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[00:00:00] Holaene
[00:00:01] Alben Shapiro show. Yeah. So, I had to
[00:00:04] learn Spanish so I could understand the
[00:00:06] halftime show over at the Super Bowl.
[00:00:08] And I have a lot of thoughts. I have a
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[00:00:49] Overall, honestly, like great production
[00:00:52] value. I understand this halftime show
[00:00:53] is not aimed at me. I listen to
[00:00:55] classical music and there was the usual
[00:00:58] plethora of butts on the screen which
[00:01:01] again has become common to all halftime
[00:01:03] shows unfortunately. But overall in
[00:01:05] terms of the production value production
[00:01:07] value incredible incredible I was very
[00:01:10] much in favor of a couple actually
[00:01:11] getting married like a straight couple
[00:01:12] getting married in the middle of the
[00:01:13] halftime show. And by the way, I did
[00:01:15] enjoy the entire wedding production
[00:01:19] dance with Lady Gaga as the wedding
[00:01:21] singer and even the kid falling asleep
[00:01:23] on the chairs, which I've been told by
[00:01:26] some of my producers, producer savvy, is
[00:01:28] of Latina extraction. And also, Fabby,
[00:01:32] the makeup lady, is is Puerto Rican. And
[00:01:34] so, they told me that this is like a
[00:01:36] common thing at Latino weddings. It is
[00:01:39] also a common thing at Jewish weddings
[00:01:40] where where everybody goes too late and
[00:01:42] the kids are all sleeping on the chairs.
[00:01:43] a comment again. Charming. I enjoyed
[00:01:46] that. The the staging was immaculate.
[00:01:49] All of that is is fine.
[00:01:52] So, let's start with that. Here is sort
[00:01:55] of my generalized critique. There is a
[00:01:57] thing that goes on in American culture
[00:01:58] that is highly irritating to me. And
[00:02:00] that thing is where everyone celebrates
[00:02:03] a thing that is left-leaning in nature
[00:02:05] politically. And then if you notice the
[00:02:07] thing is happening, they tell you that
[00:02:08] you're crazy and why are you focusing on
[00:02:10] it? and you are just over your skis and
[00:02:12] why are you so upset? So, let's start
[00:02:14] with this again. I'm not particularly
[00:02:16] upset by halftime shows at the Super
[00:02:18] Bowl because who cares in the grand
[00:02:20] scheme of life? Is this a big deal? No,
[00:02:23] it is not a big deal. The reason that
[00:02:25] some people are concerned today or upset
[00:02:28] today is because really I think the end
[00:02:31] of the performance. So, let's start with
[00:02:34] this. Again, I am not a bad bunny fan.
[00:02:36] To me, I don't know whether he's a good
[00:02:37] bunny, a bad bunny, or the worst bunny.
[00:02:38] have no gradation. I have no scale upon
[00:02:41] which to judge his badness of bunniness.
[00:02:43] I I do not know his music. I did not
[00:02:45] understand a word he was saying.
[00:02:46] Frankly, it seemed to me as a person who
[00:02:48] again does not traffic in this music and
[00:02:50] doesn't listen to this music that when I
[00:02:53] was watching the affforementioned Bad
[00:02:55] Bunny walking through the screen holding
[00:02:56] a football, gaining more yards than the
[00:02:58] New England Patriots the entire first
[00:03:00] half and and kind of saying things to me
[00:03:03] in Spanish. And I had no idea what he
[00:03:04] was saying. I will admit that it felt to
[00:03:07] me like perhaps I'd been in a car crash
[00:03:09] and there was a person walking at me
[00:03:11] telling me that I needed to get out my
[00:03:12] insurance card in a language I did not
[00:03:14] understand. So, this was not geared
[00:03:15] toward me. But again, I told you the
[00:03:18] pros. The pros are that beautifully
[00:03:21] produced,
[00:03:22] the couple getting married mid show, the
[00:03:25] kids falling asleep on the chairs, all
[00:03:26] all that was very, very charming. And I
[00:03:29] don't even have a problem with a lot of
[00:03:30] Spanish being in the show because guess
[00:03:31] what? A lot of people in the United
[00:03:32] States speak Spanish and that's totally
[00:03:34] cool. A lot of people in the United
[00:03:35] States speak a lot of second languages.
[00:03:38] There are some cons. And again, here is
[00:03:40] where you get into the gaslighting.
[00:03:43] One, one con, no English. It is fine
[00:03:47] obviously to have a lot of Spanish and
[00:03:49] not even unprecedented. I remember a few
[00:03:51] years ago, Shakira and JLo did the
[00:03:53] halftime show and I believe they did a
[00:03:54] song in Spanish. Cool. That's awesome.
[00:03:58] And of course, there are tens of
[00:03:59] millions of Latino Americans who
[00:04:01] contribute in unbelievable ways to our
[00:04:02] common project as Americans. Onethird of
[00:04:05] the American military is Latino. But why
[00:04:07] no English, right? That that's a
[00:04:09] decision. That's a decision that's being
[00:04:10] made. No English where people who don't
[00:04:12] speak Spanish don't understand what is
[00:04:14] going on. I mean, he could have been
[00:04:16] saying literally anything and I would
[00:04:17] have had no idea what he was saying.
[00:04:20] And second of all, to pretend that Bad
[00:04:22] Bunny is an apolitical figure is of
[00:04:24] course very, very silly. Bad Bunny is
[00:04:26] not an a-olitical figure. He has never
[00:04:27] pretended to be an a-olitical figure.
[00:04:31] So, for example, when he showed himself
[00:04:33] on the Grammys and then him giving a
[00:04:34] Grammy to a little kid who looked
[00:04:36] precisely like an ICE detainee. Don't
[00:04:39] tell me that this wasn't on purpose. Of
[00:04:41] course, it was on purpose. Don't be
[00:04:42] silly. Don't be silly. now.
[00:04:47] >> Okay.
[00:04:52] >> And here comes Bad Bunny to give the
[00:04:53] Grammy to the little kid who's supposed
[00:04:55] to look pretty clearly like the ICE
[00:04:57] detainee. I mean, so much so that
[00:04:59] everybody he was not, by the way. And
[00:05:01] then he starts with this stuff again.
[00:05:03] Again, not not my jam. Not my jam. the
[00:05:06] the entire I keep coming back to the
[00:05:08] production value because just as a
[00:05:09] person who enjoys a good show, the
[00:05:11] production value incredibly high.
[00:05:13] Building like an entire sugarcane field
[00:05:15] out in the middle of the Super Bowl. All
[00:05:18] those sugarcanes, by the way, were
[00:05:19] people inside the sugarcane. So, it was
[00:05:20] like the March of the Ants when they
[00:05:22] were setting that thing up, people just
[00:05:23] kind of wandering into the middle of the
[00:05:24] field.
[00:05:26] There were some weird moments.
[00:05:28] Obviously, one of his songs is is about
[00:05:29] the failure of electricity in Puerto
[00:05:32] Rico. And so people falling off of
[00:05:33] telephone lines, which if you have no
[00:05:34] frame of reference, which I really did
[00:05:36] not until I actually looked it up, I
[00:05:37] have no idea what's going on. And then
[00:05:39] when I found out, I feel like that's a
[00:05:40] very weird way to sort of tout your your
[00:05:42] home culture is and also our our
[00:05:44] electricity fails a lot. That if I were
[00:05:48] to do one for Jewish culture, I would be
[00:05:50] like, also Ashkanazic food is totally
[00:05:52] tasteless. That that'd be kind of a
[00:05:54] strange flex. We'll get to more on the
[00:05:56] Super Bowl halftime show and all the
[00:05:58] rest of our cultural questions in just
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[00:08:43] big thing that happened, right? The
[00:08:45] thing that kind of I think was the tell
[00:08:47] was that the very end of the halftime
[00:08:49] show after he's done all of this and of
[00:08:50] course it had its little political
[00:08:52] touches here and there. I already
[00:08:54] mentioned the where's Waldo of human
[00:08:56] butts that happened. Apparently some of
[00:08:57] those butts were famous butts, but
[00:08:59] there's a where's Waldo of human butts.
[00:09:01] There was also, of course, uh a little
[00:09:03] bit of LGBT content and that you had
[00:09:05] some two dudes rolling on each other. Uh
[00:09:07] it happened fairly quickly but of course
[00:09:09] was there the tell. The tell and this is
[00:09:12] this is where the real critique comes
[00:09:13] in. The tell was the end of the halftime
[00:09:16] show. So the end of the halftime show
[00:09:18] bad bunny again a less than good bunny.
[00:09:22] He's walking through and he's followed
[00:09:24] by apparently the entire World Cup
[00:09:27] contingent from the Western Hemisphere.
[00:09:29] So he walks through and he announces
[00:09:30] every single country in the Western
[00:09:33] Hemisphere, starting geographically with
[00:09:35] Argentina, like starting there and
[00:09:37] finishing up with Canada. And as he
[00:09:39] does, a bunch of people follow him
[00:09:40] carrying flags from various other
[00:09:43] countries that are not the United
[00:09:44] States. So here's what that looked like.
[00:09:48] >> Bless
[00:09:52] God bless America. Maybe his only
[00:09:53] English words. And then she starts
[00:09:55] listing countries.
[00:09:56] Let's model United Nations time now.
[00:10:01] I mean good for him for memorizing his
[00:10:02] geography
[00:10:14] Puerto Rico.
[00:10:16] >> Okay. And then he Okay. So and then he
[00:10:19] finishes he finishes with together we're
[00:10:22] all Americans. Okay. So here is the
[00:10:24] problem with this particular thing.
[00:10:26] truly
[00:10:27] celebrating Puerto Rican culture in the
[00:10:29] United States, celebrating Latino
[00:10:31] culture in the United States. Cool. One
[00:10:33] of the amazing things about America,
[00:10:34] truly amazing things, is you can both
[00:10:36] assimilate to the values of the United
[00:10:38] States and still keep the flavor of your
[00:10:41] old culture, of your common culture. You
[00:10:43] can do that. And one of the great things
[00:10:45] about America over the course of the
[00:10:48] last couple of hundred years is that you
[00:10:49] have lots of cultures that merge into
[00:10:51] the gigantic stream that is the United
[00:10:53] States, which is why every American has
[00:10:55] eaten Mexican food and Italian food and
[00:10:57] Chinese food. And that's wonderful.
[00:10:59] That's great. Now, the fact that you
[00:11:01] have weddings where you have people
[00:11:02] dancing salsa and you have weddings
[00:11:04] where you have people dancing the
[00:11:05] horror, that's wonderful. That's great.
[00:11:06] That's fine. I don't think a whole lot
[00:11:08] of Americans object to that. The
[00:11:10] question is, are you showing gratitude
[00:11:13] for America being unique? So, this I
[00:11:15] think is the reason why people are
[00:11:16] focusing on on this on a on a political
[00:11:18] level. Where is Bad Bunny's gratitude?
[00:11:21] The worst Bunny. Why is Bad Bunny's I
[00:11:23] have such a hard time saying his his
[00:11:24] stage name. Why is this person's
[00:11:27] gratitude being so hidden here? There
[00:11:30] have been other shows where he's refused
[00:11:31] to stand up for the national anthem. He
[00:11:33] is rich and he is famous because of the
[00:11:34] United States.
[00:11:36] He is living in splendor because of the
[00:11:39] United States. He is one of the greatest
[00:11:41] recipients of American large s ever
[00:11:43] because we all are. If you're born in
[00:11:45] America and if you're born in Puerto
[00:11:46] Rico, you're an American. If you're born
[00:11:48] in America, that is the greatest
[00:11:49] privilege that you can receive. So, it
[00:11:51] is my opinion that you should show some
[00:11:53] gratitude for America being unique. It
[00:11:55] seems to me American flags should have
[00:11:57] been all over the place in the middle of
[00:11:59] this demonstration. This is one of the
[00:12:00] things I think that the political left
[00:12:02] does totally wrong. It's kind of
[00:12:03] astonishing to me. The political left
[00:12:06] has the opportunity to grab the upper
[00:12:08] hand culturally with a lot of people and
[00:12:10] simultaneously celebrate the country. He
[00:12:12] could have done this entire show almost
[00:12:14] identically with American flags
[00:12:16] everywhere saying America means that you
[00:12:18] can have salsa dancing at your wedding.
[00:12:21] But that's what's amazing about America.
[00:12:23] You can do all that and still be an
[00:12:24] American who loves football and still be
[00:12:26] an American. Football is a uniquely
[00:12:28] American sport. You can still be an
[00:12:29] American who is doing all the American
[00:12:31] things and you can also enjoy these
[00:12:33] cultural variants. He could have done
[00:12:35] that bringing out the flags of foreign
[00:12:38] nations places by the way that are not
[00:12:40] purely Latino. So it wasn't just a
[00:12:41] celebration of Latino culture at the end
[00:12:43] because Canada is not Latino.
[00:12:46] Canada is there's a bunch of white
[00:12:48] people Canada generally speaking, right?
[00:12:51] Haiti is not Latino. And there are a
[00:12:54] bunch of countries in the Western
[00:12:55] Hemisphere that are actually not
[00:12:57] predominantly Latino. So what he's doing
[00:13:00] there, this kind of United Nations
[00:13:02] routine is not a celebration of America
[00:13:05] or a celebration of cultures that
[00:13:07] coexist peacefully in America or a
[00:13:09] celebration of Latino culture in
[00:13:11] America. It is a celebration
[00:13:13] of apparently everyone being American.
[00:13:16] And this is what he says. He says we're
[00:13:17] all Americans. Well, you're an American
[00:13:19] if you're in America's borders and your
[00:13:21] loyalty is to America. you're not
[00:13:23] American if you are Peruvian and you
[00:13:26] live in Peru and you spent your entire
[00:13:28] life in Peru. And his attempt to say we
[00:13:30] are all Americans by making some sort of
[00:13:32] pedantic geographic point that the
[00:13:34] Americas encompass like the continents
[00:13:37] of North America and South America.
[00:13:39] That's silly and no one sees it that
[00:13:41] way. And the reality is we are all from
[00:13:44] the Americas but we are not all
[00:13:46] Americans. When people say American they
[00:13:48] believe that you are talking about the
[00:13:49] United States as they should. And
[00:13:51] football is an American event. It is
[00:13:53] actually not the world's biggest event.
[00:13:55] It is America's biggest event, but ain't
[00:13:56] nobody in Japan watching the Super Bowl.
[00:13:59] This was not the World Cup. This
[00:14:01] performance at the World Cup would have
[00:14:02] made perfect sense. It would have
[00:14:04] because that's an international event
[00:14:05] with a bunch of different at the
[00:14:06] Olympics. This would have made perfect
[00:14:07] sense. Doing it at the halftime show and
[00:14:10] then basically saying that America is
[00:14:13] one of many.
[00:14:15] saying that what is happening on the
[00:14:17] stage is not a representation of the
[00:14:19] greatness of America in being able to
[00:14:22] capture many different cultures and draw
[00:14:24] from many different cultures to to merge
[00:14:26] in our assimilative American values. Not
[00:14:29] doing that, but instead doing these sort
[00:14:30] of country separatism and then saying we
[00:14:33] are all Americans
[00:14:35] while flying the flags of of countries
[00:14:37] that are not American. Like again, that
[00:14:39] last part was I think the tell and that
[00:14:41] was the part I think that people are are
[00:14:42] really reacting to on a sort of gut
[00:14:44] level. Now again, none of this is to say
[00:14:46] that for the third time, there aren't
[00:14:48] parts of the show that were kind of
[00:14:49] enjoyable. Again, I'll bring up the the
[00:14:51] sort of wedding part of it, which I
[00:14:52] thought was which I thought was kind of
[00:14:54] charming. Right here, here are some of
[00:14:56] the wedding stuff that was happening.
[00:15:05] This is a natural wedding that happened
[00:15:06] on the stage. Like, cool. Nice.
[00:15:10] And and yeah, exactly. A dude marrying a
[00:15:12] woman. And then they drew aside and
[00:15:13] suddenly the whitest lady I've ever
[00:15:15] seen, Lady Gaga, who's Italian,
[00:15:18] she started singing a salsa version of
[00:15:21] >> one of her songs,
[00:15:23] >> Die with a Smile.
[00:15:26] >> And uh and then you had all the salsa
[00:15:28] dancing. And again, I think the Super
[00:15:30] Bowl needs to take it down a couple of
[00:15:31] notches in terms of the uh of the
[00:15:33] fleshly pursuits, but that's not unique
[00:15:35] to this particular show. But the salsa
[00:15:36] dancing at the wedding, I thought was
[00:15:37] charming. and the little kid who's like
[00:15:39] lying asleep on and you have like the
[00:15:40] old the old grandfather or grandmother
[00:15:43] who's like moving the kid like that
[00:15:44] that's not nice that's not why I didn't
[00:15:46] react to any of that I thought fine the
[00:15:49] only thing that as an American I reacted
[00:15:51] to was the point that was being made at
[00:15:54] the end that was clearly political and
[00:15:55] when people say that don't notice the
[00:15:58] politics this is the part that drives me
[00:15:59] a little crazy you can't put it in every
[00:16:01] review and then when I notice that it's
[00:16:03] happening you tell me that I'm crazy
[00:16:05] that's the part I think that's getting
[00:16:06] people if you go to the Wall Street
[00:16:07] Journal review of the show, they say in
[00:16:10] a history-making halftime show perform
[00:16:12] performed almost entirely in Spanish. So
[00:16:14] as soon as you say a history-making
[00:16:16] halftime show, you're already saying
[00:16:18] there is something uniquely important
[00:16:19] about this halftime show. So don't
[00:16:21] pretend that this is, you know, Bon Joy
[00:16:25] playing a halftime show a few years ago.
[00:16:27] If you're saying it's history making,
[00:16:28] clearly you're saying that it's
[00:16:30] important in a cultural political way.
[00:16:33] In history making halftime show
[00:16:34] performed almost entirely in Spanish.
[00:16:35] The Puerto Rican star paid tribute to
[00:16:37] his heritage and the many countries from
[00:16:38] Brazil to Mexico whose people have come
[00:16:40] to shape the modern day US. And again,
[00:16:42] this is one of the weird conflicts about
[00:16:43] giving that list of countries and and
[00:16:45] including, for example, Canada. It's
[00:16:48] kind of strange because if you're just
[00:16:49] celebrating immigration, then
[00:16:50] theoretically a lot of immigrants from
[00:16:52] other places all over the world who come
[00:16:53] to the United States. But as the Wall
[00:16:56] Street Journal Review points out, just a
[00:16:58] week ago, Bad Bunny denounced ICE and
[00:17:00] Customs Enforcement while accepting a
[00:17:01] Grammy award. But on the halftime stage,
[00:17:03] he offered up a buoyant celebration of
[00:17:05] Latino culture. The elaborate stage
[00:17:07] design included a maze of sugarcane and
[00:17:09] a singlestory house similar to the one
[00:17:10] he used during his 31 date residency in
[00:17:12] San Juan, Puerto Rico last summer. As
[00:17:14] Bad Bunny strutdded through the
[00:17:15] greenery, he passed by old men playing
[00:17:17] dominoes, women chatting in a nail
[00:17:18] salon, and boxer sparring, a montage of
[00:17:20] scenes from life in Puerto Rico. And
[00:17:22] then there were a stream of celebrities
[00:17:23] who showed up to offer their support.
[00:17:25] Uh, I will admit that I did not
[00:17:26] recognize any of them except for Ricky
[00:17:28] Martin showed up. And I mean, I think
[00:17:30] we're all getting old cuz I'm I'm old
[00:17:32] enough to remember when Ricky Martin was
[00:17:33] pretending to be straight. So he he he
[00:17:36] showed up flanked by a bunch of bananas,
[00:17:37] which was a little strange. Anyway, he
[00:17:40] showed up.
[00:17:42] Apparently, Pedro Pascal and Jessica
[00:17:44] Alba were there for like a hot second.
[00:17:46] And then he finished that set by spiking
[00:17:48] a football that said together we are
[00:17:50] America.
[00:17:52] So that's the part like again if you're
[00:17:55] going to say it's important and then we
[00:17:56] notice that it's important and we ask so
[00:17:58] why is it important and then you tell us
[00:17:59] and then we say well we don't like that
[00:18:01] that's not us doing something wrong
[00:18:03] that's you gaslighting people but here
[00:18:05] are the things that are not wrong doing
[00:18:07] the vast majority of the show in Spanish
[00:18:09] don't care fine I'll be honest you when
[00:18:12] when Kendrick Lamar did his show I had
[00:18:13] no idea what he was saying the entire
[00:18:15] show and he was purportedly speaking
[00:18:16] English I had no idea a single word that
[00:18:18] he was saying so my bewilderment at The
[00:18:22] innate illiteracy of many of our artists
[00:18:25] continues. My my my inability to speak
[00:18:28] the language they are speaking is not
[00:18:29] unique to the halftime show. That I'm
[00:18:32] not upset about. I'm not upset about the
[00:18:34] featuring of Puerto Rican culture or
[00:18:35] Latino culture. Cool. Fine. Kind of
[00:18:38] enjoy.
[00:18:40] The thing that I am concerned about is
[00:18:43] the innate argument that is being made
[00:18:45] that the greatness of America somehow
[00:18:47] must be subsumed under the rubric of all
[00:18:50] countries are awesome and America is
[00:18:52] somehow equivalent in some way to other
[00:18:55] countries. It is not. America is
[00:18:56] exceptional. It's unique and bad money
[00:18:57] of all humans should know this because
[00:18:59] again in other countries he would still
[00:19:01] be working at the local bodega which he
[00:19:03] was I believe in Puerto Rico until like
[00:19:04] 2015. America is fabulous. America is
[00:19:08] spectacular. do that exact same
[00:19:10] performance while thanking America and
[00:19:12] everybody goes home happy. But again, I
[00:19:15] think he was meant not to do that and
[00:19:16] noticing that is not some sort of crime
[00:19:17] or sin. President Trump predictably did
[00:19:19] not like the show. He put out a
[00:19:21] statement on Truth Social in which he
[00:19:23] said the Super Bowl halftime show is
[00:19:25] absolutely terrible. One of the worst
[00:19:26] ever. Okay, again an overstatement. I
[00:19:29] mean, I I I've seen many many terrible
[00:19:31] Super Bowl halftime shows each year. In
[00:19:33] fact, I I generally hate the Super Bowl
[00:19:35] halftime show. It makes no sense. It is
[00:19:37] an affront to the greatness of America
[00:19:38] and doesn't represent our standards of
[00:19:39] success, creativity, or excellence.
[00:19:41] Nobody understands a word this guy is
[00:19:43] saying, and the dancing is disgusting,
[00:19:45] especially for young children that are
[00:19:46] watching from throughout the United
[00:19:47] States and all over the world. Again, I
[00:19:49] I would have more sympathy for that
[00:19:51] statement, except for that's been true
[00:19:52] for 20 years. The the It is gross. It
[00:19:56] But unfortunately, it now shows up in
[00:19:58] nearly every sporting event. the sort of
[00:19:59] bump and grind dancing that you see from
[00:20:00] cheerleaders at a normal basketball game
[00:20:03] is is so much more than a 14-year-old
[00:20:06] boy would have been able to take in
[00:20:07] 1983. This show is just a slap in the
[00:20:10] face to our country, says the president,
[00:20:11] which is setting new standards and
[00:20:12] records every single day, including the
[00:20:14] best stock market and 401ks in history.
[00:20:16] There's nothing inspirational about this
[00:20:17] mess of a halftime show. And watch,
[00:20:19] you'll get great reviews from the fake
[00:20:20] news media because they haven't got a
[00:20:21] clue of what is going on in the real
[00:20:22] world. And by the way, the NFL should
[00:20:24] immediately replace its ridiculous new
[00:20:25] kickoff rule. Make America great again,
[00:20:27] President Trump. Um, so I agree about
[00:20:29] the kickoff rule. Uh, and again I I see
[00:20:31] where he is coming from when he when he
[00:20:33] does not like the halftime show. I think
[00:20:34] that that there's a better way to
[00:20:36] articulate that.
[00:20:38] And this is again, we'll get to this a
[00:20:41] little bit later on in the show. This
[00:20:42] goes to the Republican party's inability
[00:20:44] to articulate good critiques in a
[00:20:45] thoughtful way that will tend to broaden
[00:20:47] the coalition rather than narrowing it.
[00:20:49] Well, while all of this was going on at
[00:20:51] the Super Bowl halftime show, all of the
[00:20:53] cultural chaos and all of the argument,
[00:20:55] Turning Point USA held its All-American
[00:20:57] Super Bowl halftime show. You could have
[00:20:59] seen that over at Daily Wire Plus. We
[00:21:00] were one of the places that was
[00:21:01] streaming it. The show featured Kid
[00:21:03] Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, and
[00:21:04] Gabby Barrett. And apparently, it is one
[00:21:06] of the most viewed shows in the history
[00:21:08] of YouTube. Like astonishing numbers,
[00:21:11] actually. The numbers soared to as many
[00:21:14] as 5 million people concurrently tuning
[00:21:16] into the live stream on YouTube.
[00:21:19] Now again, they're doing that on a
[00:21:21] fraction of the budget of the Super
[00:21:22] Bowl. Of course, they're doing it in a
[00:21:25] closed room that does not involve 70,000
[00:21:27] people. So that's a pretty astonishing a
[00:21:30] pretty astonishing showing there from
[00:21:32] TPUSA. And as I say, you could head on
[00:21:34] over to Daily Wire Plus as a subscriber
[00:21:36] and watch it.
[00:21:38] And I I think that speaks to the amount
[00:21:40] of antipathy that people have for the
[00:21:42] sort of politics that are being promoted
[00:21:43] by Jay-Z and team over at the Super
[00:21:45] Bowl. It's Jay-Z's team that handles the
[00:21:47] logistics for the halftime show.
[00:21:50] There are a lot of people who decided
[00:21:51] that they were going to tune on over to
[00:21:53] the TPUSA show. And that that's a I mean
[00:21:55] to go from nowhere to those kinds of
[00:21:57] numbers. Amazing work by TPUSA.
[00:22:02] Again, there's a reason that right-wing
[00:22:04] media have been on the upswing for quite
[00:22:06] a while. And that answer is left-wing
[00:22:08] media and the infusion of leftwing
[00:22:10] politics into what used to be at least
[00:22:13] apolitical entertainment. Meanwhile,
[00:22:15] over at the Super Bowl, one of the sort
[00:22:17] of more bizarre ads of the evening came
[00:22:19] when Mike Tyson suddenly appeared on
[00:22:21] your TV and told you to eat real food.
[00:22:23] That was the thing that happened in our
[00:22:25] lives. So, that was put up by the Make
[00:22:27] America Healthy Again part of the Trump
[00:22:30] administration. Now, Maha's doing a lot
[00:22:33] of amazing things. I'm not sure that
[00:22:34] that Mike Tyson, who most famously
[00:22:36] dieted on human ear, is necessarily your
[00:22:39] your best pick for a person to promote
[00:22:41] healthy eating. He talked about how his
[00:22:43] 25-year-old sister died after a heart
[00:22:45] attack. And then it showed him biting
[00:22:47] into an apple and it said, "Processed
[00:22:49] foods kill." Said, "Eat real food." Now,
[00:22:51] again, I'm totally for the eat real food
[00:22:53] thing. I think that that's great. I'm
[00:22:54] just not sure that Mike Tyson is is the
[00:22:56] best person that you could try it out
[00:22:57] theoretically for that. It's kind It's
[00:22:59] kind of a strange pick, shall we say.
[00:23:02] With that said, the Maha movement is
[00:23:04] doing some fascinating things. And we're
[00:23:05] going to be joined in just a minute by
[00:23:06] the first lady of Florida where they
[00:23:08] have their own Maha movement actually
[00:23:10] pushing forward what is eating healthy
[00:23:13] and checking into foods that may not be
[00:23:15] good for your kids. This segment is
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[00:23:23] automatic. As I mentioned, I had the
[00:23:25] opportunity to sit down with the first
[00:23:26] lady of Florida a little while ago to
[00:23:28] talk about what the state of Florida has
[00:23:30] been doing. They're testing a lot of the
[00:23:31] foods that you are probably eating or
[00:23:32] feeding to your kids. and the results
[00:23:34] are not always wonderful. Casey, thanks
[00:23:36] so much for joining. Really appreciate
[00:23:37] the time.
[00:23:38] >> Hey, hey, Ben, thanks for having me and
[00:23:40] thanks for taking an interest in all of
[00:23:41] this.
[00:23:42] >> So, let's talk about what you've been
[00:23:43] doing and some of the results that
[00:23:44] you've been getting. So, as I say, the
[00:23:46] the FDA, they they give the go-ahad to
[00:23:49] to, you know, particular products, but
[00:23:51] then I think everyone assumes that what
[00:23:52] you're eating is now safe because the
[00:23:53] FDA has said that it is safe, but
[00:23:55] there's no sort of follow-up testing and
[00:23:56] and that was the basis for the Healthy
[00:23:58] Florida First initiative.
[00:23:59] >> That's 100% right. And so what we have
[00:24:01] learned pretty much is that the FDA does
[00:24:03] a really good job as a reactionary
[00:24:05] force, right? If there is a problem,
[00:24:06] they will go and investigate. If there's
[00:24:08] a EC coli or salmonella outbreak, they
[00:24:11] will go and investigate. But what we
[00:24:12] want to do in the free state of Florida
[00:24:14] and through a coalition of other states
[00:24:16] is to do trust but verified testing.
[00:24:18] Right? A company can put a product out
[00:24:20] on the market. It has a list of
[00:24:21] ingredients and what we want to do is
[00:24:24] trust the integrity of that product to
[00:24:26] ensure that there are no contaminants
[00:24:28] like heavy metals, leads or pesticides
[00:24:30] or anything like that. And I think
[00:24:32] through the states in a federalist type
[00:24:35] way, we can help be a force multiplier
[00:24:37] to the federal maja movement. Give our
[00:24:39] data and our evidence to the FDA and
[00:24:42] say, "Hey, listen. here are some actors
[00:24:43] here that are problematic like
[00:24:45] glyphosate which we found in the bread
[00:24:47] which is weed killer commonly found in
[00:24:48] Roundup, right? Like this is totally
[00:24:50] unacceptable and so we want to help
[00:24:53] provide truth and accountability and
[00:24:55] just give consumers the information so
[00:24:57] they can make informed decisions
[00:25:00] >> and and some of these results are pretty
[00:25:01] astonishing. So so far you guys have
[00:25:03] done baby formula, you've done candy,
[00:25:05] and you've done bread. The candy results
[00:25:07] I think were the ones that actually got
[00:25:09] the most attention because again we all
[00:25:11] know that when we hand our kids candy it
[00:25:12] ain't great for them. But we don't think
[00:25:13] that there's arsenic in it. But it turns
[00:25:15] out that actually some of these candies
[00:25:16] have a non-insignificant portion of
[00:25:18] arsenic apparently.
[00:25:20] >> Yeah. Right. And the problem lies in
[00:25:22] aggregate. We're not talking about one
[00:25:24] piece of candy on one day. But no child
[00:25:27] is eating one piece of candy on one day
[00:25:29] and not eating candy for the rest of the
[00:25:31] year. Right? When we look at it through
[00:25:33] our risk analysis, it is how much candy
[00:25:35] are they eating and consumption over the
[00:25:37] course of a year and what does that mean
[00:25:39] as far as the intake of arsenic and
[00:25:41] being problematic. So what we saw for
[00:25:43] instance with nerds if you eat more than
[00:25:45] 86 nerds over the course of a year as a
[00:25:48] child you are exceeding the allowable
[00:25:50] safe threshold as I put in air quotes of
[00:25:52] arsenic for a child. If you eat more
[00:25:54] than six Jolly Ranchers you are
[00:25:56] exceeding the allowable level of arsenic
[00:25:58] uh for children. And so when you think
[00:26:01] about Halloween and Valentine's Day
[00:26:03] coming up and Christmas and even
[00:26:05] yesterday I made the example of when I
[00:26:07] was in a store with my daughter in CVS
[00:26:09] and you know she's you know pulling at
[00:26:11] my shirts sleeve because she wants a
[00:26:13] candy, you know, and I just want to try
[00:26:15] to pacify her so I don't cause a big
[00:26:18] scene. You know, you will just
[00:26:19] instinctively like, okay, sure, what is
[00:26:20] one piece of candy and how can it be
[00:26:22] problematic? Well, when you make those
[00:26:24] decisions in aggregate, you know, every
[00:26:25] week or every month or over the course
[00:26:27] of a year, you can see how this adds up.
[00:26:29] And it goes back to this fundamental
[00:26:31] principle that parents have a right to
[00:26:34] know what is in the food so they can
[00:26:36] make informed decisions to protect their
[00:26:38] health and certainly the health of their
[00:26:40] children.
[00:26:40] >> So, what has been the reaction from some
[00:26:42] of the candy companies to to all of
[00:26:43] this? Because you're presenting data. I
[00:26:45] assume that they're not particularly
[00:26:46] happy with people believing that if you
[00:26:48] eat too many nerds that that you're
[00:26:51] going to be consuming unsafe levels of
[00:26:53] arsenic. So, what's been their response
[00:26:55] so far?
[00:26:56] >> Well, you know, I'll let them speak for
[00:26:57] themselves. I don't think that they're
[00:26:59] arguing that there is indeed arsenic in
[00:27:01] the products. And so, when we look at it
[00:27:03] in our analysis, it is in aggregate. The
[00:27:05] silver lining though in a lot of this,
[00:27:07] Ben, is yes, while we found a lot of the
[00:27:09] name brand candies did have problematic
[00:27:11] levels of arsenic when you're eating it
[00:27:12] in aggregate over the course of a year,
[00:27:15] there are candies that didn't have any
[00:27:17] trace levels of arsenic in it. And also,
[00:27:20] we saw candies in the healthy side,
[00:27:22] right? It sounds a little oxymoronic,
[00:27:23] but the healthier varietal or the
[00:27:25] organic varietal that didn't have it,
[00:27:27] which tells you a couple of things. One,
[00:27:29] it can be done right. You can
[00:27:30] manufacture this stuff better so that
[00:27:32] you don't have arsenic. It is not
[00:27:33] inevitable. And also I see as more
[00:27:36] parents get informed about this, they
[00:27:38] will vote with their pocketbook, right?
[00:27:40] They're going to go and buy the things
[00:27:42] that they deem to be better for their
[00:27:43] children. And that by inertia is then
[00:27:46] going to hopefully kind of tip the
[00:27:48] scales a little bit of these companies
[00:27:49] to make better decisions as it pertains
[00:27:51] to their products. So we have a safer
[00:27:53] safer uh uh array of food out there. And
[00:27:56] the organic and the healthy ones by and
[00:27:59] large of the ones we tested, I think
[00:28:00] there were eight or nine. Two were a
[00:28:02] little bit problematic, but not by much.
[00:28:04] But the rest of them were good. So I can
[00:28:06] see, you know, as more of the consumer
[00:28:08] gets uh consumer folks get more educated
[00:28:11] about all of this that companies
[00:28:13] hopefully will want to start shifting
[00:28:15] down this road because they're going to
[00:28:16] see there's this huge market of informed
[00:28:18] consumers that just want better options.
[00:28:20] >> Now, we talked about candy. Obviously,
[00:28:22] we're talking about some of the other
[00:28:23] staple products that that people are
[00:28:25] using, things like baby formula. You
[00:28:26] don't have a choice very often when
[00:28:28] you're using baby formula. What are what
[00:28:29] are you finding when it comes to baby
[00:28:30] formula?
[00:28:31] >> Oh, yeah. So, this is one of the most
[00:28:32] ridiculous things that I think that we
[00:28:34] we've seen and that's why we started
[00:28:35] with baby formula because these are
[00:28:37] obviously this is all that kids are
[00:28:39] going to be consuming sometimes for the
[00:28:41] first year or two of their life. Like I
[00:28:43] tried to breastfeed as long as I could,
[00:28:44] but there came a point when I went back
[00:28:46] to work where I had to supplement. You
[00:28:48] know, I was going down store aisles and
[00:28:50] I was looking at baby formula making an
[00:28:52] assumption based on trust that
[00:28:54] everything there was safe, right? So
[00:28:57] when you find problematic levels of
[00:28:59] arsenic, cadmium, mercury, you know, all
[00:29:02] of this arsenic, like it's really
[00:29:05] unnerving. But here's the other
[00:29:06] unnerving part of it. This is not new,
[00:29:08] right? So if you go back to last year,
[00:29:10] Consumer Review came out with a review
[00:29:12] of a lot of these baby formulas and they
[00:29:14] found there were problematic levels of
[00:29:16] these contaminants, right? And you
[00:29:17] remember rightfully so, Secretary
[00:29:19] Kennedy, President uh Trump, they went
[00:29:22] out and did Operation Stor and they did
[00:29:25] they said we need to go in and test,
[00:29:27] right? Good. 100% the right avenue to
[00:29:29] take. Applaud their efforts. Here we are
[00:29:32] with the independent testing of the
[00:29:33] Florida Department of Health and there's
[00:29:35] no change, right? We're seeing still
[00:29:37] problematic levels and it's not okay. So
[00:29:41] now we're trying to say, "Hey guys, you
[00:29:43] need to do a better job." And so I think
[00:29:45] through the accountability in the
[00:29:46] sunlight, going on and talking to, you
[00:29:48] know, your viewers, going on and just
[00:29:51] informing the consumer base to make
[00:29:54] better informed decisions, I think that
[00:29:55] that can help push. I do think that
[00:29:57] there might be some statutory reforms
[00:29:59] that might be done. For instance, right
[00:30:01] now, uh, they are required by law to
[00:30:03] test for things like salmonella before
[00:30:05] the formula leaves the factory. Well, my
[00:30:08] thing is is could we not just have them
[00:30:11] also test for lead and mercury and
[00:30:13] arsenic? I mean, you know, we're talking
[00:30:15] about babies here, right? And the
[00:30:17] ramifications of having these heavy
[00:30:19] metals in food is is really problematic.
[00:30:22] It doesn't just simply leave the system.
[00:30:24] And our surgeon general would say your
[00:30:26] risk of getting cancer over the course
[00:30:28] of your lifetime by consuming these
[00:30:30] heavy metals and pesticides early in
[00:30:32] life, that risk goes up by 20%. That's
[00:30:35] not okay, right? As a former cancer
[00:30:37] survivor, okay, that's not cool. We
[00:30:40] don't want to do this. We want better
[00:30:41] options and we want consumers to be
[00:30:43] informed.
[00:30:44] >> Well, that's first lady of Florida Casey
[00:30:45] Dance is heading up the healthy Florida
[00:30:46] first initiative. First lady, thanks so
[00:30:48] much for the time. Really appreciate it.
[00:30:50] >> Hey, thanks Ben. Keep up the great work.
[00:30:52] >> And meanwhile, on the sort of it's okay
[00:30:54] to be proud of America storyline. Over
[00:30:57] at the Olympics, controversy broke out
[00:31:00] over the last couple of days when USA
[00:31:01] freestyle skiers Chris Lilis and Hunter
[00:31:03] Hess were asked about representing the
[00:31:05] United States and they talked about
[00:31:06] their mixed emotions. Don't do this,
[00:31:08] guys. Don't do this. You want to have
[00:31:10] critiques of of the presidency, go for
[00:31:12] it. But to say you have mixed emotions
[00:31:14] about representing the greatest country
[00:31:15] in the history of the world, no. Then
[00:31:17] don't represent it. Then seriously,
[00:31:19] don't represent it. Don't do it. You
[00:31:20] don't have to. Nobody Nobody thought
[00:31:23] that you were deeply necessary. But
[00:31:25] here's what it sounded like. I feel
[00:31:28] heartbroken about what's happened in the
[00:31:30] United States when it, you know, I'm
[00:31:32] pretty sure you're referencing ICE and
[00:31:33] some of the protests and things like
[00:31:34] that.
[00:31:36] Uh I think that as a country we need to
[00:31:39] focus on respecting everybody's rights
[00:31:41] and uh making sure that we're treating
[00:31:43] our citizens as well as anybody with
[00:31:45] love and respect. And uh I hope that
[00:31:48] when people look at athletes compete in
[00:31:50] the Olympics, they realize that that's
[00:31:52] the America that we're trying to
[00:31:53] represent. It brings up mixed emotions
[00:31:55] to represent the US right now. I think
[00:31:58] um it's a little hard. Um there's
[00:32:00] obviously a lot going on that I'm not
[00:32:02] the biggest fan of and I think a lot of
[00:32:04] people aren't. if it aligns with my
[00:32:06] moral values. Um, I feel like I'm
[00:32:08] representing it. Uh, just because I'm
[00:32:10] wearing the flag doesn't mean I
[00:32:12] represent everything that's going on in
[00:32:13] the US.
[00:32:16] Okay guys, no, no one asked for that. No
[00:32:18] one asked for that. You can say, listen,
[00:32:19] my politics have nothing to do with my
[00:32:20] pride in representing my country, which
[00:32:22] is the greatest country in the history
[00:32:23] of the world. That's all you have to
[00:32:24] say. President Trump naturally was
[00:32:26] concerned about this and ticked about
[00:32:27] it. He put out a statement on Truth
[00:32:29] Social. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess, a
[00:32:31] real loser, says he doesn't represent
[00:32:33] his country in the current Winter
[00:32:34] Olympics. If that's the case, he
[00:32:35] shouldn't have tried out for the team,
[00:32:36] and it's too bad he's on it. Very hard
[00:32:38] to root for someone like this, make
[00:32:40] America great again. And again, all I I
[00:32:43] think a huge percentage of Americans,
[00:32:45] all we're asking for truly all we're
[00:32:46] asking for is a baseline level of love
[00:32:48] of country. Like true love of country.
[00:32:50] That's all. That's all. Do all the
[00:32:53] things from the halftime show to skiing
[00:32:56] for the United States at the Olympics.
[00:32:58] just exhibit love of country.
[00:33:00] It's not that much to ask and honestly
[00:33:02] it is the reason why President Trump has
[00:33:04] been so successful because he does not
[00:33:07] have politically consistent positions
[00:33:09] the president. But what he does level
[00:33:10] does have is a gut level patriotism and
[00:33:13] I think the vast majority of Americans
[00:33:14] share that which is why the make America
[00:33:16] great again movement has been
[00:33:18] successful. Now going back to the things
[00:33:20] that will make the make America great
[00:33:21] again movement not successful. One of
[00:33:23] those things would be tweeting out
[00:33:24] idiotic and and terrible videos showing
[00:33:26] the Obamas as monkeys. That would be a
[00:33:28] terrible, stupid thing to do. Truly, it
[00:33:31] was taken down from Truth Social. Uh, as
[00:33:34] I predicted, I told you. I told you
[00:33:36] this, okay? And there are people in the
[00:33:38] media who are upset that I said this,
[00:33:39] but it was clearly true. President Trump
[00:33:41] tweeted out a video. The video, which I
[00:33:43] think was unverified in terms of its
[00:33:46] actual content, talked about voting
[00:33:48] machines in Georgia and the flaws in the
[00:33:49] voting machines. And the president, of
[00:33:51] course, is very caught up in all of the
[00:33:55] hubbub about voting machines in in
[00:33:57] Georgia because he still maintains he
[00:33:58] won the 2020 election. He said, at the
[00:34:00] very tail end of that video, there's a
[00:34:01] graphic that popped up of Barack and
[00:34:03] Michelle Obama as apes. It's really
[00:34:05] gross. It's racist and it's ugly and
[00:34:07] it's stupid. And at first, the
[00:34:09] administration tried to claim that he
[00:34:10] didn't put it up. They said that some
[00:34:12] sort of intern put it up, which of
[00:34:13] course is not true. The president is the
[00:34:15] only one who's posting on truth social.
[00:34:17] And the president says he didn't see the
[00:34:18] whole thing, which was clearly the case.
[00:34:20] I told you the president does not have
[00:34:22] the attention span to watch through a
[00:34:23] full one minute video that he is. If you
[00:34:25] think he's watching every video that
[00:34:27] he's putting up on Truth Social, you're
[00:34:28] out of your mind. Here's the president
[00:34:29] basically saying that.
[00:34:32] >> I looked at it. I saw it and I just
[00:34:34] looked at the first part. It was about
[00:34:35] voter fraud in someplace, Georgia. There
[00:34:38] was a lot of voter fraud, 2020 voter
[00:34:40] fraud. And I didn't see the whole thing.
[00:34:43] I guess toward the end of it, there was
[00:34:46] uh some kind of a picture that people
[00:34:49] don't like. I wouldn't like it either,
[00:34:50] but I didn't see it. I just I looked at
[00:34:52] the first part and it was really about
[00:34:54] voter fraud in uh and and the machines,
[00:34:58] how crooked it is, how disgusting it is.
[00:35:00] Uh then I gave it to the people to
[00:35:03] generally they look at the whole thing,
[00:35:05] but I guess somebody didn't and they
[00:35:06] posted and we took it down.
[00:35:10] >> Okay. So, yeah. Duh. That's what I said
[00:35:12] last week. Duh. And yeah, I think he's
[00:35:15] telling the truth because I don't think
[00:35:16] that the president again watches through
[00:35:17] any of the videos that he posts. If they
[00:35:19] have nice pictures of President Trump,
[00:35:21] he puts them up. This has been true for
[00:35:23] his videos for legitimately 10 years.
[00:35:24] The stuff that he puts on social media.
[00:35:26] And President Trump condemned the racist
[00:35:28] part of the video. Of course.
[00:35:30] >> Do you condemn the racist parts of the
[00:35:32] video?
[00:35:33] >> Of course I do.
[00:35:35] >> Yeah.
[00:35:38] >> Okay. So, I mean, yes. Okay. So, don't
[00:35:40] make that sort of mistake. That's a dumb
[00:35:41] mistake. is dumb. Now, what's amazing to
[00:35:43] me is truly that the left gets away with
[00:35:46] extraordinary open racism and everybody
[00:35:49] pretends it's not going on. So, for
[00:35:50] example, Representative Gene Woo, who is
[00:35:52] in the Texas House of Representatives,
[00:35:55] he basically spills out his program. He
[00:35:57] says that minorities need to side
[00:36:00] against the white man. This is an
[00:36:01] elected official in Texas.
[00:36:04] The day the Latino, African-American,
[00:36:08] Asian, and other communities realize
[00:36:11] that they are that they share the same
[00:36:14] oppressor is the day we start winning
[00:36:16] because we are the majority in this
[00:36:18] country now. We are we we have the
[00:36:21] ability to take over this country and to
[00:36:23] do what is needed for everyone.
[00:36:26] Okay, so that is um a problem. See, that
[00:36:29] seems to be much more problematic just
[00:36:30] in terms of thoroughgoing ideology than
[00:36:33] President Trump tweeting out a racist
[00:36:35] meme, not having watched the end of it,
[00:36:37] which is legitimately what happened. If
[00:36:39] your thoroughgoing ideology is all
[00:36:40] minorities against the white guy, that
[00:36:42] is a massive, massive issue in American
[00:36:44] life. It really is. And the left seems
[00:36:46] to be embracing this more and more. This
[00:36:47] is why, again, the biggest thing for the
[00:36:49] Trump administration is make your policy
[00:36:52] choices, which are designed to benefit
[00:36:54] Americans, all Americans. Make those
[00:36:57] clear. Be consistent in their
[00:36:59] application. Take down the rhetoric.
[00:37:02] Just enforce. Just do the baseline
[00:37:04] business of governing and let the left
[00:37:05] spin out. That would be the advice to
[00:37:07] the Trump administration for 2026.
[00:37:09] Thank God the Trump administration is
[00:37:11] now doing that with regard to sanctuary
[00:37:13] cities by putting Tom Hman, an adult, in
[00:37:15] charge of the policy. Here is Tom H.
[00:37:16] Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home.
[00:37:16] Home. Home. Home. Homeman over the
[00:37:17] weekend criticizing politicians double
[00:37:19] speak on sanctuary cities.
[00:37:22] But for the politicians that say, "We
[00:37:24] want you to arrest the criminals. We
[00:37:26] want you to target the criminals, but
[00:37:28] not let me in the jails, you can't
[00:37:30] square that. If if you really want to
[00:37:32] arrest the criminals and target the
[00:37:34] criminals, which I do, then let us do it
[00:37:36] in the safety and security of a of a
[00:37:38] jail or prison where it's safer for for
[00:37:41] the alien, safer for the community, and
[00:37:43] safer for the agents." So for those and
[00:37:45] there's many of them on both sides of
[00:37:47] the aisle says public safety threats are
[00:37:50] what you should be concentrating on. So
[00:37:52] everybody should come together and make
[00:37:55] that happen and and give us access to
[00:37:57] the jail.
[00:37:59] >> Again, this sort of lowkey
[00:38:02] advocacy for the basic intervention of
[00:38:06] law enforcement. That's the way to go.
[00:38:08] That's the thing that the Republicans
[00:38:09] should be doing right now, especially
[00:38:10] because Democrats continue to spin out
[00:38:13] on the immigration issue. truly spin out
[00:38:14] on it. Over the weekend, Zor Mandani in
[00:38:17] New York signed an executive order to
[00:38:18] restrict ICE in New York City. He
[00:38:20] restricted access to city property,
[00:38:22] barred federal government from accessing
[00:38:23] city data, and mandated training for
[00:38:25] city employees on where they do and
[00:38:26] don't need to cooperate with ICE. And
[00:38:29] then he went ahead and cited the Quran
[00:38:31] in support of anti-IC policy which uh
[00:38:34] dude mad dude all right
[00:38:38] the story of the hijra reminds us that
[00:38:41] prophet Muhammad
[00:38:43] was a stranger too who fled Mecca and
[00:38:46] was welcomed in Medina. Surah Nah 16:42
[00:38:50] tells us as for those who immigrated in
[00:38:53] the cause of Allah after being
[00:38:54] persecuted we will surely bless them
[00:38:56] with a good home in this world or as the
[00:38:59] prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
[00:39:01] wasallam said Islam began as something
[00:39:04] strange and will go back to being
[00:39:06] strange so glad tidings to the strangers
[00:39:11] okay he also then proceeded to invade
[00:39:13] the entire Middle East and slaughter
[00:39:15] people who did not adhere to his
[00:39:16] religion so there there was some of that
[00:39:17] happening as well in Quranic times.
[00:39:20] Yeah, things are getting weird out
[00:39:22] there. Meanwhile, over in Minnesota,
[00:39:24] anti-ICE riers were attacking cars with
[00:39:26] sex toys, which seems like a a very
[00:39:30] strange thing to do. I I'm not sure I
[00:39:33] understand the logic of attacking a car
[00:39:34] with a dildo, but I guess here we are.
[00:39:38] Also, I I find it somewhat unsurprising
[00:39:40] that the Minnesota ICE protesters have
[00:39:42] such a rich supply of dildos to hurl.
[00:39:51] So there they are throwing uh throwing
[00:39:54] sex toys at the at the ICE vehicles,
[00:39:57] which um
[00:39:59] that's a interesting.
[00:40:03] You did it. You saved America. Great
[00:40:06] job, guys.
[00:40:08] That's a lot of bored white people out
[00:40:09] there in Minneapolis in the cold
[00:40:11] throwing sex toys that presumably they
[00:40:13] got from their night side stands at the
[00:40:15] uh at the ice vehicles. Great great job
[00:40:18] everyone. And of course you have Don
[00:40:20] Lemon who's still out there that no one
[00:40:21] is happier than Don Lemon about what
[00:40:22] happened to Don Lemon comparing himself
[00:40:24] to civil rights leaders of the past.
[00:40:26] Yes, you two are a civil rights leader
[00:40:27] if you allegedly coordinate with people
[00:40:30] to go inside a church and harass the
[00:40:31] parishioners.
[00:40:34] In my time when I was there, I thought
[00:40:36] about all the people who'd come before
[00:40:37] me. I thought about all of the people
[00:40:40] who fought for civil rights, who fought
[00:40:41] for gay rights, all the people who were
[00:40:43] at Stonewall, Marcia P. Clark. I'm like,
[00:40:45] "Yes, those are the people. Those are
[00:40:46] the real heroes." And so what's
[00:40:49] happening to me, I have at least in this
[00:40:51] time that I'm living now, more agency,
[00:40:55] more resources, more rights, and I would
[00:40:58] hope than the people who were fighting
[00:41:00] for our freedom and our civil rights.
[00:41:07] >> So much heroism. Okay, so the Democrats
[00:41:09] are doing that. So all Republicans have
[00:41:10] to do is implement basically good policy
[00:41:13] in a low-key way, and they will benefit
[00:41:15] from doing this. this is a thing they
[00:41:17] will benefit from. Now that of course
[00:41:18] assumes that the economy continues to
[00:41:21] sail forward and that is an open
[00:41:24] question right now. Lot of lot of
[00:41:27] crossurrens in the economy right now.
[00:41:29] Obviously the Dow Jones Industrial
[00:41:31] Average continues to sore. It it closed
[00:41:33] above 50,000 for the first time on
[00:41:36] Friday.
[00:41:38] It's been doing great. Okay, with all
[00:41:40] that said, when it comes to, for
[00:41:43] example, employment, there is a deep
[00:41:45] freeze that has enveloped the US labor
[00:41:46] market. According to the Wall Street
[00:41:48] Journal, the pace of hiring in America
[00:41:49] has dropped precipitously. There isn't a
[00:41:51] single reason why. Instead, there are a
[00:41:52] lot of them. Uncertainty over tariff
[00:41:54] policy, high short-term interest rates.
[00:41:57] Workers aren't leaving the jobs that
[00:41:59] they have right now, and of course, a
[00:42:02] lot of concerns that AI is going to wipe
[00:42:05] out large swaths of the job market by
[00:42:07] replacing a lot of labor. All those are
[00:42:09] very very serious concerns and those
[00:42:11] concerns are leading people to feel
[00:42:12] worried about the economy even if the
[00:42:14] stock market is doing great
[00:42:16] because there has been a stall in tech
[00:42:18] employment starting November 2022.
[00:42:22] There's some evidence that AI is is
[00:42:24] filtering down into the markets. Amazon
[00:42:26] obviously cutting out jobs. AI is wiping
[00:42:28] out certain value in the market while
[00:42:30] propping up value in the AI end of the
[00:42:32] market. So software companies took it
[00:42:33] right on the chin last week because
[00:42:35] there are so many things that AI is now
[00:42:37] doing that used to be the preserve of
[00:42:38] software companies.
[00:42:41] So the president is trying to run the
[00:42:43] economy hot apparently running up to the
[00:42:45] election. So that is why presumably he
[00:42:46] wants the interest rates lowered. He is
[00:42:48] hoping that there will be more liquidity
[00:42:50] available and that will mean more
[00:42:51] hiring. The question is whether the
[00:42:53] uncertainty over AI is is preventing
[00:42:55] people from hiring up because they
[00:42:57] believe that AI is going to develop such
[00:42:59] that they don't need to hire a lot of
[00:43:00] other people. Again, economic
[00:43:01] uncertainty always harms presidencies
[00:43:04] and we are in an off-ear election that's
[00:43:06] always bad for the party in power with
[00:43:07] very few exceptions. All of that is
[00:43:10] true, but the biggest thing the Trump
[00:43:11] administration can do and speak
[00:43:13] rationally to the American people, show
[00:43:15] that you are doing things on the topics
[00:43:17] that they care about and be calm and
[00:43:18] collected in your approach to the
[00:43:20] American public considering that the
[00:43:21] left is spinning out. Joining me on the
[00:43:23] line is Winston Marshall, host of the
[00:43:24] Winston Marshall Show, co-founder of the
[00:43:26] Dissident Dialogues Festival of Ideas
[00:43:28] and a former member of the Grammy
[00:43:29] Award-winning folk rock band Mumford and
[00:43:31] Sons. Winston, of course, covers
[00:43:33] everything political in the UK as well.
[00:43:35] Winston, thanks so much for taking time.
[00:43:36] Really appreciate it.
[00:43:38] >> All right, Ben, thanks for having me.
[00:43:41] >> So, one of the things that's really
[00:43:42] fascinating that's been going on
[00:43:44] obviously is what's surrounding Kirst
[00:43:46] and team in the UK because of Jeffrey
[00:43:48] Epstein. So while the focus in the
[00:43:50] United States has been on largecale
[00:43:52] unsupportable
[00:43:54] conspiracy theorizing about what Epstein
[00:43:56] did didn't do, the suggestion that
[00:43:57] Jeffrey Epstein is the head of an
[00:43:59] international intelligence ring on
[00:44:01] behalf of a foreign power trafficking in
[00:44:03] little girls or whatever there actually
[00:44:05] is there there is supportable scandal,
[00:44:06] right? That that stuff that I said
[00:44:07] before that's all conspiracy conjecture
[00:44:09] at this point based on the reams of
[00:44:11] evidence that we have seen. It is beyond
[00:44:12] the evidence. But the one thing that we
[00:44:14] do know is that there were members of
[00:44:16] the Kierst Starmer administration in the
[00:44:19] UK who have been forced to resign
[00:44:21] because of their connection with Jeffrey
[00:44:23] Epstein. Not necessarily because of
[00:44:25] trafficking in women or girls, but
[00:44:28] because of actual business corruption.
[00:44:31] Maybe you can fill us in.
[00:44:33] >> Uh well, I'm gonna try and fill you in.
[00:44:35] I have just spent the last four or five
[00:44:38] days in full white boat whiteboard meme
[00:44:42] uh mode trying to piece this all
[00:44:44] together. It is quite literally a
[00:44:45] bottomless pit of information and it
[00:44:48] seems that Jeffrey Epstein might indeed
[00:44:50] be taking down the Star government from
[00:44:53] beyond the grave. Some people might
[00:44:55] think that he is saving Britain actually
[00:44:57] from beyond the grave although there
[00:44:58] could be much worse things around the
[00:45:00] corner. Now I joke about it but it is an
[00:45:02] absolutely disgusting story. It's been
[00:45:05] brought me no pleasure whatsoever going
[00:45:07] into this but it is not just a case that
[00:45:11] Starmmer we this might be the last week
[00:45:13] of Star's uh as prime minister but uh it
[00:45:17] is also a a corruption scandal as you
[00:45:21] say it's got political sleas in it but
[00:45:23] it's also the epitome maybe I should say
[00:45:26] the nadilla of crony capitalism all in
[00:45:29] one story so I'm going to attempt to
[00:45:32] break this down for you it's Not easy.
[00:45:36] There have been six new revelations
[00:45:39] about Mandlesson's relationship with
[00:45:42] Epstein from the January 30th trench.
[00:45:45] But I need to explain to you
[00:45:47] >> about Peter Mand. Peter Mandlesson. Yes.
[00:45:49] >> Yes.
[00:45:49] >> Yes.
[00:45:50] >> I need to explain to you who Peter
[00:45:51] Mandlesson is. Peter Mandlesson is a
[00:45:55] Labor Party grande. His grandfather was
[00:45:59] part setting up the Labour Party at the
[00:46:02] beginning of the last century. His
[00:46:03] grandfather Herbert Morrison was also in
[00:46:06] Churchill's war cabinet and famously was
[00:46:09] had many clashes with Churchill. They
[00:46:11] were sort of ideologically opposed from
[00:46:13] each other. But not only that,
[00:46:15] Mandlesson is regarded was regarded at
[00:46:19] the time as the dark prince behind Tony
[00:46:23] Blair and Gordon Brown and the new labor
[00:46:25] movement from 97 to 2010. It the dark
[00:46:29] prince is a name, by the way, that he
[00:46:30] embraced very happily. He is known as
[00:46:34] being sort of the archetypal Machaveli
[00:46:37] and in fact I actually met him once when
[00:46:39] he was ambassador and that was my
[00:46:41] experience. He he seemed to me to be a
[00:46:42] total Makavel.
[00:46:45] So having had his political career where
[00:46:49] he started as uh doing uh campaigning,
[00:46:52] then became an MP for a while, got
[00:46:55] himself up to being deputy prime
[00:46:58] minister uh uh under Gordon Brown and
[00:47:02] had various ministerial roles up until
[00:47:05] 2010 when the the Tories uh took power
[00:47:08] in the coalition with the Liberal
[00:47:09] Democrats at which point he pivots to
[00:47:12] the private sector which we'll come back
[00:47:14] to the point though is that in that
[00:47:17] period even then his career was filled
[00:47:21] with scandal which I'd love to go into
[00:47:24] but there's too many other present
[00:47:25] scandals for us to address. So he became
[00:47:29] he was appointed in February 2025 as
[00:47:32] ambassador to DC and this was by K star.
[00:47:38] Now in February 2025,
[00:47:41] it was in the public domain already as
[00:47:44] revealed by the FT in June 2023 that
[00:47:48] star uh that Mandlesson had maintained a
[00:47:51] postconviction relationship with Epstein
[00:47:53] i.e. after Epstein had been convicted in
[00:47:56] 2008, Mandles continued his friendship
[00:47:59] with him. In that 2023 uh expose by the
[00:48:03] FT, we learned that he even stayed at uh
[00:48:07] Epstein's Paris apartment during
[00:48:11] Epstein's prison time and that they had
[00:48:14] communications after which Epstein would
[00:48:17] call him PY. They were they were they
[00:48:19] were friends. Then he becomes uh
[00:48:25] ambassador in February 2025. September
[00:48:28] 2025, we have the first tranch of
[00:48:31] Epstein files, famously the birthday
[00:48:34] message, the big birthday uh I don't
[00:48:38] know if you've gone through that book,
[00:48:39] it's like a 250 page uh uh document of
[00:48:43] sort of memories of Epstein and messages
[00:48:45] from friends. And in that birthday book,
[00:48:49] he says Mandlesson calls Epstein his
[00:48:53] best pal and uh that he loves him. And
[00:48:57] what's important to remember though is
[00:48:58] that birthday book was from 2003. So
[00:49:01] preconviction. So you might say, oh
[00:49:04] well, you know that it's not necessarily
[00:49:06] the case that he knew about the the sort
[00:49:08] of dastardly disgusting behavior.
[00:49:11] But it was also the case then that there
[00:49:13] was evidence of a post208 relationship
[00:49:18] and it was also evidence that he flew on
[00:49:20] Epstein's jet and
[00:49:23] um it shows an ongoing communication. So
[00:49:26] in other words,
[00:49:28] we knew that they were friends post
[00:49:31] conviction. Why this is important is
[00:49:33] because although there is new
[00:49:34] information that's been released over
[00:49:36] the last week in this new trench from
[00:49:38] January 30th and it's pretty disgusting
[00:49:41] information when it comes to the sleas
[00:49:45] we've actually known the core salient
[00:49:48] issues all along and why this is also
[00:49:51] important that your American viewers
[00:49:52] might not have picked up on is in the
[00:49:53] British media and across the British
[00:49:55] nation it is the sleas that everyone is
[00:49:57] focusing on. The bottom line in all of
[00:49:59] this is that Peter Mandlesson was a
[00:50:01] close deputy of the prime minister Kier
[00:50:04] Starmer. He was appointed even though it
[00:50:05] was clearly public that he had
[00:50:07] relationship with Epstein. The things
[00:50:08] that we're finding out right now are
[00:50:10] that there there were actual lawbreaking
[00:50:13] activities happening between Mandlesen
[00:50:15] and Epste going back years. Uh as you
[00:50:17] mentioned a criminal investigation into
[00:50:18] Mandlesen for having leaked insider
[00:50:20] government information to Epste that he
[00:50:22] then used to trade off of and and this
[00:50:24] could bring down Kier Starmer's
[00:50:25] government. uh just today his chief of
[00:50:27] staff had to resign over all of this.
[00:50:30] That'd be Morgan Mweeny, his chief of
[00:50:32] staff who had to resign over his role in
[00:50:34] the appointment of Mandlesen. If
[00:50:36] Starmmer were to go down right now,
[00:50:38] according to virtually every opinion
[00:50:39] poll, the leader in the clubhouse right
[00:50:41] now is the Reform Party. If there were
[00:50:42] to be a new election that were to hold,
[00:50:44] if if there were if he weren't to be
[00:50:45] replaced simply as prime minister, if
[00:50:47] there were to be an actual collapse in
[00:50:49] his coalition and suddenly there were a
[00:50:50] new election to be held, the Reform
[00:50:52] Party is the chief beneficiary. The
[00:50:53] Labor Party is in quite low odor. It has
[00:50:56] now fallen in many polls below the
[00:50:57] Conservative Party, which was basically
[00:50:58] dead as a doornail just a couple of
[00:51:00] years ago. And some of this has to be
[00:51:02] due not just to Kirst's poor governor
[00:51:04] governance, but also to the Epstein
[00:51:06] scandal.
[00:51:08] >> Yes. Except I think it's very unlikely
[00:51:10] that Labour Party will have an election.
[00:51:13] They know how unpopular they are. That
[00:51:15] means that all of them will lose their
[00:51:17] job. They also hate reform because they
[00:51:20] think reform are far right. So they
[00:51:22] won't have an election because they kn
[00:51:24] they know reform will sweep through and
[00:51:26] have a a stalking majority in parliament
[00:51:29] making Nigel Farage prime minister. That
[00:51:31] would be their um worst nightmare. So I
[00:51:33] don't think we're going to see an
[00:51:35] election. What I think is more likely is
[00:51:38] that Starmmer will either resign or say
[00:51:40] that he'll resign after the May council
[00:51:43] elections. There's two other things
[00:51:44] going on with regards to um party
[00:51:46] politics. There's a bi-election going on
[00:51:49] in South Manchester in Gaunton and
[00:51:51] Denton where I was just on the weekend
[00:51:54] uh visiting uh voters but uh there's
[00:51:56] also these council elections which
[00:51:59] probably Labour will get smashed um and
[00:52:02] at that point it will be seen that he is
[00:52:06] unenable
[00:52:07] to stay as prime minister. So then
[00:52:10] there'll be he'll stay probably until
[00:52:12] there's uh interparty elections and they
[00:52:15] decide between themselves who the new uh
[00:52:18] prime minister and leader would be. I
[00:52:21] can run through some of the the likely
[00:52:23] um candidates I if you want there but
[00:52:26] suffice to say that all of them are are
[00:52:28] further left than here starama. He is
[00:52:31] actually the best of a bad bunch and
[00:52:33] they are also it would seem far less
[00:52:36] competent than Stara. So that's why I
[00:52:40] say epste and I joked at the beginning
[00:52:41] epste might have made things much worse
[00:52:43] for Britain and that might be on the
[00:52:45] horizon.
[00:52:48] >> Well that is Winston Marshall. Go check
[00:52:49] out all of his ideas over at the Winston
[00:52:52] Marshall show and you can check out all
[00:52:54] of his social media as well. Winston,
[00:52:55] thanks so much for the time and the
[00:52:56] insight.
[00:52:58] >> Thanks Ben.
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[00:53:18] >> Okay. But above this, I wish you love.
[00:53:33] >> No, not even close. Two, three.
[00:53:36] Whatever. You know what? Two, three,
[00:53:39] four.
[00:53:46] >> I cannot believe we're back here again,
[00:53:47] Ben. If the Ben Shapiro shows mom and
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