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Page 452 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA CASE NO.: 08-CV-80119-MARRA/JOHNSON JANE DOE NO. 2, Plaintiff, -vs- VOLUME IV OF IV JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. Related cases: 08-80232, 08-08380, 08-80381, 08-80994, 08-80993, 08-80811, 08-80893, 09-80469, 09-80591, 09-80656, 09-80802, 09-81092 CONTINUED VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JANE DOE NO. 4 Friday, February 12, 2010 10:10 - 12:27 p.m. Reported By: Cynthia Hopkins, RPR, FPR Notary Public, State of Florida Prose Court Reporting PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins • Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins 6f83esb3-b5a6.47c4-9336-1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723972 EFTA00723973  Page 453 Page 455 1 APPEARANCES: 1 PROCEEDINGS On behalfof Jane Does I through 8: 2 4 STUART S. MERMELSTEIN, ESQUIRE 3 Deposition taken before Cynthia Hopkins, WIT2, P.A. 4 Registered Professional Reporter and Florida 5 Professional Reporter, and Notary Public in and for 6 the State of Florida at Large, in the above cause. I Phone: 7 7 E-mail: 8 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This is the 12th day of 8 9 February, 2010. The time is 10:12 ant. This On behalfof the Dekndant, Jeffrey Epstein: to MARK T. LUTDER, ESQUIRE 10 is the videotaped deposition of Jane Doe No. 4 LUTTIER & COLEMAN, LLP 11 in the matter of Jane Doe No. 2 versus Epstein, 11 12 Epstein. 13 El Phone: 14 13 15 My name is Shasha Quimby. I am the 14 ALSO PRESENT: 16 videographer representing Visual Evidence, Inc. n ShashaQuimby,Videograpixe Visual Evidence, Ineaporated 17 Would the attorneys please announce their 16 18 appearances for the record. 17 19 MR. MERMELSTEIN: Stuart Mermelstein for 18 19 20 the Plaintiff, Jane Doe No. 4. 20 21 MR. LUTT1ER: Mark Luther for the 21 22 Defendant, Mr. Epstein. 22 23 Thereupon, 23 24 24 (JANE 110E NO.4) 25 25 Having been first duly sworn or affirmed, was Page 454 Page 456 3. 1 examined and testified as follows: 2 2 THE WITNESS: Yes. 3 INDEX 3 THE COURT REPORTER: Thank you. 4 4 DIRECT EXAMINATION 5 WITNESS: — DIRECT CROSS REDIRECT RECROSS 5 BY MR. LUTITER: 6 JANE DOE NO.4 6 Q. Okay. Good morning, ma'am. BY MR. LUMER 455 7 A. Morning. 8 Q. You understand this is a continuation of 9 9 your deposition — 10 10 A. Yes. 11 11 Q. before? You understand you're still 12 NO EXHIBITS 12 tinder oath? 13 13 A. Yes, I do. 14 14 Q. Same rules apply as the last depo? 15 15 A. Yes. 16 16 Q. Okay. If you need a break let me know. 17 17 If I ask you a question you don't understand, let me 18 18 know and 1 will explain it to you. 19 19 Since your deposition on October 27th, 20 20 have you had an opportunity to review the transcript 21 21 of your deposition? 22 22 A. Yes. 23 23 Q. Were there any errors that you noted? 24 24 A. No. I haven't, well, I haven't gone through 25 t4 `~25 µ the whole thing but there is a few things that 1 u 2 (Pages 453 to 456 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins 6f83oeb3-b5.16-47c4-9336-1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723974  Page 457 Page 459 1 noticed. 1 A. I don't know. There was a few things that, 2 Q. What comes to mind that you noticed that 2 well, my parents already knew but just going over like, 3 was inaccurate or needed to be changed? 3 like, I don't know, like, some of the questions. I 4 A. A few misspelled words. 4 don't — just over the whole general deposition, not 5 Q. Okay. Other than misspellings, do you 5 like, I can't recall like certain questions or certain 6 suppose there are any substantive mistakes? 6 things that we talked about. Just like general 7 A. No. 7 deposition. 8 Q. And you say you haven't had a chance to 8 Q. What is it that you felt that they needed 9 review the whole thing yet? 9 to know about your deposition? 10 ell, I let them know about 11 12 A. No. Q. Do you know how much of it you've done? A. 'guess pan one to part two. 12 t and that's about it. I'm pretty sure. Q. And by the way. did vou,did you discuss 13 Q. Okay. When did you start looking at it? 13 with them 14 A. I've just been skimming through it since I got 14 15 it in the mail. 16 Q. Recently? 16 Q. Okay. anYthh18 17 A. Yeah. Just recently certain dates come in to 17 else that you discussed wt 18 mind. I was skimming through it like the weeks and 18 A. Well, that's the only one thing that comes to 19 stuff. :9 mind. I'm sure there's other things that we discussed, 20 Q. Okay. Have you reviewed anything else in 20 but I don't remember what else. But that's like the one 21 preparation for the continuation of your deposition? 21 thing that I can remember. 22 A. Looked at anything else? 22 Q. You're aware that their depositions have 23 Q. Uh-huh. 23 been taken? 24 A. Unh-unti. 24 A. Yeah. 25 Q. Had any meetings with anybody other than 25 Q. Have you talked to them since their Page 458 Page 460 1 your lawyer 1 depositions were taken? 2 A. No. 2 A. Yeah. 3 Q. — about your deposition? Talked to 3 Q. And what was the substance of those 4 anybody else about your deposition? 4 conversations? 5 A. My parents. S A. I don't know. How are you doing today? What 6 Q. When did you talk to your pm cub? 6 are you doing tomorrow? What are you doing today? 7 A. I think — I don't remember what time. I'm 7 Q. What did you ask them about their 8 not sure. Shortly after my deposition I think. 8 depositions in particular? 9 Q. After your deposition back on, in 9 A. Nothing. I didn't talk to them about their — 10 October - 10 they asked how it went, pretty much. But I know how a 11 A. Yeah. 11 deposition goes. I went through one. So, I mean we 12 Q. — of '09? 12 just discussed like a deposition in general, like what, 13 A. No, after. Was it — what did you just say 13 like how the experience is. 14 the date of my deposition was? 14 Q. You say they asked how it went, or you 15 Q. October 27th, '09? 15 asked them how it went? 16 A. Yeah. 16 A. No, I asked. I know where depositions come 17 Q. It was sometime shortly after that before 17 fromMigtilliain things, like, how 18 Christmas? 18 you guys and that's about it. 19 A. I don't remember when I talked to them but I 19 Q. Anything else you discussed with them 20 know I talked to them after my deposition. 20 about their depositions? 21 Q. And what was the purpose of that 21 A. No. 22 discussion? What did you discuss? 22 Q. Have you read any depositions in this case 23 • A. Just to go over some things that I thought my 23 other than your deposition? 24 parents should know. 24 A. No. 25 Q. Like what? 25 Q. Have you read your parents' depositions? 3 (Pages 457 to 460) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hooking Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins - Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins -97 -2 4) Electronically signed by cynthla hopkins 61133ceb3-b5a6.47c4-9336-12081d1246d7 EFTA00723975  Page 461 Page 463 1 A. No. 1 there for — never been there. So, we went up there' 2 Q. Have you been provided with transcripts of 2 with some friends. 3 any of the depositions? 3 Q. What was her friend's name? 4 A. No. 4 A. S Q. Have you spoken since your last deposition 5 Q. Does have a last name? 6 with any other Plaintiffs who have claims pending 6 A. I don't know what his last name is. 7 against Mr. Epstein? 7 Q. And what was her relationship with-? 8 A. No. 8 A. Friends. 9 Q. Have you communicated in any way with any 9 Q. And what did you-all do while you were 10 other Plaintiffs who have claims pending against 10 there? 11 Mr. Epstein? 11 A. Nothing. We went withldsgi al and we — in 12 A. No. 12 part we went and saw the cit n, sightseeing. 13 MR. MERMELSTEIN: You mean before then? 13 Q. How old is. roughly? 14 THE WITNESS: Like have I talked to them? 14 A. How old is w1201._ 15 MB. MERMELSIEIN: Before or after the 15 Q. How old was roughly? 16 deposition? 16 A. I don't know, probably like 40, 50's, maybe. 17 MR. LUITIER: Since your deposition on 17 I don't, 30's, 40's. I don't know. 18 October 27. 18 Q. That's a 20 year gap from 30 to 50. 19 THE WITNESS: Like have I talked to them? 19 A. I don't know how old, I don't know how old he 20 BY MR. DOTTIER: 20 21 Q. Yeah. Let me clarify what I mean by 21 Q. Is he closer to 50 than 30? 22 communication. By communication I mean any form of 22 A. No, probably not. 23 communication whether that's talking to them, some 23 Q. Was he married? 24 computerized form of communication, whether it's 24 A. No. 25 Facebook, Twitter, e-mails, text, anything like that 25 Q. Have kids? Page 462 Page 464 1 whether you wrote something to them. 1 A. I don't know. 2 A. Yeah. lam sure I talked to Jane Doe No. 7 2 Q. Ever been married? 3 but I don't know if I lanced to Jaw Doe No. 3 after my 3 A. I don't know. 4 deposition. I might have talked to Jane Doe No. 3. 4 Q. Have a job? 5 Q. When was the last time you talked to Jane 5 A. I don't Imow. I'm sure he had a job but I 6 Doe No. 7? 6 don't {mow what it was. 7 A. Probably like two days ago. 7 Q. What did you know about hint? Q. And for what purpose did you talk to her 8 A. Nothing. I really didn't -- I mean, he 9 two days ago? 9 to go to, or invi I No. 7 to go to 10 A. She told me about her weekend. 10 Iliriutd she invited m like four of our, of 11 Q. ligere is Jane Doe No. 7 living now? 11 our friends. l Mini( it was five of us that went down 12 A. 12 there. And pretty much I just hung out with my 13 Q. Have you ever traveled out of the State of 13 girlfriends. I didn't talk to him. 14 Florida with Jane Doe No. 7? 14 He was Jane Doe No. '7's friend. You know, 15 A. Yeah. 15 he wasn't really around. And whenever he was, it 16 Q. Where did you travel? 16 wasn't !didn't really talk to him. I was more 17 A. 17 hanging put with my frill I was talking to 18 Q. And when was that? 18 him trying to get to know 19 A. I think it was my junior summer. Yeah, my 19 Q. Did you -- where did ou-all stay? 20 junior summer. My kali:beef in college in stammer. 20 A. 21 That's when I lived in 21 Q. And did, does buying you-all 22 Q. Okay. And why did you-all go 22 anything of value? 23 A. Why did, why did we go 23 A. We went to. and he bought us all like a 24 Q. Yeah. Why did you go 24 dress to wear for that -- whenever we went out that 25 A. Her friend invited us to go we went 25 night. 4 (Pages 461 to 4 64) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia health's 6183eob3-b5a6-47c4-9336.1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723976  ?aye 40 Page 467 Q. And where did you-all go out? 1 A. Yeah. 2 A. I don't remember what it was called. 2 Q. What is the name? 3 Q. Did he pay all the expenses for the trip? 3 A. I don't know. 4 A. Yeah. 4 Q. Can't be that name, right? 5 Q. Did anybody in your group compare him to 5 A. Yeah, I don't know what it's called, though. 6 Mr. Epstein? 6 Q. What caused you to say it was an exclusive A. No. 7 hotel? 8 Q. Have you ever made the statement that he 8 A. Because we had wrist bands on and we didn't 9 was like Mr. Epstein? • 9 have to pay for anything, except for food or drinks. 10 A. No. 10 MR. MERMELSTEIN: You mean 11 Q. Other than the trio with lane Doe No. 7 11 all-inclusive — 12 and your other friends have you traveled 12 THE WITNESS: Yeah. 13 anyplace else with Jane Doe No. 7 outside the State 13 MR. MERMELSTETN: -- not exclusive? 14 ofFlorida? 14 THE WITNESS: Yeah. 15 A. No. 15 BY MR. LUTHER: 16 Q. When was the last time you went outside 16 Q. Okay. And there was a casino at the 17 the State of Florida? 17 hotel? 18 A. In December. 18 A. No. 19 Q. And where 19 Q. You had to go someplace else to go? 20 A. I went to th 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. And who did you go with? 21 Q. Who paid for this whole trip? 22 A. 22 A. My boyfrienckatell, yfriend paid for 23 Q. That's 23 some of the trip and and helped paid for some 24 A. Yes. 24 of it because it was her Christmas present. 25 Q. And he's still your boyfriend? 25 Q. Your boyfriend would be . Page 466 Page 468 1 A. Yes. 1 A. Yes. 2 Q. And how long were you gone? 2 Q. And then what did II do? 3 A. Around six or seven days. 3 A. AILigjth.a helped pay for it too, her and her 4 Q. Did you go with anybody else? 4 boyfriend =. S A. We met some friends there. 5 Q. Oh, was — 6 Q. Your friends or his friends? 6 A. It Christrnas present. 7 A. Our friends. 7 Q. -= there, too? 8 Q. And who was that? 8 A. Yeah. He showed . He had to work. 9 A. My fri 9 Q. How dig.y.91;mowIt 10 Q, is last name? 10 A. That's= good friend. 11 A (phonetic), I think. 11 Q. So, these really were friends of 12 Q. And how did you know her? 12 as a result ofyou dating him you'd come to 13 A. Through... 13 A. Yeah. 14 Q. And was there anynIthesides it 14 Q. You-all go around places together? 15 A. auk Her friend=. And 1,1know my 15 A. No. We just went over Christmas. 16 friend came too or this girl came. 16 . Q. Okay. They live here in the area? MI 17 Q. And was it a vacation? 17 A. Yeah. 18 A. Yeah. 18 Q. Did you have a good time on vacation: 19 Q. What did you-all do generally? 19 A. Yeah. 20 ed at like an all-inclusive hotel in 20 Q. Anything bad happen on vacation? 21 and hung out at the hotel, went out by the 21 A. No. What do you mean "bad?" 22 pool, went to the casino one night. I don't know if 22 Q. Well, any bad event I don't mean dinner 23 that's about it, vacation. 23 was late. I mean, you know, somebody got hurt or 24 . Did ou say it was an exclusive hotel in 24 something like that. 25 25 A. Oh, somebody got hurt or somethine„. _ aj 5 (Pages 465 to 468) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins • Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins 6f830.0b3-b5a6.47c4-9336.1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723977  Page 4t ' Page 471 1 Q. Yeah. 1 him now. 1 A. Oh, yeah. Somebody got hurt. 2 Q. Okay. Well, describe what your current 2 Q. What hap mj- d? 3 relationship is then between you and him. .1 A. My friend she was going to walk off the 4 A. Well, I think it was the whole issue of going boat and she hit her shin on the deck, on the deck. 5 through this whole deposition and being stressed out Q. Okay. Have you, have you trawled outside 6 about it So, whenever I would go out, like I • an lace since the tri in December to 7 couldn't -- I wasn't even comfortable being out thinking 3 8 that somebody was going to, like watching me or being A. No. 9 paranoid. 10 Q. Have you traveled -- where you do 10 So, when we would be out together and we 11 currently live now? 11 would be drinking, slot of this deposition and a 12 A. Well, I stay at my boyfriend's house 12 lot of this whole thing that is going on with 13 • sometimes I will stay at 13 Jeffrey Epstein has brought a lot of stress on me. So, going back and forth between ere 14 So, when I would drink like I would be 15 until I figure out what I want to do, where I want to 15 angry and we would argue a lot more. But now like, 16 stay, if I want to get my own place. 16 that, a lot of this is almost over, it's gotten, you 17 Q. Okay. So, your sister has a — 17 know, to the point, and after that whole thing it 18 A. I go up to my parents' house too. 18 was an eye-opener for me. 19 Q. If I remember correctly from the last 19 Q. The incident between you andIM 20 20 occurred before your deposition, correct? 21 A. Yeah. But I know I had my deposition and, you 22 A. No. She has a house. 22 know, you guys were goizgcr had investigators going to 23 Q. A house. And so, you stay there part of 23 my friends, going to my my family, you guys, 24 the time and then sometimes you stay at your 24 you know, were kind ofharassing me, I felt 25 boyfriend's? 25 Q. Well, the investigators went to your Page 470 Page 472 1 A. ME. 1 when? 2 Does he still have the same place in 2 A. Uh-huh. 3 that he had before? 3 Q. ilifear — 4 A. Yes. 4 A. 5 Q. Is there any pattern that you follow 5 Q. At least a year before the deposition? 6 there? 6 A. w the exact date, but they 7 A. No. 7 went to sometime before my depositi.,, st Q. Majority of is spent where? 8 Q. Yeah. But do you remember how far in A. Probably 9 advance of your deposition? 10 Q. The last time we took your deposition, 10 A. How far in advance it was, no. 11 shortly before that deposition there had been s me 11 Q. How far before your deposition. 12 ncident between the two of u ant 12 A. No. 13 Q. Do you remember filing an 14 A. Yes. 14 affidavit about it? 15 Q. Do you recall that? 15 A. No. I know she filed.one, but I don't 16 A. 16 remember the exagaws,s, 17 17 Q. Okay. Sea called you and said 18 A. 18 somebody came, wanted to ask her questions about — 19 19 A. Yeah. 20 Q. — your involvement with Mr. Epstein? 21 A. Uh-huh. Yeah, nothing. 22 Q. One time? 23 Q. Did you resolve whatever your differences 23 A. I don't know how many times. I recall one 24 were with your boyfriend about that? 24 time, yes. 25 A. Yeah. Things are really good between me and 25 Q. She didn't tell you about more than one 6 (Pages 469 to 472) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins 11083eeb3-bSa6-47e4-9336-1208fdl2413d7 EFTA00723978  Page 473 Page 475 1 time, did she? 1 let it ruin my life. I saw a change in my behavior, 2 A No. Did it happen more than one time? 2 like my attitude. It was making me stressed out. 3 Q. Not to my knowledge., but -- 3 It was making me emotional. Like I would 4 MR. MERMELSTEIN: Let, let Mr. Luther - 4 be happy one day, sad the next. You know, it was, 5 MR. LOTTER: Other than that - 5 it was like tearing my relationship with my 6 MR. MERMELSTEIN: — ask you questions. 6 boyfriend up, and we were getting in a lot more 7 THE WITNESS: Okay. 7 arguments but, I mean, it was like I was bipolar. I 8 BY MR. LUTTTER: was happy one minute and upset the next. He was 9 Q. Other than that, what other claim did you 9 like what's wrong with you. 10 make that investigators were doing anything? 10 And after this whole, after my deposition 11 A. re going around to people that I 11 and like after, like, talking to my family about 12 knew i tthat I went to high school with 12 some things that, you know, some secrets that I had 13 asking questions about me and my frienisi.e were 13 hidden. And I was open with him and told him 14 trying to get a hold of my ex-boyfriend, And 14 things, it relieved a lot of things and it made me 15 they were, I mean they were pretty much being ruthless 15 become a stronger person. 16 about it, the whole, everything. 16 And it helped me, like helped me through 17 Q. Basic, basically those investigators 17 it a little bit, helped me through the situation and 18 talked to the same people the police talked to, 18 it made ow relationship stronger. 19 right? 19 Q. Okay. So, your kind ofmoved on beyond 20 A. I don't know if ifs the same people. 20 that now? 21 Q. Well, you know the police had corn* out and 21 A. Well, I'm working on it. 22 talked to all your friends, didn't you? 22 Q. Have you been to see any psychologist or 23 A Did they? 23 psychiat 24 Q. Yeah. They called all ofyour friends. 24 25 A. I don't know at that time who was my, hie — Page 474 Page 476 I don't know. I don't know who they, I don't know who 1 Q. My question is you're aware that he is not 2 they all talked to back then. 2 a ps 3 Q. Just so, just so we're clear, you were 4 5 6 well aware of tbe fact that the police were out interviewing a number of your friends, weren't you? A. Were they? I'm sure but the friends that I Q. Okay. My question is specifically -- 7 Me — 7 A. I thought, no. 8 MR. MERMELSTEIN: Just, just answer the B MR. MERMELSTEIN: Well, let him ask the 9 question to your knowledge. 9 question. 10 THE WITNESS: Yeah. 10 THE WITNESS: Okay. 11 MR LUTHER: Okay. 11 BY MR. LUTITER: 12 THE WITNESS: I got, like-- 12 Q. My question is specifically directed to 13 BY MR. LUTFIER: :3 whether or not you've seen any psychologist 14 Q. The police came and visited you, right? 14 A. No. 15 A Yeah. I know they came and saw me but my 15 Q. psychiatrist. 16 friends, are you referring to the people that, that, the 16 AIM Or I have seen Jeffrey — after my 17 girls that went to Jeffrey's or are you talking about 17 deposition? 18 the girls that didn't go? 18 19 Q. Anybody that you knew? 19 20 A. Yeah. 20 Q 21 after 21 A. Yeah. 22 22 Q. Okay. And you — before your deposition, 23 23 you went to see an individ our lawyers sent 24 A. Nothing. It opened my eyes. I was, how, how 24 you to. I think his name is He's the guy 25 much, this whole situation was aL" me. I can't 25 that flew in from California to see ? 7 (Pages 473 to 476) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by Cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins 6183ecti3,b5a6.47c4-9336.1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723979  Page 479 1 Q. Okay. Why — you went back to look at his 2 fish tank but do you see him someplace other than 3 his office? 4 A. No. 5 Q. Does your, does your boyfriend have some 6 relationship with him? 7 A. No. 8 Q. Are they in business together or anything 9 like that? 10 A. No. 11 Q. When you with went to see him again, did 12 you go alone? 13 A. Yes 14 Q. This visit two weeks ago? 15 A. Yeah. 16 Q. And the purpose of your visit was to go 17 see how be was doing, that is Mr. 18 A. Yeah, well, yeah, we didn'tveha like a 19 one-on-one, like, session or anything. 20 Q. What, did you just drop in the office? 21 A. Uh-huh. 22 Q. Did you have, do you have an appointment 23 scheduled, or you just happened to be there? 24 A. No, I didn't. 25 Q. Okay. So, you dropped in as friend? Page 480 1 A. Yeah. 2 Q. And you were up there for some other 3 reason? 4 9 Q. So, you just ecided one day to drive down 10 to his office and see how he is doing? 11 A. Yeah. 12 Q. Any reason that you went to him other than 13 that? 14 A. No. I just know that he had a fish tank that, 15 that he had or whatever and I have a fish tank or my 16 boyfriend has a fish tank. So I like looking at fish 17 tanks. And he said he had it all hooked up and stuff, 18 so I wanted to go look at it. 19 Q. When did you fend out he had it all hooked 20 up? 21 A. Well, I know he got a fish tank from the last 22 Q. Do you, do you, do you 'mow him on a 22 time I went and saw him. He had an empty fish tank. 23 friendly basis? 23 So, I wanted to go see if it was like all hooked up and 24 A. No. I never hung out with him out of the 24 everything. I didn't know but I just kind of figured, 25 office. 25 last time I went there it was calland hers set i i ____.... 8 (Pages 477 to 480) PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. Electronically signed by cynthia booklets Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins Electronically signed by cynthia hopkins • 6183aob3-b5a6-47c4-9338.1208fd1246d7 EFTA00723980  Page 481 Page 483 1 everything up from the last time I was there. So, I 1 your last deposition, you had a desire at that time 2 wanted to go look at it and see how it was progressing. 2 or expressed a desire that you might want to become 3 Q. If I understood your testimony originally, 3 a teacher? 4 you said he told you? 4 A. Yeah. 5 A. I didn't mean to say he told me. I was just 5 Q. Is that still what you're thinking about 6 saying whenever I went there, he had an empty fish tank 6 doing? 7 and I know he was like working on getting stuff set up 7 A. Yeah. 8 for it. Q. And did you tell us at u de pion 9 Q. So, was it just happenstance or out of the 9 that you had been accepted at to! -- 10 blue that you decided on this particular day you 10 A. For my Master's, yes. 11. would go by and drop 11 Q. — the Master's program? Once you're 12 A. SI l was leavMa and t was 12 accepted in the program, do you have to enroll 13 taking=clown. And I was driving right by his office, 13 within some period of tine of when you get accepted? 14 so I figured I would stop in. 14 A. I'm sure. I don't know. 15 rs 15 Q. All right. Did you — do you intend to 16 40ien Q yo l luthleavaillin 16 pursue the Master's? 17 A. No. 17 A. Yeah. think at • 1was trying to 18 Q. All right. It WAS -- 18 get my CIA atM. So, you have to enroll for your 19 A. Just that day. 19 Master's before you could sign up for your GA which is 20 Q. It was just happenstance that you were 20 Graduate Assistance Program. And I was waking to hear 21 driving by and you said, well, you would drop in to 21 back to see if I got in kb I didn't. So, I really 22 see — 22 can't afford to go to Ifs too expensive. I 23 A. I decided to stop by. 23 would mther go to 24 Q. -- what's happening? 24 Q. But if you — okay. 25 A. Yeah. 25 A. So, I'm going to get my Master's. Page 482 Page 484 1 boyfriend also goes to this 1 Q. The idea of being that if you got in the 2 2 Graduate Assistance Program, that they had would in 3 A. Ite did go there. 3 essence pay you? 4 Q. Okay. You say that's did as in past 4 A Yeah. Then I would have pursued going to 5 tense. Does he no longer go there? 5 but since that didn't work out; I didn't get my A. No. 6 GA, I decided to take off fora little bit and now I Q. When did he stop going? 7 want to pursue it in, my Master's in the fall. A. I don't ow. 8 Q. Okay. When did you find out you didn't 9 get in the Graduate Assistance Program? 10 A. Well, you're supposed to hear back I think it 11 was like the end of- I don't remember. The end of 12 A. No. 12 July, like the last month of July or something or the 13 Q. And do you know why he stopped going? 13 beginning of August. 14 A. No. 14 Certain dates, certain — like whatever 15