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[00:00:00] Holaene [00:00:01] Alben Shapiro show. Yeah. So, I had to [00:00:04] learn Spanish so I could understand the [00:00:06] halftime show over at the Super Bowl. [00:00:08] And I have a lot of thoughts. I have a [00:00:10] lot of thoughts. First, that Daily Wire [00:00:12] Plus app, that's how you take the Daily [00:00:13] Wire with you wherever you go. And right [00:00:16] now, we are providing you with actual [00:00:17] breaking news and journalism in brand [00:00:19] new ways. We have a new podcast series [00:00:21] out called Finding Nancy Guthrie. It's [00:00:23] updated in real time. It's really [00:00:25] important stuff. And again, when you go [00:00:26] over to Daily Wire Plus, you get that [00:00:28] stuff. You're not going to get it [00:00:29] anywhere else. You also get uncensored [00:00:31] ad free daily shows, real investigative [00:00:33] journalism, and a community of people [00:00:34] who share your value. So, head on over [00:00:36] to Daily Wire Plus right now. Download [00:00:38] that app. Go on your phone, download [00:00:40] that app, become part of the community. [00:00:42] You can go to Roku, Amazon Fire TV, [00:00:43] Firest Stick, Apple TV, Samsung, Vizio, [00:00:45] LG Smart TVs, and of course the App [00:00:47] Store, and Google Play to join the fun. [00:00:49] Overall, honestly, like great production [00:00:52] value. I understand this halftime show [00:00:53] is not aimed at me. I listen to [00:00:55] classical music and there was the usual [00:00:58] plethora of butts on the screen which [00:01:01] again has become common to all halftime [00:01:03] shows unfortunately. But overall in [00:01:05] terms of the production value production [00:01:07] value incredible incredible I was very [00:01:10] much in favor of a couple actually [00:01:11] getting married like a straight couple [00:01:12] getting married in the middle of the [00:01:13] halftime show. And by the way, I did [00:01:15] enjoy the entire wedding production [00:01:19] dance with Lady Gaga as the wedding [00:01:21] singer and even the kid falling asleep [00:01:23] on the chairs, which I've been told by [00:01:26] some of my producers, producer savvy, is [00:01:28] of Latina extraction. And also, Fabby, [00:01:32] the makeup lady, is is Puerto Rican. And [00:01:34] so, they told me that this is like a [00:01:36] common thing at Latino weddings. It is [00:01:39] also a common thing at Jewish weddings [00:01:40] where where everybody goes too late and [00:01:42] the kids are all sleeping on the chairs. [00:01:43] a comment again. Charming. I enjoyed [00:01:46] that. The the staging was immaculate. [00:01:49] All of that is is fine. [00:01:52] So, let's start with that. Here is sort [00:01:55] of my generalized critique. There is a [00:01:57] thing that goes on in American culture [00:01:58] that is highly irritating to me. And [00:02:00] that thing is where everyone celebrates [00:02:03] a thing that is left-leaning in nature [00:02:05] politically. And then if you notice the [00:02:07] thing is happening, they tell you that [00:02:08] you're crazy and why are you focusing on [00:02:10] it? and you are just over your skis and [00:02:12] why are you so upset? So, let's start [00:02:14] with this again. I'm not particularly [00:02:16] upset by halftime shows at the Super [00:02:18] Bowl because who cares in the grand [00:02:20] scheme of life? Is this a big deal? No, [00:02:23] it is not a big deal. The reason that [00:02:25] some people are concerned today or upset [00:02:28] today is because really I think the end [00:02:31] of the performance. So, let's start with [00:02:34] this. Again, I am not a bad bunny fan. [00:02:36] To me, I don't know whether he's a good [00:02:37] bunny, a bad bunny, or the worst bunny. [00:02:38] have no gradation. I have no scale upon [00:02:41] which to judge his badness of bunniness. [00:02:43] I I do not know his music. I did not [00:02:45] understand a word he was saying. [00:02:46] Frankly, it seemed to me as a person who [00:02:48] again does not traffic in this music and [00:02:50] doesn't listen to this music that when I [00:02:53] was watching the affforementioned Bad [00:02:55] Bunny walking through the screen holding [00:02:56] a football, gaining more yards than the [00:02:58] New England Patriots the entire first [00:03:00] half and and kind of saying things to me [00:03:03] in Spanish. And I had no idea what he [00:03:04] was saying. I will admit that it felt to [00:03:07] me like perhaps I'd been in a car crash [00:03:09] and there was a person walking at me [00:03:11] telling me that I needed to get out my [00:03:12] insurance card in a language I did not [00:03:14] understand. So, this was not geared [00:03:15] toward me. But again, I told you the [00:03:18] pros. The pros are that beautifully [00:03:21] produced, [00:03:22] the couple getting married mid show, the [00:03:25] kids falling asleep on the chairs, all [00:03:26] all that was very, very charming. And I [00:03:29] don't even have a problem with a lot of [00:03:30] Spanish being in the show because guess [00:03:31] what? A lot of people in the United [00:03:32] States speak Spanish and that's totally [00:03:34] cool. A lot of people in the United [00:03:35] States speak a lot of second languages. [00:03:38] There are some cons. And again, here is [00:03:40] where you get into the gaslighting. [00:03:43] One, one con, no English. It is fine [00:03:47] obviously to have a lot of Spanish and [00:03:49] not even unprecedented. I remember a few [00:03:51] years ago, Shakira and JLo did the [00:03:53] halftime show and I believe they did a [00:03:54] song in Spanish. Cool. That's awesome. [00:03:58] And of course, there are tens of [00:03:59] millions of Latino Americans who [00:04:01] contribute in unbelievable ways to our [00:04:02] common project as Americans. Onethird of [00:04:05] the American military is Latino. But why [00:04:07] no English, right? That that's a [00:04:09] decision. That's a decision that's being [00:04:10] made. No English where people who don't [00:04:12] speak Spanish don't understand what is [00:04:14] going on. I mean, he could have been [00:04:16] saying literally anything and I would [00:04:17] have had no idea what he was saying. [00:04:20] And second of all, to pretend that Bad [00:04:22] Bunny is an apolitical figure is of [00:04:24] course very, very silly. Bad Bunny is [00:04:26] not an a-olitical figure. He has never [00:04:27] pretended to be an a-olitical figure. [00:04:31] So, for example, when he showed himself [00:04:33] on the Grammys and then him giving a [00:04:34] Grammy to a little kid who looked [00:04:36] precisely like an ICE detainee. Don't [00:04:39] tell me that this wasn't on purpose. Of [00:04:41] course, it was on purpose. Don't be [00:04:42] silly. Don't be silly. now. [00:04:47] >> Okay. [00:04:52] >> And here comes Bad Bunny to give the [00:04:53] Grammy to the little kid who's supposed [00:04:55] to look pretty clearly like the ICE [00:04:57] detainee. I mean, so much so that [00:04:59] everybody he was not, by the way. And [00:05:01] then he starts with this stuff again. [00:05:03] Again, not not my jam. Not my jam. the [00:05:06] the entire I keep coming back to the [00:05:08] production value because just as a [00:05:09] person who enjoys a good show, the [00:05:11] production value incredibly high. [00:05:13] Building like an entire sugarcane field [00:05:15] out in the middle of the Super Bowl. All [00:05:18] those sugarcanes, by the way, were [00:05:19] people inside the sugarcane. So, it was [00:05:20] like the March of the Ants when they [00:05:22] were setting that thing up, people just [00:05:23] kind of wandering into the middle of the [00:05:24] field. [00:05:26] There were some weird moments. [00:05:28] Obviously, one of his songs is is about [00:05:29] the failure of electricity in Puerto [00:05:32] Rico. And so people falling off of [00:05:33] telephone lines, which if you have no [00:05:34] frame of reference, which I really did [00:05:36] not until I actually looked it up, I [00:05:37] have no idea what's going on. And then [00:05:39] when I found out, I feel like that's a [00:05:40] very weird way to sort of tout your your [00:05:42] home culture is and also our our [00:05:44] electricity fails a lot. That if I were [00:05:48] to do one for Jewish culture, I would be [00:05:50] like, also Ashkanazic food is totally [00:05:52] tasteless. 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The tell was the end of the halftime [00:09:16] show. So the end of the halftime show [00:09:18] bad bunny again a less than good bunny. [00:09:22] He's walking through and he's followed [00:09:24] by apparently the entire World Cup [00:09:27] contingent from the Western Hemisphere. [00:09:29] So he walks through and he announces [00:09:30] every single country in the Western [00:09:33] Hemisphere, starting geographically with [00:09:35] Argentina, like starting there and [00:09:37] finishing up with Canada. And as he [00:09:39] does, a bunch of people follow him [00:09:40] carrying flags from various other [00:09:43] countries that are not the United [00:09:44] States. So here's what that looked like. [00:09:48] >> Bless [00:09:52] God bless America. Maybe his only [00:09:53] English words. And then she starts [00:09:55] listing countries. [00:09:56] Let's model United Nations time now. [00:10:01] I mean good for him for memorizing his [00:10:02] geography [00:10:14] Puerto Rico. [00:10:16] >> Okay. And then he Okay. So and then he [00:10:19] finishes he finishes with together we're [00:10:22] all Americans. Okay. So here is the [00:10:24] problem with this particular thing. [00:10:26] truly [00:10:27] celebrating Puerto Rican culture in the [00:10:29] United States, celebrating Latino [00:10:31] culture in the United States. Cool. One [00:10:33] of the amazing things about America, [00:10:34] truly amazing things, is you can both [00:10:36] assimilate to the values of the United [00:10:38] States and still keep the flavor of your [00:10:41] old culture, of your common culture. You [00:10:43] can do that. And one of the great things [00:10:45] about America over the course of the [00:10:48] last couple of hundred years is that you [00:10:49] have lots of cultures that merge into [00:10:51] the gigantic stream that is the United [00:10:53] States, which is why every American has [00:10:55] eaten Mexican food and Italian food and [00:10:57] Chinese food. And that's wonderful. [00:10:59] That's great. Now, the fact that you [00:11:01] have weddings where you have people [00:11:02] dancing salsa and you have weddings [00:11:04] where you have people dancing the [00:11:05] horror, that's wonderful. That's great. [00:11:06] That's fine. I don't think a whole lot [00:11:08] of Americans object to that. The [00:11:10] question is, are you showing gratitude [00:11:13] for America being unique? So, this I [00:11:15] think is the reason why people are [00:11:16] focusing on on this on a on a political [00:11:18] level. Where is Bad Bunny's gratitude? [00:11:21] The worst Bunny. Why is Bad Bunny's I [00:11:23] have such a hard time saying his his [00:11:24] stage name. Why is this person's [00:11:27] gratitude being so hidden here? There [00:11:30] have been other shows where he's refused [00:11:31] to stand up for the national anthem. He [00:11:33] is rich and he is famous because of the [00:11:34] United States. [00:11:36] He is living in splendor because of the [00:11:39] United States. He is one of the greatest [00:11:41] recipients of American large s ever [00:11:43] because we all are. If you're born in [00:11:45] America and if you're born in Puerto [00:11:46] Rico, you're an American. If you're born [00:11:48] in America, that is the greatest [00:11:49] privilege that you can receive. So, it [00:11:51] is my opinion that you should show some [00:11:53] gratitude for America being unique. It [00:11:55] seems to me American flags should have [00:11:57] been all over the place in the middle of [00:11:59] this demonstration. This is one of the [00:12:00] things I think that the political left [00:12:02] does totally wrong. It's kind of [00:12:03] astonishing to me. The political left [00:12:06] has the opportunity to grab the upper [00:12:08] hand culturally with a lot of people and [00:12:10] simultaneously celebrate the country. He [00:12:12] could have done this entire show almost [00:12:14] identically with American flags [00:12:16] everywhere saying America means that you [00:12:18] can have salsa dancing at your wedding. [00:12:21] But that's what's amazing about America. [00:12:23] You can do all that and still be an [00:12:24] American who loves football and still be [00:12:26] an American. Football is a uniquely [00:12:28] American sport. You can still be an [00:12:29] American who is doing all the American [00:12:31] things and you can also enjoy these [00:12:33] cultural variants. He could have done [00:12:35] that bringing out the flags of foreign [00:12:38] nations places by the way that are not [00:12:40] purely Latino. So it wasn't just a [00:12:41] celebration of Latino culture at the end [00:12:43] because Canada is not Latino. [00:12:46] Canada is there's a bunch of white [00:12:48] people Canada generally speaking, right? [00:12:51] Haiti is not Latino. And there are a [00:12:54] bunch of countries in the Western [00:12:55] Hemisphere that are actually not [00:12:57] predominantly Latino. So what he's doing [00:13:00] there, this kind of United Nations [00:13:02] routine is not a celebration of America [00:13:05] or a celebration of cultures that [00:13:07] coexist peacefully in America or a [00:13:09] celebration of Latino culture in [00:13:11] America. It is a celebration [00:13:13] of apparently everyone being American. [00:13:16] And this is what he says. He says we're [00:13:17] all Americans. Well, you're an American [00:13:19] if you're in America's borders and your [00:13:21] loyalty is to America. you're not [00:13:23] American if you are Peruvian and you [00:13:26] live in Peru and you spent your entire [00:13:28] life in Peru. And his attempt to say we [00:13:30] are all Americans by making some sort of [00:13:32] pedantic geographic point that the [00:13:34] Americas encompass like the continents [00:13:37] of North America and South America. [00:13:39] That's silly and no one sees it that [00:13:41] way. And the reality is we are all from [00:13:44] the Americas but we are not all [00:13:46] Americans. When people say American they [00:13:48] believe that you are talking about the [00:13:49] United States as they should. And [00:13:51] football is an American event. It is [00:13:53] actually not the world's biggest event. [00:13:55] It is America's biggest event, but ain't [00:13:56] nobody in Japan watching the Super Bowl. [00:13:59] This was not the World Cup. This [00:14:01] performance at the World Cup would have [00:14:02] made perfect sense. It would have [00:14:04] because that's an international event [00:14:05] with a bunch of different at the [00:14:06] Olympics. This would have made perfect [00:14:07] sense. Doing it at the halftime show and [00:14:10] then basically saying that America is [00:14:13] one of many. [00:14:15] saying that what is happening on the [00:14:17] stage is not a representation of the [00:14:19] greatness of America in being able to [00:14:22] capture many different cultures and draw [00:14:24] from many different cultures to to merge [00:14:26] in our assimilative American values. Not [00:14:29] doing that, but instead doing these sort [00:14:30] of country separatism and then saying we [00:14:33] are all Americans [00:14:35] while flying the flags of of countries [00:14:37] that are not American. Like again, that [00:14:39] last part was I think the tell and that [00:14:41] was the part I think that people are are [00:14:42] really reacting to on a sort of gut [00:14:44] level. Now again, none of this is to say [00:14:46] that for the third time, there aren't [00:14:48] parts of the show that were kind of [00:14:49] enjoyable. Again, I'll bring up the the [00:14:51] sort of wedding part of it, which I [00:14:52] thought was which I thought was kind of [00:14:54] charming. Right here, here are some of [00:14:56] the wedding stuff that was happening. [00:15:05] This is a natural wedding that happened [00:15:06] on the stage. Like, cool. Nice. [00:15:10] And and yeah, exactly. A dude marrying a [00:15:12] woman. And then they drew aside and [00:15:13] suddenly the whitest lady I've ever [00:15:15] seen, Lady Gaga, who's Italian, [00:15:18] she started singing a salsa version of [00:15:21] >> one of her songs, [00:15:23] >> Die with a Smile. [00:15:26] >> And uh and then you had all the salsa [00:15:28] dancing. And again, I think the Super [00:15:30] Bowl needs to take it down a couple of [00:15:31] notches in terms of the uh of the [00:15:33] fleshly pursuits, but that's not unique [00:15:35] to this particular show. But the salsa [00:15:36] dancing at the wedding, I thought was [00:15:37] charming. and the little kid who's like [00:15:39] lying asleep on and you have like the [00:15:40] old the old grandfather or grandmother [00:15:43] who's like moving the kid like that [00:15:44] that's not nice that's not why I didn't [00:15:46] react to any of that I thought fine the [00:15:49] only thing that as an American I reacted [00:15:51] to was the point that was being made at [00:15:54] the end that was clearly political and [00:15:55] when people say that don't notice the [00:15:58] politics this is the part that drives me [00:15:59] a little crazy you can't put it in every [00:16:01] review and then when I notice that it's [00:16:03] happening you tell me that I'm crazy [00:16:05] that's the part I think that's getting [00:16:06] people if you go to the Wall Street [00:16:07] Journal review of the show, they say in [00:16:10] a history-making halftime show perform [00:16:12] performed almost entirely in Spanish. So [00:16:14] as soon as you say a history-making [00:16:16] halftime show, you're already saying [00:16:18] there is something uniquely important [00:16:19] about this halftime show. So don't [00:16:21] pretend that this is, you know, Bon Joy [00:16:25] playing a halftime show a few years ago. [00:16:27] If you're saying it's history making, [00:16:28] clearly you're saying that it's [00:16:30] important in a cultural political way. [00:16:33] In history making halftime show [00:16:34] performed almost entirely in Spanish. [00:16:35] The Puerto Rican star paid tribute to [00:16:37] his heritage and the many countries from [00:16:38] Brazil to Mexico whose people have come [00:16:40] to shape the modern day US. And again, [00:16:42] this is one of the weird conflicts about [00:16:43] giving that list of countries and and [00:16:45] including, for example, Canada. It's [00:16:48] kind of strange because if you're just [00:16:49] celebrating immigration, then [00:16:50] theoretically a lot of immigrants from [00:16:52] other places all over the world who come [00:16:53] to the United States. But as the Wall [00:16:56] Street Journal Review points out, just a [00:16:58] week ago, Bad Bunny denounced ICE and [00:17:00] Customs Enforcement while accepting a [00:17:01] Grammy award. But on the halftime stage, [00:17:03] he offered up a buoyant celebration of [00:17:05] Latino culture. The elaborate stage [00:17:07] design included a maze of sugarcane and [00:17:09] a singlestory house similar to the one [00:17:10] he used during his 31 date residency in [00:17:12] San Juan, Puerto Rico last summer. As [00:17:14] Bad Bunny strutdded through the [00:17:15] greenery, he passed by old men playing [00:17:17] dominoes, women chatting in a nail [00:17:18] salon, and boxer sparring, a montage of [00:17:20] scenes from life in Puerto Rico. And [00:17:22] then there were a stream of celebrities [00:17:23] who showed up to offer their support. [00:17:25] Uh, I will admit that I did not [00:17:26] recognize any of them except for Ricky [00:17:28] Martin showed up. And I mean, I think [00:17:30] we're all getting old cuz I'm I'm old [00:17:32] enough to remember when Ricky Martin was [00:17:33] pretending to be straight. So he he he [00:17:36] showed up flanked by a bunch of bananas, [00:17:37] which was a little strange. Anyway, he [00:17:40] showed up. [00:17:42] Apparently, Pedro Pascal and Jessica [00:17:44] Alba were there for like a hot second. [00:17:46] And then he finished that set by spiking [00:17:48] a football that said together we are [00:17:50] America. [00:17:52] So that's the part like again if you're [00:17:55] going to say it's important and then we [00:17:56] notice that it's important and we ask so [00:17:58] why is it important and then you tell us [00:17:59] and then we say well we don't like that [00:18:01] that's not us doing something wrong [00:18:03] that's you gaslighting people but here [00:18:05] are the things that are not wrong doing [00:18:07] the vast majority of the show in Spanish [00:18:09] don't care fine I'll be honest you when [00:18:12] when Kendrick Lamar did his show I had [00:18:13] no idea what he was saying the entire [00:18:15] show and he was purportedly speaking [00:18:16] English I had no idea a single word that [00:18:18] he was saying so my bewilderment at The [00:18:22] innate illiteracy of many of our artists [00:18:25] continues. My my my inability to speak [00:18:28] the language they are speaking is not [00:18:29] unique to the halftime show. That I'm [00:18:32] not upset about. I'm not upset about the [00:18:34] featuring of Puerto Rican culture or [00:18:35] Latino culture. Cool. Fine. Kind of [00:18:38] enjoy. [00:18:40] The thing that I am concerned about is [00:18:43] the innate argument that is being made [00:18:45] that the greatness of America somehow [00:18:47] must be subsumed under the rubric of all [00:18:50] countries are awesome and America is [00:18:52] somehow equivalent in some way to other [00:18:55] countries. It is not. America is [00:18:56] exceptional. It's unique and bad money [00:18:57] of all humans should know this because [00:18:59] again in other countries he would still [00:19:01] be working at the local bodega which he [00:19:03] was I believe in Puerto Rico until like [00:19:04] 2015. America is fabulous. America is [00:19:08] spectacular. do that exact same [00:19:10] performance while thanking America and [00:19:12] everybody goes home happy. But again, I [00:19:15] think he was meant not to do that and [00:19:16] noticing that is not some sort of crime [00:19:17] or sin. President Trump predictably did [00:19:19] not like the show. He put out a [00:19:21] statement on Truth Social in which he [00:19:23] said the Super Bowl halftime show is [00:19:25] absolutely terrible. One of the worst [00:19:26] ever. Okay, again an overstatement. I [00:19:29] mean, I I I've seen many many terrible [00:19:31] Super Bowl halftime shows each year. In [00:19:33] fact, I I generally hate the Super Bowl [00:19:35] halftime show. It makes no sense. It is [00:19:37] an affront to the greatness of America [00:19:38] and doesn't represent our standards of [00:19:39] success, creativity, or excellence. [00:19:41] Nobody understands a word this guy is [00:19:43] saying, and the dancing is disgusting, [00:19:45] especially for young children that are [00:19:46] watching from throughout the United [00:19:47] States and all over the world. Again, I [00:19:49] I would have more sympathy for that [00:19:51] statement, except for that's been true [00:19:52] for 20 years. The the It is gross. It [00:19:56] But unfortunately, it now shows up in [00:19:58] nearly every sporting event. the sort of [00:19:59] bump and grind dancing that you see from [00:20:00] cheerleaders at a normal basketball game [00:20:03] is is so much more than a 14-year-old [00:20:06] boy would have been able to take in [00:20:07] 1983. This show is just a slap in the [00:20:10] face to our country, says the president, [00:20:11] which is setting new standards and [00:20:12] records every single day, including the [00:20:14] best stock market and 401ks in history. [00:20:16] There's nothing inspirational about this [00:20:17] mess of a halftime show. And watch, [00:20:19] you'll get great reviews from the fake [00:20:20] news media because they haven't got a [00:20:21] clue of what is going on in the real [00:20:22] world. And by the way, the NFL should [00:20:24] immediately replace its ridiculous new [00:20:25] kickoff rule. Make America great again, [00:20:27] President Trump. Um, so I agree about [00:20:29] the kickoff rule. Uh, and again I I see [00:20:31] where he is coming from when he when he [00:20:33] does not like the halftime show. I think [00:20:34] that that there's a better way to [00:20:36] articulate that. [00:20:38] And this is again, we'll get to this a [00:20:41] little bit later on in the show. This [00:20:42] goes to the Republican party's inability [00:20:44] to articulate good critiques in a [00:20:45] thoughtful way that will tend to broaden [00:20:47] the coalition rather than narrowing it. [00:20:49] Well, while all of this was going on at [00:20:51] the Super Bowl halftime show, all of the [00:20:53] cultural chaos and all of the argument, [00:20:55] Turning Point USA held its All-American [00:20:57] Super Bowl halftime show. You could have [00:20:59] seen that over at Daily Wire Plus. We [00:21:00] were one of the places that was [00:21:01] streaming it. The show featured Kid [00:21:03] Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, and [00:21:04] Gabby Barrett. And apparently, it is one [00:21:06] of the most viewed shows in the history [00:21:08] of YouTube. Like astonishing numbers, [00:21:11] actually. The numbers soared to as many [00:21:14] as 5 million people concurrently tuning [00:21:16] into the live stream on YouTube. [00:21:19] Now again, they're doing that on a [00:21:21] fraction of the budget of the Super [00:21:22] Bowl. Of course, they're doing it in a [00:21:25] closed room that does not involve 70,000 [00:21:27] people. So that's a pretty astonishing a [00:21:30] pretty astonishing showing there from [00:21:32] TPUSA. And as I say, you could head on [00:21:34] over to Daily Wire Plus as a subscriber [00:21:36] and watch it. [00:21:38] And I I think that speaks to the amount [00:21:40] of antipathy that people have for the [00:21:42] sort of politics that are being promoted [00:21:43] by Jay-Z and team over at the Super [00:21:45] Bowl. It's Jay-Z's team that handles the [00:21:47] logistics for the halftime show. [00:21:50] There are a lot of people who decided [00:21:51] that they were going to tune on over to [00:21:53] the TPUSA show. And that that's a I mean [00:21:55] to go from nowhere to those kinds of [00:21:57] numbers. Amazing work by TPUSA. [00:22:02] Again, there's a reason that right-wing [00:22:04] media have been on the upswing for quite [00:22:06] a while. And that answer is left-wing [00:22:08] media and the infusion of leftwing [00:22:10] politics into what used to be at least [00:22:13] apolitical entertainment. Meanwhile, [00:22:15] over at the Super Bowl, one of the sort [00:22:17] of more bizarre ads of the evening came [00:22:19] when Mike Tyson suddenly appeared on [00:22:21] your TV and told you to eat real food. [00:22:23] That was the thing that happened in our [00:22:25] lives. So, that was put up by the Make [00:22:27] America Healthy Again part of the Trump [00:22:30] administration. Now, Maha's doing a lot [00:22:33] of amazing things. I'm not sure that [00:22:34] that Mike Tyson, who most famously [00:22:36] dieted on human ear, is necessarily your [00:22:39] your best pick for a person to promote [00:22:41] healthy eating. He talked about how his [00:22:43] 25-year-old sister died after a heart [00:22:45] attack. And then it showed him biting [00:22:47] into an apple and it said, "Processed [00:22:49] foods kill." Said, "Eat real food." Now, [00:22:51] again, I'm totally for the eat real food [00:22:53] thing. I think that that's great. I'm [00:22:54] just not sure that Mike Tyson is is the [00:22:56] best person that you could try it out [00:22:57] theoretically for that. It's kind It's [00:22:59] kind of a strange pick, shall we say. [00:23:02] With that said, the Maha movement is [00:23:04] doing some fascinating things. And we're [00:23:05] going to be joined in just a minute by [00:23:06] the first lady of Florida where they [00:23:08] have their own Maha movement actually [00:23:10] pushing forward what is eating healthy [00:23:13] and checking into foods that may not be [00:23:15] good for your kids. This segment is [00:23:16] sponsored by Balance of Nature. If [00:23:18] you're serious about daily health and [00:23:19] fitness, consistency is not optional. [00:23:21] Balance of Nature helps make it [00:23:23] automatic. As I mentioned, I had the [00:23:25] opportunity to sit down with the first [00:23:26] lady of Florida a little while ago to [00:23:28] talk about what the state of Florida has [00:23:30] been doing. They're testing a lot of the [00:23:31] foods that you are probably eating or [00:23:32] feeding to your kids. and the results [00:23:34] are not always wonderful. Casey, thanks [00:23:36] so much for joining. Really appreciate [00:23:37] the time. [00:23:38] >> Hey, hey, Ben, thanks for having me and [00:23:40] thanks for taking an interest in all of [00:23:41] this. [00:23:42] >> So, let's talk about what you've been [00:23:43] doing and some of the results that [00:23:44] you've been getting. So, as I say, the [00:23:46] the FDA, they they give the go-ahad to [00:23:49] to, you know, particular products, but [00:23:51] then I think everyone assumes that what [00:23:52] you're eating is now safe because the [00:23:53] FDA has said that it is safe, but [00:23:55] there's no sort of follow-up testing and [00:23:56] and that was the basis for the Healthy [00:23:58] Florida First initiative. [00:23:59] >> That's 100% right. And so what we have [00:24:01] learned pretty much is that the FDA does [00:24:03] a really good job as a reactionary [00:24:05] force, right? If there is a problem, [00:24:06] they will go and investigate. If there's [00:24:08] a EC coli or salmonella outbreak, they [00:24:11] will go and investigate. But what we [00:24:12] want to do in the free state of Florida [00:24:14] and through a coalition of other states [00:24:16] is to do trust but verified testing. [00:24:18] Right? A company can put a product out [00:24:20] on the market. It has a list of [00:24:21] ingredients and what we want to do is [00:24:24] trust the integrity of that product to [00:24:26] ensure that there are no contaminants [00:24:28] like heavy metals, leads or pesticides [00:24:30] or anything like that. And I think [00:24:32] through the states in a federalist type [00:24:35] way, we can help be a force multiplier [00:24:37] to the federal maja movement. Give our [00:24:39] data and our evidence to the FDA and [00:24:42] say, "Hey, listen. here are some actors [00:24:43] here that are problematic like [00:24:45] glyphosate which we found in the bread [00:24:47] which is weed killer commonly found in [00:24:48] Roundup, right? Like this is totally [00:24:50] unacceptable and so we want to help [00:24:53] provide truth and accountability and [00:24:55] just give consumers the information so [00:24:57] they can make informed decisions [00:25:00] >> and and some of these results are pretty [00:25:01] astonishing. So so far you guys have [00:25:03] done baby formula, you've done candy, [00:25:05] and you've done bread. The candy results [00:25:07] I think were the ones that actually got [00:25:09] the most attention because again we all [00:25:11] know that when we hand our kids candy it [00:25:12] ain't great for them. But we don't think [00:25:13] that there's arsenic in it. But it turns [00:25:15] out that actually some of these candies [00:25:16] have a non-insignificant portion of [00:25:18] arsenic apparently. [00:25:20] >> Yeah. Right. And the problem lies in [00:25:22] aggregate. We're not talking about one [00:25:24] piece of candy on one day. But no child [00:25:27] is eating one piece of candy on one day [00:25:29] and not eating candy for the rest of the [00:25:31] year. Right? When we look at it through [00:25:33] our risk analysis, it is how much candy [00:25:35] are they eating and consumption over the [00:25:37] course of a year and what does that mean [00:25:39] as far as the intake of arsenic and [00:25:41] being problematic. So what we saw for [00:25:43] instance with nerds if you eat more than [00:25:45] 86 nerds over the course of a year as a [00:25:48] child you are exceeding the allowable [00:25:50] safe threshold as I put in air quotes of [00:25:52] arsenic for a child. If you eat more [00:25:54] than six Jolly Ranchers you are [00:25:56] exceeding the allowable level of arsenic [00:25:58] uh for children. And so when you think [00:26:01] about Halloween and Valentine's Day [00:26:03] coming up and Christmas and even [00:26:05] yesterday I made the example of when I [00:26:07] was in a store with my daughter in CVS [00:26:09] and you know she's you know pulling at [00:26:11] my shirts sleeve because she wants a [00:26:13] candy, you know, and I just want to try [00:26:15] to pacify her so I don't cause a big [00:26:18] scene. You know, you will just [00:26:19] instinctively like, okay, sure, what is [00:26:20] one piece of candy and how can it be [00:26:22] problematic? Well, when you make those [00:26:24] decisions in aggregate, you know, every [00:26:25] week or every month or over the course [00:26:27] of a year, you can see how this adds up. [00:26:29] And it goes back to this fundamental [00:26:31] principle that parents have a right to [00:26:34] know what is in the food so they can [00:26:36] make informed decisions to protect their [00:26:38] health and certainly the health of their [00:26:40] children. [00:26:40] >> So, what has been the reaction from some [00:26:42] of the candy companies to to all of [00:26:43] this? Because you're presenting data. I [00:26:45] assume that they're not particularly [00:26:46] happy with people believing that if you [00:26:48] eat too many nerds that that you're [00:26:51] going to be consuming unsafe levels of [00:26:53] arsenic. So, what's been their response [00:26:55] so far? [00:26:56] >> Well, you know, I'll let them speak for [00:26:57] themselves. I don't think that they're [00:26:59] arguing that there is indeed arsenic in [00:27:01] the products. And so, when we look at it [00:27:03] in our analysis, it is in aggregate. The [00:27:05] silver lining though in a lot of this, [00:27:07] Ben, is yes, while we found a lot of the [00:27:09] name brand candies did have problematic [00:27:11] levels of arsenic when you're eating it [00:27:12] in aggregate over the course of a year, [00:27:15] there are candies that didn't have any [00:27:17] trace levels of arsenic in it. And also, [00:27:20] we saw candies in the healthy side, [00:27:22] right? It sounds a little oxymoronic, [00:27:23] but the healthier varietal or the [00:27:25] organic varietal that didn't have it, [00:27:27] which tells you a couple of things. One, [00:27:29] it can be done right. You can [00:27:30] manufacture this stuff better so that [00:27:32] you don't have arsenic. It is not [00:27:33] inevitable. And also I see as more [00:27:36] parents get informed about this, they [00:27:38] will vote with their pocketbook, right? [00:27:40] They're going to go and buy the things [00:27:42] that they deem to be better for their [00:27:43] children. And that by inertia is then [00:27:46] going to hopefully kind of tip the [00:27:48] scales a little bit of these companies [00:27:49] to make better decisions as it pertains [00:27:51] to their products. So we have a safer [00:27:53] safer uh uh array of food out there. And [00:27:56] the organic and the healthy ones by and [00:27:59] large of the ones we tested, I think [00:28:00] there were eight or nine. Two were a [00:28:02] little bit problematic, but not by much. [00:28:04] But the rest of them were good. So I can [00:28:06] see, you know, as more of the consumer [00:28:08] gets uh consumer folks get more educated [00:28:11] about all of this that companies [00:28:13] hopefully will want to start shifting [00:28:15] down this road because they're going to [00:28:16] see there's this huge market of informed [00:28:18] consumers that just want better options. [00:28:20] >> Now, we talked about candy. Obviously, [00:28:22] we're talking about some of the other [00:28:23] staple products that that people are [00:28:25] using, things like baby formula. You [00:28:26] don't have a choice very often when [00:28:28] you're using baby formula. What are what [00:28:29] are you finding when it comes to baby [00:28:30] formula? [00:28:31] >> Oh, yeah. So, this is one of the most [00:28:32] ridiculous things that I think that we [00:28:34] we've seen and that's why we started [00:28:35] with baby formula because these are [00:28:37] obviously this is all that kids are [00:28:39] going to be consuming sometimes for the [00:28:41] first year or two of their life. Like I [00:28:43] tried to breastfeed as long as I could, [00:28:44] but there came a point when I went back [00:28:46] to work where I had to supplement. You [00:28:48] know, I was going down store aisles and [00:28:50] I was looking at baby formula making an [00:28:52] assumption based on trust that [00:28:54] everything there was safe, right? So [00:28:57] when you find problematic levels of [00:28:59] arsenic, cadmium, mercury, you know, all [00:29:02] of this arsenic, like it's really [00:29:05] unnerving. But here's the other [00:29:06] unnerving part of it. This is not new, [00:29:08] right? So if you go back to last year, [00:29:10] Consumer Review came out with a review [00:29:12] of a lot of these baby formulas and they [00:29:14] found there were problematic levels of [00:29:16] these contaminants, right? And you [00:29:17] remember rightfully so, Secretary [00:29:19] Kennedy, President uh Trump, they went [00:29:22] out and did Operation Stor and they did [00:29:25] they said we need to go in and test, [00:29:27] right? Good. 100% the right avenue to [00:29:29] take. Applaud their efforts. Here we are [00:29:32] with the independent testing of the [00:29:33] Florida Department of Health and there's [00:29:35] no change, right? We're seeing still [00:29:37] problematic levels and it's not okay. So [00:29:41] now we're trying to say, "Hey guys, you [00:29:43] need to do a better job." And so I think [00:29:45] through the accountability in the [00:29:46] sunlight, going on and talking to, you [00:29:48] know, your viewers, going on and just [00:29:51] informing the consumer base to make [00:29:54] better informed decisions, I think that [00:29:55] that can help push. I do think that [00:29:57] there might be some statutory reforms [00:29:59] that might be done. For instance, right [00:30:01] now, uh, they are required by law to [00:30:03] test for things like salmonella before [00:30:05] the formula leaves the factory. Well, my [00:30:08] thing is is could we not just have them [00:30:11] also test for lead and mercury and [00:30:13] arsenic? I mean, you know, we're talking [00:30:15] about babies here, right? And the [00:30:17] ramifications of having these heavy [00:30:19] metals in food is is really problematic. [00:30:22] It doesn't just simply leave the system. [00:30:24] And our surgeon general would say your [00:30:26] risk of getting cancer over the course [00:30:28] of your lifetime by consuming these [00:30:30] heavy metals and pesticides early in [00:30:32] life, that risk goes up by 20%. That's [00:30:35] not okay, right? As a former cancer [00:30:37] survivor, okay, that's not cool. We [00:30:40] don't want to do this. We want better [00:30:41] options and we want consumers to be [00:30:43] informed. [00:30:44] >> Well, that's first lady of Florida Casey [00:30:45] Dance is heading up the healthy Florida [00:30:46] first initiative. First lady, thanks so [00:30:48] much for the time. Really appreciate it. [00:30:50] >> Hey, thanks Ben. Keep up the great work. [00:30:52] >> And meanwhile, on the sort of it's okay [00:30:54] to be proud of America storyline. Over [00:30:57] at the Olympics, controversy broke out [00:31:00] over the last couple of days when USA [00:31:01] freestyle skiers Chris Lilis and Hunter [00:31:03] Hess were asked about representing the [00:31:05] United States and they talked about [00:31:06] their mixed emotions. Don't do this, [00:31:08] guys. Don't do this. You want to have [00:31:10] critiques of of the presidency, go for [00:31:12] it. But to say you have mixed emotions [00:31:14] about representing the greatest country [00:31:15] in the history of the world, no. Then [00:31:17] don't represent it. Then seriously, [00:31:19] don't represent it. Don't do it. You [00:31:20] don't have to. Nobody Nobody thought [00:31:23] that you were deeply necessary. But [00:31:25] here's what it sounded like. I feel [00:31:28] heartbroken about what's happened in the [00:31:30] United States when it, you know, I'm [00:31:32] pretty sure you're referencing ICE and [00:31:33] some of the protests and things like [00:31:34] that. [00:31:36] Uh I think that as a country we need to [00:31:39] focus on respecting everybody's rights [00:31:41] and uh making sure that we're treating [00:31:43] our citizens as well as anybody with [00:31:45] love and respect. And uh I hope that [00:31:48] when people look at athletes compete in [00:31:50] the Olympics, they realize that that's [00:31:52] the America that we're trying to [00:31:53] represent. It brings up mixed emotions [00:31:55] to represent the US right now. I think [00:31:58] um it's a little hard. Um there's [00:32:00] obviously a lot going on that I'm not [00:32:02] the biggest fan of and I think a lot of [00:32:04] people aren't. if it aligns with my [00:32:06] moral values. Um, I feel like I'm [00:32:08] representing it. Uh, just because I'm [00:32:10] wearing the flag doesn't mean I [00:32:12] represent everything that's going on in [00:32:13] the US. [00:32:16] Okay guys, no, no one asked for that. No [00:32:18] one asked for that. You can say, listen, [00:32:19] my politics have nothing to do with my [00:32:20] pride in representing my country, which [00:32:22] is the greatest country in the history [00:32:23] of the world. That's all you have to [00:32:24] say. President Trump naturally was [00:32:26] concerned about this and ticked about [00:32:27] it. He put out a statement on Truth [00:32:29] Social. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess, a [00:32:31] real loser, says he doesn't represent [00:32:33] his country in the current Winter [00:32:34] Olympics. If that's the case, he [00:32:35] shouldn't have tried out for the team, [00:32:36] and it's too bad he's on it. Very hard [00:32:38] to root for someone like this, make [00:32:40] America great again. And again, all I I [00:32:43] think a huge percentage of Americans, [00:32:45] all we're asking for truly all we're [00:32:46] asking for is a baseline level of love [00:32:48] of country. Like true love of country. [00:32:50] That's all. That's all. Do all the [00:32:53] things from the halftime show to skiing [00:32:56] for the United States at the Olympics. [00:32:58] just exhibit love of country. [00:33:00] It's not that much to ask and honestly [00:33:02] it is the reason why President Trump has [00:33:04] been so successful because he does not [00:33:07] have politically consistent positions [00:33:09] the president. But what he does level [00:33:10] does have is a gut level patriotism and [00:33:13] I think the vast majority of Americans [00:33:14] share that which is why the make America [00:33:16] great again movement has been [00:33:18] successful. Now going back to the things [00:33:20] that will make the make America great [00:33:21] again movement not successful. One of [00:33:23] those things would be tweeting out [00:33:24] idiotic and and terrible videos showing [00:33:26] the Obamas as monkeys. That would be a [00:33:28] terrible, stupid thing to do. Truly, it [00:33:31] was taken down from Truth Social. Uh, as [00:33:34] I predicted, I told you. I told you [00:33:36] this, okay? And there are people in the [00:33:38] media who are upset that I said this, [00:33:39] but it was clearly true. President Trump [00:33:41] tweeted out a video. The video, which I [00:33:43] think was unverified in terms of its [00:33:46] actual content, talked about voting [00:33:48] machines in Georgia and the flaws in the [00:33:49] voting machines. And the president, of [00:33:51] course, is very caught up in all of the [00:33:55] hubbub about voting machines in in [00:33:57] Georgia because he still maintains he [00:33:58] won the 2020 election. He said, at the [00:34:00] very tail end of that video, there's a [00:34:01] graphic that popped up of Barack and [00:34:03] Michelle Obama as apes. It's really [00:34:05] gross. It's racist and it's ugly and [00:34:07] it's stupid. And at first, the [00:34:09] administration tried to claim that he [00:34:10] didn't put it up. They said that some [00:34:12] sort of intern put it up, which of [00:34:13] course is not true. The president is the [00:34:15] only one who's posting on truth social. [00:34:17] And the president says he didn't see the [00:34:18] whole thing, which was clearly the case. [00:34:20] I told you the president does not have [00:34:22] the attention span to watch through a [00:34:23] full one minute video that he is. If you [00:34:25] think he's watching every video that [00:34:27] he's putting up on Truth Social, you're [00:34:28] out of your mind. Here's the president [00:34:29] basically saying that. [00:34:32] >> I looked at it. I saw it and I just [00:34:34] looked at the first part. It was about [00:34:35] voter fraud in someplace, Georgia. There [00:34:38] was a lot of voter fraud, 2020 voter [00:34:40] fraud. And I didn't see the whole thing. [00:34:43] I guess toward the end of it, there was [00:34:46] uh some kind of a picture that people [00:34:49] don't like. I wouldn't like it either, [00:34:50] but I didn't see it. I just I looked at [00:34:52] the first part and it was really about [00:34:54] voter fraud in uh and and the machines, [00:34:58] how crooked it is, how disgusting it is. [00:35:00] Uh then I gave it to the people to [00:35:03] generally they look at the whole thing, [00:35:05] but I guess somebody didn't and they [00:35:06] posted and we took it down. [00:35:10] >> Okay. So, yeah. Duh. That's what I said [00:35:12] last week. Duh. And yeah, I think he's [00:35:15] telling the truth because I don't think [00:35:16] that the president again watches through [00:35:17] any of the videos that he posts. If they [00:35:19] have nice pictures of President Trump, [00:35:21] he puts them up. This has been true for [00:35:23] his videos for legitimately 10 years. [00:35:24] The stuff that he puts on social media. [00:35:26] And President Trump condemned the racist [00:35:28] part of the video. Of course. [00:35:30] >> Do you condemn the racist parts of the [00:35:32] video? [00:35:33] >> Of course I do. [00:35:35] >> Yeah. [00:35:38] >> Okay. So, I mean, yes. Okay. So, don't [00:35:40] make that sort of mistake. That's a dumb [00:35:41] mistake. is dumb. Now, what's amazing to [00:35:43] me is truly that the left gets away with [00:35:46] extraordinary open racism and everybody [00:35:49] pretends it's not going on. So, for [00:35:50] example, Representative Gene Woo, who is [00:35:52] in the Texas House of Representatives, [00:35:55] he basically spills out his program. He [00:35:57] says that minorities need to side [00:36:00] against the white man. This is an [00:36:01] elected official in Texas. [00:36:04] The day the Latino, African-American, [00:36:08] Asian, and other communities realize [00:36:11] that they are that they share the same [00:36:14] oppressor is the day we start winning [00:36:16] because we are the majority in this [00:36:18] country now. We are we we have the [00:36:21] ability to take over this country and to [00:36:23] do what is needed for everyone. [00:36:26] Okay, so that is um a problem. See, that [00:36:29] seems to be much more problematic just [00:36:30] in terms of thoroughgoing ideology than [00:36:33] President Trump tweeting out a racist [00:36:35] meme, not having watched the end of it, [00:36:37] which is legitimately what happened. If [00:36:39] your thoroughgoing ideology is all [00:36:40] minorities against the white guy, that [00:36:42] is a massive, massive issue in American [00:36:44] life. It really is. And the left seems [00:36:46] to be embracing this more and more. This [00:36:47] is why, again, the biggest thing for the [00:36:49] Trump administration is make your policy [00:36:52] choices, which are designed to benefit [00:36:54] Americans, all Americans. Make those [00:36:57] clear. Be consistent in their [00:36:59] application. Take down the rhetoric. [00:37:02] Just enforce. Just do the baseline [00:37:04] business of governing and let the left [00:37:05] spin out. That would be the advice to [00:37:07] the Trump administration for 2026. [00:37:09] Thank God the Trump administration is [00:37:11] now doing that with regard to sanctuary [00:37:13] cities by putting Tom Hman, an adult, in [00:37:15] charge of the policy. Here is Tom H. [00:37:16] Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. [00:37:16] Home. Home. Home. Homeman over the [00:37:17] weekend criticizing politicians double [00:37:19] speak on sanctuary cities. [00:37:22] But for the politicians that say, "We [00:37:24] want you to arrest the criminals. We [00:37:26] want you to target the criminals, but [00:37:28] not let me in the jails, you can't [00:37:30] square that. If if you really want to [00:37:32] arrest the criminals and target the [00:37:34] criminals, which I do, then let us do it [00:37:36] in the safety and security of a of a [00:37:38] jail or prison where it's safer for for [00:37:41] the alien, safer for the community, and [00:37:43] safer for the agents." So for those and [00:37:45] there's many of them on both sides of [00:37:47] the aisle says public safety threats are [00:37:50] what you should be concentrating on. So [00:37:52] everybody should come together and make [00:37:55] that happen and and give us access to [00:37:57] the jail. [00:37:59] >> Again, this sort of lowkey [00:38:02] advocacy for the basic intervention of [00:38:06] law enforcement. That's the way to go. [00:38:08] That's the thing that the Republicans [00:38:09] should be doing right now, especially [00:38:10] because Democrats continue to spin out [00:38:13] on the immigration issue. truly spin out [00:38:14] on it. Over the weekend, Zor Mandani in [00:38:17] New York signed an executive order to [00:38:18] restrict ICE in New York City. He [00:38:20] restricted access to city property, [00:38:22] barred federal government from accessing [00:38:23] city data, and mandated training for [00:38:25] city employees on where they do and [00:38:26] don't need to cooperate with ICE. And [00:38:29] then he went ahead and cited the Quran [00:38:31] in support of anti-IC policy which uh [00:38:34] dude mad dude all right [00:38:38] the story of the hijra reminds us that [00:38:41] prophet Muhammad [00:38:43] was a stranger too who fled Mecca and [00:38:46] was welcomed in Medina. Surah Nah 16:42 [00:38:50] tells us as for those who immigrated in [00:38:53] the cause of Allah after being [00:38:54] persecuted we will surely bless them [00:38:56] with a good home in this world or as the [00:38:59] prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi [00:39:01] wasallam said Islam began as something [00:39:04] strange and will go back to being [00:39:06] strange so glad tidings to the strangers [00:39:11] okay he also then proceeded to invade [00:39:13] the entire Middle East and slaughter [00:39:15] people who did not adhere to his [00:39:16] religion so there there was some of that [00:39:17] happening as well in Quranic times. [00:39:20] Yeah, things are getting weird out [00:39:22] there. Meanwhile, over in Minnesota, [00:39:24] anti-ICE riers were attacking cars with [00:39:26] sex toys, which seems like a a very [00:39:30] strange thing to do. I I'm not sure I [00:39:33] understand the logic of attacking a car [00:39:34] with a dildo, but I guess here we are. [00:39:38] Also, I I find it somewhat unsurprising [00:39:40] that the Minnesota ICE protesters have [00:39:42] such a rich supply of dildos to hurl. [00:39:51] So there they are throwing uh throwing [00:39:54] sex toys at the at the ICE vehicles, [00:39:57] which um [00:39:59] that's a interesting. [00:40:03] You did it. You saved America. Great [00:40:06] job, guys. [00:40:08] That's a lot of bored white people out [00:40:09] there in Minneapolis in the cold [00:40:11] throwing sex toys that presumably they [00:40:13] got from their night side stands at the [00:40:15] uh at the ice vehicles. Great great job [00:40:18] everyone. And of course you have Don [00:40:20] Lemon who's still out there that no one [00:40:21] is happier than Don Lemon about what [00:40:22] happened to Don Lemon comparing himself [00:40:24] to civil rights leaders of the past. [00:40:26] Yes, you two are a civil rights leader [00:40:27] if you allegedly coordinate with people [00:40:30] to go inside a church and harass the [00:40:31] parishioners. [00:40:34] In my time when I was there, I thought [00:40:36] about all the people who'd come before [00:40:37] me. I thought about all of the people [00:40:40] who fought for civil rights, who fought [00:40:41] for gay rights, all the people who were [00:40:43] at Stonewall, Marcia P. Clark. I'm like, [00:40:45] "Yes, those are the people. Those are [00:40:46] the real heroes." And so what's [00:40:49] happening to me, I have at least in this [00:40:51] time that I'm living now, more agency, [00:40:55] more resources, more rights, and I would [00:40:58] hope than the people who were fighting [00:41:00] for our freedom and our civil rights. [00:41:07] >> So much heroism. Okay, so the Democrats [00:41:09] are doing that. So all Republicans have [00:41:10] to do is implement basically good policy [00:41:13] in a low-key way, and they will benefit [00:41:15] from doing this. this is a thing they [00:41:17] will benefit from. Now that of course [00:41:18] assumes that the economy continues to [00:41:21] sail forward and that is an open [00:41:24] question right now. Lot of lot of [00:41:27] crossurrens in the economy right now. [00:41:29] Obviously the Dow Jones Industrial [00:41:31] Average continues to sore. It it closed [00:41:33] above 50,000 for the first time on [00:41:36] Friday. [00:41:38] It's been doing great. Okay, with all [00:41:40] that said, when it comes to, for [00:41:43] example, employment, there is a deep [00:41:45] freeze that has enveloped the US labor [00:41:46] market. According to the Wall Street [00:41:48] Journal, the pace of hiring in America [00:41:49] has dropped precipitously. There isn't a [00:41:51] single reason why. Instead, there are a [00:41:52] lot of them. Uncertainty over tariff [00:41:54] policy, high short-term interest rates. [00:41:57] Workers aren't leaving the jobs that [00:41:59] they have right now, and of course, a [00:42:02] lot of concerns that AI is going to wipe [00:42:05] out large swaths of the job market by [00:42:07] replacing a lot of labor. All those are [00:42:09] very very serious concerns and those [00:42:11] concerns are leading people to feel [00:42:12] worried about the economy even if the [00:42:14] stock market is doing great [00:42:16] because there has been a stall in tech [00:42:18] employment starting November 2022. [00:42:22] There's some evidence that AI is is [00:42:24] filtering down into the markets. Amazon [00:42:26] obviously cutting out jobs. AI is wiping [00:42:28] out certain value in the market while [00:42:30] propping up value in the AI end of the [00:42:32] market. So software companies took it [00:42:33] right on the chin last week because [00:42:35] there are so many things that AI is now [00:42:37] doing that used to be the preserve of [00:42:38] software companies. [00:42:41] So the president is trying to run the [00:42:43] economy hot apparently running up to the [00:42:45] election. So that is why presumably he [00:42:46] wants the interest rates lowered. He is [00:42:48] hoping that there will be more liquidity [00:42:50] available and that will mean more [00:42:51] hiring. The question is whether the [00:42:53] uncertainty over AI is is preventing [00:42:55] people from hiring up because they [00:42:57] believe that AI is going to develop such [00:42:59] that they don't need to hire a lot of [00:43:00] other people. Again, economic [00:43:01] uncertainty always harms presidencies [00:43:04] and we are in an off-ear election that's [00:43:06] always bad for the party in power with [00:43:07] very few exceptions. All of that is [00:43:10] true, but the biggest thing the Trump [00:43:11] administration can do and speak [00:43:13] rationally to the American people, show [00:43:15] that you are doing things on the topics [00:43:17] that they care about and be calm and [00:43:18] collected in your approach to the [00:43:20] American public considering that the [00:43:21] left is spinning out. Joining me on the [00:43:23] line is Winston Marshall, host of the [00:43:24] Winston Marshall Show, co-founder of the [00:43:26] Dissident Dialogues Festival of Ideas [00:43:28] and a former member of the Grammy [00:43:29] Award-winning folk rock band Mumford and [00:43:31] Sons. Winston, of course, covers [00:43:33] everything political in the UK as well. [00:43:35] Winston, thanks so much for taking time. [00:43:36] Really appreciate it. [00:43:38] >> All right, Ben, thanks for having me. [00:43:41] >> So, one of the things that's really [00:43:42] fascinating that's been going on [00:43:44] obviously is what's surrounding Kirst [00:43:46] and team in the UK because of Jeffrey [00:43:48] Epstein. So while the focus in the [00:43:50] United States has been on largecale [00:43:52] unsupportable [00:43:54] conspiracy theorizing about what Epstein [00:43:56] did didn't do, the suggestion that [00:43:57] Jeffrey Epstein is the head of an [00:43:59] international intelligence ring on [00:44:01] behalf of a foreign power trafficking in [00:44:03] little girls or whatever there actually [00:44:05] is there there is supportable scandal, [00:44:06] right? That that stuff that I said [00:44:07] before that's all conspiracy conjecture [00:44:09] at this point based on the reams of [00:44:11] evidence that we have seen. It is beyond [00:44:12] the evidence. But the one thing that we [00:44:14] do know is that there were members of [00:44:16] the Kierst Starmer administration in the [00:44:19] UK who have been forced to resign [00:44:21] because of their connection with Jeffrey [00:44:23] Epstein. Not necessarily because of [00:44:25] trafficking in women or girls, but [00:44:28] because of actual business corruption. [00:44:31] Maybe you can fill us in. [00:44:33] >> Uh well, I'm gonna try and fill you in. [00:44:35] I have just spent the last four or five [00:44:38] days in full white boat whiteboard meme [00:44:42] uh mode trying to piece this all [00:44:44] together. It is quite literally a [00:44:45] bottomless pit of information and it [00:44:48] seems that Jeffrey Epstein might indeed [00:44:50] be taking down the Star government from [00:44:53] beyond the grave. Some people might [00:44:55] think that he is saving Britain actually [00:44:57] from beyond the grave although there [00:44:58] could be much worse things around the [00:45:00] corner. Now I joke about it but it is an [00:45:02] absolutely disgusting story. It's been [00:45:05] brought me no pleasure whatsoever going [00:45:07] into this but it is not just a case that [00:45:11] Starmmer we this might be the last week [00:45:13] of Star's uh as prime minister but uh it [00:45:17] is also a a corruption scandal as you [00:45:21] say it's got political sleas in it but [00:45:23] it's also the epitome maybe I should say [00:45:26] the nadilla of crony capitalism all in [00:45:29] one story so I'm going to attempt to [00:45:32] break this down for you it's Not easy. [00:45:36] There have been six new revelations [00:45:39] about Mandlesson's relationship with [00:45:42] Epstein from the January 30th trench. [00:45:45] But I need to explain to you [00:45:47] >> about Peter Mand. Peter Mandlesson. Yes. [00:45:49] >> Yes. [00:45:49] >> Yes. [00:45:50] >> I need to explain to you who Peter [00:45:51] Mandlesson is. Peter Mandlesson is a [00:45:55] Labor Party grande. His grandfather was [00:45:59] part setting up the Labour Party at the [00:46:02] beginning of the last century. His [00:46:03] grandfather Herbert Morrison was also in [00:46:06] Churchill's war cabinet and famously was [00:46:09] had many clashes with Churchill. They [00:46:11] were sort of ideologically opposed from [00:46:13] each other. But not only that, [00:46:15] Mandlesson is regarded was regarded at [00:46:19] the time as the dark prince behind Tony [00:46:23] Blair and Gordon Brown and the new labor [00:46:25] movement from 97 to 2010. It the dark [00:46:29] prince is a name, by the way, that he [00:46:30] embraced very happily. He is known as [00:46:34] being sort of the archetypal Machaveli [00:46:37] and in fact I actually met him once when [00:46:39] he was ambassador and that was my [00:46:41] experience. He he seemed to me to be a [00:46:42] total Makavel. [00:46:45] So having had his political career where [00:46:49] he started as uh doing uh campaigning, [00:46:52] then became an MP for a while, got [00:46:55] himself up to being deputy prime [00:46:58] minister uh uh under Gordon Brown and [00:47:02] had various ministerial roles up until [00:47:05] 2010 when the the Tories uh took power [00:47:08] in the coalition with the Liberal [00:47:09] Democrats at which point he pivots to [00:47:12] the private sector which we'll come back [00:47:14] to the point though is that in that [00:47:17] period even then his career was filled [00:47:21] with scandal which I'd love to go into [00:47:24] but there's too many other present [00:47:25] scandals for us to address. So he became [00:47:29] he was appointed in February 2025 as [00:47:32] ambassador to DC and this was by K star. [00:47:38] Now in February 2025, [00:47:41] it was in the public domain already as [00:47:44] revealed by the FT in June 2023 that [00:47:48] star uh that Mandlesson had maintained a [00:47:51] postconviction relationship with Epstein [00:47:53] i.e. after Epstein had been convicted in [00:47:56] 2008, Mandles continued his friendship [00:47:59] with him. In that 2023 uh expose by the [00:48:03] FT, we learned that he even stayed at uh [00:48:07] Epstein's Paris apartment during [00:48:11] Epstein's prison time and that they had [00:48:14] communications after which Epstein would [00:48:17] call him PY. They were they were they [00:48:19] were friends. Then he becomes uh [00:48:25] ambassador in February 2025. September [00:48:28] 2025, we have the first tranch of [00:48:31] Epstein files, famously the birthday [00:48:34] message, the big birthday uh I don't [00:48:38] know if you've gone through that book, [00:48:39] it's like a 250 page uh uh document of [00:48:43] sort of memories of Epstein and messages [00:48:45] from friends. And in that birthday book, [00:48:49] he says Mandlesson calls Epstein his [00:48:53] best pal and uh that he loves him. And [00:48:57] what's important to remember though is [00:48:58] that birthday book was from 2003. So [00:49:01] preconviction. So you might say, oh [00:49:04] well, you know that it's not necessarily [00:49:06] the case that he knew about the the sort [00:49:08] of dastardly disgusting behavior. [00:49:11] But it was also the case then that there [00:49:13] was evidence of a post208 relationship [00:49:18] and it was also evidence that he flew on [00:49:20] Epstein's jet and [00:49:23] um it shows an ongoing communication. So [00:49:26] in other words, [00:49:28] we knew that they were friends post [00:49:31] conviction. Why this is important is [00:49:33] because although there is new [00:49:34] information that's been released over [00:49:36] the last week in this new trench from [00:49:38] January 30th and it's pretty disgusting [00:49:41] information when it comes to the sleas [00:49:45] we've actually known the core salient [00:49:48] issues all along and why this is also [00:49:51] important that your American viewers [00:49:52] might not have picked up on is in the [00:49:53] British media and across the British [00:49:55] nation it is the sleas that everyone is [00:49:57] focusing on. The bottom line in all of [00:49:59] this is that Peter Mandlesson was a [00:50:01] close deputy of the prime minister Kier [00:50:04] Starmer. He was appointed even though it [00:50:05] was clearly public that he had [00:50:07] relationship with Epstein. The things [00:50:08] that we're finding out right now are [00:50:10] that there there were actual lawbreaking [00:50:13] activities happening between Mandlesen [00:50:15] and Epste going back years. Uh as you [00:50:17] mentioned a criminal investigation into [00:50:18] Mandlesen for having leaked insider [00:50:20] government information to Epste that he [00:50:22] then used to trade off of and and this [00:50:24] could bring down Kier Starmer's [00:50:25] government. uh just today his chief of [00:50:27] staff had to resign over all of this. [00:50:30] That'd be Morgan Mweeny, his chief of [00:50:32] staff who had to resign over his role in [00:50:34] the appointment of Mandlesen. If [00:50:36] Starmmer were to go down right now, [00:50:38] according to virtually every opinion [00:50:39] poll, the leader in the clubhouse right [00:50:41] now is the Reform Party. If there were [00:50:42] to be a new election that were to hold, [00:50:44] if if there were if he weren't to be [00:50:45] replaced simply as prime minister, if [00:50:47] there were to be an actual collapse in [00:50:49] his coalition and suddenly there were a [00:50:50] new election to be held, the Reform [00:50:52] Party is the chief beneficiary. The [00:50:53] Labor Party is in quite low odor. It has [00:50:56] now fallen in many polls below the [00:50:57] Conservative Party, which was basically [00:50:58] dead as a doornail just a couple of [00:51:00] years ago. And some of this has to be [00:51:02] due not just to Kirst's poor governor [00:51:04] governance, but also to the Epstein [00:51:06] scandal. [00:51:08] >> Yes. Except I think it's very unlikely [00:51:10] that Labour Party will have an election. [00:51:13] They know how unpopular they are. That [00:51:15] means that all of them will lose their [00:51:17] job. They also hate reform because they [00:51:20] think reform are far right. So they [00:51:22] won't have an election because they kn [00:51:24] they know reform will sweep through and [00:51:26] have a a stalking majority in parliament [00:51:29] making Nigel Farage prime minister. That [00:51:31] would be their um worst nightmare. So I [00:51:33] don't think we're going to see an [00:51:35] election. What I think is more likely is [00:51:38] that Starmmer will either resign or say [00:51:40] that he'll resign after the May council [00:51:43] elections. There's two other things [00:51:44] going on with regards to um party [00:51:46] politics. There's a bi-election going on [00:51:49] in South Manchester in Gaunton and [00:51:51] Denton where I was just on the weekend [00:51:54] uh visiting uh voters but uh there's [00:51:56] also these council elections which [00:51:59] probably Labour will get smashed um and [00:52:02] at that point it will be seen that he is [00:52:06] unenable [00:52:07] to stay as prime minister. So then [00:52:10] there'll be he'll stay probably until [00:52:12] there's uh interparty elections and they [00:52:15] decide between themselves who the new uh [00:52:18] prime minister and leader would be. I [00:52:21] can run through some of the the likely [00:52:23] um candidates I if you want there but [00:52:26] suffice to say that all of them are are [00:52:28] further left than here starama. He is [00:52:31] actually the best of a bad bunch and [00:52:33] they are also it would seem far less [00:52:36] competent than Stara. So that's why I [00:52:40] say epste and I joked at the beginning [00:52:41] epste might have made things much worse [00:52:43] for Britain and that might be on the [00:52:45] horizon. [00:52:48] >> Well that is Winston Marshall. Go check [00:52:49] out all of his ideas over at the Winston [00:52:52] Marshall show and you can check out all [00:52:54] of his social media as well. Winston, [00:52:55] thanks so much for the time and the [00:52:56] insight. [00:52:58] >> Thanks Ben. [00:53:00] >> All righty, folks. The show is [00:53:01] continuing for our members right now. [00:53:02] The American military buildup in the [00:53:03] Middle East continues. Plus, we will [00:53:06] bring you the latest on the kidnapping [00:53:07] of Nancy Guthrie, which that situation [00:53:10] still is unfolding. Remember, in order [00:53:12] to watch, you have to be a member. If [00:53:13] you're not a member, become a member. [00:53:14] Use code Shapiro. 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