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[00:00:00] this episode has brought to you courtesy [00:00:02] of Neil Oliver if you're enjoying this [00:00:04] content be sure to check out his YouTube [00:00:05] channel using the link [00:00:07] below greetings wonderful people get [00:00:11] ready to be shaken up uh woken up [00:00:13] inspired informed by today's guest a [00:00:16] woman who's never shy of airing a strong [00:00:18] opinion or bringing forth a sharp [00:00:21] Insight but before we get started uh can [00:00:23] I give you a quick reminder to check out [00:00:25] my patreon.com site by signing up there [00:00:28] you show real practical financial [00:00:30] support for everything that we do on [00:00:32] this channel costs about the price of a [00:00:34] cup of coffee every month but in return [00:00:36] you get early access to all my new [00:00:38] content and you get exclusive access to [00:00:40] a question and answer session every week [00:00:42] it's great come along join us make it [00:00:45] better by being there okay now it's time [00:00:47] for this week's [00:00:50] [Music] [00:00:53] interview hi everyone fellow Time [00:00:55] Travelers uh it's that time in the week [00:00:57] when we seek to broaden our Horizon [00:01:00] widen our perspectives by hearing from [00:01:03] another voice uh another opinionated [00:01:06] voice ideally uh this week's guest I [00:01:08] think is certainly opinionated Candice [00:01:10] Owens uh usually described whenever I I [00:01:13] look online as a political commentator [00:01:16] sometimes called a political pundit um [00:01:19] like me routinely described as far right [00:01:23] uh far right being one of a s of [00:01:25] descriptions that's been rendered [00:01:27] meaningless really in Modern Times by [00:01:29] misuse and overuse I see Candice as [00:01:33] fascinating uh forthright uh intensely [00:01:37] smart wonderfully articulate Fearless [00:01:40] determined uh and I've been looking [00:01:41] forward to this conversation for oh days [00:01:45] now uh so let's get into it good morning [00:01:48] to you Candace [00:01:49] Owens thank you so much for having me [00:01:51] I'm excited that we were able to make [00:01:52] this work indeed it dided I want to get [00:01:55] straight into it I want to make the most [00:01:56] of our time together Candace I I really [00:01:58] want to start been watch I watched you [00:02:00] online uh and I've been watching the the [00:02:02] latest um conversations that you've been [00:02:05] having uh you with with a variety of [00:02:07] figures and it it seems to me four years [00:02:12] since the covid debacle kicked off and [00:02:15] it was the co debacle that kind of woke [00:02:17] me up to so many other issues it it [00:02:20] seems Against All my expectations that [00:02:22] even now the world is getting madder and [00:02:26] madder faster and faster [00:02:30] wondered if you feel as if whatever ride [00:02:32] we're on is is spinning ever more out of [00:02:36] control I agree I actually though am [00:02:40] optimistic about it because I think that [00:02:43] the reason it feels more feverish is [00:02:47] because for a very long time there was [00:02:50] sort of this Authority that everybody [00:02:52] trusted and therefore it seemed ordered [00:02:55] because nobody was awake like you said [00:02:58] after Co I sort of woke up to this and [00:03:01] started to realize maybe some things [00:03:03] that I thought were were not and because [00:03:06] of that because the establishment so to [00:03:08] speak feels threatened because they they [00:03:10] should feel threatened people are no [00:03:11] longer believing them they are kind of [00:03:15] feverishly writing they're in a total [00:03:16] fever pitch right now trying to figure [00:03:19] out how to kind of get the Sheep back in [00:03:23] order is it is the the co well I always [00:03:28] call it the co debacle was that for you [00:03:30] also because that I I admit I've I've [00:03:33] loudly admitted over recent times when [00:03:35] challenged that I I was naive I was not [00:03:38] paying attention for the for the first [00:03:40] five Decades of my life and it was only [00:03:43] it was only what started to happen [00:03:45] around Co that for whatever reason made [00:03:48] that kind of fight [00:03:51] flight you know reptilian bit of my [00:03:53] brain flicker for the first time so was [00:03:56] that was it the same for [00:03:58] you so first what I'll say is that what [00:04:00] you just said is something that the [00:04:02] majority of the mainstream media is [00:04:03] incapable of doing and that's what I [00:04:05] mean about they're so authoritarian they [00:04:06] refuse to admit when they've just got it [00:04:07] wrong and the people that are willing to [00:04:10] with new information update change their [00:04:13] mind are people that should have [00:04:14] platforms and you're starting to see [00:04:15] that they do have platforms because [00:04:17] they've built real trust with the people [00:04:19] the trust to just say wow I was [00:04:20] completely wrong about this but no [00:04:22] regarding covid I was um already on a [00:04:26] list uh because I was an antivaxer I am [00:04:29] an anti H vaxer I love that there's [00:04:30] always a name for something I was [00:04:33] blessed when I was 20 that I got vaccine [00:04:35] injured by the gardisil shot and I it [00:04:38] took me out of a revery with medical [00:04:41] like big Pharma because I basically had [00:04:44] a mini seizure while I was at the doctor [00:04:47] and then got up I was about 19 or 20 and [00:04:49] went I don't know anything about this [00:04:51] shot I blindly trusted the doctor and [00:04:53] then when I research just that [00:04:54] particular shot I realized it was all [00:04:56] smoke and mirror that everything that I [00:04:58] was told to be it was like a fear-based [00:05:00] get it or you're going to get cervical [00:05:02] or orari cancer from HPV which I mean [00:05:06] total total nonsense and so when my [00:05:09] husband and I got married and had kids I [00:05:10] had already made up my mind to do a [00:05:13] series on vaccines for parents so that [00:05:14] they could just hear a different opinion [00:05:17] and so I had already was producing that [00:05:19] series and then luckily for me covid hit [00:05:22] and suddenly people were going what's [00:05:24] going on with big Pharma and I of course [00:05:26] was saying don't don't get the shot from [00:05:28] the very beginning and I think that you [00:05:31] know people were finally ready to hear [00:05:34] it's hard to imagine in your mind that [00:05:37] the establishment could be that evil and [00:05:39] I think that's what's so difficult we're [00:05:40] we're naturally trusting because the [00:05:42] other option is to believe that the [00:05:45] entire mainstream media apparatus in [00:05:48] collusion with governments worldwide in [00:05:51] collusion with uh vaccine makers in [00:05:55] collusion with the government [00:05:58] organizations for us it's the FDA are [00:06:00] all colluding for you guys the NIH are [00:06:03] all colluding to lie to people like [00:06:05] you'd have to actually be a Madman to [00:06:07] think that first um and I got to think [00:06:09] that first because I got vaccine injury [00:06:12] injured when I was younger and survived [00:06:13] it so I was I was already I had arrived [00:06:15] at that [00:06:17] conclusion it's what's been so [00:06:20] devastating for me and I don't use the [00:06:22] word lightly or casually is the trust [00:06:27] issue I I trusted the [00:06:31] establishment I feel I feel ridiculous [00:06:34] saying it even although I've said it [00:06:35] many times now I still it still makes me [00:06:38] blush metaphorically at least whenever I [00:06:40] hear myself saying it but I just assumed [00:06:43] that whether they were uh red or blue [00:06:46] whether they were left or right uh that [00:06:48] the The Establishment the government of [00:06:50] the day was uh basically had my mine and [00:06:54] my family's interests at [00:06:56] heart they would have ideological [00:06:58] differences about politics and and and [00:07:00] society and all of the rest of it but [00:07:02] basically they would keep the lights on [00:07:03] they would come and empty the The Refuge [00:07:05] there would be schools there'd be [00:07:06] hospitals there'd be food in the shops [00:07:08] and that they basically wanted me and [00:07:10] mine to be well and the realization that [00:07:13] I came to over a very painful almost a [00:07:17] period almost like grieving that [00:07:19] actually on the contrary at at best they [00:07:22] didn't care if I lived or died and at [00:07:25] worst there might actually be something [00:07:26] malevolent at play that's what's made me [00:07:29] so angry because you know it's like [00:07:32] being betrayed by a by a lifelong [00:07:35] monogamous spouse you know I feel as if [00:07:39] I just feel so foolish that I that I [00:07:42] placed that trust we got our kids my [00:07:44] kids are now uh 218 and 16 at the time [00:07:49] when they were little we got them all [00:07:50] the MMR vir vaccinations you know the [00:07:53] measles Ms and rebella uh and we you [00:07:56] know we did it for all three as you know [00:07:58] they were born about each you two years [00:08:00] apart and we we marched these little [00:08:02] bodies into the into the doctor's [00:08:03] surgery and we got those we got those [00:08:05] vaccinations and now I look back on and [00:08:07] I think well we just weren't we were [00:08:10] just so blly naive for you we didn't we [00:08:13] didn't take the the co uh products we [00:08:16] managed to keep my kids away from the co [00:08:18] products as well and if it's the thing [00:08:21] that I that we achieved as parents I [00:08:22] think we're probably happiest about in [00:08:25] all of it in all of the years the fact [00:08:27] that the fact that we kept those needles [00:08:29] from their arms at that point is a you [00:08:31] know was has come down as a great uh has [00:08:33] come down as a great accomplishment but [00:08:35] you know what I mean it's that feeling [00:08:37] of it's Awakening to the loss of trust [00:08:40] is [00:08:41] devastating yeah it is devastating and [00:08:43] beyond that you go through this period [00:08:45] of cognitive dissonance where you start [00:08:47] wondering like am I crazy like how could [00:08:49] this possibly be my entire life I [00:08:51] believed this I did this how could I [00:08:53] have been so wrong and that's and that's [00:08:55] what you're describing as like it still [00:08:56] makes me blush to to look back on your [00:08:58] former self to realize that I had trust [00:09:00] in the establishment but I always tell [00:09:02] people like I said you you'd have to [00:09:04] have been crazy not to have trust in [00:09:06] them considering they have created and I [00:09:09] I hate to overuse this term but it is in [00:09:11] fact a matrix of sorts they're [00:09:13] controlling the textbooks right most [00:09:14] people go to public school the [00:09:16] information that they're getting is [00:09:17] telling you that it is actually a token [00:09:19] of your education to read the New York [00:09:22] Times and to and to and to register that [00:09:25] as the reality of everything that's [00:09:26] happening in the world you know you guys [00:09:28] probably have a different you know trust [00:09:29] Ed newspaper maybe the times of London [00:09:32] um they're telling you that it's a token [00:09:34] of your education to vaccinate your [00:09:36] children like thank goodness you're not [00:09:38] just like a poor child in Africa and we [00:09:40] get to have this remarkably educated [00:09:42] Society where we get to vac our children [00:09:43] and we can go to the doctor and so [00:09:46] everything from the moment that you are [00:09:49] handing your children over to the [00:09:50] government is to plug them into this [00:09:53] Matrix unquestioningly it is it is the [00:09:56] enslavement of the mind and they've [00:09:59] accomplished it and it is evil but the [00:10:02] thing is is they went too far they just [00:10:06] went too far and inevitably that's what [00:10:08] happens you know lies eventually [00:10:10] collapse under their own weight and [00:10:12] we're at that moment and that's what [00:10:13] keeps me so [00:10:15] optimistic I I agree up to a point uh [00:10:19] Candice but I thought when I mentioned [00:10:21] the fouryear time span because in recent [00:10:24] weeks that the fact that we're four [00:10:25] years in has really begun to uh pre on [00:10:29] my mind mind because I I struggle with [00:10:32] the fact that so much has been revealed [00:10:35] now in the past few years about the [00:10:37] Damage Done by lockdown about the Damage [00:10:39] Done by the by the medical interventions [00:10:42] you know about the meaninglessness of [00:10:43] masks and magic arrows on on shop floors [00:10:46] and and keep six feet apart and all of [00:10:49] that uh then there's you know you get [00:10:51] into the the the nature of the proxy war [00:10:54] in Ukraine you get into the nature of [00:10:56] what's happening in Gaza so much is out [00:10:59] there in plain sight almost being [00:11:01] admitted to and yet it doesn't seem to [00:11:05] matter you know the the the corruption [00:11:07] of the Biden family you know the the Mi [00:11:09] the millions that that were aced by by [00:11:11] by selling access to Joe Biden as vice [00:11:13] president to to Obama it gets out there [00:11:16] the truth is out there and we were [00:11:18] supposed to believe that the truth is a [00:11:19] lion that only needs to be set free and [00:11:21] it'll take care of itself but it doesn't [00:11:23] seem to be bringing down any of the [00:11:26] culprits you know I in terms of the [00:11:28] people that have imparted the evil no [00:11:31] you're correct because they have a [00:11:32] tremendous amount of power and they're [00:11:33] never going to penalize themselves but [00:11:36] like I said when you're speaking about [00:11:39] the rift right now that you feel and [00:11:42] that is a rift between the people that [00:11:44] are governing over us and the people [00:11:46] that are being governed people are [00:11:47] waking up and that is a problem for them [00:11:49] is it going to be overnight no but it's [00:11:51] happening slowly it's actually I think [00:11:52] it's happening quite quickly and if you [00:11:54] just examine for example in America [00:11:57] these mainstream media ources are just [00:12:00] not watched or listened to anymore I [00:12:02] people are pursuing independent voices [00:12:05] for a reason and so it may not feel like [00:12:08] the shift is radical enough because [00:12:10] you're still perceiving what the [00:12:11] mainstream media is saying and there [00:12:13] there is also a contingent of the [00:12:14] population which still listens to them [00:12:17] but even to those individuals I have [00:12:20] compassion for them I get it right [00:12:22] imagine you are a person who has based [00:12:25] your entire life and your entire [00:12:27] identity within this Matrix let's say [00:12:30] you are a doctor I am one of those [00:12:32] people yeah but even further like you [00:12:35] are a psychologist you are a nurse you [00:12:38] are like everything you've ever done and [00:12:40] you're you're 55 years old 65 years old [00:12:43] whatever it is are you really going to [00:12:46] to want to undo all of that that means [00:12:48] to undo yourself in many ways and most [00:12:51] people either don't have the humility or [00:12:54] do not have the emotional expanse they [00:12:56] don't do they don't want to go through [00:12:58] that trauma [00:12:59] and so they're they'd rather stay within [00:13:02] a system of abuse they really would [00:13:04] rather stay within a system of abuse [00:13:05] because it makes sense to them and this [00:13:06] gets into by the way we can we can talk [00:13:08] about philosophers of old we're talking [00:13:10] about the concept of slavery whether [00:13:12] it's natural Plato Augustine they were [00:13:14] they were grappling with this concept [00:13:17] um and we we don't know what the answer [00:13:20] is like some people do find it easier to [00:13:23] just be ruled over it's easier to not [00:13:25] have to think and to just do whatever [00:13:27] you're told yes I have I have come to [00:13:31] realize that it would appear that [00:13:33] freedom is an honorous responsibility [00:13:35] mhm it it's it's a burden to it's a [00:13:38] burden it's not a burden it's a weight [00:13:40] to carry it's a [00:13:42] responsibility and then and when you [00:13:44] when you invite people to contemplate a [00:13:46] notion like [00:13:47] inalienable I only really started [00:13:49] pondering the nation of inalienable [00:13:51] rights relatively recently in that you [00:13:55] it's they're they're given to you by [00:13:58] well God that you they're not given to [00:14:00] you by a human being therefore they [00:14:01] can't be taken away from you by a human [00:14:03] being but the point is in being an [00:14:05] alienable even if you want to you can't [00:14:08] give it [00:14:09] up I I I find that I find that [00:14:12] profoundly [00:14:13] moving you you have it's only when your [00:14:17] freedom is threatened actually it's when [00:14:18] someone comes to you and says I want [00:14:20] your freedom I want to enslave you even [00:14:22] if you want to even if it would be [00:14:24] easier for you to go along with that you [00:14:26] can't because of the nature of the right [00:14:29] of the freedom being inalienable it's at [00:14:32] that moment that you have to say I'm [00:14:33] going to have to fight to the death on [00:14:35] this because I cannot lose this freedom [00:14:39] but with my [00:14:40] life you you're going to have to rip out [00:14:43] of me like my Beating [00:14:44] Heart that the option to be a slave is [00:14:47] not actually your gift to [00:14:50] Grant you have to be free and I find [00:14:52] that profoundly moving it is and and and [00:14:56] so I think there are so many people that [00:14:58] are similarly grappling with that [00:15:01] concept and some people are demanding [00:15:04] more restrictions because they don't [00:15:06] want to confront that they're they're [00:15:08] they they like the idea of everybody [00:15:10] stay at home and turn on your TV screens [00:15:12] and listen to what they're telling you [00:15:14] to do don't you know let your [00:15:15] grandmother die alone they actually want [00:15:18] Society to become more restricted [00:15:20] because they're not capable of [00:15:22] confronting their own inalienable rights [00:15:26] and I I I truly believe that it's all it [00:15:28] is a form of at times laziness and at [00:15:33] times [00:15:34] cowardice and for me I've never [00:15:37] struggled with either of those things I [00:15:40] I always feel relieved um to recognize [00:15:44] something that I've gotten wrong because [00:15:46] then I go now I can correct this and [00:15:48] that allows me to be more free like I am [00:15:51] now more free because I know this and [00:15:52] it's going to be good for my kids to [00:15:54] inherit this true freedom because the [00:15:56] only true Freedom that exists is is the [00:15:58] freedom of the [00:16:00] mind when you had your Awakening as you [00:16:04] you know in the aftermath of the of the [00:16:06] seizure that you described in your in [00:16:08] your [00:16:09] teens and and you began that process of [00:16:12] thinking well if if if I've been misled [00:16:16] about these medical interventions what [00:16:18] else what else is a drift [00:16:22] here what was the what were some of the [00:16:24] next steps that you made so that you [00:16:27] were now suspicious about big farmer [00:16:32] what what else did you begin to look at [00:16:34] and think wait a minute if that's wrong [00:16:36] what about this over here so it's funny [00:16:39] because at the time I would say that I [00:16:41] was I always describe it as like a [00:16:42] sleepy liberal like sleepy left leaning [00:16:44] as in I was in university most people [00:16:46] are believe they left leaning you're [00:16:49] being your mind is being poisoned every [00:16:50] single day and I didn't correlate it to [00:16:53] politics at all it was just for me I was [00:16:56] never going to get another vaccine in my [00:16:57] life that was kind of my mind that had [00:16:59] made up and I knew that someday when I [00:17:00] had children my children were not going [00:17:01] to be vaccinated and I knew that would [00:17:03] be a tough sell to whoever I married and [00:17:06] trying to explain why I was so [00:17:07] passionate about it but I didn't get to [00:17:10] the next step and I suppose what it did [00:17:12] was that it planted a seed that big lies [00:17:14] are plausible and I didn't get to the [00:17:16] next step until black lives matter and [00:17:18] Donald Trump and I was again on the left [00:17:21] but I was sort of very shocked when [00:17:23] Donald Trump said I'm running for [00:17:25] president United States and I said oh no [00:17:27] this guy can't be president come on he's [00:17:29] on the TV show he's a character [00:17:32] Obama is able to communicate he's one of [00:17:35] the greatest orators of our time no way [00:17:37] we're going from Obama to this guy like [00:17:38] did not want Donald Trump to get elected [00:17:41] and then I was quite surprised because [00:17:44] that wasn't enough like the mainstream [00:17:46] media went so extreme in trying to [00:17:47] convince me that he was Adolf Hitler and [00:17:49] that my like Duty as a black person was [00:17:52] to vote otherwise I was going to be back [00:17:55] on a slave ship I mean it was Bonkers [00:17:58] their rhetoric wasn't insane and I found [00:18:00] that to be laughable because he was in [00:18:02] the public Sphere for decades and no one [00:18:04] said this at all I'm like when he just [00:18:06] when he decided to run for president you [00:18:08] realized oh my God no actually he's [00:18:10] Adolf Hitler and he wants to enslave [00:18:12] black Americans and so it was too it was [00:18:14] too quick of a shift and I just went [00:18:17] okay that's weird I'm going to listen to [00:18:18] this guy speak and see why the the media [00:18:20] who I love and Trust still are getting [00:18:23] you know so crazy about him and I [00:18:26] listened to one of his speeches and he [00:18:27] gave a very [00:18:30] sound I thought elevator pitch to Black [00:18:32] America like he just started rattling [00:18:33] off statistics and the ways that we were [00:18:35] suffering in our communities all of them [00:18:37] were true and said look you've given [00:18:38] your vote to democrats for x amount of [00:18:41] years I'm I'm just saying why don't you [00:18:42] just try something new with me just try [00:18:44] something different and then I watched [00:18:46] the media take him completely out of [00:18:48] context and the fake tears you know [00:18:51] black black journalists he looked Black [00:18:54] America in the face and told us that we [00:18:56] were poor he's so and I just went whoa [00:18:59] and so that really was the earth [00:19:01] shattering moment for me because that [00:19:03] was when I went through that cognitive [00:19:04] dissidence of like is it plausible that [00:19:07] everything I thought was true is not [00:19:09] like this is the upside down moment [00:19:10] because I thought the left and the [00:19:12] Democrats were the good guys fighting [00:19:13] for rights and I then had to confront [00:19:15] the idea that all of those people that I [00:19:18] had dismissed as like backwards and [00:19:20] racists and rednecks and you know want [00:19:23] wish that black Americans were still [00:19:24] enslaved may have been lied about and [00:19:28] that was hard like that was actually [00:19:30] hard and the only way that I could that [00:19:32] I could get through that was through [00:19:34] true education meaning I started buying [00:19:36] books from people that I had dismissed [00:19:39] in my head as race Traders and the [00:19:42] person who completely changed me was [00:19:45] Thomas soul I I started reading Thomas [00:19:47] Soul's book and I there was no coming [00:19:49] back from [00:19:51] that I I was I was made aware of Thomas [00:19:54] soul I don't [00:19:57] know before before co uh he had started [00:20:01] cropping up for for whatever reason and [00:20:03] I started reading him and likewise that [00:20:06] was a Great Awakening for me that that [00:20:09] that was a sense in which I I I was I [00:20:12] was made to confront the possibility [00:20:13] that the a large part of the the uh the [00:20:18] the Civil Rights uh whatever black lives [00:20:21] matter the Democrat Party The Party of [00:20:24] of the people that it was upside down [00:20:27] what what Thomas was saying I thought [00:20:29] can that be true cuz this guy certainly [00:20:31] looks and sounds credible I'm going to [00:20:33] have I'm going to have I'm going to have [00:20:35] difficulty thinking that this guy is you [00:20:37] know is is not uh is not qualified to [00:20:40] say these things what what do you what [00:20:43] how do you assess then uh you know fast [00:20:45] forward to now uh Trump and and Kennedy [00:20:49] Jr what what's your reading of [00:20:52] that apparent Unity of [00:20:57] intent in regard [00:20:59] to what like do I think theying bu do [00:21:02] you buy [00:21:03] it does it seem authentic to you or does [00:21:06] it or does it seem like or does it seem [00:21:08] like a a [00:21:09] play I don't think it's a play I think [00:21:12] both of them first and formost if you're [00:21:15] running and you're Trump and you know [00:21:17] that actually a large contingent of your [00:21:20] voter base was keen on RFK Jr uh I would [00:21:23] say definitely like Suburban moms were [00:21:26] keen on RFK Jr because they preferred [00:21:29] his demeanor preferred his rhetoric I [00:21:30] mean even conservative women you will [00:21:32] still have that continue who just like I [00:21:34] just don't like the way Trump speaks and [00:21:36] they liked RFK Jr and so I think it was [00:21:41] look I'm gonna back up Trump because and [00:21:43] for this is from RFK Jr's perspective I [00:21:46] I truly believe that what the left wants [00:21:48] to implement is evil and so if I have to [00:21:50] back someone and also they treated him [00:21:52] terribly I'm going to back Trump and [00:21:54] then from Trump I think their team is [00:21:56] just thinking well it's good because [00:21:58] this shows how radical the left is but [00:22:01] is it a true partnership in terms of [00:22:03] their ideas no and uh one of my [00:22:08] concerns is I wonder if him partnering [00:22:12] with RFK Jr while it does plate a piece [00:22:16] of the base if it abandons [00:22:18] another because there are people many [00:22:21] people who just think I don't want you [00:22:24] to play Kate I don't want you to make [00:22:26] friends I want a person who's going to [00:22:29] be out there saying we're going [00:22:31] isolationist okay I don't hear I don't [00:22:33] care about women Marching In the Streets [00:22:36] about reproductive I'm not I don't care [00:22:38] about any of that it's all an evil here [00:22:41] is my stance and if I'm standing here [00:22:44] saying that alone and making no friends [00:22:46] then so be it and I think really by the [00:22:49] way that would [00:22:51] be a more honest embodiment of America [00:22:56] first right just America first I [00:22:58] actually don't care to make friends I [00:22:59] don't care about any of the stuff I I'm [00:23:01] going to tell you what is evil and what [00:23:02] is not and that's [00:23:04] it since you you know you you say you [00:23:08] use the word evil uh and I for years now [00:23:12] I've been being contacted by people who [00:23:14] use the word evil they talk about this [00:23:17] being about Good and Evil light and dark [00:23:19] right and [00:23:20] wrong uh I I I find it I H I initially [00:23:24] found it very difficult to uh [00:23:27] conceptualize [00:23:29] evil I did I thought we're getting we're [00:23:32] getting away from the the everyday World [00:23:35] here that I've that I've inhabited for [00:23:37] for all of these decades we're now [00:23:39] moving into [00:23:41] terrain into which I have not really [00:23:43] previously stepped or explored but that [00:23:47] word comes at me too often now for me to [00:23:52] well I certainly won't dismiss it out of [00:23:55] hand do you do you feel that we're [00:23:58] dealing with actual [00:24:01] malevolence actual evil that that rather [00:24:04] than has just being caught in the cogs [00:24:07] of a big machine for which we are just [00:24:09] you know dots on spreadsheets flashing [00:24:12] lights on screens do you do you detect [00:24:15] evil [00:24:17] intent yeah I don't just feel it I know [00:24:19] it you know I've spent time I've done [00:24:21] the research and it is full [00:24:24] unadulterated evil that we are [00:24:26] confronting right now and it when we're [00:24:29] referring to a global Elite a a small [00:24:31] group of people that have amassed power [00:24:34] over almost the entire world the kind of [00:24:37] evil that can control the media and [00:24:41] compel the human race into action uh [00:24:45] knowing that it is going to harm them [00:24:47] the kind of evil that can tell a global [00:24:50] lie and get away with it [00:24:54] and not even care that you're harming [00:24:57] and this is really for me [00:24:58] the litmus test children like are you so [00:25:01] evil okay you okay you created this [00:25:04] virus in a lab I'm convinced they've [00:25:05] been creating viruses and labs for a [00:25:07] very long time um You release this upon [00:25:10] the population you are able to modify [00:25:12] human behavior on the basis of it you've [00:25:14] got grandmothers dying alone okay can we [00:25:19] leave the kids out of it no they tried [00:25:21] to compel children to get this vaccine [00:25:23] they knew that young people were getting [00:25:25] myocarditis they knew and they censor [00:25:28] that information and the journalists [00:25:30] helped them so at the top you have evil [00:25:33] in between there you have greed right so [00:25:35] you go why would a why would a why would [00:25:36] a journalist who knows that this what [00:25:40] they're saying is not true be writing [00:25:42] these hit pieces calling people antiva [00:25:44] were they're being compelled by greed we [00:25:45] know that fizer was sponsoring I mean [00:25:48] you have CNN say something and then a [00:25:49] fiser commercial would come out right [00:25:51] via advertisements keeping these people [00:25:53] afloat and most people then beyond the [00:25:56] evil beyond the read you then have a [00:25:59] large category of people that are just [00:26:02] cowards right and their their behavior [00:26:05] is being Modified by the Badness of [00:26:07] crowds which is to say well I don't want [00:26:09] to be the person not wearing a mask you [00:26:12] know I don't want to be I don't want to [00:26:13] be the person that stands out and I was [00:26:15] just like nope not happening it's just [00:26:17] not going to happen and I was strong on [00:26:20] that I mean I wouldn't even allow people [00:26:22] I'm like this is my home if you're going [00:26:23] to wear a mask you can't come over my [00:26:25] children are not going to see people [00:26:26] wearing masks I'm not going to accept [00:26:28] this as The New Normal so it's a [00:26:31] combination of all of that but at the [00:26:33] top it's it's [00:26:35] evil because I I look on it I look on it [00:26:38] what's happening in or I've been looking [00:26:40] on it what's happening in [00:26:41] Ukraine uh and I've been paying close [00:26:44] attention to it and talking to people [00:26:46] about it from the start and because of [00:26:49] the because of the the loss of trust I'd [00:26:52] experienced during covid I was instantly [00:26:54] suspicious about what was happening in [00:26:56] Ukraine it seemed too convenient [00:26:58] that they suddenly had this upon which [00:27:00] to focus everyone's [00:27:01] attention um and by now and and and of [00:27:04] course I watched our own you know former [00:27:07] prime minister Boris Johnson as The you [00:27:09] know as the NATO bag carrier who went [00:27:10] out and scuppered the peace deal which [00:27:12] was already you know was already on the [00:27:14] table and and that that has led well [00:27:18] directly really to S well I was talking [00:27:20] to uh Colonel Douglas McGregor the other [00:27:23] night and he he was quoting a figure of [00:27:25] 600,000 Ukrainian Dead uh and then [00:27:27] there's there's Russian dead on top of [00:27:29] that and and then I look at the I look [00:27:32] at what's happening in [00:27:34] Gaza and and that the brunt of the of [00:27:37] the of the suffering there and and and [00:27:39] the most of the dying is is women and [00:27:42] children and babies and that and that I [00:27:45] live in a world that's that's blly [00:27:47] looking on at both of those uh sequences [00:27:51] of events [00:27:52] unfolding and we're it's like watching [00:27:55] it's like watching a a car crash in slow [00:27:58] and being unable to do anything to stop [00:28:00] it and it it you say children and you [00:28:03] see evil and the motivations behind [00:28:07] those things increasingly I find it [00:28:09] impossible to deny but that it's [00:28:11] malevolent intent [00:28:14] mhm we [00:28:16] installed after a color Revolution a [00:28:20] leader in Ukraine that we could control [00:28:22] that leader was Then followed up by [00:28:23] another leader who was an actor which [00:28:25] just an actor zinski and he is still an [00:28:27] actor [00:28:28] right and he's a bad faith actor what's [00:28:31] happening in Ukraine is what has [00:28:33] happened in Ukraine before there's [00:28:35] nothing new Under the Sun it is a [00:28:36] Christian genocide they are [00:28:38] intentionally Mass murdering men in an [00:28:39] unwinable War Christian men being [00:28:41] dragged from their homes thrown into [00:28:44] Vans against their will to what end I am [00:28:46] unsure but what what he's doing I have [00:28:48] no question about it is it is it is a a [00:28:50] genocide of Christian men that's [00:28:52] happening H with the full blessing of [00:28:55] the mainstream media their job is to [00:28:58] convince the Western world that this is [00:29:00] really happening because of big evil [00:29:01] Russia and not because they have more [00:29:04] mellian plans a foot there the Gaza [00:29:08] situation for me has [00:29:11] been it is shocking for me because of [00:29:15] how many men have platforms now you know [00:29:18] you you wonder how could somebody sit [00:29:20] back and allow this we have ex you're [00:29:23] seeing the footage you're hearing the [00:29:24] mothers screaming in pain you have [00:29:27] doctors that are writing pieces telling [00:29:29] you that this is an Annihilation I've [00:29:30] been in war zones I went out there [00:29:32] Doctors Without Borders and I'm telling [00:29:33] you this is an intentional Annihilation [00:29:35] you have the footage and it looks like [00:29:38] Dresden and you are just going to accept [00:29:43] the narrative that the media is telling [00:29:46] you that there is just children and [00:29:49] women everyone's being used as a human [00:29:50] shield what is that well um one end it's [00:29:54] greed people knowing where their bread [00:29:56] is buttered and knowing that if you take [00:29:57] a different From perspective you'll lose [00:29:59] your job uh and on the other hand it's [00:30:02] cowardice I always see these two things [00:30:04] it's between these two things I I I just [00:30:06] I'm going to stay away from that [00:30:07] narrative because I've got kids and I've [00:30:09] got to feed my children and I understand [00:30:12] that the media is only allowed to have [00:30:13] one [00:30:14] perspective I don't know that when you [00:30:18] enter the big Court like when you are [00:30:21] going to have to account for your life [00:30:23] before God if greed and cowardice are [00:30:26] going to cut it when you have to explain [00:30:29] why you had a platform and said nothing [00:30:32] as you watched women and children and [00:30:34] their homes be [00:30:37] annihilated do do you think Candace that [00:30:40] is Christianity you mentioned Christian [00:30:43] men in Ukraine do you think Christianity [00:30:45] in particular is in is in is in the [00:30:48] crosshairs do you think Christianity is [00:30:50] is the [00:30:52] obstacle yes and and it's always been [00:30:54] that way and and the more that I got [00:30:56] into real history and got out of my I [00:30:59] deprogrammed myself and recognized that [00:31:02] virtually everything that I was told um [00:31:04] was an intentional partial illustration [00:31:06] or an outright lie in terms of learning [00:31:09] history I then began to read books and [00:31:12] the more that I got into actual history [00:31:16] it brought me to Faith and I've realized [00:31:19] there's a reason the these groups went [00:31:22] after the Bible and used to teach the [00:31:24] Bible that was just a mainstream thing [00:31:25] that was taught in school that got taken [00:31:27] taken out of the school system that was [00:31:29] no longer being taught because that is [00:31:30] the story of man and the and then they [00:31:33] wanted to usher in this era of scientism [00:31:36] as CS Lewis refers to it as to replace [00:31:40] god with the concept of science Making [00:31:42] people think that they come from apes [00:31:43] everything can be explained by a [00:31:45] scientist and Trust the experts and [00:31:47] there you had Generations not even [00:31:50] realizing that they were subjecting [00:31:52] themselves to a demonic Antichrist [00:31:56] narrative where is placed at the center [00:31:59] we start we started worshiping [00:32:01] man various men a form of of paganism [00:32:04] really and minting these people like Dr [00:32:07] fouchi as gods and the more that I [00:32:11] looked into history I realized that [00:32:12] there is a Christian conspiracy so to [00:32:15] speak where everything they have done [00:32:17] has been to divide up the church to [00:32:20] attack the church and to sell you a [00:32:22] different narrative as to why I mean I [00:32:24] I'll take it a step further now when I [00:32:26] examine all these wars that are [00:32:27] happening in the Middle East I am [00:32:28] certain that the reason is because you [00:32:31] they are bombing the oldest we have been [00:32:33] bombing non-stop in the west the oldest [00:32:36] plac I mean we're talking Syria [00:32:38] Afghanistan and there are priests [00:32:40] speaking out saying they've bomb they [00:32:42] keep bombing all of these old [00:32:44] architectures all of these old churches [00:32:46] all of these things that hold Real [00:32:48] History well yeah you got to wipe away [00:32:50] history if you're going to plan on [00:32:52] presenting an or Willian future where [00:32:54] there is no such thing as history and [00:32:55] it's just this ever present I think that [00:32:57] is the reason [00:32:58] why they are after um in Iraq in in Iran [00:33:03] in like I said Syria nobody knows what [00:33:05] we're doing in Syria why why we've just [00:33:07] been bombing Syria into Oblivion and [00:33:10] because the history holds the F holds [00:33:13] the answers to the [00:33:15] Future and [00:33:17] so it it the whole the whole thing this [00:33:21] is what I find I feel [00:33:24] UNM I feel as if uh the L [00:33:28] that that held me in place and and gave [00:33:32] me the security of being able to [00:33:35] understand where I was and how I fitted [00:33:37] in I feel as if all of that's been cut [00:33:39] away and that and that I now find myself [00:33:42] having conversations about [00:33:44] evil uh and about faith and about [00:33:47] Christianity I I wonder if if it isn't [00:33:51] the the necessary [00:33:53] step you you to get beneath or behind [00:33:56] what you describe was The [00:33:58] Matrix and to get back to some of these [00:34:01] fundamental places and and look at them [00:34:04] again as though for the first time you [00:34:06] know like Syria and Iraq you know these [00:34:09] these places where where deep history is [00:34:11] embedded and and even deeper history [00:34:14] Closer by I wonder if that's part of the [00:34:16] necessary recovery that we [00:34:20] need to you know to to to get away from [00:34:23] from this [00:34:24] Matrix yeah well it's one of the reasons [00:34:26] why I was baptized Catholic I I think [00:34:28] they've been holding a candle for a very [00:34:30] long time it's why Catholics are so [00:34:31] hated and and even that was a a very [00:34:34] careful Evil operation to dissuade and [00:34:37] I'm speaking about America but obviously [00:34:39] also in the UK um to dissuade the West [00:34:42] against the Catholic church because they [00:34:44] know Real History they've been they've [00:34:45] been keeping it for thousands of years [00:34:48] and yes it has always been a holy war [00:34:51] everything else is just materialistic [00:34:53] and surface you know you you what you're [00:34:55] being told it's all surface and and it's [00:34:58] in they're intentionally giving you all [00:34:59] of this information and no real [00:35:01] information once you begin to examine [00:35:02] world events through the lens of a holy [00:35:05] war things suddenly make a lot more [00:35:07] sense and you will find yourself at the [00:35:10] moment that you begin speaking about [00:35:11] faith under attack from the mainstream [00:35:14] media what is divided cannot stand who's [00:35:17] winning if it's a if it a if it's a holy [00:35:20] war if it's a war of Faith who's got [00:35:23] who's got the upper [00:35:24] hand goodness always wins in the end and [00:35:27] and that that that is the reality [00:35:29] because truth always wins defeats a lie [00:35:32] a lie can only win temporarily that's [00:35:34] why they say a lie makes its way around [00:35:36] the world before the truth puts its [00:35:38] shoes on in the morning but once the [00:35:40] truth is there it's the truth it it's [00:35:42] inexorable and I think that is what is [00:35:45] terrifying the elite because they have [00:35:48] so carefully laid this illusion because [00:35:51] that's what it is everything has you you [00:35:52] start to come to terms with has been one [00:35:55] great [00:35:56] illusion and and once you become sober [00:35:59] to that you become a threat to the [00:36:01] establishment and which is why I go back [00:36:03] to an analogy of the Matrix everyone [00:36:06] becomes a Neo and they're able to see [00:36:08] through and cut through all of the lies [00:36:10] and when now when I examine like agent [00:36:11] Smith that replica every you know [00:36:14] chasing Neil throughout the entire movie [00:36:15] I see that as the mainstream media we're [00:36:19] going to get you you can't you can't be [00:36:20] doing that you can't wake up the masses [00:36:21] we need everybody asleep we need [00:36:23] everybody to be plugged into this this [00:36:25] is this is a threat to our code [00:36:28] you've been so I mean you're so under [00:36:30] the under the C under the under the gun [00:36:33] and have have been for a sustained [00:36:35] period of time in terms of censorship in [00:36:37] terms of Silence in terms of these kind [00:36:38] of you know attacks that are leveled at [00:36:40] you [00:36:42] um where from whence comes the the [00:36:46] strength and the determination to just [00:36:49] look it in the [00:36:51] eye the Bible Faith and family and it's [00:36:56] weird how optimistic I am I I always [00:36:58] think that it would drive them crazy if [00:36:59] they knew how happy I was despite their [00:37:02] NeverEnding attacks because I just I see [00:37:05] it falling apart I know that they're [00:37:07] writing this way about me because [00:37:09] they're fearful they see it they know [00:37:12] goodness is awake now they know the [00:37:14] truth is putting its shoes on and [00:37:16] there's only so many articles you can [00:37:17] write calling everybody a Nazi apologist [00:37:20] and a racist and a homophobe and a [00:37:22] transphobe and it's not Landing anymore [00:37:25] and I enjoy that and I enjoy knowing [00:37:28] that what is real can't be threatened [00:37:30] they have no power over me because they [00:37:32] don't have real power they have an [00:37:34] illusion of power and that illusion has [00:37:36] worked for a long time but real power [00:37:39] comes from faith and real power comes [00:37:41] from the home I I find it I find it [00:37:44] almost amusing now almost amusing now [00:37:47] that I've I have now collected so many [00:37:50] uh uh labels like Scout badges you know [00:37:52] I feel as if I should have them stitched [00:37:54] onto my sleeve you know I've been antiva [00:37:57] or OT granny killer uh anti-masker pu [00:38:01] Putin apologist anti-semite uh racist uh [00:38:06] the whole the whole G the whole gamut [00:38:08] you know I have had a whole lot and I [00:38:09] almost find it laughable that the the [00:38:12] previous Incarnation that I had you know [00:38:15] when I used to make soft history [00:38:16] documentaries and soft archaeology [00:38:19] documentaries and I I find myself [00:38:20] routinely labeled over and over again in [00:38:22] these ways as I say I almost am amused [00:38:25] by it but I hear you I do I forced [00:38:28] myself to be op I don't think I'm [00:38:30] optimistic by nature but I'm married to [00:38:32] a woman who is more optimistic than I am [00:38:35] and she she pulls me forward she is [00:38:38] she's she is irresistible and inexorable [00:38:41] in her determination to keep to keep the [00:38:43] thing moving forward so you know I'm I'm [00:38:45] blessed in in that regard but in the [00:38:47] short term in the short term before we [00:38:49] get to the sunlet [00:38:50] Uplands would you say which whichi which [00:38:53] slice of civilization would you say is [00:38:56] uh is is is going craziest at the moment [00:38:58] is it the United States of America is it [00:39:01] the United Kingdom of Great Britain or [00:39:04] or is it some other I don't know [00:39:05] European country of your [00:39:07] choice well I would I would say it's a [00:39:09] combination it's just the West full stop [00:39:13] because there are no real lines between [00:39:17] the people who have control over America [00:39:20] and have control over the UK and have [00:39:21] control over Australia but Western [00:39:24] Society in general is going through [00:39:26] something it's very obvious and it's [00:39:31] seems crazy and it seems erratic and it [00:39:33] seems chaotic but there is this is the [00:39:38] natural process of everybody arriving at [00:39:40] truth like so I I celebrate this moment [00:39:43] I think it's beautiful we have slight [00:39:45] differences which you and I were [00:39:46] speaking about offline between what's [00:39:49] happening in America so basically the [00:39:50] mainstream media apparatus knows that [00:39:52] you have to make a different appeal to [00:39:55] the English than you have to make an [00:39:56] appeal to the American because we have [00:39:58] different characters and different [00:39:59] concerns so they tweak their message a [00:40:01] little bit but I find that people seem [00:40:04] to be Awakening all around um like I was [00:40:08] when there were calls to ban me from [00:40:11] Australia I mean we're talking real [00:40:12] they're they are terrified so terrified [00:40:16] mom of three Catholic get her out of [00:40:18] here um I realized wow this this [00:40:21] movement this truth [00:40:24] movement it has gone mainstream it's [00:40:27] going mainstream and they know it [00:40:28] because they're becoming more dramatic [00:40:30] and erratic in how they're trying to put [00:40:33] the genie back in the bottle but the [00:40:34] genie is not going back in the bottle [00:40:36] doesn't work that [00:40:37] way I I already I already H have some uh [00:40:43] trepidation about the way in which the [00:40:47] pendulum will swing [00:40:49] back because of how far the pendulum's [00:40:52] been pushed in One [00:40:54] Direction but I'm but already I feel as [00:40:59] it's slowing down over on that extreme [00:41:02] other weight is jumping onto it already [00:41:05] and that I I'm already trepidacious [00:41:08] about the [00:41:10] swaye that's going to be cut by that [00:41:13] pulum as it swings [00:41:15] back it we don't we don't want we don't [00:41:17] want to end up at some other you know [00:41:20] equal and [00:41:21] opposite extreme you know it's if you're [00:41:25] right and I and I believe that you are I [00:41:27] have faith that you are right uh it's [00:41:30] going to have to [00:41:32] be carefully done isn't [00:41:35] it or or otherwise that if if the if the [00:41:39] pendulum goes all the way out to other [00:41:41] to The Other [00:41:42] Extreme other as yet unthought of [00:41:45] consequences will then [00:41:48] ensue yeah I mean for me the way that I [00:41:50] look at it is what's gone wrong has been [00:41:54] this sort of [00:41:56] administrative uh [00:41:58] or almost like an administrative state [00:42:00] so to speak and that was able to be [00:42:03] created by this full Reliance on the [00:42:06] government people believing that they're [00:42:07] atheists they're not they have the [00:42:08] strongest faith in the world atheists [00:42:10] have the strongest faith in the world [00:42:11] whenever there's no such thing as an [00:42:12] atheist they just replaced their faith [00:42:13] with something else and I think the way [00:42:16] that it swings back is with true faith [00:42:18] and true Faith leads you not to believe [00:42:21] in administrative Faith you don't [00:42:23] believe in that you it's all about what [00:42:24] you can do in your own home right and so [00:42:27] I don't I'm not looking for the opposite [00:42:29] Administration to be installed you know [00:42:32] well we have the CDC now we have to rely [00:42:33] on this it's like no we need to rely on [00:42:35] individuals and their families to make [00:42:37] the best decisions that they have in [00:42:39] their own household like I'm going to [00:42:41] homeschool my children I'm not longer [00:42:44] going to give my children to the state [00:42:47] and I think that's a beautiful solution [00:42:49] I think what can happen is like you're [00:42:51] saying people just go well we are not [00:42:53] listening to the NIH and the CDC so we [00:42:56] need to create a different kind of [00:42:57] bubble that's the other extremity and no [00:43:00] I believe in I I truly do believe in the [00:43:03] individual and the family as the best [00:43:07] solution to get back to because I think [00:43:09] about it more and more uh when you talk [00:43:12] about Christianity and and we've agreed [00:43:15] that it's it's having been in the [00:43:17] crosshairs of a of attack for for a very [00:43:19] sustained period of time it it [00:43:22] astonishes me that that's the message [00:43:26] that comes under such such sustained [00:43:28] attack [00:43:30] because I mean when you boil it down it [00:43:32] it it was it was only the message was [00:43:34] only ever to well to love God and love [00:43:37] your neighbor as [00:43:39] yourself it's a strange message to get [00:43:42] Des you know and it's been you know it's [00:43:44] been corrupted and it's been misused and [00:43:46] misapplied and there's been all sorts of [00:43:47] there's been all sorts of Horrors you [00:43:49] know resulting from the misapplication [00:43:51] and the misuse and the corruption of it [00:43:52] but it's always amazing to me that such [00:43:55] a simple message of talk about tolerance [00:43:58] and all the rest of it but love your [00:43:59] neighbor as [00:44:00] yourself has has has attracted so much [00:44:04] heat and anger over the years is a great [00:44:07] mystery to [00:44:08] me well it's not to me and not if you [00:44:11] have a state which seeks ultimate [00:44:14] omnipotence everything that the Bible is [00:44:16] providing with people is a tool to [00:44:19] believe in something that's bigger than [00:44:20] the state right and they don't want that [00:44:22] they want to be your God in your life so [00:44:25] the first thing you have to attack and [00:44:26] this is the first thing that is attacked [00:44:28] when when you when you look backward [00:44:29] into history and you look at Communist [00:44:30] States they don't want they don't want [00:44:32] religion they don't want Christians they [00:44:34] don't want that to happen because then [00:44:35] people have this inner power uh which [00:44:38] makes it impossible for them to rely on [00:44:40] humans you know this humanist agenda I I [00:44:43] Now understand we were completely lied [00:44:46] to about everything including the [00:44:48] enlightenment the enlightenment will be [00:44:50] once we get through this thing known as [00:44:51] the Dark Ages the Dark Ages were [00:44:53] actually the enlightenment it was a it [00:44:55] was a period of of remark arable [00:44:57] Christian progress and then they [00:44:59] completely inverted that and told us the [00:45:01] opposite and like no the enlightenment [00:45:02] once we started thinking about self and [00:45:05] how amazing we are as human beings there [00:45:07] were all of these breakthroughs no we've [00:45:09] been going downhill since and and so [00:45:12] they they have needed to attack the [00:45:15] Bible they have needed to make people [00:45:17] believe that there is no God because [00:45:19] they wanted to become the gods of people [00:45:21] live people's lives and you will see [00:45:22] that it was there was nobody who gave [00:45:25] more to the government during the time [00:45:26] of Co than the atheists because they [00:45:28] believe this is it right I could [00:45:31] possibly die if I breathe I will lock my [00:45:34] child in a closet and tell my mom not to [00:45:36] even call me if it means that I get to [00:45:38] to live to see tomorrow if that's what [00:45:40] if that's what the newscaster tells me [00:45:42] I'm doing it it's very scary right [00:45:45] whereas people that believe and know [00:45:46] that there's more would never subject [00:45:49] themselves to that and [00:45:52] didn't your faith was the Magic Bullet [00:45:54] that empowered so many people not to [00:45:57] take the interventions not to take the [00:45:59] Jabs for precisely the the reason that [00:46:02] you just articulated but and also in the [00:46:05] shorter in the short term again how do [00:46:08] we confront the very real threat of the [00:46:10] censorship at the moment you know the [00:46:12] attacks on uh on telegram the the [00:46:15] sustained attack on x/ Twitter you and [00:46:20] and the censorship that's already that's [00:46:22] already applied by [00:46:24] YouTube for whatever reasons I mean [00:46:26] that's a that's a that's a hugely [00:46:28] sorious platform and organ even as it is [00:46:31] how do you and I you know we're we're [00:46:33] communicating and in touch by this by [00:46:36] this miracle uh at the moment how do we [00:46:39] make sure we're not atomized one from [00:46:42] another by by the by the malevolent [00:46:45] forces that we've been talking about for [00:46:46] 3/4 of an hour uh you know cutting the [00:46:50] ties That Bind with their control of the [00:46:53] of the [00:46:54] technology right well one of the things [00:46:56] that I will say is and I hate to be the [00:46:59] eternal optimist about this but I do [00:47:01] think that everyone's paying attention [00:47:04] to what they're doing right and the fact [00:47:07] that we're having this conversation the [00:47:09] fact that despite everything that's [00:47:10] happened to me you know my podcast has [00:47:13] never been bigger what does it show you [00:47:14] it's having the opposite desired effect [00:47:16] so at this point those forces are [00:47:19] fighting to lose they're just fighting [00:47:21] to lose because the people are now awake [00:47:23] to what they're doing we don't live in [00:47:25] pre-co world anymore that that [00:47:27] authoritarianism is not going to work [00:47:30] and fortunately because they were so [00:47:32] heavy-handed during that time people [00:47:34] figured out how to get around it you [00:47:36] know people figured out okay I'm if I [00:47:38] actually want to hear the truth I'm [00:47:39] going to have to go somewhere else I'm [00:47:41] going to have to get on to this [00:47:43] newsletter or get onto this platform or [00:47:46] maybe this person's not on YouTube so [00:47:47] I'm going to have to download their [00:47:48] stuff on Spotify whatever it is and so [00:47:51] it allowed people to predict that that [00:47:53] could be coming and so I I am optimistic [00:47:58] because I've been predicting that at [00:47:59] some point YouTube was going to come [00:48:01] Hammer me and you know there were these [00:48:03] organized groups of the offshoots of the [00:48:06] ADL who were like let's just start Mass [00:48:08] reporting her account well because I'm [00:48:10] able to foresee that that may be a [00:48:11] conclusion Someday I'm I'm building my [00:48:13] own platform once I have more my own [00:48:15] platform I then would like to host other [00:48:17] people onto my own platform in the same [00:48:18] way that Tucker built his own platform [00:48:21] um and that's the way that it's going to [00:48:23] be forwards we're going to have to be [00:48:24] Innovative and we were not being [00:48:26] innovative before because we were [00:48:28] operating under this blind delusion that [00:48:30] things were fair and people wanted [00:48:32] speech and now we don't see that and so [00:48:34] we get to have the opportunity to be [00:48:36] creative what a [00:48:38] blessing do you put a timeline on any of [00:48:41] this Candace you know do you uh this [00:48:43] this better time this these sunlet [00:48:46] Uplands to which we might return uh do [00:48:49] you see it do you see and have a sense [00:48:52] of when it might we might tip over it [00:48:56] and and get onto the downhill [00:48:59] stretch I don't know but I know that [00:49:02] we're already in the Tilt that's very [00:49:04] obvious like I said based on their [00:49:07] theatrical responses to everything and [00:49:10] how those responses are no longer [00:49:12] Landing I and I will give you an [00:49:14] example fullon attack on Tucker Carlson [00:49:17] for hosting a historian who presented [00:49:20] some other facts about World War II [00:49:22] fullon attack I mean forget it wall [00:49:24] toall didn't impact anything tuers to [00:49:26] the top of the charts actually it made [00:49:28] it so it was like the most watched [00:49:30] podcast ever so I don't I don't know [00:49:32] when that exact Mo I think we're already [00:49:34] in the Tilt like we're already in the [00:49:36] Tilt [00:49:37] so it is it is fascinating the way the [00:49:41] the the tried and trusted techniques are [00:49:45] are hitting stumbling blocks i w I [00:49:48] watched that with great interest I I I [00:49:50] consume most of Tu Tucker's content um [00:49:55] the long form pod you know I just find [00:49:57] endlessly fascinating and I saw the the [00:50:01] darl Cooper [00:50:03] conversation and you know my my reaction [00:50:05] too I mean I'm not a credentialed [00:50:07] historian I'm I'm an archaeologist but [00:50:09] but I'm just I'm just a history buff uh [00:50:13] and I I listened to what darl Cooper had [00:50:16] to say just with just with open [00:50:18] Fascination I just I I don't [00:50:21] know I I love it when somebody comes at [00:50:24] a familiar topic from a different [00:50:25] direction M that doesn't that's never [00:50:28] that's never threatened me I've never [00:50:30] felt the urged to cry heretic gram [00:50:33] Hancock is someone in the who is reviled [00:50:35] by the the traditional archaeological [00:50:37] Community because he has you know he has [00:50:39] ideas about A Lost [00:50:41] Civilization uh you know you know the [00:50:44] truth of the of the flood narrative uh [00:50:47] you know he has a whole complicated [00:50:49] cosmology actually worked and the [00:50:50] traditional archaeology archaeological [00:50:52] Community come after them with [00:50:54] everything they've got and I've never [00:50:56] understood why because even even if he's [00:50:59] wrong what he says is at least [00:51:03] fascinating and likewise with someone [00:51:05] like I listened to the to the darl [00:51:07] Cooper Piece and I thought wow you know [00:51:09] you have definitely gone and consumed a [00:51:11] lot of content you've you have read a [00:51:13] great deal of material and how [00:51:16] fascinating simply to listen to you uh [00:51:19] elucidate your interpretation of it and [00:51:22] yet when the when the when that world [00:51:24] came after him to destroy them both the [00:51:26] tear down both Tucker and and Cooper on [00:51:28] on the strength of it it didn't it [00:51:31] didn't happen it didn't work yeah yeah [00:51:34] because our our Behavior has been [00:51:36] modified by covid now when people are [00:51:38] screaming and doing that song and dance [00:51:40] it makes people go okay what truth is in [00:51:42] here that I'm not supposed to know [00:51:43] because you did this already with the [00:51:45] antivaxers you did this you told me all [00:51:47] these people were crazy that they were [00:51:48] on hinge you know you can only say that [00:51:50] so many times before people just go okay [00:51:52] what are they freaking out about I said [00:51:53] that actually the strian effect wouldn't [00:51:56] have happened they just let it left it [00:51:57] alone if they just had let the episode [00:52:00] play it wouldn't have been the most [00:52:01] watched hucker Carlson episode next to [00:52:03] the Putin interview but they can't help [00:52:05] themselves because what we're dealing [00:52:06] with are a group of people who aren't [00:52:08] creative they aren't creative this it's [00:52:10] always worked for them we smear we liel [00:52:13] we call people unhinged we say they're [00:52:15] having a mental breakdown my favorite is [00:52:16] their new thing is um Candace is having [00:52:19] a postpartum [00:52:20] psychosis are you which is yes according [00:52:23] to the this is it's all the signs the [00:52:25] postpartum psychos which I love because [00:52:27] I've examined the history of psychology [00:52:29] and quite literally psychology modern [00:52:31] psychology the father of it being Sigman [00:52:34] Freud was a horrific pervert who covered [00:52:36] for pedophiles and created the art of [00:52:38] gaslighting the public right and then [00:52:41] then he passed the torch down to Edward [00:52:43] bernes who became the father of modern [00:52:45] propaganda who was his uh relative his [00:52:48] nephew and it hasn't stopped so this is [00:52:50] all they know all they know how what to [00:52:52] do how to do is lie and smear and so [00:52:55] when people catch up to that game you [00:52:57] look at them and you go okay well what's [00:52:58] your next move like what are you going [00:53:00] to say now like you've already said that [00:53:02] thing you've said they're Hitler you've [00:53:04] said they're a Nazi collaborator you've [00:53:06] said she's in a postpartum psychosis [00:53:08] people are still watching her content so [00:53:10] what's the next move so the next movie [00:53:12] comes Banning you know we're just going [00:53:14] to ban her from a country and pretend [00:53:15] she's a criminal we're going to ban you [00:53:17] know this person we're going to try to [00:53:18] squeeze in on the economics I think is [00:53:22] what their next move is but like I said [00:53:24] people are getting creative they're [00:53:25] getting around it and so um I'm I'm [00:53:28] enjoying watching the show I'm enjoying [00:53:31] watching them struggle with something [00:53:33] that gave them such great results in the [00:53:36] past that is is giving them nothing but [00:53:38] an echo chamber amongst themselves I am [00:53:41] presently loving the concept of the [00:53:43] staircase of [00:53:44] disbelief which is this idea that um if [00:53:48] that everyone has everyone has their own [00:53:50] staircase of disbelief effectively and [00:53:52] the and the great the most difficult [00:53:54] step is the first step and and it'll be [00:53:57] different for each person it might be [00:53:58] the it might be the the the JFK [00:54:01] assassination or it might be whatever or [00:54:04] or it could be 911 or it basically it's [00:54:08] something that you absorbed and took on [00:54:10] faith from the you know from The Entity [00:54:13] and you believed it and then for [00:54:15] whatever reason you step onto you you [00:54:19] take the step onto step one of the [00:54:20] staircase of disbelief and it you think [00:54:24] I really don't think that Lee har Oswald [00:54:26] was a lone shooter and killed you know [00:54:29] John F Kennedy for his own reasons and [00:54:31] having internalized one having stepped [00:54:34] on you're then that bit more likely to [00:54:36] step on to step two and everyone's going [00:54:39] to find their own and and and it goes [00:54:42] all you know and it's 100 steps high and [00:54:45] I wonder with for you um you know I mean [00:54:48] I I've I've seen your content you know [00:54:50] I've seen your content about Briget [00:54:51] macron I've seen various topics that [00:54:54] you've that you've confronted where is [00:54:57] for you what's going to what would be [00:54:59] the next step on your personal staircase [00:55:01] where you think I took that on faith for [00:55:04] all of my life but now I'm ready to [00:55:07] think do you know what I think there's [00:55:10] an alternative explanation for [00:55:12] that where you ready to go next I don't [00:55:14] know I mean for me I just have the kind [00:55:17] of the same process of determining what [00:55:19] the LIE is and you typically when you're [00:55:22] seeing an overreaction in the media that [00:55:24] is just name calling like you're not [00:55:26] disputing anything you're just screaming [00:55:28] like an authoritarian that always piques [00:55:31] my interest I like the bit mcon is a [00:55:33] perfect example like for that ladder [00:55:35] because I thought this is insanee of [00:55:36] course there's no truth to this like but [00:55:39] I was very kind of put off by the fact [00:55:40] that rather than just like disproving [00:55:43] that narrative they were just kind of [00:55:46] calling somebody a name and I was only [00:55:47] looking into this ridiculous story and [00:55:49] then I realized it was the most well [00:55:50] researched six part took three and a [00:55:53] half years for a journalist to uncover [00:55:55] get document [00:55:56] I'm going how dare you pretend that this [00:55:58] was like just some random guy on the [00:56:00] internet like [00:56:02] photoshopping and then when I came to [00:56:04] terms with that and realized that no one [00:56:06] would touch it I mean not even let's [00:56:07] start with just the small piece talking [00:56:08] about that latter of disbelief the one [00:56:10] thing they don't deny is that at the [00:56:13] very best you're talking about a case of [00:56:15] statutory rape okay like at the very [00:56:17] best like scenario for France they have [00:56:20] to acknowledge that they ignore it they [00:56:22] just ignore that part and won't even [00:56:23] talk about it and that makes you go okay [00:56:26] that's quite Sinister that the [00:56:27] mainstream media won't at least say yes [00:56:30] like Briget mccr even if I believe she's [00:56:32] a woman statutorily raped Emanuel [00:56:34] mccrone they won't say it and um and so [00:56:37] the more that you push you would think [00:56:39] easily just debunk this it's such an [00:56:40] easy where are the pictures of you 30 [00:56:42] years of your life I would love it if [00:56:44] someone tried to tell the public that I [00:56:45] lived as a man for 30 years I'd let them [00:56:47] write the whole piece and then you get [00:56:49] that other little tidbit where you find [00:56:50] out that as they were working on this [00:56:52] article the Secret Service detained them [00:56:55] took their phones this is just my Common [00:56:58] Sense Street smarts canis comes from [00:57:00] nothing doesn't pass the sniff why why [00:57:02] would you send the Secret Service out on [00:57:04] a journalist to intimidate them and [00:57:05] detain them so I one of the things that [00:57:08] I really say to people you can describe [00:57:10] it as a staircase uh really I I just [00:57:14] remind people that you have this thing [00:57:16] and it is your god-given intuition that [00:57:19] just tells you something's not right [00:57:20] here right like something's not right [00:57:22] this is such an easy thing to debunk why [00:57:24] are we just calling people names as [00:57:25] opposed to just sitting across from them [00:57:27] and debunking it because it's crazy and [00:57:29] stupid it actually is it's so stupid [00:57:31] that I would love for you to print that [00:57:33] article so I can then show you you know [00:57:35] eight 8,000 pictures of my life and [00:57:38] here's me pregnant and here's my husband [00:57:39] and here's me in high school as a [00:57:41] cheerleader and here's me like this is [00:57:42] what I would do if someone was like [00:57:43] cancel as a man I'd be like please [00:57:45] publish it please publish it so I can [00:57:47] just like go live and just show how [00:57:49] completely asinine this is It's the [00:57:51] exact opposite and so yeah I think there [00:57:54] is um for me just a a a very simple I [00:57:58] guess you just get quicker because I [00:57:59] understand the equation of mainstream [00:58:01] media it's a mathematical equation [00:58:03] that's hasn't been disrupted of how they [00:58:05] deal with something that they want to [00:58:07] cover as opposed to something that they [00:58:08] want to report on it it it's again it [00:58:12] because of the way in which a story like [00:58:14] that has been handled the way in which [00:58:17] it's not really been responded to it's [00:58:21] as though everyone's just waiting for it [00:58:22] to go away postpartum psychosis [00:58:26] just this let's just exactly it draws [00:58:30] attention to the there's increasingly [00:58:33] one gets a sense that the people at the [00:58:35] top of power that we can see you know [00:58:38] the visible people the heads of state [00:58:40] the the presidents the prime ministers [00:58:42] they increasingly look like an Odd [00:58:45] Squad you know and you look at you know [00:58:48] I I I listen to people you know you know [00:58:50] talk about the the reality of the people [00:58:52] in Congress in the United States of [00:58:54] America and it if you'd have to hunt [00:58:57] high and low to you know to find people [00:58:58] that were just living normal family life [00:59:02] MH you know the the the brait macron [00:59:05] story it it just it it nudges inquiring [00:59:09] minds in the direction of thinking there [00:59:12] there's a lot of [00:59:14] strangeness at this level of [00:59:16] society where really a person might be [00:59:19] expecting almost Paragons of virtue or [00:59:22] or at the very least people just living [00:59:23] regular family lives but people living [00:59:25] regular family lives at that at that [00:59:28] elevated level are few and far between [00:59:31] and our attention's been drawn to it [00:59:33] hasn't it it has and I think we're now [00:59:36] dealing with the fact that there are a [00:59:37] lot of perverts in power and then you [00:59:40] start to ask yourself rationally like [00:59:42] why would they want to have a pervert [00:59:43] EMP power like why would you want to [00:59:45] empower someone why would you want to [00:59:47] keep this secret isn't it easier to just [00:59:48] go find a regular guy and have them [00:59:50] become president and the answer is [00:59:52] because once you know someone's [00:59:54] perversions you control them that's the [00:59:56] obvious thing so if we if if we accept [00:59:58] that the people that are in power are [01:00:00] not actually in power and now we fully [01:00:02] accept that in America there's no one in [01:00:03] the entire world who legitimately [01:00:05] believes that Joe Biden is running the [01:00:06] country there's no one in the world that [01:00:08] believes that right so then you have to [01:00:10] come to terms with someone else is [01:00:11] running the country right so there was [01:00:13] someone else that was running the [01:00:14] country for four years as this man was [01:00:16] in full mental Decline and when you ask [01:00:19] that question then suddenly Big Bad Evil [01:00:21] Putin sitting across from Tucker Carlson [01:00:24] almost like laughing at Tucker when he [01:00:26] asks a question about like did you and [01:00:29] the president have a conversation and [01:00:31] he's like I don't deal with the [01:00:32] president I deal with the CIA right he's [01:00:33] like he's like this is what are you a [01:00:34] little [01:00:35] boy I don't care about who your [01:00:37] president is I'm I'm dealing with the [01:00:38] CIA and that's why they didn't want that [01:00:40] conversation to happen because they need [01:00:43] people to believe in the illusion that [01:00:44] like this person that is in power really [01:00:46] has power there's no power there's a [01:00:48] hand behind these people uh telling them [01:00:51] what to do telling them when to lock [01:00:53] down their citizens telling them what [01:00:55] they must do and they respond to it [01:00:57] because typically there is some [01:00:59] perverted Story I mean Joe Biden being [01:01:01] another example the media wouldn't touch [01:01:04] and then the FBI swooped in when [01:01:06] Ashley's Diaries his daughter her [01:01:09] Diaries were revealed to the public and [01:01:11] she said she had inappropriate showers [01:01:13] with her dad when she was a [01:01:15] child could you imagine if that was [01:01:17] Trump and that was ivanka's diary that [01:01:19] ought to have been problematic that [01:01:22] should have been problematic should have [01:01:23] been problematic yeah yes okay it's [01:01:26] disgusting so what are the implications [01:01:28] here same too for Hunter Biden's laptop [01:01:30] there was and and I shared this on my [01:01:32] Twitter and got my Twitter account [01:01:33] locked out because and this was before [01:01:35] Elon Musk was uh running Twitter uh [01:01:39] because there was a text chain which [01:01:41] still has not been reported about in the [01:01:42] media from that laptop in which Hunter [01:01:45] Biden is in a panic speaking to his [01:01:47] parents because his niece is saying like [01:01:51] that there was incest that there was [01:01:52] some sort of a sexual relationship [01:01:56] no reporting from the public on that [01:01:58] Hunter Biden's smoking crack on a laptop [01:02:01] and they all collude to pretend at first [01:02:03] that the laptop is Russian [01:02:05] disinformation and the entire [01:02:07] intelligence agencies like what 75 of [01:02:09] them signed a letter saying it was [01:02:11] Russian disinformation at the time and [01:02:13] then they put that family in power with [01:02:15] plausible incest and plausible [01:02:20] inappropriate you know alleged from her [01:02:23] own her own writing about inappropriate [01:02:25] showers with her dad that she says [01:02:27] sexualized her early on what does that [01:02:29] signal to you now you couple that with [01:02:31] the brijet mccon story you couple that [01:02:33] with what we know about Barack Obama [01:02:35] which The Daily Mail published you know [01:02:37] his college letters about his homosexual [01:02:39] Affairs and he's admitted that he was on [01:02:41] drugs what's going on here why don't we [01:02:44] just have like a regular person in power [01:02:47] what when when I was when I was asking [01:02:49] about you know you know where where what [01:02:51] might be the next step on the on the on [01:02:53] the staircase I I [01:02:58] the level the extent of the child [01:03:01] trafficking let's just let's just [01:03:03] bracket that enormous appalling thought [01:03:06] with child trafficking everything that [01:03:09] that [01:03:10] implies that the scale of that that's [01:03:14] already apparent to which the state [01:03:18] establishment and mainstream media Blind [01:03:21] Eye is being [01:03:22] turned I found I find impossible ignore [01:03:26] now the the reality that the trafficking [01:03:30] of children on a global scale absolutely [01:03:33] done by the government aing fact of life [01:03:36] and that it it may well [01:03:39] underpin everything else we're worried [01:03:41] about in terms of abuse of people and [01:03:43] abuse of [01:03:45] power yes that that is happening on a [01:03:48] global scale you are correct and so and [01:03:50] this is what I talk about where then you [01:03:52] have the media trying to tell you that [01:03:53] PA DAV the re the reason why're going [01:03:56] after him is cu they're concerned about [01:03:58] child sex trafficking and drug [01:04:00] trafficking and like the the tapate [01:04:02] brothers you know is because they're [01:04:03] worried about human trafficking this is [01:04:06] a joke when weighed against the fact [01:04:08] that the biggest drug traffickers the [01:04:10] biggest child sex human sex traffickers [01:04:12] in the entire world are your government [01:04:15] what do you think they're doing in all [01:04:16] these wars when these children just go [01:04:18] missing and it's it's it's so like I [01:04:21] said it's such a huge step for people to [01:04:23] recognize that and and like I said I'm [01:04:25] here to just give them a seed here and a [01:04:28] seed there like here is irrefutable [01:04:30] proof of this and don't you find that [01:04:32] strange and I know that inevitably they [01:04:33] will arrive at the step that you're [01:04:35] talking about where you realize could it [01:04:37] be this Sinister the answer is yes it is [01:04:39] that Sinister your government is [01:04:42] involved in [01:04:45] unspeakably evil organiz or [01:04:48] organizations like I even think half of [01:04:50] the ones that we're led to celebrate and [01:04:52] to back are operation like I I don't [01:04:56] even trust when you're donating money to [01:04:59] various organizations after a hurricane [01:05:01] I mean what happened in Haiti after that [01:05:03] hurricane where organizations came in [01:05:06] and children were [01:05:07] trafficked and I don't know I I I I know [01:05:11] for a fact the government was aware of [01:05:12] that and so I just I I just you know [01:05:16] it's difficult to Grapple with but like [01:05:19] I said The Awakening is upon us and I [01:05:21] think that many people are in fact [01:05:23] grappling with these facts today [01:05:26] i i find I don't know what to do with [01:05:28] that thought that's what because I'm you [01:05:31] know I'm freely admit I've emerged from [01:05:33] you know five Decades of naive trust in [01:05:37] authority and now four years five years [01:05:40] six years whatever I'm now [01:05:43] contemplating Global organized [01:05:45] trafficking of children which I can't [01:05:49] think of anything that would make uh a a [01:05:53] planet a civilization [01:05:56] harder to have faith in ever [01:05:58] again if in if in our lifetimes we've [01:06:02] been unaware [01:06:04] of an ignorance is no [01:06:07] defense Global trafficking abuse and [01:06:10] murder of the most vulnerable Among Us I [01:06:15] I don't know what to do with that [01:06:16] thought I I don't know where to go with [01:06:18] it because the information is out there [01:06:21] and yet the very organizations that that [01:06:24] we ought to be able to turn to to [01:06:25] confront that and do something about it [01:06:28] would appear to be the organizations [01:06:29] that are driving it I don't know what to [01:06:33] do with that thought well the first [01:06:35] thing you do is that you decide that [01:06:37] you're not going to be quiet about it [01:06:39] right you you you you decide that [01:06:43] neither cowardice or greed is going to [01:06:46] stop you from sharing that fact right [01:06:49] and then I think you once you know that [01:06:52] you can contribute that truth that truth [01:06:54] to the masses you also have to develop [01:06:58] your spiritual Faith like you really do [01:07:01] I'm telling you because I have such a [01:07:04] positive perspective and I know right [01:07:06] when I became Catholic a priest said to [01:07:09] me when I was on a pilgrimage the thing [01:07:11] about being Catholic is you're going to [01:07:12] be persecuted over and over and over [01:07:14] again but you're going to be happy and I [01:07:18] know exactly what he means now I just [01:07:19] know exactly what he means because I [01:07:21] have not faced more persecution than [01:07:23] when I started speaking out for children [01:07:26] when I started speaking out for basic [01:07:27] morality like it's not okay to murder [01:07:29] children it's not okay to sex traffic [01:07:32] it's not okay to support these groups [01:07:34] that are trying to convince you that it [01:07:36] is okay and yet I'm happy because I know [01:07:39] I have that Faith perspective I know [01:07:42] that in the end we win and right now [01:07:44] even though it doesn't feel like it we [01:07:45] are in the middle of of winning we are [01:07:48] we are in the middle of winning the [01:07:49] Panic is a signal that they've lost [01:07:52] control and so I just also want to tell [01:07:55] people like you take it's like at first [01:07:58] you take the red [01:07:59] pill then you take the black pill which [01:08:02] is like it's all doom and like how are [01:08:04] we going to move forward and then think [01:08:06] that's where I am I think that I think I [01:08:08] think I can still taste the black pill [01:08:10] mhm I went through that that was me I [01:08:12] would say last year and then I took the [01:08:14] white pill and I just know how this ends [01:08:17] and I know that we're in the middle of [01:08:18] seeing it and in in the end goodness [01:08:21] wins it's inevitable because goodness is [01:08:22] truth truth a lie cannot defeat the [01:08:25] truth in a [01:08:27] fight where did you get your white [01:08:29] pill so to speak well my husband uh and [01:08:34] that was a part of God's plan you know [01:08:35] my husband is incredibly faithful he was [01:08:39] raised in London and while he was I know [01:08:42] you guys say reading theology you read [01:08:44] theology right we say majoring in [01:08:47] theology he was drawn towards the [01:08:49] Catholic faith and converted and when we [01:08:52] got married he just got very deep into [01:08:55] faith and I was not a Catholic and I was [01:08:57] just kind of like why is this guy going [01:08:58] to church every day like he brought me [01:09:00] out of curiosity for a a piece of my [01:09:03] husband like you know there was like a [01:09:04] mystery happening there that I like why [01:09:06] are you so compelled uh and I then once [01:09:11] I historically and politically realized [01:09:13] that it's always been a holy war then I [01:09:16] wanted to I started thinking about how [01:09:18] I've always had this perspective of [01:09:19] Catholics that was ingrained in me and [01:09:21] that followed that same formula of [01:09:23] realizing well it's usually the thing [01:09:24] that they're insisting on that it's [01:09:26] probably the exact opposite and then I [01:09:28] spent some time at the bromton oratory [01:09:30] uh with priests asking every question [01:09:33] Playing devil's advocate like I guess [01:09:36] advocating for the devil ask well the [01:09:38] Catholics are this everything that you [01:09:39] expect and realized what a how amazingly [01:09:43] Rich how they had kept like I said the [01:09:46] light on for history the light on for [01:09:47] Christians for a very long time and I [01:09:50] just remember feeling as I was going [01:09:52] every day and spending hours to the [01:09:53] bromton orry A lightness I I I was so [01:09:56] loathed to leave England I had never [01:09:58] felt more clarity more excitement like [01:10:02] knowing finally why God gave me my [01:10:05] platform even that to me was a mystery [01:10:07] and I realized this is why I have a [01:10:08] platform like this is the big one and so [01:10:11] it's it's just been an amazing journey [01:10:14] and I owe it to my husband I owe it to [01:10:16] the priests I owe it to my strong family [01:10:19] unit and I know that in the end we're [01:10:22] going to win and I'm I'm even injecting [01:10:24] you right now with a little bit of of of [01:10:25] the white pill this is probably your [01:10:27] very earliest and it's going to be [01:10:29] tempting and then you'll be at the [01:10:30] bromton oratory and you're going to be [01:10:33] great Candice I that that conversation I [01:10:37] never really have a a direction in mind [01:10:39] but I you know that that definitely uh [01:10:42] meandered and and and we've ended up at [01:10:44] a destination I was not expecting but [01:10:46] that's always that's always special it's [01:10:48] always a treat so um I hope we can [01:10:51] continue uh having conversations but I [01:10:54] feel an hour and oh several minutes more [01:10:57] than an hour uh I've taken up more than [01:11:00] enough of your time thank you for being [01:11:02] so generous with your time and I will [01:11:04] look forward to when we meet again [01:11:05] Candace Owens thank you so much and [01:11:08] don't forget in the end we will win I [01:11:11] promise I'll hold you to that [01:11:16] [Music]
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