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Re: 'This Week' Transcript: 'Clinton Cash’ Author Peter Schweizer
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Not to pile on, but this is therapeutic to watch. George is cool as a
cucumber, doesn't rush into it, but just destroys him slowly but surely
over the course of the interview, culminating when he asks him about A/S
Fernandez confirming that HRC had absolutely nothing to do with the Uranium
1 deal.
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Karen Finney <[email protected]>
wrote:
> It was beautiful to watch
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Jennifer Palmieri <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> This is amazing. A pleasure to read.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Jesse Ferguson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> great work everyone. this interview is perfect. he lands nothing and
> everything is refuted (mostly based on our work)
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Josh Schwerin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 'This Week' Transcript: 'Clinton Cash’ Author Peter Schweizer
>> Apr 26, 2015, 9:34 AM ET
>>
>> *This is a rush transcript for April 26, 2015. It will be updated and may
>> contain errors.*
>>
>>
>> *http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-clinton-cash-author-peter-schweizer/story?id=30568766&singlePage=true
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-clinton-cash-author-peter-schweizer/story?id=30568766&singlePage=true>*
>>
>> GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, HOST: And the author of "Clinton Clash," Peter
>> Schweizer, joins us now.
>>
>> Thank you for joining us this morning, Peter.
>>
>> You know, I was looking at the book jacket right here and you say that,
>> here in the book jacket that your reporting raises serious and alarming
>> questions about judgment of possible indebtedness to an array of foreign
>> interests and ultimately, a fitness for high public office.
>>
>> So how does your reporting show that Hillary Clinton
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/whitehouse/hillary-clinton.htm> may
>> be unfit for the presidency?
>>
>> PETER SCHWEIZER, AUTHOR, "CLINTON CLASH": Well, I think the real question
>> here, George, is when you ever have an issue of the flow of funds to
>> political candidates, whether that's to their campaigns, whether that's to
>> private foundations, whether that's to their spouse, is there evidence of a
>> pattern of -- of favorable decisions being made for those individuals?
>>
>> And I think the -- the point that we make in the book is that there is a
>> troubling pattern.
>>
>> There are dozens of examples of that occurring.
>>
>> Some people, I think particularly the Clinton camp, would say that these
>> are all coincidence. I don't think, when you're talking about 12 instances,
>> you're talking coincidence. I think you're talking trend.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But you take it pretty far. You write that, "The pattern
>> of behavior is troubling enough to warrant further investigation by law
>> enforcement (INAUDIBLE)."..
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you have any evidence that a crime may have been
>> committed?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think it's -- if you look at a couple of recent
>> examples. For example, Governor McConnell down in Virginia, or you look at Senator
>> Menendez <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/robert-menendez.htm>, in
>> these cases, you didn't have evidence of a quid pro quo. What you had was
>> funds flowing to elected officials, some of them gifts, some of them
>> campaign contributions and actions that were being taken by those public
>> officials that seemed to benefit the contributors.
>>
>> Certainly, I think it warrants investigation. What that investigation
>> will reveal, we'll see.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But a criminal investigation?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, we'll see. I mean that's what the Governor McConnell has
>> faced and that's what Menendez has faced.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But the...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: And I think the evidence here is far more widespread in terms
>> of repeated action than there were in those two instances.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, the Clinton campaign says you haven't
>> produced a shred of evidence that there was any official action as
>> secretary that -- that supported the interests of donors.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: We've done investigative work here at ABC News, found no
>> proof of any kind of direct action. And an independent government ethics
>> expert, Bill Allison, of the Sunline Foundation (ph), wrote this. He said,
>> "There's no smoking gun, no evidence that she changed the policy based on
>> donations to the foundation."
>>
>> No smoking gun.
>>
>> Is there a smoking gun?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Yes. The smoking gun is in the pattern of behavior. And here's
>> the analogy I would give you. It's a little bit like insider trading
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/business/insider-trading.htm>. I wrote a
>> book on Congressional insider trading a couple of years ago and talked with
>> prosecutors.
>>
>> Most people that engage in criminal insider trading don't send an e-mail
>> that says I've got inside information, buy this stock.
>>
>> The way they look at it, they look at a pattern of stock trades. If the
>> person has access to that information and then they do a series of
>> well-timed trades. That warrants investigation.
>>
>> I think the same thing applies here.
>>
>> By the way, what's important to note is it was confirmed on Thursday,
>> both by "The New York Times" and "The Wall Street Journal
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/business/the-wall-street-journal.htm>,"
>> that there are multi-million dollar, non-disclosed donations that were made
>> to the Clinton Foundation
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/clinton-foundation.htm> that
>> were never disclosed by the Clintons.
>>
>> This is a direct breach of an agreement they suggested with the White
>> House.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: That -- that is an issue for them, but it's not a
>> criminal -- it's nothing that would warrant a cmii.
>>
>> So let's look at some of the specifics behind your pattern.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Sure.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: A lot of focus on the sale of a company, Uranium One, to
>> a -- to a Russian <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/russia.htm>company.
>> Of course, Frank Drisdra (ph), who had committed, what, a $130 million, a
>> pledge to the Clinton Foundation back in 2006, had had an interest in this
>> company.
>>
>> But he actually sold it.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, he sold his stock, but his firm, Endeavor Financial,
>> continued to do finance deals well after that. And the individuals involved
>> in the book, as you probably read, there are nine -- count them, nine major
>> contributors to the Clinton Foundation who were involved in that nuclear
>> deal.
>>
>> The two individuals who were the financial advisers on the deal of the
>> sale to the Russians, they're both major Clinton Foundation supporters. The
>> chairman of that Foundation, Ian Telfer, whose donations were not
>> disclosed, campaign -- and sorry, Clinton Foundation contributor. And there
>> are others.
>>
>> So this is not just about Frank Giustra. This is multiple layers
>> (INAUDIBLE)...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: OK, but you didn't disclose in your book that he had sold
>> the interest.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Yes.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Beyond that, this deal was approved by a -- a board of
>> the government called the CFIUS Board.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: This actually chaired by the secretary of the Treasury...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- not the secretary of State.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Eight other agencies on board, the secretary of State,
>> Homeland Security, Defense, Commerce...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- signed off on it. And even though the State Department
>> was one of nine agencies to sign off on it, there's no evidence at all that
>> Hillary Clinton got directly involved in this decision.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think it warrants further investigation. And there's a
>> couple of things that need to be clarified.
>>
>> Number one, she was one vote -- or the State Department was one vote on
>> CFIUS. But any agency has veto power. So it needs to be unanimous. So they
>> had to support this agreement.
>>
>> The second thing that I would say is that in the midst of all of this,
>> Hillary Clinton was in charge of the Russian reset. She was in charge of --
>> in -- of the A123 nuclear agreements with the Russians. She was the one
>> that was meeting with Lavrov. There were four senior congressmen on
>> national security issues that raised concerns about this issue...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But wait a second. There were nine different agencies...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Sure.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- who approved it.
>>
>> Doesn't that suggest that that was because there was no national security
>> concern, not because of some nefarious influence by Hillary Clinton?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: But -- but look at the nine individuals that were on the CFIUS
>> committee, the nine agencies represented.
>>
>> Who was, by far, the most hawkish on CFIUS issues in the past?
>>
>> Hillary Clinton. She was big on rejecting the Dubai ports deal. She was
>> big on other issues. She sponsored legislation when she was in the Senate
>> to straighten CFIUS.
>>
>> This was a signature issue for her and this is totally out of character...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But the assistant secretary who sat -- the assistant
>> secretary of State who sat on the committee said she never intervened on
>> any CFIUS issue at all.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think that deserves further scrutiny. I would question
>> that.
>>
>> To argue that (INAUDIBLE)...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: But based on what?
>>
>> Based on what?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think based on her (INAUDIBLE)...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you have any evidence that she actually intervened in
>> this issue?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: No, we don't have direct evidence. But it warrants further
>> investigation because, again, George, this is part of the broader pattern.
>> You either have to come to the conclusion that these are all coincidences
>> or something else is afoot.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: And that -- that is that -- the Clintons do say it's a
>> coincidence. As they say, you have produced no evidence. And I still
>> haven't heard any direct evidence and you just said you had no evidence
>> that she intervened here.
>>
>> But I do want to ask a broader question.
>>
>> It's been reported that you -- you briefed several Republicans on the
>> Senate Foreign Relations Committee, including the chairman, Bob Corker.
>>
>> Did you offer any briefings for Democrats?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: No, but I'd be glad to give them before the book is released.
>> This was a -- a friend that asked me. He thought it would be a good idea to
>> talk to these individuals. This was the committee that confirmed her.
>>
>> And I was glad to meet with them. They did not get copies of the book.
>> They did not get any material. It was simply a verbal briefing.
>>
>> And I'd be glad to brief any Democrats before May 5th, when the book
>> comes out.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, the Democrats have said this is -- this is
>> an indication of your partisan interest. They say...
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- you used to work for President -- President Bush as a
>> speechwriter. You're funded by the Koch brothers.
>>
>> How do you respond to that?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, George, what did I do when this book was completed?
>>
>> I went to the investigative unit at "The New York Times," the
>> investigative unit here at ABC. I went to the investigative unit at "The
>> Washington Post." And I shared with them my findings, OK. These are not
>> cupcakes. These are serious researchers and investigators.
>>
>> And they are confirming what I've reported. So people can look at the
>> facts and...
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: They haven't come -- they haven't confirmed any evidence
>> of any crime.
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: Well, but -- but it's not up to an author to prove crime. I
>> mean do you think that when people first started looking at Governor
>> McConnell or they started looking at Menendez, that they immediately had
>> evidence?
>>
>> You need subpoena power. You need access to records and information. You
>> need access to e-mails.
>>
>> There's all sorts of things that you can do. You can't leave it up to an
>> author to say that an author has to prove a criminal case.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, Bloomberg News is reporting that you're going to
>> be looking into Jeb Bush's business dealings, as well.
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> What have you found?
>>
>> Where and when will you publish?
>>
>> SCHWEIZER: We've been working on it for about four months. We've been
>> looking at land deals. We've been looking at an airport deal. We've been
>> looking at some financial transactions involving hedge funds based out of
>> the UK.
>>
>> We have already reached out to several media outlets and we're going to
>> adopt a similar model that we have here, which is to share that information
>> with investigative journalists at established news outlets, share with them
>> that information.
>>
>> And I think that people will find it very, very interesting and
>> compelling.
>>
>> Peter Schweizer, thanks very much.
>>
>> STEPHANOPOULOS: Thanks for having me, George.
>>
>> Up next, the roundtable on this Hillary book and augways (ph) from the
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>>
>> Plus, same-sex marriage coming to the Supreme Court this week.
>>
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>> We debate the next frontier in civil rights.
>>
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