The One Question No One Ever Asked George H.W. Bush

[00:00:00] I mean, I guess Jeffrey Epstein is the [00:00:01] the natural go-to, but it's kind of [00:00:03] boring. [00:00:07] >> But it would help explain. [00:00:09] >> You think Jeffrey Epste is boring? [00:00:11] >> It's the conventional answer, right? [00:00:15] >> I'd be interested to interview George HW [00:00:17] Bush. And I don't know if I could. [00:00:19] >> It is a big idea, a new world order. [00:00:23] >> And I don't know if I could pin down one [00:00:25] question for him. [00:00:26] >> What would it be about? What would the [00:00:28] subject be? Steve, [00:00:29] >> what's up? [00:00:30] >> Welcome back, dude. [00:00:31] >> Thanks for having me. [00:00:32] >> Hey, thanks for coming. [laughter] But, [00:00:36] uh, so we got this new thing since last [00:00:39] time you were here and, uh, we call it [00:00:41] the hot question. [00:00:42] >> Okay. [00:00:42] >> So, here we go. You ready? If you could [00:00:45] interview one historic figure connected [00:00:48] to fraud, corruption, or organized [00:00:51] crime, someone who would help explain [00:00:53] why things feel out of control today. [00:00:56] Who would you pick? And what's the one [00:00:58] question you would ask them? [00:01:03] >> I mean, I guess Jeffrey Epstein is the [00:01:05] the natural go-to, but it's kind of [00:01:06] boring, but it would help explain. [00:01:09] >> You think Jeffrey Epstein is boring? [00:01:11] >> It's the conventional answer, right? [00:01:12] It's the conventional answer. Um, you [00:01:15] know, uh, because he seems to be behind [00:01:17] so much of our politics and he's so in [00:01:19] the news. Uh, and I guess you you ask [00:01:21] him, you know, what foreign intelligence [00:01:23] services were you working for? Um, but [00:01:26] maybe George HW Bush. [00:01:30] >> I'd be interested to interview George HW [00:01:32] Bush. And I don't know if I could pin [00:01:34] down one picture, one question for him. [00:01:37] Um, but uh I think I would have some [00:01:40] question. [00:01:40] >> What would it be about? What would the [00:01:42] subject be? [00:01:42] >> Uh, well, I mean, uh, the extent to [00:01:46] which the CIA came to take over the [00:01:49] executive branch rather than the [00:01:51] executive branch running the CIA. [00:01:53] >> Good one. Good one. Yeah. HW HW gets HW [00:01:56] gets overlooked, I think. [00:01:58] >> Yeah. Yeah. I would uh I don't know who [00:02:00] I would do. Me and Jeremy were doing [00:02:02] this exercise earlier. The Sackler [00:02:04] family. [00:02:04] >> Oo, [00:02:05] >> that would be a good one. The [00:02:06] Rothschilds. [00:02:08] >> Yeah, those [00:02:09] >> that would be a good one. [00:02:10] >> Dick Cheney, [00:02:12] >> that would be a good one. [00:02:14] >> Those would all be I mean, Bill Clinton [00:02:15] had his opportunity. He had his [00:02:17] opportunity. He skipped it. He's now [00:02:18] going to be in contempt of Congress. [00:02:21] We're not we're not living in a two-tier [00:02:22] justice system, are we, Steve? [00:02:24] >> I don't I don't even know if he has the [00:02:25] cognitive wherewithal to actually answer [00:02:27] these questions. Supposedly, he's been [00:02:29] on this vegan diet, but he looks like [00:02:31] he's had his soul just sucked out of [00:02:32] him. All the all the recent videos of [00:02:34] him, he looks a gaunt. [00:02:35] >> It is. It's It's a lot of politicians [00:02:37] look like the soul has been sucked out [00:02:39] of them, don't they? I wonder what it [00:02:41] is. [00:02:41] >> Especially the ones close. [00:02:42] >> Maybe it's because their [ __ ] soul [00:02:43] has been sucked out of them. I don't [00:02:45] know. [laughter] [00:02:48] We're pretty fired up about all this [00:02:49] [ __ ] man. [00:02:51] >> Yeah, it's [00:02:53] >> I just can't think of really much of [00:02:54] anything positive happening. [00:02:57] >> What we've what we've seen uh what we've [00:03:01] seen of some of this the way the [00:03:03] Medicaid program is operating in Maine. [00:03:06] Uh I just watching Nick Shirley's video, [00:03:08] it's it's outrageous that all of these [00:03:11] daycarees are um empty. Clearly, it's [00:03:15] fraud, but can you imagine if they [00:03:17] actually had kids in them? [00:03:20] It'd almost be worse, right? [00:03:22] >> Actually, that's a good point. [00:03:26] And they'd probably be trafficking the [00:03:27] [ __ ] kid. They probably are [00:03:29] trafficking kids. [00:03:30] >> And what we have in Maine, as we'll get [00:03:33] into, it's not exactly the Somalies, [00:03:35] it's more central Africans, is autism [00:03:39] homes that actually do have adults in [00:03:42] them. [00:03:42] >> Oh boy. Oh boy. I know we got a lot of [00:03:45] stuff to cover. I don't want to go into [00:03:46] it in the hot question. I'll ask you [00:03:48] another question though. In regards to [00:03:50] the Somali fraud, [00:03:52] Minnesota, the [ __ ] you're saying up in [00:03:54] Maine, who would you want to talk to [00:03:56] about that? [00:04:00] Oh jeez. [00:04:03] you know, it's so decentralized [00:04:06] that there's not a there's not a lot of [00:04:11] uh it's not like it's there's a [00:04:12] leadership, there's a central plan that [00:04:14] the Somali are all executing. [00:04:16] >> I think if you could get um Jacob Fry, [00:04:21] you know, take a truth serum and talk [00:04:23] with him, that could be interesting. [00:04:26] >> Uh ditto for um Governor Mills. Um that [00:04:30] could be interesting. Um, I might go [00:04:32] back um to some of the mayors of Lewon [00:04:35] in the early 2000s when it was really [00:04:38] starting just to get their perspective. [00:04:40] >> That sounds like a total [ __ ] show [00:04:41] there. [00:04:42] >> Yeah, cuz I mean they were there. I [00:04:44] mean, this the conflict the seeds of the [00:04:46] conflict in Maine were sewed in in the [00:04:48] early 2000s when you know 300 to 400 [00:04:52] Somalies arrived from 2000 to 2003 and [00:04:55] there was um a mayor. [00:04:57] >> How many? [00:04:59] >> Like [clears throat] 300. [00:05:01] So this was this was in the in 2000 year [00:05:03] 2000 it's like 300 Somali arrived. Um [00:05:07] they came first to Atlanta and then [00:05:09] there was a secondary migration up to [00:05:11] Portland and then Portland didn't have [00:05:14] the housing that Lewon had and so [00:05:16] Portland pulled this great deal with [00:05:18] Lewon said hey wouldn't you like you [00:05:20] guys have all kinds of housing and [00:05:21] you're a declining miltown we have a [00:05:23] recipe to save Lewon. wouldn't you like [00:05:26] to take some of these families in? And [00:05:28] Lewon said yes. And 300 turned into a [00:05:32] thousand, which turned into 8,000, which [00:05:34] turned into We don't really know today. [00:05:38] Uh 15,000, 20,000. It's hard. [00:05:40] >> Yeah. There's really no way to know cuz [00:05:42] they don't document any dead, right? [00:05:44] >> Well, that's an interesting question. [00:05:46] So, you know, [00:05:47] >> the immortal smally. [00:05:48] >> I would just I would want to talk to the [00:05:51] governor or the president or somebody [00:05:54] [clears throat] that has power to do [00:05:56] something about this and and just ask [00:05:58] him, are you actually going to do [00:06:00] something about this one or are we just [00:06:02] going to read all the [ __ ] headlines [00:06:04] and [00:06:04] >> Well, from what I gather, President [00:06:06] Trump is going to do something about [00:06:07] this. He's I've he doubletapped triple [00:06:10] tapped Maine in Minnesota this week with [00:06:13] a set of policy prescriptions that I [00:06:15] think are going to be earthquakes in the [00:06:17] Somali community. Like the end of [00:06:19] temporary protective status is massive. [00:06:22] These guys these guys essentially had [00:06:24] deportation protections because the for [00:06:26] 25 years the our policy as the United [00:06:29] States was well it's too messy back in [00:06:31] Somalia. These guys can't be deported [00:06:33] back to Somalia. [00:06:36] That was that was our deacto policy. [00:06:38] They had temporary protected status just [00:06:39] like Haiti by the way. Um so President [00:06:42] Trump has ended that now or it's he's [00:06:44] set the date in the future when it's [00:06:46] going to end. I think that's going to be [00:06:47] more impactful in Minnesota than it will [00:06:49] be in Maine. We'll probably see um [00:06:53] probably an expansion of the number of [00:06:54] Somalies coming from Minnesota to Maine, [00:06:56] which we're already seeing. Uh but it's [00:06:58] it's going to finally treat them like [00:07:01] any other diaspora or migrant group uh [00:07:04] in the United States where if you commit [00:07:06] crimes, if you're caught committing [00:07:07] fraud, you get deported, you know, [00:07:09] rather than just a a slap on the wrist. [00:07:12] But [00:07:12] >> it'll it'll be interesting to see what [00:07:14] all the the new politicians in Maine [00:07:16] that are Somali, how they handle this [00:07:19] policy prescription. [00:07:21] >> Aren't there politicians up there that [00:07:23] are Somali? [00:07:23] >> A lot of them. [00:07:24] >> Yeah. Uh yeah, we have uh Representative [00:07:27] Deca Dlock came here in the '90s and she [00:07:30] was in Minnesota, came to Maine. She was [00:07:32] the mayor of South Portland. Um she's [00:07:34] currently uh a representative from uh [00:07:37] port uh South Portland and she's on the [00:07:39] appropriations committee. Um very close [00:07:41] to Governor Mills. Representative Yousef [00:07:43] Yousef from Portland. Um not hugely [00:07:47] significant in the legislature, but a [00:07:48] reliable vote. Uh Representative Mana [00:07:51] Abdi. I was actually born in Kenya and [00:07:54] but identifies as a Somali refugee. [00:07:56] She's just declared that she's running [00:07:58] for state senate. [00:07:59] >> Nice. [00:08:00] >> It's like [00:08:00] >> nice. [00:08:01] >> Read the room. [laughter] Cheers. [00:08:04] >> Uh but yeah, there's and I mean at the [00:08:06] at the uh local level there's also I [00:08:08] mean we just had actually uh one resign [00:08:11] in Lewon, a Lewon city council counselor [00:08:14] Iman Osman. Um he is uh claimed to live [00:08:19] at 210 Blake Street in Ward 5 in Lewon [00:08:22] which is a condemned building owned by [00:08:25] his brother Rolan Osman. It has a fried [00:08:28] chicken restaurant sign on it. Um in [00:08:31] 2024 the that location was the subject [00:08:34] of a raid that resulted in the arrest of [00:08:37] a Somali man for trafficking [00:08:38] methamphetamine. [00:08:40] >> They found what a judge called referred [00:08:41] to as a mind-boggling amount of [00:08:43] methamphetamine. Um, and Iman Osman says [00:08:47] he wasn't involved, but he just said [00:08:48] that he lived at this condemned building [00:08:50] that was deemed uninhabitable for human [00:08:52] purposes. So, he lied on his campaign [00:08:54] forms saying that he lived at this [00:08:55] residence for the purpose of being able [00:08:57] to run for the Somali city council [00:08:59] district in Lewon. Uh, we reported on [00:09:02] that and eventually it snowballed. He [00:09:05] got charged uh, indicted by a grand jury [00:09:07] for two gun theft charges. while he's [00:09:09] the city the incumbent or I guess [00:09:11] incoming city councelor for W five in [00:09:13] Lewon he's facing two gun theft charges [00:09:16] uh and he has his court appearance the [00:09:20] day after he's sworn in to the Lewon [00:09:22] city council lies on his bail documents [00:09:24] and again says that he lives at 210 [00:09:26] Blake Street turns out that the police [00:09:28] take that a little bit more seriously [00:09:29] than just the political side writing [00:09:31] where your address is and so they see [00:09:33] him write the fake address on his bail [00:09:35] documents and immediately issue a [00:09:37] warrant to to go find him. [00:09:39] >> And I don't know that he's been found [00:09:40] yet. Uh but he has resigned. So there's [00:09:42] an open seat on the Lewon Ward 5 city [00:09:46] council. And to the best of our [00:09:47] knowledge, there was a meeting at the uh [00:09:49] one of the mosques in town. They all got [00:09:52] together to decide who they were going [00:09:53] to put forward for the W 5 Somali seat [00:09:56] on the Lewis City Council. [00:09:58] >> Wow. [00:10:00] >> They take their political organizing [00:10:01] organizing a lot more seriously than [00:10:03] Republicans do. They're smart level. [00:10:06] Yeah, [00:10:06] >> they're smart. [00:10:09] >> Well, you ready to get get into the [00:10:11] interview? [00:10:11] >> Absolutely. [00:10:12] >> All right, let's do it. No matter where [00:10:14] you're watching the Shawn Ryan Show [00:10:15] from, if you get anything out of this at [00:10:18] all, anything, please like, comment, and [00:10:22] subscribe. And most importantly, share [00:10:26] this everywhere you possibly can. And if [00:10:30] you're feeling extra generous, head to [00:10:33] Apple Podcast and Spotify and leave us a