Are We Being Herded Into World War 3?

[00:00:00] Do you think we are being herded into [00:00:02] World War II? [00:00:03] >> One of the techniques of keeping people [00:00:06] confused is overloading them. [00:00:07] >> I think we are so fragile right now as a [00:00:10] country. [00:00:11] >> Our cyber security and our power system [00:00:13] has not been upgraded to a great extent [00:00:15] for the last 15 years. [00:00:17] >> It's like we're two different countries. [00:00:20] >> It's like we're a schizophrenic country. [00:00:21] >> When you look at everything going on, [00:00:24] the outlook does not look good. [00:00:26] >> All right, Michael. We're getting ready [00:00:27] to start the big interview here, but we [00:00:30] have this we have this segment we do [00:00:31] before the big interview called the hot [00:00:34] question. So, here we go. In World War [00:00:37] II, the trigger was visible. September [00:00:40] 1st, 1939, and the world had a line you [00:00:44] could point to. Today, there are, [00:00:47] [clears throat] excuse me, today there [00:00:48] may never be a single invasion moment [00:00:51] because everything is being weaponized [00:00:53] at once. narratives, markets, [00:00:55] technology, supply chains, and domestic [00:00:58] division with psychological warfare [00:01:01] coming from outside and from within. [00:01:05] [clears throat] [00:01:06] Excuse me. So, here's the question. Are [00:01:09] we watching the modern version of the [00:01:11] 1930s where pressure campaigns and [00:01:14] propaganda set the conditions until a [00:01:16] major war becomes unavoidable? [snorts] [00:01:19] And if so, what are the clearest World [00:01:21] War II era parallels? you see playing [00:01:24] out in real time right now? [00:01:26] >> Wow, [00:01:27] that's that's quite the question. Um, [00:01:31] I'm actually going to take it back a [00:01:34] war. [00:01:34] >> Okay. [00:01:35] >> Uh, before World War I, [00:01:38] >> historial historians would say the world [00:01:41] was a tinder box. It was ready to go, [00:01:44] >> right? And then you had the [00:01:45] assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand [00:01:48] that kind of kicked everything off, [00:01:49] right? [00:01:51] even more than in 1939. 1939 Hitler [00:01:54] invaded Poland and people were on edge. [00:01:58] But in World War I, even more than that, [00:02:00] there was more going on that the whole [00:02:02] world was on edge, right? And ready to [00:02:05] go. [00:02:06] I frequently when I'm talking to my [00:02:08] wife, I'm saying, you know, the world [00:02:10] right now is a tinder box. Everybody is [00:02:12] on the edge of their seat waiting to see [00:02:14] what's going to happen. Mhm. [00:02:16] >> I see massive parallels to before World [00:02:19] War I. I think we are more of a [00:02:23] tinderbox than we were before World War [00:02:25] II. [00:02:26] World War II, [00:02:28] >> there was still a possibility for [00:02:31] diplomacy and some actions that could [00:02:34] have been taken that may have forstalled [00:02:37] a world war. [00:02:39] World War I, everybody was so ready to [00:02:41] jump in that it was almost a foregone [00:02:44] conclusion. So, having said that, [00:02:48] yeah, I see a lot of parallels right [00:02:50] now. Um, information is a huge area of [00:02:54] warfare. Um, the way information is [00:02:58] disseminated, how it's disseminated, who [00:03:00] it's disseminated to is pitting people [00:03:04] against each other. In the US, I think [00:03:06] we are more divided than we've ever [00:03:08] been. It's us versus them and we talk at [00:03:12] each other instead of with each other. [00:03:15] I think internationally [00:03:18] um we are [00:03:21] not just us. Everybody is starting to [00:03:24] position. And for those of us who are a [00:03:27] little bit older and played the game of [00:03:28] risk where you used to like put things [00:03:31] on a board and figure out where you're [00:03:33] going to get power and get ready, I'm [00:03:36] seeing all of the pieces moving around [00:03:41] and it scares me. [00:03:42] >> What What exactly are you seeing as far [00:03:45] as is pieces moving around in in [00:03:48] strategic locations? I mean, we've we've [00:03:50] been talking about Greenland, we've been [00:03:51] talking about Panama. Yep. China, Taiwan [00:03:54] situation, Russia, Ukraine, right [00:03:56] >> now Venezuela, right? I don't know if [00:03:58] that's a strategic location other than [00:04:00] oil. [00:04:02] >> I think it's it's strategic not only for [00:04:04] oil. A lot of people are saying, "Hey, [00:04:06] it's oil, right?" And it is [00:04:08] >> largest oil reserves in the world, [00:04:10] right? [00:04:10] >> It's also a positioning maneuver. It's [00:04:13] positioning the US as we can do what we [00:04:17] want, where we want, when we want, [00:04:19] >> and we have power. And it's kind of [00:04:20] putting everybody else on notice. I [00:04:23] mean, I don't feel like that's a new [00:04:24] thing. [00:04:25] >> What's that? [00:04:25] >> I don't feel like that's a new thing. [00:04:27] >> It's not, but it's never been so overt. [00:04:31] We're more in the open with it now. I [00:04:33] think before we were a little more [00:04:34] subtle. [00:04:35] >> When When is before [00:04:37] World War I? Are we talking [00:04:39] >> No, no. Actually, I would say Yeah. It's [00:04:42] funny because in in my book I detail a [00:04:44] number of countries that we've done this [00:04:46] to. [00:04:48] >> Um, and it's not new. We [00:04:52] we started, you know, back in the [00:04:54] SpanishAmerican War and then in Haiti [00:04:57] and in Nicaragua and in Honduras. You [00:05:00] know, we've been doing this for a while. [00:05:02] I feel like now it it's being because of [00:05:06] information. The internet is great for [00:05:09] getting information out, but it's also [00:05:11] great for getting selective information [00:05:14] out, if you will. [00:05:16] right now, the way that things are [00:05:18] happening, more people are aware of [00:05:21] what's happening and we have to be [00:05:24] careful about the way it's being spun in [00:05:26] the narrative. When we, for example, we [00:05:29] helped uh Panama secede from Colombia, [00:05:34] right? Mhm. Yeah. Not Colombia. Yeah. [00:05:39] Um, [00:05:41] when we did that, how many people know? [00:05:43] Right now, if you talk to people and [00:05:44] say, "Well, Panama's always been a [00:05:46] country, right?" No, it hasn't. We [00:05:49] helped them declare independence and [00:05:52] then we put warships off of the east and [00:05:53] west coast to make sure that they [00:05:55] maintained it because we wanted control [00:05:57] of the whole canal area. [00:05:59] >> That information is lost, but and even [00:06:02] at the time, not that many people knew [00:06:04] it unless you read it in a newspaper [00:06:06] somewhere. Now we're live casting [00:06:10] from Venezuela. We're live casting from [00:06:13] Ukraine. We're live casting from Gaza. [00:06:17] You know, the information is out there [00:06:20] so fast and unfiltered. [00:06:23] And then you've got people coming in and [00:06:25] trying to filter it and spin to a [00:06:27] narrative, right? I think this creates a [00:06:31] whole different battleground, if you [00:06:34] will. Um [00:06:37] because now [00:06:39] people can't just trust their government [00:06:40] to say, "Well, you guys have the [00:06:42] information. I'll trust you're doing the [00:06:44] right thing." They're looking at, "Hey, [00:06:46] I just saw this on the news. What are [00:06:48] you doing?" [00:06:50] Does that make sense? [00:06:51] >> Yeah, it makes perfect sense. [00:06:53] [clears throat] They don't know how to [00:06:54] deal with it. [00:06:54] >> They They don't. And quite honestly, um [00:06:59] you and I have seen things in warfare, [00:07:01] you more than I. [00:07:03] We're broadcasting it into people's [00:07:06] living rooms now. [00:07:07] >> Mhm. [00:07:08] >> And I I think we're we're causing PTSD [00:07:12] in the human population from seeing [00:07:15] this. [00:07:17] And that has its own set of issues and [00:07:20] its own set of consequences. [00:07:59] What other parallels are you seeing? [00:08:06] >> Was the country this div I mean, was the [00:08:08] country this divided before World War I? [00:08:11] Was that is that a parallel? [00:08:12] >> I [00:08:15] not as much. And now we're going to I'm [00:08:17] going to skip all over. [00:08:19] >> Not as much not as divided as much as in [00:08:21] World War I as it was prior to World War [00:08:23] II. [00:08:25] Um, remember right before we entered [00:08:28] World War II, before uh Pearl Harbor, [00:08:33] we were very divided on whether or not [00:08:34] we should enter the war. A lot of people [00:08:36] were isolationist and like, hey, let's [00:08:38] just stay out of it, not our war, right? [00:08:40] Other people were, no, we have to go [00:08:42] help. Uh, Pearl Harbor kind of [00:08:45] galvanized everyone together under one [00:08:48] opinion that, hey, we got to go. We were [00:08:50] attacked. We're going right for all the [00:08:54] right reasons. [00:08:56] I see I haven't seen though. I think we [00:09:00] are more divided right now than I have [00:09:02] seen or that I have noticed in history. [00:09:07] Um we're very partisan now. [00:09:10] >> Mhm. I mean I look we're going to get [00:09:13] deep into some things here. I kind of [00:09:16] trace that back personally. I trace it [00:09:19] back to mid80s. [00:09:22] Uh N. Gingrich [00:09:24] was one of the first ones in our [00:09:26] Congress that started looking at [00:09:28] political parties as warfare [00:09:31] and started saying you know we have to [00:09:33] treat this as warfare right we have to [00:09:35] attack the enemy we have to overcome [00:09:38] right [00:09:40] and he wasn't he didn't have u a [00:09:43] monopoly on that but that before that [00:09:46] even though there were arguments in [00:09:48] Congress it seemed that people were more [00:09:50] willing to negotiate and say we both [00:09:54] agree on the same outcome. We just agree [00:09:58] on how disagree on how we should get [00:10:00] there. [00:10:02] Today, [00:10:03] I don't see that willingness. [00:10:06] I see it as more as those people are bad [00:10:10] >> and we hate them and we don't want to [00:10:12] believe anything they say and we're [00:10:14] good. And then four years later it's [00:10:17] like, well, those people are bad and we [00:10:20] don't agree with them, right? And we try [00:10:22] and undo [00:10:23] everything instead of building on what [00:10:26] has happened before. Every four years, [00:10:28] we try and undo what they did. [00:10:30] >> Right? And you you can't [clears throat] [00:10:32] do that and move forward. I mean, think [00:10:34] about it in business. How would a [00:10:36] business do that where every time you [00:10:38] changed a a department head? [00:10:40] >> No. It' be destroyed. [00:10:41] >> They wanted to come in. Yeah. I'm going [00:10:42] to undo everything they did. I mean, [00:10:44] we're we're I mean, even we're talking [00:10:47] about people moving chess pieces on the [00:10:50] board all over the world, you know, and [00:10:52] I mean, we just saw with Afghanistan. I [00:10:55] mean, China's a huge threat. We gave up [00:10:57] Bram, super strategic location for a [00:11:01] potential conflict with China [00:11:03] >> and we [ __ ] gave it up. [00:11:05] >> And now we got this guy in, he wants it [00:11:08] back, you know, and it's it's I just [00:11:11] it's like we're two separate. It's like [00:11:14] we're two [00:11:16] It's like we're two different countries. [00:11:18] So, it is like we're a schizophrenic [00:11:20] country. [00:11:21] >> It is. It is. And it it's gotten to the [00:11:24] point I love debating things with [00:11:26] people. [00:11:28] And I am the consumate devil's advocate. [00:11:32] >> Whatever you're going to tell me, I'm [00:11:34] going to argue the other point. I may [00:11:36] not believe the other point, but I want [00:11:39] to argue it if nothing else than to just [00:11:41] sharpen my own understanding. Like I [00:11:43] want to hear I I want to learn. I want [00:11:45] to hear what have you got. [00:11:47] >> Mhm. [00:11:47] >> Right. Because that helps me understand. [00:11:51] I don't see a lot of that happening [00:11:53] today. A lot of it is just [00:11:56] as soon as you hear something you don't [00:11:58] like, you just say, "I don't believe [00:12:00] that. Fake news, conspiracy theory, [00:12:04] not true. not even gonna consider it. [00:12:08] Well, what if it's not not true? You've [00:12:12] got to at least consider it and think [00:12:14] about it. And if there's one thing I [00:12:17] think I've learned in life is [00:12:19] perspective is everything. [00:12:22] I've sat on a number of juries in my [00:12:25] life and it's fascinating where the [00:12:29] prosecution comes in and they give their [00:12:30] opening statement and you're thinking, [00:12:33] "Oh, this this person's guilty of sin. [00:12:36] >> There's no way, right? We can just stop [00:12:39] the trial right now. He's guilty." And [00:12:42] then the defense attorney comes in and [00:12:43] tells you the same thing, but using [00:12:45] different words. You're like, "Oh, he's [00:12:47] absolutely innocent. [00:12:49] It's all how you spin it." and how you [00:12:52] approach it, which a large part of my [00:12:54] book is about. It's about [00:12:57] how Americans live in information [00:12:59] bubbles, [00:13:00] >> right? We don't see all of the [00:13:02] information and then we make choices on [00:13:05] partial information [00:13:07] and that leads to bad choices. [00:13:09] >> I don't even know if it's possible to [00:13:10] get all the information anymore with the [00:13:12] way the algorithms are set up and put [00:13:14] you in a cage, right? It would be I mean [00:13:16] I I just I don't even know if it's a [00:13:18] possibility. [00:13:19] >> I agree. [00:13:21] [clears throat] And then you have to [00:13:21] sift through all the [ __ ] whether [00:13:25] it's mainstream media or social media. [00:13:28] >> And one of the techniques of keeping [00:13:31] people confused is overloading them. [00:13:33] They don't have time. [00:13:35] >> Who has time [00:13:37] >> to sift through all of this? So what you [00:13:39] do is you find somebody that you think [00:13:42] sifts through it and you listen to them. [00:13:45] >> Y [00:13:46] >> right. That's dangerous. [00:13:48] >> Yep. Um because you never re-evaluate [00:13:52] once you've made your decision and said, [00:13:54] "I trust this person." You don't go back [00:13:57] and go, "Do I still trust this person?" [00:13:59] Right? Am I going to re-evaluate? You [00:14:01] just you buy what they say, right? And [00:14:03] they have ulterior motives as well. [00:14:06] >> I'm going to do a a a gratus plug, if [00:14:10] you will. Um I use a an app called [00:14:15] Ground News that I I love. Mhm. [00:14:18] >> Uh I found it I'm always looking for a [00:14:20] news aggregator to get as much news as I [00:14:22] can because I want it from different [00:14:24] places. [00:14:26] Ground News does that and they I love it [00:14:30] because they say here's a here's a [00:14:32] headline. [00:14:34] Here's the bias bar. 20% of the [00:14:37] left-wing newspapers are covering this. [00:14:41] 50% of the right-wing are covering this. [00:14:44] So you're going to get more right-wing [00:14:45] coverage than leftwing. [00:14:47] Then they have this has been in 44 [00:14:51] newspapers. [00:14:52] Here they all are on a graph of where [00:14:55] those newspapers generally lie. [00:14:59] Choose which one you want to read. [00:15:02] And we'll give you an overview, but you [00:15:04] can choose and see what kind of bias [00:15:06] you're going to get when you read this. [00:15:08] >> Interesting. [00:15:08] >> I'm like, well, that's nice. [00:15:11] And I'll typically on on kind of hard [00:15:14] charging issues, I'll pick the most [00:15:17] right-wing one and the most leftwing one [00:15:19] I can and read both articles and kind of [00:15:21] see, okay, what do we where are we? [00:15:23] What's going on? [00:15:24] >> Yeah, there's another [00:15:27] site called Real News, No [ __ ] [00:15:30] >> Oh, yeah. [00:15:31] >> You might want to check that one out. [00:15:32] It's pretty good, too. [00:15:33] >> I've had the uh I've had them on. [00:15:36] >> Yeah. [00:15:36] >> So, [00:15:37] >> people are trying. [00:15:38] >> They are. They are trying. [00:15:41] >> Even some politicians are trying. [00:15:43] >> Some, not very many. I I got to tell [00:15:46] you, I saw the most interesting ad the [00:15:48] other day and I think it was [00:15:53] God, I think it was governor of [00:15:55] Wisconsin. Are they reelecting one? No [00:15:58] idea. I forgot. [00:16:01] But both of the candidates [00:16:04] came on together and said, "We need to [00:16:07] improve. here's what needs to improve. [00:16:10] And they both looked at each other and [00:16:11] went, "Right." And they both went, [00:16:12] "Yeah." And one guy said, "I think we [00:16:15] can best improve by doing it this way." [00:16:18] The other guy said, "I think we can best [00:16:20] improve by doing it this way." [00:16:23] >> And he said, "Wow." And one guy said, "I [00:16:24] hope you vote for me and I hope you [00:16:25] agree." The other one said, "I hope you [00:16:27] vote for me and hope you agree." And [00:16:29] they looked at each other and said, [00:16:30] >> "When did this happen?" [00:16:31] >> And they said, "We approve this [00:16:33] message." I'm like, [00:16:34] >> "Oh my god." [00:16:35] >> Wow. Holy [ __ ] This is what politics [00:16:38] should be. [00:16:39] >> Yeah. [00:16:40] >> Disagree on how you're going to get [00:16:41] there, but let's agree on what we need [00:16:44] to do. [00:16:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:45] >> I've got to go find it because I'm I [00:16:48] hate giving information when I don't [00:16:50] have the exact facts. But I I did see [00:16:52] it. It was real. It was within the last [00:16:54] 6 months. I've got to go find it so I [00:16:57] can I can reference it. [00:16:59] >> We'll find it and put it up right now. [00:17:01] >> There you go. [00:17:01] >> Perfect. There's a follow-up question [00:17:03] here. Do you think we are being herded [00:17:06] into World War II? [00:17:09] >> Feels that way. [00:17:10] >> It sure does, doesn't it? [00:17:12] >> Absolutely does. [00:17:14] >> When you look at everything going on, [00:17:18] the outlook does not look good. [00:17:21] Um, [00:17:24] when I was a pilot, we talked about [00:17:27] chain of events. [00:17:29] Whenever there was a mishap, when [00:17:31] something happened, it didn't happen in [00:17:34] a vacuum, [00:17:36] an event happened, but you look back and [00:17:39] you're like, well, before that, [00:17:41] this aircraft had a maintenance issue. [00:17:44] The pilot had a flat tire on the way to [00:17:47] the the squadron that day, right? The [00:17:51] other pilot had was in a fight the night [00:17:54] before. you know, um, you go back and [00:17:57] you see a chain of events and we were [00:18:00] trained to start noticing those. Notice [00:18:03] when you see a chain starting to form [00:18:06] and break it, it's okay to come in and [00:18:09] say, "Hey, someone else needs to take [00:18:11] this flight because I see this [00:18:13] happening." [00:18:14] And if I just extrapolate, [00:18:17] it's not going to end up in a good spot. [00:18:19] I see a chain of events happening right [00:18:22] now. [00:18:23] I it it worries me. It worries me a lot [00:18:27] because [00:18:29] not because the chain is forming and I [00:18:32] don't think I'm the only one to see it. [00:18:34] I think a lot of people are feeling [00:18:35] uncomfortable. [00:18:37] The thing that worries me is that the [00:18:39] people that should be able to break that [00:18:41] chain are not. [00:18:44] >> Would you say they're escalating it? [00:18:46] >> I would actually. [00:18:48] >> How so? If you look at world events [00:18:50] right now, I mean, was there a reason [00:18:52] for for Russia to invade Ukraine right [00:18:55] now? Are we talking about bombing Iran [00:18:58] right now? Are we [00:19:00] toppling the government in Venezuela [00:19:03] right now? Talking about Greenland right [00:19:05] now? I mean, if you look back, [00:19:08] there are so many things happening right [00:19:11] now. [00:19:12] >> It's hard not to put those together and [00:19:14] say it's building. It's escalating. [00:19:19] I'm with you. I just [00:19:22] I try to look for something positive and [00:19:24] [clears throat] [00:19:26] I can't find it. [laughter] So [00:19:29] >> I I don't know if the [00:19:32] world had less activity [00:19:36] 25 years ago or not because I wasn't [00:19:38] paying attention. I was I just wasn't [00:19:39] old enough to give a [ __ ] Yeah. And um [00:19:42] so I don't know, you know, if this is [00:19:48] more escalation than what we've seen, [00:19:50] you know, [00:19:52] >> I think it is. [00:19:53] >> It feels like it. [00:19:54] >> It it does. Um [00:19:58] when I look back, same same thing, [00:20:00] right? When you're young, you don't [00:20:01] notice a lot of stuff going on. [00:20:03] >> Mhm. But you start to and then you think [00:20:06] back and you can go back and research [00:20:09] and go, was there ever this much stuff [00:20:11] going on [00:20:14] and I would say not to this degree of [00:20:17] number and not to this intensity. [00:20:21] There's a lot going on [00:20:24] >> and I [00:20:26] something has to change. either we end [00:20:29] up in a world war or somebody [00:20:32] deescalates somehow. [00:20:35] But even a world war, it's not going to [00:20:37] be the way it was. World War I and World [00:20:39] War II were what, 10, 12 years apart. [00:20:41] The same kind of warfare, upgraded [00:20:43] weapons a little bit, but generally [00:20:46] speaking, same kind of warfare. [00:20:48] >> Mhm. [00:20:49] >> Not today. [00:20:50] >> Yeah, we're almost it won't even look [00:20:52] similar to the Afghanistan Iraq. [00:20:54] >> No. No. [00:20:56] >> I mean, I can I can [00:20:59] I don't know. I'm out of the military. I [00:21:01] don't have any access to anything [00:21:04] classified. I know what was around when [00:21:07] I was in. And if I extrapolate that, [00:21:12] um, [00:21:14] wow. I can't imagine. [00:21:18] You know, we see things that happen and [00:21:20] a lot of people, us, all of us, we don't [00:21:24] always connect the dots and say, "Well, [00:21:25] if this happened here, then this could [00:21:28] happen here." [00:21:30] And little things, well, not little, but [00:21:34] they seem separated. [00:21:37] Remember when um New Orleans, the uh [00:21:41] dyke broke and flooded most of New [00:21:43] Orleans after the hurricane, right? [00:21:46] It was a disaster. People couldn't get [00:21:49] food. They had no electricity, [00:21:52] you know, uh started uh getting disease, [00:21:55] famine, everything in a major US city, [00:21:59] right? [00:22:01] All an enemy has to do is turn off our [00:22:03] power, [00:22:05] right? And that's could be cyber [00:22:08] security. Our cyber security and our [00:22:11] power system has not been upgraded [00:22:14] to a great extent for the last 15 years. [00:22:18] I can't if I were another country that [00:22:21] wanted to attack us. I don't need [00:22:23] bombers. I don't need nuclear weapons. I [00:22:27] need cyber. I need to turn off your [00:22:30] power. I need to turn off your [00:22:32] communication. And I need to somehow [00:22:35] shortcircuit your supply system. [00:22:39] All of those are not hard to do. [00:22:42] So when we say World War II, I'm not [00:22:45] seeing bombs and lines of battle. And I [00:22:49] think it's going to be much more [00:22:51] systemic than that than anything else. [00:22:56] When I look at some of the stuff that [00:23:00] China is saying, Russia, [00:23:04] they don't like us being the world [00:23:06] police. I don't like us being the one [00:23:07] from the world. American police don't [00:23:09] want us to be the world police. [00:23:11] >> Bricks. [00:23:12] >> Yep. [00:23:17] >> I just I don't know if we have any real [00:23:20] allies. [00:23:23] I think it would be [00:23:29] I think we're going to have a run for [00:23:30] our money here and I don't think it's [00:23:32] going to go kinetic. [00:23:34] >> I agree. I don't think it'll be kinetic. [00:23:36] >> I don't even know if they would [00:23:41] because right now, I mean, if you think [00:23:43] if you look at what they're doing right [00:23:44] now with all the propaganda and and I [00:23:47] mean, I think we're doing a great job of [00:23:50] turning ourselves against each other as [00:23:52] it is, but Russia's also doing it. [00:23:54] China's also doing it. I'm sure there's [00:23:56] other players involved as well. [00:23:59] And that's, you know, they're they're [00:24:00] dumping gas on this. And I just had this [00:24:03] conversation, I can't remember with who, [00:24:04] but [00:24:07] I think we are so fragile right now as a [00:24:10] country [00:24:13] that [00:24:15] they're not going to need to cut our [00:24:17] power. They're not going to need I I [00:24:20] don't think they're going to need to do [00:24:21] anything where there could be a trace [00:24:24] back to them. [00:24:26] >> Think we'll do it to ourselves. I think [00:24:27] we'll do it. I think they're helping us [00:24:29] do it to ourselves and they're dumping [00:24:31] gas on [00:24:32] >> on the fuel for us to do it to [00:24:33] ourselves. But if they can do it, if [00:24:35] they can cause a civil war, regime [00:24:37] change, [00:24:38] >> same [ __ ] that just it's going on in [00:24:40] Iran right now. [00:24:41] >> Yeah. [00:24:42] >> If they can cause that to happen here [00:24:44] and we're pretty [ __ ] close. [00:24:45] >> We are close. [00:24:46] >> And we I mean, look at what's going on [00:24:48] in Minnesota right [ __ ] now and [00:24:52] probably in a lot of other cities. [00:24:55] >> [clears throat] [00:24:56] >> I think we're we are very close. We're [00:24:58] on the brink. It could go into civil [00:25:00] war. It could go into regime change. A [00:25:02] lot of things could happen. Once it does [00:25:04] happen, though, the amount of guns and [00:25:07] weapons in this country, [00:25:16] it is astronomical. [00:25:19] Astronomically more than anything that [00:25:21] I've ever seen. And I've been at some [00:25:22] nasty [ __ ] places. [00:25:24] >> Yeah. And so if they can get that to [00:25:27] happen, we will we [00:25:31] this will become the most dangerous [00:25:32] country in the world. Nobody's coming in [00:25:36] here. [00:25:36] >> I I [00:25:37] >> there's no nation building. [00:25:38] >> No. [00:25:39] >> When the US turns it on itself, [00:25:41] >> no, [00:25:41] >> it is [ __ ] pure carnage everywhere [00:25:44] you look. And everybody here is armed to [00:25:47] the teeth. And I think quite honestly if [00:25:50] we're honest with ourselves, [00:25:53] we are already one of the most dangerous [00:25:56] countries in the world. Other countries, [00:26:00] you know, we warn US citizens, don't go [00:26:03] to Iran, right? Don't go to Venezuela. [00:26:06] Don't go to wherever. [00:26:08] Other countries are warning their [00:26:10] citizens, don't go to the US. [00:26:13] I mean, if you look at the number of [00:26:15] civilians that are shot and killed every [00:26:19] year, [00:26:20] we're number one. [00:26:23] What country has more of its citizens [00:26:27] in prison than any other in the world? [00:26:30] We're number one, [00:26:32] right? I mean, if you step outside the [00:26:35] US [00:26:37] and you start looking in, [00:26:40] we're not a safe place. I mean, you you [00:26:44] don't even have to pull up statistics. [00:26:46] And by the way, I'm very pro gun. I love [00:26:49] I I am pro 2A. I am want to give them [00:26:52] up. [00:26:52] >> I I am too. [00:26:53] >> But it is a fact. And [00:26:56] but I mean, you [00:26:59] pretty well traveled. We travel a lot, [00:27:00] you know, for business. [00:27:02] >> We go to other parts of the world. [00:27:05] I mean, this county is really nice, but [00:27:09] go to go to Chicago and then go to some [00:27:14] city overseas and tell me which one's [00:27:16] shittier. [00:27:17] >> What's that? [00:27:18] >> Tell me which one which one is shittier. [00:27:20] Which one has outdated infrastructure? [00:27:23] Where do you feel where do you feel like [00:27:26] there are constantly threats around you? [00:27:29] Where you it [00:27:32] it's a big [ __ ] lie. [00:27:35] It's funny. I I go to Tokyo. I walk [00:27:38] around downtown Tokyo in the middle of [00:27:40] the night as a foreigner and feel [00:27:42] absolutely safe. I was recently in [00:27:45] Istanbul. [00:27:47] 2:00 in the morning, we decide, let's go [00:27:50] get some food. [00:27:52] Just walk around Istanbul. Feel [00:27:54] absolutely safe. [00:27:56] I go to New York City. [00:27:59] I'm looking over my shoulder every two [00:28:01] feet. You know, I I don't I feel very [00:28:04] unsafe there, [00:28:06] >> right? Los Angeles, same thing. Chicago, [00:28:10] same thing. [00:28:12] It's weird [00:28:14] because we have this [00:28:18] American exceptionalism where we are the [00:28:20] best. [00:28:22] Okay. [00:28:23] And we are we're a great country, [00:28:27] but we shouldn't be afraid to go out in [00:28:30] our own cities. And if we are, we have [00:28:32] to be honest and look ourselves in the [00:28:34] face and say why. [00:28:38] It's not just a system. It's not just a [00:28:40] symptom of a large city cuz other large [00:28:44] cities in the world aren't like that. [00:28:45] >> Mhm. [00:28:46] >> So what is it? What are we doing? [00:28:49] [snorts] [00:28:51] We have [00:28:56] I think it's a number of things. I think [00:28:57] it's greed. [00:28:59] All of our money is leaving the country. [00:29:02] I think it is [00:29:09] the [00:29:11] bastardization of [00:29:14] law enforcement, [00:29:16] the lack of resp not just all the [ __ ] [00:29:19] we see on the news right now. It is I [00:29:21] mean we have we have we have destroyed [00:29:24] trust in and law enforcement. Mhm. [00:29:26] >> Um, [00:29:28] so there's that. Now all these guys are [00:29:31] too scared to do their job. Rightly so. [00:29:36] If they make a mistake, they're probably [00:29:38] going to pay with a with their life sit [00:29:40] in prison. You know, [00:29:43] it's [00:29:47] those are the two things that come to my [00:29:48] mind. [00:29:52] It's uh [00:29:53] >> lack of trust in institutions. [00:29:55] >> Oh, all institutions, right? Um and when [00:30:00] you look at it, all of our major [00:30:02] institutions that make a country what it [00:30:05] is, our government, our healthcare, our [00:30:10] education, our law enforcement, [00:30:13] our social services, [00:30:16] our military. [00:30:19] We've lost faith in almost all of them [00:30:22] because of things that have happened. [00:30:25] And how do you lose faith? Right. [00:30:27] >> Well, you never see any you never see [00:30:29] any consequences or repercussions or [00:30:33] anybody held accountable in any position [00:30:35] of power. It's obvious obviously a [00:30:38] two-tiered system. This isn't a [ __ ] [00:30:40] conspiracy anymore. It is a [ __ ] [00:30:42] two-tiered system [00:30:43] >> without a doubt. [00:30:44] >> You know, and and so how do you get the [00:30:47] trust back? Well, first you have to pin [00:30:48] somebody's ass to the wall who actually [00:30:50] did something wrong. And these people [00:30:52] don't have the [ __ ] courage to do [00:30:53] that. [00:30:54] >> Without a doubt. You know what? And if [00:30:56] there's I just finished uh Assad Khan's [00:31:00] book, Betrayal of Command, [00:31:03] and you know, he was talking about some [00:31:05] of this, right? [00:31:08] And if there's anything I take out of [00:31:10] that and anything that I like to see in [00:31:13] the US and what I used to see in the [00:31:16] Marine Corps and I haven't been in the [00:31:18] Marine Corps since 1994, [00:31:22] right? [00:31:24] But [00:31:25] Marines [00:31:27] used to be proud that they were Marines [00:31:29] and no matter what, if you said [00:31:32] something, that's the way it was. If you [00:31:34] did something wrong, [00:31:36] at least the people I was with, you [00:31:39] would say, "Yeah, my bad. I screwed up. [00:31:42] >> I'll fix it." Or, "Tell me what I need [00:31:44] to do to fix it, but I screwed up." [00:31:47] Right? [00:31:49] You don't see that a lot today. [00:31:51] >> There's no ownership. [00:31:53] >> No. And especially with our government, [00:31:55] you see something happen. I'm like, [00:31:56] just, we see what happened. We're not [00:31:59] stupid. We see what happened. just own [00:32:03] up to it and tell us how you're going to [00:32:05] fix it. Don't blame it on everybody [00:32:08] else. Yeah, [00:32:08] >> that is the weakest [00:32:11] I would say form of leadership, but it's [00:32:13] not even leadership. That's the that is [00:32:15] the largest abdication of leadership [00:32:18] when you won't even own up to things. [00:32:28] Hey, I know. We both just take a deep [00:32:29] breath and like, [sighs] what are we [00:32:31] going to do? [00:32:32] >> Cuz it's not going to get fixed. [00:32:35] >> It's not. It's entrenched now and it's [00:32:37] systemic. [00:32:38] And that means that there has to be a [00:32:42] systemic [00:32:44] change. And I don't want to be the one [00:32:45] that comes on your show and says [00:32:48] revolution, right? [00:32:50] But things have to change. And um we are [00:32:56] right now whether we want to define [00:32:59] ourselves that way or not [00:33:02] in the world. We're an empire. [00:33:05] We control other countries economically, [00:33:08] militarily. We tell them what to do and [00:33:10] they have little choice but to comply. [00:33:13] We're an empire. [00:33:15] If you study every empire that has ever [00:33:18] existed on the planet, they all end and [00:33:21] they all end badly because they start [00:33:24] believing their own lies [00:33:26] and they stop taking accountability for [00:33:30] what they do. They do it because they [00:33:32] can and they get away with it because [00:33:34] they can and nobody ever calls them on [00:33:38] it until you just you can't do it [00:33:41] anymore. It's like a Ponzi scheme. [00:33:43] Eventually, it falls. [00:33:46] If we had leaders that took more [00:33:48] accountability, [00:33:50] like I said, if something went wrong, [00:33:52] say it went wrong. Don't try and spin [00:33:55] it. Don't try and convince us that it [00:33:57] was the right thing. We all see it. [00:34:01] And I think that's one of our biggest [00:34:02] things that has to change [00:34:05] or the future will change us. [00:34:10] No matter where you're watching the [00:34:11] Shaun Ryan Show from, if you get [00:34:14] anything out of this at all, anything, [00:34:17] please like, comment, and subscribe. And [00:34:21] most importantly, share this everywhere [00:34:25] you possibly can. 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