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[00:00:01] Okay, you guys, I'm sorry that I'm [00:00:02] running late today. Just so much that I [00:00:04] wanted to cover or our last show before [00:00:07] we go off air next week preparing for [00:00:09] our limited Erica Kirk series. Now, we [00:00:12] had received a large influx of emails [00:00:14] because Baron Coleman had a bit of a [00:00:17] viral episode regarding a seemingly [00:00:20] weird relationship that Erica had with a [00:00:23] then 15-year-old girl named Jillian. [00:00:26] Erica was 25 years old at the time and [00:00:29] they developed a relationship that some [00:00:31] people believe amounted to a type of [00:00:33] grooming. Now Baron Coleman was very [00:00:36] clear. He gave specific instructions to [00:00:38] his viewers not to reach out to Jillian [00:00:41] who is now an adult about the situation [00:00:44] and I for some reason was unable to [00:00:46] follow these simple instructions. I [00:00:47] reached out to her immediately. I don't [00:00:48] know what's wrong with me but I had a [00:00:50] great chat with her about her dynamic [00:00:52] with Erica. So, welcome back to Candace [00:01:13] Okay, shout out to Nimi Skincare for [00:01:16] sponsoring today's episode. It's the [00:01:17] only skincare brand that I've actually [00:01:19] stayed consistent with and what my [00:01:21] routine is built around. Winter is when [00:01:22] skin really takes a beating and that [00:01:24] dryness can make fine lines show up [00:01:26] faster. You can find them by visiting [00:01:28] nimiskinare.com and use my code candace [00:01:30] 10 at checkout and you'll get 10% off [00:01:33] your order. Okay, so today obviously [00:01:36] like I said is our last episode before [00:01:37] we take a week off air pulling things [00:01:40] together for our Erica Kirk biographical [00:01:43] series working title Fatal Attraction. [00:01:46] I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Maybe I'm [00:01:48] kidding. We don't know. Speaking of A [00:01:50] Fatal Attraction, something uh that has [00:01:52] been doing the rounds on social media [00:01:55] thanks to first and foremost a YouTuber [00:01:58] by the name of NY. So full credit to Ny. [00:02:00] And then of course Baron Coleman picked [00:02:02] it up. I love it. We're all just pulling [00:02:04] information and here we are. Uh is [00:02:07] regarding this relationship that Erica [00:02:09] had over it looks like social media. A [00:02:12] lot of it played out over social media. [00:02:14] And I'm just going to actually cut to NY [00:02:16] here who's going to unpack it for you [00:02:19] and give you a little bit of background. [00:02:21] It's 2013 [00:02:23] and therefore Erica has just completed [00:02:26] her year as Miss Arizona and she's 25 [00:02:30] years old at the time Erica is. And now [00:02:32] you're going to learn how she met [00:02:34] Jillian. Take a listen. Back in 2013, [00:02:38] Erica was 25 years old and she was in a [00:02:40] relationship with a basketball player [00:02:42] named Joshua Harelson. So, at the time, [00:02:44] he was living in Michigan and Erica [00:02:47] moved out there to be with him. On the [00:02:49] evening of September 15th, 2013, Joshua [00:02:52] Harelson and Erica met a 15-year-old [00:02:54] girl named Jillian Falcon. And I know [00:02:57] this because Jillian tweeted about it. [00:02:59] At 3:53 p.m., Jillian tweeted that she [00:03:01] was out for sushi with her friend. And 2 [00:03:03] hours later, she tweeted, "Just met Miss [00:03:05] Arizona and Josh Harrelson. Heart eyes [00:03:08] emoji." Now, I'm not sure if Jillian [00:03:10] coincidentally bumped into Erica and [00:03:12] Joshua or if they were introduced. What [00:03:15] I do know is that Jillian had a friend [00:03:18] and the friend's grandparents were [00:03:20] renting a home to Erica in Michigan. So, [00:03:23] I'm not entirely sure if all of these [00:03:25] people just bumped into each other [00:03:26] coincidentally at the sushi restaurant [00:03:28] or if they were formally introduced, but [00:03:31] nonetheless, they met and Erica struck [00:03:33] up what I view as a very odd [00:03:36] relationship with the 15-year-old girl [00:03:38] named Jillian. [00:03:40] So, I can help clarify. I can build on [00:03:42] that. Like I said, I spoke with Jillian [00:03:44] and that information, part of that [00:03:46] information is is very accurate. It was [00:03:48] about payment for rent and that is how [00:03:52] Jillian meets Erica Kirk. She opens the [00:03:56] door. She's presumably living with or [00:03:59] visiting her boyfriend at the time and [00:04:02] she sees Erica Kirk and she thinks, "Oh [00:04:04] my gosh, this girl, 25-year-old girl, is [00:04:07] so beautiful and Erica is extremely kind [00:04:10] to her." and they start speaking and [00:04:12] somehow and Jillian does not recall how [00:04:14] this transpired. Somehow during this [00:04:17] rent arrangement, Erica and her exchange [00:04:22] numbers. Okay. So, what happens next is [00:04:24] they begin messaging each other, a [00:04:26] texting relationship and across social [00:04:29] media, making comments on each other, [00:04:32] one another's posts. And in the [00:04:33] beginning, it seems fine enough. I guess [00:04:35] the conversation is polite. maybe [00:04:37] something that you might expect to see [00:04:39] between someone who has some level of [00:04:42] notoriety or fame and one of their fans [00:04:44] over social media, but then it picks up [00:04:47] just as nice indicates it. It picks up [00:04:50] and I am going to allow you to listen to [00:04:54] her explain what then transpires. And I [00:04:56] would also again like to reinforce the [00:04:59] fact that this girl Jillian is 15 years [00:05:03] old and Erica is 25. It's worth [00:05:05] mentioning that at this point in her [00:05:07] biography, Erica is also working with [00:05:11] sex trafficking charities. This is that [00:05:13] year where she says that she got [00:05:15] involved with a sex trafficking charity [00:05:18] over in China. I'll have more for you on [00:05:20] that next week. But take it away, Nicey. [00:05:25] On February 13th, 2014, Jillian replied [00:05:28] to one of Erica's tweets by saying, [00:05:30] "Erica France, gorgeous as always." A [00:05:33] few hours later, she then tweeted, "Why [00:05:35] did at@ Erica France feet just send me [00:05:38] this laughing emojis and there is a [00:05:40] photo which says, "This Valentine's Day, [00:05:43] I am going to touch your butt." Jillian [00:05:45] posted this tweet on March 6th, 2014. [00:05:48] So, Erica says, "Let me call you, hold [00:05:50] on, sweetheart. Give me a sex." Wow. And [00:05:53] then Jillian says, "Okay." And puts [00:05:55] laughing emojis. Erica then says, "Se [00:05:58] sex too, but not from you, lol. Holy [00:06:01] laughing emoji. You always make me [00:06:03] laugh. I don't bat for the other team [00:06:05] just yet. On March 13th, 2014, Jillian [00:06:08] shared another screenshot of her text [00:06:10] messages with Erica. Erica says, "I [00:06:13] forgot to tell you, hydrate tonight. No [00:06:16] alcohol and don't eat a lot of salty [00:06:18] foods. You don't want to look bloated." [00:06:21] Jillian then responds, "Thank you." [00:06:23] Erica says, "No alcohol. Really, Erica?" [00:06:25] Age recognition, you waffle. [00:06:27] Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet. [00:06:30] What the hell, Erica? Laughing emoji. [00:06:32] Well, on that bite dot dot dot note. [00:06:35] Damn you, Siri. Come on. # the struggle. [00:06:38] What are you trying to say? Laughing [00:06:40] emoji. Spit it out, you waffle. On [00:06:42] the morning of March 26th, 2014, Jillian [00:06:45] tweeted, "I just want to be somebody's [00:06:47] woman crush Wednesday. Is that too much [00:06:49] to ask?" That evening, she then tweets, [00:06:51] "Thank you, at Erica France, for making [00:06:53] my whole week." and she shares this [00:06:55] photo and the photo is of a gnome and it [00:06:59] says, "I want to be inside your lady [00:07:01] garden." Know what I'm saying? On April [00:07:03] 3rd, 2014, Jillian tweeted this picture [00:07:06] and said, "I miss this goon." A few [00:07:08] minutes later, she tweeted, "Did Erica [00:07:10] just text me # no friends? Oh my god, I [00:07:14] can't." A few days later, on April 5th, [00:07:17] 2014, Jillian posted this tweet. getting [00:07:19] this in the mail from Erica Fronie. And [00:07:22] in the photo is a red box of [00:07:23] chocolatecovered strawberries and other [00:07:25] chocolate desserts. And the card in the [00:07:27] photo says this, "Happy sweet 16, [00:07:29] beautiful girl. Keep strong in faith and [00:07:31] know that you're loved. But most of all, [00:07:33] never forget that you are perfect and [00:07:35] amazing just the way you are. I am so [00:07:37] proud of you. Today is the first day of [00:07:40] another 365day journey around the sun. [00:07:43] Enjoy the trip, boo. Love you, E." On [00:07:45] June 7th, 2014, Jillian shared this [00:07:48] tweet. This has to be the most heartfelt [00:07:50] compliment I've ever gotten. And she [00:07:52] attached a screenshot of her [00:07:53] conversation with Erica. So, Jillian [00:07:56] says, "Thank you." Erica says, "You have [00:07:58] the most stunning features." Jillian [00:08:00] says, "Best compliment ever." Erica [00:08:03] says, "Your eyes, your lips, your skin. [00:08:06] You're absolutely beautiful." Jillian [00:08:08] responds with the crying emoji, "You're [00:08:10] making me cry." In February of 2014, [00:08:13] Jillian went on a family trip to Puerto [00:08:14] Rico and Erica was liking and commenting [00:08:17] on her Instagram posts. So, Jillian [00:08:19] posted this photo of the beach and Erica [00:08:21] says, "Unreal, gorgeous." And then [00:08:23] Jillian responds, "This is by far my [00:08:25] favorite picture I took. My mom wants to [00:08:27] get it blown up at Erica France." Erica [00:08:30] responds, "I could see why, boo." [00:08:31] Jillian responds, "So perfect at Erica [00:08:34] France." Erica then responds, "Dot, yes, [00:08:37] I know you are. [00:08:42] I'm just going to follow that with a [00:08:43] little bit of silence. I just want us to [00:08:46] all contemplate it. Let's actually [00:08:49] contemplate it for the people who are [00:08:50] going to try to explain it. The Eric [00:08:53] explainers who are going to be like, [00:08:55] "That's not weird." No. What? Never been [00:08:57] a 25-year-old sending chocolatecovered [00:09:00] strawberries to a 15-year-old. [00:09:03] That's not weird. You guys are haters. [00:09:06] No. What? Oh, come on. You've never, as [00:09:08] a 25year-old, [00:09:10] decided to message a 15-year-old about [00:09:14] their lips and their skin and how [00:09:17] perfect they are. You never decided to [00:09:20] message them when they posted a photo of [00:09:22] them with a a person that's their age [00:09:24] and said, "No new friends." Almost like [00:09:27] territorial or that's obviously all just [00:09:29] a joke or something like that. By the [00:09:31] way, just in general, going back to how [00:09:33] they met, I'm trying to rationalize in [00:09:34] my head. Under what scenario, if a [00:09:37] 15-year-old, if you open the door and a [00:09:38] 15-year-old was there, would you [00:09:40] exchange numbers with them? Like, I'm [00:09:42] trying to rationalize. I maybe if they [00:09:44] were with their parent and they were [00:09:46] like, the parents were like, "He's [00:09:48] looking for a job. Like, I don't know if [00:09:49] you need like a babysitter. [00:09:51] You guys want to go to dinner for a [00:09:52] couple of hours?" Sort of a thing maybe. [00:09:56] But I'd probably take the parents [00:09:57] number. Yeah, I would definitely take [00:09:58] the parents number. I actually can't [00:09:59] rationalize that. So, I'm throwing that [00:10:02] out because sometimes people in the chat [00:10:03] can be more creative than me and they [00:10:04] can say, "Oh, no. It's totally adorable [00:10:06] to exchange numbers to 15-year-olds." [00:10:08] And then kind of have this relationship [00:10:10] with them um where you're commenting and [00:10:15] saying, making lesbian jokes. I don't, [00:10:18] you know, swing for the next team yet. [00:10:19] Is that appropriate to say to a [00:10:21] 15-year-old when you're 25? Come on. [00:10:24] Where are my Where are my Erica [00:10:25] explainers in the chat? [00:10:27] I want to hear it. We're It's It's a [00:10:29] time to be alive. You know, everyone's [00:10:30] explaining Jeffrey Epste and all of his [00:10:32] friends. Go ahead. Go for it. I think [00:10:33] it's fine. Go ahead. I want to hear it. [00:10:36] There's so much that disturbs me about [00:10:40] that, but again, I when I first was [00:10:43] going, everything is wrong here. That's [00:10:44] my natural intuition. I didn't want to [00:10:47] then extrapolate and jump to conclusions [00:10:49] until I spoke with Jillian on the off [00:10:52] chance that maybe it is my personal [00:10:53] senses, having learned everything about [00:10:56] Erica's background. Maybe my personal [00:10:58] senses about Erica might be clouding my [00:11:00] judgment. Maybe there was a perfectly [00:11:02] reasonable expect, you know, explanation [00:11:04] for that sort of relationship. Maybe uh [00:11:07] she really is just such an amazing [00:11:10] person by the time she's 25 years old, [00:11:13] such a strong and faithful Christian [00:11:16] that she wants a 15-year-old to feel [00:11:19] sexy or something. And I also want to [00:11:23] note that that this particular [00:11:25] 15-year-old at this time, what we know [00:11:27] based off of Jillian's tweets is that [00:11:29] she doesn't have a father in her life. [00:11:30] Okay? She tweeted this in June of 2014. [00:11:33] I haven't seen my dad over two years. [00:11:38] Okay. The reason why I want to point [00:11:39] that out is because Charlie Kirk and I [00:11:41] did a lot on the road discussing father [00:11:43] absence and how these teenagers and [00:11:47] children are instantly more vulnerable [00:11:48] to tons of things getting involved in [00:11:51] the wrong networks, uh, criminal [00:11:52] activity. You need a father in the home. [00:11:54] So, I just find it interesting that it [00:11:56] it's a good fact to know about this girl [00:11:58] at this time. Maybe her father's in her [00:12:00] life since. I don't know. I didn't ask [00:12:02] her, but I told you I called her. I [00:12:04] instantly reached out because sometimes [00:12:06] I just can't follow instructions the [00:12:07] right way. And I asked her about how she [00:12:10] felt about it, 10 years removed from a [00:12:12] situation. And she responded exactly how [00:12:15] you might expect. She said at the time, [00:12:18] as a 15-year-old, she was blown away by [00:12:20] this amazingly beautiful older semi [00:12:24] famous person [00:12:27] that was giving her all of this [00:12:28] attention. And for clarity, I am [00:12:30] completely empathetic to that position [00:12:32] and experience as a younger girl. [00:12:34] Obviously, I correlated to how I felt. I [00:12:36] think I've told you guys in the past [00:12:37] about Christine Aguilera when she first [00:12:39] dropped and then I was obsessed with her [00:12:42] when I was 13, 14 years old. My mom put [00:12:44] me on punishment because I was so [00:12:45] obsessed with Christa. Christine [00:12:47] Aguilera at that point in my life, maybe [00:12:50] if my mom had not punished me for [00:12:51] idolatry, but at that point in my life, [00:12:53] I'm racing home to watch TRL because I [00:12:56] got to make sure she's number one. If [00:12:57] Christina Aguilera had then given me [00:13:00] tons of attention, I'd be like, "Oh, [00:13:01] that can't I can't even believe this. [00:13:03] Christina Aguilera is giving me [00:13:05] attention." She probably could have [00:13:06] manipulated me into a lot of things [00:13:09] because my brain would not have been [00:13:10] developed. This is normal tween to early [00:13:14] teen emotions and passion. And it's [00:13:16] precisely, if you track my work, what [00:13:19] has always been my biggest gripe with [00:13:20] Taylor Swift, even though I like her [00:13:22] music, it's because I find that she [00:13:24] harnesses the power of that tween [00:13:26] emotion to get business deals done. Yet, [00:13:29] she's 36. Anyway, I digress. That's the [00:13:31] point of that. We know that they're [00:13:33] reactive. They're emotional and her fans [00:13:35] will kill somebody if they have to, [00:13:37] right? [00:13:38] But hindsight is 2020 as we always say [00:13:41] and Jillian today is now 27 years old [00:13:44] and she fully appreciates how absolutely [00:13:46] weird this was and how absolutely weird [00:13:48] it is and she's going back and she is [00:13:49] wondering what exactly was this all [00:13:52] about? [00:13:53] What exactly was Erica harnessing her [00:13:58] teenage emotion for? Why is she [00:14:01] continually telling her that she's [00:14:04] beautiful, that she has perfect lips? [00:14:06] Why is this 25year-old who's not even [00:14:10] from Michigan [00:14:12] interested in this dialogue with her? [00:14:13] And something she points out is, I was [00:14:15] with my friend when I met her, but she [00:14:17] never had this relationship with [00:14:18] Cheyenne. Cheyenne is mentioned [00:14:20] elsewhere in that video. Why why was it [00:14:22] particularly Jillian that she was [00:14:24] interested in? And curiously, get this. [00:14:28] She tells me that she and Erica actually [00:14:31] never hung out in person beyond that [00:14:33] first meeting. So, this was purely meant [00:14:36] to be an electronic a platonic [00:14:38] relationship where Erica said stuff even [00:14:42] like this to her on Instagram. Jillian, [00:14:46] that dime piece beside the car though, [00:14:49] she's referring to Jillian. Just so you [00:14:50] just so we're she's referring to Jillian [00:14:53] beside a car as a dying piece. Again, if [00:14:57] this was two 15year-olds speaking to [00:14:58] each other, I'd be like, "That's totally [00:15:00] fine." I actually tend to agree with [00:15:04] Nice's assessment elsewhere in the [00:15:06] video. Just put in your mind, this is a [00:15:08] 25-year-old man referring to a [00:15:10] 15-year-old girl. What would happen? [00:15:13] What would you be thinking? And again, [00:15:16] Erica did not actually hang out with her [00:15:18] beyond that. So, what exactly was her [00:15:20] stated goal? Well, I can at least tell [00:15:22] you what that last weird text exchange [00:15:25] was about. The one where Erica tells her [00:15:27] not to drink and to suck her stomach in [00:15:30] tonight, forever they're going tonight. [00:15:33] People assumed that they had gone [00:15:34] somewhere together. But no, that [00:15:36] exchange is actually in reference to [00:15:37] Erica then having sent this 15-year-old [00:15:41] to have photos taken. [00:15:44] Insane. She she sent this 15-year-old to [00:15:46] have photos taken. helping her cuz she's [00:15:48] just so beautiful get into maybe some [00:15:51] modeling. That's at least how she [00:15:53] presented to her. So after telling her [00:15:55] how beautiful and perfect her lips were, [00:15:57] she then sets her up with a [00:15:59] photographer, a friend of Erica's. [00:16:00] Erica, she says, arranged the entire [00:16:03] thing. This person she had only met [00:16:05] once, then after what maybe love bombing [00:16:09] her describe it, then sends her to meet [00:16:11] up with this male photographer. And [00:16:12] Jillian said that this photographer was [00:16:14] kind of creepy. She's trying to remember [00:16:15] his name. She says she remembers it [00:16:17] began with an R and he was kind of [00:16:19] shorter, chubbier. And yeah, I'd say [00:16:24] yeah, Jillian, that's pretty creepy. Any [00:16:26] photographer who is taking photos of a [00:16:29] 15-year-old without their parents' [00:16:32] consent is a creep. [00:16:35] Find me this. I I am looking to find and [00:16:39] discover who this person was. And I [00:16:42] would also similarly say that any person [00:16:45] who is arranging for photographs to be [00:16:48] taken of a 15-year-old girl without [00:16:51] explicit permission from that person's [00:16:54] mother is a total creep. So Erica having [00:16:57] done this is completely and utterly [00:16:59] creepy. It's creepy. It makes no sense. [00:17:02] It makes no sense. I will not allow [00:17:03] people to say that it makes sense in [00:17:05] some context. Like it just doesn't make [00:17:06] any sense. I asked did she did she speak [00:17:08] to your mother? She said no she never [00:17:09] spoke to my mother. this was happening [00:17:11] on the phone. Her mom's probably [00:17:13] thinking she's just on Instagram [00:17:15] speaking to whoever and she's not even [00:17:17] considering that this is happening. So, [00:17:19] what does all of this sound like? It [00:17:22] sounds to me like every parent's worst [00:17:24] nightmare. Your kid has a phone, they [00:17:26] get social media accounts, they're [00:17:28] making friends over the internet, and [00:17:29] the next thing you know, you find out [00:17:30] that there's a man at night, if Erica's [00:17:33] message is to be believed, who's taking [00:17:36] photos of them. [00:17:39] So, I'll ask the question, the obvious [00:17:40] question here. How much smoke before we [00:17:43] are allowed to confirm that it seems [00:17:46] there may be a fire? Because everything [00:17:49] in Erica Kirk's story, which we will [00:17:51] more thoroughly present to you in the [00:17:52] weeks to come, has proximity to child [00:17:56] trafficking scandals and proximity to [00:17:59] charities and involvement with charities [00:18:01] that had trafficking scandals and abuse [00:18:04] scandals. sometimes literal proximity. [00:18:07] By the way, like I think I've mentioned [00:18:09] this, Turning Point USA's headquarters, [00:18:11] incredibly, maybe I haven't mentioned [00:18:13] it. They're almost directly across the [00:18:15] street from the number one human human [00:18:18] and child sex trafficking location in [00:18:20] Arizona, a place called Arizona Mills. [00:18:22] If you're in Arizona, everyone goes, [00:18:23] "Oh, yeah, I know what that is. [00:18:24] Everybody knows about Arizona Mills." [00:18:26] Who picked this location for a student [00:18:28] activist organization? [00:18:31] Who was the real estate agent agent on [00:18:33] that deal? I feel like when you a good [00:18:34] real estate agent comes around, you're [00:18:35] like, "Oh, is this a good spot?" And [00:18:37] they'd say, "You know what? You don't [00:18:38] want to be close to to Arizona Mills." [00:18:39] That's No, it's not a great spot for a [00:18:41] student activist organization. [00:18:43] Was Erica the real estate agent? And [00:18:45] actually, I do know who who handpicked [00:18:47] it. I was around for that. It was Tyler [00:18:48] Boyer. He's like a proud fifth [00:18:51] generation, I think he says, Arizonan. [00:18:54] He grew up in its backyard, right, [00:18:56] Chandler Gilbert area. So, I'm going to [00:18:58] go ahead and assume that he was familiar [00:19:00] with the reputation of Arizona Mills. [00:19:04] Tracy Martin, Erica's best friend, she's [00:19:06] also has been involved in charity work [00:19:07] for trafficking victims uh via Dream [00:19:10] City Church, which we mentioned to you. [00:19:12] And that actually makes sense because [00:19:14] Dream City Church runs uh Phoenix Dream [00:19:17] Center. Phoenix Dream Center, according [00:19:20] to their website, is a center that [00:19:21] provides residential rehabilitation [00:19:25] uh shelter and care for victims of human [00:19:29] trafficking. Wow. Everyone is so [00:19:31] amazing. So amazing. They just can't get [00:19:34] enough of trying to help these [00:19:36] trafficking victims. It says that they [00:19:37] provide affordable housing for men and [00:19:40] women that are in transition having [00:19:42] after having been trafficked. They give [00:19:44] them food. They give them clothing. [00:19:46] Nothing to see there because it's a [00:19:47] charity. You can't question a charity. [00:19:49] Turning Point USA charity. You can't [00:19:50] question a charity. [00:19:52] Stacy Sheridan, who has been playing the [00:19:54] role of Erica Kirk's mother, we recently [00:19:56] discovered, worked under Jeffrey [00:19:59] Epstein's friend, Kenneth Star at [00:20:03] Pepperdine University. By the way, I [00:20:04] can't find a trace of her actually at [00:20:06] Pepperdine University, aside from her [00:20:09] resume where she says she worked there [00:20:11] for eight years, but in Ken the Star's [00:20:13] office. But the point is is that for [00:20:16] almost a decade, she worked for Ken Star [00:20:19] at the exact same time that he was [00:20:22] working with Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. But [00:20:25] Stacy Sheridan is not Erica's real mom. [00:20:28] Lori is Erica's real mother. We had [00:20:30] mentioned to you this desert spirit tech [00:20:32] company that she was running. Lori was [00:20:34] running on a Native American [00:20:36] reservation. And boy were we hit with a [00:20:38] lot of emails about, you guessed it, [00:20:42] high instances of children and girls [00:20:45] being trafficked off of that specific [00:20:48] reservation where the office is not [00:20:51] located [00:20:53] because somebody went and they said this [00:20:54] this address does not exist. But all of [00:20:56] that, by the way, we'll get into in the [00:20:58] weeks to come. In the short term, we can [00:21:01] confirm that this just must be all one [00:21:04] unfortunate coincidence, right? All of [00:21:06] it. You are a monster, by the way, for [00:21:09] even noticing this. For even noticing [00:21:12] this theme, you are a monster for [00:21:14] wondering if Charlie also began to [00:21:17] notice this theme in the end. Because [00:21:20] what exactly happened the night before [00:21:22] he died? Why was Erica being so weird, [00:21:26] but providing a sensible alibi for her [00:21:28] whereabouts on September 8th? Why did [00:21:30] nobody see her uh when somebody else [00:21:33] believes they did see her at Fort Wuka? [00:21:36] Speaking of September 8th, by the way, [00:21:38] it's also an important date to flag. I [00:21:40] think it's a little weird, but it's a [00:21:42] fact that Erica chose that date in [00:21:44] particular to break her years Twitter [00:21:48] silence. Did you know this? Erica had [00:21:50] not authored a tweet since 2023, right? [00:21:53] She had retweeted a couple of things. [00:21:55] who knows that somebody did it for her, [00:21:56] but she herself had not offered a tweet. [00:21:59] Suddenly, 48 hours before Charlie's [00:22:02] death on September 8th at 10:49 a.m. [00:22:05] Arizona time, she decides to break that [00:22:07] silence with this tweet scripture, [00:22:10] Ephesians 2:8, for by grace you have [00:22:12] been saved through faith, and this is [00:22:15] not your own doing. It is the gift of [00:22:16] God, not a result of works, so that no [00:22:18] one may boast. Okay? And suddenly, she [00:22:20] then was on a roll. She then tweeted [00:22:22] again on September 9th, uh, 9:44 a.m. [00:22:24] local time. She tweeted, "Oh, taste and [00:22:28] see that the Lord is good. Blessed is [00:22:30] the man that takes refuge in him." [00:22:33] And then again, on the day that Charlie [00:22:35] is assassinated at 9:45 a.m. Arizona [00:22:38] time, which is an hour and a half, okay, [00:22:41] an hour and a half before he's killed, [00:22:42] Erica tweets, "God is our refuge and [00:22:45] strength, a very present help in [00:22:48] trouble." People ram like, "Wow, I can't [00:22:50] believe this. this this godly woman [00:22:51] happened to have tweeted this right [00:22:52] before her husband got assassinated. [00:22:58] Like I said, you're you're a monster for [00:22:59] noticing. If you're thinking that that [00:23:01] like no, she just really did suddenly [00:23:03] want to break her Twitter silence and [00:23:05] she's very, as we can see, she's she is [00:23:07] committed to the Lord. Every sentence, [00:23:10] every sentence that comes out is about [00:23:12] God. So, you how could you question it, [00:23:13] right? Anyway, before we go off air for [00:23:17] next week, I want to be thorough and [00:23:19] again put out an APB for certain [00:23:22] information. So, um, a couple of things [00:23:26] before we get into what we're looking [00:23:27] for at more tips atones.com. The reason [00:23:29] Julian is speaking to me is because [00:23:30] she's asking people to stop messaging [00:23:33] her. She doesn't want people messaging [00:23:34] her. She's like, "I'm already in [00:23:35] communication with you. We're trying to [00:23:37] figure things out. We're trying to [00:23:38] figure out who this um photographer was [00:23:40] that took photographs of her. We're on [00:23:42] it. were on the case. So, you guys don't [00:23:44] no longer have to slide in her DMs or [00:23:46] hunt her down. I am fully on this and [00:23:49] we'll have more information for you um I [00:23:52] suspect in the coming week. And now [00:23:55] pertaining to what we're looking for. [00:23:57] Please email more tips canowens.com. [00:23:59] Again, guys, we're very small team. So, [00:24:02] I appreciate the emails about have you [00:24:04] seen this? Have you watched that? I [00:24:06] would just please don't send those. [00:24:07] Like, just tag us on TikTok, tag us in [00:24:10] something that you want us to see. do [00:24:11] not clutter our inbox with please watch [00:24:14] this or random things. We really want to [00:24:16] use this to get information uh or [00:24:18] answers to questions that we're asking [00:24:20] on this show. And here are the questions [00:24:22] that we are still looking for answers [00:24:24] to. One, who was it that Erica knew that [00:24:28] was at the Batman Colorado mass [00:24:32] shooting? That theater, remember that [00:24:34] happened um when the Batman movie came [00:24:36] out in Colorado? Erica tweeted and said [00:24:39] that she knew somebody that was in that [00:24:40] theater. Has anybody know who that is? [00:24:42] Has anybody heard anymore? Is there an [00:24:43] interview out there where she discusses [00:24:44] that further? I would like to know more [00:24:46] about that information. Secondly, does [00:24:48] anybody know or remember Erica France [00:24:52] from Ohio? Uh, in doing her biography, [00:24:55] it's almost as though she suddenly just [00:24:57] appears in her high school years in [00:24:59] Arizona. The backstory is that she's [00:25:02] from Ohio until she gets into high [00:25:04] school. Who attended middle school with [00:25:06] Erica in Ohio? If that's you, we want to [00:25:08] hear from you. More tips at candace.com. [00:25:10] Did you attend elementary school with [00:25:11] Erica? If that's you, we would like to [00:25:14] hear from you. You guys in Cincinnati, [00:25:15] Ohio, please check your um yearbooks. [00:25:19] Maybe you didn't know that it was her [00:25:21] because it's a long time ago. Please [00:25:22] email us. Uh also, does anybody remember [00:25:26] her at Lyola Maramount? This is also the [00:25:29] same school that Stacy Sheridan went to [00:25:31] and people who went in that same year as [00:25:34] her say, "I don't remember her." We have [00:25:37] not had a single person that has come [00:25:39] out and said they remember her. Despite [00:25:41] the fact that she is mentioned in a [00:25:43] program, I'm looking for somebody who [00:25:44] says, "Yeah, I took a class with her. [00:25:45] She was a full adult by then. You would [00:25:47] remember this." Oh, I went out with her [00:25:49] for something. I don't know if you [00:25:51] attended school with her at Loyola [00:25:53] Mount. We would like to hear from you. [00:25:55] And again, we will ask for more [00:25:57] information, just to dot our eyes and to [00:25:59] cross our tees, even though I think we [00:26:01] have the information we need. If you [00:26:04] have any information pertaining to Erica [00:26:06] Kirk's whereabouts on September 8th when [00:26:08] she broke her Twitter silence, the 9th [00:26:11] or on the 10th when Charlie was [00:26:14] assassinated because the story goes [00:26:16] turning from Turning Point employees [00:26:18] were told that she got she got the news [00:26:21] when she was with her mom and then she [00:26:24] drove herself back home. [00:26:27] Thus far, nobody where they live [00:26:28] remembers seeing Erica, but she [00:26:30] apparently met Stacy Sheridan and a [00:26:32] couple other people. And then they went [00:26:34] to the airport together. So, it's a it's [00:26:36] a pretty big assassination. The entire [00:26:38] world uh would have been looking out for [00:26:40] her in that moment, especially people [00:26:42] who knew who Charlie Kirk was. They [00:26:43] these neighbors said they knew him. They [00:26:45] knew his wife and knew his kids. And [00:26:46] thus far, nobody remembers seeing Erica [00:26:49] Kirk on the 10th. Maybe you work at the [00:26:52] airport and you saw her board. Um that [00:26:54] would make sense. Yes, I happen to work [00:26:55] at the terminal and I saw them all run [00:26:57] in looking frantic in Scottsdale. I [00:26:59] would like to try to confirm that story [00:27:02] on September 10th. Anyway, we uh will [00:27:06] pause there and we will be right back [00:27:08] after the break. All right, you guys, [00:27:11] Nimi Skincare is the only skincare brand [00:27:13] that I have actually stayed consistent [00:27:14] with. It's what I use. It's what I trust [00:27:16] and it's what my routine is built [00:27:17] around. A lot of people think that [00:27:18] anti-aging is about finding the [00:27:19] strongest product or the newest trend, [00:27:21] but the reality is aging does not happen [00:27:23] overnight. 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I I don't have a a ton of [00:29:09] strengths in other areas. probably I [00:29:11] would say geography is not my greatest [00:29:13] strength, but putting together puzzles [00:29:14] and recognizing anomalies I've always [00:29:16] been very good at. And I right away said [00:29:18] that way too many dudes are wearing [00:29:20] maroon shirts and common sense if you're [00:29:21] going to organize any military [00:29:24] operation, which I believe September [00:29:25] 10th was obviously a military operation [00:29:29] to those of us who are sensible, you're [00:29:31] going to need to know who your guys are. [00:29:32] So yeah, you're going to have certain [00:29:34] people wearing certain colors, certain [00:29:35] hats. And they were like, "This is [00:29:37] crazy. No, this many men really like [00:29:39] maroon." And I was like, I feel like [00:29:42] there's a color of the day here and [00:29:43] everyone who's wearing maroon is [00:29:45] involved. Uh, well, guess what? Epste [00:29:49] the Epstein docks dropped and there was [00:29:51] a mention of military colors of the day. [00:29:54] A Tik Tocker went viral discussing it. [00:29:56] Take a listen. [00:29:58] >> If you don't know, during the Charlie [00:30:01] Kirk assassination, there was a [00:30:03] significant number of young men wearing [00:30:06] maroon shirts. Originally, Candace Owens [00:30:09] was the first person to point this out [00:30:11] and everybody called her crazy. However, [00:30:14] I found proof that she was right. So, [00:30:16] after she made this claim, a lot of [00:30:18] people called her crazy. But then there [00:30:20] was also a good amount of people from [00:30:21] the military that were saying that's [00:30:23] absolutely a thing that the military [00:30:25] does during secret operations in public [00:30:27] areas. They choose a color of the day. [00:30:30] So, I started thinking, right? I was [00:30:31] like, what if I search in the DOJ files [00:30:34] the term color of the day? And what do [00:30:37] you know? I find 40 results of different [00:30:40] FBI briefings talking about a color of [00:30:43] the day and every single one is [00:30:45] unredacted. You can see what the color [00:30:47] of the day was for that day for whatever [00:30:48] military operation was going on. Now, [00:30:50] most of the details for the military [00:30:52] operation is redacted. However, on the [00:30:56] day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the [00:30:59] morning of before his death, they [00:31:02] established a color of the day for a sit [00:31:06] rep, which is just a military um [00:31:08] situation report. [00:31:10] And the color of the day is redacted. [00:31:14] Out of 40 different files mentioning a [00:31:16] color of the day for secret operations, [00:31:19] the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination [00:31:21] is the only one that has a color of the [00:31:24] day redacted. [00:31:27] Like I said, I'm just out here doing [00:31:29] common sense. I noticed also, by the [00:31:31] way, it wasn't just Maroon. I felt like [00:31:32] they were organizing by battalion. Some [00:31:34] people were all like wearing white hats. [00:31:36] Some people were wearing their socks in [00:31:37] a certain way where I was like, never [00:31:39] seen this many people wear their socks [00:31:40] this high before. And if I I'm a person [00:31:43] who likes to organize her pantry. My [00:31:44] pantry in my kitchen is a high point for [00:31:47] me. Every day I go in there, it's so [00:31:49] organized. I organize my seasonings. [00:31:52] Okay, I had to buy a label, like a label [00:31:57] maker, so I could organize my [00:31:58] seasonings. Okay, for those of us who [00:32:00] are that in the weeds on organization, [00:32:02] thinking about how you might organize a [00:32:04] military operation, that seemed pretty [00:32:05] obvious. I just recognize organization, [00:32:08] even when it's supposed to look like [00:32:09] chaos, it's got to be organized. And [00:32:10] that's what was going down on that day. [00:32:12] And I have a folder of the I like call [00:32:14] them like the white hats, the this and [00:32:16] that that was happening on that day. [00:32:17] Very obvious. Now, who knows? Uh he said [00:32:20] he's going through the DOJ files. Who [00:32:22] knows if that particular reference was [00:32:24] pertaining it could be pertaining to any [00:32:26] number of military operations on the [00:32:28] 10th and they could be but covering it [00:32:30] because there was maybe another FBI [00:32:32] operation and military operation that [00:32:34] was taking place uh I don't know in [00:32:37] Canada or overse whatever it is and [00:32:39] people might notice that a lot of people [00:32:41] wore green and so maybe that's the [00:32:43] reason they're blacking it out. I don't [00:32:44] know. What I do know is maroon the [00:32:47] maroon boys were somehow involved. That [00:32:49] seems pretty obvious to me. uh that [00:32:52] there was some coordination happening. [00:32:53] Also, they were all alone, which was [00:32:54] weird. Like, also, whoever wore Maroon [00:32:57] wanted to go to this event alone. They [00:32:58] had no homies with them. So, yeah. [00:33:01] Anyways, moving on. After yesterday's [00:33:03] episode regarding Photogate, Turning [00:33:05] Point issued a statement about how the [00:33:08] wedding photo, which was curiously there [00:33:12] when Charlie uh was hosting his last [00:33:14] show and then was suddenly removed when [00:33:16] Erica was speaking to Glenn Beck in [00:33:17] December. They obviously were they're [00:33:20] always panicked and then they issue a [00:33:21] dumb statement. That's kind of their [00:33:23] move. They never take a deep breath and [00:33:25] think about whether what they're going [00:33:26] to say makes any sense. And the issue [00:33:28] was Erica was like, "This is my first [00:33:30] time." And she's on Glenn Beck. The [00:33:32] exact sentence I think she says is, "Um, [00:33:34] I haven't been here in forever. Sorry if [00:33:36] I keep looking down. This is a note that [00:33:38] he wrote." Okay. How long is forever? [00:33:41] How It sounds like it's been a long time [00:33:43] since you've been in this particular [00:33:44] office and you obviously have not even [00:33:46] seen this desk. Anyway, uh to account [00:33:49] for the now missing photo, they went to [00:33:53] Newsweek. I think the editor at large is [00:33:55] Josh Hammer. They just can't help [00:33:56] themselves. They just want to look [00:33:58] guilty in everything that they do. This [00:34:00] is what they told um this is what they [00:34:02] told Newsweek. A post has gone viral [00:34:04] online that appeared to show Erica Kirk [00:34:06] having moved or or removed a photograph [00:34:08] of her and Charlie Kirk at their [00:34:09] wedding. Well, a Turning Point USA [00:34:11] spokesperson told Newsweek Erica moved [00:34:14] it to a lower shelf when her daughter [00:34:17] asked to see it so that she could hold [00:34:19] and look at the photo. It's still on the [00:34:23] studio shelf. It's just lower down where [00:34:25] her daughter can look at it whenever [00:34:27] she's in there with her mom. [00:34:30] A [00:34:33] there's just always so much emotional [00:34:35] obvious emotional manipulation. And I [00:34:37] don't know how you guys feel, but I feel [00:34:38] like they should have went with the [00:34:42] Andrew Kovette went rogue excuse. I [00:34:44] think it's stronger. I like that. It's [00:34:45] my favorite one. They said do go with [00:34:46] Andrew Kovette went rogue. I love him [00:34:47] being rogue. It's more believable. It [00:34:50] certainly is more believable that Andrew [00:34:52] Kovette went rogue because I'm feeling [00:34:55] now like I got to start like justice for [00:34:56] Gigi. They keep dragging this poor [00:34:59] toddler into every possible alibi [00:35:02] regarding Erica Kirk and I'm just not [00:35:03] going to stand for this much longer. [00:35:04] Okay, we're out here treating Gigi like [00:35:07] Puerto Rican moms treat their daughters. [00:35:09] Okay, Latinos, you know what I'm talking [00:35:11] about. They their sons can do no wrong. [00:35:13] M the daughters, they do a lot of wrong. [00:35:17] That's how I'm feeling. Like Gigi's [00:35:18] getting some treatment here, but I'm not [00:35:19] I'm not cool with. She's always in the [00:35:20] alibi. Remember Gigi kicked Charlie out [00:35:23] of the bed the night before because she [00:35:24] was doing gymnastics. Oh, Gigi wanted to [00:35:28] move that photo to eye level, so they [00:35:29] had to move it. Gigi wanted to go for a [00:35:32] walk. So Erica couldn't have been at [00:35:35] some fort in Wuka because she was with [00:35:37] Gigi. [00:35:39] Leave Gigi alone. Obviously that did not [00:35:42] happen because it makes no sense. No [00:35:45] sense to bring a photo to ground level [00:35:48] in a studio that is not occupied by the [00:35:51] toddler. Was is this her first time [00:35:52] seeing the photo? If she wanted the [00:35:54] photo, if she was like, I want to hug [00:35:56] the photo, you would just give it to [00:35:58] her. You allow her to take it. This is [00:36:00] your home studio. You would say, "Yeah, [00:36:02] take it out of the office because it's [00:36:03] no longer serving us. It's not in the [00:36:04] background. Take it out of the office [00:36:06] and put it in your room. You can have [00:36:07] it. It's not serving anyone. It's [00:36:10] supposed to be design." Why would That's [00:36:12] my granddad behind me. That's a photo of [00:36:15] my granddad. Why would if Lulu, who is [00:36:17] three, came in here and was like, I want [00:36:19] that photo. Why would I be like, okay, [00:36:22] puts it on the floor where my daughter [00:36:24] should not be cuz it's a studio. This is [00:36:26] not a playroom. It's just it's Stop. [00:36:30] Please just stop. I want Turning Point [00:36:32] USA to for once in their lives do the [00:36:35] right thing and pay me a monthly [00:36:37] retainer to consult them on PR. Just say [00:36:42] no. Nope. No. Nope. Because I would have [00:36:46] said to them, I said, "Look, here's what [00:36:47] you're going to do. Blame the [00:36:48] housekeepers. Blame the unknown [00:36:50] housekeepers. You're rich. You've got [00:36:52] money. A lot of money. We're talking [00:36:54] billions from Pierre type money. Just [00:36:57] blame the housekeeper. America. What? [00:36:59] What? We didn't even notice that. We [00:37:01] just had someone in to clean. I am going [00:37:03] to fire the housekeeper. [00:37:06] That's what I would done. Nope. Nobody [00:37:08] pays me. Nobody pays me the big bucks. [00:37:10] And even though they are lying about [00:37:12] Gigi, we can now debunk my earlier [00:37:15] suspicion that Charlie himself moved the [00:37:17] photo because he did not. It is likely [00:37:21] um that he did not. He could not have [00:37:23] moved the photo himself. And the reason [00:37:24] that they're lying is because they want [00:37:27] to protect a person that is truly [00:37:30] amazing. A person who is so terrific, [00:37:32] who is so spectacular that we dare not [00:37:34] even say his name without an adjective. [00:37:37] He is he who must not be named without [00:37:38] an adjective. You know who I'm referring [00:37:40] to? Because um oddly, despite the fact [00:37:43] that this is Charlie's home studio, in [00:37:46] the aftermath of Charlie's [00:37:47] assassination, before Erica got in [00:37:48] there, Mikey began doing media hits from [00:37:50] it. What's he doing at the house? Nobody [00:37:52] knows. What does he do for Charlie? [00:37:54] Nobody knows. How did he become chief of [00:37:56] staff? Nobody knows. So, uh, well, yeah. [00:37:59] Anyway, one of our mommy sleuths did [00:38:01] find Mikey McCoy, the amazing, the [00:38:04] marvelous Mikey on November 8th giving [00:38:07] an interview to Real America's Voice. [00:38:08] And you can see in the corner there is [00:38:10] no photo. Okay, there's no photo. So, [00:38:11] that was it was already moved. So if [00:38:13] Erica was really seeing the notes on his [00:38:15] desk for the first time in December [00:38:17] because she hadn't been in the office in [00:38:18] quote unquote forever as she told Glenn [00:38:20] Beck, the marvelous McCoy could not [00:38:22] relate. He's been there. He's been [00:38:24] sitting at Charlie's desk. And but then [00:38:26] on top of that, and here's where we get [00:38:28] to debunk the idea that Charlie moved [00:38:29] the photo. They were hard launching [00:38:32] Mikey. Remember I told you that Marky [00:38:33] was Mikey was like slated to take over [00:38:36] for Charlie. And they were doing it very [00:38:38] hard and very quickly after Charlie's [00:38:39] assassination. so hard and so quickly [00:38:41] that another sleuth found him on [00:38:43] September 22nd seated in Charlie's chair [00:38:46] at home. Now, this is just 11 days after [00:38:49] Charlie's assassination. And it also [00:38:52] happens to be the same date that Erica [00:38:54] was on that Zoom call telling the [00:38:56] employees to button it up. Get back to [00:38:58] work. There's merge sales, there's hat [00:39:00] sales. It's what Charlie would want. [00:39:01] Charlie is dancing in heaven, but only [00:39:03] if you're at work working hard. You [00:39:06] better work if you want Charlie to dance [00:39:08] in heaven. when she was given that whole [00:39:11] sermon on that exact day, Miley Mikey [00:39:15] the amazing shared a similar message [00:39:17] with Marth Martha McCollum on Fox News. [00:39:19] And you can see just at the end of that [00:39:22] this little screenshot that Mikey, you [00:39:25] see the photos in the background. So I [00:39:27] think [00:39:29] Mikey got ahead of himself. Mikey the [00:39:31] amazing Mikey the Marvelous got a little [00:39:32] ahead of himself and it was like messing [00:39:34] up his vibe and he moved it. That's [00:39:36] probably what happened. He's like, you [00:39:38] know, I can't really vibe out with [00:39:40] Charlie's. He's probably He probably [00:39:42] even put up his own photo. And they [00:39:44] said, "Nah, too hard, too aggressive, [00:39:45] too soon." Anyway, we're only interested [00:39:49] there. There are so many red flags in [00:39:50] the story. We don't need to pursue ones [00:39:52] that potentially are not. And uh yeah, [00:39:56] Mikey, I'm starting to like him. I think [00:39:58] I've been saying these I when you start [00:40:00] using adjectives to describe someone, [00:40:02] the SCOP works. I don't let anybody say [00:40:05] anything bad about Mikey, the amazing [00:40:07] Mikey the wonderful Mikey the [00:40:08] spectacular. I don't I stand I stand the [00:40:12] amazing Mikey McCoy. The question now is [00:40:15] whether or not they're going to keep [00:40:15] gaslighting us and lying to us about [00:40:17] Charlie and Erica. I still feel very [00:40:20] strongly they had a fight on the 9th [00:40:25] and also I feel strongly that they [00:40:26] probably will keep gaslighting us at [00:40:28] least if the Epstein file situation is [00:40:31] any indication because we have been so [00:40:33] aggressively gaslit over the last 6 [00:40:35] months that sometimes we forget how [00:40:37] audacious and how absurd and how [00:40:39] positively traumatizing the manner in [00:40:40] which our government just routinely lies [00:40:42] to us actually is regarding the Epstein [00:40:45] files. We should probably uh be in the [00:40:47] streets revoling. This is we're probably [00:40:49] due for like a revolution or something. [00:40:52] It's so bad that Republicans are sharing [00:40:57] Democratic tips. It's actually kind of [00:40:58] bringing us together because I think we [00:41:00] all just hate the elites so much and the [00:41:03] quoteunquote elites, really the occult [00:41:05] and the ball worshippers. And I'm [00:41:07] clearly not a Democrat. I'm actually not [00:41:09] even a Republican. I retired from [00:41:10] politics the day they took out Charlie [00:41:11] Kirk and lied to us about it. But this [00:41:14] Democratic representative Jared [00:41:16] Mascowitz did a really good job [00:41:19] recapping exactly what the Trump [00:41:23] administration put us through with the [00:41:25] Epstein files. They gaslighting his own [00:41:27] supporters after insisting that day one [00:41:31] they were going to give us access. They [00:41:32] were going to tell us the truth. They [00:41:34] were going to be the most transparent [00:41:35] administration ever. Holding of the [00:41:37] binders. Take it away Jared Moscowitz. [00:41:41] It's been 12 months since you gave [00:41:43] Republican influencers part one of the [00:41:45] Epstein files. You said the list was on [00:41:47] your desk. Then a memo came out and said [00:41:49] that there was no list. Phase two of the [00:41:50] binders never happened. The president of [00:41:52] United States says the Epstein thing is [00:41:54] a hoax. He blasts his own base for [00:41:56] wanting the release of the files. He [00:41:57] blamed Barack Obama. Republicans voted [00:42:00] against the release of the files in the [00:42:01] rules committee. Then they refused to [00:42:03] even return to the rules committee until [00:42:05] they could be protected from future [00:42:07] votes on the release. Speaker Johnson [00:42:09] sends Congress home a day early before [00:42:12] break. They sent the deputy attorney [00:42:14] general to meet with Maxwell. She says [00:42:16] something favorable about the president. [00:42:17] Miraculously, she gets transferred to a [00:42:19] minimum security facility. No one can [00:42:22] explain why. Miraculously, the leaks to [00:42:24] the Wall Street Journal stop. We come [00:42:26] back from break. We have the Massie [00:42:28] discharge petition. Republicans drop a [00:42:30] rule, a nonbinding resolution trying to [00:42:33] kill the Massie discharge petition. The [00:42:35] White House says passing the Massie [00:42:36] discharge petition is a hostile act. [00:42:39] Trying to stop the necessary 218 [00:42:41] signatures, according to Republican [00:42:43] members that signed it, the White House [00:42:44] brought them into the situation room. [00:42:46] You know, the place where the president [00:42:47] goes for time of war, promising things [00:42:50] like appropriations or maybe even to [00:42:51] primary them. People in the room say you [00:42:53] were there. It didn't work. We get the [00:42:55] 218 signatures. We eventually pass the [00:42:58] Massie petition. You guys didn't release [00:43:00] the files. You were forced by the by [00:43:03] Congress every member of the House [00:43:05] except one and the entire Senate. The [00:43:08] reason the president signed it is [00:43:09] because it was a veto proof majority. We [00:43:12] can't agree on anything. And yet the [00:43:15] entire house but one member and the [00:43:17] whole Senate forced the administration [00:43:19] to release the files. Cash Patel under [00:43:21] oath said Sen to Senator Kennedy, the [00:43:23] FBI is not in possession of any credible [00:43:25] evidence that Epstein trafficked girls [00:43:27] to anyone but himself. We know now [00:43:30] that's not true. According to documents, [00:43:32] Epstein had a worldwide sex trafficking [00:43:34] ring. Girls from Poland, Czechoslovakia, [00:43:36] Russia, Paris, modeling agencies sending [00:43:38] him girls. He even had a relationship [00:43:40] with a summer camp where he groomed [00:43:42] girls at a picnic table. Glain Maxwell [00:43:44] says 29 Epstein associates cut secret [00:43:46] DOJ deals. Turns out there is a list. [00:43:49] Six names readily available if you [00:43:50] unredact them. Co-conspirators named, [00:43:53] but we got them when you unredact them. [00:43:55] Maxwell recently tells a house oversight [00:43:57] committee that she wants clemency to re [00:43:59] release more names. Cash Patel under o [00:44:01] said Trump's name appears less than a [00:44:03] hundred times in the files. We now know [00:44:04] that's not true. Trump's name appears [00:44:06] more times in the Epstein files than [00:44:09] God's name appears in the book about [00:44:11] God. Okay, by the way, this is the Trump [00:44:13] Bible. Move over King James. Trump's [00:44:16] name also appears more times in the [00:44:17] Epstein file than Harry Potter's name [00:44:19] appears in the seven books about Harry [00:44:22] Potter. Lutnik says that in 2008 he went [00:44:25] to Epstein's home, says he had a massage [00:44:26] table in the living room, but Epstein [00:44:28] said he got one every day, that it was [00:44:30] the right type of massage. He and his [00:44:31] wife decide to leave and say they'll [00:44:33] never be in a room with him again. [00:44:35] Howard then says, "I'm sure the Epstein [00:44:36] stuff is all on video. He was the [00:44:38] greatest black mailer of all time." [00:44:40] Well, how would Howard know that? But [00:44:43] now the files are public. And in 2012, [00:44:45] we find out that he and his family are [00:44:46] on Epstein Island after after after [00:44:50] Epstein plead guilty to state charges. [00:44:53] I'm from Florida. I take my family to [00:44:55] Disney World, not to Epstein Island. [00:44:58] There are documents in the files that [00:44:59] dispute the president's claim that he [00:45:01] kicked Epstein out of his club. [00:45:02] Allegedly, the president said Epstein [00:45:04] that he asked Epstein to leave. [00:45:05] Supported now that that's disputed [00:45:07] though by statements uh from the manager [00:45:10] of the club. Now, Madam Attorney [00:45:12] General, I have like 25 seconds left. [00:45:13] So, because I'm curious, uh, and I I [00:45:17] just I'd like to see you flip to the [00:45:18] Jared Moscowitz section of the binder. [00:45:21] I'm interested to see what staff [00:45:22] provided on the on the oppo on me. And [00:45:25] because we're in the Olympics, I'm going [00:45:26] to give it a grade. I just want to see [00:45:28] how how [laughter] how good it is. So, [00:45:30] give me your best one. [00:45:31] >> So, first of all, nothing is funny about [00:45:34] mocking the Bible and holding up a [00:45:36] Bible. That's what you did. You made a [00:45:38] joke and I find it. That's all I have to [00:45:41] say. [00:45:41] >> I want it from the burn book. I want it [00:45:43] from the burnber book which is the best [00:45:44] one. What you got? [00:45:47] >> That's all she had to say to him. Shame. [00:45:49] Shame. Shame on you for telling the [00:45:52] truth about what we have put the public [00:45:54] through what we have put our supporters [00:45:56] to through the people that believed in [00:45:57] us who wanted to get to the answers who [00:45:59] you know took us to this line because we [00:46:02] wanted to see how power works. Instead, [00:46:03] we're protecting people that are in the [00:46:04] files. Howard Lutnik's practically [00:46:06] running uh Trump's administration. Uh BB [00:46:09] Netanyahu. I mean, Howard Lutner's all [00:46:11] over the world with Jared Kushner. He's [00:46:13] just been protecting his homies and [00:46:16] she's got shame on you because you [00:46:19] didn't actually he did not mock the [00:46:21] Bible in any way. Um, that's what she's [00:46:24] got. [00:46:26] And she's got a little bit more, too, by [00:46:28] the way, cuz I guess she thought this [00:46:30] was going to work. And I actually [00:46:32] appreciate this response, this next [00:46:33] response from Pam Bondi, her perspective [00:46:35] on it, because I think it's honest. I [00:46:38] appreciate it because it's honest. Take [00:46:40] a listen. [00:46:41] >> They are talking about Epstein today. [00:46:44] This has been around since the Obama [00:46:46] administration. This administration [00:46:50] released over 3 million pages of [00:46:53] documents. Over three million. And [00:46:55] Donald Trump signed that law to release [00:46:59] all of those documents. He is the most [00:47:02] transparent president in the nation's [00:47:05] history. And none of them none of them [00:47:09] asked Merrick Garland over the last four [00:47:12] years one word about Jeffrey Epstein. [00:47:17] How ironic is that? You know why? [00:47:20] Because Donald Trump the Dow the Dow [00:47:24] right now is over the Dow is over [00:47:27] $50,000. I don't know why you're [00:47:29] laughing. You're a great stock trader as [00:47:31] I hear Raskin. The Dow is over 50,000 [00:47:36] right now. The S&P at almost 7,000 [00:47:40] and the NASDAQ smashing records. [00:47:43] Americans 401ks and retirement savings [00:47:47] are booming. That's what we should be [00:47:49] talking about. We should be talking [00:47:51] about making Americans safe. We should [00:47:55] be talking about what does a Dow have to [00:47:56] do with anything? That's what they just [00:47:58] asked. Are you kidding? [00:48:03] It's simply amazing. It's as amazing as [00:48:05] Mikey McCoy, right? She's just out there [00:48:09] like, "What is what? Let them have cake. [00:48:11] Like, what is wrong with you guys?" [00:48:13] Okay. Okay. We We We're guilty. Guilty [00:48:17] is charged. Yeah. Epstein's trafficking. [00:48:20] It's a whole network. Everyone at the [00:48:21] top is kind of a monster. Uh yeah, [00:48:24] they've been trafficking children, [00:48:26] harming children. Uh there's all this [00:48:28] ball worship. referring to you guys as [00:48:30] Goyam and increasing your taxes, making [00:48:34] things more dangerous, stealing from [00:48:36] you. Effectively, money has gone [00:48:37] missing. But have you checked your [00:48:41] 401ks? [00:48:43] Guys, gas is down 10 cents a gallon. Why [00:48:47] do you care if we're harming children on [00:48:51] islands? Why do you care so much? Are [00:48:52] you good? That's what we should be [00:48:55] talking about here. Gas. Yep. You can [00:48:58] get petrol now. And it's like, you know, [00:49:00] 10 cents cheaper than it was during the [00:49:02] Obama era. What's wrong with you guys? [00:49:04] How how much more do you need to be [00:49:06] distracted so that we can go on [00:49:09] worshiping Satan? I just don't [00:49:11] understand. Please, let's talk about the [00:49:13] Dao. Incredible. That's where we're at [00:49:16] right now, guys. Up is down, down is up. [00:49:19] Like I said, we are pretty much due for [00:49:21] a revolution. I guess the empire, what's [00:49:23] it's supposed to be every 250 years [00:49:24] before it crashes and burns, and it [00:49:26] seems like we're doing that. I recommend [00:49:28] you pull your children out of these [00:49:30] schools. Um, very clear that they are [00:49:32] everywhere and they are a cult of [00:49:34] military. They are dangerous people. You [00:49:36] don't want to deal with psychopaths uh [00:49:38] that have this sort of a conscience when [00:49:40] you're talking about harming children [00:49:41] that they genuinely she does not compute [00:49:43] why they don't care about Dow. She [00:49:44] doesn't even compute it. She's like, [00:49:45] "What do you mean? What do I mean? What [00:49:48] do you mean? What do I mean?" [00:49:51] Yeah, you don't want to hand your kids [00:49:52] over to those to people like that. [00:49:54] Anyway, uh so much more that we will be [00:49:56] uncovering and always interested to see [00:49:58] with that same energy. Are they going to [00:50:00] continue to gaslight us about Erica [00:50:03] Kirk? Are they going to continue to do [00:50:05] the thing and refer to her as a widow [00:50:07] who's never done anything wrong? [00:50:09] Some purity test. How dare you do this? [00:50:11] How dare you destroy the empire of [00:50:13] Turning Point USA? It's all Charlie was. [00:50:14] That's all he was. He got up every day [00:50:16] and this is what he wanted to build. He [00:50:18] was not a person outside of this. How [00:50:19] dare you even question the very [00:50:21] questionable things. Have you seen gas [00:50:24] prices lately? [00:50:26] You have questions about Erica Kirk's [00:50:27] background. Have you seen the Dow? Have [00:50:32] you even opened your 401k? [00:50:34] What's wrong with you? You're all [00:50:35] monsters. [00:50:37] Anyway, speaking of Turning Point USA, I [00:50:38] got a very funny story about how uh as a [00:50:41] a part of how they wanted to get back at [00:50:43] me. Apparently, Alex Clark demanded [00:50:46] demanded that Dylan call my sponsors, [00:50:50] Paleo Valley, one of my our show [00:50:51] sponsors. And we didn't need to hear [00:50:53] this from our sponsors. We heard this [00:50:54] from people that were fired from JP USA [00:50:56] and demanded that they decide they pick [00:50:59] me or Alex Clark because I had gone [00:51:03] after her for dressing up in boots and [00:51:06] standing over the memorial site of [00:51:09] Charlie to pose for what was it? The [00:51:12] Washington Post, whatever it was. I [00:51:13] thought that was weird. It just it [00:51:15] didn't feel right to me and she was [00:51:18] upset about that and I thought that was [00:51:19] very funny. Anyways, this feels like a [00:51:21] really good time to jump to ads. 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So, even [00:53:47] though we will be off air next week, we [00:53:48] will obviously continue book club. Great [00:53:51] time to sign up, guys. Jumping into a [00:53:52] new book, The Secret Founding of [00:53:54] America. Yes, I will have to read it [00:53:56] every single time. I don't know why I [00:53:57] have this blank blank spot where I just [00:53:59] can't remember. Blank slate. I can't [00:54:01] remember titles. It's weird. It's like [00:54:03] my kryptonite. Nicholas Haggger. Oh, [00:54:05] it's up. Thank you. Just do that next [00:54:06] time. We have Nicholas Hagger. We're [00:54:10] just starting this. We're just going to [00:54:11] do an intro, get into the first three [00:54:14] chapters. Very excited. The real story [00:54:15] of Freemasons, Puritans, and the battle [00:54:17] for the new world. Not what you were [00:54:19] told, guys. That whole story about the [00:54:22] founding of America. The British are [00:54:23] coming. The British are coming. Not so [00:54:26] much. Sorry to tell you. All right, [00:54:27] we'll get into some of your comments. [00:54:29] I'm going to miss you, but again, don't [00:54:31] forget to email us more tips can.com if [00:54:33] you can answer any of those questions. [00:54:35] Please do not send us random thoughts [00:54:36] and like your favorite song. We're very [00:54:38] small team, but if you got a tip, an [00:54:41] actual tip, please give it to us. Um, [00:54:43] getting into some of your comments from [00:54:45] last episode or I'm sorry, the top [00:54:47] comment from last episode was from [00:54:48] Aaliyah. She wrote, "I don't know about [00:54:50] anyone else, but if my husband was [00:54:51] assassinated and I did not sleep beside [00:54:53] him on the last night that he was alive, [00:54:56] I would be absolutely shattered." Um, [00:54:59] yeah, but have you thought about the [00:55:00] merch sales? [00:55:02] What's wrong with that person? Oh, what? [00:55:04] Why did she even write that comment? [00:55:06] That was a terrible comment. Have you [00:55:07] thought about the t-shirts that you'll [00:55:08] sell? No. Clearly, she didn't think [00:55:10] about t-shirts she would sell when she [00:55:11] wrote that comment. Be better. Um, we'll [00:55:15] get into some of your comments for [00:55:16] today's episode. Reminder, we will be [00:55:17] dark next week, so we will not see you [00:55:19] until Monday the 23rd. Comments from [00:55:22] today's episode. Jess writes, "How about [00:55:23] this? We pray that in 2028 we see an [00:55:26] Owens and Carol or Coleman ticket. One [00:55:28] can dream, Candace Goax, Crisis King." [00:55:31] Not, it won't be Owens. I'll tell you [00:55:32] that for free. It will not be Owens. I [00:55:34] just think there's nothing authentic and [00:55:37] real in DC. The reason why I get along [00:55:39] with these people so well, Carol and [00:55:40] Coleman, is probably because they're not [00:55:42] in DC and they're real people with real [00:55:44] lives. I mean, does Coleman have like [00:55:46] eight children? I think he actually has [00:55:48] eight kids. I'm not even making that up. [00:55:50] Baron Coleman I Roar Z50 writes, "Canis, [00:55:53] I follow your book club only and I am [00:55:55] buying and reading the books that you [00:55:56] suggest. I think that you should add the [00:55:58] book The Tavistock Institute." Stop. [00:56:00] Stop that. Yes, I want to read every [00:56:03] book. That's the problem. I know I [00:56:04] already know about Tavistock. I already [00:56:05] know about the Beatles thing. The entire [00:56:08] decade of the 60s was one big scup. But [00:56:10] it's enough. It's enough. I think that [00:56:12] we started with chaos and then I [00:56:15] encourage people to like if you want to [00:56:16] go down a darker hole on this, you [00:56:18] should read this and that. And if you [00:56:19] tell me about this book, then I'm going [00:56:20] to be the one that goes down the dark [00:56:21] hole. And I'm already going down so many [00:56:23] rabbit holes. So I'm fine, you got me. [00:56:25] I'll read it. I know how they social [00:56:27] engineer the masses and I know what [00:56:28] Tavistock Institute was. And it's all [00:56:31] very real. It's all social engineering. [00:56:32] even making us watch an assassination. [00:56:36] That's part of how they know we're going [00:56:37] to feel and how they they can get they [00:56:39] can all then get us to behave in a [00:56:41] certain way. That's like 911. You watch [00:56:43] it and then they're like, "We're all in [00:56:44] this together. We've all experienced [00:56:46] this trauma together. We're a family." [00:56:48] That's that Erica stuff to Turning Point [00:56:50] USA. We're a family now. And they can [00:56:53] just engineer people to do things um [00:56:56] based off of their emotions, their like [00:56:57] raw emotions in them in those moments. [00:57:00] So, it is a tried andrude uh [00:57:02] methodology. Tried and true methodology, [00:57:04] pardon. Next, we have Connor Finn [00:57:07] writes, "Thanks for selecting my comment [00:57:08] yesterday, Skylar. Making Candace laugh [00:57:10] was priceless. Go on and buy yourself [00:57:13] something nice." Thank you for that, [00:57:15] Connor. I Yeah, I was just trying to be [00:57:18] cool yesterday. Mary Everett writes, [00:57:19] "When someone leaked the info about the [00:57:22] bullets being inscribed with trans stuff [00:57:24] to Steven Crowder the day after the [00:57:25] 10th, do you think that he was just a [00:57:27] useful idiot or do you think he knew he [00:57:28] was shoveling out beds slop?" I think he [00:57:30] knew he was shoveling out beds. You also [00:57:32] recall that he was the person who after [00:57:35] the Nashville shooting magically got [00:57:37] information and got the notebook and [00:57:39] that was another trans shooting. So, it [00:57:41] just keeps falling onto Steven Crowder's [00:57:43] lap in the same way that TMZ just kind [00:57:45] of gets these things and you wonder, [00:57:47] okay, I just, like I said, I'm just here [00:57:49] to recognize patterns and I I do not [00:57:52] think that that was um an accident at [00:57:54] all. Want to glorify God rights. I can't [00:57:55] help but wonder has there ever been a [00:57:57] death investigation in history where the [00:57:58] spouse lied once about the key details [00:58:01] of her husband's death, much less many [00:58:03] times, and was not at the very least [00:58:05] considered a person of interest or [00:58:06] suspect. Zero reason to lie. I agree [00:58:09] with you. But we are team common sense [00:58:11] and yeah, it's like I said, it's just [00:58:13] time for them to bring her in. There's [00:58:14] there's just so much smoke here. It's [00:58:16] crazy. And the stories are adjusting and [00:58:18] changing and they've got crisis PR team [00:58:20] and they're like, you know, Andrew [00:58:21] Kovette did it. GG did it. Poor Gigi. [00:58:23] Like, what's happening here? [00:58:26] And by the way, still nobody, not even [00:58:28] on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you [00:58:30] would think I would be like number one [00:58:33] they'd reach out to. They'd be like, [00:58:34] "Her inbox, the tips. I've got the [00:58:36] names, the people who said this person [00:58:38] lied, and here's where it was." No, [00:58:40] they're not interested. They are just [00:58:42] not interested. They got their guy. They [00:58:45] have got their guy, and it is Tyler [00:58:46] Robinson with not a shred of evidence. [00:58:48] Just they're they're the ones really [00:58:50] going off of vibes in a dream, if we're [00:58:52] being honest. US flag pole writes, "In [00:58:54] Jesus's name, I command the truth to [00:58:55] come forth now. May there be no defense [00:58:57] that stands regarding Charlie's death [00:58:59] starting now. All God's people say, [00:59:00] amen." Amen. Emiline Irish writes just [00:59:03] to let you know you are a true [00:59:04] inspiration. Your voice and messages all [00:59:05] around the globe. I have been following [00:59:06] you for ages. Keep up the good fight. [00:59:08] Sending prayers, strength, and love from [00:59:10] rural Ireland. You should visit. I would [00:59:12] love to go to Ireland. I would. My [00:59:14] husband was like, he's like, "Why do you [00:59:15] guys Why do Americans have such like a [00:59:17] romantic idea of Ireland?" I'm like, "I [00:59:18] don't know. Same reason that we have a [00:59:20] romantic idea of England. That's why I [00:59:21] married you. You guys have beef. Is it [00:59:23] still going on? Ireland? Northern [00:59:26] Ireland? I don't know. I'm not I'm not [00:59:27] getting in it. I love Ireland." Uh, [00:59:30] Natty Nicole writes, "I am sick here." I [00:59:33] was thinking that I knew the full story [00:59:35] already, but pictures, you have got to [00:59:38] be kidding me. M. Well, someone will [00:59:41] explain it online. It'll be a [00:59:43] spokesperson will reach out to Newsweek [00:59:45] and they will say, "Oh, like, you know, [00:59:47] Gigi wanted the pictures. [00:59:50] Gigi needed I don't know, she wasn't [00:59:52] here yet, but it'll be some weird thing [00:59:54] about Gigi or Andrew Kovette. Those are [00:59:56] their their two preferred methods of [00:59:58] shoveling BS to us. It seems and dear [01:00:03] Libby writes regarding me saying, she's [01:00:06] quoting me, "I don't know what's wrong [01:00:07] with me." I know it. I really, but I did [01:00:10] it. I He was so clear. Like I sat there [01:00:12] and I watched Baron Coleman. He was so [01:00:13] clear. He said, "Do not, again, I'm [01:00:15] going to say, do not reach out to [01:00:17] Jillian." And I was like, [01:00:21] "What's wrong with me?" Seriously, I was [01:00:22] like, "My mom is so correct. when I was [01:00:24] a kid. I'm hard-headed. I am so [01:00:26] hard-headed, man. And I want to be [01:00:28] better. And I'm going to be better when [01:00:29] I come back. [01:00:32] Just kidding. We'll see you guys Monday [01:00:34] the 23rd. [01:00:38] [music]
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