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*Lincoln Chafee on CNN's New Day* *4/16/15* http://mms.tveyes.com/ClipEditor.aspx?hl=&StationID=100&ClipDateTime=04/16/2015+08:07:00 (*8:07a) Chris Cuomo*: Lincoln Chafee joins us right now. He was a former senator and governor from Rhode Island and he is weighing a run for president. Good to have you with us, governor. *Chafee*: Thank you very much for having me on the show. *Cuomo*: So let’s ask the obvious question: Do you think you can beat Hillary Clinton and why? *Chafee*: I have been in 12 elections in my career over 30 years, and I’ve gotten into every one expecting to win. I have won 10 of the 12, but you always get in expecting to win, and elections should be about choices, and so you said on the Republican side there seem to be a lot of choices; there should be choices on the Democrat side also. *John Berman:* So here’s the thing, you were actually a big supporter, you went out on a limb supporting President Obama when he was running for re-election. At the time you were an independent and I think you even supported him as a Republican or at least considered it as a Republican. *Chafee*: no, as an independent. *Berman:* Oh, as an independent. So look, a lot of people are looking at Hillary Clinton right now as a third term for President Obama. You, by exploring a run, are not so indirectly saying, no, no, no, she does not represent the third term here. Why not? *(8:08) Chafee*: well, don't forget, that the reason -- probably the biggest reason that senator Obama at the time defeated Hillary Clinton in '08 was because of the Iraq war vote. That was the issue and that's my big issue here, because we are dealing with ramifications in a huge mistake that Senator Clinton made in 2002, which i did not make, but we live with it today—everyone says well that’s 12 years ago, but we live with it today-- even the news today in Ramadi, what’s happening in Ramadi with ISIS. And so it's a huge, bad decision, and so i don't consider it a third term for President Obama at all. Very, very different. *Cuomo:* You also have and interesting connection here. You were in boarding school with Jeb Bush, is that right? *Chafee:* yes. *Cuomo:* So, do you believe he would be a better president than Hillary Clinton? *(8:09a) Chafee:* I am running my own race on the Democratic side and i will let the Republicans sort out their primaries. *Berman: *You actually are running a race though on the Democratic side. You haven’t declared yet, no one’s declared but Hillary on the Democratic side, and the other folks who are considering a run, Bernie Sanders, Jim Webb, Martin O’Malley- no one is taking on Hillary Clinton. No one has gone out nearly as far as you have gone out to criticize her, and you are criticizing her saying that a vote that she took in the Senate, when you were in the Senate, is essentially disqualifying for the Democratic nomination. *Chafee:* Yes that’s why I’m running, because I feel strongly about where we’re going as a country, so it's not only that vote, but also her actions of Secretary of State, and where we're going--- *Cuomo:* What did she do wrong? What’d she do wrong as Secretary of State? *Chafee: *Well first of all start with Russia. Right in the early days of her tenure as Secretary of State, they tried to re-start with Russia and she presented the Russian foreign minister with a re-start button, but they got the Russian word wrong, and instead the Russians looked at it and said this means over charge, and it was an insult. *Cuomo:* I mean, the re-start was the right move or the wrong move? *(8:10) Chafee:* It was the right move to re-start, but you got to get the word right. They insulted the Russians right off the bat and we live with the ramifications again today. Look what is happening with Putin and with Russia, Ukraine, and selling arms to Iran. It all could have started with that diplomatic mistake, getting the word wrong. And also, as Secretary of State, she referred to the elected leader of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez at the time, as a dictator, and that just sets back our relations with an important country, an oil-rich country. So it's a succession of mistakes- mistake on the Iraq war vote, poor tenure as Secretary of State. We need a new direction; fresh ideas for where we’re going as a country. *Berman:* It sounds like you’ve really gone through her record kind of with a fine-toothed comb here looking for specific examples. What about the now, and the e-mails, what about the funds for the Clinton global initiative, and what level of concern is this to you? *(8:11)* Chafee: Especially the funds coming into the Clinton funds from other countries, while she is Secretary of State. Huge amounts of money coming from these foreign countries into the Clinton fund while she is Secretary of State. *Berman:* Did they change the rules while she was Secretary and then afterwards start accepting from other countries like Saudi Arabia and what not? *Chafee*: And Libya. I don't know when they changed the rules, John. *(8:11:20) Cuomo:* Important stuff to know though Governor because if you are going to go after Hillary Clinton on the basis of basically, you’re painting a character picture of her right? Then gotta be right about it because that's a pretty big hammer to swing, especially if you’re not going to say “oh, I have the better ideas.” You have to pick a tack, either you are going to just go after her and say she is not good enough, but you’re also going to have to say at some point why you are better *Chafee*: Yes, and i feel strongly my record as a mayor, as a governor, as a United States senator is open to scrutiny and i have a strong record of standing up for the people and being a peace maker with unions, and as a Senator dealing with other countries on the foreign relations committee, so I look forward to a new direction; fresh ideas for America, i firmly believe, for our children and grandchildren. *Berman*: You have a unique perspective, you’ve been a Republican, you were an independent, you were a Democrat. There’s so much gridlock in Washington and around the country right now and you’ve had a perspective from every different angle. Who is the most to blame? Who needs to do more to correct their actions here to fix this problem? (*8:12) Chafee:* Well President Bush the second, George W. Bush really set this country back, i believe. First the tax cuts that gave us the depression, and then the war in Iraq, and a record of prevarication. Just saying one thing as a candidate and then doing something else. Even Scott McClellan, his press secretary, said it was a culture of prevarication. So, I’d give a lot of blame to Republicans, which I was at the time and one of the big reasons i left. To take a surplus, turn it into deficits; to take a peaceful world, turn it into a chaotic world- that’s on the Republican watch. *(8:13) Cuomo*: John is taking one tack on your changing parties. The way you are going to hear it from your adversaries is, that is the biggest sin in politics that there is. This man, the governor did not just go from one party to another, he changed twice…They are going to bang you over the head with that all day. This guy doesn't know who he is, he doesn’t know where he stands, he went from a Republican to an independent to a Democrat, we need leadership that is direct and secure. *Chafee*: The flaw in that argument is that i have a 30-year record to look at, and when they look at that 30-year record they’re going to see absolute consistency, on fiscal responsibility, on the environment, on using the tools of government the less fortunate, on keeping us out of quagmires, on civil liberties, on a number of issues, rock-solid consistency. *Berman:* You are saying a reverse Ronald Reagan, I did not leave the Democratic Party the Democratic Party left me? *Chafee*: yeah, There’s no room for liberal Republicans in the Republican Party. I got primary’d in my reelection for Senate in 2006 by the right wing- I won it, but it cost me the general. That’s what is happening, they primary the liberal Republicans. *(8:14) Cuomo:* You think the DNC will let you have a fair shot? *Chafee*: I do. i do. Elections are about choices. They should be. That’s America. *Cuomo*: You think you can raise the money? *Chafee:* America loves an underdog. No doubt i am an underdog. I’m not going to raise a billion dollars, I don’t think I can raise a billion dollars. *Berman:* Governor, Senator, Lincoln Chafee. Thank you so much for being with us. Really appreciate you being here today. *Chafee:* Thank you John. -- Nandi Robinson 313-258-0339 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HRCRapid" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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