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From: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: currency question
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 18:58:18 +0000
Or now cell?
On Friday, May 15, 2015, jeffrey E. [email protected]> wrote:
Talk Tomorw?
On Friday, May 15, 2015, Lawrence Krauss <Ma> wrote:
but there is still a game theory question.. will append it to earlier email so martin can chime in..
other things..
1. is dinner with woody and dali lama on may 19th fixed? I will be coming in to town May 26th and may
27th is my birthday.. it would be a wonderful birthday gift to be involved.. otherwise, unless you want it to
be the two of them I might even consider flying in on redeye just to be there for afternoon..
Ia. We are thinking of doing a dialogue, a la chomsky, with the Dalai Lama.. would you be willing to ask
him if he would be willing to do it with me before 3000 people on stage, perhaps this fall? (would you be
willing to fly him?)
2. if we need to entice Jane Goodall to do a dialogue in 2016 or 17 would you be willing to kick in any
money for her probably largish fee?
4. Would you want to have lunch with Michael Shannon and me sometime? he lives in NYC... I saw
iceman after you recommended it.. good.. creepy..
On May 14, 2015, at 10:19 AM, jeffrey E. leevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
No need to compromise some in the group that follow delusions get eaten . Consciousness is the
boundary
On Thursday, May 14, 2015, Lawrence Krauss <Ma> wrote:
hmmm.. have to think about this.. it is long accepted that the god myth satisfies some long standing
internal need humans have for either defense against death or need for purpose.. no doubt actions
governed by satisfying that pleasure center... the key question is where inside and outside intersect and
cannot both be satisfied together.. that is where game theory is relevant I think.. how to compromise on
satisfying hopes, and satisfying reality when trying to outsmart a charging lion..
LMK
On May 13, 2015, at 3:47 PM, jeffrey E. [email protected]> wrote:
inner domain, goals are self created. mastabatory fantasies. for example. rewards in sub domains,
social physical emotional. , some hard wired food, temp. etc. a continum of hard to self imagined. .
adapted for the outer domain, l environment, .
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outer domain subject to laws of physics . inner domain , biologically yes, but ghosts, beliefs self
deception and delusion, and most importantly hope, all actualized.
It makes little sense to apply an evidenced based system in the inner domain, it is comprised of a non
cummative li grouping, . no symmetry for example. however the image of your fantasy girl
conjured up while you pleasure yourself , is a real to the innner self as the cigarette you smoke
afterwards is to the outer domain.
Inner rewards would have been subject to natural selection, so that random killing in the inner
world would unlikely be adaptive. acts of inner revenge however could blow off steam and save outer
world consequences.
religion acts as one of many proposed belief systems to help construct an inner life. where the
unpowerful are effective. it makes as little sense for it to be a logic system operating in the outer
domain as little as a science based view on the evidence of my fantasy girl. you should find some
highly correlated inner and outer rewards but as many uncorrelated. depression might mean ignoring
the outside altogether, retreating into an inner self in order not to do harm.
the inner life should be normally distributed over subdomains as well as a homgenious popualtion . so
that some in the group receive social pleasure, some only physical. etc.
In the game theory analogy, the reserves both in the inner and outer domain play a substantial role. .
there are many experiments that show that a rational being modulates his reserves so that they last a
long time. only in certain circumstances can you access these reserves on purpose. jet pilots told to
hold their hands in ice water , until they can't take it pull out in under 150 seconds. however if you tell
them to last for 180 to make the grade 80 percent are capable. . hope meanining purpose. all self
created fictions that are selected for. . there are outward signs , confidnece , smiling , that create an
outer group;
religioin is a logic system that intersects that of science .ie being kind, has benefits in outer as well as
inner domains - as goals are aligned, believing that mohammed rode to heaven on a horse. is ok, if it
satiates the inner self. reduces blood pressure, but unable to withstand the rigor of the outer
mathematics. and is dangerious but so is that blonde, girl that always does as she is asked in your
fantasy, . uh oh, you actually married her.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
will call in a bit.. doing your letter now and other things I should have done yesterday..
here is my acceptance speech I wrote for the AHA.. you may hate it.. but I was proud of it.
Martin's suggestion may lead to another path.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
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On May 13, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
340 775 2525 its really really good
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Lawrence Krauss c wrote:
no worries.. my problem.. not yours..
doing your letter today.
today is first day I feel ok.. we need to talk again about Martin's idea.. my mind was not working
the other day...
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
On May 13, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
i had a strong view back when. now unsure
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Lawrence Krauss c > wrote:
quick question.. we have been lazy and left money in AUD. in the last 2 days it has shot up 4
cents.. should we transfer the money or expect it to rise further? Any ideas?
Lawrence M. Krauss
Foundation Professor
Director, Origins Project
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
School of Earth and Space Exploration
Arizona State University
PO Box 871404
Tem e, AZ 85287-1404
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