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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:12 AM To: Barry J. Cohen Cc: Leon Black Subject: Re: [External] Re: hopefully helpful get a tax basis for the plane and document the depre=iation taken and its benefits if any also debra an= leon I belive own this plane , who does he want to own the ne= one. =n Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Barry J. Cohen rote: Plane sale is minor los=. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:35 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@gm=il.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@=mail.com> » wrote: same idea to make sure boat sale , plane sale art sale . all pr=duce the best after tax result. On Sat, Au 5, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Barry J. Cohen < <mailtc <mailto <mailto:bcohen@a=ollolp.com> » wrote: These are all things we are trying to think about. Our new internal g=y is great, but he doesn't bring solutions with him because, like you =ay, no one is quite like Leon. Since he just joined us, we're starting=certain planning work later than we would like. EY is good but they are better at answering questions than providing proact=ve planning advice. And I am finding them a little slow. Your derivatives financing idea is a good one. Who would be a good person t= talk to about it? Justin at JPM? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:49 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@g=ail.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation=gmail.com»<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>» wr=te: barry, perfect example of what i have been trying to explain. =C2 without context the question makes little sense. =x if all is income is ordinary. selling things at a los= does nothing . however if he is getting mo=e capital gains next year. you miight generate losses and carry them=forward or back. if we think the tax rates will change we mig=t create fictiioous gains. and use the loss but have a higher =asis for next year. if the loss in on the trust side ,=C2 it is a benefit to the future tax of the children. =A0sorry to be so long winded but at least i am consistant :) On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Barry J. Cohen < <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto <mailto:bcohen@=pollolp.com»crnailto <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto >» wrote: EFTA_R1_01876679 EFTA02642091  One problem is that we want Leon to tell us what art he is interested in se=ling. I don't think he can do that. We should tell him whether we want=him to sell either his gains or his losses and why. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:30 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@g=ail.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation=gmail.com»<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]»<mai=to:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> =lt;mailto:jeevacation@gmail.=om <mailto:[email protected]> ><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> »» wrote: there has been little if any proper planning for tax this year and ne=t. this needs to be done after the program and materials are =ut in form On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Barryl. Cohen < <mailto:bcohen=apollolp.com> <mailto <mailto:bcohen@a=ollolp.com»<mailto <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto »<mailto <mailto <mailto »<ma=lto mailto <=mailto <mailto > =gt;>» wrote: I hear you. There is no blue print. I think our numbers are finally t=orough and accurate. We haven't discussed it much, but technolog= and security have been a huge focus for me since I joined Elysium. Making=slow but steady progress. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:02 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@gm=il.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:jeevacation@=mail.com»<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]»<mail=o:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> &=t;mailto:[email protected]=m <mailto:[email protected]> ><mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> <mailto:je <mailto:[email protected]> >»<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ><mailtoleevacation@gmailcom<mailto:[email protected]»=<mailtoleevacation@gmail=com <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ><mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]=> >»» wrote: After fridays discussion https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/pic-archive/=ircraft-ownership/business-justification-aircraft- expenses <https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/pic-archive/aircraft-ow=ership/business-justification-aircraft- expenses> I suggest you focus on large issues first. . the discussi=ns re personal use of plane . parties travel. may be relevant =t the tippy tip of the margins but these answers should=C2 flow from the structure. On what form will you use the =eduction. ? which business. , its structure. diffe=ent buisnesses etc. Barry , what you will find is that there is very few answers t= be found on point as people in leons position rarely make cases to tax co=rt. exception being estate issues. . =lanes owned by farmers salesman, bankers. are usua=ly small planes. meaningless to leons issue. =AO large biz gets are usually owned by corporations. . =C2 the facts. there are approx 400,000 planes in the =tates. out of that large number only about 13, 000 total priva=e jets. 2 EFTA_R1_01876680 EFTA02642092 out of that class only 2000 large jets =AO and most owned by corporations. how many people have=business of leons size . not including his art work. You asked , me what do we do now. as=l told Brad years ago. First and foremost is accur=te numbers presented in an organized fashion. that is 8= percent of the grunt work. Once all the numbers are in shape = ie materials for the building of the financial architecture.=C2 . Leons goals must be addressed and programatic . =C2 this takes hours of discussion. . next . plans are=drawn up, . modifications are made, issues of sec=regulation, tax, control, succession. mechanics. all need to b= planned and adjusted to meet the goals. You need to recognize that there are few , very few exa=ples of the house that in leons case needs to be re built. =AO most people with leons wealth have a serious family office=C2 with a huge stock portfolio. , not art. and of those , =ew hold dormant assets ie apollo. . Its been ten years=C2 since apollo went public. and the house needs total reno=ation. upgrades in tech, security, and the family has c=anged all very similar to architecting a house after the chil=ren have grown and left. please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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