIER advised these are just two of the homes he currently owns
but EPSTEIN also has an apartment in Pans, France and a huge ranch
somewhere in the Midwest in the U.S.
COUTURIER stated that by this time, he had heard of
EPSTEIN's incarceration and thought that EPSTEIN had "paid his debt
to society" and maybe things had changed with him so he went into
the meeting trying to be objective. EPSTEIN also stated that to be
honest, he would be making a lot of money if he took the project.
The first meeting took place sometime in Apnl or May
2010 and EPSTEIN's assistant, showed him the over/0
plans of the USVI house. Although EPSTEIN was supposed to attend
the meeting he could not make it sonEhandled
Ten days later, EPSTEIN. and his other assistant
LESLIE LAST NAME UNKNOWN (LNU) all flew from Palm Beach. FL to the
house on the USVI after the initial meeting.
Sometime in June 2010. COUTURIER and EPSTEIN plus his
assistants, flew to the USVI on EPSTEIN's private plane. They took
it from Palm Beach to the island and stayed there for a day and a
half. EPSTEIN was very excited and appeared to be like a kid with
a new toy. COUTURIER recalls that EPSTEIN kept the house very cold
and his bedroom was white but had no lights in the room. it was
dark and very austere. The focal point of the room was an enormous
bed.
EPSTEIN also showed him another room in which he wanted
to place four beds and wanted to have it decorated in a very
colorful palette for his girls EPSTEIN told COUTURIER turn that he
does not have any friends and that he does not really like people.
EPSTEIN stated that he has girls coming to spend time with him in
the island. EPSTEIN then lamented that "the girls* are only
interested in Facebook and MySpace and that he wanted the space in
this bedroom to be comfortable and have access to the Internet as
they were online so much COUTURIER did not ask how old these
girls were or anything about them. He did not ask him any personal
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COUTURIER stated that on the tight back he grew
increasingly uncomfortable. Although he did not see any of the
young girls that EPSTEIN was talking about he was not sure if he
could do this job for him. COUTURIER added that every time he met
with EPSTEIN he had his assistants there who are all very
attractive young women and others unknown to him but all appeared
to be over the age of 18.
EPSTEIN also showed COUTURIER his home on 71th street in
Manhattan. NY as he wanted him to decorate that place also.
COUTURIER showed him a massage room where he had photographs
("artistic renditions" according to COUTURIER) of young women in
the nude, ranging from age 15 through 20 all hanging from the walls
of this massage room. COUTURIER did not ask him any questions
about ths room and moved on to the rest of the house.
COUTURIER then came back to New York and started out
drawing plans and although he did not have a contract, EPSTEIN did
give him a check for $50.000.80 as a deposit for his services.
COUTURIER stated that his plans went back and forth
between his offices and EPSTEIN's people but EPSTEIN never seemed
happy. COUTURIER sent some of his associates back to the USVI to
take measurements and adjust his plans and EPSTEIN was pleased in
some aspects but was still highly critical.
COUTURIER then deoded that this was not the right job
for him. COUTURIER stated that in the back of his mind. he wanted
to have "a way our should he decide that he could not work with
EPSTEIN which was why he did not have a formal contract signed
EPSTEIN was very diffiailt to work with and COUTURIER found that
EPSTEIN had not changed his pattern of behavior obviously if he was
having the home in the USVI decorated for girls to stay with him.
This did not sit wet with COUTURIER. He then wrote EPSTEIN a note
apologizing for not being able to take on this job. COUTURIER
Stated that he could not just drop everything or any of his
projects whenever EPSTEIN wanted him at the site (USVI). EPSTEIN
was very persistent but COUTURIER was firm in his decision.
In July 2010, EPSTEIN tried to sue him tor his deposit
and he has many attorneys at his disposal who are very aggressive
COUTURIER'S attomey stated that if they decided to litigate this
case, it was going to be a long process. COUTURIER decided to
settle and retumed $15,000.00 to EPSTEIN to save himself the
hassle of litigation.
COUTURIER stated that EPSTEIN and were a couple but
had broken up. At one point COUTURIER had spoken to
about her breakup with EPSTEIN_ She told him. "I have seen him do
homfic things" but d:d not elaborate. is still his
assistant and they are on friendly terms COUTURIER stated he
believed that although very pretty, was now too old for
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EPSTEIN even though she is in her 30s
COUTURIER stated there are people in New York who are
outraged about EPSTEIN's lenient sentence for his sex trafficking
charges. One person who has followed the story and written about
JEFFREY COUTURIER is CONCHITA SARNOFF, writer for The Beast"
online newspaper, phone number AMY FIENNE-COLLINS
also wrote an article tor 'Vanty Fair on child prostitution but
the article met with much resistance.
COUTURIER concluded by saying that although this would
job would have generated a lot of income for his company, he simply
could not do it and although he med to remain objective, his
conscience would not let him continue this project.
COUTURIER provided the following information regarding
JEFFREY EPSTEIN's contacts.
ASSISTANTS
LESLIE LNU 212-249-1113 (NY)
BRICE LNU
OTHER EMPLOYEES.
RICHARD BARNETT (Butler in NY)
DARREN INDYKE (Attorney)
RICH KAHN
(Accountant)
COUTURIER also provided the following information for
JEFFREY EPSTEIN.
New York Residence. 9 East 71st Street
New York, NY
Palm Beach Residence 358 El Bulb Way
Palm Beach. FL 33480
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