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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
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7 RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR
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12 TESTIMONY
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14 SPECIAL AGENT E.
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18 Federal Grand Jury 07-103
Federal Building
19 U.S. Courthouse
West Palm Beach, Florida
20 Tuesday, May 22, 2007
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22 APPEARANCES:
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Exhibit 29
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( 1 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT
2 was taken before the
3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division,
4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach
5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22,
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7 Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court
8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews
10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
11 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn
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1 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)
2 THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear
3 that the testimony you give will be the
4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
5 truth, so help you God?
6 THE WITNESS: I do.
7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be
8 seated.
9 EXAMINATION
10 BY MS.
1 1 Q Good afternoon, Special Agent.
12 A Good afternoon.
13 Q Could you remind the grand jury of your
14 name and with whom you are employed?
15 A It's
16 I'm a
17 special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach
18 and I work violent crimes.
19 Q Are you the case agent on Operation Leap
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21 A Yes, I am.
22 Q Okay. Before we get back to our review
23 of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a
24 question was raised regarding whether the grand
25 jury transcripts are being made available to
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1 counsel for the defense, are they?
2 A No.
3 Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high
4 flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's
5 Office?
6 A Yes, he is.
7 Q So is the status of the investigation in
8 terms of when an indictment might be returned
9 considered highly confidential?
10 A Yes.
1 1 Q And are there any personal relationships
12 between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office
13 and counsel for Mr. Epstein?
14 A Yes.
15 Q And is that one of the reasons why we
16 have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring
17 to this case?
18 A Yes.
19 Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to
20 the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number
21 Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit
22 about Jane Doe Number Five?
23 A Jane Doe Number Five is
24 date of birth is We have phone
25 activity that began with when she was 17
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1 years old beginning in November of 2004, going
2 through to almost April, I guess, to the end of
3 March 2005.
4 We have contact, telephone contact
5 between and with
6 approximately 70 phone calls in that time period
7 as well as approximately seven phone calls with
8 regarding the setting up of
9 appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein.
10 Q Now did explain how she was
1 1 first introduced to Mr. Epstein?
12 A Yes, she did. . was the one
13 that approached also attends
14 High School as well as our other
15 first four girls on the board, the Jane Does up
16 there.
17 told her that she would need to
18 wear something sexy, that she would be providing
19 Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would
20 receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell
21 Mr. Epstein that she was 18.
22 On the first massage that went
23 to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at
24 his request and she performed the massage. She
25 was paid $300 for that massage.
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f 1 During that massage, she told Mr.
2 Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked
3 her age. They also discussed many things that
4 was interested in.
5 They talked about his ranch. They
6 talked about horses. They actually also talked
7 about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstein
8 let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a
9 brand new Lexus. So those were some of her
10 interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about
11 that.
12 told us that the massages became
13 more sexual in nature and she stated that she did
14 more than ten massages, but that she couldn't
15 quite put a number on how many massages she
16 provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely
17 more than ten.
18 She was not when she was interviewed
19 by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell
20 them that it was more around five or six massages.
21 She stated that she minimized to the detectives
22 when they came to interview her.
23 They came to her house and her dad was
24 due home any time and what was foremost on her
25 mind was my dad is going to be here any minute.
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1 She cooperated.
2 She told them what had happened, but she
3 minimized it more in an effort that she just
4 wanted them to leave before her parents got home.
At this point, her parents were not aware of what
6 took place.
7 As the massages became more sexual in
8 nature, she describes that the first sexual
9 massage he always instructed her on what to do,
10 and on the first massage he had asked her to
11 remove her clothing.
12 She was down to her underwear at this
13 point. He asked her
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15 He at that
16 point reached through her legs and masturbated.
17 On another occasion, she was completely
18 nude and she did several of the massages in the
19 nude for Mr. Epstein.
20 In this particular massage, she stated
21 that Mr. Epstein
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24 She pulled away and he said that he
25 wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to
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1 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then
2 before the massage was over, he digitally
3 penetrated her again.
4 He had used a back massager on her on at
5 least two occasions. She did not like that and
6 she told him that and he responded something to
7 the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure?
a And she told him she didn't like it.
9 On the second to the last massage that
10 gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a
1 1 massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked
12 her to get fully unclothed.
13 He actually took a phone call and told
14 her that she should get undressed and lay on the
15 bed completely naked. He just wanted to look at
16 her. He took his phone call.
17 After the phone call was over, he ended
18 up vaginally penetrating Felicia as well as
19 performing oral sex on a. She said that she
20 felt very dirty after that massage or after that
21 time and she had decided that the next massage
22 would be her last massage, that she did not want
23 to go back.
24 During the last massage she gave, she
25 kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented
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1 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and
2 she made reference to that her boyfriend was
3 waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she
4 was ruining his massage and that if she didn't
5 want to be here she should leave.
6 She told him at this time this would be
7 her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300
to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr.
9 Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that
10 first time or took her upstairs and set up the
1 1 massage table.
12 She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein
13 as well. She received bra and pantie sets from
14 him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She
15 also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein.
16 She was Western Unioned a wire of $200
17 as a Christmas bonus to
Milk from Mr. Epstein.
18 Q How did I=. get to and from Mr.
19 Epstein's home?
20 A She had a vehicle that she would drive
21 if she didn't ride with one of the other girls.
22 If she was grounded and could not get to Mr.
23 Epstein's house, he would send a car for her.
24 There was a local taxi service and she
25 stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln
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1 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual
2 by the name of Dennis that she got to know pretty
3 well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's
4 house, but that even when she didn't have
5 transportation on those particular times, that a
6 car was sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's
7 house.
8 Q Is there anything else that you wanted
9 to tell the grand jury about
10 A That's it.
11 Q All right. If I could direct you to the
12 proposed draft indictment, draft proposed
13 indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Acts
14 that involve Jane Doe Number Five and
15 Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65,
16 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 1 1 1
17 Can you explain to the grand jury what
18 the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts?
19 A We have reviewed phone records that
20 indicates that there was telephonic contact
21 between and on those dates as
22 well as
IME statements that was
23 arranging the appointments.
24 Q All right. And if I can refer you to
25 Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about
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1 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a
2 Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to
3 Jane Doe Number Five.
4 What evidence do you have to support
5 that?
6 A We have IME statements and we also
7 have the Western Union receipt showing that she
8 received that amount of money.
9 Q And those were in response to a subpoena
10 issued on behalf of this grand jury?
11 A Yes.
12 Q If I could direct you to Overt Act
13 Number 82 involving What is the
14 basis for that Overt Act?
15 A Again, a review of the phone records
16 from and telephone indicate
17 that they had contact at that time.
18 Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on
19 or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed
20 a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five.
21 What is the basis for that allegation?
22 A We have reviewed the message pads that
23 were recovered during the execution of the state
24 search warrant and recovered a message that
25 left for confirming an appointment
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1 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read
2 that to you.
3 Q Sure.
4 A It's a message for dated January
5 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from a and it
6 says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it
7 says she is confirming 5:30 p.m.
8 Q All right. And then with respect to
9 Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 1 15 related to
10 in what is the evidence supporting those Overt
11 Acts?
12 A Again, a review of the phone records of
13 and We show that there was
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14 telephonic contact on those dates.
15 Q And then if I could refer you to
16 substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is
17 the enticement charge. Can you just remind the
18 grand jury of the evidence supporting that
19 allegation?
20 A On or about those dates, a facility of
21 interstate commerce was used, specifically the
22 telephone between and
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24 Those telephones were used to set up and
25 arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we
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1 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual
2 activity that took place, the straddling of him by
3 where he began to masturbate between
4 his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she
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7 He digitally penetrated her, as we
8 talked about.
9 and he had sexual
10 intercourse with as well as performed oral
1 1 sex on
12 He paid anywhere from $300 to
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13 $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book,
14 a Secret underwear. It was
15 who had set up the room with the massage table and
16 set out the oils.
17 And then, of course, we did discuss the
18 private car that was sent to her when she wasn't
19 available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I
20 didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck
21 payment for her when she was short on money. So
22 that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided
23 to and she was 17 during all of this
24 activity.
25 Q All right. And if I could refer you to
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1 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking
2 offense. Is the information that you just
3 summarized the same information that supports that
4 count?
5 A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell
6 you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that
7 she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visits
8 later they discussed her birthday. They were
9 talking about her birthday and her plans for her
10 birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said
11 something to the effect like: You are going to be
12 18? And she said yes.
13 And he said: So you are not 18? She
14 laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and
15 they continued on with the massage. So Mr.
16 Epstein was aware through that conversation that
17 had not yet turned 18.
18 Q All right.
19 Are there any questions
20 regarding before we continue? All
21 right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number
22 Six.
23 THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the
24 traveling count?
25 No, we are not going to
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1 do those today.
2 THE WITNESS: Okay.
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4 Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number
5 Six's first name and her date of birth?
6 A Jane Doe Number Six is She
7 also attended High School and her
8 date of birth is
9 Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be
10 introduced to Mr. Epstein?
1 1 A . also contacted -- or told
12 about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told
13 -- which I'm going to refer to her ase
14 That's what she goes by, but her name is
15 That he wanted cute girls to give him
16 massages and that he would pay $200.
17 We had have contact starting with
18 in July of 2000 between and that
19 phone contact continues until September 2005.
20 Between this time period, we have over 200 --
21 approximately 225 calls between and
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23 During first massage,
24 brought over there and was paid $200 by Mr.
25 Epstein. She left. performed the first
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1 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt
2 and her shirt off.
3 She said no at first and later in the
4 massage, the way puts it, is that he talked
5 her into it and she removed her shirt, which she
6 was not wearing a bra at the time.
7 Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He
8 asked her to remove her panties and she said no.
9 He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the
10 massage was over. She was paid $200 for that.
11 She, at that point, she did start
12 working for Epstein on a regular basis. She
13 indicated that she had been there hundreds of
14 times over this time period.
15 She told us -- and I'm going to read a
16 quote to you that she said to me or said to not to
17 me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this
18 is referring to after the first time that she went
19 there.
20 She said I first told him that I had a
21 problem with it, what happened the first time,
22 but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a
23 16 -year -old girl making six bucks an hour.
24 Now that was a statement she made to law
25 enforcement. Going through her phone records and
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1 during her interview with law enforcement, she
2 goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17.
3 It's now over a year since she started
4 working -- a year and a half since she started
5 working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying
6 to retrace her age, she did say that, but we
7 believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone
8 contact.
9 So we are not sure when that first
10 massage started, but the phone contact with
1 1 began in July of '04 when she would have
12 been 17.
13 Q And just to be clear, during that
14 interview with law enforcement, did Alex have
15 access to her phone records?
16 A No.
17 Q And the interviewing officer also didn't
18 have access to those records, correct?
19 A No.
20 Q So she was just saying she couldn't
21 remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time?
22 A Right.
23 As I said, she became kind of a regular.
24 He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he
25 could touch her. She stated that the massages
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1 would progress over time and at first she would
2 not take off her panties, then she did.
3 She performed the massages naked. He
4 would rub vagina. He also digitally
5 penetrated He performed oral sex one
6 He would masturbate while rubbing himself on
7 breasts.
8 Later in the times that was
9 performing the massages, he requested that she
10 become sexually involved with
11 Mr. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on
12 and refused and Mr. Epstein told her
13 that if she was to perform oral sex on for
14 five minutes, he would give her another $200. So
15 she did.
16 and engaged in sexual
17 activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would
18 also partake in that sexual activity as well. On
19 one occasion with all three of them, as we had
20 mentioned earlier in a grand jury session,
21 the massage was over and _was standing up near
22 the massage table and Mr. Epstein
23 penetrated
24 vagina.
25 I think she described it as that he went
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1 inside her four or five times with his penis and
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5 And when he first digitally penetrated
6 her on the first time, she, you know, asked him
7 why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we
8 had done this before.
9 And later he continues to digitally
10 penetrate her. On this occasion, she said: What
1 1 are you doing?
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13 Q So at the time that that occurred, she
14 still had a rule with him, but the rule was that
15 he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis?
16 A Right.
17 And Mr. Epstein gave we'll talk
18 about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr.
19 Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had
20 seven miles on it.
21 believes that that car was bought
22 for her. We have reason to believe it was most
23 likely rented and we are determining that right
24 now, but he gave her this.
25 It only had seven miles and she gave
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1 that back to him before she got out of high
2 school. And she said, and this is her quote: It
3 got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was
4 willing to give.
5 She stated that Epstein requested her to
6 have sex with him multiple times and also wanted
7 him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him
8 and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew
9 that that was not going to happen.
10 And, again, that's one of the reasons
11 why she ended up giving back the car because it
12 just was getting a little bit, as she referred to,
13 sticky for her.
14 After that occasion, where he did
15 penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after
16 that. Some of the gifts that she received other
17 than the car, she describes that as La
18 Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she
19 received.
20 She received Christmas bonuses, movie
21 tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David
22 Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to
23 the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton
24 bag.
25 was in a play at her high school
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1 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two
2 dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had
3 them delivered to her high school while she was
4 performing at this play.
5 He also for her 18th birthday, he flew
6 her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was
7 flown up there on her birthday and that was done
8 because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal
9 with the parental consent needed to fly somebody
10 under the age of 18 to New York.
11 So on her 18th birthday with his
12 funding, she flew to New York. She received show
13 tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was
14 not present in New York at this time. He was
15 called away and was not there.
16 So she does have friends in New York and
17 she stayed with those friends and attended the
18 show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets
19 for. The other thing about is she said that
20 she would get paid every time she would go over
21 there and she said she feels like she went over
22 there hundreds of times.
23 She said that sometimes he would just
24 have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He
25 would sometimes just ask her to lay with him
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1 naked. She was still always paid and he would
2 invite her over for breakfast.
3 He would invite her to dinner and
4 sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was
5 always paid for coming over there.
6 Q Let me ask about a couple of other
7 things. You mentioned the specific conversation
8 about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday
9 so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent
10 for her flight?
11 A Yes.
12 Q And you mentioned the delivery of the
13 roses to the high school. In addition to those,
14 were other events that occurred that should have
15 led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein
16 to know that she was under the age of 18?
17 A Yes. One of the things that told
18 me is that she believed she stayed with him so
19 long because she believed that he was going to
20 help her get into New York University, NYU.
21 She provided him on multiple occasions
22 paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to,
23 you know, do what she could to keep her grades up,
24 do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein
25 with his influence residing in New York was going
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1 to be able to get her into NYU.
2 That again is one of the reasons why she
3 stayed because she felt that if she held on for
4 so long hoping that this dream would come true.
5 She is currently attending Florida State
6 University and doing very well.
7 Q Do we have any other documentation of
8 receiving payments from someone who worked
9 for Mr. Epstein?
10 A We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house
1 1 manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get
12 his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment
13 that he paid out of his funds to I'll'
14 Q Now was ever shown any photo
15 lineup?
16 A Yes, she was.
17 Q And was she able to identify any of the
18 defendants?
19 A She identified
20 Q And was that the photo array that was
21 shown to her?
22 A Yes, it was.
23 Q Was -- are counsel for the
24 defendants aware of allegations against Mr.
25 Epstein?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q And have they attempted to discredit
3 her?
4 A Yes.
5 Q And is one of the bases for their
6 attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't
7 appear before the State Grand Jury?
8 A Yes.
9 Q Are you aware of whether or not Alex was
10 ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand
11 Jury?
12 A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm
13 not sure if she received that. Either she
14 received it the day before or she didn't receive
15 it at all and I would need to check my notes and
16 she is up in Tallahassee, mind you.
17 So she was either served the day before
18 that grand jury convened or she never received it
19 and I would need to check with probably the
20 detective for sure on that.
21 Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations
22 related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed
23 indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts
24 Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68,
25 and 73.
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1 If you could tell the grand jury what
2 the evidence is that supports those allegations?
3 A Review of those phone records on those
4 dates indicate that there was telephonic contact
5 between and as well as
6 statements that she was called by prior to
7 and while Mr. Epstein was in town.
8 Q All right. And if I could refer you to
9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about
10 December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a
11 written message to Defendant Epstein regarding
12 Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven.
13 Could you tell the grand jury about
14 that?
15 A We have reviewed message pads that,
16 again, were obtained in the execution of a state
17 search warrant that indicates that left a
18 message for Mr. Epstein regarding and
19 who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have
20 that here. If I can read it to you?
21 Q Sure.
22 For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time
23 is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like
24 to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses,
25 is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at
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1 7:30.
2 Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count
3 Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the
4 grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the
5 dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004,
6 until December 29th, 2004, what was the
7 significance of those dates?
8 A This would be the time period that
9 is still under the age of 18.
10 Q That she was receiving phone calls from
1 1 someone who worked for Mr. Epstein?
12 A Yes.
13 Q Okay. And then if you could just
14 summarize the remainder of the evidence according
15 to that count?
16 A Okay. On or about those dates a
17 facility of interstate commerce was used,
18 specifically the telephone, specificallyM
19 and telephones were utilized to
20 set up and arrange appointments for Mr Epstein.
21 During the massages, Epstein fondled
22 breasts. Epstein used the back massager
23 and vibrator directly on vagina. Epstein
24 performed oral sex on and Epstein penetrated
25 vagina with his penis.
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1 Mr. Epstein introduced
2 into the sexual activity with . and
3 engaged in sexual activity while Epstein
4 watched and masturbated.
5 Epstein asked to perform oral sex
6 on and when she refused he offered her $200
7 for five minutes. complied. There were
8 different sex toys used on including a
9 strap -on dildo that i used.
10 Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000
11 depending on the sexual activity that took place.
12 had taken upstairs. She set up
13 for the massage.
14 Epstein paid for a trip to New York for
15 her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera
16 tickets. He rented or provided a car to
17 He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a
18 Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra
19 and pantie set.
20 He also provided her with a bathing suit
21 on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her
22 that he was going to help her get into New York
23 University. She believed that was the case. She
24 provided him with her high school transcript and
25 she was 17 at the time.
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1 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is
2 that the same evidence that supports that count?
3 A Yes, it does.
4 Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you
5 mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number
6 Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were
7 introduced to Mr. Epstein by
8 Is another Jane Doe who will be
9 discussed at a later time?
10 A Yes.
11 Any questions about Jane
12 Doe Number Six?
13 Yes.
14 A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm
15 allowed to ask this, and you don't have to
16 answer it, but how did the parents do they
17 ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton
18 purse? I mean, how do they not know anything
19 like a car?
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21 Q Did you -- have you interviewed
22 parents?
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1 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is
2 that something that you are going to discuss?
3 In the future. As I
4 mentioned before, there's -- that question
5 is pending and I want to get a definitive
6 answer before we go through that.
7 A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that.
8 A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54
9 on this.
10 A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the
1 1 next page.
12 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank
13 you.
14 THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question.
15 The Palm Beach Police Department -- did
16 tell the Palm Beach Police Department that
17 her mother believed that she worked there,
18 and I would need to go back and check, but I
19 believe that she worked there as a -- I want
20 to say like an assistant or answered the
21 phones or something like that.
22 And at one point, her mother thought
23 there might have been more going on and
24 actually did end going over there for a
25 time period, but then she did resume later.
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1 A GRAND JUROR: Okay.
2 Any other questions?
3
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5 Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number
6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first
7 name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of
8 birth?
9 A Jane Doe Number Seven is and
10 her date of birth is
11 Q How did come to go to Mr.
12 Epstein's house?
13 A worked at the mall, and that
14 through working at the mall, and Or
15 Jane Doe Number Six told that she could
16 make extra money by providing a massage to Mr.
17 Epstein.
18 told her that she may have to be
19 naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to
20 she didn't have to. We have the contact, the
21 telephonic contact between
22 beginning in July 2004 and through
23 November of 2005.
24 There is approximately 100 calls between
25 and there is around
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1 seven calls, approximately seven calls to
2 in between and and approximately
3 eight calls between and
4 stated that she went about 15
5 times to Mr. Epstein's house. is the
6 first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to
7 High School and does not attend
8 High School.
9 On first massage, took
10 upstairs for the first massage and set up
1 1 the room. Epstein instructed to leave the
12 room. During the massage, Epstein asked
13 to remove her clothing. She removed only her
14 shirt.
15 described Epstein as being --
16 she described him as a respective guy, who would
17 converse with her. She said that they discussed
18 different life issues such as where wanted
19 to attend college in the future.
20 He also gave her advice. She didn't
21 have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her
22 credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with
23 her parents. She performed this massage and she
24 was paid $200 for the massage.
25 told us that as the massages
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1 continued, they would then progress and become
2 more sexual. Epstein would try to go further and
3 further with
4 By the third massage, had
5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was
6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein
7 would fondle breasts.
8 He rubbed her vagina. He did not
9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her,
10 She
1 1 would tell him no on occasions and she would also
12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that
13 she did not want him to touch.
14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly
15 on vagina while he continued to
16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two
17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's
18 direction, assisted in giving the
19 massage.
20 And on -- the first time tells
21 us that was setting up the room and she
22 remained in the room and started to undress.
23 was surprised.
24 She was never asked or told this was
25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it
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1 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein.
2 and Epstein began performing sexual acts in
3 front of
4 Epstein used a massager on
5 vagina in front of as well as they both
6 performed oral sex in front of on each
7 other. also touched breasts.
8 She touched her -- touched
9 vagina. She took hand and placed it on
10 her vagina and pulled it back, pulled It
11 away.
12 did use the massager directly on
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13 vagina. Some of the gifts that
14 received, she did receive also a bathing suit,
15 which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip.
16 She received four tickets for her 18th
17 birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield
18 tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and
19 , they wired money to
20 In June of 2005, on senior
21 trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to
22 Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
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18 Federal Grand Jury 07-103
Federal Building
19 U.S. Courthouse
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20 Tuesday, May 22, 2007
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22 APPEARANCES:
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( 1 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT
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3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division,
4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach
5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22,
6 2007.
7 Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court
8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews
10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
11 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn
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1 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)
2 THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear
3 that the testimony you give will be the
4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
5 truth, so help you God?
6 THE WITNESS: I do.
7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be
8 seated.
9 EXAMINATION
10 BY MS.
1 1 Q Good afternoon, Special Agent.
12 A Good afternoon.
13 Q Could you remind the grand jury of your
14 name and with whom you are employed?
15 A It's
16 I'm a
17 special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach
18 and I work violent crimes.
19 Q Are you the case agent on Operation Leap
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21 A Yes, I am.
22 Q Okay. Before we get back to our review
23 of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a
24 question was raised regarding whether the grand
25 jury transcripts are being made available to
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1 counsel for the defense, are they?
2 A No.
3 Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high
4 flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's
5 Office?
6 A Yes, he is.
7 Q So is the status of the investigation in
8 terms of when an indictment might be returned
9 considered highly confidential?
10 A Yes.
1 1 Q And are there any personal relationships
12 between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office
13 and counsel for Mr. Epstein?
14 A Yes.
15 Q And is that one of the reasons why we
16 have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring
17 to this case?
18 A Yes.
19 Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to
20 the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number
21 Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit
22 about Jane Doe Number Five?
23 A Jane Doe Number Five is
24 date of birth is We have phone
25 activity that began with when she was 17
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1 years old beginning in November of 2004, going
2 through to almost April, I guess, to the end of
3 March 2005.
4 We have contact, telephone contact
5 between and with
6 approximately 70 phone calls in that time period
7 as well as approximately seven phone calls with
8 regarding the setting up of
9 appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein.
10 Q Now did explain how she was
1 1 first introduced to Mr. Epstein?
12 A Yes, she did. . was the one
13 that approached also attends
14 High School as well as our other
15 first four girls on the board, the Jane Does up
16 there.
17 told her that she would need to
18 wear something sexy, that she would be providing
19 Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would
20 receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell
21 Mr. Epstein that she was 18.
22 On the first massage that went
23 to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at
24 his request and she performed the massage. She
25 was paid $300 for that massage.
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f 1 During that massage, she told Mr.
2 Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked
3 her age. They also discussed many things that
4 was interested in.
5 They talked about his ranch. They
6 talked about horses. They actually also talked
7 about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstein
8 let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a
9 brand new Lexus. So those were some of her
10 interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about
11 that.
12 told us that the massages became
13 more sexual in nature and she stated that she did
14 more than ten massages, but that she couldn't
15 quite put a number on how many massages she
16 provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely
17 more than ten.
18 She was not when she was interviewed
19 by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell
20 them that it was more around five or six massages.
21 She stated that she minimized to the detectives
22 when they came to interview her.
23 They came to her house and her dad was
24 due home any time and what was foremost on her
25 mind was my dad is going to be here any minute.
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1 She cooperated.
2 She told them what had happened, but she
3 minimized it more in an effort that she just
4 wanted them to leave before her parents got home.
At this point, her parents were not aware of what
6 took place.
7 As the massages became more sexual in
8 nature, she describes that the first sexual
9 massage he always instructed her on what to do,
10 and on the first massage he had asked her to
11 remove her clothing.
12 She was down to her underwear at this
13 point. He asked her
14
15 He at that
16 point reached through her legs and masturbated.
17 On another occasion, she was completely
18 nude and she did several of the massages in the
19 nude for Mr. Epstein.
20 In this particular massage, she stated
21 that Mr. Epstein
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24 She pulled away and he said that he
25 wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to
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1 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then
2 before the massage was over, he digitally
3 penetrated her again.
4 He had used a back massager on her on at
5 least two occasions. She did not like that and
6 she told him that and he responded something to
7 the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure?
a And she told him she didn't like it.
9 On the second to the last massage that
10 gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a
1 1 massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked
12 her to get fully unclothed.
13 He actually took a phone call and told
14 her that she should get undressed and lay on the
15 bed completely naked. He just wanted to look at
16 her. He took his phone call.
17 After the phone call was over, he ended
18 up vaginally penetrating Felicia as well as
19 performing oral sex on a. She said that she
20 felt very dirty after that massage or after that
21 time and she had decided that the next massage
22 would be her last massage, that she did not want
23 to go back.
24 During the last massage she gave, she
25 kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented
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1 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and
2 she made reference to that her boyfriend was
3 waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she
4 was ruining his massage and that if she didn't
5 want to be here she should leave.
6 She told him at this time this would be
7 her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300
to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr.
9 Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that
10 first time or took her upstairs and set up the
1 1 massage table.
12 She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein
13 as well. She received bra and pantie sets from
14 him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She
15 also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein.
16 She was Western Unioned a wire of $200
17 as a Christmas bonus to
Milk from Mr. Epstein.
18 Q How did I=. get to and from Mr.
19 Epstein's home?
20 A She had a vehicle that she would drive
21 if she didn't ride with one of the other girls.
22 If she was grounded and could not get to Mr.
23 Epstein's house, he would send a car for her.
24 There was a local taxi service and she
25 stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln
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1 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual
2 by the name of Dennis that she got to know pretty
3 well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's
4 house, but that even when she didn't have
5 transportation on those particular times, that a
6 car was sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's
7 house.
8 Q Is there anything else that you wanted
9 to tell the grand jury about
10 A That's it.
11 Q All right. If I could direct you to the
12 proposed draft indictment, draft proposed
13 indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Acts
14 that involve Jane Doe Number Five and
15 Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65,
16 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 1 1 1
17 Can you explain to the grand jury what
18 the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts?
19 A We have reviewed phone records that
20 indicates that there was telephonic contact
21 between and on those dates as
22 well as
IME statements that was
23 arranging the appointments.
24 Q All right. And if I can refer you to
25 Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about
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1 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a
2 Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to
3 Jane Doe Number Five.
4 What evidence do you have to support
5 that?
6 A We have IME statements and we also
7 have the Western Union receipt showing that she
8 received that amount of money.
9 Q And those were in response to a subpoena
10 issued on behalf of this grand jury?
11 A Yes.
12 Q If I could direct you to Overt Act
13 Number 82 involving What is the
14 basis for that Overt Act?
15 A Again, a review of the phone records
16 from and telephone indicate
17 that they had contact at that time.
18 Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on
19 or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed
20 a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five.
21 What is the basis for that allegation?
22 A We have reviewed the message pads that
23 were recovered during the execution of the state
24 search warrant and recovered a message that
25 left for confirming an appointment
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1 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read
2 that to you.
3 Q Sure.
4 A It's a message for dated January
5 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from a and it
6 says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it
7 says she is confirming 5:30 p.m.
8 Q All right. And then with respect to
9 Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 1 15 related to
10 in what is the evidence supporting those Overt
11 Acts?
12 A Again, a review of the phone records of
13 and We show that there was
MIS
14 telephonic contact on those dates.
15 Q And then if I could refer you to
16 substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is
17 the enticement charge. Can you just remind the
18 grand jury of the evidence supporting that
19 allegation?
20 A On or about those dates, a facility of
21 interstate commerce was used, specifically the
22 telephone between and
23
24 Those telephones were used to set up and
25 arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we
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1 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual
2 activity that took place, the straddling of him by
3 where he began to masturbate between
4 his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she
5
6
7 He digitally penetrated her, as we
8 talked about.
9 and he had sexual
10 intercourse with as well as performed oral
1 1 sex on
12 He paid anywhere from $300 to
illillil
13 $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book,
14 a Secret underwear. It was
15 who had set up the room with the massage table and
16 set out the oils.
17 And then, of course, we did discuss the
18 private car that was sent to her when she wasn't
19 available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I
20 didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck
21 payment for her when she was short on money. So
22 that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided
23 to and she was 17 during all of this
24 activity.
25 Q All right. And if I could refer you to
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1 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking
2 offense. Is the information that you just
3 summarized the same information that supports that
4 count?
5 A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell
6 you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that
7 she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visits
8 later they discussed her birthday. They were
9 talking about her birthday and her plans for her
10 birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said
11 something to the effect like: You are going to be
12 18? And she said yes.
13 And he said: So you are not 18? She
14 laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and
15 they continued on with the massage. So Mr.
16 Epstein was aware through that conversation that
17 had not yet turned 18.
18 Q All right.
19 Are there any questions
20 regarding before we continue? All
21 right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number
22 Six.
23 THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the
24 traveling count?
25 No, we are not going to
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1 do those today.
2 THE WITNESS: Okay.
3
4 Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number
5 Six's first name and her date of birth?
6 A Jane Doe Number Six is She
7 also attended High School and her
8 date of birth is
9 Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be
10 introduced to Mr. Epstein?
1 1 A . also contacted -- or told
12 about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told
13 -- which I'm going to refer to her ase
14 That's what she goes by, but her name is
15 That he wanted cute girls to give him
16 massages and that he would pay $200.
17 We had have contact starting with
18 in July of 2000 between and that
19 phone contact continues until September 2005.
20 Between this time period, we have over 200 --
21 approximately 225 calls between and
22
23 During first massage,
24 brought over there and was paid $200 by Mr.
25 Epstein. She left. performed the first
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1 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt
2 and her shirt off.
3 She said no at first and later in the
4 massage, the way puts it, is that he talked
5 her into it and she removed her shirt, which she
6 was not wearing a bra at the time.
7 Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He
8 asked her to remove her panties and she said no.
9 He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the
10 massage was over. She was paid $200 for that.
11 She, at that point, she did start
12 working for Epstein on a regular basis. She
13 indicated that she had been there hundreds of
14 times over this time period.
15 She told us -- and I'm going to read a
16 quote to you that she said to me or said to not to
17 me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this
18 is referring to after the first time that she went
19 there.
20 She said I first told him that I had a
21 problem with it, what happened the first time,
22 but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a
23 16 -year -old girl making six bucks an hour.
24 Now that was a statement she made to law
25 enforcement. Going through her phone records and
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1 during her interview with law enforcement, she
2 goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17.
3 It's now over a year since she started
4 working -- a year and a half since she started
5 working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying
6 to retrace her age, she did say that, but we
7 believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone
8 contact.
9 So we are not sure when that first
10 massage started, but the phone contact with
1 1 began in July of '04 when she would have
12 been 17.
13 Q And just to be clear, during that
14 interview with law enforcement, did Alex have
15 access to her phone records?
16 A No.
17 Q And the interviewing officer also didn't
18 have access to those records, correct?
19 A No.
20 Q So she was just saying she couldn't
21 remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time?
22 A Right.
23 As I said, she became kind of a regular.
24 He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he
25 could touch her. She stated that the massages
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1 would progress over time and at first she would
2 not take off her panties, then she did.
3 She performed the massages naked. He
4 would rub vagina. He also digitally
5 penetrated He performed oral sex one
6 He would masturbate while rubbing himself on
7 breasts.
8 Later in the times that was
9 performing the massages, he requested that she
10 become sexually involved with
11 Mr. Epstein asked to perform oral sex on
12 and refused and Mr. Epstein told her
13 that if she was to perform oral sex on for
14 five minutes, he would give her another $200. So
15 she did.
16 and engaged in sexual
17 activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would
18 also partake in that sexual activity as well. On
19 one occasion with all three of them, as we had
20 mentioned earlier in a grand jury session,
21 the massage was over and _was standing up near
22 the massage table and Mr. Epstein
23 penetrated
24 vagina.
25 I think she described it as that he went
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1 inside her four or five times with his penis and
2
3
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5 And when he first digitally penetrated
6 her on the first time, she, you know, asked him
7 why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we
8 had done this before.
9 And later he continues to digitally
10 penetrate her. On this occasion, she said: What
1 1 are you doing?
12
13 Q So at the time that that occurred, she
14 still had a rule with him, but the rule was that
15 he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis?
16 A Right.
17 And Mr. Epstein gave we'll talk
18 about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr.
19 Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had
20 seven miles on it.
21 believes that that car was bought
22 for her. We have reason to believe it was most
23 likely rented and we are determining that right
24 now, but he gave her this.
25 It only had seven miles and she gave
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1 that back to him before she got out of high
2 school. And she said, and this is her quote: It
3 got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was
4 willing to give.
5 She stated that Epstein requested her to
6 have sex with him multiple times and also wanted
7 him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him
8 and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew
9 that that was not going to happen.
10 And, again, that's one of the reasons
11 why she ended up giving back the car because it
12 just was getting a little bit, as she referred to,
13 sticky for her.
14 After that occasion, where he did
15 penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after
16 that. Some of the gifts that she received other
17 than the car, she describes that as La
18 Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she
19 received.
20 She received Christmas bonuses, movie
21 tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David
22 Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to
23 the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton
24 bag.
25 was in a play at her high school
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1 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two
2 dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had
3 them delivered to her high school while she was
4 performing at this play.
5 He also for her 18th birthday, he flew
6 her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was
7 flown up there on her birthday and that was done
8 because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal
9 with the parental consent needed to fly somebody
10 under the age of 18 to New York.
11 So on her 18th birthday with his
12 funding, she flew to New York. She received show
13 tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was
14 not present in New York at this time. He was
15 called away and was not there.
16 So she does have friends in New York and
17 she stayed with those friends and attended the
18 show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets
19 for. The other thing about is she said that
20 she would get paid every time she would go over
21 there and she said she feels like she went over
22 there hundreds of times.
23 She said that sometimes he would just
24 have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He
25 would sometimes just ask her to lay with him
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1 naked. She was still always paid and he would
2 invite her over for breakfast.
3 He would invite her to dinner and
4 sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was
5 always paid for coming over there.
6 Q Let me ask about a couple of other
7 things. You mentioned the specific conversation
8 about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday
9 so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent
10 for her flight?
11 A Yes.
12 Q And you mentioned the delivery of the
13 roses to the high school. In addition to those,
14 were other events that occurred that should have
15 led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein
16 to know that she was under the age of 18?
17 A Yes. One of the things that told
18 me is that she believed she stayed with him so
19 long because she believed that he was going to
20 help her get into New York University, NYU.
21 She provided him on multiple occasions
22 paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to,
23 you know, do what she could to keep her grades up,
24 do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein
25 with his influence residing in New York was going
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1 to be able to get her into NYU.
2 That again is one of the reasons why she
3 stayed because she felt that if she held on for
4 so long hoping that this dream would come true.
5 She is currently attending Florida State
6 University and doing very well.
7 Q Do we have any other documentation of
8 receiving payments from someone who worked
9 for Mr. Epstein?
10 A We have Janusz Banasiak. It was a house
1 1 manager for Mr. Epstein and we were able to get
12 his petty cash receipts and in there is a payment
13 that he paid out of his funds to I'll'
14 Q Now was ever shown any photo
15 lineup?
16 A Yes, she was.
17 Q And was she able to identify any of the
18 defendants?
19 A She identified
20 Q And was that the photo array that was
21 shown to her?
22 A Yes, it was.
23 Q Was -- are counsel for the
24 defendants aware of allegations against Mr.
25 Epstein?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q And have they attempted to discredit
3 her?
4 A Yes.
5 Q And is one of the bases for their
6 attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't
7 appear before the State Grand Jury?
8 A Yes.
9 Q Are you aware of whether or not Alex was
10 ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand
11 Jury?
12 A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm
13 not sure if she received that. Either she
14 received it the day before or she didn't receive
15 it at all and I would need to check my notes and
16 she is up in Tallahassee, mind you.
17 So she was either served the day before
18 that grand jury convened or she never received it
19 and I would need to check with probably the
20 detective for sure on that.
21 Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations
22 related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed
23 indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts
24 Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51 , 52, 55, 62, 68,
25 and 73.
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1 If you could tell the grand jury what
2 the evidence is that supports those allegations?
3 A Review of those phone records on those
4 dates indicate that there was telephonic contact
5 between and as well as
6 statements that she was called by prior to
7 and while Mr. Epstein was in town.
8 Q All right. And if I could refer you to
9 Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about
10 December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a
11 written message to Defendant Epstein regarding
12 Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven.
13 Could you tell the grand jury about
14 that?
15 A We have reviewed message pads that,
16 again, were obtained in the execution of a state
17 search warrant that indicates that left a
18 message for Mr. Epstein regarding and
19 who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have
20 that here. If I can read it to you?
21 Q Sure.
22 For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time
23 is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like
24 to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses,
25 is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at
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1 7:30.
2 Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count
3 Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the
4 grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the
5 dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004,
6 until December 29th, 2004, what was the
7 significance of those dates?
8 A This would be the time period that
9 is still under the age of 18.
10 Q That she was receiving phone calls from
1 1 someone who worked for Mr. Epstein?
12 A Yes.
13 Q Okay. And then if you could just
14 summarize the remainder of the evidence according
15 to that count?
16 A Okay. On or about those dates a
17 facility of interstate commerce was used,
18 specifically the telephone, specificallyM
19 and telephones were utilized to
20 set up and arrange appointments for Mr Epstein.
21 During the massages, Epstein fondled
22 breasts. Epstein used the back massager
23 and vibrator directly on vagina. Epstein
24 performed oral sex on and Epstein penetrated
25 vagina with his penis.
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1 Mr. Epstein introduced
2 into the sexual activity with . and
3 engaged in sexual activity while Epstein
4 watched and masturbated.
5 Epstein asked to perform oral sex
6 on and when she refused he offered her $200
7 for five minutes. complied. There were
8 different sex toys used on including a
9 strap -on dildo that i used.
10 Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000
11 depending on the sexual activity that took place.
12 had taken upstairs. She set up
13 for the massage.
14 Epstein paid for a trip to New York for
15 her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera
16 tickets. He rented or provided a car to
17 He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a
18 Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra
19 and pantie set.
20 He also provided her with a bathing suit
21 on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her
22 that he was going to help her get into New York
23 University. She believed that was the case. She
24 provided him with her high school transcript and
25 she was 17 at the time.
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1 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is
2 that the same evidence that supports that count?
3 A Yes, it does.
4 Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you
5 mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number
6 Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were
7 introduced to Mr. Epstein by
8 Is another Jane Doe who will be
9 discussed at a later time?
10 A Yes.
11 Any questions about Jane
12 Doe Number Six?
13 Yes.
14 A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm
15 allowed to ask this, and you don't have to
16 answer it, but how did the parents do they
17 ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton
18 purse? I mean, how do they not know anything
19 like a car?
20
21 Q Did you -- have you interviewed
22 parents?
23
24
25 A GRAND JUROR: My question is that I
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1 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is
2 that something that you are going to discuss?
3 In the future. As I
4 mentioned before, there's -- that question
5 is pending and I want to get a definitive
6 answer before we go through that.
7 A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that.
8 A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54
9 on this.
10 A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the
1 1 next page.
12 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank
13 you.
14 THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question.
15 The Palm Beach Police Department -- did
16 tell the Palm Beach Police Department that
17 her mother believed that she worked there,
18 and I would need to go back and check, but I
19 believe that she worked there as a -- I want
20 to say like an assistant or answered the
21 phones or something like that.
22 And at one point, her mother thought
23 there might have been more going on and
24 actually did end going over there for a
25 time period, but then she did resume later.
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1 A GRAND JUROR: Okay.
2 Any other questions?
3
4
5 Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number
6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first
7 name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of
8 birth?
9 A Jane Doe Number Seven is and
10 her date of birth is
11 Q How did come to go to Mr.
12 Epstein's house?
13 A worked at the mall, and that
14 through working at the mall, and Or
15 Jane Doe Number Six told that she could
16 make extra money by providing a massage to Mr.
17 Epstein.
18 told her that she may have to be
19 naked for this massage, but if she didn't want to
20 she didn't have to. We have the contact, the
21 telephonic contact between
22 beginning in July 2004 and through
23 November of 2005.
24 There is approximately 100 calls between
25 and there is around
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1 seven calls, approximately seven calls to
2 in between and and approximately
3 eight calls between and
4 stated that she went about 15
5 times to Mr. Epstein's house. is the
6 first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to
7 High School and does not attend
8 High School.
9 On first massage, took
10 upstairs for the first massage and set up
1 1 the room. Epstein instructed to leave the
12 room. During the massage, Epstein asked
13 to remove her clothing. She removed only her
14 shirt.
15 described Epstein as being --
16 she described him as a respective guy, who would
17 converse with her. She said that they discussed
18 different life issues such as where wanted
19 to attend college in the future.
20 He also gave her advice. She didn't
21 have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her
22 credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with
23 her parents. She performed this massage and she
24 was paid $200 for the massage.
25 told us that as the massages
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1 continued, they would then progress and become
2 more sexual. Epstein would try to go further and
3 further with
4 By the third massage, had
5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was
6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein
7 would fondle breasts.
8 He rubbed her vagina. He did not
9 penetrate -- did not digitally penetrate her,
10 She
1 1 would tell him no on occasions and she would also
12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that
13 she did not want him to touch.
14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly
15 on vagina while he continued to
16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two
17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's
18 direction, assisted in giving the
19 massage.
20 And on -- the first time tells
21 us that was setting up the room and she
22 remained in the room and started to undress.
23 was surprised.
24 She was never asked or told this was
25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it
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1 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein.
2 and Epstein began performing sexual acts in
3 front of
4 Epstein used a massager on
5 vagina in front of as well as they both
6 performed oral sex in front of on each
7 other. also touched breasts.
8 She touched her -- touched
9 vagina. She took hand and placed it on
10 her vagina and pulled it back, pulled It
11 away.
12 did use the massager directly on
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13 vagina. Some of the gifts that
14 received, she did receive also a bathing suit,
15 which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip.
16 She received four tickets for her 18th
17 birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield
18 tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and
19 , they wired money to
20 In June of 2005, on senior
21 trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to
22 Cancun, Mexico. She ran out of money and they
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