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09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 01 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA CASE NO. 08-CIV-80893 MARR/JOHNSON JANE DOE, Plaintiff, vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. 1263 S.W. 21st Terrace Miami, Florida 33145 Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:06 p.m. SWORN STATEMENT OF Taken before ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, pursuant to Notice of Taking Unsworn Statement in the above cause. U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111413 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 02 2 4 1 APPEARANCES 1 A. In his office. 2 2 Q. Related to what modeling? 3 FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS, FISTOS 81 3 A. Working, yeah. Modeling. LEHR-MAN 4 Q. What, at that point in time, did you 4 BY: BRADLEY EDWARDS, ESQ. 5 know about Jean-Lac Brunel? 425 North Andrews Avenue, Suite 2 6 A. Nothing. At that time I didn't know 5 Fort Lauderdale. Florida 33301-3268 7 2(04}licl& 6 ALSO PRESENT: MICHAEL FISTEN 8 Q. So how did you meet with Jean-Lac Brunel 7 in his office in 1998? 8 13 A. Because them was a gentleman from 9 10 11 Switzerland who wanted to makc business with than. 11 12 And 1 was hired by that gentleman to look through 12 13 all the accounts to make sure that — you know, 13 14 they were kind of in bankruptcy. But he wanted to 14 15 know that his money, his investment, would be 15 16 good. So that's why I went Like, an external 16 17 audit to do — to see what was the income, the 17 18 expenses and something like that. 18 19 Q. Who is the guy from Switzerland? 19 20 20 A. I'm not going to tell you his name. 21 21 Q. Is that somebody who is still in Iona 22 22 with Jean-Loa Brand? 23 23 A. No. Not at all. 24 24 Q. Whet's the reason for not wanting to 25 25 disclose his name? Dom he have anything to do 3 5 1 Thereupon- 1 with this ease? 2 2 A No. But I don't have permission. I 3 was called as s witness by the Plaintiff and, 3 have to ask him. 4 after having been first duly sworn, was examined 4 Q. Okay. And after your meeting with 5 and testified as follows: 5 Jean-Luc Brunel in 1998— well, what company was 6 DIRECT EXAMINATION 6 Jean-Lue Brunel with then? 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 7 A Karin's Models, it was, at that time. 8 Q. Tell us your name. 8 Q. K-A-R-I-X? 9 A. 9 A_ Yet. 10 Q. WPM the point, you 10 Q. And is that the only other modeling 11 know who Jeffrey Epstein is? 11 agency that you have known Jean-Lac Brunel to be 12 A. Yes. 12 associated with, besides MC Squared? 13 Q. And you've met him before? 13 A. Yes. 14 A_ Yes. 14 Q. Aod how long was Jean-Luc with Karin. 15 Q. And you know who Jean-Luc Brand is? 15 from 1998 through — 16 A. Yes. 16 A. No, lean-Luc was the owner of Karin's 17 Q. And you have met him before? 17 Before that. lthink since 1 986, in Paris. 18 A. Yes. 18 Q. All right And why was he no longer 19 Q. Which one did you meet first? 19 affiliated with Karin at some point in time? 20 A. lean-Luc Brunel. 20 A He closed — he - how you say — he 21 Q. And where did you meet hint? 21 made a dissolution. He dissolved the company. 22 A. In Miami Beach. 22 Q. Were you ever hired to work with )(aria? 23 Q. Whea? 23 A I was hired to work with Karin's, yeah 24 A. In 1998. 24 Q. When was that? 25 Q. And how? 25 A. In 1998. 2 (Pages 2 to 5) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111414 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 03 a 6 8 1 Q. What was your position? 1 Epstein owns or controls numerous apartments in 2 A. At that time, bookkeeper. 2 that — at that same address: is that right? 3 Q. In Miami? 3 A. Yes. Yes. 4 A. Yes. 4 Q. And have you ever been to that address? 5 Q. And how long did you stay as the 5 A. No. 6 bookkeeper in Miami for Karin? 6 Q. And how do you know that he owns or 7 A, Until 2003, when they changed the 7 controls numerous apartments at that address? 8 company to MC Squared. 8 A. Because at that time Evelyn Valenreula 9 Q. So when did the official change come 9 was the office manager of the new and she was 10 from Karin to MC Squared? 10 dealing personally with the assistant of Jeffrey 11 A. In 2003. 11 Epstein. And she had to do the payments for the 12 Q. And when is the first time you met 12 cable and, I believe, electricity. 13 Jeffrey Epstein? 13 Q. And Evelyn — who was the assistant of 14 A. I met Jeffrey Epstein only once in my 14 Jeffrey Epstein that Evelyn was dealing with? 15 life. And I believe it was in 2003. Two 15 A. i don't know. 16 thousand — yeah, by the end of 2003, 2004. 16 Q. 17 Q. Where? 17 A. I believe so. 18 A. In New York. 18 Q. Do you remember that name? 19 Q. What was the occasion? 19 A. Yes. 20 A. It was the open party for MC Squared. 20 Q. That's somebody who no longer lives 21 Q. Where was that held? 21 here, right? 22 A. In a discotheque in Manhattan. 22 A. I — I believe I heard that, yeah. 23 Q. What discotheque? 23 Q. h you hear that from? 24 A. I don't know. I don't remember. 24 A. F m Evelyn, from Conetta (phoned 25 Q. And did you meet Elaine Maxwell? 25 from 7 9 1 A. I don't know her name. But he was 1 Q. Okay. And at some point in time you 2 with — with a woman. I don't know. 2 came to know that the models were also staying in 3 Q. And what is yetir understanding or what 3 these apartments at 301 East 66th Street, right? 4 was your understanding that Jeffrey— in terms of 4 A. I don't know specifically they stay at Jeffrey Epstein's involvement with MC Squared? 5 Jean-Luc% apartment. But I know that the models 6 A. Jam-Luc shays said that lefty was • 6 were staying in different apartments that belong 7 his friend, that he is a millionaire. And that 7 to Jeffrey Epstein. 8 kffrey was giving him the money to — you }mow. Q. And what are the names of the models loans or whatever — and the apartments for the 9 that were staying there, that you remember? 10 girls and things like that. 10 A. Most of them. You know, at that time, 11 Q. All right. Let's break that down. 11 when I was there who — an the little girls. 12 Giving money for what purpose? For furthering MC 12 13 Squared? 13 Q. How do you spell that? 14 A. For — for — yeah, the money came to MC 14 A. I— you know, that was in 15 Squared, not to — I don't know. Prior to 2003, I 15 2000-somethingg. I don't recall ail the names. 16 don't know if Jeffrey Bpstein ever gave him money. 16 But there is a list that you can get it from the 17 I know that from the longest JeathLue was living 17 office in New York 18 in an apartment that belongs to Jeffrey Epstein. 18 Q. A list — 19 Q. What apartment k that? 19 A. They have a list of models that they 20 A. It's inNEW York. I dont know the 20 were staying in those apartments. 21 address. 21 Q. If I were to request it from the office 22 Q. Is that at 301 East 66th Street? 22 in New York, what would I ask for? 23 A. Yeah, something like that. I think ifs 23 A. For the models' apartment list 24 that one. 24 Chargeback for models apartments. 25 Q. And it's my gplentemibm that Jeffrey 25 Q. Cbargebaek? 3 (Pages 6 to 9) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373—8404 EFTA01111415 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 04 10 12 1 A. Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein never 1 A. No, I dont know. 2 charged Jean-Luc for rent but Jean-Luc was 2 Q. So in addition to his financial 3 charging mot to the girls. And in her statements 3 guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million 4 it shous301. 66 Apamnent A, or Apartment B. And 4 dollars. what other Involvement are you aware of 5 he was charging them, like, a thousand dollars al 5 that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC Squared and/or 6 month. 6 the apartments at 301 East 66th Street where the 7 Q. How do you know that? 7 models lived? 8 A. Because I was doing the statements. 8 A. They were ➢lanning on buying or 9 Q. You were actually the one doing the 9 associating with a glrl in —in France for a 10 statements? 10 for a company. They were planning to do a 11 A. Not all the time. I was in New York 11 company. And, actually, T gave the papa to — to 12 starting 2003. 12 Mr. Shawn Connolly, which is an actual paper that 13 Q. Through what date? You were in New York 13 came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that he 14 from 2003 to — 14 was giving instructions to Jean-Luc saying that he 15 A. 2006. 15 wanted to have the same contracts es uh, what's .6 Q. And while you were in New York you were 16 his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to 17 working for MC Squared? 17 have the same kind of benefits for the scouters. 19 A. Yes. 18 So he was giving instructions to 19 Q. And what is the proof that you have San 19 Jcan-Luc on what to do. what to there is a 20 that Jeffrey Epstein was a partner or financial 20 woman in Paris, I don't recall her name, Frelit 21 supporter of MC Squared? 21 (phonetic). I believe it was and they were — 22 A. Ins the one who took the papers to 22 they were, the three of them. trying to do anew 23 Mellon Bank. 23 company. But then everything was. like, on zero. 24 Q. That's in Miami? 24 They never — they never did it together. 25 A. Yes. And Sy/dozed (phonetic) — I was 25 Q. And do you know why? 11 13 1 talking at the time to Rich — I believe his name 1 A. No. 2 was Rich Garry. That was one of the other 2 Q. Would you know the lady's name in Paris 3 assistants of Jeffrey Epstein. 3 if — 4 Q. Cany, G-A-N-Y? a A. If you give it to rue, yeah. If you give 5 A. Yeah. 5 me the name, I can recall. 6 Q. Do they cell him Erie Cacw? 6 Q. Okay. While I'm looking for that, how 7 A. That is him name, yeah, Eric Gany. 7 many girls that were models were living In the 8 That's his name. !recall somethings, not all 8 apartments at any given time at 301 East 66th 9 the time. I recall that Mr. Epstein didn't want 9 Street? 10 to sign the papers, but Mellon Bank didn't want to 10 A. That's that's not only one apartment 11 accept the Line of Credit if he didn't sign. So 11 There are a lot of apartments there. There is not 12 we had to return the papers to New York so he 12 only one girl. There is not only one apartment 13 actually signed the documents. 13 I believe there were, like, two or three 14 Q. And what was be actually signing, that 14 apartments. And they were put in between four 15 you remember? Signing over as a Line of Credit 15 girls per apartment. I believe. 16 or — 16 Q. How many apartments? 17 A. Asa line — as the grantor of the Line 17 A. 1 believe that mac, like, two or 18 of Credit Because the Line of Credit came from 18 three. 19 J. P. Morgan directly, but he was the grantor. He 19 Q. And then is four girls per apartment? 20 was the one who actually was responsible. 20 A. Yeah. 21 Q. And how much was the Line of Credit? 21 Q. And you know that because you saw the 22 A. A million dollars, it was, at that time. 22 documentation at MC Squared that showed where 23 Q. And did you ever keep track of whether 23 these girls were living? 24 or not that line was extended or any additional 24 A. Yes. 25 monies were given to MC Squared? 25 Q. Did you also have something to do with 4 (Paces 10 to 13) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111416 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 05 14 :6 I the visas that were prepared for the girls that 7 A. No. 2 were working? 2 Q. Have you ever met her? 3 A. Ycs. I was providing the names to the 3 A. No. 4 attorney. His name is Luis Font. He was doing 4 Q. Have you ever met 5 the visas here in Miami. There was another — 5 (phonetic)? 6 Valenzuela was handling directly the visas in New 6 A. No. 7 York. And only when she had problems, she hired 7 Q. You have only met Jeffrey Ffettin once B another attorney. I don't know the name of the 8 in person. Flow many times have you talked to him 9 attorney in New York. But Luis Font is the — 9 ori the phone? 10 was, at that time, the attorney handling the visas :0 A. Maybe once. 11 for Miami. 11 Q. At some point in time you drove several 12 Q. Do you remember doing the visa for■ 12 girls or a number of girls over to Jeffrey 13 13 Epstein's boon; correct? 14 A. No, that was done in New York by Eve 14 A. Not me, Jean-Luc directly took them. I 15 Valenzuela. 15 was making the arrangements to get a limousine or 16 Q. And visa, that you specifically 16 a car. And Jean-Lue himself was driving the girls 17 remember being done, right? 17 to his house because he was having a party and 18 A. Yeah, I remember that. Because at one 18 then were supposed to be girls. 19 point, I believe, one of the renovations of her 19 Q. Which girls did he drive over there? 20 visa, something happened. And Mr. Epstein called 20 A. One time I know he went with Mobini. 21 the office while I was then and was really upset. 21 with — uh, what's her name? Four girls from 22 And he spoke with Ican-Luc and they they were 22 Brazil, front the same agency. is one of 23 really nasty with Eve and, you know, it wasn't 23 than brawsc I remember her name. The other 24 if — it wasn't Eves fault. It was their fault 24 ones — maybe if you — 25 because they gave the wrong information. But, you 25 Q. Elena Weber? 15 17 1 know, she was only an employee and that's it. 1 A. No. 2 Q. How di ome into the . 2 Q. 3 country? 3 A. No. 4 A. By a model's visa, I believe. 4 Q. Do you know those two girls? 5 Q. And was she brought in specifically by 5 A. Yes. 6 Jeffrey Epstein or Jean-Lae nr do you remember? 6 Q. And were those girls somehow involved 7 A. Mr. Epstein wee paying for the visas. 7 with Jean-Luc or the modeling agency? 8 But you know, all the visas werC done through — B A. Yes. 9 through Karin's or MC Squared. I believe she came 9 Q. They were both MC Squared models? 10 with Karin's visa first, then everything 10 A. Yes. 11 transferred to MC Square. And I believe those 11 Q. And at the time, when they began, how 12 visas were paid directly by Mr. Epstein. 12 old were they; do on remember? 13 Q. Now old was w hen she 13 A. I believe like, 14,15. And 14 first came? 14 was 13,14. when she came. 15 A. Idon't know. I wasn't inNew York at 15 Q. Okay. And do you know where they are 16 that time. Because I know she came prior to me 16 now, either one of them? 17 getting involved in New York 17 A. I know-is in New York. 18 Q. And you were involved In New York in 18 Q. When is the last time you talked to her? 19 2003? 19 A 1n2006. 20 A. Yes. 20 Q. How do you know she is in New York? 21 Q. So she came in some time before that? 21 A. Because i saw her pictures whenever. I 22 A. I believe so. 22 believe she's in New York_ I don't know if she 23 Q. But even back in 2003, she still — I 23 really is in New York but I believe. 24 don't know bow old she is now. She's probably 24 24 Q. Elena Weber? 25 or 25, right; do you know? 25 A. Elena, the last time I saw her was in 5 (?aces 14 to 17) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111417 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 06 18 20 1 2006.X*. And, specifically, I don't know where 1 A. I heard that 'heard that. I don't 2 she is. But if she's in the United Siam; I 2 know, because I never met — I never I was 3 believe she's in New York If not, she is in 3 never, like, around him or nothing like that. Pm 4 Brazil or in Paris. 4 just telling you what I heard. But regarding 5 Q. All right Do you know this person in 5 Jean.l..ue, I know — !know he has that kind of 6 Brazil, Cache or Cache? C-A-C-H-A or C-A-C-R.E. 6 problem, no? 7 A. No. 7 Q. And as long as you knew Jean-Lnc, he 8 Q. Rcrc is a document that we obtained 8 always had a cocaine problem? 9 related to information from Jeffrey Epstein's 9 A. Yes. 10 computer system. It says Massage Paris. It's in 10 Q. What about Jeff Fuller? 11 a square there and it continues to the next page. 11 A. I know he had a cocaine problem. too. 12 Tell me if you any of those names. 12 He was one time on the Internet, you know, like, a 13 A. No. is one of tbc girls 13 report on that 14 that vent with NMI nnw the: Fin wing kind of 14 Q. And is Jett Faller somebody else who yon 15 names.= is one of the other ones. If this is 15 also knew to have been associated sexually with 16 Mos something like that it's a 16 underage girls? 17 black girl that I believe she was — she was not 17 A. Jeff: I — you know, I don't think Jeff. 18 =dune but she was going out with one of 18 1always thought Jeff was gay. For me, he's gay. 19 Jeffrey's best friends. 19 You know, that's the impression that I have. But 20 Q. Who is that? 20 I don't think so. 21 A. I believe — 21 Q. Did you fmd out that Jeffrey Epstein 22 Q. Who is Jeffrey's best friend that she 22 and/or Jean-Luc Brunel were Involved in these 23 was going out with? 23 underage girls that were staying in these 24 A. I don't know. I don't know. 24 apartments at 301 East 66th Street? 25 something like that, is her name. 25 A. I really don't know that You know, 19 21 1 Q. All right What laformation do you have 1 cannot tell you. I know that were girls fl ying 2 about Jean-Lae being involved with underage girls 2 that. T never knew if they were going that or 3 at any point in time? And by that I mean being 3 not. 4 involved sexually with underage 4 Q. You mean, you knew that the girls were 5 A. One day he told me that be wishes he an 5 staying there; 13,14,15? 6 sleep with one of those girls that was underage. 6 A. Some of the girls were underage, yeah. 7 And I told him that's a minor, whatever. And 7 Q. As well as 13, 14 or so? B then - hold on, that's my son. 8 A. Thirteen or 14, yeah. 9 (Telephone interruption.) 9 Q. Did you ever ask any of the girls if 10 A. He had a problem, you know. I cannot 10 they were sexually involved with Jean-Lue and/or 11 say T saw them, look. because l would be lying. 11 Jeffrey Epstein? 12 And Prn not going to say any lic. But the only 12 A. No. Onc timc there was a problem with 13 thing thatican tell you that what I saw about 13 And she was - I believe she was 14 Jean-Lue is that Jean-Lue is a drug addict, a 14 14 years old. And she tried to go — or they took 15 cocaine addict. 15 her to a discotheque in Miami Beach. And when I 16 Q. At some point in time you actually saw 16 went to work the day after, they told me that the 17 evidence of that, right? 11 police was asking. So since she was doing 18 A. Yes. 18 whatever she wanted, you know. I brought her to my 19 Q. Immo, him using cocaine that somebody 19 house and I said, you're not going out at night; 20 does every day? 20 you're only 13, 14, and that's my responsibility. 21 A. Yeah. He's an addict. He's used to 21 Q. Do you /mow Sergio Cordero? 22 drugs, as well as. you know — I know Mr. Epstein 22 A. Yes. 23 doesn't take any alcohol, drugs. I know that 23 Q. And do you know what Sergio's role was 24 heard that 24 in getting girls or something torJeffrey Epstein? 25 Q. How do you know? 25 A. Yeah. That — that is something that 6 Rages 18 to 21) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111418 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 07 22 24 1 Sergio, you know, comment with me. And he said 1 with and we lmcw•_was 2 that when Jeffrey Epstein went to Ecuador, 2 only 18 years old. She is a young girl. So 3 Jean-Luc told me that he has to bring girls and 3 that's the kind of girl he likes. You know what I 4 this and that, because Jeffrey was coming to 4 mean? 5 Ecuador. So they did such a big thing. 5 Q. But there is nothing illegal going out 6 Q. Right But In terms of bringing girls, 6 with an IS-year-old girl. And that's what I'm 7 specifically gins. that were very young? 7 asking. 8 A. Yeah. but there was girls from Ecuador. 8 A. No. 9 There is nothing you can do there. It's South Q. What Information do we hove that Jeffrey .0 America. 10 Epstein was involved with underage girls? I mean, 1.1 Q. I understand that. I'm not saying 11 I have a lot of information of my own. Rut I'm .2 whether it was legal or illegal. I'm just asking 12 asking what Information do you know. :3 you, the direction was that Jean-Luc told :3 A. The only thing I heard in the office, 14 Sergio — 14 that Jean-Luc say it. that they like -- when they 15 A. Not to bring girls. Never said — 15 say, oh, I wish I maid sleep with this girl or 16 never — Sergio knew that they like young girls. 16 the fact that he was taking 15.16-year-old girls 17 Q. By young, what are we talking about? 1'7 to his house. 18 A. Eighteen, 19. Sergio — you know, l 18 Q. Who? 19 know Sergio. And more than anything, like, Scrgio 19 A I know that because I saw him. 20 is a father. And I don't think he will nut his 20 Q. Jean-Lae was taking 15-year-old girls to 21 hands on a ten, 11, 12, I3-year-old girl. You 21 his own place? 22 bow what I mean? 22 A. No, to IcffthY's house. 23 Q. I'm ant asking about him. Do you know 23 Q. To Jeffrey's house? 24 ofJeffrey Epstein being involved with underage 24 A. Yes. 25 girls? 25 Q. And what 15-year.old girls was he taking 23 25 1 A. I heard that yeah. 1 to Jeffrey's house? 2 Q. You heard that through whom? I don't 2 A. At the time I'm telling you it was- 3 mean just the newspapers and things like that I 3 I don't know remember the other two 4 mean -• 4 girls. There is two Brazilian girls. I gave it 5 A. No. Through — through the office. 5 to you before, the names. I don't remember right 6 Through Jean-Luc. Through -- there were 6 now. 7 conversations of Jan-Luc saying that, you know. 7 Q. Do you know Leslie Groff? 8 Q. Saying what? 8 A. No. 9 A. That Jeffrey likes underage girls. And Q. Do you know Khalld Mohammed? 10 never directly but, you know, his conversations 10 A. Yet 11 were lace that 11 Q. What did he do? 12 Q. Okay. But, specifically, I just want to 12 A. lie was a scouter and a booker. 13 know what evidence that we have, what real 13 Q. Stouter; what does that mean? 14 conversations that you heard, about Jeffrey 14 A. Person looking for models. 15 Epstein liking underage girl% 15 Q. And how legitimate was — 16 A. I'm telling you Jean•Lue saying it from 16 A. Khalid Salaam. 17 his mouth. 17 Q. Salaam? 18 Q. Okay. And, specifically, be says 18 A. Yeah. 19 Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls or he likes 19 Q. RIghL Where wax he bringing modeb ks 20 12-year-olds or likes what? 20 from or looking for models? Outside the country 21 A. No, he likes young girls. When they 21 or — 22 were talking in the office, there were a lot of 22 A. Inside the country. Very — not often 23 people. So they were not stupid. They were 23 from outside the county, no, no. From inside. 24 knowing how to talk. Because they wee making, 24 Q. Did you ever hear of any of the parties 25 like, a big thing of, oh, look, he's going out 25 that took place on Jeffrey Epstein's island? 7 (Pages 22 to 25) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111419 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE 08 26 28 1 A. In -- 1 Q. What did he accuse you of? 2 Q. Little St James? 2 A. Of stealing money. And I had a letter 3 A. One New Yew's, I believe — that was, 3 from Jean-Luc authorizing me to get the money that 4 like, 2004,2005, that New Year's — they were 4 I had, you know. 5 having a party there. 5 Q. And did you ultimately have to plead to 6 Q. Who was having a party there? 6 criminal charges because of that? 7 A. Mr. Epstein. 7 A. That was my — what my attorney told me. 8 Q. And who was at the party that you know? B Q. Yeah? 9 A. I know Jean-Luc was there. But then — 9 A. Yeah. 10 specifically, I don't know if lest[-Luc stay there, 10 Q. So now you're on probation or something? 11 because what I do recall is that, during those 11 A. Yes. 12 days, there was, like, December 30 or 29. 12 Q. How long does the probation last? 13 something like that, lean-Luc call me from Puerto 13 A. They did it for 20 years. So I'm just 14 Rico that he was doing the scouting and he — 14 trying to melt= that 15 actually. he was the one who told me that he had 15 Q. Twenty-year probation? 16 to go to Jeffrey's island because they were having 16 A. Yeah. 17 the party there for New Year's. 17 Q. And other than Jeff Fuller, who else 18 Q. What other girls do you know of that 18 was — who else was making thew accusations? 19 were et that party? 19 A. Only Jeff. 20 A. I don't know. 20 Q. How about Jean-Lne? 21 Q. Do you know of any of the other peoF4e 21 A. I never — my attorney told me that 22 that were at that party? 22 Jean-Luc was never interviewed, nothing. 23 A. No. 23 Q. Jeffrey Epstein? 24 Q. Just Jean-Luc and Epstein? 24 A. No. 25 A. Yes. 25 Q. Have you talked to Jean-Lac about the 27 29 1 Q. The last time that we talked, I have 1 whole situation? 2 just the investigative report, which basically was 2 A. i spoke with Jean-Lue.on two or three 3 just typed up from the things that you said. it 3 times. I spoke with Jean-Lue, like, two or three 4 was written that Ma Vasquez advised that she, 4 times dining — prior to the middle of the 5 herself, submitted the documents to renew 5 process, I did — and I still have an e-mail that 6 foreign visa on at least two occasion. 6 he send me because he wanted to talk to me, I 7 A. No. not me. It was Evelyn Valenzeula. 7 wanted to talk to him. And I never made the time 9 I never did her visa_ That visa was done by 8 because Jeff Fuller didn't allow him to talk to 9 Evelyn in New York. 9 me. So we never got to get together to talk. 10 Q. When Is the first time that you learned 10 Q. And they prosecuted the case in Federal 11 that was involved with Jeffrey 11 Court herein Miami? 12 Epstein? 12 A. Yes. 13 A. I believe in 2007. After I was out of 13 Q. And your entire sentence was probation; 14 the company. 14 there was no prison or house arrest? 15 Q. Yon didn't know, when you were in the 15 A. House arrest one year. That, it was 16 company, that they were involved? 16 done already. And then probation. 17 A. No. 17 Q. The last time, I have a lot of other 18 Q. All right At some point in time, did 18 notes about some of the models that were being 19 you get in trouble, criminal trouble, related to 19 brought in and signing visas, as if they were 20 MC Squared? 20 going to work here, but realty they were lilting in 21 A. They accuse me in 2006. 21 the apartment and didn't really do any modeling 22 Q. Who accused you? 22 work 23 A. Jeff. 23 A. Yeah, that is true. That is true. J 24 Q. Jeff Fuller? 24 told you that. Many, many girls were coming here. 25 A. Yes. 25 Many girls were coming here first without a visa, 9 (Pages 26 to 29) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 EFTA01111420 09/28/2012 23:30 19735971174 PAGE