Student Says Marriage Is BROKEN... Charlie Kirk Pushes Back

[00:00:00] I fundamentally disagree with you in [00:00:02] regards to having a family and uh [00:00:04] getting married in this day and age. And [00:00:07] I'll tell you why. 70% of the divorce [00:00:09] rates happen because of women. Okay, [00:00:12] that's a fact. Before we get angry, [00:00:14] let's talk about the facts. And you can [00:00:16] Google this too. And on top of that, And [00:00:20] on top of that, 85 Hey, hey, hey. 85% [00:00:25] of the men or I should say people in [00:00:27] jail could grow up in fatherless homes. [00:00:30] So there's a direct correlation between [00:00:32] those two things. So my my thinking is [00:00:36] that we don't need to necessarily have [00:00:38] more families unless we have a complete [00:00:40] change to the system. Now what do you [00:00:43] think about that? We need to change the [00:00:45] system in order for us to have a nice [00:00:47] conversation about, you know, having a [00:00:49] family because the state incentivizes [00:00:52] single motherhood in this country. And [00:00:54] you're looking at me with that face, but [00:00:56] tell me why. [00:00:58] >> I'm I'm trying to understand what you're [00:00:59] saying. What is your contention that we [00:01:01] shouldn't get married and have kids? [00:01:03] >> We shouldn't currently because of this [00:01:05] particular issue right now. [00:01:07] >> What What issue is build that out [00:01:09] further for me, sir. [00:01:09] >> Okay. Okay. Let me explain. outside of [00:01:11] the fact that you know the anti-woman [00:01:13] thing that you said. [00:01:14] >> Well, it's not necessarily anti-woman. [00:01:15] It's a fact. You can Google this, too. [00:01:17] And look at the divorce rates in this [00:01:18] country. I'm just saying that if we're [00:01:21] going to have more families, we need [00:01:23] some protections in place for men [00:01:25] because right now the legal system [00:01:27] actively destroys the man in court. All [00:01:29] right. Is that false or is that true? [00:01:31] >> I mean, yeah, of course it's true that [00:01:33] the state encourages divorce, but yeah. [00:01:35] How about you find a woman that you want [00:01:38] to spend the rest of your life? [00:01:39] >> 10 years. [00:01:40] >> I was married for 10 years [00:01:42] >> and then you should take responsibility [00:01:43] for your own actions. Like why is that [00:01:45] my problem? [00:01:45] >> Well, no. The thing is is that you're [00:01:46] saying you should you're asking me if I [00:01:48] should find a woman. [00:01:49] >> But hold on. You're going up in front of [00:01:50] people timeout to say marriage is bad [00:01:52] cuz I had a bad experience. [00:01:53] >> No, no, no. But it's true statistically. [00:01:55] We can look at the data. Is it wrong to [00:01:58] say that hey 70% of divorces are [00:02:00] initiated by women when the data says [00:02:01] that? [00:02:01] >> Can I ask you a provocative care about [00:02:03] feelings, right? Can I ask you a [00:02:04] provocative question? Did you Did you [00:02:06] Did you do anything that led to your [00:02:07] divorce? [00:02:08] >> Absolutely. [00:02:09] >> Okay. So, it wasn't all the woman's [00:02:10] fault. [00:02:10] >> No, no, no, but I'm saying no. But [00:02:13] here's the thing. 70% of the divorces [00:02:15] are initiated by them. And yes, this is [00:02:17] an anecdotal situation. [00:02:19] >> See, I I reject the premise. I reject [00:02:20] the premise. I think that we as men must [00:02:22] lead. Women might initiate it, but we as [00:02:24] men don't take the directive to have [00:02:26] peace in the home. I reject the premise. [00:02:29] Hold on. Hold on. Time out. Let me [00:02:31] finish. I reject the premise. Yes, women [00:02:33] might initiate the divorce proceeding, [00:02:35] but we are the one as men that ignore [00:02:38] the subterranean threat and the brush [00:02:40] fire that is growing. We're the ones [00:02:42] that should take the family back to [00:02:43] church that go seek counseling if [00:02:45] necessary. [00:02:46] It's not good enough just to say like, [00:02:49] hey, you know, oh, it's women that [00:02:50] initiate it. It's men who don't act, I [00:02:53] think, confidently and strong enough in [00:02:55] most cases to actually make sure that [00:02:57] marriage is a safe haven to have [00:02:59] children in a holy protected place. And [00:03:01] I think that makes sense. And let me say [00:03:02] this, okay, let's find some common [00:03:04] ground. So we know that the system is [00:03:06] flawed, right? So here's the thing [00:03:07] that's flawed about it. When the federal [00:03:10] government incentivizes the state at the [00:03:12] state level for child support [00:03:13] enforcement programs and we have a [00:03:16] system where the state makes a bunch of [00:03:18] money off of this, it's pretty parasitic [00:03:21] because there's no such thing as a 50-50 [00:03:23] custody in Wyoming, even if you get [00:03:26] along with the parent. [00:03:28] So when the state is actively involved [00:03:30] with family matters and women are [00:03:33] getting paid off from this and this is [00:03:35] not false, we have a toxic system that [00:03:38] probably needs to be revised. Do you not [00:03:40] disagree with that? Because [00:03:42] >> I I think we should revise I do think I [00:03:44] do believe in more men's rights and [00:03:46] custody. I think that's fine. But like [00:03:48] let's take a step back though and I [00:03:49] think it's very important is that that [00:03:52] men are objectively better when they are [00:03:55] married and they don't stay as grown [00:03:57] infant boys watching and playing video [00:03:59] games all day long. [00:04:00] >> And I don't disagree with that. [00:04:02] >> Good. So we agree. I agree. [00:04:04] >> Here's my argument. Despite [00:04:06] >> here's my despite the problems of the [00:04:08] legal system of which your argument has [00:04:10] some merit. [00:04:11] >> Yeah. [00:04:11] >> We still should get married because it [00:04:13] is the right thing to do. despite the [00:04:16] technical problems, despite the [00:04:17] difficulties, in fact, it's up us for up [00:04:20] men, us men to find a woman that we love [00:04:23] and to protect that marriage and hope [00:04:25] that it never goes in the direction of [00:04:26] divorce [00:04:27] >> and and [00:04:28] >> that's 30% though. That's 30% chance. [00:04:31] >> I don't again so well no about half of [00:04:34] marriages continue. It's not 30%. [00:04:36] >> No, because if 70 No, hold on a second. [00:04:38] Because look at this. Why do we have [00:04:40] such a society that is so hyperfocused [00:04:42] on we need to have a bunch of children [00:04:44] and get married and but we have this [00:04:46] system in place and I'm talking about [00:04:48] the federal government that incentivizes [00:04:50] single parenthood and we can look at [00:04:52] most of these inmates in jail come from [00:04:54] fatherless homes. Maybe we should get [00:04:57] rid of the state involved in personal [00:04:59] family matters. [00:05:00] >> So you're conflating you know why the [00:05:01] fatherless homes you're talking about [00:05:03] Yes. are people that never got married [00:05:04] in the first place most of the time. [00:05:05] They're men that [00:05:06] >> Yes. That's true. there that they're men [00:05:07] that impregnate women and flee their the [00:05:09] women that they were with. But [00:05:10] understand this that every generation [00:05:12] has had troubles. [00:05:14] >> Yeah. [00:05:14] >> Our duty as men is to overcome [00:05:16] obstacles, not whine about them and not [00:05:19] complain about them. So yes, there is a [00:05:21] problem here, but I would reject the [00:05:23] premise. Every man here should not every [00:05:26] young man should say, "I'm not going to [00:05:27] be a boy and I'm going to go do the hard [00:05:29] thing and get married and have [00:05:31] children." And I would just push back [00:05:32] against some of your narrative where [00:05:33] you're telling like, "Well, men, it [00:05:35] might not be good. It might not be [00:05:36] this." Yes, life has lots of things that [00:05:38] could throw at you, but marriage is a [00:05:40] holy, holy [snorts] institution that we [00:05:43] should aim for. And the fact that [00:05:44] marriage is slipping in the West is one [00:05:46] of the great damaging indicators as to [00:05:49] why our country is falling apart. [00:05:50] >> Should we revise it? Should we revise? [00:05:51] >> Yes, I I think we should revise some of [00:05:53] the laws. I I agree. But the answer is [00:05:55] not to not get married or run away from [00:05:57] that institution. It's tough. Okay, [00:05:59] still go get married and have kids. [00:06:01] Thank you very much. I appreciate it.