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[00:00:00] Fighters so if you're just listening to [00:00:01] the audio that was the voice of Pete [00:00:03] Heth the uh new secretary of defense the [00:00:07] Dei I mean DUI hire that we're all [00:00:10] dealing with he was talking about how [00:00:12] the bid Administration was a total joke [00:00:16] and that was of course I before before [00:00:19] the signal gate story our Prime story [00:00:22] for this evening broke we have a lot to [00:00:25] talk about we're going to talk about [00:00:26] signal gate what uh consequences will [00:00:28] have for the administration the campaign [00:00:30] against Yemen and Trump's wider plan for [00:00:34] the Middle East this is like the biggest [00:00:36] scandal in years and it's just getting [00:00:40] started hello and welcome to state of [00:00:42] play on mint Press News your weekly [00:00:44] Monday or Tuesday we were we uh pushed [00:00:46] it back to Tuesday because we wanted the [00:00:48] story to develop a little bit more new [00:00:50] stream where we discuss all the insanity [00:00:52] that happened over the weekend because [00:00:53] if you haven't been paying attention to [00:00:56] the Past 500 Days more than 500 days [00:00:59] it's where most most of the clownish [00:01:00] insanity goes down and the [00:01:02] administration spends the rest of the [00:01:04] week doing damage control and this [00:01:07] weekend was a doozy the Press is already [00:01:09] calling it signal gate hearkening back [00:01:12] to the infamous political scandal in [00:01:15] 1972 under Nixon Administration called [00:01:18] Watergate in case you weren't tracking [00:01:20] American political history on Monday [00:01:23] yesterday March 24th the Atlantic broke [00:01:26] the story that journalist Jeffrey [00:01:27] Goldberg had been added to a signal [00:01:30] group chat with us National Security [00:01:32] leaders discussing impending War plans [00:01:34] for aerial combat operations against [00:01:37] houy leadership in mid-march of this [00:01:40] year classified information was [00:01:42] discussed on an open-source civilian [00:01:44] messaging application and while signal [00:01:47] is used by military leaders around the [00:01:49] world according to Signal's CEO it is [00:01:51] against the pentagon's operational uh [00:01:54] security protocols and actually we got a [00:01:57] uh a copy of the uh security protocols [00:02:01] from NPR they're unclassified and they [00:02:04] were sent out to everybody in the [00:02:05] Pentagon being like hey signals [00:02:07] compromised by Russian hacker groups so [00:02:09] uh let's not use it and they were all [00:02:13] using it so using a signal chat group to [00:02:15] share highly classified information and [00:02:18] accidentally including a reporter I [00:02:21] personally believe it was an accident [00:02:23] I'll explain my reasoning behind it but [00:02:25] uh you're free to disagree with me and [00:02:27] we maybe we'll hash it out in the live [00:02:29] Q&A section [00:02:30] at the end of this uh so again [00:02:33] accidentally including a reporter on the [00:02:35] discussion could raise the possibility [00:02:37] of violation of federal laws such as the [00:02:40] Espionage Act let's be honest though [00:02:43] there will be no accountability and they [00:02:44] won't be tried it can be a crime to [00:02:46] mishandle and here's the thing misuse or [00:02:48] abuse classified information though it [00:02:50] is unclear whether such Provisions have [00:02:52] been breached in this case there's going [00:02:54] to be an investigation probably however [00:02:55] the Salient Point here is that they were [00:02:59] using an app with disappearing messages [00:03:02] okay a feature not available on secure [00:03:04] governmental messaging systems where [00:03:06] accountability as a priority so the a [00:03:10] military the government and Wall Street [00:03:14] and the the bodies that oversee and [00:03:17] regulate and investigate them don't like [00:03:20] disappearing messages uh because it's [00:03:22] hard to look for fraud accountability [00:03:25] deception so and all that so join us [00:03:28] tonight on state of play to do a deep [00:03:30] dive into this budding Scandal and what [00:03:32] it means for both the administration and [00:03:34] again for Yemen and Gaza and The Wider [00:03:37] West Asian region so I just want to say [00:03:40] this for now as someone who who held [00:03:43] once held a top secret security [00:03:45] clearance in Special Operations if I had [00:03:47] accidentally leaked classified [00:03:49] information on a civilian messaging app [00:03:51] to a journalist no matter the [00:03:53] circumstances no no matter if I was just [00:03:55] incompetent and it was a complete [00:03:57] accident I'd have been fired and [00:03:59] subjected to a Military Tribunal that's [00:04:02] a given dishonorably discharged at best [00:04:06] and thrown into military prison at worst [00:04:09] which is the more likely scenario but of [00:04:12] course there will be no accountability [00:04:13] which is one of the prim which is one of [00:04:15] the primary reasons to use a [00:04:16] non-government messaging service in the [00:04:19] first place also for convenience which [00:04:21] is precisely why Hillary and Clinton [00:04:24] used her own private email server you [00:04:26] know when she was Secretary of State [00:04:28] we'll get into that later you know the [00:04:30] hypocrisy the rank incompetence and a [00:04:33] lack of accountability you know [00:04:36] Washington as usual this is just a [00:04:38] particularly embarrassing Scandal also [00:04:41] increased militarism sending another [00:04:43] aircraft carrier strike group to the [00:04:44] Middle East also potentially sending US [00:04:47] troops to Israel in order to train Ida [00:04:49] the IDF in explosive ordinance disposal [00:04:53] uh you know I.E to clear out all the [00:04:55] bombs in Gaza I've heard that from [00:04:56] multiple sources but we're still waiting [00:04:58] on confirmation so so just saying that [00:05:01] that could be in the mix if you see a [00:05:03] headline in the coming days about US [00:05:05] troops deploying to Israel don't freak [00:05:07] out yet uh we're still a long ways off [00:05:10] from them being a combat role or even [00:05:12] going into Gaza but before we get into [00:05:15] problematic journalists sleazy [00:05:18] politicians warmongers and grifting and [00:05:20] a grifting media apparatus I wanted to [00:05:22] take a minute to recognize the passing [00:05:24] of hosam Shabbat a journalist who worked [00:05:26] for Al jazer mubasher who was killed in [00:05:30] Northern Gaza on Monday March 24th [00:05:33] yesterday Witnesses told the network [00:05:35] that his car was targeted in the eastern [00:05:37] part of bait Leia and that is not being [00:05:40] reported but the me uh by the media but [00:05:42] it is all over social and if you don't [00:05:44] know who he is or was um yes hosam [00:05:47] Shabbat 23-year-old journalist from Gaza [00:05:49] was threatened by Israeli forces to stop [00:05:52] reporting on their activities in [00:05:54] Northern Gaza and delete his published [00:05:56] work and today March 24th again [00:05:58] yesterday he was killed in a direct [00:06:02] targeted strike he had a following and [00:06:05] he wrote things such as I'm going to [00:06:07] read one of his posts I couldn't pull it [00:06:08] up because I couldn't find it on X but I [00:06:11] could find it on Instagram give me one [00:06:14] second looking [00:06:17] for sorry y'all yeah so it's been all [00:06:20] it's been one of the big stories he was [00:06:22] also affiliated with dropsite news and [00:06:25] just to read one of the one one of the [00:06:27] things he wrote probably pretty profound [00:06:31] quote uh the biggest problem is not [00:06:34] Western journalists being unable to [00:06:35] enter I.E the Gaza Strip but the fact [00:06:38] that Western media doesn't respect and [00:06:40] value Palestinian journalists my [00:06:42] colleagues and I risk our lives every [00:06:43] day to report on this genocide no one [00:06:46] knows Gaza like we do and no one [00:06:48] understands the complexity of the [00:06:50] situation like we do if you care about [00:06:54] what's happening in Gaza you should [00:06:55] amplify Palestinian voices we don't need [00:06:57] Western journalists to tell our story we [00:06:59] are capable of telling and Reporting on [00:07:02] our own um yeah and that's precisely why [00:07:07] they've been targeting over 200 [00:07:09] journalists precisely because well they [00:07:12] don't want even Western journalists [00:07:14] growing a conscience or a spine and [00:07:17] Reporting on those same stories so um we [00:07:20] recognize his passing and it's just [00:07:24] another drop in the atrocity bucket that [00:07:27] we will document and not forget so [00:07:31] Israel also um just shelled a un [00:07:35] compound in Gaza last week and in [00:07:37] response the UN is now reducing its [00:07:39] presence in the [00:07:41] strip has taken the difficult so this is [00:07:45] uh Stefan duar United Nations [00:07:48] spokesperson and he is discussing the [00:07:50] bombing of the UN compound excuse me it [00:07:53] was apparently a tank shelling of the [00:07:56] compound General has taken the difficult [00:07:58] decision to reduce [00:08:00] the United Nations footprint in Gaza [00:08:02] even as humanitarian needs SAR and are [00:08:05] concerned over the prot protection of [00:08:06] civilians [00:08:08] intensifies we are not leaving Gaza I [00:08:11] repeat the United Nations is not leaving [00:08:13] Gaza based on the information that is [00:08:16] currently available the strikes hitting [00:08:18] a un compound in darl Bala on March 19th [00:08:21] were caused by an Israeli tank shell the [00:08:24] strikes claimed the life of a un [00:08:26] colleague from Bulgaria and left six [00:08:28] others from France mova North Macedonia [00:08:31] Palestine and the United Kingdom with [00:08:34] severe injuries some of them life [00:08:37] altering the location of this un [00:08:39] compound was well known to all the [00:08:41] parties in the conflict and I reiterate [00:08:43] that all parties to the conflict are [00:08:45] bound by international law to protect [00:08:47] the inviability of United Nations [00:08:51] premises but we all know that you uh [00:08:53] that international law is now done in [00:08:55] the post October 7th era Israel has as a [00:08:59] matter of State policy made it a [00:09:02] targeting priority to hit hospitals in [00:09:05] fact a doctor that was just on a number [00:09:07] of major news outlets Western Doctor Who [00:09:11] said that over a 100,000 children had [00:09:13] been killed which you know we all [00:09:16] believe uh because Trump keeps saying [00:09:19] that there's [00:09:20] 1.9 million Palestinians in Gaza so [00:09:24] where did the other 300,000 go uh it's [00:09:27] it's because he's been briefed on the [00:09:28] current population count that's what we [00:09:30] think and also a lot of revered medical [00:09:33] journals of longstanding and [00:09:34] peer-reviewed have published articles [00:09:37] about how based off crude casualty [00:09:39] counts yes that's consistent with what [00:09:41] you'd see with this kind of ordinance [00:09:43] dropped and this uh population density [00:09:47] so as we're seeing now I don't know if [00:09:50] you guys remember 2015 under Obama the [00:09:53] United States bombed a Doctors Without [00:09:55] Borders Hospital in the condu province [00:09:58] in Afghanistan was a massive Scandal uh [00:10:02] it dominated the news cycle for weeks [00:10:05] and now we have reports that a hospital [00:10:08] in saana in Yemen has been bombed twice [00:10:11] and now bombing hospitals which used to [00:10:14] be a huge deal even back during the [00:10:16] global war on terror under Obama in 2015 [00:10:20] now it's just not even not even making [00:10:23] the news so I said this at the beginning [00:10:25] in November of 2003 now that this is [00:10:29] happened uh now that they destroyed [00:10:31] alifa hospital it's forever normalized [00:10:33] this will never bombing a hospital will [00:10:35] never be a new story again in the [00:10:38] mainstream media so that's what we're [00:10:40] looking at now but anyways moving on uh [00:10:43] also in terms of is Israeli aggression [00:10:46] for killed and Israeli strikes in Syria [00:10:49] IDF says terrorists shot at troops as [00:10:52] you know they've expanded their buffler [00:10:54] Zone into Southern Syria past their [00:10:56] traditional occupation of the Golan and [00:10:59] the Israeli military claims it [00:11:01] retaliated with artillery fire after [00:11:03] armed militants attacked them in a [00:11:05] village in southern Syria according to [00:11:07] local media at least 10 were wounded in [00:11:09] the Israeli attack that included tanks [00:11:12] and aircraft in the uh coia Village in [00:11:16] Dara region in southern Syria which has [00:11:18] always had clashes with the IDF [00:11:20] according to Syrian media Outlets more [00:11:22] people including a woman were reported [00:11:24] wounded according to Har rett's quote [00:11:27] sources who spoke with Syria media said [00:11:30] that many of the village residents left [00:11:32] for nearby Villages due to ongoing IDF [00:11:35] attacks with many residents fearing an [00:11:37] Israeli invasion of COA sorry if I'm [00:11:41] butchering the pronunciation guys [00:11:44] continuing the quote Jordan's Ministry [00:11:46] of Foreign Affairs condemned the idf's [00:11:48] activity in Syria calling it a flagrant [00:11:50] violation of international law a serious [00:11:52] violation of serious sovereignty and [00:11:55] unity and a dangerous escalation that [00:11:57] will only lead to more clashes and [00:11:59] tensions in the region unquote and [00:12:01] according to some pro- Syrian government [00:12:04] reporting I mentioned that here simply [00:12:06] because I'd be surprised if the Syrian [00:12:07] government current Syrian government [00:12:09] actually did anything substantive to [00:12:11] resist Israeli encroachment and we know [00:12:14] that jolani or alhara or whatever you [00:12:16] want to call them has made a statement [00:12:19] asking the International Community to [00:12:21] condemn Israeli actions in Syria but [00:12:23] beyond that you're not going to see [00:12:25] anything more I'd be surprised if you [00:12:27] did be very happy to be wrong uh so men [00:12:32] from D took matters into their own hands [00:12:34] and here's a video of the funeral [00:12:35] service I will [00:12:41] transliterate the people of Coya Village [00:12:43] bury their dead after they were targeted [00:12:45] by Israeli occupation forces this [00:12:48] morning in Coya village where the [00:12:50] occupation tried to break into the City [00:12:52] and its [00:12:55] Valley as we can [00:12:57] see the funeral of two Mar in the town [00:12:59] of Kya in the yarmuk Basin West [00:13:04] D funeral is being carried out [00:13:10] in view of Israeli occupation forces [00:13:13] which are based in the Maria military [00:13:20] [Music] [00:13:22] unit so now the violence is spreading to [00:13:26] and it has I mean there have been Syrian [00:13:28] civilian killed in Israeli air strikes [00:13:30] as well but now it's kind of flaring up [00:13:33] it seems like Israeli aggression has [00:13:35] been empowered as we saw last week with [00:13:38] the resumption of air strikes on Yemen [00:13:41] and it's only going to get worse we are [00:13:43] downhill with no [00:13:45] breaks however this new [00:13:49] development with the uh with the the [00:13:53] signal gate is interesting and we're [00:13:54] going to wait to see if it has any [00:13:56] impact on US foreign policy I doubt it [00:13:58] but we still have to talk about why it's [00:14:00] important and what they said in the [00:14:02] signal chat we're going to look at some [00:14:03] of the dialogue and kind of analyze it [00:14:06] and we we can kind of grab some policy [00:14:09] and make some policy determinations [00:14:11] especially with Yemen based off it my [00:14:14] what I will pause it right now and my [00:14:15] argument is that there will be no [00:14:17] invasion of Yemen they will just [00:14:19] intensify air strikes um and they will [00:14:21] attempt to quote reestablish freedom of [00:14:24] navigation because they know that [00:14:26] invading Yemen right now is not an [00:14:28] option sorry my printers like turning on [00:14:31] for some reason hang on hit the power [00:14:38] button sorry about that y'all that was [00:14:40] weird um okay so as Israeli aggression [00:14:45] and atrocities continue in Gaza the West [00:14:48] Bank southern Lebanon and Syria let's [00:14:50] take a moment uh to recognize that [00:14:53] Jeffrey Goldberg the journalist who was [00:14:55] accidentally and I do believe it was an [00:14:58] accident as I said earlier [00:14:59] added to the signal group of senior uh [00:15:02] National Security cabinet members [00:15:04] planning an attack on the houthi [00:15:06] leadership in Yemen he is a former [00:15:08] Israeli soldier and prison guard at the [00:15:10] notorious um kitat prison again my bad [00:15:16] for the pronunciation in the ncab desert [00:15:18] where he was complicit in the torture of [00:15:21] Palestinians again it's notorious if you [00:15:23] serve there you're obviously and you [00:15:24] don't speak out you're obviously [00:15:26] complicit in that although we don't know [00:15:28] exactly what did there after his time as [00:15:30] an occupation Soldier he stepped into [00:15:33] journalism all right manufacturing [00:15:35] consent for the Iraq War amongst the [00:15:38] liberal Elite such as with such articles [00:15:41] like the great Terror published in 2002 [00:15:45] in the New Yorker which describes a [00:15:47] humanizing tale of saddam's Oppression [00:15:49] of the Kurds humanizing for the Kurds um [00:15:52] in Northern Iraq not something any [00:15:55] reasonable person would deny but you're [00:15:58] about to know notice a trend and in case [00:16:01] you guys want to see the actual article [00:16:03] I'll bring it up and we'll kind of look [00:16:05] at it later um like the New Yorker the [00:16:08] Atlantic is an elitist uh liberal [00:16:12] publication meant to [00:16:15] manufacture consent for war amongst the [00:16:17] liberal Elite uh which they've always [00:16:19] been good at them New York Times Etc so [00:16:22] we'll look at that but it is payal [00:16:24] however there's been so much reporting [00:16:26] on it that you don't really need to read [00:16:27] it anymore in the first place so [00:16:31] as Roger Cohen the former editor of the [00:16:33] New York Times put in 2009 uh let me [00:16:37] just bring this up I think he might have [00:16:39] a bio in [00:16:41] there anyways yeah Roger [00:16:44] Cohen former editor of the New York [00:16:46] Times put in 2009 Goldberg became quote [00:16:49] netanyahu's faithful stenographer he is [00:16:52] editor-in chief of the Atlantic which [00:16:54] last summer published the article the [00:16:56] un's Gaza statistics make no sense by [00:16:59] graem wood claiming it is possible to [00:17:03] kill children legally there was a lot of [00:17:06] backlash to that article uh you know [00:17:08] last last summer or last year and uh you [00:17:12] know instead you know Goldberg didn't [00:17:16] take the article Down based off the [00:17:17] blowback he not only did left it up but [00:17:21] he made it free to read again Atlantic [00:17:24] articles are usually paywalled but he [00:17:25] made that one free so everybody could [00:17:28] read it almost [00:17:29] unprecedented in in the media Outlets [00:17:32] history he may be in the Limelight now [00:17:35] but he is no objective or conscientious [00:17:38] journalist to like be celebrated he's [00:17:41] always been part of the war machine he [00:17:42] does access journalism he he posts what [00:17:47] you know the the elite especially the [00:17:50] liberal Elite want to be posted you know [00:17:52] he is a liberal Zionist and he obviously [00:17:56] favors the Democratic party and this is [00:17:58] a huge Boon to a flagging wavering [00:18:01] Democratic party you know um you know he [00:18:04] also sat on the story for nine days [00:18:06] after he exit exited the group chat you [00:18:09] know while he would open himself likely [00:18:12] to prosecution if he had revealed the [00:18:15] information before the strikes which [00:18:16] killed over 60 civilians apparently hit [00:18:19] a hospital twice there at least the [00:18:22] first strike is confirmed it is [00:18:24] important to recognize that he supports [00:18:26] any action which will benefit the [00:18:29] Israeli state that being said let's get [00:18:32] into media reactions because this is the [00:18:35] biggest scandal in years and then we're [00:18:37] going to get into what this means for [00:18:39] policy going forward so before we do I [00:18:42] would like to make three short paragraph [00:18:44] points all right first here I would like [00:18:47] to [00:18:48] make or sorry I'd like to invite you to [00:18:52] keep in mind that according to dropsite [00:18:54] news an unnamed Insider claims that [00:18:58] Michael wal current national security [00:19:00] adviser who replaced uh Jake Sullivan [00:19:02] from the Biden Administration and he's [00:19:05] an ex Green Beret officer which makes [00:19:06] this even more embarrassing uh has [00:19:09] already had already leaked information [00:19:12] and was leaking information you know [00:19:14] which is kind of standard procedure to [00:19:16] Jeffrey Goldberg and he most likely [00:19:18] accidentally added him to the chat [00:19:21] because he added him before to other [00:19:24] chats no way to confirm that as of right [00:19:26] now but according to dropsite news they [00:19:28] have a Source uh deep background that is [00:19:31] saying that that's what happened what [00:19:33] makes this even more absurd is in the [00:19:36] chat Secretary of Defense Pete hegf and [00:19:39] we'll look at the actual quote uh later [00:19:42] posted quote I will do all we can do to [00:19:45] enforce 100% opset unquote operational [00:19:49] security no one thought to check I guess [00:19:52] the random account that didn't declare [00:19:55] itself whoops uh all these members of [00:19:58] the cabinet have gone through opsc [00:20:00] briefs about how signal is vulnerable [00:20:04] and a pentagon and the Pentagon just [00:20:06] issued an unclassified memo which means [00:20:09] it goes out to everybody uh because you [00:20:12] don't need a security clearance to [00:20:15] access it unclassified memo warning [00:20:18] against the use of signal quote a [00:20:21] vulnerability has been identified in the [00:20:23] signal messeng Messenger application [00:20:26] Begins the department-wide email dated [00:20:28] March 18th obtained by [00:20:32] NP R and this was after the signal chat [00:20:35] um went into effect but you know these [00:20:39] guys already knew that you know why you [00:20:42] don't use you don't use unencrypted apps [00:20:47] to to discuss classified information [00:20:51] especially when we know they're [00:20:52] vulnerable you use a skiff or uh skiff [00:20:55] yeah a secure uh a secured uh sorry I'm [00:20:59] I'm mind B it's a secured compartment uh [00:21:03] compartmentalized information facility [00:21:05] secure compartmentalized informational [00:21:07] facility someone can fact check me on [00:21:09] the comments I don't know why I'm mind [00:21:10] blanking on that but every one of these [00:21:12] senior cabinet officials and even their [00:21:14] deputies have them installed in their [00:21:17] homes and they can access them within 10 [00:21:20] minutes one problem is if you use a [00:21:22] skiff you do leave a footprint that you [00:21:25] can't get rid of because classified [00:21:27] information and it's transmission [00:21:29] is tracked over official channels so [00:21:32] anyways let's look at this Pentagon memo [00:21:33] real quick [00:21:36] um Skiffs not all Skiffs are necessarily [00:21:40] air gapped U which means they've never [00:21:42] been connected to an outside Network [00:21:44] um I'm pretty actually wait no that's [00:21:47] that's different from ceret okay yes I I [00:21:49] think skips are air gapped and they're [00:21:51] generally for communication and the [00:21:53] transmission of classified documents uh [00:21:56] the documents are I I believe [00:21:59] uploaded via hard hardware and they [00:22:02] exist on an airgap Network that's [00:22:04] generally how it works so anyways here's [00:22:08] the opsc security bulletin about signal [00:22:11] and if you guys use signal for your [00:22:13] protest and activism activities you may [00:22:15] as well look at what the Pentagon is [00:22:18] saying all right uh a vulnerability has [00:22:22] been identified and yes this is Ft F9 [00:22:26] t53 OPC special bulletin signal [00:22:30] vulnerability a vulnerability has been [00:22:32] identified in the signal Messenger [00:22:34] application the use of signal by Common [00:22:36] targets of surveillance and Espionage [00:22:38] activity has made the application a high [00:22:41] value Target to intercept uh sensitive [00:22:44] information Russian professional hacking [00:22:47] groups are employing quote link devices [00:22:49] featured to spy on encrypted [00:22:51] conversations the feature allows the [00:22:53] chat and voice Messenger application to [00:22:55] be utilized on multiple devices [00:22:58] concurrent currently the hacking groups [00:23:00] embedded malicious or uh sorry malicious [00:23:03] QR codes and fishing pages are conceal [00:23:06] them in group invite links uh oh I guess [00:23:10] they all accepted a group invite link to [00:23:13] this one after gaining access via the [00:23:16] malicious code the groups add their own [00:23:18] devices as a linked device this allows [00:23:21] the group to view every message sent by [00:23:25] the unwitting user in real time [00:23:27] bypassing the endtoend encryption steps [00:23:30] to safeguard your sign signal [00:23:32] application are on the following Pages [00:23:34] the pages are unclassified and can be [00:23:37] printed for use outside of skiff spaces [00:23:41] all right so that's just something um I [00:23:44] I hope we can get access to what the [00:23:45] next Pages were um because I want I want [00:23:48] those security protocols as well because [00:23:51] uh you know the US government also tries [00:23:54] to spy on activ on Signal groups as well [00:23:58] because you know drug runners use it [00:24:00] activists use it potential agents also [00:24:05] use it [00:24:06] so yeah let's uh now that we've all [00:24:10] established that and how like big of a [00:24:12] security breach this is let's look at [00:24:14] some uh media reactions and break it [00:24:16] down I this is from last night and then [00:24:19] we're goingon to look at some from today [00:24:20] real quick let's go to the White House [00:24:22] now we're so if you're just listening to [00:24:24] the audio this is CBS News [00:24:26] 247 this is from Saturdays uh at 7 a.m. [00:24:31] East oh okay yeah Saturday night [00:24:33] president Trump just held a meeting with [00:24:34] his cabinet this afternoon also in [00:24:37] attendance Department of government [00:24:39] efficiency head Elon Musk this comes as [00:24:42] concerns grow after a journalist was [00:24:44] included in a group chat regarding [00:24:46] attacks on houthi rebels in Yemen [00:24:48] president Trump commented on it during a [00:24:50] meeting with Louisiana's governor today [00:24:52] take a listen Mr President your reaction [00:24:55] to the the story of the Atlantic that [00:24:57] said that some of your top uh cabinet [00:24:59] officials and AIDS have been discussing [00:25:01] very sensitive material uh through [00:25:03] signal and included an Atlantic reporter [00:25:05] for that what is your response to that I [00:25:08] don't know anything about it I'm not a [00:25:09] big fan of the Atlantic it's to me it's [00:25:11] a magazine that's going out of business [00:25:13] I think it's not much of a magazine but [00:25:15] I know nothing about it you're I I have [00:25:18] no idea what my cabinet members are [00:25:21] doing saying that they had what they [00:25:24] they were using signal uh to coordinate [00:25:27] on sensitive material [00:25:28] having to do with [00:25:30] what having to do with what what were [00:25:32] they talking about with the hotties the [00:25:34] hotties you mean the attack on the [00:25:36] hoties well it couldn't have been very [00:25:38] effective because the attack was very [00:25:40] effective I can tell you that I don't [00:25:41] know anything about it you're you're [00:25:43] telling me about it For the First Time [00:25:46] CBS News White House reporter Olivia [00:25:48] real quick I do I do want to talk about [00:25:50] these attacks on the houthis and them [00:25:51] being really [00:25:52] effective um [00:25:55] every we have spent because of the hou [00:25:58] you know a ship hasn't been hit a ship [00:26:00] is probably not going to be hit by the [00:26:02] houth but what they have done is they've [00:26:04] shut down shipping in the face of [00:26:06] continual air strikes and they have cost [00:26:10] over a bill the US military over a [00:26:13] billion dollars in intercept [00:26:16] missiles The Intercept reported that I [00:26:18] believe um over a billion dollars and [00:26:21] we've expended more air defense [00:26:25] missiles since the houth started shoot [00:26:28] shooting into the Red Sea than we have [00:26:30] in the past 30 years since the Gulf War [00:26:33] so yeah ronaldi joins us now Olivia do [00:26:36] you know how that journalist got [00:26:37] included in this really sensitive group [00:26:40] chat well Liz what a shocking report [00:26:43] from the Atlantic today sending [00:26:44] ricochets around Washington that Jeffrey [00:26:46] Goldberg the editor-in-chief of the [00:26:48] Atlantic appears to have been [00:26:50] accidentally included on a group chat [00:26:52] with a lot of Heavy Hitters including [00:26:54] the secretary of state Secretary of [00:26:55] Defense National Security adviser the [00:26:57] vice president Trump's Chief of Staff uh [00:27:00] on very sensitive plans to attack houthi [00:27:03] rebels in Yemen over the weekend now [00:27:05] this report was published today uh [00:27:08] Jeffrey Goldberg was talking about [00:27:10] exactly uh what transpired in that group [00:27:12] chat which was before the strikes [00:27:15] happened where we saw some conversation [00:27:17] between the vice president and the [00:27:19] Secretary of Defense Pete hex over [00:27:21] whether or not they should postpone the [00:27:22] strikes for a month or so also quite [00:27:25] notable in that group chat uh the vice [00:27:27] president appeared to uh criticize Trump [00:27:30] and the administration saying that there [00:27:32] was some inconsistencies in the [00:27:34] messaging around Europe quoting from the [00:27:36] pieace now which allegedly shows what [00:27:38] the vice president had said during that [00:27:40] group chat uh the vice president said [00:27:42] quote I'm not sure the president is [00:27:44] aware how inconsistent his message is on [00:27:47] Europe this is with his message on [00:27:49] Europe right now he says there's a [00:27:51] further further risk that we see a [00:27:53] moderate to severe spike in oil prices [00:27:56] as a result of these strikes now we are [00:27:59] hearing from the spokesperson of the [00:28:00] National Security Council who appears to [00:28:02] confirm that these texts are authentic [00:28:05] in a statement to CBS News he said at [00:28:07] this time the message thread that was [00:28:09] reported appears to be authentic and we [00:28:11] are reviewing how an inadvertent number [00:28:14] was added to the chain he also said the [00:28:16] thread is a demonstration of deep and [00:28:18] thoughtful policy coordination between [00:28:20] senior officials putting a little bit of [00:28:21] spin on there a little bit of spin look [00:28:25] we just had the biggest information [00:28:26] breach scandal since even before [00:28:29] Hillary's emails which every one of [00:28:32] these people was freaking out about [00:28:34] right but yeah you know it's just a [00:28:35] really good demonstration of national [00:28:38] security officials working together to [00:28:39] accomplish the mission uh yeah so [00:28:42] they're kind of messaging in freef Fall [00:28:43] I should also mention uh before we move [00:28:45] on that according to Jeff Goldberg who [00:28:49] is you know as much as he is a liberal [00:28:51] Zionist uh he is reliable in this case [00:28:55] uh that they did put classified [00:28:57] information on there they put strike [00:28:59] times strike packages the equipment [00:29:02] being used when it was going to exactly [00:29:05] happen and what the targets were uh he [00:29:07] didn't publish that information because [00:29:09] he didn't want to get go to jail but he [00:29:11] says it was on there so we'll have to [00:29:13] we'll we'll have to keep that in [00:29:16] mind so in attendance Department of [00:29:19] government efficiency head Elon Musk [00:29:21] this comes oh sorry I accidentally [00:29:24] replayed that so messaging is not great [00:29:27] they're kind of free fall right now this [00:29:29] is incredible ineptitude and we're going [00:29:32] to see a suffering uh of military morale [00:29:36] and military actions since then this is [00:29:39] Pete heth's response he is the one who [00:29:42] allegedly most likely uh but still [00:29:46] allegedly posted classified information [00:29:49] about the strike packages against the [00:29:51] houthis in the signal chat can you share [00:29:56] how your information about how War plans [00:29:59] against the huies in Yemen was shared [00:30:01] with a journalist in the Atlantic and [00:30:03] were those details classified uh so I [00:30:07] you're talking about [00:30:09] a deceitful and highly discredited [00:30:12] so-called journalist who's I mean he's [00:30:15] not even though even though he's a [00:30:17] warmonger and a propagandist he's not a [00:30:20] discredited or smalltime journalist [00:30:22] that's insane made a profession of [00:30:24] pedaling hoaxes time and time again to [00:30:26] include the I don't know the hoaxes of [00:30:29] Russia Russia Russia or the fine people [00:30:33] on both sides hoax or suckers and losers [00:30:36] hoax so this is the guy that pedals in [00:30:38] garbage this is what he does uh I would [00:30:41] love to comment on the houthi campaign [00:30:44] because of the skill and courage of our [00:30:46] troops I've monitored it very closely [00:30:48] from the beginning and you see we've [00:30:50] been managing four years of deferred [00:30:52] maintenance under the Trump [00:30:54] Administration our troops our Sailors [00:30:56] were getting shot at as Target [00:30:58] our ships couldn't sail through and when [00:31:00] they did shoot back it was purely [00:31:02] defensively or at Shacks in Yemen [00:31:05] president Trump said no more we will [00:31:08] reestablish deterrent we will open [00:31:10] freedom of navigation and we will [00:31:13] ultimately decimate the houthis which is [00:31:15] exactly what we're doing as we speak [00:31:18] from the beginning [00:31:19] overwhelmingly I just want to say if [00:31:21] you're just listening to the audio uh he [00:31:23] is very jumpy his a uh his actions are [00:31:26] really exaggerated it looks like he's [00:31:29] like nodding his head at the [00:31:32] uh at the uh the journalist and yeah he [00:31:36] looks very skittish why were those [00:31:38] details shared on Signal and how did you [00:31:41] learn that a journalist was privy to the [00:31:43] targets the types of weapons used in [00:31:46] I've heard that I've heard that was [00:31:47] characterized nobody was texting War [00:31:50] plans and that's all I have to say about [00:31:52] that thank you that's all right well [00:31:54] there's going to be an [00:31:56] investigation either way [00:31:58] so um yeah um and here is the hearing in [00:32:03] front of the select intelligence [00:32:05] committee Senate uh Tulsi gabard the [00:32:08] director of the CIA and others in [00:32:11] attendance and it I'm not going to play [00:32:14] the whole thing but this is a grilling [00:32:16] in the signal chain that we have been [00:32:19] someone is like Pete's angry not [00:32:22] skittish I mean he's deeply [00:32:25] uncomfortable right now I mean everybody [00:32:28] knows that this was a massive f up [00:32:30] talking about was there any mention of a [00:32:35] Target um I just uh have to address this [00:32:40] so Goldberg is an ex IDF prison guard [00:32:43] and uh torturer and that's a liberal [00:32:46] Zionist yeah uh liberals can be just as [00:32:49] big of warhawks as the farri extremist [00:32:51] conservatives you know and especially [00:32:53] when you're in an indoctrinated military [00:32:56] system you know I I definitely see it [00:32:59] happening I know people who voted for [00:33:00] Obama who consider themselves liberals [00:33:03] and believe in you know uh women's [00:33:06] rights and lgbtq plus people do [00:33:09] interrogations of al-Qaeda Taliban quote [00:33:12] unquote suspects and they were pretty [00:33:13] brutal so I definitely believe that's [00:33:16] possible but I just wanted to um say [00:33:19] that from my perspective yeah we can [00:33:21] disagree but I totally see that being [00:33:23] the case because I've seen it with [00:33:24] American troops personally um okay now [00:33:27] back to the select uh Intel Chiefs chest [00:33:30] uh testify amid leak Fallout this is [00:33:33] from the Fox News stream from earlier [00:33:35] today 11:42 eastern time in the signal [00:33:39] chain that we have been talking about [00:33:41] was there any mention of a Target in [00:33:47] Yemen this is tulsy gabard [00:33:50] replying I don't remember mention of [00:33:52] specific targets any generic Target [00:34:02] she has mastered the um this is just [00:34:05] commentary uh unprofessional commentary [00:34:07] but she has mastered the the look of [00:34:10] hand caught in the cookie jar I believe [00:34:13] there was uh discussion around Targets [00:34:17] in general Mr [00:34:20] rackliffe I think that's consistent with [00:34:23] my recollection again I don't have [00:34:25] access to that was there was there is [00:34:27] there any mention Miss gabard of a [00:34:30] weapon or weapon [00:34:34] system I don't recall specific Weapons [00:34:37] Systems being named so these are really [00:34:40] pointed questions because this is the [00:34:43] most classified aspect uh like [00:34:46] operations themselves aren't necessarily [00:34:48] classified how classification works it's [00:34:50] mostly like exact times exact methods [00:34:53] and weapons used General stuff isn't as [00:34:57] classif ifed as specific so the more [00:35:00] specific it gets the more classified it [00:35:02] is so this is why this Democratic [00:35:05] senator is asking these really pointed [00:35:07] questions he's also a veteran as well [00:35:11] I'm not talking about specific any [00:35:13] weapon or weapon [00:35:15] system I don't recall specific names of [00:35:19] systems or weapons being [00:35:21] used it was the [00:35:24] dog someone says yeah so that's what [00:35:27] we're uh that's what we're looking at [00:35:29] now let's look at what was actually said [00:35:31] in the article and spend the last [00:35:33] portion of this now that we've kind of [00:35:35] like set it up how big of a catastrophe [00:35:37] this is how seriously people take this [00:35:40] um except for Fox News after we play [00:35:43] this Fox News defense of it just because [00:35:46] we like to look at the the other media [00:35:48] Landscapes here on mint Press News uh [00:35:52] we're going to get into the actual [00:35:53] article itself so this is uh Fox text uh [00:35:59] Waters uh he has he's like one of the [00:36:01] most Pro uh prominent Fox News hosts and [00:36:06] yeah it's it's bad their their defense [00:36:08] of the indefensible is kind of crazy did [00:36:10] you ever try to start a group text [00:36:12] you're adding people and you [00:36:14] accidentally add the wrong person all of [00:36:16] a sudden your Aunt Mary knows all your [00:36:18] runchy plans for the bachelor [00:36:20] party yeah boys will be boys this is the [00:36:23] party of family values by the way and he [00:36:25] thinks this is going to resonate with [00:36:27] his audience well that kind of happened [00:36:29] today with the Trump Administration Mike [00:36:31] Wallace was putting together a group [00:36:32] chat on Signal an encrypted app with the [00:36:35] secretary defense the VP and a bunch of [00:36:37] other National Security officials to [00:36:39] collaborate on whether to strike Iranian [00:36:41] proxies in Yemen who keep firing [00:36:43] missiles and shutting down shipping well [00:36:45] National Security adviser Mike Walts [00:36:47] accidentally added a reporter to the [00:36:49] group text and not a good reporter [00:36:52] Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic one [00:36:54] of the biggest hoax artists around well [00:36:57] he heard some things he probably [00:36:58] shouldn't have but I mean he's not wrong [00:37:01] when he says he was doing like hoaxes in [00:37:04] terms of like atrocity propaganda the [00:37:06] same hoaxes that Fox News was doing by [00:37:09] the way could have been a wee bit of a [00:37:11] security breach but it's not like they [00:37:13] Homebrew a server and then bleached it [00:37:15] or kept classified documents in their [00:37:17] garages next to their Corvette no they [00:37:20] just kept classified documents at Marg [00:37:22] maralago in the bathroom like Trump was [00:37:24] charged for I'm sure it won't happen [00:37:27] again [00:37:28] yeah yeah I'm pretty sure it won't [00:37:31] happen again too so whoops whoopsy Daisy [00:37:34] but in the meantime I'm super glad it [00:37:36] got leaked because now this will help us [00:37:38] interpret Trump's foreign [00:37:41] policy uh and the foreign policy that [00:37:43] his staff is going for so first of all [00:37:46] we're not going to set it up we're just [00:37:48] going to go straight into the [00:37:50] dialogue um of this texting [00:37:54] so here we go [00:38:00] so the Vance uh this is this is going to [00:38:03] this is going to deal with Europe first [00:38:04] so the Vance Associated account goes on [00:38:07] to make a noteworthy statement [00:38:09] considering that the vice president has [00:38:10] not deviated publicly from Trump's [00:38:12] position on virtually any issue he says [00:38:16] I'm not sure the president is aware how [00:38:17] inconsistent this is with his message on [00:38:19] Europe right now there's a further risk [00:38:21] that we see a moderate to severe spike [00:38:24] in oil prices I'm willing to support the [00:38:26] consensus of the team to keep these [00:38:28] concerns to myself but there's a strong [00:38:29] argument for delaying this a month that [00:38:32] being the strike doing the messaging [00:38:34] work on why this matters because again [00:38:37] when the houie strikes the the counter [00:38:39] houy strikes happened uh conservative [00:38:42] Tik Tok and social media exploded be [00:38:44] like why are we fighting this again this [00:38:45] is not what we're voting we voted for [00:38:47] why are we sending more money to Israel [00:38:49] so yes they do have a massive messaging [00:38:51] problem um [00:38:54] so yeah and of course uh uh at 8:27 a [00:38:58] message arrived from Pete Heth account [00:39:01] he says VP I understand your concerns [00:39:03] and fully support you raising this with [00:39:05] podus important considerations most of [00:39:08] which are tough to know how they play [00:39:10] out economy Ukraine peace Gaza I think [00:39:13] messaging is going to be tough no matter [00:39:15] what yeah because you're supposed to be [00:39:17] the anti-war candidate and now you're [00:39:19] bombing Yemen nobody knows who the houth [00:39:22] are this is kind of dumb because they've [00:39:25] been all over the news for the past year [00:39:26] and a half two years okay like at this [00:39:29] point people kind of know who they are [00:39:32] which is why we need to stay focused on [00:39:34] one why Biden failed and two Iran funded [00:39:39] of course this has been their messaging [00:39:40] since the start this has been no [00:39:42] different Iranian proxies are the [00:39:44] biggest threat to world peace and you [00:39:46] know we need to bomb Iran because of [00:39:48] that you know their messaging isn't [00:39:49] going to change but I don't think he [00:39:52] understands that this has been their [00:39:53] messaging the entire time but heg Seth [00:39:56] message goes on to state waiting a few [00:39:58] weeks or a month does not fundamentally [00:40:00] change the calculus that's true they've [00:40:03] been uh doing bombing runs against the [00:40:06] houthis for how many months now and they [00:40:08] haven't stopped [00:40:10] so okay immediate risks on waiting he [00:40:13] says one this leaks and we look [00:40:16] indecisive nope this leaked and you guys [00:40:19] look like idiots two Israel takes action [00:40:22] first or Gaza ceasefire falls apart [00:40:24] which [00:40:25] happened right after after these strikes [00:40:28] happened and we don't get to start on [00:40:30] our own terms yes you no longer get to [00:40:32] start on your own terms we can manage [00:40:34] both we are prepared to execute if I [00:40:36] have a final go or no vote I believe we [00:40:39] should heg Seth continues this is not [00:40:42] about the houth I see it as two things [00:40:45] one restoring freedom of navigation a [00:40:48] core natural National interest and of [00:40:50] course freedom of navigation is what we [00:40:52] use to justify interventionist policies [00:40:56] around the globe through our Naval [00:40:58] assets and two reestablished deterrence [00:41:01] which Biden cratered so they think that [00:41:04] they can bomb the houth into not [00:41:06] shooting them anymore and they think [00:41:09] they can intimidate Iran enough to give [00:41:12] nuclear [00:41:14] concessions continuing but we can early [00:41:16] pause and if we do I will do all we can [00:41:19] to enforce 100% o op sec I welcome other [00:41:24] thoughts um [00:41:28] yeah so uh that was kind of embarrassing [00:41:30] Mike Walsh National Security adviser [00:41:32] finally responds whether it's now or [00:41:34] several weeks for now it will have to be [00:41:36] the United States that reopens these [00:41:38] shipping lanes per the president's [00:41:40] request we are working with the [00:41:42] Department of Defense and state to [00:41:44] determine how to compile the cost and [00:41:46] Levy them on the [00:41:50] Europeans yeah I I think what they're [00:41:52] definitely trying to go for here and [00:41:54] it's not stated in this text is that [00:41:57] they are trying to uh you know get [00:42:00] Europe to pay for this operation in some [00:42:03] some way uh it because you know the the [00:42:06] shipping lanes through the Suz Canal [00:42:09] affect Europe way more than the United [00:42:12] States but the United States is footing [00:42:13] the bill for all these expensive [00:42:15] Maritime aerial operations and then JD [00:42:18] Vance [00:42:19] responds if you think we should do it [00:42:21] let's go I just hate bailing Europe out [00:42:24] again the Administration has argued that [00:42:26] uh that America's European allies [00:42:29] benefit economically from the US Navy's [00:42:31] protection of international shipping [00:42:37] lanes you know and then [00:42:40] finally VP this is Pete Heth going I [00:42:43] fully share your Lo loathing of European [00:42:46] freeloading it's pathetic but Mike is [00:42:49] correct we are the only ones on the [00:42:50] planet who can do this nobody else even [00:42:54] close a question is timing and yeah so [00:42:58] basically they don't have to worry about [00:43:00] it um because you know they're loathing [00:43:04] of Europe and their reopening of [00:43:05] shipping lanes isn't probably going to [00:43:07] happen anytime soon and now they're [00:43:09] bogged down by this massive Scandal so [00:43:12] they definitely does seem like a lot of [00:43:14] them wanted the the ceasefire in Gaza to [00:43:18] hold but of course you know they're all [00:43:21] establish Zionist so they can also like [00:43:23] not care at all as well but yeah so [00:43:26] that's where we're at right now and so [00:43:29] they don't want to bail Europe out [00:43:30] Europe's affected by the shipping lanes [00:43:33] but they want the United States to [00:43:35] retain deterrence that the US Navy can [00:43:38] protect shipping lanes no matter what [00:43:39] therefore we are the unipolar power we [00:43:42] are dominant but it hasn't been working [00:43:46] the shipping lanes have been shut down [00:43:48] we've done more hard-hitting combat [00:43:50] operations against the houth they're [00:43:52] still shutting ships down we've expended [00:43:54] over a billion dollars in anti an air [00:43:58] defense missiles and now we're sending [00:44:00] three a total of three carrier groups to [00:44:04] the Middle East so uh the USS Carl [00:44:07] Vincent apparently just anchored in Guam [00:44:09] and is gonna head over to straight of [00:44:12] Hormuz or the Gulf of Aiden and the USS [00:44:16] Nimitz the third carrier is currently [00:44:18] undergoing repairs in San Diego last I [00:44:22] read and that was of this morning and [00:44:24] then they're going to head to the Middle [00:44:25] East so three air carriers carrier [00:44:28] strike groups in one single body of [00:44:30] water is insane there is some concern [00:44:33] that they want to saturation bomb houth [00:44:35] in Yemen in order to beat them into [00:44:38] submission this would be highly uh [00:44:40] problematic for the United States and [00:44:43] especially [00:44:45] a candidate who platformed on being [00:44:48] anti-war so we'll have to see how the [00:44:52] United States public will tolerate this [00:44:54] also they're looking incredibly [00:44:55] incompetent [00:44:57] right now further thing is further [00:45:00] military cons [00:45:02] considerations with these operations is [00:45:05] that now that they've breached [00:45:07] operational security so badly like I've [00:45:10] talked to some people in the military [00:45:11] and I was in the military this is It's [00:45:13] really [00:45:15] demoralizing when you have to go to [00:45:17] seminars and take online classes about [00:45:20] how to maintain operational security [00:45:22] take cyber awareness courses especially [00:45:25] when you have a top secret security [00:45:26] clearance [00:45:27] uh precisely so that doesn't happen but [00:45:30] you're mandated to do it and if you [00:45:32] don't do it and you mess up you go to [00:45:33] jail but these guys are going to walk [00:45:35] away Scott free like the leading [00:45:37] officials that's not a that's not good [00:45:39] for morale and that's certainly not a [00:45:41] good um way to you know help the [00:45:45] recruiting crisis you know when the SE [00:45:47] def is kind of a joke like do you want [00:45:50] to join the military or stay in the [00:45:52] military when this happens like all of [00:45:54] this is going to redound and it's like [00:45:56] part of like a thousand Pricks that you [00:45:59] know start bleeding the Beast out so um [00:46:03] yeah um and this all goes back into [00:46:07] Trump's Middle East foreign policy so [00:46:11] first of all based off that it seems [00:46:14] like they wanted to they they were [00:46:15] thinking about delaying this for a [00:46:16] couple months but situation is [00:46:19] intolerable they want the trade lanes [00:46:21] open and the fact that they're even [00:46:22] doing this kind is kind of indicative [00:46:24] that a ground invasion seems very much [00:46:28] unlikely we said it from the start the [00:46:30] United States doesn't have the capacity [00:46:32] to do that right now also you know it [00:46:35] would demoralize the military people [00:46:36] don't know why we would do that so more [00:46:40] bombing more Aid to Israel in the [00:46:43] meantime and of course we'll continue to [00:46:45] influence what's going on in Syria the [00:46:47] dismantling of the Palestinian [00:46:49] resistance there uh potentially in [00:46:51] collusion with the government uh the new [00:46:54] government who is blocking Aid to [00:46:56] Hezbollah and re-entering uh reorienting [00:47:00] the security situation in the refugee [00:47:02] camps [00:47:03] there yeah and as well the the sustained [00:47:06] bombing of the Gaza Strip the continued [00:47:08] annexation of the West Bank and the the [00:47:11] assaults into Southern Lebanon now of [00:47:15] course we've talked about this before [00:47:17] Trump's entire foreign policy hinges on [00:47:20] him trying to [00:47:21] expand expand the Abraham Accords if you [00:47:24] recall back in his first presidency the [00:47:26] Abra Accords were how [00:47:29] he normalized relationships between [00:47:32] Bahrain the [00:47:34] UAE and Israel which means they were the [00:47:37] first Arab countries to recognize that [00:47:39] well actually Jordan did it a long time [00:47:41] ago but that's because Jordan had no [00:47:43] choice beyond the scope of this [00:47:45] conversation but yeah Bahrain the UAE to [00:47:49] normalize with Israel recognize it [00:47:50] sovereignty U Stop Trade restrictions [00:47:53] and have full diplomatic communication [00:47:56] and unfettered access so he wants to do [00:47:58] that for Lebanon they're pressuring the [00:48:01] Lebanese government to normalize with [00:48:03] Israel the United States is taking an [00:48:06] unprecedented role in the internal [00:48:08] politics of Lebanon we've talked about [00:48:11] this before ad nauseum we know it's why [00:48:14] they're building that massive monolithic [00:48:16] Embassy there it's a statement of intent [00:48:19] uh in Beirut then of course the we've [00:48:22] already heard reports and seen reporting [00:48:24] on how the US is pressuring uh Jani or [00:48:27] alara's new government to normalize with [00:48:30] Israel that I believe and a lot of other [00:48:33] analysts believe that they will flip and [00:48:35] turn into a comprador state in order to [00:48:39] remain politically viable in West Asia [00:48:43] and then they're uh they're leaning on [00:48:44] Iraq to also normalize with Israel so [00:48:47] what we're seeing what what Trump is [00:48:48] trying to do is secure Israel by pushing [00:48:52] for a pan Arab Abraham Accord where all [00:48:57] the governments all these like bgea [00:48:59] monarchies that benefit off the US [00:49:02] imperialism will finally just get to a [00:49:05] place where hey there's nothing standing [00:49:07] in the way of us intent and Israeli [00:49:09] intent and what are their own [00:49:11] populations going to do about it nothing [00:49:13] so they'll try to push for full [00:49:15] normalization in order to create the St [00:49:19] stable conditions for the imch corridor [00:49:23] so again imch corridor [00:49:27] I'm going to pull this up real [00:49:29] quick um just because you [00:49:33] know it's [00:49:36] uh it's it's something that we're doing [00:49:39] to kind of isolate and um compete with [00:49:42] China One Second sorry guys I got to [00:49:44] pull this up I'm just gonna use the [00:49:46] Wikipedia definition because it's it's [00:49:48] good enough in case you're not uh you [00:49:52] know tracking what this is this is the [00:49:54] India Middle East European [00:49:57] economic Corridor so tenants of this if [00:50:00] we pull up the [00:50:02] map and zoom in these are the major [00:50:05] players inv involved in the iMac [00:50:07] Corridor it's the US Western Europe or [00:50:10] most of Western Europe and the [00:50:12] idea is for this economic Corridor which [00:50:16] is going to compete with China's Bel and [00:50:18] Road up here through Iran into turkey [00:50:20] into Europe we're gonna start off in [00:50:23] Mumbai here if you're you're going to [00:50:25] zoom in a little bit more so you can see [00:50:27] it better oh no that's all it's letting [00:50:29] me do so Mumbai on the eastern coast of [00:50:32] India put it on ships go through UAE [00:50:36] into Saudi Arabia across the Gulf States [00:50:40] through Jordan ending off in the port of [00:50:42] he hia and ascalon in Israel shipping [00:50:46] off into Europe so that's the economic [00:50:49] Corridor that they want a more stable e [00:50:51] Middle East for and a answer to the [00:50:54] Palestinian question and of course it is [00:50:56] to isolate Iran break Russia from Iran [00:51:01] and isolate China and undermine their uh [00:51:04] what would be their multi-polar system [00:51:07] of global infrastructure so goes [00:51:13] from normalization I met Corridor China [00:51:17] isolation I mean it's really complicated [00:51:20] but those are the main points of Trump's [00:51:22] foreign policy and the thing is they're [00:51:23] not even that different from Biden's [00:51:26] policy you know Biden just wanted the [00:51:27] war in Ukraine to go on and Trump's [00:51:29] actually not you know he I think he's [00:51:32] really fine with it but uh he he he does [00:51:35] pretend to be less hawkish about the war [00:51:37] in ukra so that's kind of what we're [00:51:39] looking at [00:51:40] y'all um yeah and in the meantime [00:51:44] they're dealing with this massive [00:51:45] Scandal which is in their first 100 days [00:51:48] the first 100 days of a presidency are [00:51:51] like what establishes the momentum for [00:51:53] the next three years next uh like three [00:51:55] and a half years and it's kind of [00:51:57] devastating to have a scandal on this [00:51:59] scale we're going to see how it shakes [00:52:01] out um but like this is going to [00:52:04] dominate a lot of their media messaging [00:52:06] about Doge The Cutting of federal [00:52:09] programs it's just G to be hard to deal [00:52:11] with and it's kind of messy and it's not [00:52:13] great for them which I'm totally fine [00:52:15] with because why would you need another [00:52:17] two aircraft carriers in West Asia like [00:52:21] just stop so if you can get bogged down [00:52:24] and it can somehow influence your [00:52:26] foreign policy to be less hawkish and [00:52:28] alienate people well I'm I'm totally [00:52:31] fine with that all right so let's dump [00:52:33] some questions in here I kind of went a [00:52:35] little over because there's a lot to [00:52:36] cover but uh yeah let's see what we [00:52:39] got [00:52:42] okay o okay cool good question what are [00:52:46] your thoughts on Israel's security [00:52:48] meeting over turkey's involvement in [00:52:53] Syria okay so there's a couple meetings [00:52:55] that I'm tracking [00:52:57] um first of all I know [00:53:00] that um you know Turkey is seeking us [00:53:04] sanctions relief and warmer ties in [00:53:07] Washington visit uh there's a [00:53:09] long-standing history of like a [00:53:11] sanctioning turkey and a lot of the big [00:53:13] things about our sanctions is like [00:53:15] they're geared towards like military [00:53:17] aspects like [00:53:19] [Music] [00:53:20] um they want us to lift sanctions in [00:53:23] order to let the country back into a [00:53:25] crucial fighter jet program uh we have [00:53:29] we have sanctions on their fighter jets [00:53:32] and um you know the ties between us and [00:53:35] turkey have drifted away from a [00:53:37] strategic partnership in recent years [00:53:39] because like disagreements between the [00:53:42] two longstanding allies have widened [00:53:45] so um yeah I'm not [00:53:50] sure [00:53:51] if what this has to do with the Syria [00:53:54] policy sorry I've been focusing so much [00:53:57] on um on the signal signal gate and the [00:54:01] specifics of the US Fleet action in [00:54:05] Yemen let me Circle back on that and [00:54:07] I'll make some posts but yeah uh turkey [00:54:10] definitely wants to have better [00:54:12] relationships with the United States [00:54:19] um all right claro what happens when the [00:54:21] second coming isn't coming because no [00:54:23] one thinks this is any form of [00:54:28] reality yeah um is this a is this a [00:54:32] theological question because I'm very [00:54:35] very secular but I just feel like [00:54:37] everything that's going on right now if [00:54:39] if you what you mean by the second [00:54:41] coming is the second coming of Jesus [00:54:42] Christ I feel like you'd be pissed [00:54:45] so [00:54:47] um uh yeah uh next [00:54:50] question de El Sendero yeah looking [00:54:53] rough looking really rough for the [00:54:55] resistance right now yeah um you this is [00:54:59] the whole thing that's difficult about [00:55:01] talking about Syria right um just is [00:55:05] because Assad was a bah dictator and he [00:55:09] didn't really do anything to help the [00:55:10] resistance and he oppressed a lot of his [00:55:12] population and people hated him for [00:55:14] really legitimate reasons but on the [00:55:16] same [00:55:17] token you know he did let arms and [00:55:20] intelligence through he also like like [00:55:24] any other authoritarian regime [00:55:26] controlled his own drug trade and you [00:55:28] know if they helped out with that that's [00:55:29] fine by him but yeah since the collapse [00:55:33] of that uh it's isolated Hezbollah they [00:55:35] will uh lacking in intelligence and [00:55:39] actual replenishment arms and Rockets [00:55:41] that they were getting through the [00:55:43] border and yeah they're getting choked [00:55:46] out choked off and isolated uh also the [00:55:51] government is and the people who are [00:55:54] anti- hesban in Syria are waging an [00:55:55] information War saying that Hezbollah [00:55:58] came across the border a couple weeks [00:56:00] ago killed three soldiers and you know [00:56:04] are basically trying to start a war [00:56:05] which isn't true they're just trying to [00:56:06] manufacture consent for more actions [00:56:08] against Hezbollah so they're hurting uh [00:56:11] Yemen uh one of the reasons that they're [00:56:13] sending a car another carrier Fleet [00:56:16] group or three carrier Fleet groups is [00:56:18] to control and Patrol the entire [00:56:21] straight of hormas in any way that Iran [00:56:25] is shipping [00:56:27] weapons or Electronics or avionics to [00:56:30] Yemen because Yemen doesn't have an a [00:56:33] strong Electronics or avionics industry [00:56:36] like they can they can construct Rockets [00:56:38] you believe um but yeah the the [00:56:42] Precision gear the Precision equipment [00:56:45] is coming from Iran so what the US [00:56:48] Navy's tactical or strategic objective [00:56:50] is going to be is to degrade the [00:56:52] leadership networks destroy their supply [00:56:55] cach a days all right and then roll up [00:56:58] their supply lines choke off their [00:57:00] supply lines so these carrier strike [00:57:03] groups aren't necessarily for bombing [00:57:05] Yemen they're for creating a deafening [00:57:09] or or or a a smothering impenetrable [00:57:12] wall of Naval checkpoints and Customs [00:57:16] Enforcement essentially so yeah they're [00:57:20] they're literally trying to choke off [00:57:21] every viable resistance Network and then [00:57:23] of course um the US government has [00:57:26] warned Iraq [00:57:29] that there will be strikes inside of [00:57:32] their territory if kab Hezbollah or the [00:57:36] popular mobilization units in Iraq in [00:57:39] any way retaliate against us bases for [00:57:44] military actions against uh Yemen and [00:57:47] the houthis so yeah Iraq's in play too [00:57:50] in terms of um you know getting [00:57:53] threatened at the very least like if [00:57:55] Iran wants to supply popular [00:57:58] mobilization forces in in um in Iraq [00:58:02] there's nothing the US military can do [00:58:04] or anyone can do to stop it because Iran [00:58:06] and Iraq have a very large unsecured [00:58:10] border that you'll never be able to [00:58:11] police ever so the most you can do is [00:58:14] threaten their government to to police [00:58:16] it for us and so that's what we're [00:58:18] seeing yeah basically the military we [00:58:20] talked about the political strategy here [00:58:22] but the military strategy is to cut off [00:58:25] isolate and smother every uh resistance [00:58:29] faction so it's looking pretty bleak uh [00:58:32] I'm not sure how it's going to work but [00:58:34] yeah it's going to be like uh the uh The [00:58:37] Dark Night of the Soul before like act [00:58:40] three we're looking at Empire Strikes [00:58:41] Back right now but I mean hezb hasn't [00:58:44] gone anywhere the houth have been bombed [00:58:47] since [00:58:49] 2014 and I don't know how you deal with [00:58:52] the other elements that are in play so [00:58:56] yeah they'll try it they'll spend a lot [00:58:57] of money trying it they'll drop a lot of [00:58:59] bombs trying it but I don't see how it [00:59:02] works and in the meantime they've still [00:59:04] got this uh this massive Scandal wow [00:59:07] okay well looks like an hour passed [00:59:11] really quick at least did for me so um I [00:59:14] think we have to wrap it there we are [00:59:17] out of time and out of questions as well [00:59:21] so I hope this was informative and [00:59:22] helpful for y'all and great seeing you [00:59:26] always and we will see you here on M [00:59:28] Press News next Monday or next Tuesday [00:59:33] we'll keep you updated and see you then [00:59:35] cheers y'all