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http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2008/07/mccain-doesnt-u.html McCain doesn't understand Iraq war history, says "we were greeted as liberators" Posted by Max Bergmann On ABC's This Week, McCain when pressed by George Stephanopoulos whether Obama was right about invading Iraq, scoffed saying, "we were greeted as liberators." This just adds to the evidence of last week that John McCain doesn't understand the history of what's happened in Iraq. So McCain now thinks that everything went as expected during the invasion that in fact American troops were greeted as liberators. One has to wonder if McCain's memory is really that bad. If McCain really believes that U.S. forces were greeted as liberators, as he and Cheney, predicted, then he clearly has no understanding of what actually happened in Iraq. In fact, during the initial phase of the war U.S. forces encountered tougher resistance than expected and the cheering crowds failed to materialize. Max Boot, McCain's own military adviser, said at the time that the idea we would be greeted as liberators"might have been wishful thinking." [Boston Globe, 3/28/03]The Philly Inquirer said that one top administration official "almost every assumption the plan's based on looks to be wrong." The administration was expecting a WWII type toppling, but instead Saddam's forces blended in with the population providing unexpected resistance that laid the ground work for the coming insurgency.While the battle for Baghdad did not materialize and the city fell quickly the result was chaos, not parades of liberation. While McCain was praising Bush and Rumsfeld, the Boston Globe noted on April 20, 2003 that, More than a week into "Phase 4" - the reconstruction of Iraq, the centerpiece of the military's effort to be seen as liberators and not conquerors - life in Baghdad has decidedly not returned to normal. In all levels of society, from those who openly embrace American military rule to fundamentalist Shi'ites who seek to replace Saddam Hussein with an Islamic government, people here are expressing swelling suspicion of America's motives. At night, the capital's residents listen to a cacophony of gunfire in total darkness, unless they have generators. People beg journalists for phones, because they have had none since US forces started bombing Baghdad. Government buildings still smolder and hospitals turn away patients, even though by the end of last week, US troops belatedly began guarding crucial public buildings - most of which already had been looted. July 27, 2008 at 08:09 AM | Permalink --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "big campaign" group. To post to this group, send to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] E-mail [email protected] with questions or concerns This is a list of individuals. 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This just adds to the evidence of last week that John McCain doesn= 't understand the history of what's happened in Iraq. So McCain now thinks that everything went as expected during the invasion t= hat in fact American troops were greeted as liberators. One has to wonder i= f McCain's memory is really that bad. If McCain really believes that U.S. f= orces were greeted as liberators, as he and Cheney, predicted, then he clea= rly has no understanding of what actually happened in Iraq. In fact, during the initial phase of the war U.S. forces encountered toughe= r resistance than expected and the cheering crowds failed to materialize. M= ax Boot, McCain's own military adviser, said at the time that the idea we w= ould be greeted as liberators"might have been wishful thinking." [Boston Gl= obe, 3/28/03]The Philly Inquirer said that one top administration official = "almost every assumption the plan's based on looks to be wrong." The admini= stration was expecting a WWII type toppling, but instead Saddam's forces bl= ended in with the population providing unexpected resistance that laid the = ground work for the coming insurgency.While the battle for Baghdad did not = materialize and the city fell quickly the result was chaos, not parades of = liberation. While McCain was praising Bush and Rumsfeld, the Boston Globe n= oted on April 20, 2003 that, More than a week into "Phase 4" - the reconstruction of Iraq, the cente= rpiece of the military's effort to be seen as liberators and not conquerors= - life in Baghdad has decidedly not returned to normal. In all levels of s= ociety, from those who openly embrace American military rule to fundamental= ist Shi'ites who seek to replace Saddam Hussein with an Islamic government,= people here are expressing swelling suspicion of America's motives. At nig= ht, the capital's residents listen to a cacophony of gunfire in total darkn= ess, unless they have generators. People beg journalists for phones, becaus= e they have had none since US forces started bombing Baghdad. Government bu= ildings still smolder and hospitals turn away patients, even though by the = end of last week, US troops belatedly began guarding crucial public buildin= gs - most of which already had been looted. July 27, 2008 at 08:09 AM | Permalink --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "big campaign" = group. To post to this group, send to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] E-mail [email protected] with questions or concerns =20 This is a list of individuals. It is not affiliated with any group or organ= ization. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
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