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[00:00:00] I voted to get these damn files released [00:00:03] and it's like a total 180. [00:00:05] >> Are you still talking about Jeffrey [00:00:07] Epstein? [00:00:08] >> He campaigned. He said, "Look, we're [00:00:09] going to release the files." And what [00:00:11] has been disappointing is we've for the [00:00:13] last 5 6 months have had to fight the [00:00:16] administration at every step of the way. [00:00:17] Which gets me to believe like who is [00:00:19] protecting these people? [00:00:21] >> So, I'm just going to I'm sorry. I'm [00:00:22] going to cut you off. I've been covering [00:00:23] this topic for a long time. I started [00:00:26] this with Ryan Montgomery [00:00:28] >> about 2 years ago. [00:00:29] >> I know you did. [00:00:30] >> Then I brought on Tim Tibo. We're [00:00:32] bringing on your buddy Schle who's going [00:00:34] after Roblox. [00:00:36] >> I know you're the first and only [00:00:39] congressman to actually speak out [00:00:40] against Roblox. At least according to [00:00:42] Schlepp's attorney. [00:00:44] >> Yeah. [00:00:44] >> And you know it's I just interviewed [00:00:47] Elizabeth Phillips. Are you familiar [00:00:49] with this camp? [00:00:50] >> I'm not. [00:00:51] >> It's the biggest Christian camp [00:00:53] >> in the [ __ ] world. And they are they [00:00:56] they I brought Elizabeth Phillips on and [00:00:59] she talks about how they've been [00:01:00] molesting thousands of kids for years [00:01:04] and putting them under NDA after a [00:01:06] settlement so that they can never as a [00:01:09] kid so that they can never come out and [00:01:11] talk about their sexual abuse at [ __ ] [00:01:14] Camp Canook. [00:01:15] >> It's sick, [00:01:15] >> you know? And now we have I mean I [00:01:18] [ __ ] voted for this [ __ ] I voted to [00:01:21] get these damn files released and it's [00:01:23] like a total 180 just happened. [00:01:26] >> Well, I don't I don't know if you had [00:01:27] the president on or the vice president [00:01:29] on on your show, but they had [00:01:31] >> both of them on. [00:01:31] >> They campaigned on this, right? And so [00:01:33] when Massie and I originally did the [00:01:35] bill, we thought, okay, Trump should be [00:01:38] for this cuz he campaigned. He said, [00:01:40] look, we're going to release the files. [00:01:42] Here's the truth of the matter. No one [00:01:45] cared about this issue since the 1990s. [00:01:48] It's not like a Donald Trump thing. [00:01:50] Biden, we didn't release the files under [00:01:52] Biden. This thing was going on uh since [00:01:55] the 2000s. In 1996, Maria launched a [00:01:59] complaint with the FBI. And she was [00:02:02] told, "We're not going to do anything." [00:02:05] By the way, you talk to some of the [00:02:06] other survivors, they were told, "Don't [00:02:07] talk to the New York police. Epstein is [00:02:10] too connected." for 30 years until some [00:02:13] of the documents just came out because [00:02:14] of Massie in my bill. Maria was called a [00:02:16] liar by everyone in power and said, "Oh, [00:02:19] she never filed a complaint with the [00:02:20] FBI." So when Trump said he wants to [00:02:23] release the files, he was right. When he [00:02:26] said that the system is corrupt, [00:02:27] protecting rich and powerful people, he [00:02:30] was right. And we gave him the benefit [00:02:33] of the doubt. Then Pam Bondi comes and [00:02:35] says, "Oh, there's no there are no more [00:02:37] files." I mean, come on. That's when [00:02:39] Massie and I do this bill and we [00:02:42] initially thought maybe Trump would [00:02:44] support it because his own attorney [00:02:45] general is betraying his promise and [00:02:48] what has been disappointing is we've for [00:02:50] the last five six months have had to [00:02:52] fight the administration at every step [00:02:54] of the way which gets me to believe like [00:02:56] who is protecting these people? I I just [00:02:59] I don't understand. [00:03:01] I I cannot I got really [ __ ] pissed [00:03:04] off at the Democrat party because the [00:03:06] maps the minor attracted persons [ __ ] [00:03:10] before Trump came into office. We talked [00:03:12] about it all the time. [00:03:13] >> Now I I Why are we protecting Why is the [00:03:18] White House protecting pedophiles? Why [00:03:20] is the White House protecting [00:03:22] pedophiles? I just don't understand it, [00:03:25] Ro. I can't [ __ ] get it through my [00:03:27] head why we would protect pedophiles. [00:03:29] The other thing is this country has the [00:03:32] biggest [ __ ] problem with sex [00:03:34] exploitation and sex trafficking in the [00:03:36] world. We can talk about [ __ ] [00:03:38] Venezuela and Mexico and Ukraine and [00:03:40] Russia and [ __ ] China and waste fraud [00:03:42] and abuse and [ __ ] liberals this and [00:03:44] Democrats this and Republicans and we [00:03:47] have a pedophile problem. We have a [00:03:49] [ __ ] pedophile problem in this [00:03:51] country and nobody's doing anything [00:03:53] about it in government except you and [00:03:57] Thomas Massie. What the [ __ ] is going [00:03:59] on? [00:04:01] >> You know how I know this? Cuz [00:04:03] >> is everybody in government a [ __ ] [00:04:05] pedophile now? What the [ __ ] is [00:04:07] happening? [00:04:07] >> Well, I don't understand who they're [00:04:09] trying to protect cuz I keep saying it's [00:04:10] not about Trump. There's there's so many [00:04:13] people, Democrats, Republicans, who were [00:04:15] involved in all of this. Just release [00:04:17] the files. And we know, they say, "How [00:04:20] do you know, Ro, that there are other [00:04:21] men involved?" First of all, just use [00:04:23] your common sense. There, 1200 plus [00:04:25] survivors. You think one guy raped all [00:04:28] of them? You think one guy abused all of [00:04:29] them? Of course not. There was a system [00:04:32] of powerful rich men who either [00:04:35] trafficked in these girls or abused them [00:04:37] or showed up to Epstein's rape island. [00:04:40] The survivors haven't told me the [00:04:42] specific names, but what they have told [00:04:43] me with their lawyers is the type of [00:04:46] people who were involved. a uh Wall [00:04:49] Street banker, a powerful politician, [00:04:53] and they've said that they sat through [00:04:55] interviews with the FBI. They're called [00:04:57] 302 statements, and they told the names [00:05:00] on those 302 statements. So, release the [00:05:03] 302 statements. They're not doing that. [00:05:05] Even though the law explicitly calls for [00:05:08] releasing those statements, we'll know [00:05:09] who these powerful men are. Then there [00:05:11] was a prosecution memo. You know, [00:05:13] originally there were 60 counts against [00:05:16] Epstein in supposed to be in Florida. [00:05:18] They prosecuted him on two counts. [00:05:21] There's a memo which explains why there [00:05:23] should have been 60 counts, including [00:05:25] ties with foreign countries, including [00:05:27] ties with people uh who were being who [00:05:30] were financing him, including [00:05:32] allegations of a honeypot uh system [00:05:35] where he was trying to entrap basically [00:05:36] powerful men. and they're not releasing [00:05:39] the memo even though the law explicitly [00:05:42] says we want to know all the decisions [00:05:44] of why he was charged or not charged. [00:05:47] This is I mean it's a it's they're [00:05:48] covering it up and the people are asking [00:05:51] why who are the powerful forces that [00:05:54] have such influence that they're [00:05:56] covering this up every every citizen I [00:06:00] talk to here see say on social anything [00:06:04] once those files released was it every [00:06:07] single person in Congress that voted for [00:06:09] it to release them and was there every [00:06:11] single person in the Senate except one [00:06:14] person [00:06:15] >> everyone in the house except one [00:06:16] >> everyone in the House except [00:06:18] >> and every senator and but I got to give [00:06:20] credit not just to Massiey's courage [00:06:23] because he's got billionaires funding [00:06:24] against him and the billionaires don't [00:06:26] like me these days either. I mean you so [00:06:28] you you go after the Epstein class, you [00:06:29] make a lot of enemies, you know, look at [00:06:31] my ex uh and you see the people who go [00:06:34] after Massie and me, but it wasn't just [00:06:36] Massie uh and me. Marjorie Taylor Green, [00:06:39] Lauren Boowbert, and Nancy Mace stuck [00:06:42] their neck out to sign a discharge [00:06:45] petition that the two of us had to force [00:06:48] a vote on it. They got bullied by the [00:06:50] White House. They got bullied by the [00:06:51] speaker. They got threatened. Their [00:06:53] political careers were threatened. [00:06:55] Marjorie Taylor Green lost her seat. [00:06:56] Gave up her seat in Congress over this. [00:06:59] >> Yeah. Didn't didn't the president tell [00:07:02] her what did he tell her? Oh, he he he [00:07:05] told he told her that uh she's betraying [00:07:10] him. Look, Marjorie Taylor Green was for [00:07:12] Donald Trump when he came down the [00:07:13] escalator. She was with Donald Trump [00:07:16] when he ran in 2020 and lost. She was [00:07:19] with Donald Trump when he said the [00:07:20] election was stolen. I to disagree with [00:07:22] her, but she was out there defending [00:07:23] him. She was with Donald Trump in 2024 [00:07:26] when Dantis and others were talking to [00:07:28] about running against him. No one had [00:07:30] been more loyal to to Donald Trump. And [00:07:33] she when she joined the petition, she [00:07:35] says, "Ro, I'm gonna explain to Trump [00:07:37] that he actually can be a hero. He's [00:07:39] going to come on board. I'm telling you, [00:07:41] he's going to come on board." She said [00:07:43] Trump says to him, "Well, you're hurting [00:07:45] some of my friends. You're this is not [00:07:46] the right thing. You're hurting people." [00:07:48] How about hurting the survivors? How [00:07:50] about hurting the women? [00:07:51] >> Yeah. How about the [ __ ] kids? [00:07:53] >> It's girls. [00:07:54] >> Kids hurting your friends, you know, [00:07:56] >> gives a [ __ ] about your [ __ ] friends. [00:07:58] We give a [ __ ] about kids. [00:08:00] >> And these are these are working class [00:08:02] girls. I wish people could see their [00:08:04] stories and how they were exploited. [00:08:06] It's a class issue. Rich, powerful [00:08:08] people connected to politicians doing [00:08:11] figuring out, well, who's vulnerable, [00:08:13] who doesn't have a father, who doesn't [00:08:15] have a lot of money, you know, uh how do [00:08:18] we get that girl uh to start with giving [00:08:20] us massages? You know what the saddest [00:08:22] thing that I heard from a survivor? They [00:08:25] were saying that the survivors are [00:08:27] guilty because the survivors were [00:08:28] actually recruiters of aiding and [00:08:31] emedding uh other girls uh in getting [00:08:34] raped or getting abused. So, one of the [00:08:36] survivors says, "Yeah, I did that. You [00:08:37] know why I did that? Cuz I was so afraid [00:08:40] that I was going to be abused that I [00:08:42] went and I got other junior high girls [00:08:45] and other high school girls to take my [00:08:47] place cuz I didn't want to be abused." [00:08:48] >> Junior high girls. [00:08:50] >> Junior high girls. [00:08:51] >> Junior [clears throat] high girls. and [00:08:52] we can't release the files. Be before we [00:08:54] move on and and we just both get pissed [00:08:57] off side of what we're doing. I just [00:09:00] what we talked about Ryan Montgomery, [00:09:04] Tim Tibo, I told you about Elizabeth [00:09:06] Phillips who I just interviewed bringing [00:09:08] on slept. I mean, it's such a problem in [00:09:10] this country. What I'm I'm just curious [00:09:13] what what can parents do right now? Not [00:09:17] call their congressman, not call their [00:09:20] senator. that shit's not working. What [00:09:23] can people do right now on their own to [00:09:26] protect their kids? [00:09:29] One, they need to know how widespread [00:09:31] this is. You know how it's widespread? I [00:09:33] I realize this cuz since I've been [00:09:35] affiliated with Epstein, I get stopped [00:09:37] on an airport. People will say, "Hey, [00:09:40] Congressman, can I tell you about what [00:09:41] happened to me?" [00:09:43] I get I had I've known people for 30 [00:09:46] years and they said, "You know, Ro, [00:09:49] something happened. One person told me, [00:09:50] you know, when I was 4 to 8 years old, [00:09:53] my uh babysitter's boyfriend abused me [00:09:58] and I never told my mom or my dad cuz my [00:10:02] dad would have killed the guy and my mom [00:10:04] would have totally lost it. So, I've [00:10:06] held this with me. And she said to me, [00:10:08] "Ro, it's like a box. You put it in a [00:10:11] box and you put it away, but it comes [00:10:13] back at any moment." And the amount of [00:10:17] people who have faced this, I'm not [00:10:18] saying all from Epstein obviously just [00:10:20] faced this in this country is [00:10:22] extraordinary and it's sickening. It's a [00:10:25] s it's a national crisis. First thing we [00:10:27] need to realize is we've got a moral [00:10:29] crisis in this country. [00:10:31] >> Second thing is when you're having your [00:10:33] kids go to a sleepover, go to a sports [00:10:37] game, go on a field trip, be paranoid. I [00:10:41] mean, I don't want to scare folks, but [00:10:42] when you have them on a uh gaming site, [00:10:45] when you have them on the internet, they [00:10:47] need to be paranoid. The parents need to [00:10:49] understand that this is not something [00:10:52] that happens uh in a remote part of the [00:10:55] country. This could happen to your kids. [00:10:58] >> But the main reason I want these Epstein [00:11:00] files out is because it'll force a [00:11:02] reckoning in this country. people are it [00:11:03] it'll be the biggest scandal I [00:11:05] fundamentally believe in a 100 years [00:11:06] because it's going to expose what's how [00:11:08] sick our elite culture is where for [00:11:11] their own gratification they think that [00:11:13] they can just abuse these girls and [00:11:15] nothing will happen and that kind of [00:11:18] culture has permeated uh across the [00:11:21] nation they need to be shamed they need [00:11:23] to be held accountable [00:11:25] >> you know John there buildings named [00:11:27] after some of these people and these [00:11:29] survivors go around and they're seeing [00:11:30] these people celebrated in the financial [00:11:33] world in the political world honored and [00:11:37] they've committed the most heinous act. [00:11:38] It's like we may not agree on much. I [00:11:41] think most Americans agree you don't [00:11:42] rape American girls. Like that's that's [00:11:44] the the line you don't cross. [00:11:46] >> No matter where you're watching Shawn [00:11:48] Ryan show from. If you get anything out [00:11:50] of this, please like, comment, [00:11:52] subscribe, and most importantly, share [00:11:55] this everywhere you possibly can. And if [00:11:59] you're feeling extra generous, please [00:12:01] leave us a review on Apple and Spotify [00:12:04] podcasts.