James Fishback on DeSantis’s Attack on Free Speech, Randy Fine’s Bloodlust, & America Last Globalism

[00:00:04] So, you're running for governor of [00:00:06] Florida. Why are you doing that? I'm [00:00:08] doing it because I love my state. I'm a [00:00:10] fourth generation Flityian. And I got to [00:00:12] tell you, Tucker, it's really hard to be [00:00:14] an American in America these days. It's [00:00:16] really hard for Flidians who quite [00:00:17] literally put this state on the map. [00:00:20] They're now being forced out of the [00:00:21] state because they can't afford to live [00:00:22] here anymore. All while illegal [00:00:25] immigrants still get the free stuff from [00:00:26] the Biden years. all while H-1Bs still [00:00:28] come into our state and take jobs that [00:00:31] belong to Americans here in Florida. And [00:00:33] then I think the last straw was this [00:00:34] idea of Washington DC negotiating a [00:00:37] trade deal with China and then 600,000 [00:00:39] foreign students are going to come to [00:00:40] our universities, maybe a third of them [00:00:42] to Florida colleges where they're [00:00:44] taxpayer funded universities are going [00:00:46] to have to give up their seats from [00:00:47] Florida kids from Charlotte County or [00:00:49] Lee County to kids from Shanghai and [00:00:52] Beijing. It didn't make any sense. And [00:00:54] so I'm running cuz I'm the only [00:00:56] >> That's literally true. [00:00:57] >> Literally, that's part of the current [00:00:59] framework, this bilateral framework [00:01:01] between the US and China right now is [00:01:02] the DC is now as a concession to the [00:01:05] Chinese in this tariff war that we're [00:01:07] going to have to accept 600,000 Chinese [00:01:09] foreign students at our schools. [00:01:12] >> And you think you're getting 200,000 in [00:01:14] Florida? [00:01:14] >> We could get 200,000 here in Florida [00:01:16] >> and they would go to state. That's [00:01:19] crazy. [00:01:19] >> So University of Florida, Florida State, [00:01:21] UCF, USF. Now, I think it's easy to get [00:01:24] lost in all those numbers, but just take [00:01:26] one kid from a small fishing village in [00:01:28] Florida and say, "Hold on. Your ability [00:01:31] to go to a horiculture program at the [00:01:33] University of Florida has now been put [00:01:35] on pause. Your entire life has been [00:01:37] shelved because we need to have a grand [00:01:40] negotiating strategy with China and [00:01:42] tariffs and the AI arms race. It's [00:01:44] destroying lives here in Florida." It's [00:01:45] just the latest analogy of we're losing [00:01:48] sight of what the America First movement [00:01:50] is. [00:01:50] >> So, well, that's for sure. So that means [00:01:52] I mean I guess this is all obvious but I [00:01:54] haven't talked it through or really [00:01:55] thought it through. So that would mean [00:01:56] that there's no preference given to the [00:01:58] American born whose family's been paying [00:02:00] taxes to support the school. And I [00:02:02] should say in Florida the best schools [00:02:03] in Florida are public universities. [00:02:04] >> That's right. It's the largest and the [00:02:05] best. [00:02:06] >> Right. So University of Florida number [00:02:08] one. I I think [00:02:09] >> I don't want to get in trouble but I [00:02:11] mean just like yes hardest to get into. [00:02:13] So it's not like they're all going to go [00:02:14] to some boutique liberal arts college [00:02:17] and pay 100 grand a year to Mbury or [00:02:20] something. They're going to be taking [00:02:21] spots at the public universities that [00:02:23] are there to serve the children of [00:02:25] taxpayers of Florida. [00:02:26] >> That's exactly right. [00:02:27] >> Who will not receive preference over [00:02:28] them. [00:02:29] >> Correct. In fact, will be inferior to [00:02:31] them in a sense because when you have [00:02:33] this DC mandate coming down that says, [00:02:35] "Hey, because of our grand strategy with [00:02:37] China, because the US China, the Sino US [00:02:40] relationship is on the line, wink wink, [00:02:42] nod nod, in order to maintain dant with [00:02:45] Beijing and Xi Jinping, we need this kid [00:02:48] to get in." And it's not going to ever [00:02:49] be a direct order, but it's going to be [00:02:51] implied in the zeitgeist that you know [00:02:52] those pesky Americans, you know, the [00:02:54] ones that paid to build this university. [00:02:56] >> Yes, they deserve and forget this idea [00:02:59] of fairness and who deserves what. Just [00:03:02] objectively speaking, Florida kids who [00:03:04] grew up here, know the state best, when [00:03:06] they graduate, they'll stay in this [00:03:08] state. They'll build businesses here. [00:03:10] They'll hunt here. They'll raise [00:03:12] families here. And when you deny them [00:03:13] that ability to do all of that, then [00:03:15] what's the point? [00:03:18] >> That is a very uh distressing thing. Um [00:03:23] and that's happening. [00:03:24] >> It's happening. What has been the [00:03:26] posture of state government? Like what's [00:03:27] the governor's office say about that? [00:03:29] >> There's been nothing so far. I think [00:03:31] Governor Santis has been a great [00:03:32] governor, especially during CO, after [00:03:34] CO, standing up to a indoctrination in [00:03:37] our schools, which maybe is the only [00:03:38] silver lining from CO is all the parents [00:03:40] actually knew what was going on in the [00:03:41] classroom. the white guilt lessons, you [00:03:43] know, to the white kids. We don't want [00:03:45] the teachers telling the white kids to [00:03:46] apologize. And we don't want the [00:03:47] teachers also telling the black kids [00:03:49] that there's something somehow wrong [00:03:50] with them and they're systemically [00:03:51] oppressed and they can never make it. [00:03:53] You know, my posture on all of this is I [00:03:55] think as conservatives, we have to stop [00:03:57] playing defense, stop wagging the finger [00:03:58] at things we don't like and start [00:04:00] actually having concrete falsifiable [00:04:03] solutions. So, so this issue of China, [00:04:05] here's my solution. Very simple. On day [00:04:06] one, my first executive order as [00:04:08] governor next January is to raise [00:04:10] tuition on all foreign students to $1 [00:04:13] million a year. So, Tucker, when they [00:04:16] can't pay, they're out and our kids are [00:04:18] back in their destinies, their lives [00:04:20] restored at our great colleges. [00:04:23] And the legislature can you can do that [00:04:25] by executive order. [00:04:26] >> Your executive order. Oo, that's clever. [00:04:29] Um, yeah, because foreign students pay [00:04:31] full freight typically, right? And [00:04:33] unless you're an illegal alien in which [00:04:34] it's subsidized, but but rich foreigners [00:04:37] send their kids to school in America and [00:04:38] displace Americans. [00:04:40] >> Correct. [00:04:41] >> Well, I should say they pay full freight [00:04:42] relative in that moment to what the [00:04:45] tuition is relative to the instate [00:04:46] student. But think about the instate [00:04:48] student 18 years old, probably worked a [00:04:50] job in Florida, right? [00:04:51] >> Lived their whole life. Their parents [00:04:53] lived their whole life there possibly. [00:04:54] So all of those taxes that they paid [00:04:56] over their 18 years, their parents' 45 [00:04:58] years, collectively built that [00:05:00] university, funded dormitories, [00:05:02] janitors, professors, the the chief DEI [00:05:05] officer, right? All of that was funded. [00:05:08] >> And so it is full freight in an [00:05:10] instantaneous sense, but if you take a [00:05:12] holistic view, the kid who just got here [00:05:14] from Shenzhen, who doesn't know what a [00:05:17] Florida orange juice, right? None of [00:05:19] that can't possibly both in an economic [00:05:22] sense but I think [00:05:23] >> I mean not to sound gay but in a [00:05:25] spiritual sense you know like in a [00:05:27] spiritual sense does not represent our [00:05:29] state and our heritage. [00:05:30] >> It's the opposite of gay actually. Uh no [00:05:33] I agree with you absolutely and [00:05:35] completely and that's by the way how a [00:05:36] civilization forms its culture is [00:05:38] through education right and you can't [00:05:40] educate the world. That's not your job. [00:05:42] And in fact it's counterproductive [00:05:43] >> to having a distinct culture. So that's [00:05:47] what inspired you to get in? [00:05:49] >> I think that was the last straw to tell [00:05:50] you the truth because I met with a lot [00:05:51] of college students in my life before [00:05:54] this, which is to say four and a half [00:05:55] weeks ago. [00:05:57] I I've been running an investment firm [00:05:59] called Aoria that I actually launched at [00:06:00] all places at Mara Lago last December [00:06:02] 2024. Kevin Roberts was there, President [00:06:05] Trump, Kathy Wood. And the firm was [00:06:08] based on this idea that instead of [00:06:10] channeling money into companies that [00:06:11] hate America, why don't we channel money [00:06:13] into companies that unapologetically [00:06:15] stand for American values, like [00:06:17] meritocracy, like colorblindness? And so [00:06:19] in 2025, I'm proud to say we channeled [00:06:21] up to $40 million of investor capital in [00:06:24] companies that were doing the crazy [00:06:25] thing of not hiring on race and gender [00:06:27] and hiring on skill and merit. And my my [00:06:31] company, Azoria, it's actually it's ETF [00:06:34] got delisted by our board of trustees. [00:06:36] They're supposed to be independent, but [00:06:38] it got delisted because we submitted an [00:06:40] amendment to them saying we wanted to [00:06:41] now exclude companies that abuse the [00:06:43] H-1B program. We said, "Look, this [00:06:45] abuse, it is systematic. It is systemic. [00:06:47] It's hurting American workers." And we [00:06:49] gave them a five-page research paper [00:06:51] that said it's actually hurting the [00:06:52] bottom line of these companies because [00:06:54] they're bringing in cheap foreign slave [00:06:56] labor that doesn't actually add to the [00:06:58] synergy of the company. it leads to [00:06:59] higher attrition, it breaks down [00:07:01] productivity, etc. And their response [00:07:03] was, "You're a racist." And they [00:07:06] delisted our fund. And who have this? [00:07:09] >> The board of trustees of the title [00:07:10] financial group in October, just 9 days [00:07:14] after saying, "Hey, here's our formal [00:07:15] amendment to to broaden the scope of our [00:07:17] investment fund to not just exclude [00:07:19] companies that are doing the DEI stuff, [00:07:21] but actually exclude companies that are [00:07:23] doing something that's far more [00:07:23] insidious, which is you're a white guy. [00:07:26] No, you don't get a job. We want an [00:07:28] Indian guy to do it for half the price, [00:07:29] >> right? And and ethnic cartels form [00:07:31] within companies that hire within the [00:07:33] ethnicity. It's the opposite of what [00:07:35] this country promises, [00:07:36] >> right? And they and they gaslight us and [00:07:38] say all the white men hiring officers [00:07:39] are only hiring white men. Absolutely [00:07:41] not. [00:07:42] >> That's a lie. [00:07:42] >> It's not a single HR manager. [00:07:44] >> This was a white male country that led [00:07:45] in the rest of the world. So clearly we [00:07:46] know that's not true. [00:07:47] >> Clearly. Yeah. And and this it's all [00:07:49] based on the slanderous lie of systemic [00:07:52] racism. The only systemic racism in [00:07:54] America is against white Christian men. [00:07:56] I'm aware that's interesting and it's [00:07:59] interesting to hear you say that as a [00:08:00] gubernatorial candidate because even [00:08:02] like six months ago hearing that from a [00:08:05] aspiring politician would have been [00:08:06] totally shocking and it does seem like [00:08:09] maybe because of you and people like you [00:08:11] saying it more just like who could [00:08:13] disagree with that? [00:08:14] >> Yeah, I I think for me I was in a small [00:08:17] town called Frost Proof in southern Pulk [00:08:19] County. Your viewers may know Grady Jud. [00:08:20] He's the most famous sheriff here in [00:08:22] Florida. [00:08:22] >> I know Grady Jud. Yeah. And so I was [00:08:23] down in Frost Proof and this was a [00:08:26] community that was teeming with life [00:08:27] just 15 20 years ago. The peak of our [00:08:29] citrus industry was the 2005 harvest. [00:08:32] 230 million boxes of citrus. This last [00:08:35] season only 14 million. And this was [00:08:37] predominantly a white man's industry. [00:08:40] And when I went there and I saw what [00:08:43] used to be a small movie theater, now a [00:08:45] Dollar General, what used to be a [00:08:46] family-owned grocery store, now some [00:08:49] weird perverted liquor store, when I see [00:08:51] entire towns across my state, whether [00:08:53] it's Frost Proof, Pokei, Belglade, Canal [00:08:55] Point, More Haven, utterly hollowed out. [00:08:58] And the primary victims of what is [00:09:01] effectively this America globalism that [00:09:03] has prioritized other nations and other [00:09:05] corporations interest over our own [00:09:07] people. It really does hit hard that we [00:09:10] have been sold a bag of goods and the [00:09:12] the biggest victims in all of it are [00:09:14] actually predominantly white men to be [00:09:16] completely honest. I mean the the [00:09:17] victimhood, not to be a victim, but the [00:09:19] victimhood is very farreaching. But if [00:09:22] you want to flip the cast system over, [00:09:24] you'd be hardressed to find someone more [00:09:26] oppressed in my state right now than a [00:09:29] rural white Christian man who relied on [00:09:31] cattle, on citrus, on manufacturing. My [00:09:34] own dad was a tree trimmer for 20 years. [00:09:37] The devastating Haitian earthquake [00:09:39] happened in January of 2010. And then it [00:09:41] was this brilliant idea from a guy named [00:09:43] Barack Hussein Obama to let a hundred [00:09:45] Haitians who were here illegally just [00:09:47] stay here and get work authorization. [00:09:48] Now, of course, they can't become SAT [00:09:50] tutors. 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[00:11:14] I can see why that radicalized you. It [00:11:16] radicalizes me just hearing it. Um, what [00:11:18] happened to citrus in Florida? Like the [00:11:20] groves have been torn up. It's It's [00:11:22] gone. It's dead. [00:11:22] >> It's dead. Greening. [00:11:24] >> I can't get a straight answer on that. [00:11:26] Exactly. USDA is part of it. trade deals [00:11:30] are part of it. Do you have any idea [00:11:31] what happened? [00:11:32] >> So it's not not to sound vapid, but it [00:11:35] is a multiaceted issue. The proximate [00:11:38] cause was greening that really hit 06 07 [00:11:41] and just knocked citrus out. [00:11:43] >> I think [00:11:44] >> greening [00:11:45] >> the this quite coincidentally from China [00:11:49] of all places, not Wuhan this time, [00:11:52] right? But [00:11:54] this infestation [00:11:56] that led to the premature [00:11:59] falling of fruit of citrus fruit, [00:12:01] whether it's Donaldson or orange, [00:12:02] tangela, whatever, off these trees. And [00:12:04] you can't sell that fruit if it falls [00:12:06] off early. [00:12:08] >> And so that's obviously the approximate [00:12:10] cause. And I think it's again, it's like [00:12:12] most conservatives. I'm not going to sit [00:12:13] here, I mean, and just blame China for [00:12:15] everything. I think the ultimate [00:12:17] systemic cause is Democrats and dare I [00:12:20] say Republicans in Tallahassee just [00:12:21] stopped caring. [00:12:22] >> Yeah. [00:12:23] >> I mean, look, this destroyed an entire [00:12:26] industry. 220 million down to 14 million [00:12:30] boxes. Entire communities decimated. Not [00:12:32] just Citrus, but all the little mom and [00:12:35] pop businesses, the diner, the [00:12:36] family-owned grocery store, the little [00:12:38] movie theater down. [00:12:39] >> Citrus was Florida. It was on the [00:12:40] license plate. [00:12:41] >> It still is. Well, there's nothing [00:12:42] something else on license plate now. as [00:12:43] I think you know it's a foreign flag. Um [00:12:45] I've also said as Florida governor [00:12:46] there's going to be no foreign flags [00:12:48] flown on our government buildings or on [00:12:49] our state license. [00:12:50] >> Want to ask you about that. How did [00:12:51] another country's flag wind up on your [00:12:53] license plate? But I'll ask you in a [00:12:54] second. So but but citrus was at the [00:12:57] very center of Florida's economy and its [00:12:59] culture for 100 years. [00:13:01] >> Was 100%. And I grew up in in Broward [00:13:03] County which is obviously a very urban [00:13:04] place now. But where I grew up in Davy [00:13:06] in West Broward near the Everglades, we [00:13:08] had citrus groves out there when I was a [00:13:10] kid. And so you could quite literally go [00:13:11] out to like a flamingo gardens and you [00:13:14] could smell you could smell that orange [00:13:17] scent on a crisp [00:13:19] >> day and it is perhaps the sickest [00:13:23] analogy that yes in a proximate sense [00:13:26] China caused this but much like co [00:13:29] Tucker it wasn't China it was the [00:13:32] government apathy indifference and an [00:13:34] intentional sabotage of our country [00:13:37] against its own people. [00:13:38] >> So true. Look, I'm not going to sit here [00:13:39] and blame Xi Jinping. He's doing what he [00:13:41] thinks is best for his country. If that [00:13:42] means screwing us over, I guess that's [00:13:44] it. But I can't sit here and say, look, [00:13:46] the Chinese are guilty of the fentanyl [00:13:48] crisis. These precursors come from [00:13:50] interior of China, get shipped to [00:13:52] Mexico, get pressed into fentanyl pills, [00:13:54] and sent across the southern border. But [00:13:56] really, it is our leaders that have the [00:13:58] ultimate responsibility. They're the [00:13:59] last line of defense. So, I think as [00:14:01] Republicans, we need to grow up and stop [00:14:04] blaming all of our problems and [00:14:05] embracing this leftwing victimhood [00:14:07] culture. And so, look, China this, China [00:14:09] that. Here's my solution as Florida [00:14:11] governor. Any scientist in the world who [00:14:14] wants to develop, a strand of citrus [00:14:18] that is impervious to greening, we're [00:14:22] going to pay you $1 billion cash. [00:14:26] If you can prove, and we'll grow it and [00:14:28] we'll do it for 18 months. If you take [00:14:30] the best scientist in the world, and [00:14:32] they may be in Iran of all places, it [00:14:34] doesn't matter. If there's a scientist [00:14:35] or a group of scientists in the world [00:14:37] who want to step up and actually solve a [00:14:38] problem that has torn aunder entire [00:14:41] communities that's unemployed men and [00:14:43] women hollowed out entire towns across [00:14:45] my state, we're going to pay you a [00:14:47] billion dollars because what that [00:14:48] industry represented that would merely [00:14:50] be an investment in bringing back the [00:14:53] number one thing that put my state on [00:14:55] the map. [00:14:56] >> No, that is absolutely that is [00:14:57] absolutely right. And [00:15:00] they tore up the groves that took, you [00:15:03] know, years. Takes years for an orange [00:15:05] tree to go from seedling to fruit [00:15:06] bearing. And they tore them up. They [00:15:08] tore them out of the ground. They burned [00:15:09] them. [00:15:10] >> Correct. [00:15:10] >> It's really uh a metaphor for so for so [00:15:13] much. [00:15:14] >> So I want to ask about the foreign flag [00:15:15] thing. Um I always admired Dantis [00:15:18] certainly during co I thought he was [00:15:20] just a a remarkable leader. Interviewed [00:15:22] him many times. I know him um and his [00:15:25] wife and it was the foreign policy stuff [00:15:29] that made me wonder like what is this [00:15:31] and how controlled is he by Ken Griffin [00:15:34] and the rest of his donors and then he [00:15:36] had this moment where he signed a hate [00:15:38] speech law [00:15:40] >> out of the country he flew to a foreign [00:15:42] country Israel to sign a hate speech law [00:15:44] for Florida and I thought well this is [00:15:47] obviously unconstitutional it's immoral [00:15:49] but it's also part of an elaborate [00:15:50] humiliation ritual where you have to [00:15:52] not just like enslave your own people [00:15:54] with a hate speech law, which that is [00:15:56] slavery, but you have to go kiss someone [00:15:58] else's wall to show your obedience. And [00:15:59] I was like, I'm out. Like, how did that [00:16:01] happen? [00:16:03] >> Well, it started, like most things, [00:16:04] terrible things start here in Florida [00:16:05] with Randy Fine. [00:16:07] >> Randy Fine. [00:16:08] >> Quite literally. [00:16:08] >> The genocide guy. [00:16:09] >> Yeah, the genocide guy. The star of Away [00:16:11] Gaza kids guy. [00:16:13] >> I can't even believe he's real. So, what [00:16:15] how what did he have to do with He [00:16:16] introduced this law [00:16:19] which effectively criminalized [00:16:21] anti-semitism in Florida. No, look, [00:16:23] Tucker, I think you and I and your [00:16:25] viewers recognize that any form of [00:16:28] religious hatred should be condemned [00:16:30] unequivocally. [00:16:30] >> Well, of yeah, I have condemned it. I've [00:16:33] condemned anti-semitism. I've condemned [00:16:35] attacking people for being Muslim with [00:16:37] their kids for evil, too. Right. [00:16:38] >> I was called a jihadi for that. I'm [00:16:40] against all of it. And I'm certainly [00:16:41] opposed to the anti-Christian hate from [00:16:43] >> which is perhaps the most virulent. [00:16:45] That's for sure. So, no, I'm of course [00:16:46] I'm a totally I'm a Christian. I'm [00:16:48] opposed to that. But you can't [00:16:50] criminalize attitudes. Every person's [00:16:52] free to have his own attitudes, ugly as [00:16:53] they may be. Period. [00:16:54] >> Correct. And the issue is if you look at [00:16:59] if you look at the statutory definition [00:17:01] of anti-semitism here in Florida, which [00:17:03] is 10105 in our state statute, it [00:17:07] actually says that criticizing the [00:17:09] Jewish state, that would be Israel, [00:17:11] holding them to a double standard, [00:17:13] denying them [00:17:15] their place on the world stage. That's [00:17:17] literally in state statute 101. [00:17:19] >> It's against the law to criticize [00:17:20] Israel. [00:17:22] >> Think about that. So, if you're a [00:17:23] college student at FSU and you're having [00:17:25] an earnest goodfaith debate with someone [00:17:27] who sympathizes with the Israeli cause, [00:17:30] you with the Palestinian cause, whatever [00:17:31] the case is, and one of you says [00:17:33] Netanyahu is a war criminal or Israel is [00:17:36] committing genocide, you could literally [00:17:38] be punished and expelled from your [00:17:41] taxpayer funded university by that. And [00:17:44] that is that is messed up. It is [00:17:46] unconstitutional. It's unamerican. [00:17:48] >> It's totally unamerican. And of course [00:17:50] the Republicans and Democrats in [00:17:52] Tallahassee got along with it because [00:17:55] their donors wanted them to get along [00:17:56] with it. And so Randy Fine is the one [00:17:58] who introduced that [00:17:59] >> introduced it and it was his idea to [00:18:01] have it signed in Israel. [00:18:04] Why would Dantis who is smart if nothing [00:18:07] not a warm person obviously but he's [00:18:09] definitely not stupid. Why would he go [00:18:11] along with something like that? [00:18:12] >> It's a great question. what you know I I [00:18:14] hold the governor to the incredible work [00:18:16] that he did during co education all of [00:18:19] that [00:18:20] >> I think that what's quite telling just [00:18:22] recent events is maybe you heard a [00:18:24] foreign leader was here in Florida last [00:18:26] week [00:18:27] >> one Benjamin Netanyahu his fifth visit [00:18:29] to the United States is a total criminal [00:18:31] >> he's a depraved little man to be [00:18:33] completely honest [00:18:34] >> and he was here [00:18:36] >> and you know all of Ashley Moody Bernie [00:18:40] Mareno all came down to meet with him [00:18:42] the governor didn't. Governor DeSantis [00:18:44] didn't, but the lieutenant governor, Jay [00:18:45] Collins, did and so I think it's easy [00:18:48] for us to go back and say, you know, why [00:18:49] did the governor do this, that, or the [00:18:50] other several years ago, but at this [00:18:53] moment in time when the governor had the [00:18:54] opportunity to meet with Netanyahu, it [00:18:57] seems like he deliberately chose not to, [00:18:58] which was an absolutely wise decision. [00:19:00] But Jay Collins did meet with him, which [00:19:02] is actually rather interesting because [00:19:04] 40 hours before that meeting happened, [00:19:06] Israeli media said that I am a quote [00:19:09] threat. That I am a bigger threat to [00:19:11] Israel than Donald Trump's. Who? Who is [00:19:15] I am? You. Yeah. How old are you? I'm [00:19:18] 31. [00:19:20] Well, congratulations [00:19:22] for being an existential threat to a [00:19:24] nation state cuz you're running for [00:19:26] governor. This is They really said that. [00:19:27] They said that. And because I push out a [00:19:29] policy that was actually quite popular [00:19:32] with almost everybody and it is the fact [00:19:36] that Florida lends Israel $385 million [00:19:41] as we sit here today. And so what I said [00:19:43] is at day one as governor, executive [00:19:45] order number two would be to fully [00:19:47] divest all foreign bonds of any country [00:19:51] and there's only one country that we [00:19:52] invest in abroad and that's Israel. $385 [00:19:56] million. You know what really got them [00:19:58] is I said I would then take the 385 [00:20:01] million and create a statewide down [00:20:03] payment assistance program for young [00:20:04] married couples because we have to [00:20:06] protect home ownership so young folks [00:20:08] across our state can buy a place to [00:20:10] live, get married, and have kids. [00:20:13] >> Okay. Well, you've got my vote. That's [00:20:14] all I needed to hear. 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[00:21:43] >> What? [00:21:44] >> Why? [00:21:44] >> Well, don't take [00:21:45] >> What does Florida have to do with [00:21:46] Israel? It's so far away. So I actually [00:21:49] was a government bond trader in a [00:21:51] different life which is to say 3 or 4 [00:21:53] years ago. And so I traded government [00:21:55] bonds and interest rate futures and all [00:21:56] of that stuff. And so what happened was [00:21:59] after the tragedy that was October 7th [00:22:01] and unequivocally was a tragedy. Of [00:22:03] course [00:22:05] it the Florida state government state [00:22:08] chief financial officer Jimmy Petronis [00:22:10] who's now in Congress [00:22:13] he announced that to stand with Israel [00:22:16] we were going to start buying tens of [00:22:18] millions which became hundreds of [00:22:19] millions of dollars in Israeli bonds. [00:22:22] This was a purely political decision. It [00:22:25] wasn't a decision that says hey the the [00:22:27] yield the rate of return on Israeli debt [00:22:30] is actually quite high so we should buy [00:22:31] some. No, it was to stand in solidarity [00:22:35] with a foreign country. We are going to [00:22:37] take taxpayer money money and lend it in [00:22:40] the form of a sovereign government bond [00:22:42] purchase. They weren't even hiding how [00:22:44] nakedly political they were. And just [00:22:46] for a moment, I just want to [00:22:47] >> but what about the the pensioners who [00:22:49] rely on the returns of those bonds to [00:22:50] like fund their retirement or the people [00:22:52] of Florida? Don't they isn't there [00:22:53] fiduciary duty of the legislature to [00:22:56] like look out for their interests or is [00:22:57] it only about helping BB? [00:22:59] >> The latter. Truly. I mean, you're right. [00:23:02] And by the way, and I I say this as [00:23:03] someone who was a fiduciary as an [00:23:05] investor. [00:23:06] >> Yes. [00:23:06] >> Think about it just for a moment. A [00:23:09] country is going to war is currently [00:23:12] being confronted by a soon-to-be nuclear [00:23:16] power in Iran, they say. [00:23:18] >> Yeah. [00:23:18] >> Is escalating tensions with all of its [00:23:20] neighbors. Just objectively, forget what [00:23:22] country that is. And now you think it's [00:23:24] a good time to compromise your fiduciary [00:23:26] responsibility and buy their government [00:23:28] debt. I mean, like, can you imagine [00:23:30] someone saying like [00:23:31] >> that seems like a good long-term bet [00:23:33] investment, right? Can you imagine [00:23:34] someone saying like whoever they are and [00:23:36] saying like, [00:23:38] "We just invaded Iraq in ' 03. We should [00:23:40] just stand with Iraq and buy their [00:23:42] bonds." Like, forget who Saddam Hussein [00:23:43] was. Like, why would it be a good idea [00:23:45] to buy Iraqi government bonds, [00:23:49] right? And by the way, they don't offer [00:23:50] a terrible amount of interest. Actually, [00:23:52] Israeli bonds often yield less than US [00:23:54] treasuries. [00:23:54] >> No way. [00:23:55] >> Yeah. So it's not like they were [00:23:57] yielding 20% and they were actually an [00:23:58] objectively good decision for our [00:24:00] pensioners. No, it was a nakedly [00:24:02] political decision without any [00:24:05] riskreward. It was all risk and no [00:24:07] reward to appease the Israeli [00:24:09] government. And [00:24:10] >> here's what I understand. So the donors [00:24:11] in Florida, so there are a lot of uh [00:24:14] very rich, very active donors in Florida [00:24:18] um who support Israel also. Why don't [00:24:21] they send their money? I don't [00:24:23] understand. Like if you're a [00:24:24] billionaire, why are you pressuring some [00:24:27] poor low IQ Florida politician to spend [00:24:29] taxpayer money on a foreign country when [00:24:31] you could just send your own money to [00:24:32] foreign country? [00:24:33] >> I actually think it is sadistic. [00:24:37] >> I think so too. [00:24:37] >> I think it's actually symbolic because [00:24:39] you're right, a large hedge fund in [00:24:41] Miami or Palm Beach could I mean it [00:24:43] would be nothing to buy $380 million of [00:24:45] Israeli bonds. They could have leverage. [00:24:46] I mean it nothing. It would be done in [00:24:48] one day. [00:24:49] >> But it's the symbolism of the [00:24:52] solidarity. And by the way, the Florida [00:24:54] state pension framework prohibits all [00:24:58] foreign government bond purchases with [00:25:00] one exception. Israel [00:25:03] is serious. [00:25:03] >> Literally prohibited in their investment [00:25:05] framework that you cannot buy the bonds [00:25:07] of any country, Luxembourg, Switzerland, [00:25:10] the UK. And those actually may be good [00:25:12] investments, but Israel, for in their [00:25:15] own words, to stand in solidarity with [00:25:17] them after October 7th, we decided to [00:25:20] send $385 million. And that's why as [00:25:24] Florida governor, I'm going to devest [00:25:25] that full 385 and then start a statewide [00:25:28] with that money, a statewide down [00:25:30] payment assistance program. Because [00:25:31] right now, you got young couples across [00:25:33] the state who are renting. They're [00:25:35] staring down the prospect of the 50-year [00:25:36] mortgage. They can't feel like they have [00:25:38] any equity in their future. 50-year [00:25:40] mortgage. That's the craziest thing I've [00:25:42] ever heard. [00:25:43] >> That's the solution to the affordability [00:25:44] crisis is just turn everyone into a [00:25:46] renter. [00:25:47] >> Yeah, [00:25:48] >> it's usery. It's just imposing usery on [00:25:50] us. [00:25:53] >> Of course, I knew the answer to my own [00:25:54] question, but it's just so grotesque. [00:25:55] It's hard to believe that's real. But I [00:25:57] think this is the I think this is the [00:25:59] frustration not with the president, but [00:26:01] with a lot of his adviserss is there are [00:26:04] real concerns about affordability in my [00:26:06] state. And number one is home ownership. [00:26:08] Right? If you can't buy a home, can you [00:26:10] get married? If you can't get married, [00:26:12] can you have kids? And if you can't have [00:26:13] kids, then what on earth is the point, [00:26:14] Tucker? [00:26:15] >> Exactly. [00:26:15] >> Right. And so, I think the president [00:26:17] instinctively recognizes that we have to [00:26:20] solve this problem. But the solution [00:26:21] isn't to go from 30 years of debt [00:26:23] slavery to 50 years so you can save $100 [00:26:26] a month. I mean, my my dad and I did the [00:26:28] math, and for the average home here in [00:26:30] Florida, a 50-year mortgage would mean [00:26:33] that if you paid $250,000 [00:26:35] to the mortgage serer, you would own [00:26:38] precisely $18,000 of equity in your [00:26:42] home. This is literally what was called [00:26:44] out biblically, what we were warned [00:26:46] against. [00:26:47] >> That's correct. [00:26:48] >> And so, we have to be very honest about [00:26:50] the system that they're creating. You [00:26:51] know, I was kind of skeptical. Glothing [00:26:53] in 15 and 16 when the World Economic [00:26:55] Forum trotted out this the year is 2030 [00:26:57] and you will own nothing. [00:26:59] >> We are rapidly racing toward that course [00:27:02] today [00:27:03] >> and people are getting off on it and in [00:27:05] actually like in a sexual sadistic way. [00:27:07] I totally agree [00:27:07] >> that that we are I think cucked to the [00:27:09] point that we have to bend over. We [00:27:12] can't own anything. We can't have jobs [00:27:14] in our country anymore. And if we ask [00:27:16] questions about why we sent $385 [00:27:19] million, if I stand up as a candidate [00:27:21] for governor, I am smeared by the [00:27:23] effectively the state media of Israel [00:27:25] and called a threat to their country. [00:27:28] Well, you are a threat actually because [00:27:30] for example, [00:27:32] I didn't know that. I didn't know that [00:27:35] the state of Florida's pension fund had [00:27:38] invested $300 million in Israeli bonds [00:27:42] and they're the only country that the [00:27:44] state's allowed to buy bonds from. And I [00:27:46] mean, I didn't know any of that. So, [00:27:48] just saying that out loud is a massive [00:27:50] threat. I think all of this stuff [00:27:53] happens because people don't know it's [00:27:54] happening and they're kind of lulled [00:27:56] like cattle into a trance. Don't you [00:27:58] think? That's right. [00:28:00] So uh so the genocide guy [00:28:05] is the one who came up with the hate [00:28:07] speech law. Now was he a member of [00:28:09] Congress then? [00:28:10] >> State states representatives. [00:28:12] >> State Randy fine. [00:28:13] >> Yeah. State House. [00:28:14] >> Um have you talked to him? [00:28:16] >> Well, he called me the other day [00:28:17] actually. [00:28:18] >> The genocide guy called? [00:28:18] >> Yeah, the genocide guy called. He woke [00:28:20] me up at like 7 7 a.m. [00:28:22] >> That's never a good day. [00:28:24] >> The genocide guy calls and wakes you up. [00:28:26] >> He was breathing rather heavily. [00:28:27] >> I bet he was. And I think he was in a [00:28:29] car. I heard some Cheezits rumbling [00:28:31] around in the back seat. I know that [00:28:33] sound, Tucker. I know the difference [00:28:34] between a Cheeit and a Pringle as a [00:28:36] former addict. [00:28:38] >> But gosh. So he calls me. He says, "I [00:28:40] hear you're running against Byron." And [00:28:42] I said, [00:28:43] >> "But that' be Byron Donald." [00:28:44] >> That be Byron Donald's. Yes. It goes [00:28:45] with many names. We have H1 Byron, Apac, [00:28:47] Shakur. We can get into that later, [00:28:48] >> but I hear you're running against Byron [00:28:50] Donald's. And I said, "Yeah, I'm [00:28:51] thinking about it. I I perspective." I [00:28:53] said, "I'm thinking about it, [00:28:53] Congressman." And he said, 'Well, you [00:28:56] know, you should know that it's not very [00:28:58] nice to Byron if you did that. I don't [00:29:00] care what's nice to Byron, Congressman. [00:29:02] I'm fighting for my state. My state is [00:29:04] getting sold off in pieces by the [00:29:06] property developers is getting sold off. [00:29:08] What were once citrus groves and cattle [00:29:10] ranches are now going to be scam alman's [00:29:12] next AI data center? That's not what we [00:29:14] stand for here in Florida. And so, for [00:29:16] 42 minutes, he proceeds to call me out. [00:29:18] And I'm just listen I'm I'm brushing my [00:29:20] teeth. I I'm on mute. I'm just let let [00:29:21] him talk. But it was very clear, and [00:29:24] this is before I had formally announced, [00:29:26] but it was publicly talked about that I [00:29:28] was seriously considering running, that [00:29:30] a sitting member of Congress in [00:29:32] Washington DC at the time was taking 42 [00:29:35] minutes out of his day not to talk to a [00:29:37] constituent about one of their needs, [00:29:39] but to intimidate me into not [00:29:42] challenging. You [00:29:42] >> think he was trying to intimidate you? [00:29:44] >> I think so. Didn't work. [00:29:45] >> I mean, if he laughs at the murder of [00:29:47] children, I I guess I shouldn't be [00:29:49] surprised, [00:29:49] >> right? [00:29:52] Wow. Does he have power in the state? [00:29:55] >> Not really. He has power in the sense [00:29:57] that he's the only he was the only [00:29:59] Jewish Republican in in Florida in the [00:30:02] state house, state senate. He of course [00:30:04] then when when Mike Waltz got appointed [00:30:06] to national security adviser and did [00:30:08] such a brilliant job there uh his seat [00:30:10] was vacant and then Randy Fine quickly [00:30:13] moved into the district and decided to [00:30:15] run for Congress after quite literally 2 [00:30:17] months beforehand being elected to the [00:30:20] state senate after having served in the [00:30:21] state house. And that's why I'm proud to [00:30:24] support my friend Aaron Baker who's now [00:30:25] running against Randy Fine primarying [00:30:27] him. So Fine's not even from the [00:30:29] district. [00:30:29] >> No, he's not. He's from he's from Bard [00:30:31] County down in Melbourne. How did he get [00:30:33] the seat? How did he win? [00:30:35] >> A lot of strings. And of course, you [00:30:37] know, the president came in and endorsed [00:30:38] him as well, but a lot of very powerful [00:30:40] people pulled strings. And it's actually [00:30:42] a very deep red district that he only [00:30:43] ended up winning by five points, which [00:30:44] just shows you how deeply detested he is [00:30:47] by the people of Florida's sixth [00:30:49] congressional district. [00:30:50] >> Well, yeah. I mean, members of Congress [00:30:52] shouldn't endorse genocide or laugh at [00:30:54] the murder of children. No, [00:30:55] >> that's disqualifying, [00:30:56] >> right? Quite literally starve away. when [00:30:58] there was an image, this is July of [00:31:01] 2025, an image of children starving. [00:31:05] His answer was starve away, a sitting [00:31:08] member. I called the speaker of the [00:31:10] house when that happened and I I don't [00:31:12] get involved in anything really, but I I [00:31:14] said I don't know how you can have this [00:31:16] guy in the Republican party. I'm not [00:31:17] going to vote for that. I would never [00:31:19] vote for a party that endorses killing [00:31:20] kids. Why would I do that? I'm a human [00:31:22] being. [00:31:23] >> But but George Santos got some Botox and [00:31:25] he gets expelled. Let me think about [00:31:26] that for a second. Right. [00:31:28] >> No. Still starve away. That's like it's [00:31:31] everything that we have to be against. [00:31:33] >> That's right. And I think whichever side [00:31:35] of that conflict and I think most [00:31:36] Americans they resonate with the words [00:31:38] of President Trump is you want the [00:31:40] killing to stop. Whether it's in [00:31:41] Ukraine, [00:31:42] >> Russia, Israel, it doesn't matter. [00:31:44] >> If I was a Jewish Issraeli Zionist, I [00:31:47] would still feel that way. You can't [00:31:48] ever laugh at the death of children. [00:31:51] It's nothing to Yeah. That's it's [00:31:53] totally disqualifying. to the point [00:31:54] where he was literally disavowed by [00:31:56] Apac. [00:31:56] >> Yeah. [00:31:57] >> Literally disavowed by [00:31:58] >> takes a lot. [00:31:58] >> Apac of all groups. Uh speaking of [00:32:01] which, Miriam Madson has already [00:32:02] announced that she's funding a war chest [00:32:04] against me. Told that to NBC News last [00:32:07] month. Yes. Against me. Called me out by [00:32:09] name. We're monitor. They did. They did [00:32:10] the meme, Tucker. We're literally [00:32:11] monitoring the situation is what was [00:32:13] said. And Miss Adlesen will be raising a [00:32:16] war chest against Mr. Fishbach. [00:32:20] >> Miriam Adlesen is spending against you. [00:32:22] Yes. [00:32:24] and she's backing [00:32:26] >> Byron. [00:32:27] >> Byron. And that's why you call him Apac [00:32:30] Shakur, [00:32:30] >> among other reasons. [00:32:32] So [00:32:33] >> the second the second part of it for [00:32:34] other reasons. [00:32:36] >> I wouldn't call I wouldn't call Randy [00:32:38] Apac Shakur. [00:32:41] That is just too funny. You don't need [00:32:43] to be an economist to see what's [00:32:44] happening. The dollar is in trouble. [00:32:46] It's getting weaker. It's sad, but we're [00:32:48] not in charge of it. So we have to [00:32:50] respond appropriately in ways to protect [00:32:52] our families. When paper money dies, [00:32:54] it's going to be replaced by [00:32:55] programmable digital currency or gold. [00:32:58] Gold survives. 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It's [00:33:31] about sovereignty and holding something [00:33:33] that endures and cannot be manipulated [00:33:35] or taken from you. So, if you've been [00:33:36] waiting for the right time to act, this [00:33:38] is it. Visit battalion metals.com. [00:33:43] How has he responded to Apac Shakur? [00:33:46] Well, his campaign called me racist. Not [00:33:48] for that comment, but because I called [00:33:49] him a slave to his donors. [00:33:51] >> Yeah. [00:33:51] >> And I said, "With all due respect, I [00:33:53] I'll stop calling you a slave if you [00:33:55] give the money back. The $45 million you [00:33:57] gave to your donor that your donors gave [00:33:58] you." [00:33:59] >> $45 million. [00:34:00] >> $45 million in a primary that was [00:34:01] uncontested until 5 weeks ago. [00:34:04] >> No way. [00:34:04] >> $45 million in an uncontested primary [00:34:08] until 5 weeks ago until I entered. [00:34:10] >> And that was all to encourage him to [00:34:11] make Florida better [00:34:12] >> apparently. and his idea of making [00:34:14] Florida better. In his own words, he [00:34:16] wants to quote speed up the construction [00:34:19] of AI data centers. His words, he said [00:34:23] in a private meeting with donors, I have [00:34:24] a friend of mine who was there and he [00:34:26] said, "What do you think about [00:34:27] Fishbach's proposal to ban Blackstone [00:34:29] from buying single family homes and [00:34:31] forcing us to rent as opposed to own?" [00:34:33] And what Byron told the donor in that [00:34:34] meeting is that Blackstone bailed the [00:34:38] economy. They saved us in the financial [00:34:40] crisis. [00:34:42] they deserve to be able to buy those [00:34:43] homes. That's capitalism. That was his [00:34:46] response. And I say, "Look, the goal [00:34:48] here is we need to look out for our own [00:34:50] people." When a family of four is [00:34:52] getting outbid by 1,500 bucks by a [00:34:54] private equity firm that's taking [00:34:55] Chinese money at the capital gains rate [00:34:57] as opposed to the rate that you and I [00:34:59] pay and everyone else pays, [00:35:00] >> half they pay half the tax rate. [00:35:01] >> They pay half carried interest [00:35:04] 20%. And he thinks that because of what [00:35:08] Blackstone did, which they didn't [00:35:09] actually do, what Blackstone allegedly [00:35:12] did in 2008, gives them cover to run [00:35:16] rough shot over all of us and to take [00:35:18] homes from under our feet. And this is [00:35:20] not a hypothetical thing. This is [00:35:21] happening right now. Mayor Byron said [00:35:23] that to a donor [00:35:26] because what I have said, executive [00:35:28] order number three, is that I would ban [00:35:30] Blackstone, any private equity firm, any [00:35:33] Airbnb speculator, and any foreign [00:35:36] national from buying a single family [00:35:38] home in this state of Florida. You don't [00:35:41] get to have a right to our homes. If you [00:35:43] or I were to go to Canada right now and [00:35:44] buy a single family home, we would [00:35:46] legally be prohibited from doing so. [00:35:48] Because say what you want about Trudeau [00:35:50] or Carney, I guess they got the memo [00:35:52] that Canadian that Canada is for [00:35:54] Canadians. America's for Americans. And [00:35:56] I don't think it's okay that a Chinese [00:35:58] national or Russian national or an [00:35:59] Israeli national can come here and [00:36:01] outbid a family that's known this state [00:36:03] for 2, three generations and say, "You [00:36:05] know what? That home that you wanted to [00:36:07] buy to get married to your wife and to [00:36:08] have three kids, that's not available [00:36:10] anymore cuz a foreign national wants to [00:36:11] vacation here for 5 weeks out of the [00:36:13] year." [00:36:15] Man, you're spinning me up, getting mad [00:36:18] just hearing this. Um, what kind of [00:36:20] reaction do you get when you say that? [00:36:23] Very positive. I'll tell you one. [00:36:25] >> Yeah, I bet you do. [00:36:26] >> Well, I get a very positive reaction [00:36:28] because I think, and you've pointed this [00:36:29] out, I I loved your speech at Amfest [00:36:32] because you recognized that America [00:36:33] first is not owned exclusively by any [00:36:36] party. [00:36:37] >> Of course not. In fact, if you went out [00:36:38] and pulled that very question, that [00:36:40] framework that you put out, which is the [00:36:42] American government should exclusively [00:36:44] look out for the interests of its [00:36:46] citizens, 90% of not just Republicans of [00:36:49] literally everyone would agree with that [00:36:50] statement. [00:36:51] >> Yes. And so what I was amazed by is we [00:36:54] had a meet and greet in Tampa Bay this [00:36:56] past weekend and we had 50 or so people [00:36:59] RSVPd. Over 200 showed up and a dozen on [00:37:02] their way out said, "I wasn't even a [00:37:04] Republican. I'm an independent. I'm a [00:37:06] Democrat. I am changing my party [00:37:08] affiliation so I can vote for you in the [00:37:10] primary because just like South [00:37:12] Carolina, I know you had Paul on [00:37:13] recently. Just like South Carolina, [00:37:15] Florida is a red state. The next [00:37:17] governor mathematically will be a [00:37:19] Republican. Trump won the state by 13, [00:37:21] Ronda Santis by 19. The next governor is [00:37:24] going to be a Republican. The question [00:37:25] is what kind of Republican, Tucker? [00:37:29] >> Yeah. I mean, if it's the Republican who [00:37:31] laughs at dead children, I'm not voting [00:37:33] Republican. I'm not going to ever vote [00:37:35] for anyone like that. Anyone who's pro- [00:37:37] death, who's against human dignity, for [00:37:40] hate speech laws, who doesn't think that [00:37:43] providing the next generation a chance [00:37:46] to get married and have kids and own a [00:37:48] home. If you're not on board with that, [00:37:49] then I have nothing in common with you. [00:37:51] Yeah. [00:37:51] >> I don't care what you call yourself. [00:37:53] >> That's right. [00:37:53] >> And I think this idea that of the party [00:37:56] labels has become a hall of mirrors. [00:37:57] >> That's for sure. What you see isn't what [00:37:59] you get. I mean, by the way, Byron [00:38:00] Donald's as of right now still endorses [00:38:04] Randy Fine's reelection bid despite that [00:38:07] star [00:38:09] >> and they tried to cancel you for having [00:38:11] a conversation with a certain someone. [00:38:14] He's literally endorsing a member of [00:38:16] Congress who told innocent children who [00:38:18] were literally starving on video to [00:38:20] starve away. That tells you everything [00:38:23] you need to know about my opponent, [00:38:24] Byron Donald's. [00:38:26] >> Well, I I know Byron and I've always [00:38:28] gotten along with him. He's super [00:38:30] cheerful. Um I didn't realize is Is he [00:38:32] ideological? I've never detected that. [00:38:34] >> No. [00:38:35] >> That's why I call him a slave. [00:38:37] >> Yeah. [00:38:38] >> What did And they called you a racist [00:38:40] for that? [00:38:40] >> They didn't. Which is actually quite [00:38:42] interesting because I got a call from [00:38:44] the Foundational Black American Society [00:38:46] here in Florida who reminded me that [00:38:49] Byron's [00:38:50] mother is Jamaican. He is Panameanian. [00:38:53] And they found it quite insulting in [00:38:55] their words that he would try to claim [00:38:56] victimhood of slavery that a single [00:38:58] descendant of American slaves in his [00:39:00] family. [00:39:00] >> I like those foundational guys nasheed [00:39:03] and all. I mean, I don't agree with [00:39:04] everything, but like I they've got a [00:39:06] perspective. If your family's been here [00:39:08] 400 years [00:39:10] >> and the descendants of a lot of American [00:39:12] slaves or families have been here 400 [00:39:13] years, I don't know. I I think that [00:39:15] gives I'll listen to you like, you know, [00:39:18] you've got a point of view that is [00:39:19] legitimate, I think. [00:39:20] >> Yeah. And they're they're unequivocally [00:39:22] heritage Americans. [00:39:23] >> That's for sure. They're definitely [00:39:25] heritage Americans. If anyone is. And [00:39:28] you know, someone rolls in from Ghana [00:39:29] and like, you know, gets an MSNBC slot [00:39:32] and starts telling you speaking on [00:39:34] behalf of black people. It's like, shut [00:39:36] up, honey. You've got nothing to do with [00:39:38] this. [00:39:38] >> That's a fair perspective, I think. And [00:39:40] so, it's good to actually see them call [00:39:41] them out for that. That's actually [00:39:43] cultural appropriation. Appropriating [00:39:45] the struggle of slavery. [00:39:46] >> I totally agree. [00:39:47] >> And the struggle of slavery was real. [00:39:48] Let's I mean I don't think Republicans [00:39:49] ever want to really whitewash that. It's [00:39:51] real, right? But for slavery, we're [00:39:54] against it. [00:39:54] >> Whether it's in the, you know, West Bank [00:39:56] or or here or anywhere. [00:39:57] >> Anywhere. [00:39:58] >> Yeah. Against it. [00:39:58] >> And so for Byron's [00:40:01] group, his team to call me and [00:40:04] essentially our entire supporting base, [00:40:07] racists, for saying that you're a slave [00:40:09] when quite literally you took $45 [00:40:11] million. You won't tell us what you [00:40:13] agreed to to take that money this early [00:40:14] in a primary, which is unprecedented. [00:40:16] you know this how unprecedented that [00:40:17] kind of money is in an uncontested [00:40:19] primary until now. But secondarily to [00:40:21] actually go out and try to gaslight us [00:40:23] and think that you're just one of those [00:40:25] guys that has been here, you know, since [00:40:27] the early 1800s and your family was in [00:40:29] the struggle, too. You're not. And [00:40:31] that's a very interesting term that the [00:40:32] foundational black Americans use. It's [00:40:34] called tether. They're tethering these [00:40:36] tethers like Byron Donald's. They come [00:40:38] here literally one generation in and [00:40:41] they try to just sit around and act so [00:40:43] folksy that we're all part of the same [00:40:45] struggle and we're all down on our and [00:40:46] we need to fight against No, you just [00:40:48] got here, dude. Like the Haitians, like [00:40:50] the the guys from Ghana who just got [00:40:52] here, you don't get to just be a part of [00:40:55] our system and then lecture us [00:40:57] >> about how our country went wrong. [00:40:59] >> Well, and and if you're a Republican, [00:41:01] supposedly conservative Republican, to [00:41:02] throw around the term racist, I mean, [00:41:05] that's what I personally I'll speak for [00:41:06] myself. I voted against that in November [00:41:08] last year, [00:41:09] >> right? [00:41:09] >> I don't like that style of non-argument. [00:41:12] Just dismiss someone off the top. You're [00:41:14] you're a bad person. I don't have to [00:41:15] respond to your specific charge against [00:41:17] me. I I'm too old for that. I thought we [00:41:20] were Aren't we opposed to that identity [00:41:21] politics? [00:41:22] >> 100%. [00:41:23] >> And I I'll tell you the the identity [00:41:25] politics of the right is probably the [00:41:29] greatest it's ever been. But it's [00:41:30] actually codified into law, which is the [00:41:32] scariest part. [00:41:32] >> I've noticed that, [00:41:33] >> right? you know, say what you want, but [00:41:37] left-wing identity politics never [00:41:39] criminalized being a racist to a black [00:41:42] person in that sense. Like there was [00:41:43] never a hate speech law against which [00:41:45] would have been unjust to call out a [00:41:46] black person or black culture or [00:41:48] anything like that. [00:41:49] >> I think that's deplorable to single out [00:41:51] any as a Christian. I would right of [00:41:52] course condemn that. [00:41:53] >> Of course, [00:41:54] >> but it's interesting that there's only a [00:41:56] hate speech law for one particular [00:41:59] foreign nation as opposed to anything. [00:42:01] I'm I'm against them entirely because [00:42:03] they're blatantly unconstitutional. They [00:42:04] violate the First Amendment, [00:42:05] >> of course. [00:42:06] >> But it's interesting that right-wing [00:42:08] identity politics has gotten to this [00:42:10] point where anti-semitic is just a term. [00:42:12] I mean, I was I got a call from the [00:42:14] Sunset Auditorial board. They were [00:42:16] interviewing me the other day and they [00:42:17] said, this is fascinating. This is the [00:42:19] the paper of record in South Florida, my [00:42:20] childhood paper in Fort Lauderdale, and [00:42:22] they asked me, "Why did you put out an [00:42:25] anti-semitic proposal to divest the $385 [00:42:28] million?" [00:42:30] said, "How is it anti-Semitic to bring [00:42:32] back money, our money that was foolishly [00:42:35] sent over [00:42:35] >> to not buy sovereign bonds?" Like, what? [00:42:38] >> Which actually have a subpar return [00:42:40] given the geopolitical risk premium on [00:42:42] offer in Israel right now, if we're [00:42:44] going to be completely honest, right? [00:42:47] >> They actually said that to you. [00:42:48] >> They actually said that and I just [00:42:50] challenged the entire [00:42:51] >> Buy our bonds or you're a Nazi. That's [00:42:53] kind of the trade. [00:42:54] >> Or you're a Nazi. [00:42:55] >> And by the way, think about this, [00:42:56] Tucker. This is so bonkers. I can't. [00:42:59] >> What's actually anti because this $385 [00:43:01] million statewide down payment [00:43:02] assistance program, this would of course [00:43:04] go to any Florida resident who is young [00:43:06] and married. So, the ironic thing is [00:43:08] that actually opposing it, if anything, [00:43:10] would be anti-Semitic because they're [00:43:11] going to be young Jewish couples who are [00:43:13] ready to buy a home, start a family, and [00:43:16] live out the American dream here in the [00:43:17] Sunshine State. And so, it's amazing [00:43:19] that we've gotten to this point of [00:43:21] debate and discourse in America where [00:43:24] the ad homonym attack precludes the [00:43:26] debate from even happening. Look, you [00:43:27] want to have an honest, earnest debate [00:43:28] about buying Israeli bonds, fine. I [00:43:30] welcome that debate. But don't sit here [00:43:31] and call American citizens anti-Semitic [00:43:34] for opposing a third of a billion [00:43:35] dollars being shipped overseas to fund [00:43:37] some stupid war. I totally agree. And it [00:43:41] is kind of crazy if you think about I've [00:43:43] got nothing against Miriam Aden [00:43:45] personally. I know her, but I mean she's [00:43:48] an Israeli and Donald Trump said in his [00:43:51] remarks on television in the Knesset to [00:43:53] her, you care about Israel more than the [00:43:55] United States, which is her right. But [00:43:57] how was she a huge player in my country, [00:44:00] not her country, my country's politics? [00:44:02] Like, how was that allowed? If there was [00:44:04] some Chinese guy and he was pretty open [00:44:06] about caring a lot more about the CCP [00:44:09] than he cares about the United States, [00:44:12] it would not be cool to take money from [00:44:14] him. And that person would not be [00:44:15] allowed to get on TV and be like, "I [00:44:16] don't like what you're saying about my [00:44:18] actual country. Therefore, I'm going to [00:44:20] drown you in gambling money from China." [00:44:23] >> Yeah. [00:44:23] >> From Macau. Yeah. Yeah. [00:44:24] >> Well, can you imagine like the [00:44:25] equivalent? [00:44:26] >> What is going on? Why is Why do we think [00:44:28] this is normal? Talk about foreign [00:44:29] interference in our elections. But it's [00:44:31] it's a two-tiered system of foreign [00:44:33] interference because remember Jack Ma [00:44:34] from Alibaba, right? [00:44:35] >> Can you imagine if Jack Ma was running [00:44:37] around telling NBC News he was going to [00:44:39] fund political candidates? [00:44:40] >> Well, exactly. [00:44:41] >> How outraged he would literally get [00:44:43] investigated by the DOJ on some madeup [00:44:45] moneyaundering charge. [00:44:46] >> That is right. [00:44:47] >> Moved some comma the wrong way and it's [00:44:48] suddenly wire fraud under the commerce [00:44:50] clause. Right. But think about it. Can [00:44:53] you imagine how repulsed we would all [00:44:55] rightly be if Shak Ma or some Ukrainian [00:44:58] or Russian oligarch was openly [00:45:00] flagrantly being involved in US [00:45:02] politics? [00:45:05] >> That's totally bonkers. Um, [00:45:08] so when you call has Byron taken money [00:45:10] from Apac? [00:45:10] >> Yes. [00:45:12] >> So that's why Apac Shakore. [00:45:13] >> Yes. [00:45:13] >> I just like [00:45:14] >> I'm only factual with these things [00:45:15] >> because it's very funny. Did that go [00:45:18] over well? [00:45:18] >> It went over very well. It went over [00:45:21] very well and people like it. I think [00:45:23] people want I don't try to take myself [00:45:26] too seriously and you know I think [00:45:29] >> we're not allowed to. [00:45:30] >> We're not allowed to. Gen Z was such an [00:45:32] important part of the president's [00:45:34] victory last year. [00:45:35] >> Yes. [00:45:36] >> And they feel betrayed by a lot of these [00:45:38] Trump adviserss and what they've chosen [00:45:40] to prioritize and not. [00:45:42] >> I can see why. And when I've met them, [00:45:44] and I've met them where they are at [00:45:46] their universities, whether it's UF a [00:45:48] couple weeks ago, I'll be at FSU in just [00:45:50] a couple weeks from now, their number [00:45:52] one frustration is that look, they don't [00:45:55] want to be lectured anymore. [00:45:58] They got a degree. They got good grades. [00:46:01] They got good test scores. They didn't [00:46:02] study gender studies or black [00:46:05] intersectionality. [00:46:07] They did the STEM thing that Republicans [00:46:09] told them to do. [00:46:10] >> Yeah. Learn to code. learn to code. And [00:46:13] now they say, "You know what? Amazon, [00:46:15] Google, FedEx, no. No. Those jobs aren't [00:46:17] available for you. You pesky Americans. [00:46:18] You want paid time off. You want to go [00:46:20] to church on Sunday. We're going to give [00:46:22] those jobs to an entire new class of [00:46:24] foreign surfs known as the Indians and [00:46:26] the Chinese. And we're not going to even [00:46:28] interview you for those positions." They [00:46:30] don't even pretend that the Chinese or [00:46:31] the Indians are smarter. They're not. [00:46:33] They don't speak our language. They have [00:46:34] no skin in the game. They're not at all. [00:46:37] >> Oh, I know. And so the issue then [00:46:39] becomes, do we actually have a labor [00:46:42] market that is utterly rigged against [00:46:44] American citizens? The answer is yes. [00:46:47] And you know that by virtue of the H-1B [00:46:49] program, these tech companies, it's not [00:46:51] as if they've stopped hiring generally. [00:46:53] They've stopped hiring Americans because [00:46:55] they can bring in all this cheap foreign [00:46:57] labor. My belief is that [00:47:01] a market-based wage is always going to [00:47:03] attract the best labor. [00:47:04] >> I agree with you [00:47:05] >> 100%. [00:47:05] >> That's the promise of the market, right? [00:47:07] It is. And I, you know, someone like Ben [00:47:08] Shapiro to come out at Amfest in one of [00:47:10] the side panels and he said, "I want [00:47:12] white men to stop complaining and get [00:47:13] off the couch because there are jobs [00:47:16] that are available." No, no, no. Here, [00:47:17] here's the truth, Ben. When you say [00:47:19] that, you say the Americans won't work [00:47:22] these jobs. No, Ben Shapiro, they won't [00:47:25] work these jobs at the slave submarket [00:47:28] wages that you are offering them. you [00:47:30] offer someone here in my state an honest [00:47:33] wage for an honest day's work, they'll [00:47:34] take that every single time and they'll [00:47:36] show up, but they'll take off on Sunday [00:47:38] to praise our Christian Lord. It's funny [00:47:40] to see um I never mention Ben Shapiro [00:47:43] cuz I don't think about him very often, [00:47:45] but on those moments where sort of you [00:47:48] see what somebody really thinks, just [00:47:50] kind of if you talk long enough, you [00:47:52] reveal what you really think. It's [00:47:53] always been my view. Ben Shapiro's total [00:47:57] disdain and loathing for white Christian [00:47:59] men is every bit as real, every bit as [00:48:02] bristling with hostility as any kind of [00:48:05] college democratic socialist of America [00:48:08] leftist. [00:48:09] >> Yes, [00:48:09] >> it's exactly the same. It's just like he [00:48:12] just hates them. [00:48:12] >> He hates them. [00:48:13] >> Why? [00:48:14] So, it's probably because [00:48:18] I mean there's a lot of reasons, but I [00:48:20] think that entire class of people [00:48:22] doesn't have a real solution and in fact [00:48:25] has profited on the demise of of all of [00:48:28] this. [00:48:28] >> And you know, it's not just young white [00:48:30] men. It's young black women who [00:48:32] literally studied engineering [00:48:35] >> and said, "You know what? I want to go [00:48:36] get a job working on this bridge." No, [00:48:39] that job that's not available for you [00:48:40] anymore. That job was given to an Indian [00:48:42] and it's actually effectively DEI for [00:48:45] Indians in the name of capitalism. I've [00:48:47] noticed it. Yeah. [00:48:48] >> Right. And I I think this is a part of a [00:48:50] bigger debate that's happening within [00:48:51] the party. This they call it a civil [00:48:52] war. I I call it a genuine good-spirited [00:48:54] debate is if we are saying that we're [00:48:57] principled conservatives, then it begs [00:49:00] the question from where do we draw these [00:49:02] principles? [00:49:02] >> Exactly. [00:49:03] >> Right. Is it from the American [00:49:04] Enterprise Institute? Is it from Ronald [00:49:06] McDaniel's handbook on conservative [00:49:08] principles? Or is it from our Christian [00:49:11] Bible? [00:49:12] >> Yeah. [00:49:12] >> Is it from our Constitution, our [00:49:14] Declaration of Independence, the [00:49:15] Federalist Papers? And I think this idea [00:49:17] of the free market, I think the free [00:49:18] market is a great place to get to the [00:49:21] destination, but the destination is not [00:49:23] a free market, Tucker. We don't get to [00:49:24] sit here and say, well, our people are [00:49:26] suffering and they're unemployed and [00:49:28] they're addicted to fentanyl and they [00:49:30] can't have kids and they can't own a [00:49:32] home and there's 50 years of usery, but [00:49:33] you know what? We got a free market and [00:49:35] we have the freest market in the world. [00:49:37] We have the freest market in the world. [00:49:38] No. If the goal was a free market, [00:49:40] Tucker, there'd be a slave auction [00:49:41] happening outside right now. There's [00:49:43] supply, there's demand, there's an [00:49:44] equilibrium. My view in the America [00:49:47] first movement is our northstar should [00:49:49] not be a free market, but a free people. [00:49:51] >> Amen. [00:49:51] >> And when I say free people, I mean [00:49:52] American citizens. I don't mean the [00:49:54] H-1Bs. I don't mean the Haitians on TPS. [00:49:56] And I sure as heck I sure as heck don't [00:49:59] mean any corporation that wants to come [00:50:01] here and plant a flag and say that our [00:50:04] goal is to boost profit margins and [00:50:06] stock price. And all of a sudden, all [00:50:08] that matters is not whether you can [00:50:10] raise a family or buy a home, but the [00:50:11] GDP beat expectations on your Bloomberg [00:50:14] terminal. [00:50:14] >> That's exactly right. That's exactly [00:50:16] right. How did you can I say something [00:50:19] cuz I know um to the extent this will be [00:50:22] seen and criticized, [00:50:24] I'm sure they people will say, "But this [00:50:26] guy was in a sex scandal and you didn't [00:50:27] mention it." I just I'm not asking you [00:50:29] to respond to this. I just want to tell [00:50:30] you my reasoning on it. So, the second [00:50:32] you were deemed a threat, they sent [00:50:35] people out and tried to call you a sex [00:50:37] criminal. Um, you've not been charged [00:50:39] with any sex crime that I know of. And [00:50:41] if you're a sex criminal, you know, I [00:50:42] hope you go to jail. And if you're not, [00:50:43] I hope they stop saying it. But a lot of [00:50:46] the people are pushing that have no [00:50:48] basis. I just I don't want to, you know, [00:50:51] attack anyone in particular, but it's [00:50:52] pretty unbelievable that some of the [00:50:54] people pushing that would accuse [00:50:56] somebody else of having an unorthodox [00:50:58] sex life. I think it's shocking actually [00:51:00] given what I know. So I hope they'll [00:51:02] stop doing that because they have no [00:51:04] basis for doing that and that's why I'm [00:51:05] not bringing it up. So I just want to [00:51:06] say that. [00:51:07] >> Well, thank you Tucker. [00:51:08] >> Sorry. It makes me mad. [00:51:10] >> Well, that level of hypocrisy is too [00:51:11] much. That's Pharisee level hypocrisy. [00:51:13] You can't have that. [00:51:14] >> It it it is. And you know the truth is [00:51:16] is that unlike a certain someone who [00:51:20] deleted social media recently because he [00:51:23] couldn't take the heat, I recognize that [00:51:25] my entire life is going to be blown [00:51:26] open. that there was a guy taking [00:51:28] pictures of me outside of my house the [00:51:29] other day. People taking videos of me at [00:51:31] at a bar. It's going to happen and I I [00:51:33] welcome it. I welcome that. I think if [00:51:34] you're going to run the third largest [00:51:35] state, you're going to control the life [00:51:38] of effectively two 23 and a half million [00:51:40] people here in Florida. You should have [00:51:42] to be an open book. But on that [00:51:44] particular point, if you'll allow me [00:51:45] just to address it. [00:51:46] >> Of course, [00:51:47] >> nowadays, false accusations against men [00:51:50] are all too common. [00:51:51] >> Yeah. Those accusations were brought [00:51:53] before a judge in Florida's second [00:51:56] judicial circuit and after two lengthy [00:51:58] hearings, I was fully exonerated. So, [00:52:00] don't take my word for it. There was 7 [00:52:02] hours of hearing time, evidence, all of [00:52:04] that. And a judge said, "You know what? [00:52:06] Not credible. No evidence to support it. [00:52:09] Mr. Fishbach, I apologize effectively [00:52:12] and you're exonerated." And so, I think [00:52:14] the silver lining to this particular [00:52:16] attack against me is that it's already [00:52:18] gone through due process. And the fact [00:52:20] that it's coming out now, I think shows [00:52:21] that our campaign, our vision is a real [00:52:24] threat to the deep establishment [00:52:25] interests that have hijacked our state. [00:52:27] But of all things to hit you on by those [00:52:29] people, it's uh it's a it, you know, [00:52:33] that enraged me. Like if you're going to [00:52:35] accuse someone else of having a weird [00:52:37] sex life, you better have a pretty [00:52:38] normal sex life. And if you don't, you [00:52:41] shouldn't do that. That's really uh too [00:52:43] much hypocrisy for me. So um the other [00:52:46] attack that I have seen against you is [00:52:48] that your views have changed. [00:52:49] >> Yeah. [00:52:50] >> And the response I have seen from you is [00:52:52] Oh yeah, they have. [00:52:53] >> So which is a great response I think. Um [00:52:56] my my views have changed completely. So [00:52:57] I'm I'm with you. [00:52:58] >> Yeah. [00:52:59] >> Tell me how your views and why your [00:53:00] views changed. [00:53:02] Well, [00:53:04] I would start on this issue of the [00:53:06] economy first and foremost because I [00:53:09] dropped out of college in 2015 to start [00:53:12] a hedge fund and I did that for 5 years. [00:53:15] Really? Yeah. [00:53:16] >> Good for you. [00:53:17] >> So, I was a macro trader, which meant [00:53:19] that I was always fascinated with [00:53:20] geopolitics. I was a high school debate [00:53:22] kid for four years. It changed my life. [00:53:24] I had a stutter. I wasn't as confident [00:53:26] speaking publicly. And turns out going [00:53:27] to a high school debate tournament every [00:53:28] other weekend for four years will turn [00:53:30] that around pretty quickly. Yes. [00:53:31] >> First tournament, by the way, was at [00:53:33] Marjgery Stoman Douglas High School in [00:53:35] Parkland. No way. [00:53:36] >> In 2009, where [00:53:38] >> we actually debated an assault weapons [00:53:40] ban, an assault weapons ban of all [00:53:42] things. [00:53:43] >> Um, [00:53:43] >> but yeah, grew up in Broward County and [00:53:47] my my career has been as an investor, [00:53:49] looking at the world as a macro [00:53:51] investor, saying, "How is the Fed going [00:53:53] to screw this up next?" Right? looking [00:53:56] at what happened with COVID, the supply [00:53:59] chain, the supply chain lockdowns, the [00:54:02] massive fiscal transfers, the stimulus [00:54:04] that was going into the economy, [00:54:05] oftentimes to the lowest income folks, [00:54:07] which had the highest propensity to [00:54:08] spend that was clearly going to cause [00:54:10] inflation alongside the money printing [00:54:12] from the Fed upwards of $5 trillion. And [00:54:14] so those are types of trades that I put [00:54:16] on as as an investor. And so I really [00:54:19] viewed a lot of this world from quite [00:54:21] literally the perch of a Bloomberg [00:54:22] terminal. So when I was saying looking [00:54:23] at GDP expectations on a Bloomberg, that [00:54:26] was me for 10 years. I spent a lot more [00:54:28] time on the ground. I started a [00:54:30] nonprofit called Incubate Debate to [00:54:32] offer free high school debate leagues [00:54:34] all across my state from Pensacola to [00:54:36] Miami. And when I really got to travel [00:54:39] these hollowedout places that were once [00:54:41] teameming with life, booming with [00:54:43] industry, I saw how detached that world [00:54:45] was from this Bloomberg terminal where I [00:54:48] had seen GDP and inflation and consumer [00:54:50] spending. Yes. and said, you know, I I [00:54:53] respect President Trump, but when I hear [00:54:56] about another trillion dollars coming in [00:54:59] from Nvidia, I guess the obvious [00:55:00] question is, how does that help a single [00:55:02] dad who lost his job 5 years ago and [00:55:04] hasn't been able to get back on his [00:55:05] feet? What are we optimizing for? Is the [00:55:08] goal GDP or is the goal as I think my [00:55:11] friend Nathan Hobbleto from from new [00:55:13] founding says is the goal the I think [00:55:15] the ultimate economic statistic these [00:55:17] days which is what percentage of [00:55:18] 30-year-old men own their home and are [00:55:22] married if you think about your entire [00:55:24] economic policy framework around that [00:55:26] question and I do [00:55:28] >> right and so if the question is will we [00:55:30] build this AI data center I don't know [00:55:32] does it help 30-year-old men get married [00:55:34] or buy their home the answer would [00:55:36] obviously be No, because it employs 50 [00:55:39] people who are all foreign laborers for [00:55:41] the most part, that doesn't help. But if [00:55:44] we're going to revitalize citrus here in [00:55:46] Florida, if we're going to actually [00:55:48] build out local businesses and help [00:55:51] people get on their feet and create [00:55:52] local, great paying jobs and end the [00:55:53] H-1B scam and ban Blackstone, if we [00:55:56] focus on those economic policies with [00:55:58] the end goal being 30-year-old men are [00:56:01] more likely on the margin to buy a home [00:56:03] and get married as a result of this [00:56:05] policy, then sign me up. And so my [00:56:07] distortion was look, I spent much of my [00:56:09] 20s going to events by the Brookings [00:56:11] Institution and AEI and heritage and [00:56:14] learning about the economy through that [00:56:15] vantage point. And so guilty is charged. [00:56:18] I think my views really I voted for [00:56:20] Trump proudly in 2016. I've always been [00:56:23] a Republican for whatever that's worth [00:56:24] quite literally since since high school [00:56:26] and I registered to vote in junior high [00:56:28] school. Didn't vote junior year high [00:56:29] school. I don't want anyone to think I'm [00:56:30] committing voter fraud. But [00:56:32] >> you're not the only one. [00:56:35] But my views I think [00:56:39] if I were to give one reason I think X [00:56:42] and everyone talks about X but I want to [00:56:44] talk about it in a very specific way to [00:56:46] my life. I think it's hard to watch [00:56:48] something and get really redpilled or [00:56:51] nationalist pill. I think you have to [00:56:53] have a steady stream of objective [00:56:55] factual information. [00:56:56] >> Yeah. [00:56:57] >> For me and my grandma that was your [00:56:58] monologues in 2020 quite literally and [00:57:01] we bonded over those. Um, for me the [00:57:04] last year or so it's been following AF [00:57:05] Post, this exac account that just puts [00:57:07] out 30, 40 posts a day. Kind of punchy, [00:57:09] kind of funny, but really factually [00:57:11] grounded news about what's happening. [00:57:13] Whether it's a company announcing H1B [00:57:15] hires, and they editorialize in the [00:57:17] sense that if Amazon announces that [00:57:19] they're laying off 30,000 people, they [00:57:21] won't just print that headline like the [00:57:22] Wall Street Journal editorial board [00:57:24] will, those globalist shills. They will [00:57:26] print that headline, but also [00:57:27] contextualize it by saying that Amazon [00:57:29] also just brought on 10,000 H1Bs. [00:57:32] So, they have no issue firing our [00:57:34] people, [00:57:36] but they will bring on foreign labor and [00:57:39] not apologize for it. And so, when [00:57:41] accounts like AF Post actually give us [00:57:42] the full context around something, which [00:57:44] the New York Times, the Wall Street [00:57:45] Journal would never do, I really [00:57:47] appreciate that. I think for me on [00:57:52] on the issue which I get the biggest [00:57:54] push back on is Israel, right? How you [00:57:57] you wrote for Barry Weiss, you wrote for [00:57:58] the Free Press. I wrote a article about [00:58:00] high school debate going woke in 2023, [00:58:02] which I'm really proud of. It was the [00:58:03] basis for my nonprofit really growing to [00:58:05] the next level because there were quite [00:58:08] literally high school debate tournaments [00:58:10] that were taxpayer funded. Here in [00:58:11] Florida, they were told a young black [00:58:13] girl before a speech about President [00:58:14] Biden's foreign policy track record that [00:58:16] if she mentioned Donald Trump's name, [00:58:18] she would be disqualified in in a public [00:58:21] school. We had we had one judge in [00:58:24] writing saying in writing, Tucker, [00:58:27] I am a Marxist Leninist Mauist, and if [00:58:31] you criticize any of the following [00:58:33] subjects, you are automatically [00:58:35] disqualified. One judge went so far as [00:58:37] to say again in writing, not hearsay, [00:58:40] literally in writing. I'm comfortable [00:58:41] writing that. Yeah. [00:58:42] >> Which tells everything about the world [00:58:43] of high school debate in academia. But [00:58:45] it's really personal to me because high [00:58:46] school debate changed my life and it [00:58:47] always was a marketplace of ideas until [00:58:49] this guy named Trump came down the [00:58:50] escalator. [00:58:51] >> One judge said, "If we're debating [00:58:53] immigration and you refer to them as [00:58:56] illegal, I will end the debate, give you [00:58:59] the loss, and lecture you, lecture you [00:59:01] because I will not have you making the [00:59:02] debate space unsafe. [00:59:07] And so, you know, I cold emailed, cold [00:59:10] called Barry Weiss because I knew the [00:59:12] free press was kind of in this business [00:59:13] of publishing edgy pieces about how [00:59:16] institutions had been hijacked. And this [00:59:17] was in 2023. And I said, "Hey, I have [00:59:19] this crazy story. I'm a former high [00:59:21] school debate champion. I have this [00:59:22] crazy story about how high school debate [00:59:24] has gone woke and my solution to it, [00:59:25] which is my nonprofit." And she [00:59:27] published it and it went bonkers. And [00:59:29] so, I think people are looking at that [00:59:30] and saying, "Well, you're aligned with [00:59:31] Barry Weiss." And I think to their to [00:59:33] their credit to that thing, I did put [00:59:35] out a post when her book came out about [00:59:37] anti-semitism because after October 7th, [00:59:40] I think like a lot of people, I saw what [00:59:41] was happening on college campuses and [00:59:43] said that's wrong. Not because it was [00:59:45] exclusively focused on Jewish students, [00:59:46] but any black lesbian with red hair [00:59:49] running into a math class saying like, [00:59:51] "Free Palestine and white men need to [00:59:53] apologize for the alleged sins of their [00:59:54] ancestors." That's wrong. I guess I was [00:59:57] led to believe that that was all part of [00:59:58] this anti-semitism thing. I called it [01:00:01] out thinking it was anti-semitism, but [01:00:03] really it was anti-Americanism. It was [01:00:05] anti-Christianism. [01:00:06] >> Well, that's for sure. [01:00:07] >> And my views on Israel changed in for [01:00:10] two reasons. I was invited on one of [01:00:12] these paid trips to Israel as a young [01:00:13] business professional. And I very [01:00:15] quickly found out what it was. It was a [01:00:17] propaganda trip. And what I was told [01:00:18] that I couldn't go certain places on my [01:00:21] own or had to follow a very simple [01:00:23] script when I left about what I would be [01:00:26] I'd have to clear my experiences [01:00:28] >> to share them online. Yeah. And I said, [01:00:30] "I'm not doing that. I'm not I'm happy [01:00:32] to go to a foreign country, but I'm not [01:00:33] doing it on your dime and have to parrot [01:00:36] out some script that was approved by [01:00:37] Apac." That was the first straw where I [01:00:39] kind of became a little bit more [01:00:40] skeptical. But there was this young man [01:00:42] named Muhammad Ibrahim. He's a [01:00:44] 16-year-old kid from right here in [01:00:46] Florida, and he went to visit family in [01:00:49] the West Bank last February, and he was [01:00:53] accused without any evidence of throwing [01:00:55] a rock at an IDF vehicle. didn't hurt [01:00:58] anybody, but he was accused of it. So, [01:01:00] as a result of that accusation, he was [01:01:02] put in an Israeli military prison [01:01:04] without any due process, no trial. For [01:01:06] eight months, he lost 27 pounds and [01:01:08] contracted scabies. And I committed the [01:01:10] capital crime. Wait, wait. Is he Is he [01:01:13] an American citizen? [01:01:14] >> Yes. [01:01:15] >> How can they How can a proxy state that [01:01:18] we pay for imprison an American citizen [01:01:21] without due process for 8 months? It's a [01:01:25] great question. And you know to the [01:01:27] folks on the other side I would say I'm [01:01:28] going to hold Israel to the same [01:01:29] standard you want me to hold Israel to [01:01:31] that you say they're the only democracy [01:01:32] in the Middle East while democracies are [01:01:33] underpinned by a basic adherence to the [01:01:35] rule of law and you don't get to take [01:01:38] anyone but least of all our citizens and [01:01:40] who are teenagers and imprison them for [01:01:43] 8 months. And then Randy fine that was [01:01:44] half of the point of his call was to [01:01:46] call me anti-semitic. He said well you [01:01:48] didn't tweet about the hostages enough. [01:01:50] And I said, "Randy, what would have been [01:01:51] the correct number of tweets on the [01:01:52] hostages that have given me license to [01:01:54] talk about this young American citizen?" [01:01:56] But because he's a Muslim, because he's [01:01:59] a Muslim, to them, he is a secondass [01:02:02] citizen. I said, "Look, I don't care [01:02:03] what he is. He's an American citizen. He [01:02:05] grew up 2 and 1/2 hours from where I [01:02:08] did." I went and met with the family and [01:02:10] I put out a video that I actually texted [01:02:11] the president directly and I said, "We [01:02:13] have to do something about this." [01:02:18] >> Yeah. Um, one of the PR principles I'll [01:02:20] never give up is you shouldn't be [01:02:22] allowed to come here and import your [01:02:24] disgusting little ethnic conflicts into [01:02:26] my country and make them the focus of my [01:02:27] foreign policy. And I would say that to [01:02:29] any any any immigrant, Cuba, Venezuela, [01:02:32] Israel, doesn't matter. You may have had [01:02:34] a thousand-year war with some other [01:02:36] tribe, but that's not our problem. And [01:02:38] we don't do that here. And um, and I [01:02:41] think the Muslim hate Muslim, you know, [01:02:45] >> that's only what that's about. Right. [01:02:47] Exactly. And my dad showed me a video [01:02:49] while we were on the way over here of a [01:02:52] black pastor who I think rightly focused [01:02:55] on the one nation under God and our [01:02:57] pledge of allegiance. [01:02:59] >> And you think about that for a moment. [01:03:01] If you come here and to truly pledge [01:03:04] your allegiance to our flag, it means [01:03:06] you are committing to the one singular [01:03:09] nation. of course, [01:03:11] >> not to import a generational, [01:03:14] multi-generational [01:03:15] feud between different nations. So when [01:03:18] you come here, whether you're Jewish, [01:03:19] Muslim, it doesn't matter. And you say [01:03:21] and you stand for that pledge, and it's [01:03:24] sad that we don't do that in our schools [01:03:26] anymore, I'll change that as governor as [01:03:27] well, that it is a basic precondition [01:03:30] that if you go to a public school that [01:03:32] you do attest that we are one nation [01:03:34] under God. That's not really debatable. [01:03:37] And so I think it's important because if [01:03:39] you've got different the Haitians and [01:03:41] the Dominicans hate each other for some [01:03:43] reason, there's a feud going on with [01:03:45] different Muslim groups and this and all [01:03:47] of that. And I say, look, if you're [01:03:49] going to come here at a at a minimum, [01:03:51] you have to commit to the whole one [01:03:53] nation thing. [01:03:54] >> At at an absolute minimum, and I can't [01:03:56] think of a better way, and maybe that's [01:03:58] why there's this this insistence, this [01:04:00] reluctance, they're so loath to actually [01:04:03] stand for our pledge. I always thought [01:04:05] of it, Tucker, as they were trying to be [01:04:07] righteous and it was kind of like their [01:04:09] version of bending the knee, right? It's [01:04:11] they actually don't believe in what the [01:04:13] pledge for at all. It's not like, well, [01:04:16] we don't want to be compelled into [01:04:17] something or we don't believe in [01:04:18] chauvinism or or whatever. It is quite [01:04:21] literally they don't adhere to what the [01:04:24] pledge represents principally one [01:04:28] nation. one. And I don't care what that [01:04:30] nation you came from is. When you come [01:04:32] here and you stand for that pledge, you [01:04:34] must adhere to that principle. Whether [01:04:36] that nation you left was Israel to serve [01:04:37] in a foreign military. You don't get to [01:04:39] have dual citizenship. You don't get to [01:04:41] advocate for another country's interests [01:04:43] over ours. Like these are not crazy [01:04:46] ideas. These are like any nation would [01:04:48] enforce those ideas, right? Because [01:04:52] >> and just go to South America. Imagine, [01:04:54] you know, my mom's from Colombia [01:04:56] and I spent summers going there. I don't [01:04:59] of course consider myself a Colombian. [01:05:00] I'm a proud American. My mom is as well. [01:05:04] But [01:05:05] can you like going to a Colombian just [01:05:08] even something as innocuous as a they [01:05:09] call it football, but a soccer game. Can [01:05:11] you imagine going to a Colombian soccer [01:05:13] game and not standing for the national [01:05:16] anthem? [01:05:18] >> And like whether you disagreed with what [01:05:20] was in the men's room, right? Right. [01:05:22] with some Supreme Court decision or [01:05:25] whether you had a different view of [01:05:26] abort or whatever. Like to not stand for [01:05:30] our national anthem to to affirm the [01:05:32] very ideals that set this country into [01:05:34] motion is to hold the most vile form of [01:05:38] contempt for this nation and her people. [01:05:40] >> Exactly. [01:05:42] >> Damn. I can see why they hate you. Um so [01:05:45] can you win? [01:05:47] >> Pardon my ignorance. I mean, I just I [01:05:49] Florida politics is so corrupt that I [01:05:51] just try and stay far away from it. But [01:05:54] what do you think? I think so. I really [01:05:57] do. So, I think I probably shouldn't [01:05:59] share inside baseball, but let me let me [01:06:00] do that. I think what has to happen very [01:06:02] simply is I'm not going to outra him. [01:06:06] I'm not going to outspend him. But you [01:06:08] know what? Neither did Trump to Kamla. [01:06:10] Neither did Trump to Hillary. [01:06:12] >> No. True. And so I think this is going [01:06:14] to ultimately we are in an attention [01:06:15] economy and the attention is going to go [01:06:18] to the person who can connect and show [01:06:20] up and earn the trust of voters. You [01:06:23] don't get to earn the trust of voters in [01:06:24] that Fox News studio in Washington DC. [01:06:26] >> Uh no [01:06:27] >> Byron Donald is in DC 4 days out of a [01:06:29] week. This is my state. I live here. My [01:06:31] my dad grew up here. My grandfather [01:06:33] taught here. My great-grandfather ran a [01:06:35] hotel on Fort Lauderdale Beach here. [01:06:37] This is my home and I'm not going to let [01:06:39] it be stolen from anyone. Least of all, [01:06:41] Byron Donald's and his donors. And so [01:06:43] what I've already announced, Tucker, is [01:06:45] that over the next 3 months, I'm going [01:06:46] to visit all 67 counties. In just 5 [01:06:49] weeks, I've visited 12. I'll visit every [01:06:51] single state college. And proud to break [01:06:53] the news here. I'm doing a statewide [01:06:55] Waffle House tour. This is the staple of [01:06:58] Florida. I'm going to every single [01:06:59] Waffle House to meet voters where they [01:07:01] are. They deserve to see a governor [01:07:03] hands-on, to ask him questions. Heck, if [01:07:05] they want to yell at me, debate with me, [01:07:06] that's fine. I am never never going to [01:07:09] shy away from the people that I'm asking [01:07:11] to hire me. [01:07:12] >> Fat. [01:07:13] >> I just get the bacon. [01:07:15] >> I get a bacon and a large coke. Good [01:07:17] call. Good call. I remember Jeb Bush [01:07:19] when he ran in 2016. I traveled with him [01:07:21] for a while. He was going no carb and he [01:07:24] lost at the end of course in I think [01:07:27] South Carolina and we were in a diner [01:07:28] together in South Carolina and he [01:07:30] whatever his many faults he could be [01:07:32] kind of funny and he's like no I'm I'm [01:07:34] getting the Blu-ray pancakes I don't [01:07:35] care it's over and just immediately [01:07:39] excuse me um so you think [01:07:43] your money is going to come from where? [01:07:45] >> Small dollar donors. [01:07:46] >> Yeah, you're going to need it cuz I mean [01:07:47] you haven't said a single thing that [01:07:49] it's going to attract Ken Griffin to [01:07:50] your campaign. Fair. [01:07:52] >> I think so. [01:07:53] >> Yeah. [01:07:54] >> Look, I I think that I'm I'm always [01:07:56] meeting open to meeting with donors, but [01:07:58] it's on the basic precondition that you [01:08:00] are donating in the to the campaign that [01:08:01] already exists. There's no influence on [01:08:03] the campaign whatsoever. And I I would [01:08:05] invite people to hold my feet to the [01:08:08] fire on that one. I think the biggest [01:08:10] thing though is if you just look at [01:08:14] what the turning point has been for [01:08:16] Florida politics, uh we had an a [01:08:18] commissioner here in 2018 named Adam [01:08:20] Putnham. He was the establishment [01:08:22] darling. A very good guy. [01:08:23] >> Yeah, I remember him well. [01:08:25] >> His family's been here for a very, very [01:08:26] long time. Wellrespected family here in [01:08:29] Florida. And then this guy named Ronda [01:08:31] Santis comes on the scene. And there's a [01:08:34] lot of twist and turns, but that [01:08:36] election in 2018 was really decided by [01:08:39] the Fox News primary debate in the [01:08:42] summer of 2018 where it was Ron and Adam [01:08:46] on stage for an hour and a half [01:08:48] unfiltered. No handlers, no donors, just [01:08:50] 2 and a2 million voters watching at [01:08:53] home. I think if you put me on that [01:08:56] debate stage, and I'll I'll be in this [01:08:57] race all the way to the end. When we get [01:08:59] to that debate stage, I will end Byron [01:09:01] Donald's career, and I will show that my [01:09:03] vision for my state that I've known for [01:09:05] four generations, our family has known [01:09:07] is the right vision. I view this as a [01:09:08] fork in the road. Do you want old [01:09:10] Florida or do you want new Florida? If [01:09:12] you want AI data centers, if you want [01:09:13] what Byron Donald says, which is he [01:09:15] wants to make Florida the financial [01:09:16] capital of the world, if you want that, [01:09:18] that's the new Florida vision. But if [01:09:20] you like our state just the way she is, [01:09:21] if you want to go back to the way things [01:09:23] were 10, 15 years ago, cattle, citrus, [01:09:25] space, a, if you want to end the [01:09:27] overdevelopment that has destroyed our [01:09:29] communities, pull back the sprawl, I'm [01:09:31] running for governor, and I'd be honored [01:09:33] to have your vote. You really think he's [01:09:35] going to debate you? [01:09:36] >> I think he has to. [01:09:38] >> Really? [01:09:38] >> I think he has to. What about this? So, [01:09:41] there's a lieutenant governor. I didn't [01:09:42] even know he existed until I saw a clip [01:09:44] from him that was so over the top. His [01:09:46] name is Jay Collins. I think it was so [01:09:49] shocking that I sent it to someone who [01:09:51] works here and say, "Is this AI? This [01:09:53] can't be real." And he was basically [01:09:54] saying, "You don't have the right to [01:09:56] criticize Israel." [01:09:57] >> Yeah. Like, free speech does not exist [01:09:59] in the United States. Was that real? [01:10:01] >> It was real. [01:10:02] >> Who is that guy? [01:10:03] >> He's the newly appointed lieutenant [01:10:05] governor. He's been on the job for about [01:10:06] 4 and a half months. [01:10:07] >> Am I misstating what he said? No, he he [01:10:09] he quite literally started off by saying [01:10:12] you do not have a right to hurt people [01:10:14] with your words, [01:10:16] >> which is which is almost like a true or [01:10:17] false question in fifth grade civics [01:10:19] about the First Amendment, but it's also [01:10:20] like the most left-wing thing you could [01:10:22] ever say. It's like the MPCs, the people [01:10:25] I spent my entire 15 years at Fox [01:10:27] railing against these sensitive people [01:10:30] who want to claim that words are [01:10:31] violence, stochastic violence or [01:10:33] whatever. I mean, this was like a that's [01:10:35] the whole ideology of the left. I can't [01:10:37] believe this guy's a he's real [01:10:39] >> a Republican so-called. He is what they [01:10:42] call the transgender Republicans. They [01:10:43] identify as such, but they're not [01:10:45] really. And when someone actually goes [01:10:47] out there and says you don't have a [01:10:48] right to hurt people with your words, [01:10:52] I mean, Timmy Timmy, true or false, does [01:10:54] the first amendment give you a right to [01:10:56] hurt people with if you failed that in [01:10:58] fifth grade civics, they would hold you [01:10:59] back a year as governor. I would hold [01:11:00] anybody back who failed that question. [01:11:02] You know, it was funny. He put out a a [01:11:04] comment about Venezuela and Maduro. He [01:11:06] was very critical of Maduro, as I think [01:11:08] a lot of people should be, [01:11:09] >> for what he's done to the country. But I [01:11:11] I I responded and I think proudly [01:11:12] ratioed him. I said, "With all due [01:11:14] respect, Lieutenant Governor Collins, [01:11:15] I'm formally filing a complaint with the [01:11:17] Office of Hate Crime Speech for [01:11:19] insulting Maduro with your harmful [01:11:21] words, right?" And and that's what it's [01:11:24] come to. And so when you ask yourself [01:11:26] what what vision for the Republican [01:11:28] party do we want? I actually think [01:11:30] everyone's talking about 2028. 2026 here [01:11:33] in Florida, we are the formidable [01:11:35] Republicans. [01:11:35] >> I agree with that. I agree with that. [01:11:37] >> This is going to be the proxy of what [01:11:38] the party looks like. And I don't know [01:11:40] what the party's going to look like in [01:11:41] 28. [01:11:42] >> But if you've got me on the ballot, [01:11:44] Byron Donald's on the ballot, Jay [01:11:45] Collins, I don't know what he's going to [01:11:46] do. [01:11:47] >> Okay. So, Lieutenant Governor hasn't [01:11:48] decided [01:11:49] >> decided what he wants to do. He's still [01:11:50] checking with his wife, apparently. [01:11:51] Quite literally, that's what he said. He [01:11:52] just keeps checking with his wife. [01:11:53] >> Actually, [01:11:54] >> actually, yeah. And so this is a guy, [01:11:56] not to go on a big tangent, but this is [01:11:58] a guy who actually reached out to my own [01:11:59] uncle, like my actual uncle, like my my [01:12:01] dad's over there, my father's brother, [01:12:04] and tried to convince him to get me to [01:12:06] drop out. And so my uncle was calling me [01:12:08] all of a sudden on a Saturday. He hasn't [01:12:10] spoken to me in a while for an hour and [01:12:11] a half on the phone saying, "Jay Collins [01:12:13] this, Jay Collins that." It's weird, but [01:12:15] the governor, our governor, Ronda [01:12:17] Santis, is not endorsing Jay Collins. [01:12:19] He's certainly not endorsing Byron [01:12:20] Donald's. And this is a wideopen race as [01:12:22] far as I'm concerned. made the best [01:12:24] person win. And the best person, Tucker, [01:12:26] is not the person who looks best on Fox. [01:12:28] Although, I don't think Byron looks all [01:12:30] that good on Fox. [01:12:30] >> You're not getting invited on Fox. I'm [01:12:32] just telling you that right now. Sorry, [01:12:33] they're not having you. Well, thank you [01:12:36] for having me here today. [01:12:37] >> Of course. No, I worked there. I know [01:12:39] they are not inviting you on Fox. But I [01:12:41] think if you look at and I on the way [01:12:44] over here, we stopped at uh Chipotle. We [01:12:46] call it Chapatle in our family because [01:12:48] we like to be funny. [01:12:49] >> That's the spirit. We say we go to Japat [01:12:50] and we say can I have the polo bull with [01:12:51] the fagitis [01:12:53] but I I was in Japle and a young man by [01:12:57] the name of Aiden he's 22 years old he [01:12:58] works for Charlotte County in the [01:13:00] maintenance division and he comes up to [01:13:02] me says are are you James Fishbach and I [01:13:04] said yeah I have never voted in any [01:13:07] election not even in a primary you have [01:13:10] my vote I'm switching over to the [01:13:11] Republican party to vote for you on [01:13:13] August 18th I think and I don't want to [01:13:16] take credit for our vision it's a vision [01:13:17] that's been honestly I've watched a lot [01:13:19] your stuff, read a lot of what's [01:13:20] happened in this space. It's one that I [01:13:23] believe in. I believe it's the only way [01:13:24] forward for my state and I think there's [01:13:27] a real hunger because with with whatever [01:13:29] you want to say about Byron Donald [01:13:30] establishment money, even the polls that [01:13:33] have come out about him, they still show [01:13:35] 54% roughly of the electorate still [01:13:38] undecided. And this is a guy who's been [01:13:40] in the race now for 11 months, who's got [01:13:42] $45 million, who's on Fox News three [01:13:44] times a week, regurgitating the same GOP [01:13:47] slop, and he still has half of the [01:13:49] electorate undecided about whether to [01:13:50] vote for him. So, I'm in this race [01:13:52] because I think my state needs someone [01:13:54] to step up and I want to earn people's [01:13:56] support and being able to do. [01:13:57] >> When is the primary? [01:13:58] >> August 18th. It's a closed primary. So, [01:14:00] the cool thing about this is you got [01:14:02] until July 20th. If you're an [01:14:03] independent, you used to be a [01:14:04] Republican. And if you're one of the [01:14:05] Dixie Democrats we've got all over the [01:14:06] state who may have voted Republican [01:14:09] recently but hasn't changed their party [01:14:11] affiliation, you can do that online for [01:14:12] free at the Florida DMV website. Just [01:14:14] Google change voter registration in [01:14:16] Florida. Takes you 5 minutes. That now [01:14:18] gives you the ability to show up on [01:14:20] August 18th because you know this [01:14:21] Tucker, this is a red state through and [01:14:23] through. We haven't had a Democrat [01:14:24] governor in 30 years. We may never have [01:14:26] one again. And so the election, if you [01:14:28] wait till November, you're literally [01:14:29] allowing the system to disenfranchise. [01:14:31] Totally right. If if I think if we lived [01:14:32] in New York City, we probably would be [01:14:35] registered Democrats because you [01:14:36] otherwise would not. I [01:14:38] >> lived in DC for my whole life. I was [01:14:39] always a registered Democrat cuz I [01:14:40] wanted to vote for the least crazy [01:14:42] Democrat in the primary cuz I live [01:14:44] there. It mattered to me. [01:14:45] >> And so my pitch to to a public school [01:14:48] teacher is we may not agree on [01:14:51] everything, but if you want someone [01:14:52] who's going to fight for the dignity of [01:14:53] American citizens, someone who's going [01:14:55] to make your job easier as a teacher, [01:14:56] when we have 1.4 four million illegals [01:14:58] in our state, many of whom, all of whom [01:15:00] have children enrolled in our public [01:15:02] schools. Met with a teacher a couple [01:15:03] weeks ago in Southwest Florida, not too [01:15:05] far from here. And she broke down crying [01:15:08] because her ninth grade class had 20 [01:15:12] students, seven of whom did not speak [01:15:13] English. They're illegals. And so, [01:15:16] executive order number four is to remove [01:15:20] all illegal immigrant children from our [01:15:22] school. I had someone ask me recently, [01:15:24] "Isn't that cruel?" And I said, "No, [01:15:26] ma'am. What's cruel is to force American [01:15:29] citizens to dilute their education to [01:15:31] take attention away from a teacher who [01:15:34] has the second lowest teacher pay on [01:15:36] average in any part of the country and [01:15:38] say you have to teach half your class in [01:15:40] English and the other half in broken [01:15:42] creole or Spanish for people who just [01:15:45] got here. That's what's cruel and that [01:15:48] is what is vile. And actually, it's [01:15:50] weird because the Supreme Court in 1982 [01:15:53] found in Plyer Veto rather disastrously [01:15:55] that illegal immigrant children actually [01:15:57] have a 14th amendment constitutional [01:15:59] right to attend public school. And so I [01:16:02] would proudly, as Mississippi did, [01:16:03] challenge Roie Wade, I would proudly, as [01:16:05] governor, pass an executive order to [01:16:07] challenge that decision. And I know we [01:16:09] would win in the Supreme Court. Whether [01:16:10] it be 54 or 63 would depend on how she's [01:16:13] feeling that day, though. [01:16:16] >> James Fishbach, that was great. That was [01:16:18] great. And Godspeed. [01:16:20] >> Thank you. [01:16:20] >> Thanks.