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From: Lawrence Krauss <
To: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com>
Cc: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Proposed possible letter to solicitors in Australia
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:51:15 +0000
I put everything in there.. as I said, my original impression is that items 1-5 would be the only things that might
be actionable, but I wanted them to know everything, including the things that might be less than positive from
the perspective of a suit.
I could end the letter with item 5 and ask for advice..
Also, I never said the woman said I grabbed her breast by accident. I said what she said in her anonymous
testimony to ASU..
btw.. I think the second memo to OEI is the most powerful, even though it doesn't relate to the actual event.. It
definitively shows that ASU provided no support for my attendance at the meeting and the event is therefore out
of their purview.. at least on the grounds they originally claimed..
I really wish you would stop sending these to my asu acct.. and send to instead.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica
On Sep 3, 2018, at 11:44 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
thx very helpful. this is why you need to review with a professional. LAWRENCE get some sleep .
this is awful , silly , misleading. false. trite etc. concialition strategy I will gladly be of any help i can. .
she claimed she was warned about me. 999??e and you thing that is defamatory. ? case university
suggested you not return without notice. . if you dont own these things you will be out on the street. .
perimeter is another issue.. the woman said you grabeed her breast by accident. ! she will change her
tune... I will not review any more of these silly letters, . appeal appeal appeal
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Lawrence Krauss c > wrote:
Proposed letter.. thoughts?
Dear ..
In February of this year, the online tabloid BuzzFeed published a defaming story about me (as did one or two
other news outlets in Australia that picked up the Buzzfeed story). The story had a significant information
that was untrue. BuzzFeed had originally planned to run it last Decembe but pulled the story after I provided
them with sufficient counter-evidence for them to hold it. After that they revised some of the details, and
added other equally untrue allegations.
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Be that as it may, the story originated in the complaint of one Melanie Thomson, who claimed to observe me
grabbing the breast of a woman during the taking of a selfie at a banquet associated with the Australian
Skeptics Convention in November 2016. The individual involved in the alleged groping did not file a
complaint, or talk to BuzzFeed, nor did she talk to either Australian National University, where Thomson
filed a complaint that was dismissed, or Arizona State University, where it was also dismissed. (I had
affiliations with both institutions at the time.).
After the dismissal, Ms. Thomson approached several news sources and the only one to bite was BuzzFeed,
which began their investigation for the story. After the BuzzFeed story appeared in Feb 2018, ASU put me
on leave with pay, and sent a press release out about this. Following that, and the BuzzFeed story itself, all
external speaking engagements, including an upcoming lecture tour in Australia, were cancelled, book
contracts were cancelled, and my positions on a variety of boards were removed.
Ms Thomson has been quite public about her claims, which contain a variety of provable falsehoods. Her
central claim, which is not directly disprovable, was to see me grab someone's breast from a distance of 20
feet at a reception associated with the conference. The woman in question, who as I said above, did not
report the event, nor discuss it with the media, eventually did discuss it (anonymously) with ASU after they
reached out to her a second time following the BuzzFeed piece. She described it as a `clumsy interpersonal
interaction' in which she did not feel victimized, and which she had asked Ms. Thomson not to report or file
a complaint about.
Associated with her claim however, there are many factual falsehoods presented by Ms. Thomson on
websites, in the media, and to ASU are:
I. she provided the selfie in question, which shows my hand in motion in front of the anonymous woman.
She claimed the breast grab occurred an instant after the photo was taken. However, the photograph shows
my hand moving away from the woman, not toward her.
2. She claimed in print, and to ANU that another photograph exists showing me touching the woman's
breast. She could not produce the photograph even after repeated requests from ANU to do so.
3. She claimed that the woman in question did not know me. The woman said the opposite in her testimony
to ASU.
4. She claimed that the organization in question said they would not have me back. No complaint was made
to the organization, and they helped host me for an event in 2017.
5. She claimed the meeting was a scientific meeting at which I was representing ASU. It was an atheist
meeting and ASU did not provide any support for my travel to it or for the meeting itself.
These are manifestly false. There are other defamatory claims that are also false, but less obviously so, and
which might be more difficult to demonstrate, and might also generate more negative publicity than positive:
6. She claims that she was warned about me and that I had a whisper network history of sexual harassment..
No complaints had ever been filed against me for sexual harassment at my current university, and no formal
complaint of sexual harassment has ever been filed against me before.
7 She claims I threatened litigation against individuals in the past who have suggested claims against me.
This is not true.
8. She claimed that a woman in Canada had made a claim similar to the complaint Ms Thomson filed, when
she was a student at a University in the US at which I taught. This was not the case. She made an informal
claim that I had said several things to her that made her uncomfortable. None was overtly sexual, and the
complaint was never formally filed, but dealt with informally. No touching involved etc..
I am of course happy to give more information and documentation, but I was contacting you now to get your
opinion as to whether, on the basis of items 1-5, whether a defamation suit in Australia would be likely to
succeed, and at what cost, financially, and publicly. I believe that while items 6-8 also involve false claims I
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understand that the discovery process associated with them that might be initiated by Ms. Thomson could,
from a publicity standard, appear damaging. I also understand that I could be made to retaliate against a poor
defenseless woman who was merely doing her duty to report what she saw so that even a positive verdict
against the woman could be a publicity problem. All these issues are ones I would want to take into account
before actually launching a suit, and one about which I would like your advice.
Sincerely,
Lawrence M. Krauss
Lawrence M. Krauss
Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State Uniyersit P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica):
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