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[00:00:00] Who do you think is the most
[00:00:00] responsible? Why would they want him
[00:00:01] gone?
[00:00:02] >> I think Charlie was not allowed to be
[00:00:05] anything but a Christian Zionist and he
[00:00:07] was changing in the last few weeks.
[00:00:09] Everything began ratcheting up after
[00:00:10] Tucker Carlson hit the stage.
[00:00:12] >> That pissed him off.
[00:00:13] >> It was like a fullcourt press effort to
[00:00:15] lie about everything. I do not like the
[00:00:18] way Turning Point is behaving. I have
[00:00:19] made that clear. And nobody is going to
[00:00:22] emotionally manipulate me and tell me to
[00:00:24] attack Turning Point would be to attack
[00:00:25] his legacy. Charlie told me years ago he
[00:00:27] was having a ton of visions and was
[00:00:29] telling me the turning point was going
[00:00:30] to be the death of him. He knew he was
[00:00:31] going to die young and strangely knew
[00:00:32] that I was going to be the only person
[00:00:33] to defend him.
[00:00:34] >> Candace, thank you for having me here.
[00:00:37] >> I'm excited and thank you for making it
[00:00:38] work on short notice.
[00:00:39] >> Of course. Of course. These are crazy
[00:00:41] times. So, I totally, you know, we got
[00:00:43] to be careful about where we're at,
[00:00:44] right?
[00:00:44] >> So, it's been a while since uh we last
[00:00:47] spoke. Last time you were on I remember
[00:00:49] we did after hours where you uh were
[00:00:50] saving a few women's lives. And I do I
[00:00:52] did want to tell you this on camera. One
[00:00:54] of the girls that you spoke to actually
[00:00:55] quit Only Fans on that day.
[00:00:57] >> Wow. It was a good conversation. I feel
[00:00:59] like a lot of people think that I guess
[00:01:02] those conversations are not worth it or
[00:01:03] the show is all theater, but for me, I
[00:01:05] want to sit across from these young
[00:01:06] women because anybody's life could have
[00:01:08] ended that way. You know what I mean?
[00:01:10] Like I I could have ended up being one
[00:01:11] of these only fan girls if there weren't
[00:01:13] so many like life interventions because
[00:01:16] it's just being sold to women so much
[00:01:18] that this is the easy way out. You know
[00:01:20] what I mean? So,
[00:01:21] >> yeah. But I wanted to make sure I told
[00:01:22] you that, you know, on camera that she
[00:01:24] literally quit like not too long after
[00:01:26] you did that uh you did that show. So
[00:01:28] that's great. Saving lives.
[00:01:30] >> So kind of with that, um I saw that you
[00:01:32] had did a debate on Jubilee with a bunch
[00:01:35] of feminists. Um obviously we're in a
[00:01:39] modern day age. Things have changed
[00:01:40] quite a bit. We've both been pretty
[00:01:42] critical of feminism. But I think with
[00:01:44] what you're doing, you know, you're able
[00:01:46] to really reach a demographic of women
[00:01:48] that just guys like me and Andrew Tate
[00:01:50] and others just aren't going to reach
[00:01:51] because, you know, we're abrasive in the
[00:01:52] way that we get it. So, they might want
[00:01:55] um, you know, another female's
[00:01:56] perspective on, you know, the detriments
[00:01:58] of feminism and everything else like
[00:01:59] that. So, kind of given how society is
[00:02:02] now, how do you see feminism today with
[00:02:04] young women? And then what do you
[00:02:06] predict is going to happen in the next 5
[00:02:07] 10 years? Are we getting better? Is it
[00:02:09] getting worse? What are your thoughts in
[00:02:10] general on that? So, I was actually very
[00:02:12] interested in Tate culture, I guess I'm
[00:02:15] going to call it. So, I'm I'm going to
[00:02:16] put you in that orbit of Tate culture.
[00:02:19] All of these male influencers that were
[00:02:20] coming out and calling girls and
[00:02:23] hoes and all this stuff. And people sat
[00:02:25] back and were like, "Oh my god, these
[00:02:27] this is horrible." Whatever. But I'm
[00:02:28] like, "Wait a second. Whatever you think
[00:02:29] about him, whatever you think about
[00:02:31] Tristan, whatever you think about Myin,
[00:02:33] this culture got very big very quickly.
[00:02:34] And there's got to be something there,
[00:02:36] right? There has to be." So, I kind of
[00:02:38] that was the reason why I flew out to
[00:02:39] meet Andrew Tate. There was all these
[00:02:41] conspiracies that I knew him before and
[00:02:43] all. I met Andrew a total of two times
[00:02:46] before I did his show. My husband hung
[00:02:48] out with him maybe three times in his
[00:02:50] life before um him and I met. He was
[00:02:52] actually friends with PJW and that's
[00:02:54] that's how I met Andrew. So we were I my
[00:02:57] husband was actually friends with PJW.
[00:02:59] >> Um and I just wanted to know what it was
[00:03:01] cuz I'm never a person that will dismiss
[00:03:03] something on its face and call it a
[00:03:04] name. Like there has to be some
[00:03:05] substance here. And what was actually
[00:03:08] happening was you got Andrew Tate and
[00:03:10] Tristan Tate and you got Myron Gaines
[00:03:12] because you perpetuated a culture of
[00:03:14] Lena Dunhams, right? So you're acting
[00:03:17] like men just got tired of it is what
[00:03:19] happened. And finally men looked around
[00:03:21] and somebody stood up and said, "It's
[00:03:22] actually okay to be a man and you don't
[00:03:24] have to listen to any of these women."
[00:03:26] Now you may not have liked how they said
[00:03:28] it. You may not have liked that they
[00:03:29] were doing this on top of Lamborghinis,
[00:03:31] but the reality is is that what sat
[00:03:33] beneath that was a horribly toxic
[00:03:36] culture where women were dictating the
[00:03:38] terms to men and every time a man did
[00:03:40] something that actually felt natural to
[00:03:43] them, you called it toxic masculinity
[00:03:45] and books were written and Lena Dunham
[00:03:47] was writing articles and there's a show
[00:03:49] about this and Lena Dunham's naked on
[00:03:50] Instagram. I wrote a whole chapter about
[00:03:52] Lena Dunham in my book and she's naked
[00:03:54] on Instagram and she's lecturing you if
[00:03:56] you don't want to see her um you know
[00:03:59] overweight naked and tatted up. So you
[00:04:02] can't blame the culture tape culture
[00:04:06] until you are ready to address where
[00:04:08] this actually came from which was women
[00:04:09] constantly bashing men over the head and
[00:04:11] telling them that masculinity full stop
[00:04:14] was wrong. given the problems that we
[00:04:16] have, you know, obviously whether it's
[00:04:18] me or Tate or other people will kind of
[00:04:20] come in and say, "Hey, this is what you
[00:04:21] need to do as a guy. You know, this is
[00:04:23] how the modern day marketplace is now
[00:04:25] when it comes to dating." What's your
[00:04:27] approach to kind of combating this
[00:04:28] problem from a female perspective?
[00:04:30] >> First, you have to understand the origin
[00:04:31] of feminism, right? Uh you have to
[00:04:33] understand that this was not a culture
[00:04:36] and an ideology that came because they
[00:04:38] wanted women to have equal rights with
[00:04:40] men. Okay? This was a CIA sponsored
[00:04:43] SCOP. Um it Gloria Steinum was sponsored
[00:04:47] by the CIA. Okay. These protests were
[00:04:50] sponsored by men in government. Um a lot
[00:04:53] of them homosexual actually. And the
[00:04:55] reason for that was simply because they
[00:04:57] wanted to tax to it was actually twofold
[00:04:59] I would say. They wanted to tax uh
[00:05:02] households household income both ways.
[00:05:04] And also they wanted women to instead of
[00:05:07] focusing on their kids which comes
[00:05:08] natural to women right to be the quote
[00:05:10] unquote like I say CEO of the household.
[00:05:13] Um they wanted to remove that and to
[00:05:15] have the children given to the
[00:05:17] government for six hours a day beyond
[00:05:19] six hours a day. Six hours a day plus
[00:05:21] whatever sports activities which gives
[00:05:23] the government full control over the
[00:05:24] minds of the children. This came
[00:05:26] straight from the pale of settlement
[00:05:29] after they assassinated the SAR. You had
[00:05:31] these Jewish women like um Emma Goldman
[00:05:34] who came over to America. Emma Goldman
[00:05:36] was the mentor to uh what's her face
[00:05:39] from Planned Parenthood. I'm blanking on
[00:05:41] her name for a moment. I'm going to say
[00:05:42] Margaret. Margaret Margaret Sanger, that
[00:05:44] was her mentor.
[00:05:46] >> And so this was in fact a very radical
[00:05:51] communist movement that came to America
[00:05:53] and sought to overthrow families, family
[00:05:56] institutions, strong men, um, feminine
[00:05:58] women, stands in the way of government
[00:06:00] and absolute control. in your book, Make
[00:06:02] Him a Sandwich, um what are some of the
[00:06:05] things that you tell the women, because
[00:06:07] I'm assuming it's a it's a book that's
[00:06:08] gonna be centered around how women can
[00:06:09] kind of get into marketplace, find a
[00:06:12] long-term partner, get married. What are
[00:06:14] some of the strategies that you imple
[00:06:16] that you uh tell women to implement to
[00:06:17] find a partner?
[00:06:18] >> You don't have to give it all away.
[00:06:19] >> No, it's fine. I don't even try in my
[00:06:21] book to sell them a strategy or a
[00:06:24] technique. I just tell the truth. So,
[00:06:25] here's the history of feminism. Here's
[00:06:26] what we were told in school. Here's
[00:06:28] actually how it went down, right?
[00:06:29] Knowledge is power. Uh, I give them the
[00:06:31] the actual statistics of the fact that
[00:06:33] what was sold to you was you were going
[00:06:34] to be just like a man and you were going
[00:06:35] to be happier. Women are actually more
[00:06:36] miserable than they've ever been. Uh, if
[00:06:38] you go back and you ask most women about
[00:06:40] their grandmothers, they remember
[00:06:41] grandma being happy, right? So, uh, what
[00:06:45] they actually sold to you, now you've
[00:06:47] achieved this equality, quote unquote
[00:06:49] equality. And women have never been more
[00:06:51] miserable. And women are popping more
[00:06:53] pills than they were popping and finding
[00:06:55] it harder to find a part partner and
[00:06:57] wondering why. Well, it's because you
[00:06:59] attacked natural masculinity. You told
[00:07:02] men that they shouldn't be allowed to
[00:07:03] lead. Women have to lead. And actually,
[00:07:06] you didn't want that, right? You um were
[00:07:09] convinced psychologically in a classroom
[00:07:11] as I was back when I wanted to be a
[00:07:13] feminist or I thought feminism was cool.
[00:07:15] And you should know that. And I think
[00:07:16] that that's how you change things
[00:07:17] without trying to say here's a strategy
[00:07:19] and here's how we're going to move
[00:07:20] forward. Let people know true knowledge.
[00:07:22] Let people know true history. And I
[00:07:24] think the rest of the stuff happens
[00:07:26] naturally or I hope
[00:07:27] >> for you on your journey. When did you
[00:07:29] like figure out that feminism was a lie?
[00:07:32] Like was there a certain event that
[00:07:33] triggered it that you were like, "Holy
[00:07:34] crap, this is this is BS."
[00:07:36] >> I actually tell the story in this book.
[00:07:38] I think I do actually. I think it's in
[00:07:39] this book or it's in my last book
[00:07:40] actually. It's in Blackout of this
[00:07:42] teacher that I had and I had was
[00:07:45] required to take a feminism 101. It was
[00:07:48] called women's studies. Uh maybe it was
[00:07:50] women's studies 2011 at the University
[00:07:51] of Rhode Island. And at that time I was
[00:07:53] like, "Yeah, I'm a feminist." Of course,
[00:07:54] who doesn't want equality as they sold
[00:07:56] it?
[00:07:56] >> Yeah.
[00:07:56] >> It gets into this classroom. And this
[00:07:58] teacher, I realized very quickly, was
[00:08:00] not actually motivated by wanting
[00:08:02] equality. She was I was in a classroom
[00:08:04] where she was trying to convince me that
[00:08:06] every problem that we had in society was
[00:08:09] due to men. This was a literal class
[00:08:11] that was designed to basically teach
[00:08:13] women to hate men. Like no matter all
[00:08:15] all you had to do to get an A was she
[00:08:17] would introduce any problem. She could
[00:08:19] have lost her keys that morning and been
[00:08:22] like, "Why did this happen?
[00:08:23] Well, you know what designed cars? You
[00:08:25] know who designed cars? Do you know who
[00:08:27] designed the whole concept of a car key
[00:08:29] and who designed the couch that you lost
[00:08:31] it in this morning? It was me. It was It
[00:08:33] became the point where for me it was
[00:08:34] like laughable.
[00:08:35] >> Yeah.
[00:08:36] >> And but there was this one particular
[00:08:37] class where it clicked for me cuz when I
[00:08:40] was in uh college, I had an eating
[00:08:42] disorder. So, I was sitting in her class
[00:08:43] and I had uh I was anorexic and she gets
[00:08:47] into this topic of of anorexia, eating
[00:08:49] disorders. And she gave us some
[00:08:51] statistic about the amount the
[00:08:53] percentage of women that have eating
[00:08:54] disorders. And I'm making this up now,
[00:08:56] but it was something like 80% of people
[00:08:58] who have eating disorders are women. And
[00:09:00] she asked the class why is that? And we
[00:09:03] were supposed to say, and she did say
[00:09:05] that it was because men control the
[00:09:08] advertising agency and men want women to
[00:09:10] be skinny. And it had literally I'm
[00:09:13] sitting here having this experience
[00:09:14] nothing to do with a man. Like nothing.
[00:09:16] No man said you're fat. You have to be
[00:09:18] skinny. That is completely made up. And
[00:09:20] I'm listening to her try to
[00:09:21] psychologically convince me that my
[00:09:23] eating disorder came from a man when it
[00:09:24] just factually didn't. Most people who
[00:09:26] suffer with anorexia know it's a control
[00:09:28] mechanism. It actually has nothing even
[00:09:29] to do with weight. It just is like this
[00:09:30] is the one thing you can control. And um
[00:09:33] I just kind of called her out on that
[00:09:35] and I raised my hand. I was like, whoa,
[00:09:36] wait a second.
[00:09:37] >> Okay. Well, let's look at another
[00:09:39] statistic. How many what percentage of
[00:09:41] people are juicing up with steroids?
[00:09:45] Right? That's not a super healthy thing
[00:09:46] to do. If we said that 90% of it was men
[00:09:49] would you have presented to the class
[00:09:51] that it was because of women, right?
[00:09:52] Because women are telling them they have
[00:09:54] to look like this. And she was uh I mean
[00:09:56] when I say she went white and she said
[00:10:00] to me, and I always tell the story on
[00:10:02] stage, she said to me, "I feel like you
[00:10:03] were sent to me from the men's
[00:10:05] department."
[00:10:05] >> Of course.
[00:10:06] >> Yeah. I told her that I told her I told
[00:10:08] her back that I was sent to her from the
[00:10:10] common sense department
[00:10:11] >> and that everything couldn't be because
[00:10:13] of men. So I think that was kind of the
[00:10:16] first time that it clicked for me that
[00:10:19] this was some sort of a psychological
[00:10:20] program. Um in many ways I was actually
[00:10:23] saved by
[00:10:24] >> How old were you at that point? You're
[00:10:25] >> I was in college so I was n 19.
[00:10:27] >> Okay.
[00:10:28] >> Yeah. It was first it was the first year
[00:10:29] of college.
[00:10:30] >> Okay.
[00:10:30] >> Uh so yeah it was a it was a
[00:10:33] prerequisite.
[00:10:34] So it was interesting for me. I think
[00:10:36] >> did that make you shift your priorities?
[00:10:38] Like
[00:10:38] >> I wasn't like I was never a gun ho
[00:10:40] feminist. I just was like in the back of
[00:10:41] my mind same way that I was liberal.
[00:10:43] Like I was never voting Democrat, but if
[00:10:44] you had asked me, "What do you think
[00:10:45] about this?" I would have very quickly
[00:10:46] been like, "Of course we need feminism."
[00:10:48] >> Uh and then I was kind of thinking, man,
[00:10:51] these women are really annoying in this
[00:10:53] classroom. Cuz then there were the
[00:10:54] majors that were there, you know, the
[00:10:57] people these women that were tatted up
[00:10:59] and like growing their armpit hair out.
[00:11:01] You know, we had those people in class
[00:11:02] and I was like, "I don't like any of
[00:11:03] these people. So it made me think that
[00:11:06] there was something more to the feminist
[00:11:08] movement. I think that which was
[00:11:10] indoctrination.
[00:11:11] >> Interesting. Okay. So I think you've
[00:11:14] been able to do what every woman dreams
[00:11:16] of. Have a family, have children, um
[00:11:19] have your dream man, but simultaneously
[00:11:22] being able to also, you know, run a
[00:11:24] business and do what you want to do. And
[00:11:25] I noticed when you were debating on um
[00:11:28] Jubilee, some of them tried to say, "Oh,
[00:11:30] well, you're a hypocrite. You're over
[00:11:31] here talking about feminism being bad,
[00:11:33] blah blah blah blah blah, but you know,
[00:11:35] you obviously have a lot of things set
[00:11:36] up where you maximize your ability to be
[00:11:38] with your family, right? You do your
[00:11:39] show, get out of there, spend time with
[00:11:41] your family. Um, what would you say to
[00:11:44] the people that sit there and try to
[00:11:45] call you a hypocrite because, you know,
[00:11:47] you're successful in your own right, but
[00:11:49] you've been able to also balance a
[00:11:51] family, which many women can't do. They
[00:11:52] want to do it, but they can't do it.
[00:11:54] What What would you your response be to
[00:11:55] those uh critics? First and foremost, do
[00:11:59] not allow people to rule you by
[00:12:01] exceptions. What I mean by that is do it
[00:12:03] is such a mistake to look at my life and
[00:12:06] to say Candace did this and so therefore
[00:12:08] I can do this. My life is actually
[00:12:10] exceptional, right? We are sitting in my
[00:12:13] house. I do things on my own terms. I
[00:12:15] wake up in the morning. I get to
[00:12:16] homeschool my kids, right? I'm
[00:12:18] homeschooling my children for hours.
[00:12:20] That's now very important to me. I get
[00:12:23] to do a podcast from home and I am
[00:12:27] actually doing something that I enjoy,
[00:12:29] right? What is the number one thing? If
[00:12:31] you find any woman that makes it and
[00:12:32] she's successful, what is she doing?
[00:12:34] She's tapping into her femininity.
[00:12:36] Communication. Women communicate more
[00:12:38] than men. I have a whole chapter on
[00:12:39] this. We if you have a daughter and a
[00:12:41] son, you know this. Women starts girls
[00:12:43] start speaking faster and we will speak
[00:12:45] more words from men for the rest of our
[00:12:47] lives. And when you actually look and I
[00:12:49] ask people in this chapter, who is the
[00:12:51] most, if I ask you the question right
[00:12:52] now, who is the most successful man in
[00:12:54] the world? Just give me your answer if
[00:12:56] you have to name a couple of them.
[00:12:58] >> Um
[00:13:00] h I was going to say like from a
[00:13:02] financial perspective
[00:13:03] >> just Yeah, sure. Full stop. If I said
[00:13:05] who's the most successful man in the
[00:13:06] world, who would you say?
[00:13:07] >> You could say like the richest guy in
[00:13:08] the world who I would be Elon even
[00:13:10] though it pains me to say that. But
[00:13:12] >> yeah, no, but that's but that's the
[00:13:13] right. You would say Elon or you would
[00:13:15] say
[00:13:15] >> something based on uh meritocracy,
[00:13:18] finances and stuff,
[00:13:18] >> you would say Jeff Bezos. Everyone would
[00:13:20] say the same answers, right? If I ask
[00:13:22] you who is the most successful woman in
[00:13:23] the world, what would you say?
[00:13:25] >> That's where it gets. Yeah, that's I see
[00:13:27] what you're saying.
[00:13:27] >> Like what is it? Like off the top of
[00:13:28] your mind like what what is what what
[00:13:30] are the names that come to your mind?
[00:13:31] >> Yeah. It's an ambiguous like you're like
[00:13:32] okay well are we going to go off career?
[00:13:33] Are we going to go off versus
[00:13:35] >> people would say like Taylor Swift or
[00:13:38] Oprah?
[00:13:39] >> These women are nowhere near the richest
[00:13:42] women in the world. Nobody knows the
[00:13:43] name of the richest woman in the world.
[00:13:44] >> And so I go about through this in my
[00:13:45] chapter. Yeah. You would say Beyonce.
[00:13:47] I'm like, these are the names that you
[00:13:48] would say off the top of your head if I
[00:13:50] asked you who's the most successful.
[00:13:51] Nobody knows. Everybody knows the names
[00:13:53] of the most uh the richest men in the
[00:13:57] world. And yet nobody knows the names of
[00:13:59] the richest women in the world. Good
[00:14:00] point,
[00:14:01] >> right? Nobody knows the names of them.
[00:14:02] Uh and the answer is a Russian woman.
[00:14:04] And I talk about this in my book. I'm
[00:14:05] like, nobody knows her name. And the
[00:14:07] women that you do name actually all
[00:14:09] tapped into their femininity. Taylor
[00:14:12] Swift was writing songs about
[00:14:13] relationships. She was writing songs
[00:14:15] about looking for love and women flocked
[00:14:18] to this. Oprah was communicating to the
[00:14:21] housewife, right? She was speaking about
[00:14:23] issues. They're tapping in actually to
[00:14:26] the one thing that actually you think
[00:14:27] they're standing against. Oh, they're
[00:14:28] the ultimate feminists. No, they tap
[00:14:30] into their femininity and found success
[00:14:32] actually. And women do not um when we
[00:14:36] think about success, we don't measure it
[00:14:38] in terms of finances. That's why these
[00:14:40] women we think are the most quote
[00:14:42] unquote successful women in the world.
[00:14:44] >> Whereas men naturally think finances.
[00:14:47] Oh, it's Jeff Bezos. It's Elon Musk. So,
[00:14:50] I I do a chapter and I speak about that
[00:14:52] in my book about who the richest woman
[00:14:54] in the world is. And then the next 10
[00:14:56] women who are the richest in the world
[00:14:58] are all rich because of who they
[00:14:59] divorced.
[00:15:00] >> Right? So, what is the picture that
[00:15:03] we're recognizing here? Uh we don't
[00:15:07] measure success in the same terms as men
[00:15:09] measure success. Nor should we. And it's
[00:15:12] important for women not to think that
[00:15:16] becoming financially rich somehow means
[00:15:18] that you are successful or that you have
[00:15:21] um triumphed something in life. And
[00:15:24] since having children, like how has that
[00:15:25] like shifted your priorities uh as far
[00:15:29] as I and you can go into as much detail,
[00:15:30] as little as you want, uh as far as like
[00:15:32] how you've kind of prioritized child
[00:15:35] rearing versus like maybe your career
[00:15:36] and doing social media as much because I
[00:15:38] noticed, you know, before you were super
[00:15:39] super active. You still post obviously
[00:15:41] every day, but now it's like, you know,
[00:15:43] there's you have other priorities. So,
[00:15:44] how's that kind of shifted?
[00:15:46] >> Yeah, my family is my number one
[00:15:47] priority. I would say having kids made
[00:15:49] me more secure than ever before. I just
[00:15:53] don't care about the noise. None of it
[00:15:54] matters anymore. And also, I have real
[00:15:58] stake in this fight. Before these were
[00:16:00] just ideas. America shouldn't be run
[00:16:02] like this. This is why um this is what's
[00:16:05] bad. Once you have kids, you have
[00:16:07] actually a real stake in the future of
[00:16:09] America. So, when I am podcasting, the
[00:16:12] subjects that I am covering to me are
[00:16:15] existential, right? Are we being ruled
[00:16:18] by pedophiles and criminals? That's now
[00:16:20] existential for me. um what is happening
[00:16:22] in the school systems? What is happening
[00:16:24] in these churches? What is going on?
[00:16:26] This is now existential because my
[00:16:28] children will inherit the America that I
[00:16:31] fight for or the America that I remain
[00:16:33] silent about.
[00:16:34] >> And just to kind of finish off with the
[00:16:35] feminism real quick. So, what do you
[00:16:37] think are the top three things holding
[00:16:40] women back from fulfillment and
[00:16:42] happiness right now? The number one
[00:16:45] thing I would say that's holding women
[00:16:46] back would be not understanding the
[00:16:50] history of feminism. I think I think
[00:16:51] once you know that everything like
[00:16:54] knowledge is actually power. I would say
[00:16:57] the second thing that's holding them
[00:16:58] back is the psychology of peer pressure
[00:17:02] and that is the psychology and the peer
[00:17:05] pressure starts when we are in school
[00:17:07] with women being told you have to go to
[00:17:09] college, you have to have a career. The
[00:17:10] last thing you should be thinking about,
[00:17:11] you have plenty of time. You don't
[00:17:13] actually have plenty of time
[00:17:14] biologically speaking. You literally
[00:17:16] don't have plenty of time. Men might
[00:17:17] have plenty of time biologically
[00:17:19] speaking, but your body is telling you
[00:17:20] you don't. Um, and
[00:17:23] >> so I think and then that kind of gets
[00:17:25] into the education. The education system
[00:17:28] truly is just Soviet propaganda in the
[00:17:32] classrooms. So those would be the top
[00:17:34] two things. And so they're ignoring
[00:17:36] their gut instinct and following um the
[00:17:39] herd. So understanding what feminism
[00:17:42] feminism is and how it came into place
[00:17:43] makes it a lot easier to understand
[00:17:45] everything else. All right, fair enough.
[00:17:46] What do you think so far about this
[00:17:48] switching politics? What do you think so
[00:17:49] far about this administration with
[00:17:51] Trump?
[00:17:51] >> Look at that.
[00:17:52] >> Good, bad, to ugly.
[00:17:53] >> Sad. Honestly, the first thing that I
[00:17:55] would say is that it makes me sad
[00:17:57] because obviously I spent a lot of time
[00:18:00] helping Trump get elected, trying to
[00:18:01] help Trump get elected and Trump is
[00:18:04] >> I see a photo right here. Yeah.
[00:18:05] >> Yeah. He's a part of my political story,
[00:18:07] right? A part of my political awakening.
[00:18:09] if you want to call it that. And it
[00:18:11] feels to me like when he said you what
[00:18:16] Epstein files, you know, are we still
[00:18:18] talking about the Epstein files? It was
[00:18:19] just like we were so close. We did
[00:18:21] everything we could and we were supposed
[00:18:24] to be fighting with Swamp and then what
[00:18:26] happened? What the Loch Ness monster,
[00:18:27] which is Israel, rose up and and
[00:18:30] swallowed our hero whole. So it makes me
[00:18:33] sad and I think we all can very clearly
[00:18:35] see what has happened on the basis of
[00:18:37] who is now supporting him. the literal
[00:18:39] never Trump movement
[00:18:41] >> is now supporting Trump
[00:18:42] >> and telling us that we're radicals. The
[00:18:44] people who initially supported Trump. So
[00:18:46] it's there's been a complete flip and
[00:18:48] they're trying to use this mechanism of
[00:18:49] psychology to convince us, oh, we just
[00:18:51] got here, but we noticed this rot, which
[00:18:53] is the original MAGA movement. It's
[00:18:54] completely ridiculous. Their tactics
[00:18:56] aren't working. But I think it also
[00:18:58] indicates to us that there is something
[00:19:02] very scary and sinister that is in DC,
[00:19:05] right? That turns good men like it like
[00:19:08] petrifies good men that go in maybe with
[00:19:10] the best of intentions. Um and then they
[00:19:13] see something else like what happens to
[00:19:14] these people? We don't know like where
[00:19:16] is I mean day in and day out
[00:19:20] Cash Patel and Dan were saying we're
[00:19:23] going to do this. We get to the FBI. Now
[00:19:25] they look petrified. They look
[00:19:26] petrified. Actually, there's nothing
[00:19:28] here actually to see about these Epstein
[00:19:29] files. What are you talking about? You
[00:19:31] kind of made your show off of what would
[00:19:34] need to happen with the Epstein files.
[00:19:36] So, it's sad.
[00:19:37] >> So, if you were to rate them, cuz people
[00:19:39] have asked me this question, so now you
[00:19:40] get to ask someone else. What grade
[00:19:42] would you give him right now at this
[00:19:43] point based on, you know, obviously the
[00:19:45] FC files, I agree with you. It's a huge
[00:19:47] debacle. It's going to probably be a
[00:19:49] huge um negative in his legacy at the
[00:19:52] end of the day. Mhm.
[00:19:53] >> Uh if you had to grade his presidency of
[00:19:55] so far within what we're 11 months in
[00:19:57] roughly, what would you say?
[00:19:58] >> So I would say I'm biased. So if you're
[00:19:59] asking me to grade, you know how you
[00:20:01] would have those teachers where if you
[00:20:03] you would take a test and they would
[00:20:04] automatically flunk you if you didn't
[00:20:05] put your name on the paper.
[00:20:06] >> Oh yeah.
[00:20:07] >> Yeah. The Epstein thing for me is like
[00:20:08] automatic flunk if you don't put your
[00:20:10] name on the paper, right? So like it's
[00:20:11] I'm a mom now. So this was the most
[00:20:14] important thing to me was figuring out
[00:20:15] where the pedophiles are in our society.
[00:20:18] And
[00:20:18] >> that was your number one voting
[00:20:19] >> that this for me like becoming a mother
[00:20:22] because
[00:20:23] >> you have to remember Epstein and I I did
[00:20:25] a partial series a minieries on what we
[00:20:29] discovered about him. His he just got
[00:20:30] pulled through the ranks, right?
[00:20:32] Bankrupted Americans. Same thing with
[00:20:34] the Maxwell family. Bankrupted people in
[00:20:36] England um and was allowed to do this.
[00:20:40] He had absolutely no background. He was
[00:20:41] given access to children. He had an
[00:20:43] office on Harvard campus despite only
[00:20:45] having a high school diploma, which I
[00:20:47] can't even verify his high school
[00:20:48] diploma if I'm being honest with you.
[00:20:50] And we were, this was going to show us
[00:20:53] everything. He had access to Hollywood.
[00:20:55] He was working with Weinstein. He had
[00:20:56] some notorious fight with Harvey
[00:20:58] Weinstein uh right before Harvey went
[00:21:00] down. So now I'm kind of going back in
[00:21:02] my mind and thinking that's a question I
[00:21:03] should probably ask Harvey Weinstein is
[00:21:05] what they were fighting about. And he
[00:21:08] had access to models. I mean, this man
[00:21:10] was just handed the keys to Les Wexner's
[00:21:12] empire, which even how that empire
[00:21:14] started has got a shady story with a guy
[00:21:16] who said that Les Wexner was a literal
[00:21:18] devil. He was the guy who controlled
[00:21:20] Victoria Secret. He said, "This man is
[00:21:22] evil." And then suddenly that guy jumps
[00:21:23] off the Golden Gate Bridge and decides
[00:21:25] to give his company to Les Wexner. That
[00:21:26] doesn't really make sense. So, we had
[00:21:28] this rare opportunity to really
[00:21:32] understand how the matrix was put
[00:21:33] together in my view. And Trump took us
[00:21:37] to this line and then bulked. And I'm
[00:21:40] not sure why he did. Okay. I don't Maybe
[00:21:43] it's because he almost survived his
[00:21:45] assassination attempt. He survived his
[00:21:46] assassination attempt.
[00:21:47] >> Yeah. Two of them.
[00:21:48] >> Two of them. And maybe they put him in a
[00:21:50] room and said, "Here's how it's going to
[00:21:52] go."
[00:21:52] >> Mhm.
[00:21:53] >> So, I tried not I'm going to try not to
[00:21:55] judge him because I don't know what he
[00:21:57] is going through. But for me, the
[00:21:59] Epstein files was a name on the paper.
[00:22:02] >> So, um, what are your thoughts on the
[00:22:03] current news? Cuz it just resurfaced
[00:22:04] again. They're, you know, in the process
[00:22:06] right now of getting everything
[00:22:07] classified. I understand that there were
[00:22:08] a bunch of emails that came out. Um, you
[00:22:11] know, and it's bring coming back up
[00:22:12] again. I can tell because I'm seeing
[00:22:13] nothing but CNN clips on it. Anytime
[00:22:16] they they love to uh hit Trump when it
[00:22:18] comes to this Epstein thing.
[00:22:19] >> Uh, what are your thoughts on the latest
[00:22:20] information that came out recently with
[00:22:22] the emails and everything else like
[00:22:23] that? When he initially bulked on
[00:22:26] discussing Epstein and Pam Bondi did the
[00:22:29] whole crazy bit, I was told that it was
[00:22:33] because there was donors he was
[00:22:35] protecting and that makes sense to me. I
[00:22:37] have never felt and I'm a pretty good
[00:22:40] vibe person Trump's not into kids,
[00:22:42] right?
[00:22:43] >> So the nature of the emails was he at a
[00:22:45] party when at People should just think
[00:22:48] about that. People say, "Oh, they
[00:22:50] exchang like he was on his plane." Never
[00:22:52] on the island, but like was on the plane
[00:22:54] or was at a party. If you were at a I
[00:22:56] mean, you live in Miami. If you were at
[00:22:57] a party, the idea that somebody could be
[00:23:00] at any club that you are at or any party
[00:23:02] that you are at has somebody that's
[00:23:03] underage and looks like she could be 18
[00:23:06] and that doesn't make that doesn't
[00:23:08] really track to me as any evidence of
[00:23:10] anything other than the fact um that he
[00:23:12] was at a party once and Jeffrey Epste
[00:23:14] was very clearly running uh a
[00:23:16] sophisticated network and a blackmail
[00:23:18] ring. Uh, so I don't think that whatever
[00:23:21] they have on Epstein with Trump and
[00:23:23] Epste is going to implicate Trump in any
[00:23:25] of that stuff. Yeah.
[00:23:26] >> And I've been around him. It just Trump
[00:23:28] has a type and I I have never felt that
[00:23:30] vibe from him at all.
[00:23:32] >> But I do think he's protecting um some
[00:23:35] of his owners. I do believe that cuz
[00:23:37] they I look at them and they just creep
[00:23:39] me out. And he took a lot of money from
[00:23:42] Miriam Adlesen, the Aden family,
[00:23:45] hundreds of millions of dollars from
[00:23:46] Miriam Aden. And I think that's kind of
[00:23:49] the beginning of everything. So when
[00:23:50] they started leaking these emails, I
[00:23:52] read it as like a public threat to him.
[00:23:55] Maybe they're arguing about something in
[00:23:56] the background and he's holding a line
[00:23:58] on something. So they because they
[00:24:00] obviously have all the Epstein stuff. He
[00:24:01] that he was their blackmail guy, you
[00:24:03] know, and so if people don't listen,
[00:24:06] they probably do a little trickle.
[00:24:08] That's how I read it. I read it as like
[00:24:10] a public threat and they want something
[00:24:11] from him and they're going to be like
[00:24:13] capitulate or we will hit you with
[00:24:15] everything they have and we need to have
[00:24:16] a leader that says just comes right out
[00:24:18] in a press conference and says they have
[00:24:21] this about me. They've been threatening
[00:24:23] me with it. I'm going to tell them to
[00:24:24] release everything and I'm going to hold
[00:24:25] the line. People would cheer. People
[00:24:27] would cheer. I wouldn't we wouldn't even
[00:24:28] care. We be like okay like as long as
[00:24:30] you're not implicated in harming
[00:24:32] children, right? Uh, I can deal with you
[00:24:35] being at a party that Epstein was at and
[00:24:37] finding out that whatever it is that
[00:24:39] they have on you. That's my that's my
[00:24:41] gut instinct about the whole thing.
[00:24:42] >> Yeah. No, I I I agree with you that I
[00:24:44] think I I don't he doesn't give me the
[00:24:45] the vibe that he's like a, you know,
[00:24:47] doing that type of thing with children.
[00:24:48] Um, but I do think that maybe there's
[00:24:51] something in there that looks really bad
[00:24:52] optically and that's might be why or to
[00:24:54] protect donors like you said cuz I look
[00:24:56] at it like if there was something really
[00:24:58] bad like that, the Democrats would have
[00:25:00] exposed that during the B administration
[00:25:02] if there really was. So, you know,
[00:25:04] that's that's another thing as well.
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[00:27:08] >> Um, speaking of the Zionist lobby, um,
[00:27:10] we're talking about Mir Medlesson and
[00:27:11] Pepsi and everything else like that.
[00:27:13] Last time we spoke, um, you were
[00:27:15] literally like a week or two before you
[00:27:17] left Daily Wire. Uh, it's been a while
[00:27:19] now. And obviously, a lot of things have
[00:27:20] transpired, right? Um, you've had a
[00:27:22] meteoric rise. Congratulations.
[00:27:24] Meanwhile, your opposition, Ben Shapiro,
[00:27:26] has had a meteoric downfall.
[00:27:29] Um, can you kind of take me through that
[00:27:31] day of what happened when um because I
[00:27:34] remember you had been in Miami for a bit
[00:27:36] and then I think you might have went
[00:27:37] back uh to Daily Wire for like a day or
[00:27:39] two and then they said, "Hey, we're
[00:27:40] going to get rid of you, blah blah
[00:27:41] blah." Can you kind of take me through
[00:27:42] how that all transpired and how you've
[00:27:44] been able to kind of use that
[00:27:46] cancellation from their perspective to
[00:27:48] just utterly destroy them and flip the
[00:27:50] roles?
[00:27:50] >> So, gosh, I was fired in what was it?
[00:27:53] March of 2024 and I obviously was very
[00:27:56] surprised about it. I did not know it
[00:27:57] was coming. I was look, even if I sensed
[00:28:01] it was coming, I would have never have
[00:28:02] thought that it would have happened in
[00:28:03] the way that it happened. I would have
[00:28:04] thought that we would do everything that
[00:28:06] we can to keep things friendly. I mean,
[00:28:09] you don't want to work for any company.
[00:28:10] It's just unprofessional to want to work
[00:28:12] to dedicate years of your life to any
[00:28:14] company and not have things even if
[00:28:15] they're not on great terms, you still
[00:28:17] want to make it as peaceful as possible.
[00:28:18] >> TMZ reported, I have to ask you this
[00:28:20] because I've always been want to ask you
[00:28:21] this. They reported that the reason, one
[00:28:24] of the reasons why they wanted to get
[00:28:25] rid of you is because you did the show
[00:28:27] with us and when we talked about Jews,
[00:28:29] we hit the sound effect, the chuch-ching
[00:28:30] sound effect and that I guess that
[00:28:31] infuriated Ben Shapiro. Is that true or
[00:28:34] >> I know that I know where that leak came
[00:28:37] from.
[00:28:37] >> Okay.
[00:28:38] >> And it it came gosh, am I allowed to say
[00:28:41] anything about this? She no longer works
[00:28:43] for the Daily Wire and I think she
[00:28:46] was behind that leak.
[00:28:48] >> Yeah. So, she no longer works for the
[00:28:50] Daily Wire. So that was interesting. I
[00:28:53] can neither confirm or deny whether or
[00:28:56] not that is true.
[00:28:57] >> Okay.
[00:28:57] >> Uh but what I will say is I would have
[00:28:59] never expected that sort of a PR. I mean
[00:29:02] it was just it's just the opposite of
[00:29:04] the way that I am. I mean I've worked
[00:29:06] with several companies. I worked with
[00:29:07] Prageru. I have obviously very a lot of
[00:29:10] disagreements with them now. But I had a
[00:29:12] very peaceful working relationship with
[00:29:13] them. They were they treated me
[00:29:14] fantastically. I've said this a thousand
[00:29:16] times. Like when I think about them now
[00:29:18] and what their contributions are to what
[00:29:20] we're fighting, like I could never go
[00:29:22] back and say like one bad word about how
[00:29:24] they treated me. They were they were
[00:29:25] really good employers and very
[00:29:27] communicative. I never had an issue. I
[00:29:29] mean, I think my contract with Prageru
[00:29:30] was like two pages. I'm not even
[00:29:32] kidding. It was crazy. She did I Marissa
[00:29:34] never even wanted to talk about
[00:29:35] contract. She's like, if we ever have to
[00:29:36] talk about the contract, she was like,
[00:29:37] you should probably leave cuz like I
[00:29:38] don't want you here if you're not happy.
[00:29:40] Yeah.
[00:29:40] >> Um obviously had a very great
[00:29:42] relationship with Charlie Kirk, Turning
[00:29:44] Point USA. So I for me having never had
[00:29:47] any sort of a tobacco ever in my life um
[00:29:50] in terms of working for people it was it
[00:29:54] was new it was global there was so much
[00:29:57] happening and I didn't know if we were
[00:29:59] going to survive it genuinely my husband
[00:30:02] and I it felt like you are just it's
[00:30:04] like trench warfare you're every move
[00:30:06] you're not even thinking about the
[00:30:07] implications it's like I just have to
[00:30:09] put one foot in front of the other and
[00:30:10] fight fight fight
[00:30:12] and I Um I I first and for just grateful
[00:30:16] to God, grateful to God that my husband
[00:30:20] was just rock solid. I think if my
[00:30:22] husband had shown even a fraction of
[00:30:26] apprehension, fear, anything, I probably
[00:30:29] would have come apart. And this again
[00:30:31] gets back to the importance of marriage
[00:30:33] cuz there there are things that men are
[00:30:34] designed to deal with. women are
[00:30:36] designed. Like I I was good on the on
[00:30:37] the psychology games of what they were
[00:30:39] trying to do, but in terms of just
[00:30:41] getting down in and building the
[00:30:43] infrastructure and like, okay, we need
[00:30:45] to rebuild the podcast. We got to do
[00:30:46] this. We got to figure this out. We
[00:30:49] laugh now. Um I mean, even cuz my team
[00:30:52] came with me, which was something that
[00:30:53] was also a huge blessing. I'm so
[00:30:55] grateful to my team cuz I went to them
[00:30:56] and I was like, I don't know if this is
[00:30:58] going to work. We can't offer you health
[00:31:00] insurance. We have we have nothing. So
[00:31:02] if you leave the comfort of where you
[00:31:04] are, you are taking a risk and we don't
[00:31:07] know where this thing is going to end.
[00:31:08] And also we're like being banned from
[00:31:10] society. So the chances of this podcast
[00:31:12] working when we're banned from
[00:31:13] everywhere. Uh even YouTube demonetized
[00:31:16] us, it was slim to none. And they took
[00:31:18] they were just like we're we're coming
[00:31:20] with you. So
[00:31:21] >> to look back on that, it's just a
[00:31:24] tremendous amount of gratitude and
[00:31:26] appreciation for the audience, my team,
[00:31:29] and first and foremost, my husband, you
[00:31:31] know. So he helped you through that
[00:31:32] through that process cuz yeah I remember
[00:31:34] like it was all over the place and you
[00:31:36] know obviously there was enormous amount
[00:31:37] of pressure but you were able to use
[00:31:38] that to your favor. You get let go from
[00:31:40] Daily Wire. You start up your own thing
[00:31:42] and you know obviously this topic is a
[00:31:44] very controversial topic when it comes
[00:31:46] to Zionism, Jewish power and these other
[00:31:48] things. Um and it led to some things.
[00:31:51] What is
[00:31:52] what redpilled you on this topic that
[00:31:54] made you say I got to speak up even
[00:31:56] though this is a very taboo topic. you
[00:31:57] could get, you know, like you said, deal
[00:31:58] with demonetization, cancellation,
[00:32:00] losing an employer. What made you say,
[00:32:03] "I got to speak up on this."
[00:32:04] >> I want to get into heaven. And I think
[00:32:06] people don't realize that that's real.
[00:32:09] Like, I think people who are atheists
[00:32:12] don't understand that a part of this
[00:32:14] whole psych operation was to make you an
[00:32:17] atheist. Because if you knew for certain
[00:32:19] that when you die there is more, which
[00:32:21] there is, you would be living your life
[00:32:23] differently, right? You want I want to
[00:32:25] get into heaven. And so at the very
[00:32:28] moment that I know anything is true, I
[00:32:31] can't tell a lie, right? So when I was
[00:32:34] working as and giving the example again
[00:32:36] for Prageru, I genuinely first off
[00:32:38] wasn't up on the topic of Israel. It
[00:32:40] wasn't kind of a common discussion.
[00:32:41] There was no pressure on me to get out
[00:32:44] there and say things that are pro-
[00:32:45] Israel. I just genuinely believed it in
[00:32:47] the same way that I tell people Charlie
[00:32:48] Kirk just believed it. There was
[00:32:49] nothing. There's no conspiracy. He just
[00:32:50] was like, "Yeah, Israel. I'm a Christian
[00:32:53] and uh obviously
[00:32:56] Israel has biblical um connotations and
[00:32:59] so I I'm I support Israel almost like
[00:33:01] it's like periphery."
[00:33:02] >> Yeah. It's like when you're in the
[00:33:04] default setting literally. Yeah. In the
[00:33:06] factory setting and people who who
[00:33:08] attack that and assume that everyone's
[00:33:10] on an agenda should stop doing that.
[00:33:12] >> At the moment that it kind of became a
[00:33:15] and I would say after October 7th they
[00:33:16] were kind of demanding that you take a
[00:33:18] side. I watched Bassam Yousef. This this
[00:33:22] was truly the mental turning point for
[00:33:25] me. He went on to Piers Morgan and it
[00:33:26] went viral and he held up this paper
[00:33:29] where he showed how many deaths there
[00:33:31] were every year of Palestinians versus
[00:33:33] Israelis and I I will never unsee that.
[00:33:37] And he was being totally
[00:33:39] a jackass about it was just kind of
[00:33:42] using humor which is the best tool and
[00:33:44] being like so what's the equation of how
[00:33:46] many lives are worth? So I'm going,
[00:33:48] okay, so I'm supposed to believe these
[00:33:49] are the evil people, but this is how
[00:33:51] many people. And then I had Norm
[00:33:53] Finkelestein on my show at the Daily
[00:33:55] Wire because I was like, let me go to
[00:33:57] someone who actually is not an
[00:33:59] anti-semite, right? His parents survived
[00:34:01] the Holocaust and he's a professor who
[00:34:04] was denied tenure for a ridiculous
[00:34:05] reason because he's committed to telling
[00:34:07] the truth about Gaza and he wrote so
[00:34:08] many books on it. And that to me was
[00:34:11] like, wow. So that like red pill you on
[00:34:13] the topic like seeing the deaths and
[00:34:15] everything cuz no one ever sees like the
[00:34:16] Palestinian perspective cuz it's like
[00:34:18] almost like in America well especially
[00:34:19] if you're a conservative the default
[00:34:21] setting is we support Israel
[00:34:22] unequivocally every single time and you
[00:34:24] never even hear the other perspective.
[00:34:26] So uh and I've said that too like
[00:34:27] October 7th kind of opened up this
[00:34:29] discussion whereas like I remember
[00:34:30] before it like if you talked about it
[00:34:32] you would get demonetized banned. That's
[00:34:33] what got me demonetized was was that
[00:34:35] topic especially before October 7th. So
[00:34:39] you start talking about it. I remember
[00:34:40] you had debated uh a rabbi I forget I
[00:34:42] can't remember his name
[00:34:43] >> a couple of them rabbi there was Rabbi
[00:34:45] Schmoolie and then there was that idiot
[00:34:47] >> who was oh gosh I got I have to remember
[00:34:48] his name he was my favorite Candice
[00:34:51] this is the worst anti-semitism he
[00:34:53] actually was lowkey my favorite cuz he
[00:34:55] was so over the top
[00:34:58] >> he was so over the top and he was like
[00:35:01] you can't even say what was it witches
[00:35:03] Skyler what was the name of that rabbi
[00:35:05] Barlay Rabbi Barlay that was his name
[00:35:07] >> and I think that was one of your last um
[00:35:09] debates you did on Daily Wire, too. I
[00:35:11] think you were still on the Daily Wire
[00:35:12] there. Did Ben ever like have a
[00:35:13] conversation with you about this? If you
[00:35:15] could disclose it, like he just like
[00:35:16] never talked to you in person about
[00:35:18] this. He just like trashed you at
[00:35:21] >> cuz I remember seeing a clip of him like
[00:35:22] at some type of social gathering like
[00:35:25] late in the year of that year saying,
[00:35:27] "Oh yeah, I think what she's doing is,
[00:35:28] you know, despicable, blah, blah, blah."
[00:35:29] But he had never had a conversation with
[00:35:30] you.
[00:35:31] >> No. And after that, we never had a
[00:35:33] conversation.
[00:35:34] >> Wow. So that was that happened and
[00:35:37] that's uh we never had a private we
[00:35:39] never had a conversation after that. So
[00:35:41] >> So he didn't even have the decency to
[00:35:43] like figure out hey you know what's
[00:35:45] going on here have a conversation.
[00:35:46] You're just like
[00:35:48] >> I tried uh it never happened. So
[00:35:50] >> Wow. Okay. Um so
[00:35:54] so you got banned from Australia,
[00:35:57] >> right? you got banned from Australia and
[00:35:59] >> a gangster and I was like you know
[00:36:01] >> super bad
[00:36:02] >> cuz I I tal people try to tell me like
[00:36:04] um you know because I talk about world
[00:36:06] jewelry being a thing and how you know
[00:36:08] it's a international cabal that works
[00:36:10] together you know for the betterment of
[00:36:11] of Israel and they're located all across
[00:36:13] the world and I use that example of how
[00:36:14] they got you literally banned in
[00:36:15] Australia even though they represent
[00:36:16] like 2% of the population.
[00:36:19] How did that even happen? Like how did
[00:36:20] you get notified
[00:36:22] like yeah how'd that even come about? I
[00:36:25] was gonna tour in Australia and the
[00:36:28] Zionist lobby found out and they
[00:36:30] publicly posted it was like the Zionist
[00:36:32] organization of Australia. Maybe it was
[00:36:33] Zoa publicly posted this thing
[00:36:36] >> like they're equivalent of Apac, right?
[00:36:37] Essentially.
[00:36:38] >> Yeah. It's another Apac. There's so many
[00:36:41] of Zionist organizations. And I will say
[00:36:43] on the conservative like side of
[00:36:46] Australia, the Jewish conservatives did
[00:36:49] also write a letter in support of me
[00:36:51] saying like we disagree with her, but
[00:36:52] she should be allowed to speak. But they
[00:36:55] were effectively the ADL and they posted
[00:36:58] this thing and publicly said that I
[00:37:00] should not be allowed in. My my rhetoric
[00:37:03] was dangerous. They lied and said that I
[00:37:05] said that Jews what did they say that I
[00:37:08] said that Jews drink the blood of
[00:37:10] children which was it's just like
[00:37:12] completely
[00:37:15] >> it was unbelievable. I mean the way that
[00:37:16] that came about was me liking a tweet
[00:37:19] literally a like of a tweet of a person
[00:37:21] who called out Rabbi Schmoolie and said
[00:37:24] Rabbi had told a huge lie about me. So
[00:37:26] they were replying to Rabbi Schmoolie
[00:37:28] and said you didn't include that she and
[00:37:32] then like told the truth about what I
[00:37:33] said and then they ended their thing
[00:37:35] with are you drunk on Christian blood
[00:37:37] again. So me liking this tweet they went
[00:37:40] full they went full media press C. I
[00:37:43] just unbelievable. Candace says I'm like
[00:37:45] are you kidding me? It was so obvious
[00:37:47] why I liked this tweet. Like this person
[00:37:48] debunked Rabbi Mo's lie. But this is how
[00:37:50] they lie. This is how they lie.
[00:37:52] >> Um
[00:37:52] >> and they take everything literal litally
[00:37:55] or whatever. Oh, look at you. Vile
[00:37:56] anti-semite.
[00:37:57] >> Yeah. And I'm like obviously I like this
[00:37:59] because he defended like he pointed out
[00:38:01] that Rabbi really told a ridiculous lie
[00:38:03] that had nothing to do with anything.
[00:38:04] >> Yeah. He said that I my followers
[00:38:06] threatened to kill him or something.
[00:38:07] Something very serious. And he was like,
[00:38:09] "You're showing this inbox."
[00:38:10] >> Did he sue? Didn't he try to sue you for
[00:38:11] that?
[00:38:12] >> No, he threatened to sue.
[00:38:14] >> And so yeah, it was quite a time. But
[00:38:18] they successfully got me banned. I've
[00:38:19] never been in trouble, nothing. and they
[00:38:22] decided that I am too dangerous to speak
[00:38:24] in their country. So that I still think
[00:38:28] and this has been my belief everything
[00:38:31] that is happening God wants to happen.
[00:38:32] So when that happened it was because
[00:38:34] Australians needed to understand
[00:38:36] something about their country
[00:38:38] >> because people who didn't like me who
[00:38:40] didn't support me or weren't
[00:38:42] conservative in their country kind of
[00:38:43] looked up and went this like mom of four
[00:38:46] being banned from our country. No matter
[00:38:48] what I think about her, I certainly
[00:38:50] don't think she's a threat, that she
[00:38:51] shouldn't be allowed in. Like she and
[00:38:52] we've got literally people who have been
[00:38:55] accused of murder, people who have
[00:38:57] violated their visas in other countries,
[00:38:59] people that rap about murder are allowed
[00:39:01] in here. And you're telling me she's
[00:39:03] saying something that's so dangerous and
[00:39:05] it I think contributed to pe more people
[00:39:07] listening to my podcast. What is she
[00:39:09] saying? So I do feel we are in this time
[00:39:13] where the more that they lie it rebounds
[00:39:17] very quickly onto them and it creates
[00:39:19] more pressure against them and they
[00:39:20] can't stop lying. So
[00:39:22] >> yeah, cuz you you can never lie once,
[00:39:24] right? Like they always say when you lie
[00:39:25] once, then you have to keep lying to
[00:39:27] perpetuate that same lie,
[00:39:29] >> right?
[00:39:29] >> So New Zealand also banned you, right?
[00:39:31] And then you were able to get How did
[00:39:32] you go about uh being allowed to come
[00:39:34] back to New Zealand? Did they write a
[00:39:36] petition or how?
[00:39:37] >> Actually, no, actually their person So
[00:39:39] they have a reciprocal system, which is
[00:39:40] weird, but if Australia bans you, you
[00:39:43] get automatically banned in in New
[00:39:44] Zealand. So New Zealand didn't actually
[00:39:46] ban me. Tony Burke in Australia banned
[00:39:48] me and they have some weird reciprocal
[00:39:49] system. Then when they found out their
[00:39:52] minister and his name was was Chris
[00:39:54] something I should remember it was like
[00:39:56] I'm just against this and he reversed
[00:39:57] it.
[00:39:58] >> Gotcha. He had the power to reverse it.
[00:40:00] So New Zealand actually stood firm on on
[00:40:02] free speech.
[00:40:03] >> I didn't know that. So like basically
[00:40:05] when one party does something the other
[00:40:06] one kind of reciprocates it. But they do
[00:40:08] have some type of veto power. What other
[00:40:10] ways I guess has the Zionist lobby came
[00:40:12] after you? I've seen ADL articles. I've
[00:40:13] seen SPLC right. They target me too.
[00:40:15] >> Oh gosh it was everything. It was
[00:40:17] everything. They
[00:40:19] >> did they allow to get you demonetized on
[00:40:20] YouTube too?
[00:40:21] >> Absolutely. That came from the awesome
[00:40:23] Jew.
[00:40:23] >> Yep.
[00:40:24] >> Uh the awesome Jew who was in attendance
[00:40:26] by the way when Charlie got peer
[00:40:27] pressure in the Hamptons
[00:40:29] >> and yeah was just a full court. They
[00:40:32] were like just start report mass
[00:40:34] reporting her for violence and violent
[00:40:37] rhetoric and they did that and then I
[00:40:39] got I had no strikes and then I went to
[00:40:41] all strikes overnight and YouTube
[00:40:43] demonetized us. We were demonetized for
[00:40:45] 6 months. I think
[00:40:47] >> it was like September maybe it was 4
[00:40:49] months and so that was you can't make
[00:40:53] any money on YouTube. So we had to then
[00:40:56] >> yeah we had to then build our own
[00:40:59] website which we did. So what it forces
[00:41:01] you to do is kind of to become your own
[00:41:03] power center right if you ban people
[00:41:05] everywhere and you say you can't you
[00:41:06] know you're not allowed to fight in this
[00:41:08] realm we're going to start building our
[00:41:09] own realms. And I think they're learning
[00:41:10] that lesson is that there seems to be
[00:41:12] the opposite thing that's happening. So
[00:41:15] they yeah they would attack us on
[00:41:16] YouTube. They obviously got petitioned
[00:41:19] to get me fired, banned from Australia.
[00:41:21] They went after like my family members
[00:41:24] obviously. They tried to pretend that
[00:41:27] there was all this friction between me
[00:41:28] and my husband's father and that could
[00:41:30] not be further from the truth. Uh he I
[00:41:33] love my husband's family. They they have
[00:41:35] always treated me very well. But they
[00:41:36] wanted that narrative out there because
[00:41:37] it was part of the cancellation is even
[00:41:39] the her own family hates her.
[00:41:42] >> No, we have different viewpoints. People
[00:41:44] can support Israel, people can not
[00:41:46] support Israel. You don't marry into
[00:41:47] ideas.
[00:41:48] >> Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course.
[00:41:50] Nothing wrong with having disagreements,
[00:41:51] >> right? And
[00:41:53] I just think whatever what else they
[00:41:54] attacked, it's it's just it's been
[00:41:56] non-stop. And then of course the
[00:41:57] lawsuits, you know, non-stop legal law.
[00:42:00] >> So right now, um you know, between you,
[00:42:04] Tucker, Nick, uh they're attacking all
[00:42:07] three of you guys saying, "Oh, you guys
[00:42:08] are anti-semites and you guys are
[00:42:10] pushing this whole thing." thing and I
[00:42:11] and I give credit because you three have
[00:42:13] done an incredible job of, you know,
[00:42:15] awareing the American public on this
[00:42:17] topic uh when it comes to Israel's
[00:42:19] control of the Middle East, what they're
[00:42:20] doing over there, how they've been able
[00:42:21] to get away with this for so long,
[00:42:22] killing people and no one knowing and
[00:42:25] you know, they've been targeting you
[00:42:26] guys quite a bit. Uh, and I see that,
[00:42:29] you know, there's been a bunch of drama
[00:42:30] with Megan Kelly and Ben Shapiro and
[00:42:33] everything else like that. What are your
[00:42:34] thoughts on the entire on on the
[00:42:36] situation? Cuz like you know anytime
[00:42:37] they mention Tucker, you were right
[00:42:38] there, right? When it comes to the
[00:42:39] criticism of Israel.
[00:42:41] >> Yeah. Even BBnet and Yahoo namechecking
[00:42:43] us was crazy on the Tik Tok thing and
[00:42:45] why they needed to buy Tik Tok. They're
[00:42:48] letting you know this is a psychological
[00:42:49] operation. That's what they're telling
[00:42:50] you. They've gone masked down and it
[00:42:53] just they they've just come more inward.
[00:42:56] I have no idea why they kept attaching
[00:42:57] you to Tucker Carlson. They wanted both
[00:42:59] of us gone and they
[00:43:01] >> Mark loves you.
[00:43:02] >> They Yeah, I know.
[00:43:04] They forcefired Tucker. They forcefired
[00:43:07] me. And then they realized, oh, we don't
[00:43:08] we can't control them. And we started
[00:43:11] having to build our own power centers.
[00:43:13] And they didn't like that.
[00:43:14] >> Made you guys bigger.
[00:43:15] >> Exactly. So, and then with the Nick
[00:43:17] Fuentes thing, I promise you, I had
[00:43:19] never heard the Nick Fuentes backstory
[00:43:21] until after I was fired from Daily Wire.
[00:43:23] There was this
[00:43:26] Twitter audio or ex audio space that he
[00:43:28] did with Jeremy Boring, who at that time
[00:43:30] was the CEO of Daily Wire. And I heard
[00:43:32] the back story. I was like, "This is
[00:43:34] insane." Like, "What happened to him?"
[00:43:35] Nobody can look at that backstory of
[00:43:37] what happened to him and not realize
[00:43:39] that it was just evil.
[00:43:40] >> They did everything they can to contain
[00:43:42] him. It's ridiculous.
[00:43:42] >> This is like he he was had his life
[00:43:44] ahead of him. And so, you kind of root
[00:43:46] you root for that. You're like, "No
[00:43:48] matter how I feel about him, I root for
[00:43:51] him against the Zionist lobby." And this
[00:43:54] rule that you can't speak to Nick. Why
[00:43:56] can't I speak to Nick? Can't my audience
[00:43:58] decide whether or not they want to
[00:43:59] listen to him? There's this false idea
[00:44:00] of platforming him that somehow that's
[00:44:03] going to be harmful and you you can't
[00:44:06] platform him. If I platform him and Nick
[00:44:11] seems likable, right, and then he goes
[00:44:13] on his show and he says horrific things
[00:44:15] and my listeners then go over to his
[00:44:17] show, they're not going to keep
[00:44:18] listening to Nick. Yeah.
[00:44:19] >> They're actually then going to have
[00:44:20] questions about me.
[00:44:21] >> Yeah. Let the people decide.
[00:44:22] >> Let the people decide. You don't get to
[00:44:24] think for people. There's no such thing
[00:44:25] as platforming ideas. If people are
[00:44:28] following that idea, that is on the
[00:44:30] people. Um, and they are smart enough to
[00:44:32] make their own decisions. I don't need
[00:44:33] to tell people to listen to Nick, to not
[00:44:35] listen to Nick, to platform Nick, to not
[00:44:37] platform Nick. If I want to talk to
[00:44:38] Nick, I'll talk to Nick. If I don't want
[00:44:39] to talk to Nick, I don't talk to Nick.
[00:44:41] And there's something about the true
[00:44:42] free markets that Zionists can't stand.
[00:44:45] They're constantly manipulating the
[00:44:46] markets so that people think that they
[00:44:48] are number one, and they're not. They
[00:44:50] actually require censorship in order for
[00:44:52] them to be number one.
[00:44:54] >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's their game. and
[00:44:55] and you know I seeing Ben Shapiro have a
[00:44:58] meltdown and you know they had the
[00:45:00] Republican Jewish coalition a couple
[00:45:01] weeks ago and just saying like oh these
[00:45:03] people are platforming whatever I find
[00:45:05] it interesting how like they never like
[00:45:08] cuz when you guys if you actually listen
[00:45:09] to the interviews that you guys do a lot
[00:45:10] of the times it's like oh this makes
[00:45:12] perfect sense I understand like why you
[00:45:13] have this worldview they never criticize
[00:45:15] what you guys talk about right they
[00:45:17] always criticize you guys directly
[00:45:18] saying they're pushing anti-semitism
[00:45:19] what are they saying that's anti-semitic
[00:45:21] oh well it's just anti-semitic and they
[00:45:23] don't even want to have the discussion
[00:45:24] to debate the truth for anything. Yeah.
[00:45:26] >> Yeah. Cuz when you hear Nick Fentes's
[00:45:27] backtory, it's compelling. It just is. I
[00:45:29] was compelled when I heard it. I
[00:45:30] actually haven't gotten around to
[00:45:31] watching his interview with Tucker. It's
[00:45:33] on my to-do list this weekend, but I'm
[00:45:34] assuming he told his backstory. And then
[00:45:36] people look at it and go, "What is up
[00:45:39] with the Zionist lobby that they're
[00:45:40] going after 18-year-old kids for
[00:45:42] questioning Israel?" That's actually
[00:45:44] what they're fearful of is people
[00:45:46] understanding just how long this has
[00:45:48] been going on. uh how vicious it is that
[00:45:51] it will even go after an 18-year-old
[00:45:53] who's just asking questions literally.
[00:45:56] And yeah, I think that's what it is.
[00:45:58] It's the mass awakening that's
[00:46:00] happening.
[00:46:00] >> Yeah. No, and and you know, I credit
[00:46:03] you, Tucker, Nick, some of the biggest
[00:46:05] voices in it, like waking people up to
[00:46:07] this problem that we've had for so long,
[00:46:08] right? I mean, it got us into wars. And
[00:46:10] I do think that we're making an impact
[00:46:12] on it because when I remember when Trump
[00:46:14] bombed Iran, he had a lot of pressure on
[00:46:16] him not to do it, right? and he was like
[00:46:18] kind of going back and forth. I know
[00:46:20] Steve Bannon had like went to the White
[00:46:21] House and told him don't do it or at
[00:46:22] least push it off a little bit and he
[00:46:24] bombed him and then he ended it there,
[00:46:25] right? Who knows if you know if he
[00:46:27] didn't have that pressure from his base
[00:46:29] to not go to war if he had would have
[00:46:30] expanded the conflict cuz we know Israel
[00:46:32] wanted to, right? If this was like 2003,
[00:46:34] who knows if we would have just gone
[00:46:35] into like a full-on war. But I think big
[00:46:38] voices in social media that we didn't
[00:46:39] have back in 03 were able to kind of
[00:46:41] pressure like, "Hey, you we voted for no
[00:46:42] wars like and then it kind of forced
[00:46:44] them to be like I want to keep the base.
[00:46:46] All right, just bomb them and get out of
[00:46:47] here. Because that was even very
[00:46:48] unpopular.
[00:46:49] >> And then you saw the neocons go, oh, you
[00:46:51] were you were panickins. It was just
[00:46:52] going to be in the whole time you guys
[00:46:53] were just panicking and it was just one
[00:46:55] response. You thought there was going to
[00:46:56] be a broader war. And John Miller put it
[00:46:58] quite succinctly on he tweeted and he
[00:47:01] said, "No, it's because we panicked and
[00:47:04] freaked out that this didn't happen."
[00:47:05] This is like saying robbers outside
[00:47:08] trying to rob your house. Your dogs
[00:47:10] start barking and the robber goes away
[00:47:12] and they're like, "Oh, you were just
[00:47:13] panicking." It's like, no, it's because
[00:47:14] the dogs were barking that this thing
[00:47:16] didn't happen. So, no, every time we you
[00:47:19] are, which by the way, he still wants he
[00:47:21] still wants his war with Iran. They
[00:47:23] still want a regime change in Iran. And
[00:47:24] we have to continue to bark and continue
[00:47:26] to say that it's not okay. And it worked
[00:47:29] because we held the line on it and use
[00:47:30] our platforms to say this is like this
[00:47:32] is the red line.
[00:47:33] >> Yeah. No wars. And and he he literally
[00:47:36] was very ambiguous about it for days.
[00:47:38] So, and I think a big part of that is
[00:47:39] from all the pressure from his base with
[00:47:41] people that have big platforms. And this
[00:47:42] is kind of a beautiful thing where we
[00:47:44] have with alternative media cuz I
[00:47:45] remember and you you remember too are
[00:47:47] right around the same age. The Iraq war
[00:47:48] there was no descent. We're going and
[00:47:50] nobody cares and we don't you know there
[00:47:52] was no no one else talking about it. The
[00:47:53] news was super pro war. Everyone wanted
[00:47:55] to go to war and it wasn't until 101 15
[00:47:57] years later that the smoke evaporated.
[00:47:59] We're like oh this was a waste of time.
[00:48:01] Why do we go to Islam has nothing to do
[00:48:02] with bin Laden. Like it didn't make
[00:48:04] sense.
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[00:49:15] >> So, let me ask you about I guess real
[00:49:18] quick with Harvey Weinstein. What what
[00:49:19] had you what got you interested in like
[00:49:20] getting his story out there?
[00:49:22] >> So, actually I started working on the
[00:49:23] Harvey Weinstein documentary when I was
[00:49:25] at the Daily Wire, which Yeah. So they
[00:49:27] he somebody on his team reached out to
[00:49:29] me cuz they thought that I would be the
[00:49:31] only person that would look at this
[00:49:32] fairly
[00:49:33] >> which is interesting because obviously
[00:49:35] he and I and he's gave millions to the
[00:49:37] ADL. You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:39] >> So we were this very unlikely duo and I
[00:49:41] thought he was guilty. I thought there
[00:49:43] had to have been some guilt. I mean
[00:49:44] there were so many women that were
[00:49:45] coming out. But this is how the media is
[00:49:47] effective at psychology is that they
[00:49:48] know if they say something over and over
[00:49:50] again it becomes true. And actually I
[00:49:51] realized I didn't know anything about
[00:49:52] the case. And when I took a look at it I
[00:49:55] was shocked. There is no question that
[00:49:56] Harvey Weinstein should not be in prison
[00:49:58] right now. And that
[00:50:00] >> that's the definition of me too right
[00:50:01] there.
[00:50:02] >> Yeah, they took him out.
[00:50:03] >> Yeah.
[00:50:03] >> Who took him out, why they took him out,
[00:50:05] that part still is not clear to me. But
[00:50:07] it should terrify any woman, especially
[00:50:09] me who has three sons that they can do
[00:50:12] that. I think me too, what it
[00:50:13] represented was hostile takeovers of
[00:50:15] comp of companies. That's kind of a
[00:50:17] theme, right? If you start to go back,
[00:50:19] you look at from Michael Jackson to
[00:50:22] Kanye to Britney Spears, these are
[00:50:25] hostile takeovers of companies. And I
[00:50:27] think me too was a proliferation where
[00:50:29] they hostily took over a bunch of
[00:50:31] companies. And that's that's my instinct
[00:50:33] about it. And he was big. So maybe he
[00:50:36] wasn't playing ball. I actually do now
[00:50:38] have it on my mind that I want to ask
[00:50:40] him about this argument he had with
[00:50:41] Jeffrey Epsteine that I learned about.
[00:50:44] I was very passionate about just telling
[00:50:47] the truth cuz the me too movement is
[00:50:48] problematic. I like have a real
[00:50:50] investment in this. I have sons. So I
[00:50:53] don't care what people think or need to
[00:50:56] think. I'm not voting for him be my
[00:50:58] husband. I'm not voting for him to be
[00:50:59] the president of the United States. I'm
[00:51:00] not voting for him to be my pastor. I'm
[00:51:02] telling you that he was accused of
[00:51:04] something and the media completely lied
[00:51:06] to you about the circumstances. And it
[00:51:09] should terrify you because it means that
[00:51:11] our courts are corrupted. And they are.
[00:51:13] We know that. We know our courts are
[00:51:14] corrupted. Why? Maybe through the same
[00:51:17] system of blackmail. You've got judge,
[00:51:18] they've got judges in their pockets, but
[00:51:20] there is um that's a part of the matrix.
[00:51:22] The court system is a part of it.
[00:51:24] >> And I give you credit because, you know,
[00:51:25] you've uh you're very brave for doing
[00:51:27] that because just like with the George
[00:51:28] Floyd documentary that you did, which
[00:51:30] was going against the grain, right? Uh a
[00:51:33] lot of people gave you, you know, slack
[00:51:34] for that like, oh, why are you
[00:51:35] interviewing this, you know, pervert and
[00:51:37] why are you going ahead and, you know,
[00:51:39] trying to destroy the legacy of George
[00:51:40] Floyd? So, you know, I give you a lot of
[00:51:42] credit for like cuz I do think that this
[00:51:44] whole like, you know, me too situation
[00:51:46] and false accusations. It's very real.
[00:51:48] It matters. You know, athletes and
[00:51:50] professionals are constantly getting
[00:51:51] accused of stuff. I mean, we can look at
[00:51:52] what's going on with Andrew Tate where,
[00:51:54] you know, it's like every other month,
[00:51:56] you know, something is getting dropped
[00:51:57] or a lawsuit is being dropped here or
[00:51:59] they're finding out that this woman lied
[00:52:00] here or the there was a I think a pro
[00:52:02] soccer player that recently got out
[00:52:04] after having his life destroyed. So,
[00:52:06] >> like this me too thing is a huge problem
[00:52:08] in the in the Western world. Um, so let
[00:52:11] me ask you this w with uh Charlie Kirk
[00:52:13] because uh you're definitely one of the
[00:52:15] most outspoken people um when it comes
[00:52:17] to the Charlie Kirk investigation and
[00:52:20] what's going on there. Obviously you
[00:52:21] knew him personally. You guys have
[00:52:23] worked together for many years. Um I'll
[00:52:25] kind of just turn it to you and you can
[00:52:26] just tell me cuz you've been looking at
[00:52:27] this for a while now. It's almost two
[00:52:29] Yeah, it's over two months now. Um can
[00:52:31] you take us through what you think
[00:52:34] happened on that day? What led you to
[00:52:36] believe that? and uh the timeline in
[00:52:38] general and who you think is actually
[00:52:39] responsible uh you know who might be
[00:52:41] covering things up and everything like
[00:52:43] that.
[00:52:44] >> Yeah. So I can tell you that I view the
[00:52:48] Charlie Crick assassination as a
[00:52:49] military hit. I do not know who called
[00:52:53] the hit yet, but it's it's military.
[00:52:55] There's no question in my mind that it
[00:52:57] was a military. Well, I think I don't
[00:52:59] view the US military as
[00:53:03] being controlled by the US. I mean
[00:53:05] there's there are a lot of people you
[00:53:08] can we've been globalized for a very
[00:53:10] long time. Um I don't know that there's
[00:53:12] a difference in there's decisions that
[00:53:14] are made in Ukraine for America. I mean
[00:53:17] this is the tentacles of the US military
[00:53:21] >> um is a much broader and longer
[00:53:23] conversation that needs to be had. I
[00:53:24] mean I think since JFK was assassin I
[00:53:26] don't know who's in control of anything
[00:53:27] right? Much of what we see in the
[00:53:30] political realm is just an illusion.
[00:53:31] We're talking about what's happening in
[00:53:32] Congress and decisions are made in
[00:53:34] boardrooms. In my view with Charlie, I
[00:53:38] think that with everything that I have
[00:53:41] uncovered, there was very clearly an a
[00:53:44] faith infiltration that happened. And
[00:53:46] I'm I'm putting
[00:53:48] faith in quotation marks because Charlie
[00:53:52] would have believed the people that came
[00:53:54] to him and told him to grow the
[00:53:55] organization and, you know, to become
[00:53:57] the boots on the ground for faith. He
[00:53:59] cared very deeply about his faith and
[00:54:02] the characters, the cast of characters
[00:54:04] and the pastors that are are around him
[00:54:07] rotten, like very rotten. The McCoys,
[00:54:10] Rob McCoy, unbelievably rotten. And I've
[00:54:13] been covering a lot with him. And what
[00:54:16] it's looking like is that that Calvary
[00:54:19] Chapel uh has been accused of tons in
[00:54:22] the past and also accused of hostily
[00:54:25] taking over uh well-meaning faith
[00:54:27] organizations and ministries. Uh with
[00:54:30] Rob McCoy at the center of these of some
[00:54:32] of these scandals, it's looking to me
[00:54:35] like Turning Point's apparatus provided
[00:54:39] an opportunity. Now, who they're
[00:54:41] actually working for, what they're
[00:54:42] actually doing, I don't know.
[00:54:45] But I can tell you it is not about Jesus
[00:54:47] Christ. Okay.
[00:54:48] >> Okay.
[00:54:49] >> And this would explain why for some
[00:54:52] unknown reason Christian Zionist
[00:54:54] influencers have been losing their minds
[00:54:58] about the idea of investigating the
[00:55:00] Charlie Kirk assassination. It's odd.
[00:55:02] Like I looked up and I'm going, why are
[00:55:04] Christian Zionists trying to use Bible
[00:55:06] verses to say that we shouldn't question
[00:55:08] anything? I mean, everybody knows you
[00:55:10] were a cop. The first thing you do when
[00:55:12] there's been a murder is to look around
[00:55:15] at the money, the finances, and the
[00:55:17] people around him. Common sense. Common
[00:55:20] sense. Like, and then you pair that with
[00:55:24] the actual impossible things that they
[00:55:27] are telling us. It was a Christian
[00:55:29] miracle. His neck just stopped a 30 odd
[00:55:32] six from 150 yards away. It was a It was
[00:55:35] just your your modern Christian miracle.
[00:55:38] You know, that's fed slop, but it's
[00:55:41] worse than that. It's Christian slop.
[00:55:43] People using the Bible to
[00:55:45] psychologically convince you. You know,
[00:55:47] there Jesus performed miracles, and this
[00:55:49] was just one of them. Charlie loved his
[00:55:50] faith.
[00:55:52] They're lying about weird stuff. I I I
[00:55:54] consider it a clue that they are lying
[00:55:57] about where Charlie was at in terms of
[00:55:59] his faith journey. They lied about the
[00:56:01] Hampton Summit. They um lied about the
[00:56:05] fact that he had said, "I have no choice
[00:56:07] but to abandon the pro-Israel cause." I
[00:56:09] just watched them all lie because I
[00:56:10] needed to see where all the stakes were.
[00:56:12] These are weird lies.
[00:56:13] >> Yeah.
[00:56:14] >> The one thing that connects all of these
[00:56:16] lies is faith. So that's where the focus
[00:56:20] of my investigation is right now. And
[00:56:22] I'm coming up looking and going, "All of
[00:56:23] these characters are dirty that were
[00:56:25] around him. So, you're not going to hold
[00:56:28] up a Bible like a false prophet and tell
[00:56:31] me not to look here or else I'm going to
[00:56:33] be condemned to hell. Because let me
[00:56:34] tell you how the Bible works, okay?
[00:56:36] Christ is king. What that means is truth
[00:56:38] is king. And if anybody is using the
[00:56:40] Bible to tell you not to pursue truth,
[00:56:42] you are dealing with somebody who is
[00:56:45] manipulating you.
[00:56:46] >> Who do you think I guess I know you said
[00:56:49] the people around them, but who do you
[00:56:50] think is the most responsible? Why would
[00:56:51] they want him gone? I think Charlie was
[00:56:53] not allowed to be anything but a
[00:56:56] Christian Zionist. Um,
[00:57:00] and he was changing in the last few
[00:57:02] weeks. I when I look at the timeline
[00:57:04] that I put together, some weird stuff,
[00:57:07] this Egyptian plane that was started
[00:57:09] tracking him began everything began
[00:57:11] ratcheting up after Tucker Carlson hit
[00:57:14] the stage. Uh, and
[00:57:16] >> in July, I was there for that. Yeah.
[00:57:18] Yeah.
[00:57:18] >> That was that pissed him off.
[00:57:20] >> That was a something. Yeah.
[00:57:21] >> So, I I think Charlie was done as he as
[00:57:25] Megan showed the video. He was telling
[00:57:27] Tucker to go Max. All the things that
[00:57:28] they lied about, we've now proven. And
[00:57:32] why were they lying about it? That's why
[00:57:33] this is the thing. Why lie if you have
[00:57:35] nothing to cover up? That's my common
[00:57:38] sense here. You only lie because you
[00:57:40] have something to cover up. No matter no
[00:57:41] matter what the lie is is, you only lie
[00:57:43] because there's something that you're
[00:57:44] hiding. So if they had all come out
[00:57:45] right when Charlie died, if Seth Dylan,
[00:57:48] who pressed Charlie in the Hamptons, was
[00:57:49] like, "Oh my gosh, my biggest regret is
[00:57:51] the last time I saw Charlie, I was being
[00:57:54] such a jerk about the Israel. It was so
[00:57:55] stupid and this is a reminder that you
[00:57:57] never know when you're going to see
[00:57:58] somebody last." It would have been like,
[00:57:58] "Oh, okay. Nothing to see here." It was
[00:58:00] like a fullcourt press effort to lie
[00:58:02] about everything. Josh Hammer, he never
[00:58:04] blinked on Israel. He was on the text
[00:58:07] message chain where Charlie said 48
[00:58:10] hours before he died that he was done
[00:58:12] with the proatio cause. Why lie? That's
[00:58:16] my question. And I don't like the
[00:58:18] silence from Turning Point employees. I
[00:58:20] know for a fact one of them, I'm not
[00:58:22] going to name has a text message from
[00:58:24] Charlie the day before he died saying,
[00:58:27] "They are going to kill me."
[00:58:29] >> Wow.
[00:58:29] >> Now, he was not referring to the trans
[00:58:32] lobby when he wrote that message.
[00:58:34] >> Yeah.
[00:58:34] >> So, why not present if you are his
[00:58:36] friend and you're interested in the
[00:58:39] truth, why wouldn't you tell the public
[00:58:42] that? Wouldn't you just come right out
[00:58:43] to the public and say, "Hey, I don't
[00:58:45] know what happened, but like Charlie
[00:58:47] thought they were going to kill him. I I
[00:58:48] I do not like the way Turning Point is
[00:58:52] behaving. I've made that clear and
[00:58:54] nobody is going to emotionally
[00:58:56] manipulate me and tell me that it's all
[00:58:58] good now. And to attack Turning Point
[00:59:01] would be to attack his legacy."
[00:59:02] >> Mhm.
[00:59:03] >> Charlie told me years ago that he had
[00:59:06] which I shared the messages he was
[00:59:07] having a ton of visions and was telling
[00:59:09] me that he Turning Point was going to be
[00:59:10] the death of him. He knew he was going
[00:59:11] to die young and strangely knew that I
[00:59:14] was going to be the only person to
[00:59:15] defend him. Right.
[00:59:16] >> I showed the messages.
[00:59:17] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[00:59:18] >> I showed the message to say it was fake
[00:59:19] and you pulled it up and Yeah,
[00:59:20] >> it's it's it's we're here. We're here
[00:59:23] now and I'm going to defend him. I'm
[00:59:25] going to figure out what happened.
[00:59:26] >> What are your thoughts on um how Erica
[00:59:29] Kirk has been dealing with this and some
[00:59:30] of the people that are close to him um
[00:59:32] his manager uh Mike and all them like do
[00:59:35] you think they're just playing a role?
[00:59:36] Do you think they're involved? What are
[00:59:37] your thoughts on them in general? some
[00:59:39] of the people in his closest circle.
[00:59:41] >> It is obvious to me that Mikey McCoy was
[00:59:44] the person that they wanted to launch as
[00:59:45] the new Charlie. That's very obvious.
[00:59:47] The way they brought his YouTube channel
[00:59:48] back with a speech from Mikey and
[00:59:50] everyone was kind of trying to soft sell
[00:59:52] Mikey to us and was like, who's this kid
[00:59:54] who's a you're 23? Why are you the chief
[00:59:56] of staff of anything? You didn't go to
[00:59:58] college. Who are you actually? And
[01:00:00] you're brought in by Rob, your dad, who
[01:00:02] is dirty. I mean, very dirty guy. I
[01:00:04] covered more of that yesterday. um he
[01:00:07] just gives me the sleeves and the ick
[01:00:09] and it just is very strange that they I
[01:00:12] felt like they tried to manipulate us
[01:00:13] into accepting this almost like they had
[01:00:14] like
[01:00:16] Mikey's going to be this person then we
[01:00:18] see Mikey he's a hero and he just walks
[01:00:20] away right after somebody like that
[01:00:23] doesn't make any sense to me and um yeah
[01:00:26] you know with Erica a lot of people on
[01:00:28] the internet have been going into her
[01:00:32] past going into her parents' past and
[01:00:34] you know just speaking about these
[01:00:35] things
[01:00:35] >> defense contractors, parents, stuff like
[01:00:38] that.
[01:00:38] >> Yeah, I've seen all of that. I respond
[01:00:39] to that on my show. And what I've said
[01:00:41] to everybody is I'm starting with what
[01:00:42] happened on that day, what happened
[01:00:44] leading up to his um assassination. And
[01:00:46] the people that catch my attention are
[01:00:48] people who are telling verifiable lies.
[01:00:50] Okay? Erica thus far has not told any
[01:00:53] verifiable lies. She did not lie about
[01:00:55] the fact that he had uh St. Michael on
[01:00:58] him when he died. So, there's two
[01:01:00] things.
[01:01:02] She could be on autopilot and some
[01:01:04] people could be reading that the wrong
[01:01:06] way and thinking, "Oh, well, she's like,
[01:01:08] she's not acting right." Okay, is she on
[01:01:10] autopilot because she fears something,
[01:01:13] right? Again, we don't know what's
[01:01:14] happening behind the scenes, but you
[01:01:17] have to have some level of fear. If you
[01:01:21] watch somebody get assassinated,
[01:01:25] I don't know. I just I just don't know.
[01:01:26] Yeah.
[01:01:27] >> And so people have been upset with me
[01:01:29] for not going, you know, down the rabbit
[01:01:31] hole on my show about Erica's parents.
[01:01:35] People's parents are people's parents.
[01:01:37] They haven't yet come up in my
[01:01:38] investigation. If I find out that her
[01:01:40] parents were involved and then then it's
[01:01:43] going to catch my invest and there's
[01:01:44] nobody that will be spared once they
[01:01:46] come up, once they tell a lie, once they
[01:01:47] I come across something. I just
[01:01:50] literally have not come across anything
[01:01:51] with Frank Turk. Also, I haven't come
[01:01:54] across anything with Erica in my
[01:01:56] investigation. So,
[01:01:57] >> um, the shooter, uh, or the alleged
[01:02:00] shooter, you think they're a pathy?
[01:02:02] >> Of course. I mean, come on. This was so
[01:02:04] dumb. It's so He wasn't even on campus
[01:02:05] that day. They can't show us one clear
[01:02:07] image. Not even one. All of these
[01:02:09] cameras. Turning Point has everything in
[01:02:11] 4K. So, shouldn't you have caught the
[01:02:13] shooter on the roof in 4K? Like, you had
[01:02:15] cameras everywhere that day. Every inch
[01:02:18] of that.
[01:02:19] >> Someone else that was running across
[01:02:20] wasn't
[01:02:20] >> Tyler. Absolutely. someone that just
[01:02:22] sprinted. I don't even know if there was
[01:02:24] a person that sprinted that day because
[01:02:26] everyone's forgetting. There was also a
[01:02:28] news report that came out a week before
[01:02:32] that somebody was on the roof and a
[01:02:34] professor came out and waved the person.
[01:02:36] Now, they may have been dropping off a
[01:02:37] gun, dropping off the screwdriver. I
[01:02:39] don't know
[01:02:39] >> cuz there was one video like one of the
[01:02:41] students had person who took that video
[01:02:43] that I had to track down. Okay.
[01:02:45] >> Military.
[01:02:46] >> Really?
[01:02:47] >> Everybody's military in the story.
[01:02:49] >> Really? So the person that captured that
[01:02:50] cuz I remember when it first broke out
[01:02:52] that cell phone footage got released
[01:02:54] where the shot goes off and for some odd
[01:02:56] reason he's looking at the roof and you
[01:02:57] see like a little speck running on the
[01:02:59] top. So that person that took that video
[01:03:01] was military
[01:03:01] >> military. I got in touch with the person
[01:03:02] and they didn't put up it didn't put the
[01:03:04] video up themselves. I had to go through
[01:03:05] three people. I'm like so I'm supposed
[01:03:07] to believe you're like a college kid and
[01:03:08] you have nothing to do with anything.
[01:03:10] You just decided to randomly like be
[01:03:11] like oh I got this video but I'm going
[01:03:12] to send it through three people to have
[01:03:14] it released. Interesting. And also the
[01:03:15] Lozi building where the shot definitely
[01:03:17] did not come from is the only place on
[01:03:20] campus that houses I believe on the
[01:03:21] third floor according to my source like
[01:03:23] the military something is is in the Loy
[01:03:25] building. So there's a lot happening uh
[01:03:28] that all of that was just a show to mask
[01:03:31] who the real shooter was. I think it's
[01:03:33] way more likely that the shooter was in
[01:03:35] the audience or uh to the side of the
[01:03:37] audience. I think that's more that's the
[01:03:39] more likely story because he wasn't shot
[01:03:41] with a 3006 first and foremost. And the
[01:03:44] bullet did not destroy his neck. I know
[01:03:47] that for a fact. And he actually uh
[01:03:51] >> Yeah. 306 throws everybody off. Like
[01:03:54] >> But that was their plan. Yeah.
[01:03:56] >> Until I accidentally, which I didn't
[01:03:58] even process it at the time, revealed
[01:03:59] that the bullet didn't go through.
[01:04:01] >> Yeah.
[01:04:01] >> And then they kind of were like, "Oh, it
[01:04:03] was just a miracle." Actually,
[01:04:05] >> it was another 3 odd text.
[01:04:06] >> Yeah. The text messages are a bit
[01:04:07] strange, too. And you know, this whole
[01:04:10] situation, like I wish the government
[01:04:12] was being a bit more transparent because
[01:04:13] this has an incredible amount of public
[01:04:14] interest. So, it's like, look, dude, you
[01:04:16] guys probably should be more transparent
[01:04:17] on this cuz government trust is down at
[01:04:19] its lowest
[01:04:20] >> when it comes to people trusting law
[01:04:21] enforcement, whatever. What are your
[01:04:23] thoughts on um how the FBI and the state
[01:04:24] police are handling this in general?
[01:04:27] Because I know you've been
[01:04:28] >> I think what's way more important is
[01:04:31] trusting Alexis Wilkins as a sensational
[01:04:33] singer and the people like careful, she
[01:04:36] might sue you.
[01:04:37] >> And I don't want to talk about like the
[01:04:38] feds right now. Like they're doing what
[01:04:40] they have to. The more important thing
[01:04:41] is that this sensational country singer
[01:04:43] is left alone. We are just not a serious
[01:04:45] nation. I mean, I think if Putin's FBI
[01:04:48] director or put that out, he would just
[01:04:52] Putin would just quietly have him
[01:04:53] assassinated or something. I don't know.
[01:04:54] Uh but we are just not a serious nation.
[01:04:56] That is just they are tweeting like
[01:04:59] girls on TikTok right now. And it's
[01:05:02] embarrassing. It is so embarrassing. He
[01:05:04] should have been forced to resign. Trump
[01:05:06] should have made him resign. We're
[01:05:08] embarrassing us because uh there's no
[01:05:11] way Putin's not laughing with his homies
[01:05:12] right now about that tweet. My
[01:05:14] girlfriend, my life partner.
[01:05:16] >> Yeah,
[01:05:17] >> we are.
[01:05:17] >> She sued a bunch of people. It's crazy.
[01:05:19] >> Crazy.
[01:05:20] >> Yeah.
[01:05:20] >> And obviously with his blessing.
[01:05:22] Obviously with his blessing. Or you
[01:05:24] would say, "Hey honey, not now, right?
[01:05:27] This is a bad time. This is a bad time.
[01:05:28] I've got to be taken as a serious man
[01:05:30] >> optically." Yeah.
[01:05:30] >> Yeah. And of course, the opposite thing
[01:05:32] happens now where everyone's now calling
[01:05:33] her honeypot. And so, what's she gonna
[01:05:35] do? Like whack-a-ole? Just sue everybody
[01:05:37] on the internet who's making a joke? Sue
[01:05:38] Tim Dylan or something?
[01:05:40] >> Absolutely nuts. Um, so it'd be fair to
[01:05:42] say, so you don't believe the official
[01:05:44] nerve and I and I do agree with you.
[01:05:45] There's a lot of problems with it,
[01:05:46] right? Between a 306.
[01:05:48] >> Why don't we have the full footage of
[01:05:49] him taking the shot, then running off?
[01:05:51] You only showing him running. Um, the
[01:05:53] text messages are strange.
[01:05:55] >> They don't even show us him taking a
[01:05:56] shot. Seems like a pretty easy thing to
[01:05:58] do. that that's one of my biggest issues
[01:06:00] is they didn't show him taking a shot,
[01:06:01] but they have him running across the
[01:06:02] roof. So, it's like how do you not have
[01:06:04] him prone shooting the shot? So, I guess
[01:06:06] and I know you're still investigating
[01:06:08] and figuring everything out, but
[01:06:10] >> if you could kind of give me a quick
[01:06:11] summary, what do you think transpired in
[01:06:12] that day? Who do you think's
[01:06:13] responsible? Maybe a rough timeline. I
[01:06:15] know you're still filling parts in, but
[01:06:17] from what you have so far, what do you
[01:06:18] think? This is a guess and this is just
[01:06:19] like if I had to guess right now where
[01:06:21] I'm at and this I I think Tyler
[01:06:24] Robinson's only contribution
[01:06:26] was that he had his prints on the gun. I
[01:06:30] know that he his prints were not the
[01:06:32] only prints that were on the gun which
[01:06:33] is something that they haven't been
[01:06:34] honest about.
[01:06:35] >> I would suspect that his driver on that
[01:06:38] too and stuff.
[01:06:38] >> Yeah, I think Lance Twigs is much more
[01:06:40] involved. I don't think he took the shot
[01:06:42] either but I think he's more involved. I
[01:06:44] think that Tyler Robinson's
[01:06:47] all these people that were involved that
[01:06:48] day got swept up in pedophile stuff from
[01:06:50] George Zinn uh the guy that cheered his
[01:06:53] father's also a pedophile. The guy next
[01:06:55] I mean the whole thing is like it was an
[01:06:56] operation with blackmailed people.
[01:06:58] >> The Zen guy was at 911 too.
[01:07:00] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean just unbelievable.
[01:07:03] And again more of a marker that this was
[01:07:05] like a blackmail operation. Also Zen
[01:07:08] told a nurse that he was being paid. He
[01:07:10] didn't know how he was going to be paid
[01:07:11] for doing that after. So he was supposed
[01:07:12] to be another psy and
[01:07:15] >> yeah cuz it was like immediate like he
[01:07:16] got like when this broke out he got
[01:07:19] arrested and he was like it was out in
[01:07:20] the like immediately
[01:07:21] >> multiple people involved that day. One
[01:07:23] person maybe just supposed to run across
[01:07:24] the rooftop. Uh another I think Tyler
[01:07:28] Robinson all his job was to pick up
[01:07:30] clothes. I think literally he didn't
[01:07:32] step foot on campus that day and his job
[01:07:34] was to get rid of the clothes next to
[01:07:35] the Dairy Queen into some cemetery which
[01:07:37] I broke and the FBI is not disputed but
[01:07:40] they decided to monitor the Dairy Queen
[01:07:41] afterwards and send some feds there and
[01:07:44] uh yeah so his role was to pick up
[01:07:46] clothes. I think Lance is actually the
[01:07:48] one that's walking um in the backpack
[01:07:52] and but
[01:07:53] >> oh the TMZ footage
[01:07:54] >> Maroon. Yep. I think I think that's
[01:07:56] Lance and I don't know who was walking
[01:07:58] up the stairs. I think that's a whole
[01:07:59] different person cuz they don't even
[01:08:00] look like they have the same body.
[01:08:01] >> Okay.
[01:08:02] >> And yeah, that's how you do a nice
[01:08:03] better operation. You got a bunch of
[01:08:04] psies doing different roles and
[01:08:06] >> they didn't show us the video of the
[01:08:07] stair of the stairway footage either,
[01:08:08] which is another thing that's strange.
[01:08:10] >> Yep.
[01:08:10] >> Yeah. Okay. Well, no, I mean I I see
[01:08:13] your there there's a lot of you know and
[01:08:14] I said it before they've created more
[01:08:16] questions than answers. Right.
[01:08:18] >> Right. Which is obviously the the
[01:08:20] problem here. But um but I know we're
[01:08:22] short for time here. So I'll just uh
[01:08:24] Yeah. Where can people find you?
[01:08:26] >> I mean everywhere.
[01:08:26] >> Yeah. You're everywhere.
[01:08:27] >> Yeah. at your
[01:08:28] >> congratulations on the mobile court
[01:08:30] house, your local courthouse being sued.
[01:08:31] If you'd like to find me uh your local
[01:08:33] news station being called anti-semite.
[01:08:35] >> Oh, one last thing. Do you think cuz I
[01:08:38] know Turning Point, they had said
[01:08:39] something about we're going to go after
[01:08:40] anyone that's saying anything. Have they
[01:08:42] like reached out to you at all or
[01:08:43] contacted you cuz you're probably one of
[01:08:44] the most outspoken critic of what's
[01:08:46] going on with this investigation.
[01:08:47] >> Happy to have any person at Turning
[01:08:49] Point on my show to discuss anything
[01:08:50] that I'm saying, to make any corrections
[01:08:52] about anything that I'm saying. Um they
[01:08:54] can make a statement for all I care. I'm
[01:08:56] not gonna stop investigating this until
[01:08:58] we're told something that makes sense,
[01:08:59] makes rational sense. And uh you're not
[01:09:02] gonna tell me like you do with Israel
[01:09:04] that I'll get into heaven if I just
[01:09:06] ignore how Charlie Kirk was killed. Like
[01:09:08] we're not going to do we're not going to
[01:09:09] play that game. So say something that
[01:09:11] makes sense or you have an enemy of me.
[01:09:13] That's pretty much it. And if you didn't
[01:09:15] want people prying into this narrative,
[01:09:19] maybe you shouldn't have executed him
[01:09:20] publicly. Yeah. Maybe you should have
[01:09:21] pretend he choked on an egg or something
[01:09:24] like you did with that that uh rapper a
[01:09:27] long while back when you started asking
[01:09:28] questions about things. Not a good idea
[01:09:31] to get everyone emotionally invested in
[01:09:33] the story and then to tell them to shut
[01:09:34] off their emotions.
[01:09:35] >> No, I mean you've been doing an
[01:09:36] incredible job of putting a lot of
[01:09:38] pressure on them, right? Uh so hopefully
[01:09:39] we, you know, get answers here because
[01:09:41] what they have out right now just simply
[01:09:43] doesn't make sense. So
[01:09:44] >> So thank you so much, Candace. I
[01:09:45] appreciate it.
[01:09:46] >> Thank you. So great. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:09:47] >> And also, thank you for being so patient
[01:09:48] cuz I know my schedule's so crazy with
[01:09:50] the with so many kids and so I was like,
[01:09:51] we just got to make it happen. I was
[01:09:52] like, just get them down here.
[01:09:53] >> Yeah. You're a mom. You have a family.
[01:09:54] So, I totally understand it. So, thank
[01:09:56] you so much.
[01:09:56] >> Anytime.
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