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[00:00:04] So, you're running for governor of Iowa, [00:00:07] and we can get into the whole politics [00:00:08] of that uh maybe later, but I'm [00:00:10] interested in why, [00:00:13] you know, I think um I think the the [00:00:16] primary catalyst for me doing this was I [00:00:19] believe we are losing our culture and [00:00:21] our heritage as a people. That's my [00:00:22] honest belief. And I believe it's not [00:00:24] just in Iowa, it's across the country. [00:00:27] But when I look around and see people [00:00:29] that were running for office, it was all [00:00:31] about policy. It's all about here's this [00:00:33] tax rate or you know this regulation [00:00:35] needs to be changed and I just thought [00:00:38] no one is standing up to say we have to [00:00:40] get the culture right first. We have to [00:00:43] step in and say what does it mean to be [00:00:45] an American? What does it mean to be an [00:00:46] Ian? And are the traditions and the [00:00:50] heritage and the value of our ancestors [00:00:52] important to us? [00:00:54] And that's the in the deepest part of my [00:00:57] heart what motivates me in something [00:00:59] like this. I actually don't want to be a [00:01:01] politician. I bet I've not had interest [00:01:04] in it. You know, I uh spent a lot of my [00:01:06] life in the private sector and building [00:01:08] schools and uh I have a I have a pretty [00:01:11] good life. I have a great family and a [00:01:13] wife who loves me and supports me. Uh [00:01:16] but you know in um you know uh 1850 my [00:01:20] family came over from Germany and great [00:01:22] great grandpa built our farmhouse uh and [00:01:25] we had that same house on this piece of [00:01:27] land in Iowa until 2005 [00:01:30] and my great-grandmother passed away and [00:01:32] I can still remember my grandma called [00:01:34] me and she said, "Zack, you wouldn't [00:01:36] want anything to this old farmhouse, [00:01:37] would you?" And I had, you know, [00:01:39] graduated from high school in Iowa. I [00:01:40] was off in college and I said, "No, I'm [00:01:42] I'm there's something better out here. [00:01:44] I'm I'm off to get something to find [00:01:46] something better. [00:01:48] And then uh a number of years later, I [00:01:50] was driving by to see my other [00:01:52] great-grandmother who lived to be 103. [00:01:54] Um and I drove by the old farm and I [00:01:57] just drove up. I said, "Hey, could I [00:01:58] take a look around?" And they said, [00:02:00] "Yeah." I said, "You know, my great [00:02:01] great grandpa built this. He was a [00:02:03] thirdass passenger on the SS Wand coming [00:02:06] from Hamburg, Germany as a 14-year-old. [00:02:08] He was in the stowage. That's where he [00:02:10] traveled over to America. and uh he [00:02:13] became a carpenter and then earned [00:02:15] enough money to buy the farm and build [00:02:16] it with his uncle. And I said, "Hey, if [00:02:19] you're ever thinking about selling it, [00:02:20] will you please let me know and it I [00:02:23] just didn't think anything coming that [00:02:24] that time." But uh a couple years later, [00:02:26] they called me and said, "Hey, we're [00:02:28] going to sell this farm. Would you [00:02:29] want?" I'm like, "Yes." I don't know how [00:02:30] I'm going to do it, but uh I end up [00:02:32] scraping together enough money to get an [00:02:35] FHA loan, a down payment, and I bought [00:02:38] the farm. And then since that time in [00:02:41] 2014, I've been working to re rebuild it [00:02:44] and restore it. And is the house still [00:02:46] there? [00:02:46] >> House is still there. You know, when I [00:02:48] bought it, it was, you know, covered in [00:02:49] vinyl. It it it had been completely [00:02:51] changed on the outside. Um [00:02:54] >> Yeah. 150 years is a long time. [00:02:55] >> Yeah. And and being completely changed [00:02:58] the outside. But I went to my my dad's [00:03:01] cousin Peter and he just kind of had the [00:03:04] repository of great grandma's photos. [00:03:06] And so I got this pallet of boxes of [00:03:08] photos and I spent I'm not I'm not [00:03:11] kidding hundreds of hours going through [00:03:12] photos and I was looking for every photo [00:03:14] I could find of this old farmhouse. And [00:03:16] I'll tell you to anybody who wants to be [00:03:18] radicalized on what we've lost as a [00:03:22] culture, spend that much time going [00:03:24] through your great-grandmother's photos. [00:03:26] >> Yeah. [00:03:26] >> And you'll realize the community, the [00:03:29] traditions, the pride. [00:03:32] I've done it. [00:03:33] >> A lot of it's gone. [00:03:35] It's unrecognizable. [00:03:36] >> unrecognizable. And so I did that and uh [00:03:39] I found every single picture I could [00:03:40] find and I put the house back together [00:03:42] board by board, counted every single [00:03:44] piece of sighting, make sure it matched, [00:03:46] and now we live in the home that was [00:03:49] built by my great great-grandfather. Um, [00:03:52] and I I tell people I didn't do that so [00:03:54] I could run for governor. I mean, the I [00:03:56] started doing this over 10 years ago. [00:03:59] I did it because I wanted my children to [00:04:01] understand their story and that their [00:04:04] heritage and their culture, what built [00:04:06] them, the man who built this house, who [00:04:10] I bet hoped someday my kids would live [00:04:12] in it. Yes. But knew he would never meet [00:04:15] them, that that story matters deeply. [00:04:20] And so that's what really got me into [00:04:22] this. you know, uh, I was not looking to [00:04:25] run for for this seat. And as I was [00:04:28] talking to my wife about this, the [00:04:30] current governor of Iowa, who by the way [00:04:32] has done a very good job. I mean, we're [00:04:35] likely other than Florida, maybe the one [00:04:37] of the most conservative states, and [00:04:39] she's done a great job at that. [00:04:40] >> He's a nice person. [00:04:41] >> Yeah. Um, you know, when um we were [00:04:46] looking at this, my wife said, you know, [00:04:47] the seat hasn't been open in 20 years. [00:04:50] And there are issues in our state that [00:04:52] are not dealing with taxes, that are not [00:04:54] dealing with regulations, that are [00:04:55] systemic, deep issues [00:04:58] that are really causing our people to be [00:05:01] hurt. [00:05:02] And I talk about them all the time. And [00:05:04] it was kind of from her this moment of [00:05:06] hey, [00:05:07] you know, put up or stop talking about [00:05:10] it because this is an opportunity to go [00:05:13] make real change. And so that's why I'm [00:05:15] running. [00:05:17] So you said there are systemic issues [00:05:18] that are not included in the normal [00:05:21] pallet of politician concerns, which [00:05:22] would be taxes and regulation. [00:05:24] >> How just in order of importance, can you [00:05:26] go through a few of them? Well, I think [00:05:29] you know I I've spent my life uh in [00:05:31] large part as an entrepreneur and uh in [00:05:33] businesses organization I've run or [00:05:35] started I have key metrics that I'm [00:05:37] tracking to know the health of my my [00:05:39] companies or the health of an [00:05:41] organization [00:05:42] you know I think I think on that list [00:05:44] for a state is the physical climate of [00:05:47] it that's no doubt that's part of it [00:05:49] like can people afford to live here yes [00:05:51] that's a big part of course but the [00:05:54] other there's other deeper issues that I [00:05:56] think are more long- term firm and focus [00:05:58] that we, you know, because of this like [00:06:00] constant news cycle of what's happening [00:06:02] right now that we all have to respond [00:06:04] to, which thank god I'm not running for [00:06:06] a federal office because it's like never [00:06:08] ending and always changing. [00:06:11] But because of um because of that, often [00:06:14] we're distracted or our eyes are taken [00:06:16] off the ball purposefully from the big [00:06:17] issues. And a couple of them are this. [00:06:20] Iowa's number four in the nation for net [00:06:22] out migration of our kids 25 to 29. [00:06:25] >> Yeah. How can you build a state if your [00:06:27] people are leaving? [00:06:29] Important new people. Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:32] Yes, we can talk about that. Um, another [00:06:36] one would be, you know, 25% of our [00:06:38] farmlands now owned by out of state [00:06:40] investors and funds that don't live in [00:06:42] our state. So, our farmers who have had [00:06:45] this ancestral connection to the land [00:06:49] are now becoming tenants again. [00:06:50] something we left Germany in large part [00:06:53] for. [00:06:55] You know, just take a side quest here [00:06:58] for a second. I remember when I was [00:07:00] doing a lot of that research in my [00:07:01] family to understand a lot about the [00:07:04] history and uh and what drove them to [00:07:07] leave this homeland of theirs, you know, [00:07:09] cuz I always made up, you know, 3540% [00:07:11] German immigrants came over, very [00:07:13] industrious people, very family oriented [00:07:15] people, uh people that had pride in the [00:07:17] work that they do. objectively some of [00:07:20] the best people ever. I would I would [00:07:23] say that [00:07:23] >> I'm not one of them, but I just I I just [00:07:25] have noticed. [00:07:26] >> Oh, big on tradition and and um and big [00:07:30] on family and uh a lot of pride in where [00:07:33] they came from. So, what would motivate [00:07:35] people to leave? And you know, I think [00:07:37] the common answer we always heard was [00:07:38] well, it's religious persecution. And [00:07:41] so, I started to get interested in this [00:07:42] just to understand more what were the [00:07:45] real conditions. And I actually found [00:07:47] out that uh you know my family a lot of [00:07:50] Germans came over around 1850. [00:07:53] Well in 1848 in Germany [00:07:56] there was an attempted revolution [00:07:59] >> across across Europe. [00:08:00] >> Across Europe. Yes. And it was called [00:08:03] the 48ers. And what did they want? They [00:08:05] well they wanted to be able to own the [00:08:07] ground under their feet. They wanted [00:08:08] free speech. They didn't like slavery. [00:08:10] They had a lot of these you know now [00:08:12] what we call western ideals. [00:08:13] >> It was the end of feudalism. Right. [00:08:15] >> Yes. Right. And so what happened to [00:08:18] them? They were defeated. And so in [00:08:21] Germany when they're defeated, many of [00:08:22] them got exiled and then many others [00:08:24] just left. Well, what state came online [00:08:27] in 1846 was Iowa. And it was also very [00:08:30] agrarian just like where they came from. [00:08:33] And so many people came over. And I like [00:08:35] to talk about this that you know [00:08:40] uh one of the key points in Iowa's [00:08:43] history that I'm most proud of [00:08:46] is how Ians responded during the Civil [00:08:48] War. So, you know, uh we had the [00:08:51] Missouri Compromise. We had the Kansas [00:08:54] Nebraska Act. Um, and with that with [00:08:57] that decision of, you know, they sort of [00:08:58] get to decide whether or not they're [00:09:00] going to be free or slave, [00:09:03] there was a lot of wealthy landowning [00:09:06] elites that were rushing to the Midwest [00:09:08] to try to lobby to create slave states, [00:09:12] >> of course, [00:09:13] >> and this Iowa [00:09:15] >> plantations on the prairie, [00:09:16] >> right? And Iowa was not a part of this, [00:09:19] you know. Um, [00:09:21] but [00:09:23] one of my favorite stories in 1861, the [00:09:25] governor of Iowa, his name was uh, [00:09:26] Governor Samuel Kirkwood, he was on his [00:09:29] plow in his field when a messenger from [00:09:32] the Department of War brought a a [00:09:35] message on horseback to him and in it [00:09:37] the president said he needed to uh, put [00:09:39] together a company of 750 troops to be [00:09:43] ready in 2 weeks. And mind you, this is [00:09:46] 15 years after Iowa became a state. I [00:09:48] mean, we're in our infancy. [00:09:51] And he said, [00:09:53] 750 troops in two weeks. How can that be [00:09:55] done? And two weeks later, 10,000 Ians [00:09:58] had signed up. By the end of the Civil [00:10:00] War, more Ians fought in the Civil War [00:10:03] than any other state per capita. Why was [00:10:05] that? I believe and there's some [00:10:08] evidence of course I I read deeply in [00:10:10] this that they had just left a country [00:10:13] that they saw oppression in and they [00:10:16] fled that left everything and they were [00:10:19] saying this isn't going to happen here [00:10:21] and so I think when you talk about land [00:10:23] and you talk about now 25% of our land [00:10:26] is now owned by people that don't live [00:10:27] in our state they're not contributing to [00:10:29] our communities they don't go to the [00:10:31] football games they're not shopping on [00:10:32] Main Street it's a real generational [00:10:36] issue and I go to these auctions. I've [00:10:39] bid against many of these people. [00:10:41] >> Land auctions. [00:10:42] >> Oh yeah. And very often it's a farm [00:10:46] management company. The actual owner. We [00:10:48] don't know who they are. [00:10:50] We actually don't know who owns our land [00:10:52] in Iowa. There's not human level [00:10:54] disclosure that's required. [00:10:57] So you can own land in an LLC [00:11:00] and that LLC could be wholly owned by a [00:11:03] trust and all the state knows is that [00:11:06] the LLC owns the land. That's it. And so [00:11:10] we've gotten to this place where [00:11:13] just common courtesy or you know just [00:11:15] common tradition of knowing who your [00:11:17] neighbors are is not there anymore. [00:11:19] >> Well, it's impossible. [00:11:20] >> Yeah. in in in [00:11:24] can't find their names, it's kind of [00:11:25] hard to have a community. It's buried. [00:11:28] America's ranchers helped build this [00:11:30] country. For over 250 years, ranchers [00:11:33] fed America through droughts, wars, [00:11:35] pandemics, every other kind of chaos. [00:11:38] Our friends at Good Ranchers built their [00:11:40] company on that honorable legacy. Good [00:11:43] Ranchers is a meat company. It's 100% [00:11:45] committed to America. 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You [00:13:17] know, I I was my father was a 30-year [00:13:19] conservationist and a pastor. And um I [00:13:23] grew up like learning to love and [00:13:26] appreciate the place. I I tell I've said [00:13:28] this before, but you know, he [00:13:31] legitimately made me believe that every [00:13:33] sunset was made for me by God. Amen. we [00:13:35] would we'd be driving and say, "Look at [00:13:36] what God made for you." And I still [00:13:38] think to those things to this day of [00:13:40] just like those little pieces that made [00:13:42] me appreciate creation. And one of my [00:13:44] favorite clips from your show ever, ever [00:13:48] is when you were on with uh Bobby [00:13:49] Kennedy and he was having that [00:13:51] discussion about how nature is how we [00:13:53] connect deeply with God. [00:13:55] >> Yeah, it makes me emotional thinking [00:13:56] about it. I couldn't agree more. I sent [00:13:58] that to so many people and especially my [00:13:59] father because it it's true and it's [00:14:03] language we don't use anymore. [00:14:05] It brings you to a higher place and it [00:14:07] helps you understand like [00:14:09] >> this is much deeper than just who owns a [00:14:12] piece of land or what's happening. It's [00:14:14] it's actually like we are connected to [00:14:16] God through the land through his [00:14:19] creation. It's on every page of the [00:14:20] Bible from Genesis to Revelation. It's [00:14:22] there's a lot of nature. [00:14:24] >> It's what's what's the Garden of Eden [00:14:26] filled with? Trees, rivers, [00:14:29] >> animals. Right. Okay. [00:14:30] >> And all the parables that have to do [00:14:32] with that. Of course. So, so that of [00:14:34] course the that's a systemic issue and [00:14:36] let me say that that's been going on for [00:14:38] a long time and nobody's really talked [00:14:41] about it. You go to a cafe, every farmer [00:14:43] is talking about these things about [00:14:44] like, oh, you see the We had a piece of [00:14:46] land in Northwest Iowa uh recently go [00:14:48] for $32,000 an acre. Not development [00:14:51] land. [00:14:53] Okay. I'm interested I'm a land buyer. [00:14:55] I'm interested in land. I'm interested, [00:14:57] you know, and all that. [00:14:59] How do you get to $32,000 an acre even [00:15:02] for, you know, famously productive [00:15:04] farmland? Like, what is that? What's the [00:15:07] potential return on that? How did that [00:15:09] happen? [00:15:10] >> Well, let's just say commonly we'll go [00:15:12] to $20,000 an acre. That's fairly common [00:15:14] in Northwest Iowa. It's some of the best [00:15:16] land in the world. Bonkers. [00:15:17] >> It is. It is. And so, you know, look, PE [00:15:21] outside investors look at Iowa as as a [00:15:23] great investment because it's a solid [00:15:26] asset. [00:15:26] >> Yes. It's a hedge against the dollar of [00:15:27] course [00:15:28] >> and you get a dividend like you rent out [00:15:30] the land like and so one of the things I [00:15:33] I kind of complain or real pine about a [00:15:35] lot is that our land isn't an asset [00:15:37] class. It's actually was meant as the [00:15:40] inheritance for the sons and daughters [00:15:42] of our state to build their lives, their [00:15:44] communities, and their families. And [00:15:46] when they're tenants on that land and [00:15:48] they're paying high dollar rent, because [00:15:50] the only way you can justify high a high [00:15:52] uh price like that is very high rent. [00:15:55] um you you're stripping away a lot of go [00:16:00] back to say it's like kind of the [00:16:01] spiritual aspect of this and that land [00:16:04] is best when it's owned and farmed by [00:16:07] the same person. it. We know this. We [00:16:10] know this from if you own rental [00:16:12] properties or whatever it might be. Like [00:16:14] there's a connection of stewardship that [00:16:16] comes with that to know that I'm passing [00:16:18] this piece of ground on to my grandkids [00:16:20] and their kids and their kids and that's [00:16:22] what it should be. But that that is [00:16:24] being actively taken away in our state. [00:16:28] And so two other things that I I think [00:16:31] are big systemic issues that are on my [00:16:32] scorecard as I'd say is one is our [00:16:36] farmers are actively being exploited by [00:16:39] big egg companies. When I was growing up [00:16:41] uh born in Iowa, we had over 300 seed [00:16:46] and input companies, you know, [00:16:48] fertilizer and and agrochemical [00:16:50] companies that were selling to our [00:16:51] farmers. Today that number's three that [00:16:54] control 85% of the market. Over 90% of [00:16:58] seed technology is owned by two [00:17:00] companies. [00:17:01] >> Monsanto [00:17:02] >> actually it's uh Bayer and Corteva own [00:17:05] 90% of this of the uh which owns [00:17:08] Monsanto now. Yeah. [00:17:09] >> See technology. [00:17:10] >> No I of course but I forgot that [00:17:12] Monsanto doesn't actually exist anymore. [00:17:14] Does it? [00:17:14] >> I don't think so. [00:17:15] >> They changed the name. Yeah. It was [00:17:17] bought by Bear in Germany. [00:17:18] >> Yeah. They're they're sure mentioned a [00:17:20] lot in court still but yeah they're not [00:17:22] um they're not a company. [00:17:24] So if you look at the long-term trend [00:17:29] that anytime there's a rise in commodity [00:17:31] prices, these input costs go up even [00:17:33] though there's not a direct correlating [00:17:35] factor. You know, there's a study out of [00:17:38] the University of Illinois and this [00:17:40] study compared the cost of farming in [00:17:42] Brazil to the cost of farming in [00:17:45] Illinois, Iowa basically. And you have [00:17:49] to understand that the three big [00:17:50] companies in America that provide these [00:17:53] inputs are also the same three big [00:17:54] companies of Brazil. Bayer, Corteva, and [00:17:56] Sententa. [00:17:58] That study said that for growing corn [00:18:02] using the same application rate that [00:18:05] they're charging Brazilian farmers about [00:18:08] $150 less per acre than they are Iowa [00:18:11] farmers. How? [00:18:14] Well, the real answer is because they're [00:18:16] an unchecked monopoly and competition [00:18:18] doesn't exist. There's tacic collusion. [00:18:21] But he here's how it actually works. [00:18:24] They they have what they call [00:18:25] regionalbased pricing. [00:18:27] But what it really is is this. When they [00:18:30] look at uh their pricing, they base it [00:18:33] on the yield that you're going to [00:18:34] create. So let's say you have more [00:18:36] productive land, even though you're [00:18:38] using the same amount of product, [00:18:39] they're going to take more. you have [00:18:41] less productive land even though you use [00:18:43] the same amount of product, they're [00:18:44] going to take more. [00:18:46] It's [00:18:48] it's wrong, you know, and I will I will [00:18:51] give credit to Brooke Rollins and Donald [00:18:53] Trump and the administration. They're [00:18:54] talking about bringing antirust and and [00:18:57] investigating this with Department of [00:18:58] Justice. And one of the things I pledged [00:19:00] to do that if I'm governor of Iowa, I'm [00:19:03] going to lead the charge to bring [00:19:05] antitrust suits against these companies [00:19:07] that are exploiting our farmers because [00:19:10] they're taking every dollar they [00:19:12] possibly can. [00:19:14] And we're already on life support. I [00:19:16] mean, many many most farms are operating [00:19:19] at a loss right now. [00:19:22] And when you talk to farmers about this, [00:19:24] you do not and like I can't emphasize [00:19:27] this enough, you do not hear them talk [00:19:29] about tariffs. They're not. Matter of [00:19:31] fact, the price of soybeans this year [00:19:33] with the tariffs was higher than it was [00:19:35] last year before the tariffs. The change [00:19:38] came that the cost of growing went up. I [00:19:40] mean, the cost of the input products [00:19:42] that they're that they're using went up. [00:19:44] And so I I tell people all the time, the [00:19:47] tariffs are not the issue. [00:19:50] We have to get this unchecked monopoly [00:19:52] under in check and under control. [00:19:56] >> Obviously inputs are essential uh to [00:19:59] agriculture well to any creating [00:20:01] anything. Um one of them is diesel fuel. [00:20:05] Not a lot of movement there. But then [00:20:07] you have the products that you just [00:20:10] mentioned seeds and fertilizer. [00:20:14] Taking out seeds. Let's just focus on [00:20:15] fertilizer. What are the products like? [00:20:19] Well, um I mean it just depends on on [00:20:21] the most common product, you know, for [00:20:23] fertilizers in hydro ammonia. It's uh [00:20:26] used in the fall. It's where a lot of [00:20:28] lot of um the nitrogen comes from. But [00:20:30] then you have other products uh that [00:20:32] are, you know, uh you know, um products [00:20:36] from Earth, you know, potassium, pot [00:20:38] ash, uh those things. Uh but you look at [00:20:42] the the trend of the pricing in these [00:20:44] you know um I think it was five years [00:20:46] ago in the past five years nitrogen [00:20:48] fertilizers went up 150% and the price [00:20:51] of corn's down 2%. [00:20:54] So farmers are they're really being I [00:20:56] would say extorted in this process. 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And I was with [00:22:22] the ranch manager and um in a truck and [00:22:24] he said, "This is the truck we used to [00:22:26] spray Roundup." And I said, "People [00:22:29] using Roundup? I don't You know, I'm not [00:22:30] in the egg business. I thought Roundup [00:22:32] was bad. [00:22:34] >> Yeah. [00:22:34] >> Again, I'm I'm very ignorant, but I just [00:22:37] thought I didn't realize that people [00:22:38] were still spraying Roundup. He said, [00:22:40] "Oh, everyone sprays Roundup. Like, [00:22:41] everybody does." And we kind of don't [00:22:43] talk about it. And I'm like, "Hm, [00:22:45] I mean, is that I'm not attacking [00:22:47] Roundup specifically, but like are we [00:22:50] sure that these chemicals are all safe?" [00:22:52] Well, you know, well, Roundup is the [00:22:54] most uh high it's the most highly used [00:22:59] herbicide in the history of the country [00:23:00] or history of the world. [00:23:01] >> It's so effective. I mean, I've seen [00:23:03] >> it's been it's losing its effectiveness [00:23:04] greatly. It now has Oh, yeah. It has to [00:23:06] be Yeah. You'll have um different [00:23:08] mixtures now that'll go in because [00:23:10] they're we're getting Roundup resist [00:23:12] glyphosate resistant weeds and now [00:23:14] there's a high percentage of weeds have [00:23:16] glyphosate resistance. So, you know, you [00:23:18] know, I think in some ways the life [00:23:20] cycle of Roundup is is is kind of it's [00:23:24] going to be coming to an end on its own [00:23:25] at some point. Limited by nature. [00:23:26] >> It's limited by nature and new products [00:23:28] are coming out. But I will tell you this [00:23:30] >> when you talk about safety of products. [00:23:32] Well, let me back up and and just talk [00:23:34] about uh the companies. I mentioned the [00:23:36] three big companies that are controlling [00:23:37] the egg input market. Bayer, Cortevans, [00:23:39] and there's other ones, but [00:23:41] Bayer is a German company. [00:23:43] >> Yes, Corteva is an American company. top [00:23:47] shareholders of Black Rockck, Vanguard [00:23:49] and State Street of that company. But [00:23:51] Senta [00:23:53] is a wholly owned state enterprise of [00:23:56] the Chinese government actually [00:23:58] >> 100%. [00:23:59] So about somewhere on the on the uh end [00:24:02] of 5 million acres in our state [00:24:06] has chemicals and seed technology [00:24:10] from a company that's a wholly owned [00:24:12] company of the state of China, the [00:24:15] country of China. [00:24:17] So I mentioned that to say this. If you [00:24:19] talk to farmers about some of these [00:24:22] products and you know uh like I said [00:24:24] glyphosate or Roundup is you know very [00:24:27] ubiquitous to see used [00:24:29] but if you talk to them about products [00:24:31] even many of them won't use anymore [00:24:34] you'll get to products like Parakquad. [00:24:37] Parakquad is uh actually it was really [00:24:39] originally formulated by Sententa. [00:24:43] Quot was used in uh anti-drug [00:24:47] spraying in Latin America. It was very [00:24:49] controversial for that [00:24:50] >> and it and it it'll burn down plants in [00:24:53] a matter of hours. [00:24:55] >> But it but if you're exposed to paraquad [00:25:00] your chance of Parkinson's doubles. [00:25:02] Matter of fact, [00:25:04] >> actually [00:25:04] >> Oh yes. [00:25:05] >> Parkinson's there's people if you [00:25:07] >> that's something you don't want to get. [00:25:08] >> No. And if if you go on X and you type [00:25:10] in and you just like look at parakqua, [00:25:12] you'll find stories of farmers who just [00:25:14] will not use it anymore. They'll they'll [00:25:16] tell stories of, you know, spraying it [00:25:18] and immediately getting like or that day [00:25:20] getting like uncontrollable bloody [00:25:21] noses. It's it's a very very harsh [00:25:24] product and it's still spray. I think [00:25:26] the estimate the best estimate is about [00:25:27] 300,000 acres of of land in Iowa use [00:25:30] this product. This product is actually [00:25:33] used in research settings in mice and [00:25:36] rodents to induce Parkinson's. [00:25:39] Are you being serious? I'm 100% serious. [00:25:42] And our EPA, and this is where the big [00:25:45] issue lies, [00:25:47] our EPA still allows it. So, if we're [00:25:49] talking about like, are these are these [00:25:52] products harmful? Like, we we can get [00:25:54] into that more, but yes. Well, we know [00:25:57] if it doubles your chance of [00:25:59] Parkinson's, [00:26:00] you're going to have to explain the [00:26:02] upside to continue selling that product. [00:26:05] I mean, my instinct is like, well, you'd [00:26:06] ban that today. That's and I think this [00:26:08] is what what people [00:26:10] >> Parkinson's come on now that's true [00:26:12] suffering it yeah it's it's a sentence [00:26:14] you don't want [00:26:15] >> no [00:26:16] >> but when you you can research this your [00:26:18] listeners can research this it is used [00:26:20] to induce Parkinson's in research [00:26:23] settings [00:26:25] >> I so [00:26:27] so when I talk about these products you [00:26:29] know I think what farmers want is to [00:26:32] understand the truth to like know that [00:26:34] their government is telling them the [00:26:36] truth about these products E whiz, but [00:26:38] as with many other things, the corporate [00:26:40] capture is so heavy. And so when you [00:26:42] talk about glyphosate or glyphosate [00:26:44] based herbicides, Roundup is one of [00:26:46] them. There's many glyphosate based [00:26:47] herbicides. [00:26:49] The EPA studied this for years. [00:26:52] Um, we know way more than we've ever [00:26:55] known about this. [00:26:57] And we also know that there are [00:26:59] significant risks associated with its [00:27:01] use. [00:27:03] And so, for example, one of the most uh [00:27:06] known cases is the uh case of the [00:27:09] groundskeeper in California, the first [00:27:11] major lawsuit against Monsanto. [00:27:14] And this was a uh a man who was his job [00:27:17] was to work for the school districts and [00:27:19] spray glyphosate. [00:27:22] And uh the hose broke on his on his pack [00:27:25] or his in his little cart and it end up [00:27:28] showering him with this product. [00:27:31] In a matter of months, he had lesions [00:27:33] all over his body. And he sends emails [00:27:36] to Monsanto asking, [00:27:39] "What should I do here?" I mean, they're [00:27:40] very like, "I need help." Like, not I'm [00:27:43] trying to blame you. He's like, "What? [00:27:44] How what do I do to solve this problem?" [00:27:47] Well, if you fast forward in that trial, [00:27:51] the uh when they were in the discovery [00:27:55] process, the judge agreed to make a [00:27:57] large portion of the discovery [00:27:59] confidential, meaning that it wasn't, [00:28:01] you know, wasn't to be released, but the [00:28:04] plaintiffs could uh challenge something [00:28:07] or request the disclosure of it and they [00:28:10] could request a meet and confer to talk [00:28:11] about him. [00:28:13] and they requested it at one point and [00:28:16] the Monsanto attorneys I think literally [00:28:18] said the words go away. We're not going [00:28:21] to disclose anything else. But then [00:28:23] there's Do I get to do that next time I [00:28:25] get sued? Go away. [00:28:26] >> Go away. And so but there was a [00:28:29] stipulation in there that said if they [00:28:30] didn't if Monsanto didn't put in there [00:28:33] another request to continue the [00:28:35] confidentiality within 30 days that the [00:28:37] confidentiality was waved. They forgot [00:28:40] to respond. And so now we have millions [00:28:43] of pages of documents called the [00:28:44] Monsanto papers. Millions. And in those [00:28:47] documents, it is an absolute master [00:28:50] class in corporate capture [00:28:53] to the effect of you know that email [00:28:56] that he sent to the company. They opened [00:28:58] it. They read it. They forwarded around. [00:29:00] What should we do here? And they just [00:29:01] didn't respond to him. I'm a man who's [00:29:04] like hurting, who's oh the initial [00:29:07] email. I'm covered in lesions from your [00:29:09] product. What should I do? [00:29:10] >> What should I do? Yeah, basically was [00:29:11] asking for help. They read it, forwarded [00:29:13] around. What do we do with this? Nobody [00:29:15] responded to him. And there's he sent [00:29:17] two of those emails. I believe it was [00:29:18] two. But in there's also things like [00:29:22] there was a time and place where another [00:29:24] governmental body was going to be doing [00:29:26] a study on the safety of glyphosate or [00:29:30] Roundup on uh in this case. And the EPA [00:29:35] official that Monsanto was working with [00:29:36] at the time got wind of this and in the [00:29:40] email with the with the Monsanto uh [00:29:43] official, he's recounting his [00:29:45] conversation with this EPA official. [00:29:48] And in it, he said this the official [00:29:52] said to him on the phone, he quotes an [00:29:54] email, if I can kill this, I should get [00:29:56] a medal. And he did. He prevented this [00:30:00] other governmental body from doing their [00:30:02] own independent research on the safety [00:30:04] and effectiveness of glyphosate of of [00:30:06] Route. [00:30:07] >> Come on now. This is real. This is out [00:30:09] there. This is 2000. [00:30:10] >> This is the regulator. [00:30:11] >> This is the regulator. [00:30:13] Yes. And so this is out there. And other [00:30:19] egregious examples of and I say this to [00:30:21] say this um very often I'm talking to [00:30:23] farmers who I love who are my friends [00:30:25] and my neighbors and my family and I am [00:30:27] one of them. We actively farm our own [00:30:29] land. I work with young farmers that, [00:30:32] you know, to help them have an [00:30:33] opportunity to be on land. We share [00:30:35] crop, but I'm in there. I'm doing this. [00:30:39] The most common comment I get from [00:30:40] people is if it wasn't safe, they [00:30:41] wouldn't let me use it. And I'm just [00:30:44] here to say that's a lie. Just like they [00:30:46] were captured during COVID and the [00:30:48] medical establishment captured agencies. [00:30:50] Just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting [00:30:52] right now and Donald Trump is fighting [00:30:53] right now. These agencies have been [00:30:55] captured for a long time and they've [00:30:56] been lying to the consumers about the [00:30:58] safety and efficacy of their products. [00:31:01] And my whole goal here, I'm not here to [00:31:04] sit and say we should ban X, Y, or Z. [00:31:05] That's not what I'm talking about. I [00:31:06] mean think there's certain things like [00:31:07] parakquad probably should not be used. I [00:31:10] mean [00:31:13] of Parkinson's like hard no. [00:31:15] >> Hard no. It it shouldn't be used. [00:31:18] But what I want is good science so [00:31:22] farmers can say do I want to use this [00:31:24] product and we can say should this [00:31:25] product be allowed and also know if I'm [00:31:28] going to use this product this is how it [00:31:30] should be used. I mean when you have [00:31:31] commercials I mean we we know how [00:31:33] glyphosate enters the bloodstream. We [00:31:35] know that if it if it's on your skin [00:31:37] about 30% enters your bloodstream about [00:31:41] 10% of that is is uh through cardiac [00:31:44] output. About 10% goes into your bone [00:31:46] marrow. In bone marrow, glyosate [00:31:50] disrupts the replication of hematopoetic [00:31:52] stem cells. Then they're differentiating [00:31:54] from red to white. It's genotoxic. [00:31:57] There's 50 studies that show this. Like [00:31:59] we know how it happens. And yet there's [00:32:00] commercials showing people using this [00:32:03] product in flip flops and shorts just [00:32:05] saying like be cavalier about it. [00:32:09] We have many products we use. You go [00:32:10] into my shop at the farm, there's many [00:32:12] products on the shelf that if they're [00:32:14] used improperly are bad for your health [00:32:17] and they warn about that on the label. [00:32:21] These do not, not in that same way. [00:32:25] But in these papers were also examples [00:32:28] like this. [00:32:30] In 2000, there was a study called the [00:32:32] Williams study. It's the most cited [00:32:35] study on the safety of glyphosate. The [00:32:37] most cited. 99.9% of all papers that [00:32:41] cite the safety of glyphosate cite this [00:32:43] study. [00:32:45] Last month, that study was retracted [00:32:48] because it was found that Monsanto [00:32:50] executives wrote it. [00:32:52] Wrote the study. But here's here's maybe [00:32:55] even the worst part. We found that out [00:32:57] in 2017 and it was retracted in 2025. [00:33:02] The Monsanto executive actually said [00:33:04] when he's sending this back, he better [00:33:06] not have any revisions. [00:33:10] That's what he said. And so, look, [00:33:14] you know, I think often times when you [00:33:15] talk about the subject, especially in my [00:33:17] home state, there's this desire to paint [00:33:20] you as some liberal hippie that doesn't [00:33:23] like farming. Like, I'm the exact [00:33:25] opposite of that. [00:33:26] >> I can tell. [00:33:27] >> I actually think that wokeism is a [00:33:29] mental disorder that's trying to destroy [00:33:31] our country, [00:33:32] >> of course. [00:33:32] >> And that we have got to fight to protect [00:33:34] our culture, our people, and our [00:33:36] heritage. [00:33:38] But I also believe that our government [00:33:40] has been captured in large part and this [00:33:42] is one of the most egregious examples. [00:33:44] It's really simple. If you know why do [00:33:46] you love the country? One of the reasons [00:33:48] you love it is because of its physical [00:33:50] beauty. The landscape. I mean America is [00:33:53] great because it's got great people and [00:33:55] because it's inherently great. Just [00:33:57] beautiful. And anyone who's despoiling [00:33:59] nature is an enemy of the country. Super [00:34:01] simple. Anyone building ugly buildings, [00:34:03] spraying poisonous chemicals, those are [00:34:05] our enemies. Those are not our friends. [00:34:08] I I don't think it's complicated at all. [00:34:10] And that's that's not the liberal [00:34:11] position. The liberals are the ones who [00:34:13] are putting solar, you know, bulldozing [00:34:15] trees to build solar farms. [00:34:17] >> Yeah. [00:34:17] >> Let's just be clear about what this is. [00:34:20] It's an aggressive, coordinated effort [00:34:23] to defile God's creation by people who [00:34:26] hate God. 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That's we like and you're right [00:36:33] like in we are the environmentalists. [00:36:36] Like obviously [00:36:37] >> we are the people that that want to keep [00:36:39] that and keep God's creation. [00:36:40] >> Bernie Sanders spends a lot of time [00:36:42] outside. You think AOC can identify a [00:36:44] tree species? I mean, these are people [00:36:46] who are rejecting nature, rejecting [00:36:49] beauty, rejecting anything that is [00:36:52] natural and pure and trying to defile [00:36:54] it. That's their program. [00:36:55] >> Yeah. Well, and they they've been [00:36:58] completely captured by this idea of [00:37:01] carbon, [00:37:02] >> but it's it's insane. And so carbon is [00:37:05] not I'm by the way admitting it right [00:37:08] now. Carbon is not the problem. Carbon [00:37:11] is the basis of life. The problem is [00:37:14] man-made poisons. [00:37:16] >> So, how's the health? Okay. So, um Iowa [00:37:19] is still primarily an a state obviously. [00:37:22] >> Yeah, we're we are absolutely. [00:37:24] >> Well, you have a in all 99 counties, [00:37:26] correct? [00:37:26] >> Yes. A is is the largest industry and [00:37:29] and kind of come to the last point of [00:37:32] like that that scorecard I mentioned to [00:37:33] you. It's like [00:37:36] >> we have the fastest rate of new cancer [00:37:39] of anywhere in the history of human [00:37:40] civilization. What? [00:37:42] >> Yes. [00:37:43] >> Can you repeat that? [00:37:44] >> We have the fastest rate of new cancer [00:37:46] of anywhere in the history of human [00:37:47] civilization. [00:37:49] >> Iowa. [00:37:49] >> Iowa. Iowa. Matter of fact, if you live [00:37:53] in one of the top counties for cancer in [00:37:56] our state, they're all rural counties. [00:37:59] Your lifetime chance of getting cancer [00:38:00] is one in two. And if you take Iowa as a [00:38:04] whole and you compare it to say a state [00:38:07] like Nevada, Nevada actually has fairly [00:38:09] low cancer rates. In any given year, [00:38:11] that is the highest smoking rate out of [00:38:13] 50 states, but one of the lowest cancer [00:38:15] rates. Iowa has very low smoking rates, [00:38:18] very low smoking rates relative [00:38:21] certainly to Nevada and has really high [00:38:24] cancer rate. I'm just just not a [00:38:27] scientist. I'm just noticing. I I just I [00:38:29] picked Nevada cuz I needed to pick a [00:38:30] state that I was like, look, Nevada has [00:38:31] the highest smoking rate in America. [00:38:33] Look it up. So if you choose to live in [00:38:36] Nevada over Iowa in any given year, your [00:38:39] chance of getting cancer is 40% less. [00:38:42] I've I've Why have I never heard this [00:38:44] before? [00:38:44] >> 40%. If you take the top county for [00:38:47] cancer in our state and you compare it [00:38:49] 70% less. [00:38:51] >> Actually, [00:38:52] >> actually [00:38:54] is the top county in a county. [00:38:55] >> Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. [00:38:56] >> It's not De Moine. [00:38:57] >> No, no, no, no. The actually there's [00:38:59] lower rates of cancer. I mean per capita [00:39:01] of course in those in those places for [00:39:04] real in your population centers they [00:39:05] have lower cancer [00:39:07] >> it's uh the top 10 counties are all [00:39:09] rural counties so you can say that [00:39:11] people who are spending the day outside [00:39:13] getting physical exercise 12 months a [00:39:15] year when those people have higher [00:39:17] cancer rates than someone working in a [00:39:20] cube in De Moines then you start to [00:39:22] think maybe there are external factors [00:39:24] we should be looking at you know as I've [00:39:27] brought this up I find myself this is So [00:39:30] interesting. I find myself with with a [00:39:32] genuine care because like I said, I'm [00:39:34] not trying to tell farmers how they have [00:39:36] to farm. I'm not trying to tell [00:39:37] everybody they have to farm like me. [00:39:38] Like we run a regenerative farm. Lots of [00:39:40] it's organic. My goal is to help Ians [00:39:44] live longer, healthier lives. Help [00:39:46] farmers make more money and help kids [00:39:49] stay on farms for longer. Sounds like [00:39:51] it's the farmers who are being abused [00:39:52] here. They're the victims here. [00:39:54] >> 100%. [00:39:55] >> They're the ones getting cancer. [00:39:56] >> It's 100%. And that and that's that's [00:39:58] you know and I'll talk to farmers about [00:39:59] this or I'll talk to people that you [00:40:01] maybe are big in the egg community and [00:40:03] they hear these talking points and [00:40:05] they'll say like applicators of these [00:40:07] products have lower cancer rates and [00:40:10] they're not wrong. That's actually an [00:40:12] accurate statement. Meaning farmers in [00:40:15] general as a whole can have lower cancer [00:40:17] rates. But when you hone in specifically [00:40:19] on non-hodkkins lymphoma leukemia they [00:40:22] have much higher cancer rates. the [00:40:24] lifestyle of the job is going to give [00:40:27] you more exercise. It's going to put you [00:40:29] out. And so there are these things that [00:40:31] lower it, but you hear these industry [00:40:32] talking points about like actually [00:40:34] there's lower lower in total. It's like [00:40:36] yeah, but your chance of getting these [00:40:38] specific cancers linked to these [00:40:40] products is much higher. And so it [00:40:46] even with the rate of cancer in our [00:40:48] state, you know, I'm in a go a [00:40:49] governor's race right now and even with [00:40:52] the rate of cancer in our state, there's [00:40:54] not one person talking about these [00:40:56] things that I'm talking about right now [00:40:58] with the likely causes of the cancer in [00:41:00] our state. We hear things like, [00:41:02] >> "You fear you'll be attacked as a [00:41:04] liberal for bringing this up?" Uh I I [00:41:06] fear most that it's not a fear but most [00:41:10] I think that the a associations [00:41:13] especially ones are not member driven [00:41:15] you know um that are constituted by [00:41:17] actual farmers [00:41:19] uh that take large checks from the [00:41:22] companies that I'm mentioning right now [00:41:24] I think the most likely scenario that [00:41:26] everybody's warned me about is they're [00:41:27] just going to come and try to destroy [00:41:28] me. [00:41:30] I'm literally here because I could get [00:41:32] into tears thinking about the people [00:41:34] that I know that have gotten cancer. My [00:41:35] own father got it. He was a he was a [00:41:37] crop consultant. So his job was to go [00:41:40] into fields, check for pests, weeds. I [00:41:43] used to do this with him as a child. So [00:41:45] I I had a lot of fun doing it. [00:41:48] He he'd write a report and he'd bring it [00:41:50] back to the farmers and this is part of [00:41:51] his job. He did it very well and this is [00:41:53] just the norm. It's what you did and [00:41:55] he'd recommend this is what you should [00:41:56] apply. He did that for over two decades [00:42:00] and he was diagnosed with one of these [00:42:02] exact types of cancer and that's what [00:42:05] really I think uh how old was he? [00:42:08] >> He was uh 60. [00:42:10] >> Ouch. [00:42:11] >> Well, Tucker, this is maybe where [00:42:13] >> Sorry. Thank you. You know, he's he's in [00:42:16] he's in remission now. Thank the Lord. [00:42:19] But this is where I think this hits home [00:42:21] spiritually too is that I think Ians and [00:42:24] myself included. I you know about three [00:42:26] and a half months ago I went back to my [00:42:28] hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for [00:42:30] the funeral of my best friend from high [00:42:32] school for his father. He died of died [00:42:34] of cancer in again in the 60s. And I [00:42:37] tell people like I don't know how many [00:42:39] more of these funerals of men and women [00:42:41] in their 60s I can go to when their [00:42:44] parents live to be 80. [00:42:46] Like we're losing the wisdom of an [00:42:48] entire generation of people. [00:42:50] >> Sure. [00:42:51] >> And and [00:42:52] >> life expectancy goes down. It's not [00:42:54] progress. [00:42:55] >> Oh. So I tell people, and this is the [00:42:57] more the political way to say it. Look, [00:42:59] we can have amazing I'll say this. I [00:43:02] often tell people, I'm not running for [00:43:05] office because of policy. I'm running [00:43:06] because of culture. And they what does [00:43:08] that mean? And I'll say, look, [00:43:11] ask a Republican in Dearbornne, [00:43:13] Michigan, how much he cares about his [00:43:14] tax rate. or does he care that the [00:43:17] Muslim call to prayers on the [00:43:18] loudspeaker five times a day and he [00:43:20] doesn't remember know where he's waking [00:43:21] up anymore and his culture is gone. [00:43:25] We have to protect our culture. Our [00:43:27] founders intended that to be the case. [00:43:29] We have a huge amount of talk about [00:43:31] founders primarily when it comes to [00:43:33] fiscal issues and things like this. We [00:43:35] forget that I think it was John Adams [00:43:38] that said something along the lines of [00:43:40] public virtue [00:43:43] is dependent on private virtue. [00:43:46] in public virtue [00:43:48] is the only foundation of a republic. [00:43:52] And so we hear these things and this is [00:43:56] a bit of a a bit of a tangent here, [00:43:57] Tucker, but I I've had to have a bit of [00:44:00] a realization on this and and to [00:44:02] understand better what's going on [00:44:04] because I grew up in an era where [00:44:07] libertarian thinking was very pervasive. [00:44:10] It was all over the place. I I agreed [00:44:12] with much of it and there's still things [00:44:13] I do agree with. I was a fellow at the [00:44:14] Kato Institute, so you don't need to [00:44:16] apologize in my presence. No, I I know [00:44:18] what you mean. [00:44:19] >> Well, it wasn't that long ago that many [00:44:20] Americans thought they were inherently [00:44:22] safe from the kinds of disasters you [00:44:23] hear about all the time in third world [00:44:25] countries. A total power loss, for [00:44:27] example, or people freezing to death in [00:44:29] their own homes. That could never happen [00:44:30] here. Obviously, it's America. [00:44:34] People are recalculating, unfortunately, [00:44:36] cuz they have no choice. The last few [00:44:38] years have taught us that. Remember when [00:44:39] the power grid in Texas failed in the [00:44:42] dead of winter? like, yeah, it happened [00:44:44] and it could happen again. So, the [00:44:46] government is not actually as reliable [00:44:48] as you'd hope they would be. And the [00:44:51] truth is, the future is unforeseeable [00:44:52] and things do seem to be getting a [00:44:54] little squirly. So, if the grid does go [00:44:56] down, you need power you can trust. Last [00:44:59] Country Supplyy's newest product is [00:45:01] designed for exactly that. The Grid [00:45:03] Doctor is a 3,300 watt battery backup [00:45:06] system that will power full-size [00:45:08] appliances, medical devices, and tools [00:45:11] with clean, reliable power. It's even [00:45:14] protected. 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And I think what that [00:46:04] amounted to is there's so many people [00:46:06] have subscribed to what I call this [00:46:08] religion of economic thinking. [00:46:11] This idea of market fundamentalism that [00:46:14] the market matters above all. And I say [00:46:16] that that's not what our ancestors [00:46:18] believe. It's not what our founders [00:46:19] believed. [00:46:19] >> So has it worked? [00:46:21] Exactly. Now, you know, I say about our [00:46:23] ancestors, they didn't come here to [00:46:24] become capitalists. They came here to [00:46:27] own the ground under their feet, to [00:46:29] build their churches and communities and [00:46:31] pass something on to the next [00:46:32] generation, [00:46:33] >> to their children, of course, [00:46:34] >> but they didn't come here to do it at [00:46:35] the detriment of their neighbors. They [00:46:37] actually came here to do it helping [00:46:39] their neighbors. [00:46:40] >> Well, you obviously are a communist. Um [00:46:43] I have to tell you the amount of [00:46:45] arguments that I hear from this [00:46:48] generation that has subscribed to this [00:46:49] religion of economic thinking which by [00:46:51] the way our founders did not support. [00:46:52] They were in favor of tariffs. They the [00:46:54] states all had laws primarily all of [00:46:57] them had laws to protect moral virtue. [00:46:59] Like this was a part of what they did. [00:47:01] They knew it and they knew because like [00:47:04] the state has a role in that. And we [00:47:07] were we are a Christian nation with a [00:47:09] Christian form of government. like our [00:47:11] constitution could not have been created [00:47:13] by any other religion. You're not [00:47:14] endowed by a creator. You're not you [00:47:16] don't have inaliable rights. [00:47:19] In Christianity, you do. The divinity of [00:47:22] individual is real. We're made in the [00:47:24] image of God. [00:47:26] And so, I have these arguments with [00:47:28] people where I'm saying, look, [00:47:31] 25% of our land owned investors, I'd [00:47:34] like to raise their property taxes. I'd [00:47:36] like to disincentivize this thing that's [00:47:39] been happening in our state. [00:47:41] and create a new category of of tax for [00:47:44] investment land for people that are [00:47:45] coming in and prospecting. [00:47:47] And I'm just this is socialism. This is [00:47:49] communism. I'm just saying [00:47:51] >> who says that [00:47:52] >> it's this is what gets me is it's [00:47:55] >> self-defense is immoral now. [00:47:57] >> Yeah. Right. [00:47:58] >> That's basically what they're saying. [00:47:59] You're not allowed to defend yourself. [00:48:01] >> Yeah. I would just say is [00:48:03] >> Iowa is not an economic zone for the [00:48:05] world or for the country. [00:48:07] >> It's not. You're upsetting me. Yes, I [00:48:10] agree. And so when I but when I say [00:48:13] this, it's often times people that were, [00:48:15] you know, that were often times it's [00:48:18] people that were really affected by the [00:48:21] economic thinking that came out of the [00:48:23] Chicago School of Economics. And I when [00:48:26] I trace much of this back, I look at [00:48:28] what happened in the 1980s. I think [00:48:29] Ronald Reagan did a lot of great things, [00:48:32] but there's also this [00:48:35] market fundamentalism that really took [00:48:37] over. And then you look at what's been [00:48:40] the repercussions of that. This idea [00:48:42] that unrestrained capitalism is what we [00:48:45] worship [00:48:46] >> or that it even is capitalism [00:48:47] >> that it even is capitalism because often [00:48:49] times it's it's corporatism. [00:48:51] >> Of course, [00:48:51] >> just oligarch. Exactly. [00:48:53] >> Um or that free trade is the ideal. It's [00:48:57] like even the fathers of modern [00:48:59] economics, Adam Smith, even David [00:49:01] Ricardo, who was a person that basically [00:49:05] developed the idea of comparative [00:49:06] advantage, which is a big thing. Yes, [00:49:09] free trade is good if you protect your [00:49:11] national interest first. [00:49:14] Like [00:49:15] like for instance, the micro the silicon [00:49:17] microchip was invented by a man from [00:49:19] Iowa, Robert Noise. He's with Intel. [00:49:23] And then you look at what's happened now [00:49:25] in our country from a product that was [00:49:26] invented in our country. We produce 10% [00:49:31] of them. And all basically all of the [00:49:34] high techch versions of this we can't [00:49:37] produce. We don't have the technology. [00:49:38] So the ones that would be a military [00:49:39] application are coming from somewhere [00:49:41] else. [00:49:43] So there's this idea that that that the [00:49:46] market matters overall. I'm saying no [00:49:49] that that's not we don't worship the [00:49:51] market. Like [00:49:54] the most egregious example of this I [00:49:57] think is when you look at what happened [00:50:00] through free trade in the rust belt and [00:50:02] throughout the Midwest [00:50:05] where you had people that were told that [00:50:08] um you know their jobs were being [00:50:10] shipped overseas but they'd be replaced [00:50:13] by high-tech jobs that then they'd be [00:50:15] trained by which by the way is a lie. It [00:50:17] didn't happen. [00:50:19] Matter of fact, [00:50:21] the biggest benefits that came from that [00:50:23] were for the leaders of large companies [00:50:25] that chose to do what Adam Smith said [00:50:28] not to do, which was, you know, free [00:50:30] trade was about was about one country [00:50:33] doing something really well, another [00:50:34] country doing another thing really well, [00:50:36] right? And they exchange [00:50:38] >> it. [00:50:39] A a comparative advantage in the market [00:50:42] isn't exploitative labor conditions of a [00:50:44] communist government. [00:50:46] That's not that's not included in the [00:50:48] comparative advantages. [00:50:49] >> Not Adam Smith didn't foresee that. [00:50:51] >> No. And so like when capital's mobile [00:50:53] and you can move all of these factories [00:50:55] to one place to to [00:50:58] get cheap labor, everything's going [00:51:01] there. And then so who got rich off [00:51:03] that? Well, large companies got rich and [00:51:05] then pharmaceutical companies got rich [00:51:07] that prayed off purpose purposeless [00:51:10] white males who lost their work. Of [00:51:13] course, [00:51:14] >> in large part [00:51:14] >> the Sacklers [00:51:15] >> and it creates [00:51:16] >> still billionaires never went to jail. [00:51:19] >> And like as I say this, I I get like [00:51:22] goosebumps because it's like [00:51:25] this is just wrong. [00:51:27] >> Oh yeah. [00:51:27] >> I mean the hundreds of thousands of [00:51:30] deaths that have come from this. When [00:51:32] you take work and purpose away from [00:51:34] people and you sell them a lie that then [00:51:37] it's going to be replaced by these [00:51:38] high-tech jobs or high-tech training for [00:51:41] jobs and it doesn't happen and then you [00:51:43] have these practices where people, you [00:51:45] know, like here's a new customer, we can [00:51:47] get them addicted. [00:51:49] There's a stat I read. It's almost like [00:51:51] it was on purpose. [00:51:54] You know, [00:51:56] in 2016, [00:51:59] the World Economic Forum had that [00:52:01] article that was published still online. [00:52:02] I don't know why it's still online [00:52:04] today, but it talked about this idea [00:52:06] that in the future you'll own nothing [00:52:08] and you'll be happy. I tell people like [00:52:12] that wasn't a joke. It wasn't a threat. [00:52:14] It was a plan. [00:52:15] >> Oh, of course. [00:52:16] >> And it's happening. [00:52:17] >> Oh, I know. And so there [00:52:20] I think many people in our country just [00:52:23] feel as if there's this large plan or [00:52:27] effort that's being executed that we're [00:52:30] not privy to. [00:52:31] >> Yeah. [00:52:32] >> But we have these scops that happen that [00:52:35] like [00:52:38] that come up and uh we're fed them [00:52:42] through news or something like that to [00:52:44] get on board with it. I think what we [00:52:46] just talked about is probably a large [00:52:47] part of that. This idea that we're going [00:52:50] to take away meaningful manual labor [00:52:52] with your hands, which by the way is [00:52:54] like maybe second to farming, that type [00:52:57] of work is really gratifying because [00:52:59] you're creating a product for I do it in [00:53:00] my spare time. Like I can't wait to get [00:53:02] off work and do it, [00:53:03] >> not because I'm great at it or [00:53:05] something, but because it's so [00:53:07] rewarding. It's so refreshing. It feeds [00:53:10] something. It feeds a real hunger, I [00:53:12] think, in all men. And so, yes. No, it's [00:53:15] like my primary form of relaxation. I [00:53:17] just love it. And I think I think every [00:53:19] man feels that way. [00:53:20] >> I agree. I Man, you you look at some of [00:53:23] these uh channels on social media that [00:53:26] have taken off. Oh, yeah. [00:53:28] >> It's so much of this because it's like [00:53:30] we and they're they're like addicting. [00:53:31] It's like I love watching gosh, even the [00:53:33] bushcraft videos of people making these [00:53:35] houses. They're amazing. Or how about [00:53:37] Pakistani metalwork videos? You ever [00:53:39] watch those? That's a whole genre. Those [00:53:41] guys are amazing. I've never really [00:53:42] liked Pakistan. Spent time in Pakistan. [00:53:45] You watch those videos, you're like, I'm [00:53:47] pretty pro Pakistan. Just just the [00:53:48] ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is [00:53:50] not high by the way, but it's just like [00:53:52] these are men making things out of raw [00:53:55] materials. And it's just a thrill to [00:53:56] watch that. [00:53:57] >> Yeah. And and and they're proud of what [00:53:59] they create. [00:54:00] >> 100%. And they ought to be. [00:54:01] >> They should. And they have my respect. [00:54:03] >> Yeah. [00:54:04] >> But and me as well. And I would just say [00:54:07] that I look at this from the standpoint [00:54:10] of you'll own nothing. And I look at [00:54:12] this large narrative that's happening in [00:54:14] our country. I mean, you know this, but [00:54:16] even in Iowa, Blackstone is buying [00:54:18] single family homes. There's another [00:54:20] company in Council Bluffs is doing as [00:54:21] well, Bill Multi-billion dollar real [00:54:23] estate investment trust. It's buying up [00:54:24] single family homes. [00:54:25] >> In Council Bluffs, [00:54:26] >> Council Bluffs, [00:54:27] >> that's a tough town. [00:54:28] >> Yeah. And it [00:54:29] >> right across the river from Omaha. [00:54:31] >> Yeah. It wouldn't be your first choice. [00:54:32] I mean, that's how that's how ubiquitous [00:54:34] this is, right? Right. It's like it's [00:54:36] bluffs bluffs. Yep. [00:54:38] >> And then you look at our farmlands being [00:54:41] bought by people that don't live here. [00:54:43] And even when you get back into [00:54:44] agriculture and you look at, you know, [00:54:46] Iowa is the top pork producing state in [00:54:49] the country. [00:54:49] >> Yes. What most people don't know is I [00:54:53] think somewhere above 75% of the pork [00:54:55] that's raised in in Iowa, the farmers [00:54:58] don't own the pigs. [00:54:58] >> Of course not. They're on contract from [00:55:00] one of the big four agriculture [00:55:02] conglomerates, Cargill, Tyson, [00:55:05] um JBS and um and National. [00:55:10] So, we're having this this pride in our [00:55:13] work, this pride in our land, this you [00:55:16] the health of our people. We're having [00:55:18] these major issues come up. Well, so can [00:55:21] I just ask you to I mean that does so [00:55:23] you will own nothing and be happy is a [00:55:24] very famous phrase and thank you for [00:55:26] reminding us that it was 10 years ago [00:55:27] that it first emerged and that it was [00:55:29] real. It was not a meme at that point. [00:55:31] It was like a statement of intent. But I [00:55:34] think that has obscured the even darker [00:55:37] reality which is not only will you not [00:55:39] own anything, you won't create anything. [00:55:42] >> Yeah. I personally, just speaking for [00:55:44] myself as a middle-aged man, I would [00:55:46] rather at this stage create than own. I [00:55:48] I like both. [00:55:50] But the joy, the thing that proves that [00:55:54] you were made in God's image is your [00:55:56] ability to create because God is the [00:55:58] creator. [00:55:58] >> Yeah. [00:55:59] >> And when you create something, it's it's [00:56:02] the whole purpose of being here. Whether [00:56:03] it's children or harmony or a pair of [00:56:08] reading glasses, creation, making [00:56:11] something out of nothing is the main joy [00:56:14] in life. And when you take that away, no [00:56:17] wonder people are on fentanyl. [00:56:18] >> Yeah. [00:56:20] >> Right. [00:56:20] >> Well, also I think maybe missing like [00:56:22] the biggest one of those is speech. [00:56:24] >> Well, exactly. [00:56:25] >> Of this right here of what you're [00:56:27] creating. [00:56:27] >> I like to believe that's a form of [00:56:28] creation. [00:56:28] >> It is. That's it. It's like I spent my [00:56:30] life talking. speech is that and and [00:56:33] that is that and [00:56:34] >> this is where I I believe that we get [00:56:37] bogged down in the like the policy in [00:56:41] the politics of this whole thing and we [00:56:44] forget about the grander story. [00:56:46] >> Yes. [00:56:46] >> Of who we are as a people that we're [00:56:49] endowed by our creator that we're here [00:56:50] for a big purpose. you know, you know, [00:56:53] um I spent a number of years building [00:56:56] schools and one of the things we'd say [00:56:58] is that we believe every young person is [00:57:01] a hero on their journey to find a [00:57:04] calling and change the world. Like that [00:57:06] was the inspirational [00:57:09] line that we would say basically every [00:57:11] day. Like that's who we are. That's why [00:57:13] we're here. And [00:57:17] a lot of this creation has been is being [00:57:20] taken away as you mentioned. And AI is [00:57:23] not the least of which. [00:57:24] >> I I tell my kids all the time, look, use [00:57:27] AI for research. Never let it write for [00:57:29] you. Writing is how you organize your [00:57:32] thoughts. It's how you can think [00:57:35] something through to separate the wheat [00:57:37] from the chaff to understand how to [00:57:40] think critically to test your ideas and [00:57:43] then get in debate and things like that. [00:57:45] You can't have a machine do that. That's [00:57:46] is uniquely human thing is for us to to [00:57:50] come up with these ideas based on our [00:57:52] unique life experiences. [00:57:53] >> Stealing joy. It's like saying eat a [00:57:55] steak for me, have sex for me, [00:57:57] >> you know, wake up at dawn and watch the [00:57:58] sunrise for me. No, I'll reserve those [00:58:00] to myself because those are the greatest [00:58:02] pleasures in life and create creating [00:58:05] something is number one on that list of [00:58:07] of joy. So like why would you ever [00:58:09] outsource that to a machine? I don't [00:58:11] understand that. Did you see the [00:58:13] commercial for the product that um [00:58:16] basically records like your grandmother? [00:58:21] You record them when they're alive and [00:58:23] then after they pass away it creates [00:58:26] basically an avatar of them. But the [00:58:28] actual [00:58:28] >> So you can steal my memories and replace [00:58:30] them with the creation of a machine. [00:58:32] Yeah, I don't think so. [00:58:33] >> This is this is real though. It's [00:58:35] actually this I say it's like for the [00:58:37] longest time we accepted technology and [00:58:40] look farming is a big in this too. It's [00:58:41] like look, it reduced the burden of [00:58:43] labor and there's a certain part of the [00:58:45] point to that that's probably good. [00:58:47] Meaning like hand plowing a field is a [00:58:49] really difficult task using a tractor. [00:58:52] Okay, that's probably okay, right? It is [00:58:55] okay. Obviously, I'm joking. But but [00:58:56] then when you start to see what it's [00:58:58] being used for now to replace human [00:59:01] beings, meaning you can continue to have [00:59:03] conversations with this grandmother long [00:59:06] after she's passed away and she'll give [00:59:08] you her unique thoughts. was that's [00:59:11] completely stripping away the divinity [00:59:12] of humanity. This idea that we're [00:59:15] created in God's image, that we each [00:59:17] have something unique to share, and that [00:59:18] humanity is something to be protected [00:59:21] and is very special in the history of in [00:59:24] the history of the universe. It's very [00:59:26] special. [00:59:27] And so, like, well, let me just say [00:59:29] this. A lot of my campaign comes down to [00:59:32] this question. I was reading an essay by [00:59:34] Wendelberry. [00:59:36] You know, it's funny as you were [00:59:37] talking, I was just thinking of Wendel [00:59:39] Barry and I was going to say apppropo of [00:59:42] nothing. I love Wendelberry. [00:59:44] I thought maybe he's never heard of [00:59:46] Wendle Berry. I love that you read [00:59:47] Wendleberry. I love Wendleberry. It a [00:59:49] matter of fact, his essay on 911 was so [00:59:51] radical. I think it got taken off the [00:59:53] internet, but it was like so good. You [00:59:55] know, I um I I maybe shouldn't say this [00:59:58] on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has [01:00:01] an autopilot feature and there was a [01:00:03] period of time when I'd be driving with [01:00:05] my kids and you know, somewhere and I [01:00:06] might like, you know, pull pull out the [01:00:08] Windleberry poem book and give them and [01:00:11] so on the way to school talking to my [01:00:12] sister-in-law yesterday about [01:00:14] Wendleberry poems. Literally yesterday [01:00:16] there I I would actually have the kids [01:00:18] take turns in the car reading a poem to [01:00:21] each. Yeah. Because look, [01:00:24] understanding these ideas, I don't know [01:00:26] if there's other than faith and they're [01:00:28] tied in together, inextricably woven [01:00:31] together are the ideas that Windleberry [01:00:32] puts forward in the ideas of our faith. [01:00:34] You can't separate them because it's [01:00:36] about creation. Yes, [01:00:37] >> it's about protecting that and [01:00:40] understanding that we were told to tend [01:00:42] the garden. We're told to subdue, but [01:00:44] not destroy, of course. And so I would [01:00:47] have the kids read this because it's [01:00:49] like I want you guys to know like look [01:00:50] if I'm gone tomorrow and you knew two [01:00:53] things about me that I loved my savior [01:00:56] and I loved the creation. [01:00:58] >> Yes. [01:00:59] >> I'd be very happy. And I hope that you [01:01:00] know if that's the only two things you [01:01:02] remember about me and you just had to [01:01:03] keep reflecting on those two things. [01:01:04] Great. You're making me emotional again. [01:01:07] Sorry. But in this essay I was actually [01:01:11] in the Elant. [01:01:12] >> Okay. If you're listening to Wendel [01:01:13] Barry poems in the car with your kids [01:01:15] like I'm I tell me where the fundraiser [01:01:18] is cuz I'm going cuz I just we need more [01:01:20] of this in America. [01:01:22] So um he had this uh poem uh this essay [01:01:26] he wrote in the Atlantic. I think it was [01:01:27] 1991 and somebody some quote I read [01:01:31] turned me on to that and I was like I [01:01:32] wonder what this is. So I went and read [01:01:34] read the whole thing and in it he talked [01:01:36] about this idea and I think this [01:01:38] summarizes so much what I'm talking [01:01:39] about when I say our farm farmland's [01:01:43] being owned by people who don't live [01:01:44] here. Our jobs are being shipped to [01:01:46] other countries. Our factories being [01:01:47] shipped to other countries. We have [01:01:49] unchecked monopolies that are exploiting [01:01:51] our farmers. [01:01:53] We have the highest cancer rate but [01:01:54] we're not talking about it. [01:01:57] Windel said that a foundational question [01:02:00] that the Amish ask before they make any [01:02:03] big decision is what will this change do [01:02:07] to our community? [01:02:08] >> Yes. [01:02:10] >> And I think I don't know anyone who [01:02:12] would deny that our politicians and our [01:02:15] leaders have not been asking that [01:02:16] question for a very long time. [01:02:18] >> That is absolutely right. And that is [01:02:19] absolutely right. and and we don't ask [01:02:21] ourselves enough how will this change us [01:02:23] and our relationships and our [01:02:25] understanding of God in the world and I [01:02:27] think that of labor saving devices I [01:02:29] find myself I'm the product of you know [01:02:32] America and at its peak and there's not [01:02:36] enough labor actually and I find myself [01:02:38] trying to eliminate laborsaving devices [01:02:40] from my life merely so I will have the [01:02:42] experience of labor [01:02:43] >> yeah we hand grind our coffee don't have [01:02:45] to do that why do we do that I always [01:02:47] say to my befuddled and grumpy be [01:02:50] children like because we're not [01:02:52] dependent on electricity for everything. [01:02:54] >> You can grind your own coffee. It's [01:02:55] okay. And I just feel like that and [01:02:58] obviously I'm insane so that informs a [01:03:00] lot of my decisions is my lunacy. But it [01:03:03] also speaks to like a need in all people [01:03:07] to be involved in the production of [01:03:09] something. [01:03:10] >> Yeah. [01:03:11] >> Right. [01:03:11] >> Oh, absolutely. [01:03:12] >> Like Door Dash is I'm not against Door [01:03:14] Dash, but like not that I've used it, [01:03:15] but like I don't know. But you gain [01:03:18] something but you also lose something. [01:03:20] That's all I'm saying. [01:03:20] >> Yeah. There there [01:03:24] when you feel the feeling of [01:03:26] accomplishment, [01:03:27] it's it's a liberating feeling. [01:03:29] >> Yes. [01:03:30] >> It's a it's a feeling that brings pride. [01:03:31] And I would say this, it's a feeling [01:03:32] that brings pride that also if you [01:03:34] understand your own history of your [01:03:36] family and your story that you can [01:03:38] connect it to what's happened generation [01:03:40] and generation and generation before. I [01:03:43] think so much of where we've went wrong [01:03:47] is that, you know, I was at a gosh, I [01:03:48] was at a a funeral for a woman that I [01:03:51] loved dearly. Her name was um Becky [01:03:54] Elder and she was an agrarian uh from [01:03:56] Kansas and you know, lived in Kansas for [01:03:58] a while and she was somebody who started [01:04:00] schools. She was an amazing woman. I [01:04:02] mean, like this this could get me [01:04:05] emotional, but um [01:04:07] uh I was at her funeral uh about a week [01:04:09] ago [01:04:11] and uh she was I would call a daughter [01:04:14] of the prairie, like loved creation, [01:04:18] tended it, had their own farms, all [01:04:20] these things. Um, and her son was [01:04:24] reading something about her and he said, [01:04:28] "One of the most common sins is [01:04:30] forgetting. [01:04:32] Forgetting where we come from." [01:04:34] >> Yep. [01:04:34] >> Forgetting our heritage. Forgetting [01:04:38] that these places really matter. [01:04:42] And so like when I'm in my community and [01:04:45] I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded [01:04:46] with in large part, you know, it's like [01:04:50] many of many of these places feel [01:04:52] forgotten, [01:04:54] especially by our politicians who didn't [01:04:57] ask these questions of what will these [01:04:58] changes do to our community. [01:05:01] I have a defensive mechanism that comes [01:05:03] up in me to say like I'm going to hear [01:05:05] I'm I'm going to fight for you. I'm [01:05:07] going to do it. And I don't know what [01:05:08] that is. I don't know where that came [01:05:09] from, but I would just say that God put [01:05:11] something on me to say, look, maybe I [01:05:14] win this governor's race, maybe I don't. [01:05:17] My whole life is going to be focused on [01:05:20] these issues because they're issues of [01:05:23] caring for your neighbor. And it's the [01:05:25] one of the two commands I've been given [01:05:29] by Jesus. And so, you know, that's why [01:05:33] we work with, you know, I we could do [01:05:35] farming a different way and I could make [01:05:37] more money on that. [01:05:39] I have a family that I love that I want [01:05:42] to like work with specifically because [01:05:45] it's additive to the whole equation. [01:05:47] >> Yes. [01:05:48] >> You know, when my greatgrandparents were [01:05:52] uh living on the farm, [01:05:54] I I found all these documents and I [01:05:56] heard stories about them from the [01:05:59] community. You know what's so [01:06:00] interesting is like when we talk about [01:06:02] we don't know who owns our land. You [01:06:04] know before when I was growing up and I [01:06:07] talk about these pieces of land. We've [01:06:08] bought some of these pieces because the [01:06:10] people have passed on and often times [01:06:12] they'll want to sell to us because they [01:06:14] know where my heart is and they don't [01:06:16] want it to go into an auction and they [01:06:17] don't want it going to somebody from out [01:06:18] of state out of the country. We don't [01:06:19] know. Um [01:06:22] we call the pieces of land by the last [01:06:24] name of the people that live there [01:06:25] forever. [01:06:26] >> Always we do the same. [01:06:27] >> That's what we do. That's exactly right. [01:06:28] >> And it's honoring. Like I've told my [01:06:30] wife, I I plan to put up plaques or [01:06:32] signs saying like this is this farm. [01:06:34] This is the history of this farm. [01:06:36] >> It's exactly what we do. It's exactly [01:06:37] right. And that's exactly the way to do [01:06:39] it. [01:06:40] >> And so when I was talking early on about [01:06:43] this idea of something lost, [01:06:46] I remember hearing some of these [01:06:46] stories. And one of the stories I really [01:06:48] loved was that you my uh [01:06:51] great-grandmother and my great-rpa [01:06:53] uh when they were on this farm, you [01:06:56] know, these Iowa communities used to be [01:06:58] dotted with these small farmsteads all [01:07:00] over. Many of them have just been [01:07:02] bulldozed and farmed over because, you [01:07:04] know, people are growing and growing and [01:07:05] growing farm. Consolidation's happening [01:07:06] everywhere. And [01:07:07] >> of course, [01:07:08] >> and with the consolidation, every time a [01:07:09] farm is consolidated, I say to people, [01:07:11] life goes out of our community. Like we [01:07:13] have to get our young people back on [01:07:14] these farms. one of my biggest biggest [01:07:16] efforts I'm going to be undertaking is [01:07:17] to do that. [01:07:19] They were so tight-knit in these [01:07:21] communities that my uh people would tell [01:07:22] me, you know, we used to come over to [01:07:24] your your house, this house, coffee was [01:07:27] on till 10:00 p.m. at night and your [01:07:30] great grandma and your great-randp were [01:07:31] actually the counselors of our [01:07:33] neighborhood. So, they had these groups [01:07:35] and so if husband and wife were having [01:07:38] an issue, they'd come over and they'd [01:07:40] sit and talk this through. if they're [01:07:42] having issues with kids, they'd sit and [01:07:43] talk these things through. And they [01:07:45] cared for each other and they're [01:07:46] involved in each other's lives. [01:07:49] And [01:07:51] we're experiencing likely the exact [01:07:53] opposite of that trend happening. We're [01:07:57] and it's having a profound effect on our [01:08:00] culture or becoming insular and othering [01:08:04] that you know just cuz you have a bumper [01:08:07] sticker that somebody doesn't like that [01:08:08] they're not to be talked to which is not [01:08:11] not at all like not what defined us back [01:08:14] then. [01:08:15] >> No, [01:08:15] >> not at all. And we're not allowed to [01:08:17] behave like that. Anyway, [01:08:19] >> my dream for the state of Iowa is to see [01:08:23] a long-term rich agrarian society. Like [01:08:26] a long-term rich agriculture heritage be [01:08:28] restored. That's my dream and that's [01:08:31] that's what I'm fighting for. Boy, [01:08:33] that's got to be one of the toughest [01:08:34] battles you could fight. [01:08:37] It's but it's worth it. It's a you know, [01:08:39] it's foundational not just to the state, [01:08:42] but to us as a people. I think it's [01:08:45] something in like our soul that like [01:08:47] working with our hands in the dirt with [01:08:49] animals with family with multiple [01:08:51] generations. [01:08:52] There's a book by a guy named Alan [01:08:54] Carlson I think it was called the the [01:08:56] natural family and where it belongs. And [01:08:58] I had another basically radicalizing [01:09:00] moment for me was reading this and [01:09:02] realizing this man said so many things [01:09:04] that I didn't know how to say. just that [01:09:07] that setup of Farmstead and neighboring [01:09:10] farmstead that care for each other and [01:09:13] that did a lot of life together was the [01:09:16] most in tuned and connected I think [01:09:18] spiritually we could probably say we [01:09:21] have been as a society or a community [01:09:25] and I would like to see that return. [01:09:28] What? I don't quite We met at an event a [01:09:32] couple of months ago, a very crowded [01:09:34] event, and had like a three-minute I'd [01:09:35] never heard of you. We had a [01:09:37] three-minute conversation. I was like, [01:09:38] "Whoa, I want to talk to that guy." Um, [01:09:41] so I should just confirm to anyone who's [01:09:44] still watching this uh an hour in that [01:09:47] uh you talk this way in private, too, [01:09:50] which I love. But what do people in like [01:09:54] a official organized Iowa politics think [01:09:57] when you say stuff like this? [01:10:00] You know, in in longer form discussions, [01:10:03] I find that it's very very good. [01:10:07] But I think that politics has been so [01:10:10] overtaken with this like bumper sticker [01:10:12] ideology. Yes. [01:10:15] Which is like I I think somebody once [01:10:16] said a bumper sticker is substitute for [01:10:19] thought or something like that. [01:10:20] >> Sure. [01:10:21] And and so and also I just think I'm not [01:10:26] the typical person that would run for [01:10:28] office. Like I really that's putting it [01:10:31] mildly. [01:10:33] I really like [01:10:35] I really worked hard to you know be on [01:10:38] our farm to farm it to have my kids [01:10:40] understand that to work in education and [01:10:42] these types of things. I really worked [01:10:43] hard to do that. This was not something [01:10:45] that I had just like saying you know [01:10:46] what timing is like I've been waiting [01:10:49] for this forever. we're we're doing [01:10:50] this. It was more that I thought, you [01:10:54] know, there's no term limits on the [01:10:55] governor of Iowa. The longest serving [01:10:58] governor in the history of America is [01:11:00] Iowa's former governor Terry Brenstead. [01:11:03] So, in my head and in my heart as I was [01:11:05] talking to my wife about this, it's [01:11:06] like, the next person who gets elected [01:11:08] governor could be governor till I die. [01:11:11] Oh, yeah. Well, look at look at your [01:11:12] senior senator. [01:11:14] >> Emphasis on the senior. I like him. I'm [01:11:16] not attacking him, but he served for a [01:11:17] couple hundred years, I think. And it's [01:11:20] like that uh the quote when Ronald [01:11:22] Reagan said, uh, "I knew Abraham Lincoln [01:11:24] and you know Abraham Lincoln." [01:11:27] >> I love that. But but it's, you know, so [01:11:31] politics is not the place for long for [01:11:35] deep and spiritual discussion. And I [01:11:37] wish it was. Yeah. Because I think if it [01:11:40] was, you'd require people running for [01:11:43] office to connect with you at a deeper [01:11:44] level to actually understand what you're [01:11:47] going through and to know that they care [01:11:50] about those issues. Because, you know, I [01:11:53] don't care how low our taxes are. [01:11:57] If I say this, if our kids are leaving [01:12:01] and our people are dying from cancer, we [01:12:03] are not in what I'd call successful [01:12:06] territory. [01:12:07] >> That's exactly right. And the beauty of [01:12:09] economics is uh it's supposedly a [01:12:12] species of science which means it can be [01:12:15] tested. So if you have an economic [01:12:17] system in progress longitudinally over a [01:12:19] period of time then you can assess with [01:12:22] the highest degree of accuracy whether [01:12:24] it worked or not right because you look [01:12:25] at the outcomes and by that measure [01:12:28] socialism communism is like the worst [01:12:30] possible failure. Our current system is [01:12:33] not anything like that but it's not a [01:12:35] it's not a win it's a failure because [01:12:36] look around. So like what we're doing [01:12:38] isn't working. I don't care what they [01:12:40] tell you at some think tank or what [01:12:42] should happen. [01:12:43] >> I've lived long enough to see what [01:12:45] actually happened and no. [01:12:47] >> Yeah. [01:12:47] >> Doesn't work. [01:12:50] >> And like look at some of these new ideas [01:12:52] that are coming out. Which by the way [01:12:53] it's like the fact that these have to be [01:12:56] stated is kind of crazy. And then the [01:12:58] fact that we get push back on it. Like [01:13:00] I'm somebody who firmly believes [01:13:03] that the priorities of my government and [01:13:05] my economy should be solely focused on [01:13:08] making life better for the people that [01:13:10] live in my state and my country. Like [01:13:13] not racist, [01:13:17] not not for big business, not for [01:13:19] foreign countries. Like [01:13:21] >> and I think so many people just thought [01:13:23] that was the case. And then like meaning [01:13:26] like people that we're not really paying [01:13:28] attention, but it's like the politicians [01:13:29] are all telling me like we're going to [01:13:30] work on this low tax. We're going to [01:13:32] work on this thing. It's like but hold [01:13:34] on. What just a day ago? 81 Republicans [01:13:39] voted to keep $315 million of spending [01:13:44] for the National Endowment for [01:13:46] Democracy. [01:13:48] >> What? Yeah. Not on your side. [01:13:50] >> It's right. And it's like after [01:13:52] everything that Elon Musk went through [01:13:54] Yeah. After all of what these people [01:13:56] did, all of what they took in the news, [01:13:58] all of like the the conflicts and [01:14:00] relationships that broke down, that one [01:14:03] thing that we know is a front [01:14:05] organization in large part is now [01:14:08] getting hundreds of millions of dollars [01:14:09] from our government and Republicans are [01:14:11] voting yes on it. [01:14:11] >> Of course they are. It's like we're not [01:14:14] learning anything. [01:14:15] >> We're learn It's like the the idea. How [01:14:18] >> Why am I laughing? Cuz I don't know what [01:14:20] else to do. [01:14:20] >> Well, how could you ever deny the [01:14:22] existence of the uni party at this [01:14:23] point? Oh, I know. Well, you have a very [01:14:27] prominent Republican [01:14:29] uh senator and presidential candidate [01:14:31] working with the ADL to suppress the [01:14:33] speech of Americans. So, it's like, hm, [01:14:36] maybe the current system isn't what they [01:14:38] talk. And I but people know that it's [01:14:40] that it's fake. And I guess the good [01:14:42] news is we still have enough elbow room [01:14:44] enough freedom in the United States [01:14:46] that, you know, reform is possible if [01:14:48] enough people are like, "No, come on [01:14:49] now. [01:14:50] You have to serve our interest sort of [01:14:52] or at least acknowledge them. [01:14:54] >> Yeah, you you would hope so. I think [01:14:56] like this vote specifically is is a [01:14:59] quite the conundrum to that point, [01:15:00] right? Like this all just happened. [01:15:03] >> Well, I could name eight other things [01:15:05] happened in the last month and you're [01:15:06] like this IS THIS IS SO UNBELIEVABLE. [01:15:09] IT'S SO OUTRAGEOUS. Like it can't [01:15:11] continue. The internal contradictions [01:15:12] have reached the point of breaking and [01:15:14] like we're getting something new and [01:15:15] then it's just like on to the next. [01:15:18] Yeah, it'll you're right. It'll be gone [01:15:19] in a week. It'll be like in a week. IT'S [01:15:21] GONE NOW. [01:15:22] >> It's Yeah, exactly. And but to that [01:15:25] point, I think this is why this idea of [01:15:28] running for governor is so appealing. [01:15:30] It's like [01:15:32] maybe I'm wrong for saying this, but [01:15:34] I've largely written off Washington DC. [01:15:37] >> I think that's fair. [01:15:38] >> And it's like if if the people that [01:15:41] we've put in power, now granted, I will [01:15:43] say there's some huge huge shining [01:15:45] stars. I think what Robert F. Kennedy is [01:15:47] doing [01:15:48] >> Yeah. Unbelievable. The repercussions of [01:15:50] this for the for positive health [01:15:52] benefits of Americans [01:15:54] >> will will reverberate for for for [01:15:57] generations if it can stay in place [01:15:59] >> because he's going to help an entire [01:16:02] generation of people become far more [01:16:04] healthy, live better lives, meet their [01:16:06] great grandkids potentially. Like that's [01:16:09] amazing. And have [01:16:12] clearer heads and purer spirits. Like [01:16:14] just start with like just the government [01:16:16] should not officially endorse eating [01:16:18] 1,000 lbs of sugar a year. Just that [01:16:21] right there. Flipping over the nutrition [01:16:25] tables into something that more closely [01:16:27] resembles reality. That's a huge step. [01:16:29] Reducing the vax schedule [01:16:31] >> from like you know a million vaccines [01:16:34] for the newborn to a smaller number. [01:16:37] >> You got to call that a win. That's a [01:16:38] win. [01:16:39] >> And it's also something that I think we [01:16:41] believe. Why are we even having to have [01:16:42] this fight? [01:16:43] >> Like but you you know like [01:16:46] >> somebody asked me the other day, what do [01:16:48] you think the most pressing issue facing [01:16:50] America is? And I like taking out the [01:16:53] spirit because spirituality is [01:16:54] intertwined, but taking that out, I said [01:16:57] I think it's that our government is run [01:16:59] by unelected people and we don't know [01:17:01] who they are. [01:17:02] >> Yeah. [01:17:02] >> And and I was talking [01:17:04] >> without our best interest at heart at [01:17:06] all. [01:17:06] And so this idea of America first, of [01:17:08] Iowa first, it's like to many of us, [01:17:10] this is just common sense. It's like [01:17:13] this is what the country was set up for. [01:17:15] What's the other form of government [01:17:16] that's legitimate? I can't think of one. [01:17:18] If if this is a democratic republic and [01:17:21] the government is acting in an interest [01:17:24] that's not our interest, how is that [01:17:25] legitimate? How is that not grounds for, [01:17:28] you know, anyway, um, right? There's no [01:17:31] other legitimate form of government but [01:17:34] America first or Iowa first. Like [01:17:36] there's that's the only option. [01:17:38] >> And and how we got away from that is [01:17:40] unbelievable. And like look, I was [01:17:41] talking to my dad about some of these [01:17:43] things the other day. And [01:17:45] >> you know some things you can think and [01:17:46] know but not exactly know how to [01:17:48] describe or put into words. And [01:17:50] >> I get that feeling when I think about [01:17:53] the shift that our country clearly went [01:17:55] through after the assassination of John [01:17:57] F. Kennedy. [01:17:57] >> Well, that's it right there. It seemed [01:17:59] as if something spiritual happened at [01:18:01] that point within our country and it has [01:18:04] to do with the complete disregard for [01:18:07] truth, honesty. [01:18:10] >> Yep. [01:18:10] >> Or like the American public deserving to [01:18:13] know what's happening. And then, you [01:18:16] know, I I read a tweet one day, I don't [01:18:18] know who said it, maybe it's Russell [01:18:19] Brand or somebody that said something [01:18:20] along the lines of like the the the [01:18:22] future success of our country and the [01:18:25] Kennedys is like intertwined in some [01:18:27] way. [01:18:28] >> True. And so I it is true. I never used [01:18:31] to believe that. And I would hear these [01:18:32] baby boomers say that was the day [01:18:33] everything changed. And and they were [01:18:35] silly. Not they were not serious people, [01:18:38] but they could feel something that was [01:18:40] true. And that was clearly true. That [01:18:43] that a lot did change. Everything [01:18:44] changed when he was assassinated [01:18:47] in a way that I did not appreciate. Tell [01:18:49] was much older. And but they were they [01:18:50] were right. They were right in saying [01:18:51] that. And the fact that 63 years later, [01:18:55] you know, CIA still will not, this is a [01:18:57] fact, will not divulge [01:18:59] >> Yeah. [01:18:59] >> all the information that it has on his [01:19:01] murder despite a bunch of laws from [01:19:03] Congress, despite a executive order from [01:19:05] the president of the United States and a [01:19:07] year ago. They're still hiding it. [01:19:09] Clearly, there were, you know, probably [01:19:12] a lot of people involved. Probably a [01:19:13] foreign country clearly involved. Our [01:19:16] own government clearly involved. So, [01:19:18] like, and they're still lying about it. [01:19:20] It's wild. But [01:19:23] uh if the truth sets you free then lives [01:19:25] enslave the lies enslave you. Yeah the [01:19:28] overse is true. So I think we are [01:19:30] enslaved in some sense by these lies. [01:19:34] You know I think where I see this most [01:19:36] is in the newest generation of people [01:19:38] that are coming up um you know uh coming [01:19:41] of age so to speak and there's some very [01:19:44] loud voices out there that they're all [01:19:46] flocking to. one in very in particular [01:19:48] that you've interviewed and people ask [01:19:50] me all the time like why do I think that [01:19:52] is and I just say guys [01:19:55] look at the lies [01:19:56] >> exactly [01:19:57] >> look at what's happened look at the lack [01:19:58] of justice the last lack of [01:20:00] accountability like what we don't like [01:20:04] where's Fouchy [01:20:06] like what what about the Hunter Biden [01:20:08] laptop when are these people going to be [01:20:10] arrested I said this about Trump 10 [01:20:12] years ago when I lived in Washington I'm [01:20:13] a product of Washington obviously and I [01:20:15] wrote a piece basically Trump is popular [01:20:18] cuz you failed and it's not wasn't an [01:20:21] endorsement of everything Trump said [01:20:22] though I like Trump um but and voted for [01:20:24] him but it wasn't it's not about Trump [01:20:27] like Trump wouldn't have existed if the [01:20:30] system was working and the same is true [01:20:32] of the person you're referring to whose [01:20:35] name shall not be named. Um but no no [01:20:37] it's true it's like we argue about is is [01:20:40] he good or bad? Does is he you know [01:20:42] whatever but the argument is not really [01:20:44] about him. It's about the system that [01:20:45] allowed someone like that to become [01:20:47] popular. It's like why do you think [01:20:48] people are watching that? Because you [01:20:51] failed. You betrayed your own voters. [01:20:54] >> Yes. Yes. That is right. Yes. [01:20:57] >> And and look, [01:21:00] one of the biggest issues that's come up [01:21:02] is about, you know, immigration. [01:21:04] >> Yeah. It's all over. And I think for a [01:21:07] long time we have been criticized, [01:21:11] ostracized for noticing what's [01:21:13] happening. and calling it out to say [01:21:15] like what's happening [01:21:17] and and you know there's this idea of [01:21:20] replacement migration this replacement [01:21:22] theory and like like I don't ever talk [01:21:25] about this but it's like people talk [01:21:28] about it and they're immediately just [01:21:29] hammered down well in 2000 the UN put [01:21:31] out a document called replacement [01:21:34] migration [01:21:35] >> of course [01:21:36] >> 144 pages multiple languages but I read [01:21:38] this and it's like it's lining out [01:21:40] exactly what's happening and it's saying [01:21:43] Look, European nations are going to be [01:21:45] losing population. You know, like uh [01:21:47] America's be losing population. What's [01:21:49] the answer? Well, traditionally [01:21:51] throughout history, the answer is to [01:21:53] promote having more children. [01:21:55] >> Make it easier for people to have kids. [01:21:56] Make life more affordable. Bring home [01:21:59] the money that's being spent overseas [01:22:01] and use I mean, imagine you just talk [01:22:03] about Iraq and Afghanistan. Imagine what [01:22:06] our country would be if we didn't spend [01:22:08] $10 trillion on that. [01:22:11] >> Yeah. Imagine what we could have done [01:22:13] for our children [01:22:16] in our communities. [01:22:19] So when you look at this and you're and [01:22:21] you're you're called this conspir I'm [01:22:22] not called it cuz I don't ever talk [01:22:23] about this but people are called [01:22:24] conspiracy theorists for bringing up [01:22:26] this idea of replacement migration. They [01:22:28] literally wrote a white paper on it [01:22:29] >> of course [01:22:30] >> and they described what it was going to [01:22:31] do. And then you look at these people [01:22:33] that are feeling like you know [01:22:34] especially young white males like [01:22:36] they're being taken out of society. [01:22:38] They're being told they don't matter. [01:22:39] Matter of fact, they had this original [01:22:41] sin of being who they are. [01:22:44] It's unbelievable. And then you in the [01:22:46] >> Sounds like a dangerous conspiracy [01:22:47] theory. You ever look at the census [01:22:49] numbers? [01:22:50] >> Oh yeah. Right. So again, we can just [01:22:52] bring science to bear on this. Is the [01:22:53] native population being replaced? I [01:22:55] don't know. Let's check the census. [01:22:57] Answer. Yes. How about we do it by zip [01:22:59] code? I'm 56. So let's let's go back to [01:23:02] 1970. The census of 1970. Just spend an [01:23:05] afternoon reading that. And and so [01:23:07] anyone who tells you you're a bigot or [01:23:10] you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing [01:23:14] is, you know, is is not is lying and [01:23:17] probably lying in order to hurt you. [01:23:20] >> Well, and and Tucker, why? It's like, [01:23:22] well, [01:23:24] >> it's like, [01:23:26] >> why are we not allowed to have and [01:23:28] appreciate and love our culture? And why [01:23:30] are we also not allowed to let people in [01:23:32] that want to be a part of that culture? [01:23:34] That's the whole idea. People ask me how [01:23:35] to pronounce my last name, and it's L a [01:23:37] HN, but it's pronounced Lane. Well, why [01:23:39] is that? Well, my great great grandpa [01:23:41] when he came over, he wanted to keep the [01:23:43] German spelling, but he wanted to be a [01:23:45] pronounced American. And they took on [01:23:47] the American customs, and they became [01:23:49] American. [01:23:50] >> Yes, [01:23:50] >> that's what it was. And the idea that [01:23:53] we're saying that this is [01:23:54] >> How were How did uh how did the family [01:23:57] pronounce it in Germany? [01:23:58] >> I it was I was told it was pronounced [01:23:59] learn like it's and that's what I was [01:24:02] told. Someday I'm, as you could probably [01:24:04] imagine, I'm gonna go over there and dig [01:24:05] as deep as I can in all this stuff [01:24:06] because it's, you know, some people get [01:24:08] the bug for learning this about their [01:24:10] family. I am that human. Like I I love [01:24:12] this. Like I love learning about my [01:24:14] history and heritage. [01:24:16] >> And you know what, like 150 years in [01:24:19] America is a thing to be very proud of. [01:24:22] >> Yes. And but also like Yeah. They likely [01:24:25] did not want to leave where they were [01:24:26] at. They didn't want to go three three [01:24:28] weeks on a boat in the stowage, [01:24:31] >> you know, [01:24:31] >> from northern Germany. northern Germany. [01:24:33] And on my mom's side, actually the um [01:24:35] family's been here since the revolution. [01:24:37] Actually, my a great ancestor, direct [01:24:38] great ancestor died in the Revolutionary [01:24:40] War. Me, too. [01:24:42] >> And so, [01:24:43] I I these voices of people who [01:24:48] understand the culture that our [01:24:51] ancestors created and it's something to [01:24:52] be so proud of. It's so inclusive. It [01:24:54] reduces suffering. It is welcoming to [01:24:56] people. But the idea that you can come [01:24:58] in and try to put something else over [01:25:02] top of that. And Charlie Kirk said this [01:25:04] beautifully. He said something I'm going [01:25:07] to butcher his words and I'm I'm I'm [01:25:09] sorry for that. I I first met him in [01:25:11] 2011. I think we're both speaking at the [01:25:13] same event. [01:25:15] Um, I said something along the lines of [01:25:17] the reason we're in a constitutional [01:25:19] crisis is because we have a Christian [01:25:20] form of government, but we have elected [01:25:24] people that are not following that [01:25:28] custom and religion [01:25:29] >> in Christianity. And so, you're going to [01:25:31] have a constitutional crisis. You're [01:25:33] going to have fraud all over the place. [01:25:35] You're going to like your institutions [01:25:37] will break down [01:25:38] >> cuz the system was a bespoke system. It [01:25:40] was created for the people who lived [01:25:43] under it. And you've got different [01:25:44] people, so you're going to get a [01:25:45] different system. [01:25:46] >> Yeah, it it was it was created. [01:25:48] >> Not a value judgment. It's just an [01:25:49] observation. [01:25:50] >> Yeah, it was created. [01:25:52] >> Uh Zach, amazing amazing conversation. [01:25:55] I'm intentionally not going to ask you [01:25:57] about the politics of it. You're going [01:25:58] to have plenty of time to talk about [01:26:00] that. Um but I think this is [01:26:03] gives, you know, any anyone who has [01:26:06] again watched to this point is either, [01:26:09] you know, like, "Oh my gosh, I'm sending [01:26:11] this man money." OR STOP HIM. [01:26:14] Um uh but I am interested like when [01:26:18] really quick last question what is the [01:26:20] process from here on out? [01:26:22] >> Yeah. So our primary elections June 2nd. [01:26:25] Okay. [01:26:25] >> And then uh if if we win the primary [01:26:28] then the elections in November. [01:26:29] >> How many people in the primary? [01:26:31] >> There's five people in the primary right [01:26:32] now. Um and so I believe we have a [01:26:35] really really good shot at this. And I [01:26:36] believe our message the time for the [01:26:38] message that we're saying is now. and [01:26:41] that I there's been a um [01:26:46] I think there there's there's been a [01:26:47] void that's been there and people are [01:26:51] wanting politicians and people running [01:26:53] for office cuz I've never ran for [01:26:54] office. I'm not a politician. They're [01:26:56] wanting people that will speak truth to [01:26:58] them and that will talk about the big [01:27:00] issues even if the donors and the [01:27:03] special interests say I've told them I [01:27:05] don't want your money. I I'm not looking [01:27:07] for your money. I'm actually you [01:27:10] I'm actually here to stop a lot of the [01:27:12] practices that you're putting in place. [01:27:15] And so I've said I'm my own biggest [01:27:16] donor to this campaign. I will not be [01:27:18] bought. It won't happen. [01:27:20] So boy, they're going to try and stop [01:27:22] you. Um it's not radicalism that scares [01:27:26] them. It's it's quiet sincere [01:27:28] determination. Uh I would say so. [01:27:31] Godspeed. Thank you. Thank you.
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[00:00:04] So, you're running for governor of Iowa, [00:00:07] and we can get into the whole politics [00:00:08] of that uh maybe later, but I'm [00:00:10] interested in why, [00:00:13] you know, I think um I think the the [00:00:16] primary catalyst for me doing this was I [00:00:19] believe we are losing our culture and [00:00:21] our heritage as a people. That's my [00:00:22] honest belief. And I believe it's not [00:00:24] just in Iowa, it's across the country. [00:00:27] But when I look around and see people [00:00:29] that were running for office, it was all [00:00:31] about policy. It's all about here's this [00:00:33] tax rate or you know this regulation [00:00:35] needs to be changed and I just thought [00:00:38] no one is standing up to say we have to [00:00:40] get the culture right first. We have to [00:00:43] step in and say what does it mean to be [00:00:45] an American? What does it mean to be an [00:00:46] Ian? And are the traditions and the [00:00:50] heritage and the value of our ancestors [00:00:52] important to us? [00:00:54] And that's the in the deepest part of my [00:00:57] heart what motivates me in something [00:00:59] like this. I actually don't want to be a [00:01:01] politician. I bet I've not had interest [00:01:04] in it. You know, I uh spent a lot of my [00:01:06] life in the private sector and building [00:01:08] schools and uh I have a I have a pretty [00:01:11] good life. I have a great family and a [00:01:13] wife who loves me and supports me. Uh [00:01:16] but you know in um you know uh 1850 my [00:01:20] family came over from Germany and great [00:01:22] great grandpa built our farmhouse uh and [00:01:25] we had that same house on this piece of [00:01:27] land in Iowa until 2005 [00:01:30] and my great-grandmother passed away and [00:01:32] I can still remember my grandma called [00:01:34] me and she said, "Zack, you wouldn't [00:01:36] want anything to this old farmhouse, [00:01:37] would you?" And I had, you know, [00:01:39] graduated from high school in Iowa. I [00:01:40] was off in college and I said, "No, I'm [00:01:42] I'm there's something better out here. [00:01:44] I'm I'm off to get something to find [00:01:46] something better. [00:01:48] And then uh a number of years later, I [00:01:50] was driving by to see my other [00:01:52] great-grandmother who lived to be 103. [00:01:54] Um and I drove by the old farm and I [00:01:57] just drove up. I said, "Hey, could I [00:01:58] take a look around?" And they said, [00:02:00] "Yeah." I said, "You know, my great [00:02:01] great grandpa built this. He was a [00:02:03] thirdass passenger on the SS Wand coming [00:02:06] from Hamburg, Germany as a 14-year-old. [00:02:08] He was in the stowage. That's where he [00:02:10] traveled over to America. and uh he [00:02:13] became a carpenter and then earned [00:02:15] enough money to buy the farm and build [00:02:16] it with his uncle. And I said, "Hey, if [00:02:19] you're ever thinking about selling it, [00:02:20] will you please let me know and it I [00:02:23] just didn't think anything coming that [00:02:24] that time." But uh a couple years later, [00:02:26] they called me and said, "Hey, we're [00:02:28] going to sell this farm. Would you [00:02:29] want?" I'm like, "Yes." I don't know how [00:02:30] I'm going to do it, but uh I end up [00:02:32] scraping together enough money to get an [00:02:35] FHA loan, a down payment, and I bought [00:02:38] the farm. And then since that time in [00:02:41] 2014, I've been working to re rebuild it [00:02:44] and restore it. And is the house still [00:02:46] there? [00:02:46] >> House is still there. You know, when I [00:02:48] bought it, it was, you know, covered in [00:02:49] vinyl. It it it had been completely [00:02:51] changed on the outside. Um [00:02:54] >> Yeah. 150 years is a long time. [00:02:55] >> Yeah. And and being completely changed [00:02:58] the outside. But I went to my my dad's [00:03:01] cousin Peter and he just kind of had the [00:03:04] repository of great grandma's photos. [00:03:06] And so I got this pallet of boxes of [00:03:08] photos and I spent I'm not I'm not [00:03:11] kidding hundreds of hours going through [00:03:12] photos and I was looking for every photo [00:03:14] I could find of this old farmhouse. And [00:03:16] I'll tell you to anybody who wants to be [00:03:18] radicalized on what we've lost as a [00:03:22] culture, spend that much time going [00:03:24] through your great-grandmother's photos. [00:03:26] >> Yeah. [00:03:26] >> And you'll realize the community, the [00:03:29] traditions, the pride. [00:03:32] I've done it. [00:03:33] >> A lot of it's gone. [00:03:35] It's unrecognizable. [00:03:36] >> unrecognizable. And so I did that and uh [00:03:39] I found every single picture I could [00:03:40] find and I put the house back together [00:03:42] board by board, counted every single [00:03:44] piece of sighting, make sure it matched, [00:03:46] and now we live in the home that was [00:03:49] built by my great great-grandfather. Um, [00:03:52] and I I tell people I didn't do that so [00:03:54] I could run for governor. I mean, the I [00:03:56] started doing this over 10 years ago. [00:03:59] I did it because I wanted my children to [00:04:01] understand their story and that their [00:04:04] heritage and their culture, what built [00:04:06] them, the man who built this house, who [00:04:10] I bet hoped someday my kids would live [00:04:12] in it. Yes. But knew he would never meet [00:04:15] them, that that story matters deeply. [00:04:20] And so that's what really got me into [00:04:22] this. you know, uh, I was not looking to [00:04:25] run for for this seat. And as I was [00:04:28] talking to my wife about this, the [00:04:30] current governor of Iowa, who by the way [00:04:32] has done a very good job. I mean, we're [00:04:35] likely other than Florida, maybe the one [00:04:37] of the most conservative states, and [00:04:39] she's done a great job at that. [00:04:40] >> He's a nice person. [00:04:41] >> Yeah. Um, you know, when um we were [00:04:46] looking at this, my wife said, you know, [00:04:47] the seat hasn't been open in 20 years. [00:04:50] And there are issues in our state that [00:04:52] are not dealing with taxes, that are not [00:04:54] dealing with regulations, that are [00:04:55] systemic, deep issues [00:04:58] that are really causing our people to be [00:05:01] hurt. [00:05:02] And I talk about them all the time. And [00:05:04] it was kind of from her this moment of [00:05:06] hey, [00:05:07] you know, put up or stop talking about [00:05:10] it because this is an opportunity to go [00:05:13] make real change. And so that's why I'm [00:05:15] running. [00:05:17] So you said there are systemic issues [00:05:18] that are not included in the normal [00:05:21] pallet of politician concerns, which [00:05:22] would be taxes and regulation. [00:05:24] >> How just in order of importance, can you [00:05:26] go through a few of them? Well, I think [00:05:29] you know I I've spent my life uh in [00:05:31] large part as an entrepreneur and uh in [00:05:33] businesses organization I've run or [00:05:35] started I have key metrics that I'm [00:05:37] tracking to know the health of my my [00:05:39] companies or the health of an [00:05:41] organization [00:05:42] you know I think I think on that list [00:05:44] for a state is the physical climate of [00:05:47] it that's no doubt that's part of it [00:05:49] like can people afford to live here yes [00:05:51] that's a big part of course but the [00:05:54] other there's other deeper issues that I [00:05:56] think are more long- term firm and focus [00:05:58] that we, you know, because of this like [00:06:00] constant news cycle of what's happening [00:06:02] right now that we all have to respond [00:06:04] to, which thank god I'm not running for [00:06:06] a federal office because it's like never [00:06:08] ending and always changing. [00:06:11] But because of um because of that, often [00:06:14] we're distracted or our eyes are taken [00:06:16] off the ball purposefully from the big [00:06:17] issues. And a couple of them are this. [00:06:20] Iowa's number four in the nation for net [00:06:22] out migration of our kids 25 to 29. [00:06:25] >> Yeah. How can you build a state if your [00:06:27] people are leaving? [00:06:29] Important new people. Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:32] Yes, we can talk about that. Um, another [00:06:36] one would be, you know, 25% of our [00:06:38] farmlands now owned by out of state [00:06:40] investors and funds that don't live in [00:06:42] our state. So, our farmers who have had [00:06:45] this ancestral connection to the land [00:06:49] are now becoming tenants again. [00:06:50] something we left Germany in large part [00:06:53] for. [00:06:55] You know, just take a side quest here [00:06:58] for a second. I remember when I was [00:07:00] doing a lot of that research in my [00:07:01] family to understand a lot about the [00:07:04] history and uh and what drove them to [00:07:07] leave this homeland of theirs, you know, [00:07:09] cuz I always made up, you know, 3540% [00:07:11] German immigrants came over, very [00:07:13] industrious people, very family oriented [00:07:15] people, uh people that had pride in the [00:07:17] work that they do. objectively some of [00:07:20] the best people ever. I would I would [00:07:23] say that [00:07:23] >> I'm not one of them, but I just I I just [00:07:25] have noticed. [00:07:26] >> Oh, big on tradition and and um and big [00:07:30] on family and uh a lot of pride in where [00:07:33] they came from. So, what would motivate [00:07:35] people to leave? And you know, I think [00:07:37] the common answer we always heard was [00:07:38] well, it's religious persecution. And [00:07:41] so, I started to get interested in this [00:07:42] just to understand more what were the [00:07:45] real conditions. And I actually found [00:07:47] out that uh you know my family a lot of [00:07:50] Germans came over around 1850. [00:07:53] Well in 1848 in Germany [00:07:56] there was an attempted revolution [00:07:59] >> across across Europe. [00:08:00] >> Across Europe. Yes. And it was called [00:08:03] the 48ers. And what did they want? They [00:08:05] well they wanted to be able to own the [00:08:07] ground under their feet. They wanted [00:08:08] free speech. They didn't like slavery. [00:08:10] They had a lot of these you know now [00:08:12] what we call western ideals. [00:08:13] >> It was the end of feudalism. Right. [00:08:15] >> Yes. Right. And so what happened to [00:08:18] them? They were defeated. And so in [00:08:21] Germany when they're defeated, many of [00:08:22] them got exiled and then many others [00:08:24] just left. Well, what state came online [00:08:27] in 1846 was Iowa. And it was also very [00:08:30] agrarian just like where they came from. [00:08:33] And so many people came over. And I like [00:08:35] to talk about this that you know [00:08:40] uh one of the key points in Iowa's [00:08:43] history that I'm most proud of [00:08:46] is how Ians responded during the Civil [00:08:48] War. So, you know, uh we had the [00:08:51] Missouri Compromise. We had the Kansas [00:08:54] Nebraska Act. Um, and with that with [00:08:57] that decision of, you know, they sort of [00:08:58] get to decide whether or not they're [00:09:00] going to be free or slave, [00:09:03] there was a lot of wealthy landowning [00:09:06] elites that were rushing to the Midwest [00:09:08] to try to lobby to create slave states, [00:09:12] >> of course, [00:09:13] >> and this Iowa [00:09:15] >> plantations on the prairie, [00:09:16] >> right? And Iowa was not a part of this, [00:09:19] you know. Um, [00:09:21] but [00:09:23] one of my favorite stories in 1861, the [00:09:25] governor of Iowa, his name was uh, [00:09:26] Governor Samuel Kirkwood, he was on his [00:09:29] plow in his field when a messenger from [00:09:32] the Department of War brought a a [00:09:35] message on horseback to him and in it [00:09:37] the president said he needed to uh, put [00:09:39] together a company of 750 troops to be [00:09:43] ready in 2 weeks. And mind you, this is [00:09:46] 15 years after Iowa became a state. I [00:09:48] mean, we're in our infancy. [00:09:51] And he said, [00:09:53] 750 troops in two weeks. How can that be [00:09:55] done? And two weeks later, 10,000 Ians [00:09:58] had signed up. By the end of the Civil [00:10:00] War, more Ians fought in the Civil War [00:10:03] than any other state per capita. Why was [00:10:05] that? I believe and there's some [00:10:08] evidence of course I I read deeply in [00:10:10] this that they had just left a country [00:10:13] that they saw oppression in and they [00:10:16] fled that left everything and they were [00:10:19] saying this isn't going to happen here [00:10:21] and so I think when you talk about land [00:10:23] and you talk about now 25% of our land [00:10:26] is now owned by people that don't live [00:10:27] in our state they're not contributing to [00:10:29] our communities they don't go to the [00:10:31] football games they're not shopping on [00:10:32] Main Street it's a real generational [00:10:36] issue and I go to these auctions. I've [00:10:39] bid against many of these people. [00:10:41] >> Land auctions. [00:10:42] >> Oh yeah. And very often it's a farm [00:10:46] management company. The actual owner. We [00:10:48] don't know who they are. [00:10:50] We actually don't know who owns our land [00:10:52] in Iowa. There's not human level [00:10:54] disclosure that's required. [00:10:57] So you can own land in an LLC [00:11:00] and that LLC could be wholly owned by a [00:11:03] trust and all the state knows is that [00:11:06] the LLC owns the land. That's it. And so [00:11:10] we've gotten to this place where [00:11:13] just common courtesy or you know just [00:11:15] common tradition of knowing who your [00:11:17] neighbors are is not there anymore. [00:11:19] >> Well, it's impossible. [00:11:20] >> Yeah. in in in [00:11:24] can't find their names, it's kind of [00:11:25] hard to have a community. It's buried. [00:11:28] America's ranchers helped build this [00:11:30] country. For over 250 years, ranchers [00:11:33] fed America through droughts, wars, [00:11:35] pandemics, every other kind of chaos. [00:11:38] Our friends at Good Ranchers built their [00:11:40] company on that honorable legacy. Good [00:11:43] Ranchers is a meat company. It's 100% [00:11:45] committed to America. 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You [00:13:17] know, I I was my father was a 30-year [00:13:19] conservationist and a pastor. And um I [00:13:23] grew up like learning to love and [00:13:26] appreciate the place. I I tell I've said [00:13:28] this before, but you know, he [00:13:31] legitimately made me believe that every [00:13:33] sunset was made for me by God. Amen. we [00:13:35] would we'd be driving and say, "Look at [00:13:36] what God made for you." And I still [00:13:38] think to those things to this day of [00:13:40] just like those little pieces that made [00:13:42] me appreciate creation. And one of my [00:13:44] favorite clips from your show ever, ever [00:13:48] is when you were on with uh Bobby [00:13:49] Kennedy and he was having that [00:13:51] discussion about how nature is how we [00:13:53] connect deeply with God. [00:13:55] >> Yeah, it makes me emotional thinking [00:13:56] about it. I couldn't agree more. I sent [00:13:58] that to so many people and especially my [00:13:59] father because it it's true and it's [00:14:03] language we don't use anymore. [00:14:05] It brings you to a higher place and it [00:14:07] helps you understand like [00:14:09] >> this is much deeper than just who owns a [00:14:12] piece of land or what's happening. It's [00:14:14] it's actually like we are connected to [00:14:16] God through the land through his [00:14:19] creation. It's on every page of the [00:14:20] Bible from Genesis to Revelation. It's [00:14:22] there's a lot of nature. [00:14:24] >> It's what's what's the Garden of Eden [00:14:26] filled with? Trees, rivers, [00:14:29] >> animals. Right. Okay. [00:14:30] >> And all the parables that have to do [00:14:32] with that. Of course. So, so that of [00:14:34] course the that's a systemic issue and [00:14:36] let me say that that's been going on for [00:14:38] a long time and nobody's really talked [00:14:41] about it. You go to a cafe, every farmer [00:14:43] is talking about these things about [00:14:44] like, oh, you see the We had a piece of [00:14:46] land in Northwest Iowa uh recently go [00:14:48] for $32,000 an acre. Not development [00:14:51] land. [00:14:53] Okay. I'm interested I'm a land buyer. [00:14:55] I'm interested in land. I'm interested, [00:14:57] you know, and all that. [00:14:59] How do you get to $32,000 an acre even [00:15:02] for, you know, famously productive [00:15:04] farmland? Like, what is that? What's the [00:15:07] potential return on that? How did that [00:15:09] happen? [00:15:10] >> Well, let's just say commonly we'll go [00:15:12] to $20,000 an acre. That's fairly common [00:15:14] in Northwest Iowa. It's some of the best [00:15:16] land in the world. Bonkers. [00:15:17] >> It is. It is. And so, you know, look, PE [00:15:21] outside investors look at Iowa as as a [00:15:23] great investment because it's a solid [00:15:26] asset. [00:15:26] >> Yes. It's a hedge against the dollar of [00:15:27] course [00:15:28] >> and you get a dividend like you rent out [00:15:30] the land like and so one of the things I [00:15:33] I kind of complain or real pine about a [00:15:35] lot is that our land isn't an asset [00:15:37] class. It's actually was meant as the [00:15:40] inheritance for the sons and daughters [00:15:42] of our state to build their lives, their [00:15:44] communities, and their families. And [00:15:46] when they're tenants on that land and [00:15:48] they're paying high dollar rent, because [00:15:50] the only way you can justify high a high [00:15:52] uh price like that is very high rent. [00:15:55] um you you're stripping away a lot of go [00:16:00] back to say it's like kind of the [00:16:01] spiritual aspect of this and that land [00:16:04] is best when it's owned and farmed by [00:16:07] the same person. it. We know this. We [00:16:10] know this from if you own rental [00:16:12] properties or whatever it might be. Like [00:16:14] there's a connection of stewardship that [00:16:16] comes with that to know that I'm passing [00:16:18] this piece of ground on to my grandkids [00:16:20] and their kids and their kids and that's [00:16:22] what it should be. But that that is [00:16:24] being actively taken away in our state. [00:16:28] And so two other things that I I think [00:16:31] are big systemic issues that are on my [00:16:32] scorecard as I'd say is one is our [00:16:36] farmers are actively being exploited by [00:16:39] big egg companies. When I was growing up [00:16:41] uh born in Iowa, we had over 300 seed [00:16:46] and input companies, you know, [00:16:48] fertilizer and and agrochemical [00:16:50] companies that were selling to our [00:16:51] farmers. Today that number's three that [00:16:54] control 85% of the market. Over 90% of [00:16:58] seed technology is owned by two [00:17:00] companies. [00:17:01] >> Monsanto [00:17:02] >> actually it's uh Bayer and Corteva own [00:17:05] 90% of this of the uh which owns [00:17:08] Monsanto now. Yeah. [00:17:09] >> See technology. [00:17:10] >> No I of course but I forgot that [00:17:12] Monsanto doesn't actually exist anymore. [00:17:14] Does it? [00:17:14] >> I don't think so. [00:17:15] >> They changed the name. Yeah. It was [00:17:17] bought by Bear in Germany. [00:17:18] >> Yeah. They're they're sure mentioned a [00:17:20] lot in court still but yeah they're not [00:17:22] um they're not a company. [00:17:24] So if you look at the long-term trend [00:17:29] that anytime there's a rise in commodity [00:17:31] prices, these input costs go up even [00:17:33] though there's not a direct correlating [00:17:35] factor. You know, there's a study out of [00:17:38] the University of Illinois and this [00:17:40] study compared the cost of farming in [00:17:42] Brazil to the cost of farming in [00:17:45] Illinois, Iowa basically. And you have [00:17:49] to understand that the three big [00:17:50] companies in America that provide these [00:17:53] inputs are also the same three big [00:17:54] companies of Brazil. Bayer, Corteva, and [00:17:56] Sententa. [00:17:58] That study said that for growing corn [00:18:02] using the same application rate that [00:18:05] they're charging Brazilian farmers about [00:18:08] $150 less per acre than they are Iowa [00:18:11] farmers. How? [00:18:14] Well, the real answer is because they're [00:18:16] an unchecked monopoly and competition [00:18:18] doesn't exist. There's tacic collusion. [00:18:21] But he here's how it actually works. [00:18:24] They they have what they call [00:18:25] regionalbased pricing. [00:18:27] But what it really is is this. When they [00:18:30] look at uh their pricing, they base it [00:18:33] on the yield that you're going to [00:18:34] create. So let's say you have more [00:18:36] productive land, even though you're [00:18:38] using the same amount of product, [00:18:39] they're going to take more. you have [00:18:41] less productive land even though you use [00:18:43] the same amount of product, they're [00:18:44] going to take more. [00:18:46] It's [00:18:48] it's wrong, you know, and I will I will [00:18:51] give credit to Brooke Rollins and Donald [00:18:53] Trump and the administration. They're [00:18:54] talking about bringing antirust and and [00:18:57] investigating this with Department of [00:18:58] Justice. And one of the things I pledged [00:19:00] to do that if I'm governor of Iowa, I'm [00:19:03] going to lead the charge to bring [00:19:05] antitrust suits against these companies [00:19:07] that are exploiting our farmers because [00:19:10] they're taking every dollar they [00:19:12] possibly can. [00:19:14] And we're already on life support. I [00:19:16] mean, many many most farms are operating [00:19:19] at a loss right now. [00:19:22] And when you talk to farmers about this, [00:19:24] you do not and like I can't emphasize [00:19:27] this enough, you do not hear them talk [00:19:29] about tariffs. They're not. Matter of [00:19:31] fact, the price of soybeans this year [00:19:33] with the tariffs was higher than it was [00:19:35] last year before the tariffs. The change [00:19:38] came that the cost of growing went up. I [00:19:40] mean, the cost of the input products [00:19:42] that they're that they're using went up. [00:19:44] And so I I tell people all the time, the [00:19:47] tariffs are not the issue. [00:19:50] We have to get this unchecked monopoly [00:19:52] under in check and under control. [00:19:56] >> Obviously inputs are essential uh to [00:19:59] agriculture well to any creating [00:20:01] anything. Um one of them is diesel fuel. [00:20:05] Not a lot of movement there. But then [00:20:07] you have the products that you just [00:20:10] mentioned seeds and fertilizer. [00:20:14] Taking out seeds. Let's just focus on [00:20:15] fertilizer. What are the products like? [00:20:19] Well, um I mean it just depends on on [00:20:21] the most common product, you know, for [00:20:23] fertilizers in hydro ammonia. It's uh [00:20:26] used in the fall. It's where a lot of [00:20:28] lot of um the nitrogen comes from. But [00:20:30] then you have other products uh that [00:20:32] are, you know, uh you know, um products [00:20:36] from Earth, you know, potassium, pot [00:20:38] ash, uh those things. Uh but you look at [00:20:42] the the trend of the pricing in these [00:20:44] you know um I think it was five years [00:20:46] ago in the past five years nitrogen [00:20:48] fertilizers went up 150% and the price [00:20:51] of corn's down 2%. [00:20:54] So farmers are they're really being I [00:20:56] would say extorted in this process. 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And I was with [00:22:22] the ranch manager and um in a truck and [00:22:24] he said, "This is the truck we used to [00:22:26] spray Roundup." And I said, "People [00:22:29] using Roundup? I don't You know, I'm not [00:22:30] in the egg business. I thought Roundup [00:22:32] was bad. [00:22:34] >> Yeah. [00:22:34] >> Again, I'm I'm very ignorant, but I just [00:22:37] thought I didn't realize that people [00:22:38] were still spraying Roundup. He said, [00:22:40] "Oh, everyone sprays Roundup. Like, [00:22:41] everybody does." And we kind of don't [00:22:43] talk about it. And I'm like, "Hm, [00:22:45] I mean, is that I'm not attacking [00:22:47] Roundup specifically, but like are we [00:22:50] sure that these chemicals are all safe?" [00:22:52] Well, you know, well, Roundup is the [00:22:54] most uh high it's the most highly used [00:22:59] herbicide in the history of the country [00:23:00] or history of the world. [00:23:01] >> It's so effective. I mean, I've seen [00:23:03] >> it's been it's losing its effectiveness [00:23:04] greatly. It now has Oh, yeah. It has to [00:23:06] be Yeah. You'll have um different [00:23:08] mixtures now that'll go in because [00:23:10] they're we're getting Roundup resist [00:23:12] glyphosate resistant weeds and now [00:23:14] there's a high percentage of weeds have [00:23:16] glyphosate resistance. So, you know, you [00:23:18] know, I think in some ways the life [00:23:20] cycle of Roundup is is is kind of it's [00:23:24] going to be coming to an end on its own [00:23:25] at some point. Limited by nature. [00:23:26] >> It's limited by nature and new products [00:23:28] are coming out. But I will tell you this [00:23:30] >> when you talk about safety of products. [00:23:32] Well, let me back up and and just talk [00:23:34] about uh the companies. I mentioned the [00:23:36] three big companies that are controlling [00:23:37] the egg input market. Bayer, Cortevans, [00:23:39] and there's other ones, but [00:23:41] Bayer is a German company. [00:23:43] >> Yes, Corteva is an American company. top [00:23:47] shareholders of Black Rockck, Vanguard [00:23:49] and State Street of that company. But [00:23:51] Senta [00:23:53] is a wholly owned state enterprise of [00:23:56] the Chinese government actually [00:23:58] >> 100%. [00:23:59] So about somewhere on the on the uh end [00:24:02] of 5 million acres in our state [00:24:06] has chemicals and seed technology [00:24:10] from a company that's a wholly owned [00:24:12] company of the state of China, the [00:24:15] country of China. [00:24:17] So I mentioned that to say this. If you [00:24:19] talk to farmers about some of these [00:24:22] products and you know uh like I said [00:24:24] glyphosate or Roundup is you know very [00:24:27] ubiquitous to see used [00:24:29] but if you talk to them about products [00:24:31] even many of them won't use anymore [00:24:34] you'll get to products like Parakquad. [00:24:37] Parakquad is uh actually it was really [00:24:39] originally formulated by Sententa. [00:24:43] Quot was used in uh anti-drug [00:24:47] spraying in Latin America. It was very [00:24:49] controversial for that [00:24:50] >> and it and it it'll burn down plants in [00:24:53] a matter of hours. [00:24:55] >> But it but if you're exposed to paraquad [00:25:00] your chance of Parkinson's doubles. [00:25:02] Matter of fact, [00:25:04] >> actually [00:25:04] >> Oh yes. [00:25:05] >> Parkinson's there's people if you [00:25:07] >> that's something you don't want to get. [00:25:08] >> No. And if if you go on X and you type [00:25:10] in and you just like look at parakqua, [00:25:12] you'll find stories of farmers who just [00:25:14] will not use it anymore. They'll they'll [00:25:16] tell stories of, you know, spraying it [00:25:18] and immediately getting like or that day [00:25:20] getting like uncontrollable bloody [00:25:21] noses. It's it's a very very harsh [00:25:24] product and it's still spray. I think [00:25:26] the estimate the best estimate is about [00:25:27] 300,000 acres of of land in Iowa use [00:25:30] this product. This product is actually [00:25:33] used in research settings in mice and [00:25:36] rodents to induce Parkinson's. [00:25:39] Are you being serious? I'm 100% serious. [00:25:42] And our EPA, and this is where the big [00:25:45] issue lies, [00:25:47] our EPA still allows it. So, if we're [00:25:49] talking about like, are these are these [00:25:52] products harmful? Like, we we can get [00:25:54] into that more, but yes. Well, we know [00:25:57] if it doubles your chance of [00:25:59] Parkinson's, [00:26:00] you're going to have to explain the [00:26:02] upside to continue selling that product. [00:26:05] I mean, my instinct is like, well, you'd [00:26:06] ban that today. That's and I think this [00:26:08] is what what people [00:26:10] >> Parkinson's come on now that's true [00:26:12] suffering it yeah it's it's a sentence [00:26:14] you don't want [00:26:15] >> no [00:26:16] >> but when you you can research this your [00:26:18] listeners can research this it is used [00:26:20] to induce Parkinson's in research [00:26:23] settings [00:26:25] >> I so [00:26:27] so when I talk about these products you [00:26:29] know I think what farmers want is to [00:26:32] understand the truth to like know that [00:26:34] their government is telling them the [00:26:36] truth about these products E whiz, but [00:26:38] as with many other things, the corporate [00:26:40] capture is so heavy. And so when you [00:26:42] talk about glyphosate or glyphosate [00:26:44] based herbicides, Roundup is one of [00:26:46] them. There's many glyphosate based [00:26:47] herbicides. [00:26:49] The EPA studied this for years. [00:26:52] Um, we know way more than we've ever [00:26:55] known about this. [00:26:57] And we also know that there are [00:26:59] significant risks associated with its [00:27:01] use. [00:27:03] And so, for example, one of the most uh [00:27:06] known cases is the uh case of the [00:27:09] groundskeeper in California, the first [00:27:11] major lawsuit against Monsanto. [00:27:14] And this was a uh a man who was his job [00:27:17] was to work for the school districts and [00:27:19] spray glyphosate. [00:27:22] And uh the hose broke on his on his pack [00:27:25] or his in his little cart and it end up [00:27:28] showering him with this product. [00:27:31] In a matter of months, he had lesions [00:27:33] all over his body. And he sends emails [00:27:36] to Monsanto asking, [00:27:39] "What should I do here?" I mean, they're [00:27:40] very like, "I need help." Like, not I'm [00:27:43] trying to blame you. He's like, "What? [00:27:44] How what do I do to solve this problem?" [00:27:47] Well, if you fast forward in that trial, [00:27:51] the uh when they were in the discovery [00:27:55] process, the judge agreed to make a [00:27:57] large portion of the discovery [00:27:59] confidential, meaning that it wasn't, [00:28:01] you know, wasn't to be released, but the [00:28:04] plaintiffs could uh challenge something [00:28:07] or request the disclosure of it and they [00:28:10] could request a meet and confer to talk [00:28:11] about him. [00:28:13] and they requested it at one point and [00:28:16] the Monsanto attorneys I think literally [00:28:18] said the words go away. We're not going [00:28:21] to disclose anything else. But then [00:28:23] there's Do I get to do that next time I [00:28:25] get sued? Go away. [00:28:26] >> Go away. And so but there was a [00:28:29] stipulation in there that said if they [00:28:30] didn't if Monsanto didn't put in there [00:28:33] another request to continue the [00:28:35] confidentiality within 30 days that the [00:28:37] confidentiality was waved. They forgot [00:28:40] to respond. And so now we have millions [00:28:43] of pages of documents called the [00:28:44] Monsanto papers. Millions. And in those [00:28:47] documents, it is an absolute master [00:28:50] class in corporate capture [00:28:53] to the effect of you know that email [00:28:56] that he sent to the company. They opened [00:28:58] it. They read it. They forwarded around. [00:29:00] What should we do here? And they just [00:29:01] didn't respond to him. I'm a man who's [00:29:04] like hurting, who's oh the initial [00:29:07] email. I'm covered in lesions from your [00:29:09] product. What should I do? [00:29:10] >> What should I do? Yeah, basically was [00:29:11] asking for help. They read it, forwarded [00:29:13] around. What do we do with this? Nobody [00:29:15] responded to him. And there's he sent [00:29:17] two of those emails. I believe it was [00:29:18] two. But in there's also things like [00:29:22] there was a time and place where another [00:29:24] governmental body was going to be doing [00:29:26] a study on the safety of glyphosate or [00:29:30] Roundup on uh in this case. And the EPA [00:29:35] official that Monsanto was working with [00:29:36] at the time got wind of this and in the [00:29:40] email with the with the Monsanto uh [00:29:43] official, he's recounting his [00:29:45] conversation with this EPA official. [00:29:48] And in it, he said this the official [00:29:52] said to him on the phone, he quotes an [00:29:54] email, if I can kill this, I should get [00:29:56] a medal. And he did. He prevented this [00:30:00] other governmental body from doing their [00:30:02] own independent research on the safety [00:30:04] and effectiveness of glyphosate of of [00:30:06] Route. [00:30:07] >> Come on now. This is real. This is out [00:30:09] there. This is 2000. [00:30:10] >> This is the regulator. [00:30:11] >> This is the regulator. [00:30:13] Yes. And so this is out there. And other [00:30:19] egregious examples of and I say this to [00:30:21] say this um very often I'm talking to [00:30:23] farmers who I love who are my friends [00:30:25] and my neighbors and my family and I am [00:30:27] one of them. We actively farm our own [00:30:29] land. I work with young farmers that, [00:30:32] you know, to help them have an [00:30:33] opportunity to be on land. We share [00:30:35] crop, but I'm in there. I'm doing this. [00:30:39] The most common comment I get from [00:30:40] people is if it wasn't safe, they [00:30:41] wouldn't let me use it. And I'm just [00:30:44] here to say that's a lie. Just like they [00:30:46] were captured during COVID and the [00:30:48] medical establishment captured agencies. [00:30:50] Just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting [00:30:52] right now and Donald Trump is fighting [00:30:53] right now. These agencies have been [00:30:55] captured for a long time and they've [00:30:56] been lying to the consumers about the [00:30:58] safety and efficacy of their products. [00:31:01] And my whole goal here, I'm not here to [00:31:04] sit and say we should ban X, Y, or Z. [00:31:05] That's not what I'm talking about. I [00:31:06] mean think there's certain things like [00:31:07] parakquad probably should not be used. I [00:31:10] mean [00:31:13] of Parkinson's like hard no. [00:31:15] >> Hard no. It it shouldn't be used. [00:31:18] But what I want is good science so [00:31:22] farmers can say do I want to use this [00:31:24] product and we can say should this [00:31:25] product be allowed and also know if I'm [00:31:28] going to use this product this is how it [00:31:30] should be used. I mean when you have [00:31:31] commercials I mean we we know how [00:31:33] glyphosate enters the bloodstream. We [00:31:35] know that if it if it's on your skin [00:31:37] about 30% enters your bloodstream about [00:31:41] 10% of that is is uh through cardiac [00:31:44] output. About 10% goes into your bone [00:31:46] marrow. In bone marrow, glyosate [00:31:50] disrupts the replication of hematopoetic [00:31:52] stem cells. Then they're differentiating [00:31:54] from red to white. It's genotoxic. [00:31:57] There's 50 studies that show this. Like [00:31:59] we know how it happens. And yet there's [00:32:00] commercials showing people using this [00:32:03] product in flip flops and shorts just [00:32:05] saying like be cavalier about it. [00:32:09] We have many products we use. You go [00:32:10] into my shop at the farm, there's many [00:32:12] products on the shelf that if they're [00:32:14] used improperly are bad for your health [00:32:17] and they warn about that on the label. [00:32:21] These do not, not in that same way. [00:32:25] But in these papers were also examples [00:32:28] like this. [00:32:30] In 2000, there was a study called the [00:32:32] Williams study. It's the most cited [00:32:35] study on the safety of glyphosate. The [00:32:37] most cited. 99.9% of all papers that [00:32:41] cite the safety of glyphosate cite this [00:32:43] study. [00:32:45] Last month, that study was retracted [00:32:48] because it was found that Monsanto [00:32:50] executives wrote it. [00:32:52] Wrote the study. But here's here's maybe [00:32:55] even the worst part. We found that out [00:32:57] in 2017 and it was retracted in 2025. [00:33:02] The Monsanto executive actually said [00:33:04] when he's sending this back, he better [00:33:06] not have any revisions. [00:33:10] That's what he said. And so, look, [00:33:14] you know, I think often times when you [00:33:15] talk about the subject, especially in my [00:33:17] home state, there's this desire to paint [00:33:20] you as some liberal hippie that doesn't [00:33:23] like farming. Like, I'm the exact [00:33:25] opposite of that. [00:33:26] >> I can tell. [00:33:27] >> I actually think that wokeism is a [00:33:29] mental disorder that's trying to destroy [00:33:31] our country, [00:33:32] >> of course. [00:33:32] >> And that we have got to fight to protect [00:33:34] our culture, our people, and our [00:33:36] heritage. [00:33:38] But I also believe that our government [00:33:40] has been captured in large part and this [00:33:42] is one of the most egregious examples. [00:33:44] It's really simple. If you know why do [00:33:46] you love the country? One of the reasons [00:33:48] you love it is because of its physical [00:33:50] beauty. The landscape. I mean America is [00:33:53] great because it's got great people and [00:33:55] because it's inherently great. Just [00:33:57] beautiful. And anyone who's despoiling [00:33:59] nature is an enemy of the country. Super [00:34:01] simple. Anyone building ugly buildings, [00:34:03] spraying poisonous chemicals, those are [00:34:05] our enemies. Those are not our friends. [00:34:08] I I don't think it's complicated at all. [00:34:10] And that's that's not the liberal [00:34:11] position. The liberals are the ones who [00:34:13] are putting solar, you know, bulldozing [00:34:15] trees to build solar farms. [00:34:17] >> Yeah. [00:34:17] >> Let's just be clear about what this is. [00:34:20] It's an aggressive, coordinated effort [00:34:23] to defile God's creation by people who [00:34:26] hate God. 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That's we like and you're right [00:36:33] like in we are the environmentalists. [00:36:36] Like obviously [00:36:37] >> we are the people that that want to keep [00:36:39] that and keep God's creation. [00:36:40] >> Bernie Sanders spends a lot of time [00:36:42] outside. You think AOC can identify a [00:36:44] tree species? I mean, these are people [00:36:46] who are rejecting nature, rejecting [00:36:49] beauty, rejecting anything that is [00:36:52] natural and pure and trying to defile [00:36:54] it. That's their program. [00:36:55] >> Yeah. Well, and they they've been [00:36:58] completely captured by this idea of [00:37:01] carbon, [00:37:02] >> but it's it's insane. And so carbon is [00:37:05] not I'm by the way admitting it right [00:37:08] now. Carbon is not the problem. Carbon [00:37:11] is the basis of life. The problem is [00:37:14] man-made poisons. [00:37:16] >> So, how's the health? Okay. So, um Iowa [00:37:19] is still primarily an a state obviously. [00:37:22] >> Yeah, we're we are absolutely. [00:37:24] >> Well, you have a in all 99 counties, [00:37:26] correct? [00:37:26] >> Yes. A is is the largest industry and [00:37:29] and kind of come to the last point of [00:37:32] like that that scorecard I mentioned to [00:37:33] you. It's like [00:37:36] >> we have the fastest rate of new cancer [00:37:39] of anywhere in the history of human [00:37:40] civilization. What? [00:37:42] >> Yes. [00:37:43] >> Can you repeat that? [00:37:44] >> We have the fastest rate of new cancer [00:37:46] of anywhere in the history of human [00:37:47] civilization. [00:37:49] >> Iowa. [00:37:49] >> Iowa. Iowa. Matter of fact, if you live [00:37:53] in one of the top counties for cancer in [00:37:56] our state, they're all rural counties. [00:37:59] Your lifetime chance of getting cancer [00:38:00] is one in two. And if you take Iowa as a [00:38:04] whole and you compare it to say a state [00:38:07] like Nevada, Nevada actually has fairly [00:38:09] low cancer rates. In any given year, [00:38:11] that is the highest smoking rate out of [00:38:13] 50 states, but one of the lowest cancer [00:38:15] rates. Iowa has very low smoking rates, [00:38:18] very low smoking rates relative [00:38:21] certainly to Nevada and has really high [00:38:24] cancer rate. I'm just just not a [00:38:27] scientist. I'm just noticing. I I just I [00:38:29] picked Nevada cuz I needed to pick a [00:38:30] state that I was like, look, Nevada has [00:38:31] the highest smoking rate in America. [00:38:33] Look it up. So if you choose to live in [00:38:36] Nevada over Iowa in any given year, your [00:38:39] chance of getting cancer is 40% less. [00:38:42] I've I've Why have I never heard this [00:38:44] before? [00:38:44] >> 40%. If you take the top county for [00:38:47] cancer in our state and you compare it [00:38:49] 70% less. [00:38:51] >> Actually, [00:38:52] >> actually [00:38:54] is the top county in a county. [00:38:55] >> Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. [00:38:56] >> It's not De Moine. [00:38:57] >> No, no, no, no. The actually there's [00:38:59] lower rates of cancer. I mean per capita [00:39:01] of course in those in those places for [00:39:04] real in your population centers they [00:39:05] have lower cancer [00:39:07] >> it's uh the top 10 counties are all [00:39:09] rural counties so you can say that [00:39:11] people who are spending the day outside [00:39:13] getting physical exercise 12 months a [00:39:15] year when those people have higher [00:39:17] cancer rates than someone working in a [00:39:20] cube in De Moines then you start to [00:39:22] think maybe there are external factors [00:39:24] we should be looking at you know as I've [00:39:27] brought this up I find myself this is So [00:39:30] interesting. I find myself with with a [00:39:32] genuine care because like I said, I'm [00:39:34] not trying to tell farmers how they have [00:39:36] to farm. I'm not trying to tell [00:39:37] everybody they have to farm like me. [00:39:38] Like we run a regenerative farm. Lots of [00:39:40] it's organic. My goal is to help Ians [00:39:44] live longer, healthier lives. Help [00:39:46] farmers make more money and help kids [00:39:49] stay on farms for longer. Sounds like [00:39:51] it's the farmers who are being abused [00:39:52] here. They're the victims here. [00:39:54] >> 100%. [00:39:55] >> They're the ones getting cancer. [00:39:56] >> It's 100%. And that and that's that's [00:39:58] you know and I'll talk to farmers about [00:39:59] this or I'll talk to people that you [00:40:01] maybe are big in the egg community and [00:40:03] they hear these talking points and [00:40:05] they'll say like applicators of these [00:40:07] products have lower cancer rates and [00:40:10] they're not wrong. That's actually an [00:40:12] accurate statement. Meaning farmers in [00:40:15] general as a whole can have lower cancer [00:40:17] rates. But when you hone in specifically [00:40:19] on non-hodkkins lymphoma leukemia they [00:40:22] have much higher cancer rates. the [00:40:24] lifestyle of the job is going to give [00:40:27] you more exercise. It's going to put you [00:40:29] out. And so there are these things that [00:40:31] lower it, but you hear these industry [00:40:32] talking points about like actually [00:40:34] there's lower lower in total. It's like [00:40:36] yeah, but your chance of getting these [00:40:38] specific cancers linked to these [00:40:40] products is much higher. And so it [00:40:46] even with the rate of cancer in our [00:40:48] state, you know, I'm in a go a [00:40:49] governor's race right now and even with [00:40:52] the rate of cancer in our state, there's [00:40:54] not one person talking about these [00:40:56] things that I'm talking about right now [00:40:58] with the likely causes of the cancer in [00:41:00] our state. We hear things like, [00:41:02] >> "You fear you'll be attacked as a [00:41:04] liberal for bringing this up?" Uh I I [00:41:06] fear most that it's not a fear but most [00:41:10] I think that the a associations [00:41:13] especially ones are not member driven [00:41:15] you know um that are constituted by [00:41:17] actual farmers [00:41:19] uh that take large checks from the [00:41:22] companies that I'm mentioning right now [00:41:24] I think the most likely scenario that [00:41:26] everybody's warned me about is they're [00:41:27] just going to come and try to destroy [00:41:28] me. [00:41:30] I'm literally here because I could get [00:41:32] into tears thinking about the people [00:41:34] that I know that have gotten cancer. My [00:41:35] own father got it. He was a he was a [00:41:37] crop consultant. So his job was to go [00:41:40] into fields, check for pests, weeds. I [00:41:43] used to do this with him as a child. So [00:41:45] I I had a lot of fun doing it. [00:41:48] He he'd write a report and he'd bring it [00:41:50] back to the farmers and this is part of [00:41:51] his job. He did it very well and this is [00:41:53] just the norm. It's what you did and [00:41:55] he'd recommend this is what you should [00:41:56] apply. He did that for over two decades [00:42:00] and he was diagnosed with one of these [00:42:02] exact types of cancer and that's what [00:42:05] really I think uh how old was he? [00:42:08] >> He was uh 60. [00:42:10] >> Ouch. [00:42:11] >> Well, Tucker, this is maybe where [00:42:13] >> Sorry. Thank you. You know, he's he's in [00:42:16] he's in remission now. Thank the Lord. [00:42:19] But this is where I think this hits home [00:42:21] spiritually too is that I think Ians and [00:42:24] myself included. I you know about three [00:42:26] and a half months ago I went back to my [00:42:28] hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for [00:42:30] the funeral of my best friend from high [00:42:32] school for his father. He died of died [00:42:34] of cancer in again in the 60s. And I [00:42:37] tell people like I don't know how many [00:42:39] more of these funerals of men and women [00:42:41] in their 60s I can go to when their [00:42:44] parents live to be 80. [00:42:46] Like we're losing the wisdom of an [00:42:48] entire generation of people. [00:42:50] >> Sure. [00:42:51] >> And and [00:42:52] >> life expectancy goes down. It's not [00:42:54] progress. [00:42:55] >> Oh. So I tell people, and this is the [00:42:57] more the political way to say it. Look, [00:42:59] we can have amazing I'll say this. I [00:43:02] often tell people, I'm not running for [00:43:05] office because of policy. I'm running [00:43:06] because of culture. And they what does [00:43:08] that mean? And I'll say, look, [00:43:11] ask a Republican in Dearbornne, [00:43:13] Michigan, how much he cares about his [00:43:14] tax rate. or does he care that the [00:43:17] Muslim call to prayers on the [00:43:18] loudspeaker five times a day and he [00:43:20] doesn't remember know where he's waking [00:43:21] up anymore and his culture is gone. [00:43:25] We have to protect our culture. Our [00:43:27] founders intended that to be the case. [00:43:29] We have a huge amount of talk about [00:43:31] founders primarily when it comes to [00:43:33] fiscal issues and things like this. We [00:43:35] forget that I think it was John Adams [00:43:38] that said something along the lines of [00:43:40] public virtue [00:43:43] is dependent on private virtue. [00:43:46] in public virtue [00:43:48] is the only foundation of a republic. [00:43:52] And so we hear these things and this is [00:43:56] a bit of a a bit of a tangent here, [00:43:57] Tucker, but I I've had to have a bit of [00:44:00] a realization on this and and to [00:44:02] understand better what's going on [00:44:04] because I grew up in an era where [00:44:07] libertarian thinking was very pervasive. [00:44:10] It was all over the place. I I agreed [00:44:12] with much of it and there's still things [00:44:13] I do agree with. I was a fellow at the [00:44:14] Kato Institute, so you don't need to [00:44:16] apologize in my presence. No, I I know [00:44:18] what you mean. [00:44:19] >> Well, it wasn't that long ago that many [00:44:20] Americans thought they were inherently [00:44:22] safe from the kinds of disasters you [00:44:23] hear about all the time in third world [00:44:25] countries. A total power loss, for [00:44:27] example, or people freezing to death in [00:44:29] their own homes. That could never happen [00:44:30] here. Obviously, it's America. [00:44:34] People are recalculating, unfortunately, [00:44:36] cuz they have no choice. The last few [00:44:38] years have taught us that. Remember when [00:44:39] the power grid in Texas failed in the [00:44:42] dead of winter? like, yeah, it happened [00:44:44] and it could happen again. So, the [00:44:46] government is not actually as reliable [00:44:48] as you'd hope they would be. And the [00:44:51] truth is, the future is unforeseeable [00:44:52] and things do seem to be getting a [00:44:54] little squirly. So, if the grid does go [00:44:56] down, you need power you can trust. Last [00:44:59] Country Supplyy's newest product is [00:45:01] designed for exactly that. The Grid [00:45:03] Doctor is a 3,300 watt battery backup [00:45:06] system that will power full-size [00:45:08] appliances, medical devices, and tools [00:45:11] with clean, reliable power. It's even [00:45:14] protected. 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And I think what that [00:46:04] amounted to is there's so many people [00:46:06] have subscribed to what I call this [00:46:08] religion of economic thinking. [00:46:11] This idea of market fundamentalism that [00:46:14] the market matters above all. And I say [00:46:16] that that's not what our ancestors [00:46:18] believe. It's not what our founders [00:46:19] believed. [00:46:19] >> So has it worked? [00:46:21] Exactly. Now, you know, I say about our [00:46:23] ancestors, they didn't come here to [00:46:24] become capitalists. They came here to [00:46:27] own the ground under their feet, to [00:46:29] build their churches and communities and [00:46:31] pass something on to the next [00:46:32] generation, [00:46:33] >> to their children, of course, [00:46:34] >> but they didn't come here to do it at [00:46:35] the detriment of their neighbors. They [00:46:37] actually came here to do it helping [00:46:39] their neighbors. [00:46:40] >> Well, you obviously are a communist. Um [00:46:43] I have to tell you the amount of [00:46:45] arguments that I hear from this [00:46:48] generation that has subscribed to this [00:46:49] religion of economic thinking which by [00:46:51] the way our founders did not support. [00:46:52] They were in favor of tariffs. They the [00:46:54] states all had laws primarily all of [00:46:57] them had laws to protect moral virtue. [00:46:59] Like this was a part of what they did. [00:47:01] They knew it and they knew because like [00:47:04] the state has a role in that. And we [00:47:07] were we are a Christian nation with a [00:47:09] Christian form of government. like our [00:47:11] constitution could not have been created [00:47:13] by any other religion. You're not [00:47:14] endowed by a creator. You're not you [00:47:16] don't have inaliable rights. [00:47:19] In Christianity, you do. The divinity of [00:47:22] individual is real. We're made in the [00:47:24] image of God. [00:47:26] And so, I have these arguments with [00:47:28] people where I'm saying, look, [00:47:31] 25% of our land owned investors, I'd [00:47:34] like to raise their property taxes. I'd [00:47:36] like to disincentivize this thing that's [00:47:39] been happening in our state. [00:47:41] and create a new category of of tax for [00:47:44] investment land for people that are [00:47:45] coming in and prospecting. [00:47:47] And I'm just this is socialism. This is [00:47:49] communism. I'm just saying [00:47:51] >> who says that [00:47:52] >> it's this is what gets me is it's [00:47:55] >> self-defense is immoral now. [00:47:57] >> Yeah. Right. [00:47:58] >> That's basically what they're saying. [00:47:59] You're not allowed to defend yourself. [00:48:01] >> Yeah. I would just say is [00:48:03] >> Iowa is not an economic zone for the [00:48:05] world or for the country. [00:48:07] >> It's not. You're upsetting me. Yes, I [00:48:10] agree. And so when I but when I say [00:48:13] this, it's often times people that were, [00:48:15] you know, that were often times it's [00:48:18] people that were really affected by the [00:48:21] economic thinking that came out of the [00:48:23] Chicago School of Economics. And I when [00:48:26] I trace much of this back, I look at [00:48:28] what happened in the 1980s. I think [00:48:29] Ronald Reagan did a lot of great things, [00:48:32] but there's also this [00:48:35] market fundamentalism that really took [00:48:37] over. And then you look at what's been [00:48:40] the repercussions of that. This idea [00:48:42] that unrestrained capitalism is what we [00:48:45] worship [00:48:46] >> or that it even is capitalism [00:48:47] >> that it even is capitalism because often [00:48:49] times it's it's corporatism. [00:48:51] >> Of course, [00:48:51] >> just oligarch. Exactly. [00:48:53] >> Um or that free trade is the ideal. It's [00:48:57] like even the fathers of modern [00:48:59] economics, Adam Smith, even David [00:49:01] Ricardo, who was a person that basically [00:49:05] developed the idea of comparative [00:49:06] advantage, which is a big thing. Yes, [00:49:09] free trade is good if you protect your [00:49:11] national interest first. [00:49:14] Like [00:49:15] like for instance, the micro the silicon [00:49:17] microchip was invented by a man from [00:49:19] Iowa, Robert Noise. He's with Intel. [00:49:23] And then you look at what's happened now [00:49:25] in our country from a product that was [00:49:26] invented in our country. We produce 10% [00:49:31] of them. And all basically all of the [00:49:34] high techch versions of this we can't [00:49:37] produce. We don't have the technology. [00:49:38] So the ones that would be a military [00:49:39] application are coming from somewhere [00:49:41] else. [00:49:43] So there's this idea that that that the [00:49:46] market matters overall. I'm saying no [00:49:49] that that's not we don't worship the [00:49:51] market. Like [00:49:54] the most egregious example of this I [00:49:57] think is when you look at what happened [00:50:00] through free trade in the rust belt and [00:50:02] throughout the Midwest [00:50:05] where you had people that were told that [00:50:08] um you know their jobs were being [00:50:10] shipped overseas but they'd be replaced [00:50:13] by high-tech jobs that then they'd be [00:50:15] trained by which by the way is a lie. It [00:50:17] didn't happen. [00:50:19] Matter of fact, [00:50:21] the biggest benefits that came from that [00:50:23] were for the leaders of large companies [00:50:25] that chose to do what Adam Smith said [00:50:28] not to do, which was, you know, free [00:50:30] trade was about was about one country [00:50:33] doing something really well, another [00:50:34] country doing another thing really well, [00:50:36] right? And they exchange [00:50:38] >> it. [00:50:39] A a comparative advantage in the market [00:50:42] isn't exploitative labor conditions of a [00:50:44] communist government. [00:50:46] That's not that's not included in the [00:50:48] comparative advantages. [00:50:49] >> Not Adam Smith didn't foresee that. [00:50:51] >> No. And so like when capital's mobile [00:50:53] and you can move all of these factories [00:50:55] to one place to to [00:50:58] get cheap labor, everything's going [00:51:01] there. And then so who got rich off [00:51:03] that? Well, large companies got rich and [00:51:05] then pharmaceutical companies got rich [00:51:07] that prayed off purpose purposeless [00:51:10] white males who lost their work. Of [00:51:13] course, [00:51:14] >> in large part [00:51:14] >> the Sacklers [00:51:15] >> and it creates [00:51:16] >> still billionaires never went to jail. [00:51:19] >> And like as I say this, I I get like [00:51:22] goosebumps because it's like [00:51:25] this is just wrong. [00:51:27] >> Oh yeah. [00:51:27] >> I mean the hundreds of thousands of [00:51:30] deaths that have come from this. When [00:51:32] you take work and purpose away from [00:51:34] people and you sell them a lie that then [00:51:37] it's going to be replaced by these [00:51:38] high-tech jobs or high-tech training for [00:51:41] jobs and it doesn't happen and then you [00:51:43] have these practices where people, you [00:51:45] know, like here's a new customer, we can [00:51:47] get them addicted. [00:51:49] There's a stat I read. It's almost like [00:51:51] it was on purpose. [00:51:54] You know, [00:51:56] in 2016, [00:51:59] the World Economic Forum had that [00:52:01] article that was published still online. [00:52:02] I don't know why it's still online [00:52:04] today, but it talked about this idea [00:52:06] that in the future you'll own nothing [00:52:08] and you'll be happy. I tell people like [00:52:12] that wasn't a joke. It wasn't a threat. [00:52:14] It was a plan. [00:52:15] >> Oh, of course. [00:52:16] >> And it's happening. [00:52:17] >> Oh, I know. And so there [00:52:20] I think many people in our country just [00:52:23] feel as if there's this large plan or [00:52:27] effort that's being executed that we're [00:52:30] not privy to. [00:52:31] >> Yeah. [00:52:32] >> But we have these scops that happen that [00:52:35] like [00:52:38] that come up and uh we're fed them [00:52:42] through news or something like that to [00:52:44] get on board with it. I think what we [00:52:46] just talked about is probably a large [00:52:47] part of that. This idea that we're going [00:52:50] to take away meaningful manual labor [00:52:52] with your hands, which by the way is [00:52:54] like maybe second to farming, that type [00:52:57] of work is really gratifying because [00:52:59] you're creating a product for I do it in [00:53:00] my spare time. Like I can't wait to get [00:53:02] off work and do it, [00:53:03] >> not because I'm great at it or [00:53:05] something, but because it's so [00:53:07] rewarding. It's so refreshing. It feeds [00:53:10] something. It feeds a real hunger, I [00:53:12] think, in all men. And so, yes. No, it's [00:53:15] like my primary form of relaxation. I [00:53:17] just love it. And I think I think every [00:53:19] man feels that way. [00:53:20] >> I agree. I Man, you you look at some of [00:53:23] these uh channels on social media that [00:53:26] have taken off. Oh, yeah. [00:53:28] >> It's so much of this because it's like [00:53:30] we and they're they're like addicting. [00:53:31] It's like I love watching gosh, even the [00:53:33] bushcraft videos of people making these [00:53:35] houses. They're amazing. Or how about [00:53:37] Pakistani metalwork videos? You ever [00:53:39] watch those? That's a whole genre. Those [00:53:41] guys are amazing. I've never really [00:53:42] liked Pakistan. Spent time in Pakistan. [00:53:45] You watch those videos, you're like, I'm [00:53:47] pretty pro Pakistan. Just just the [00:53:48] ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is [00:53:50] not high by the way, but it's just like [00:53:52] these are men making things out of raw [00:53:55] materials. And it's just a thrill to [00:53:56] watch that. [00:53:57] >> Yeah. And and and they're proud of what [00:53:59] they create. [00:54:00] >> 100%. And they ought to be. [00:54:01] >> They should. And they have my respect. [00:54:03] >> Yeah. [00:54:04] >> But and me as well. And I would just say [00:54:07] that I look at this from the standpoint [00:54:10] of you'll own nothing. And I look at [00:54:12] this large narrative that's happening in [00:54:14] our country. I mean, you know this, but [00:54:16] even in Iowa, Blackstone is buying [00:54:18] single family homes. There's another [00:54:20] company in Council Bluffs is doing as [00:54:21] well, Bill Multi-billion dollar real [00:54:23] estate investment trust. It's buying up [00:54:24] single family homes. [00:54:25] >> In Council Bluffs, [00:54:26] >> Council Bluffs, [00:54:27] >> that's a tough town. [00:54:28] >> Yeah. And it [00:54:29] >> right across the river from Omaha. [00:54:31] >> Yeah. It wouldn't be your first choice. [00:54:32] I mean, that's how that's how ubiquitous [00:54:34] this is, right? Right. It's like it's [00:54:36] bluffs bluffs. Yep. [00:54:38] >> And then you look at our farmlands being [00:54:41] bought by people that don't live here. [00:54:43] And even when you get back into [00:54:44] agriculture and you look at, you know, [00:54:46] Iowa is the top pork producing state in [00:54:49] the country. [00:54:49] >> Yes. What most people don't know is I [00:54:53] think somewhere above 75% of the pork [00:54:55] that's raised in in Iowa, the farmers [00:54:58] don't own the pigs. [00:54:58] >> Of course not. They're on contract from [00:55:00] one of the big four agriculture [00:55:02] conglomerates, Cargill, Tyson, [00:55:05] um JBS and um and National. [00:55:10] So, we're having this this pride in our [00:55:13] work, this pride in our land, this you [00:55:16] the health of our people. We're having [00:55:18] these major issues come up. Well, so can [00:55:21] I just ask you to I mean that does so [00:55:23] you will own nothing and be happy is a [00:55:24] very famous phrase and thank you for [00:55:26] reminding us that it was 10 years ago [00:55:27] that it first emerged and that it was [00:55:29] real. It was not a meme at that point. [00:55:31] It was like a statement of intent. But I [00:55:34] think that has obscured the even darker [00:55:37] reality which is not only will you not [00:55:39] own anything, you won't create anything. [00:55:42] >> Yeah. I personally, just speaking for [00:55:44] myself as a middle-aged man, I would [00:55:46] rather at this stage create than own. I [00:55:48] I like both. [00:55:50] But the joy, the thing that proves that [00:55:54] you were made in God's image is your [00:55:56] ability to create because God is the [00:55:58] creator. [00:55:58] >> Yeah. [00:55:59] >> And when you create something, it's it's [00:56:02] the whole purpose of being here. Whether [00:56:03] it's children or harmony or a pair of [00:56:08] reading glasses, creation, making [00:56:11] something out of nothing is the main joy [00:56:14] in life. And when you take that away, no [00:56:17] wonder people are on fentanyl. [00:56:18] >> Yeah. [00:56:20] >> Right. [00:56:20] >> Well, also I think maybe missing like [00:56:22] the biggest one of those is speech. [00:56:24] >> Well, exactly. [00:56:25] >> Of this right here of what you're [00:56:27] creating. [00:56:27] >> I like to believe that's a form of [00:56:28] creation. [00:56:28] >> It is. That's it. It's like I spent my [00:56:30] life talking. speech is that and and [00:56:33] that is that and [00:56:34] >> this is where I I believe that we get [00:56:37] bogged down in the like the policy in [00:56:41] the politics of this whole thing and we [00:56:44] forget about the grander story. [00:56:46] >> Yes. [00:56:46] >> Of who we are as a people that we're [00:56:49] endowed by our creator that we're here [00:56:50] for a big purpose. you know, you know, [00:56:53] um I spent a number of years building [00:56:56] schools and one of the things we'd say [00:56:58] is that we believe every young person is [00:57:01] a hero on their journey to find a [00:57:04] calling and change the world. Like that [00:57:06] was the inspirational [00:57:09] line that we would say basically every [00:57:11] day. Like that's who we are. That's why [00:57:13] we're here. And [00:57:17] a lot of this creation has been is being [00:57:20] taken away as you mentioned. And AI is [00:57:23] not the least of which. [00:57:24] >> I I tell my kids all the time, look, use [00:57:27] AI for research. Never let it write for [00:57:29] you. Writing is how you organize your [00:57:32] thoughts. It's how you can think [00:57:35] something through to separate the wheat [00:57:37] from the chaff to understand how to [00:57:40] think critically to test your ideas and [00:57:43] then get in debate and things like that. [00:57:45] You can't have a machine do that. That's [00:57:46] is uniquely human thing is for us to to [00:57:50] come up with these ideas based on our [00:57:52] unique life experiences. [00:57:53] >> Stealing joy. It's like saying eat a [00:57:55] steak for me, have sex for me, [00:57:57] >> you know, wake up at dawn and watch the [00:57:58] sunrise for me. No, I'll reserve those [00:58:00] to myself because those are the greatest [00:58:02] pleasures in life and create creating [00:58:05] something is number one on that list of [00:58:07] of joy. So like why would you ever [00:58:09] outsource that to a machine? I don't [00:58:11] understand that. Did you see the [00:58:13] commercial for the product that um [00:58:16] basically records like your grandmother? [00:58:21] You record them when they're alive and [00:58:23] then after they pass away it creates [00:58:26] basically an avatar of them. But the [00:58:28] actual [00:58:28] >> So you can steal my memories and replace [00:58:30] them with the creation of a machine. [00:58:32] Yeah, I don't think so. [00:58:33] >> This is this is real though. It's [00:58:35] actually this I say it's like for the [00:58:37] longest time we accepted technology and [00:58:40] look farming is a big in this too. It's [00:58:41] like look, it reduced the burden of [00:58:43] labor and there's a certain part of the [00:58:45] point to that that's probably good. [00:58:47] Meaning like hand plowing a field is a [00:58:49] really difficult task using a tractor. [00:58:52] Okay, that's probably okay, right? It is [00:58:55] okay. Obviously, I'm joking. But but [00:58:56] then when you start to see what it's [00:58:58] being used for now to replace human [00:59:01] beings, meaning you can continue to have [00:59:03] conversations with this grandmother long [00:59:06] after she's passed away and she'll give [00:59:08] you her unique thoughts. was that's [00:59:11] completely stripping away the divinity [00:59:12] of humanity. This idea that we're [00:59:15] created in God's image, that we each [00:59:17] have something unique to share, and that [00:59:18] humanity is something to be protected [00:59:21] and is very special in the history of in [00:59:24] the history of the universe. It's very [00:59:26] special. [00:59:27] And so, like, well, let me just say [00:59:29] this. A lot of my campaign comes down to [00:59:32] this question. I was reading an essay by [00:59:34] Wendelberry. [00:59:36] You know, it's funny as you were [00:59:37] talking, I was just thinking of Wendel [00:59:39] Barry and I was going to say apppropo of [00:59:42] nothing. I love Wendelberry. [00:59:44] I thought maybe he's never heard of [00:59:46] Wendle Berry. I love that you read [00:59:47] Wendleberry. I love Wendleberry. It a [00:59:49] matter of fact, his essay on 911 was so [00:59:51] radical. I think it got taken off the [00:59:53] internet, but it was like so good. You [00:59:55] know, I um I I maybe shouldn't say this [00:59:58] on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has [01:00:01] an autopilot feature and there was a [01:00:03] period of time when I'd be driving with [01:00:05] my kids and you know, somewhere and I [01:00:06] might like, you know, pull pull out the [01:00:08] Windleberry poem book and give them and [01:00:11] so on the way to school talking to my [01:00:12] sister-in-law yesterday about [01:00:14] Wendleberry poems. Literally yesterday [01:00:16] there I I would actually have the kids [01:00:18] take turns in the car reading a poem to [01:00:21] each. Yeah. Because look, [01:00:24] understanding these ideas, I don't know [01:00:26] if there's other than faith and they're [01:00:28] tied in together, inextricably woven [01:00:31] together are the ideas that Windleberry [01:00:32] puts forward in the ideas of our faith. [01:00:34] You can't separate them because it's [01:00:36] about creation. Yes, [01:00:37] >> it's about protecting that and [01:00:40] understanding that we were told to tend [01:00:42] the garden. We're told to subdue, but [01:00:44] not destroy, of course. And so I would [01:00:47] have the kids read this because it's [01:00:49] like I want you guys to know like look [01:00:50] if I'm gone tomorrow and you knew two [01:00:53] things about me that I loved my savior [01:00:56] and I loved the creation. [01:00:58] >> Yes. [01:00:59] >> I'd be very happy. And I hope that you [01:01:00] know if that's the only two things you [01:01:02] remember about me and you just had to [01:01:03] keep reflecting on those two things. [01:01:04] Great. You're making me emotional again. [01:01:07] Sorry. But in this essay I was actually [01:01:11] in the Elant. [01:01:12] >> Okay. If you're listening to Wendel [01:01:13] Barry poems in the car with your kids [01:01:15] like I'm I tell me where the fundraiser [01:01:18] is cuz I'm going cuz I just we need more [01:01:20] of this in America. [01:01:22] So um he had this uh poem uh this essay [01:01:26] he wrote in the Atlantic. I think it was [01:01:27] 1991 and somebody some quote I read [01:01:31] turned me on to that and I was like I [01:01:32] wonder what this is. So I went and read [01:01:34] read the whole thing and in it he talked [01:01:36] about this idea and I think this [01:01:38] summarizes so much what I'm talking [01:01:39] about when I say our farm farmland's [01:01:43] being owned by people who don't live [01:01:44] here. Our jobs are being shipped to [01:01:46] other countries. Our factories being [01:01:47] shipped to other countries. We have [01:01:49] unchecked monopolies that are exploiting [01:01:51] our farmers. [01:01:53] We have the highest cancer rate but [01:01:54] we're not talking about it. [01:01:57] Windel said that a foundational question [01:02:00] that the Amish ask before they make any [01:02:03] big decision is what will this change do [01:02:07] to our community? [01:02:08] >> Yes. [01:02:10] >> And I think I don't know anyone who [01:02:12] would deny that our politicians and our [01:02:15] leaders have not been asking that [01:02:16] question for a very long time. [01:02:18] >> That is absolutely right. And that is [01:02:19] absolutely right. and and we don't ask [01:02:21] ourselves enough how will this change us [01:02:23] and our relationships and our [01:02:25] understanding of God in the world and I [01:02:27] think that of labor saving devices I [01:02:29] find myself I'm the product of you know [01:02:32] America and at its peak and there's not [01:02:36] enough labor actually and I find myself [01:02:38] trying to eliminate laborsaving devices [01:02:40] from my life merely so I will have the [01:02:42] experience of labor [01:02:43] >> yeah we hand grind our coffee don't have [01:02:45] to do that why do we do that I always [01:02:47] say to my befuddled and grumpy be [01:02:50] children like because we're not [01:02:52] dependent on electricity for everything. [01:02:54] >> You can grind your own coffee. It's [01:02:55] okay. And I just feel like that and [01:02:58] obviously I'm insane so that informs a [01:03:00] lot of my decisions is my lunacy. But it [01:03:03] also speaks to like a need in all people [01:03:07] to be involved in the production of [01:03:09] something. [01:03:10] >> Yeah. [01:03:11] >> Right. [01:03:11] >> Oh, absolutely. [01:03:12] >> Like Door Dash is I'm not against Door [01:03:14] Dash, but like not that I've used it, [01:03:15] but like I don't know. But you gain [01:03:18] something but you also lose something. [01:03:20] That's all I'm saying. [01:03:20] >> Yeah. There there [01:03:24] when you feel the feeling of [01:03:26] accomplishment, [01:03:27] it's it's a liberating feeling. [01:03:29] >> Yes. [01:03:30] >> It's a it's a feeling that brings pride. [01:03:31] And I would say this, it's a feeling [01:03:32] that brings pride that also if you [01:03:34] understand your own history of your [01:03:36] family and your story that you can [01:03:38] connect it to what's happened generation [01:03:40] and generation and generation before. I [01:03:43] think so much of where we've went wrong [01:03:47] is that, you know, I was at a gosh, I [01:03:48] was at a a funeral for a woman that I [01:03:51] loved dearly. Her name was um Becky [01:03:54] Elder and she was an agrarian uh from [01:03:56] Kansas and you know, lived in Kansas for [01:03:58] a while and she was somebody who started [01:04:00] schools. She was an amazing woman. I [01:04:02] mean, like this this could get me [01:04:05] emotional, but um [01:04:07] uh I was at her funeral uh about a week [01:04:09] ago [01:04:11] and uh she was I would call a daughter [01:04:14] of the prairie, like loved creation, [01:04:18] tended it, had their own farms, all [01:04:20] these things. Um, and her son was [01:04:24] reading something about her and he said, [01:04:28] "One of the most common sins is [01:04:30] forgetting. [01:04:32] Forgetting where we come from." [01:04:34] >> Yep. [01:04:34] >> Forgetting our heritage. Forgetting [01:04:38] that these places really matter. [01:04:42] And so like when I'm in my community and [01:04:45] I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded [01:04:46] with in large part, you know, it's like [01:04:50] many of many of these places feel [01:04:52] forgotten, [01:04:54] especially by our politicians who didn't [01:04:57] ask these questions of what will these [01:04:58] changes do to our community. [01:05:01] I have a defensive mechanism that comes [01:05:03] up in me to say like I'm going to hear [01:05:05] I'm I'm going to fight for you. I'm [01:05:07] going to do it. And I don't know what [01:05:08] that is. I don't know where that came [01:05:09] from, but I would just say that God put [01:05:11] something on me to say, look, maybe I [01:05:14] win this governor's race, maybe I don't. [01:05:17] My whole life is going to be focused on [01:05:20] these issues because they're issues of [01:05:23] caring for your neighbor. And it's the [01:05:25] one of the two commands I've been given [01:05:29] by Jesus. And so, you know, that's why [01:05:33] we work with, you know, I we could do [01:05:35] farming a different way and I could make [01:05:37] more money on that. [01:05:39] I have a family that I love that I want [01:05:42] to like work with specifically because [01:05:45] it's additive to the whole equation. [01:05:47] >> Yes. [01:05:48] >> You know, when my greatgrandparents were [01:05:52] uh living on the farm, [01:05:54] I I found all these documents and I [01:05:56] heard stories about them from the [01:05:59] community. You know what's so [01:06:00] interesting is like when we talk about [01:06:02] we don't know who owns our land. You [01:06:04] know before when I was growing up and I [01:06:07] talk about these pieces of land. We've [01:06:08] bought some of these pieces because the [01:06:10] people have passed on and often times [01:06:12] they'll want to sell to us because they [01:06:14] know where my heart is and they don't [01:06:16] want it to go into an auction and they [01:06:17] don't want it going to somebody from out [01:06:18] of state out of the country. We don't [01:06:19] know. Um [01:06:22] we call the pieces of land by the last [01:06:24] name of the people that live there [01:06:25] forever. [01:06:26] >> Always we do the same. [01:06:27] >> That's what we do. That's exactly right. [01:06:28] >> And it's honoring. Like I've told my [01:06:30] wife, I I plan to put up plaques or [01:06:32] signs saying like this is this farm. [01:06:34] This is the history of this farm. [01:06:36] >> It's exactly what we do. It's exactly [01:06:37] right. And that's exactly the way to do [01:06:39] it. [01:06:40] >> And so when I was talking early on about [01:06:43] this idea of something lost, [01:06:46] I remember hearing some of these [01:06:46] stories. And one of the stories I really [01:06:48] loved was that you my uh [01:06:51] great-grandmother and my great-rpa [01:06:53] uh when they were on this farm, you [01:06:56] know, these Iowa communities used to be [01:06:58] dotted with these small farmsteads all [01:07:00] over. Many of them have just been [01:07:02] bulldozed and farmed over because, you [01:07:04] know, people are growing and growing and [01:07:05] growing farm. Consolidation's happening [01:07:06] everywhere. And [01:07:07] >> of course, [01:07:08] >> and with the consolidation, every time a [01:07:09] farm is consolidated, I say to people, [01:07:11] life goes out of our community. Like we [01:07:13] have to get our young people back on [01:07:14] these farms. one of my biggest biggest [01:07:16] efforts I'm going to be undertaking is [01:07:17] to do that. [01:07:19] They were so tight-knit in these [01:07:21] communities that my uh people would tell [01:07:22] me, you know, we used to come over to [01:07:24] your your house, this house, coffee was [01:07:27] on till 10:00 p.m. at night and your [01:07:30] great grandma and your great-randp were [01:07:31] actually the counselors of our [01:07:33] neighborhood. So, they had these groups [01:07:35] and so if husband and wife were having [01:07:38] an issue, they'd come over and they'd [01:07:40] sit and talk this through. if they're [01:07:42] having issues with kids, they'd sit and [01:07:43] talk these things through. And they [01:07:45] cared for each other and they're [01:07:46] involved in each other's lives. [01:07:49] And [01:07:51] we're experiencing likely the exact [01:07:53] opposite of that trend happening. We're [01:07:57] and it's having a profound effect on our [01:08:00] culture or becoming insular and othering [01:08:04] that you know just cuz you have a bumper [01:08:07] sticker that somebody doesn't like that [01:08:08] they're not to be talked to which is not [01:08:11] not at all like not what defined us back [01:08:14] then. [01:08:15] >> No, [01:08:15] >> not at all. And we're not allowed to [01:08:17] behave like that. Anyway, [01:08:19] >> my dream for the state of Iowa is to see [01:08:23] a long-term rich agrarian society. Like [01:08:26] a long-term rich agriculture heritage be [01:08:28] restored. That's my dream and that's [01:08:31] that's what I'm fighting for. Boy, [01:08:33] that's got to be one of the toughest [01:08:34] battles you could fight. [01:08:37] It's but it's worth it. It's a you know, [01:08:39] it's foundational not just to the state, [01:08:42] but to us as a people. I think it's [01:08:45] something in like our soul that like [01:08:47] working with our hands in the dirt with [01:08:49] animals with family with multiple [01:08:51] generations. [01:08:52] There's a book by a guy named Alan [01:08:54] Carlson I think it was called the the [01:08:56] natural family and where it belongs. And [01:08:58] I had another basically radicalizing [01:09:00] moment for me was reading this and [01:09:02] realizing this man said so many things [01:09:04] that I didn't know how to say. just that [01:09:07] that setup of Farmstead and neighboring [01:09:10] farmstead that care for each other and [01:09:13] that did a lot of life together was the [01:09:16] most in tuned and connected I think [01:09:18] spiritually we could probably say we [01:09:21] have been as a society or a community [01:09:25] and I would like to see that return. [01:09:28] What? I don't quite We met at an event a [01:09:32] couple of months ago, a very crowded [01:09:34] event, and had like a three-minute I'd [01:09:35] never heard of you. We had a [01:09:37] three-minute conversation. I was like, [01:09:38] "Whoa, I want to talk to that guy." Um, [01:09:41] so I should just confirm to anyone who's [01:09:44] still watching this uh an hour in that [01:09:47] uh you talk this way in private, too, [01:09:50] which I love. But what do people in like [01:09:54] a official organized Iowa politics think [01:09:57] when you say stuff like this? [01:10:00] You know, in in longer form discussions, [01:10:03] I find that it's very very good. [01:10:07] But I think that politics has been so [01:10:10] overtaken with this like bumper sticker [01:10:12] ideology. Yes. [01:10:15] Which is like I I think somebody once [01:10:16] said a bumper sticker is substitute for [01:10:19] thought or something like that. [01:10:20] >> Sure. [01:10:21] And and so and also I just think I'm not [01:10:26] the typical person that would run for [01:10:28] office. Like I really that's putting it [01:10:31] mildly. [01:10:33] I really like [01:10:35] I really worked hard to you know be on [01:10:38] our farm to farm it to have my kids [01:10:40] understand that to work in education and [01:10:42] these types of things. I really worked [01:10:43] hard to do that. This was not something [01:10:45] that I had just like saying you know [01:10:46] what timing is like I've been waiting [01:10:49] for this forever. we're we're doing [01:10:50] this. It was more that I thought, you [01:10:54] know, there's no term limits on the [01:10:55] governor of Iowa. The longest serving [01:10:58] governor in the history of America is [01:11:00] Iowa's former governor Terry Brenstead. [01:11:03] So, in my head and in my heart as I was [01:11:05] talking to my wife about this, it's [01:11:06] like, the next person who gets elected [01:11:08] governor could be governor till I die. [01:11:11] Oh, yeah. Well, look at look at your [01:11:12] senior senator. [01:11:14] >> Emphasis on the senior. I like him. I'm [01:11:16] not attacking him, but he served for a [01:11:17] couple hundred years, I think. And it's [01:11:20] like that uh the quote when Ronald [01:11:22] Reagan said, uh, "I knew Abraham Lincoln [01:11:24] and you know Abraham Lincoln." [01:11:27] >> I love that. But but it's, you know, so [01:11:31] politics is not the place for long for [01:11:35] deep and spiritual discussion. And I [01:11:37] wish it was. Yeah. Because I think if it [01:11:40] was, you'd require people running for [01:11:43] office to connect with you at a deeper [01:11:44] level to actually understand what you're [01:11:47] going through and to know that they care [01:11:50] about those issues. Because, you know, I [01:11:53] don't care how low our taxes are. [01:11:57] If I say this, if our kids are leaving [01:12:01] and our people are dying from cancer, we [01:12:03] are not in what I'd call successful [01:12:06] territory. [01:12:07] >> That's exactly right. And the beauty of [01:12:09] economics is uh it's supposedly a [01:12:12] species of science which means it can be [01:12:15] tested. So if you have an economic [01:12:17] system in progress longitudinally over a [01:12:19] period of time then you can assess with [01:12:22] the highest degree of accuracy whether [01:12:24] it worked or not right because you look [01:12:25] at the outcomes and by that measure [01:12:28] socialism communism is like the worst [01:12:30] possible failure. Our current system is [01:12:33] not anything like that but it's not a [01:12:35] it's not a win it's a failure because [01:12:36] look around. So like what we're doing [01:12:38] isn't working. I don't care what they [01:12:40] tell you at some think tank or what [01:12:42] should happen. [01:12:43] >> I've lived long enough to see what [01:12:45] actually happened and no. [01:12:47] >> Yeah. [01:12:47] >> Doesn't work. [01:12:50] >> And like look at some of these new ideas [01:12:52] that are coming out. Which by the way [01:12:53] it's like the fact that these have to be [01:12:56] stated is kind of crazy. And then the [01:12:58] fact that we get push back on it. Like [01:13:00] I'm somebody who firmly believes [01:13:03] that the priorities of my government and [01:13:05] my economy should be solely focused on [01:13:08] making life better for the people that [01:13:10] live in my state and my country. Like [01:13:13] not racist, [01:13:17] not not for big business, not for [01:13:19] foreign countries. Like [01:13:21] >> and I think so many people just thought [01:13:23] that was the case. And then like meaning [01:13:26] like people that we're not really paying [01:13:28] attention, but it's like the politicians [01:13:29] are all telling me like we're going to [01:13:30] work on this low tax. We're going to [01:13:32] work on this thing. It's like but hold [01:13:34] on. What just a day ago? 81 Republicans [01:13:39] voted to keep $315 million of spending [01:13:44] for the National Endowment for [01:13:46] Democracy. [01:13:48] >> What? Yeah. Not on your side. [01:13:50] >> It's right. And it's like after [01:13:52] everything that Elon Musk went through [01:13:54] Yeah. After all of what these people [01:13:56] did, all of what they took in the news, [01:13:58] all of like the the conflicts and [01:14:00] relationships that broke down, that one [01:14:03] thing that we know is a front [01:14:05] organization in large part is now [01:14:08] getting hundreds of millions of dollars [01:14:09] from our government and Republicans are [01:14:11] voting yes on it. [01:14:11] >> Of course they are. It's like we're not [01:14:14] learning anything. [01:14:15] >> We're learn It's like the the idea. How [01:14:18] >> Why am I laughing? Cuz I don't know what [01:14:20] else to do. [01:14:20] >> Well, how could you ever deny the [01:14:22] existence of the uni party at this [01:14:23] point? Oh, I know. Well, you have a very [01:14:27] prominent Republican [01:14:29] uh senator and presidential candidate [01:14:31] working with the ADL to suppress the [01:14:33] speech of Americans. So, it's like, hm, [01:14:36] maybe the current system isn't what they [01:14:38] talk. And I but people know that it's [01:14:40] that it's fake. And I guess the good [01:14:42] news is we still have enough elbow room [01:14:44] enough freedom in the United States [01:14:46] that, you know, reform is possible if [01:14:48] enough people are like, "No, come on [01:14:49] now. [01:14:50] You have to serve our interest sort of [01:14:52] or at least acknowledge them. [01:14:54] >> Yeah, you you would hope so. I think [01:14:56] like this vote specifically is is a [01:14:59] quite the conundrum to that point, [01:15:00] right? Like this all just happened. [01:15:03] >> Well, I could name eight other things [01:15:05] happened in the last month and you're [01:15:06] like this IS THIS IS SO UNBELIEVABLE. [01:15:09] IT'S SO OUTRAGEOUS. Like it can't [01:15:11] continue. The internal contradictions [01:15:12] have reached the point of breaking and [01:15:14] like we're getting something new and [01:15:15] then it's just like on to the next. [01:15:18] Yeah, it'll you're right. It'll be gone [01:15:19] in a week. It'll be like in a week. IT'S [01:15:21] GONE NOW. [01:15:22] >> It's Yeah, exactly. And but to that [01:15:25] point, I think this is why this idea of [01:15:28] running for governor is so appealing. [01:15:30] It's like [01:15:32] maybe I'm wrong for saying this, but [01:15:34] I've largely written off Washington DC. [01:15:37] >> I think that's fair. [01:15:38] >> And it's like if if the people that [01:15:41] we've put in power, now granted, I will [01:15:43] say there's some huge huge shining [01:15:45] stars. I think what Robert F. Kennedy is [01:15:47] doing [01:15:48] >> Yeah. Unbelievable. The repercussions of [01:15:50] this for the for positive health [01:15:52] benefits of Americans [01:15:54] >> will will reverberate for for for [01:15:57] generations if it can stay in place [01:15:59] >> because he's going to help an entire [01:16:02] generation of people become far more [01:16:04] healthy, live better lives, meet their [01:16:06] great grandkids potentially. Like that's [01:16:09] amazing. And have [01:16:12] clearer heads and purer spirits. Like [01:16:14] just start with like just the government [01:16:16] should not officially endorse eating [01:16:18] 1,000 lbs of sugar a year. Just that [01:16:21] right there. Flipping over the nutrition [01:16:25] tables into something that more closely [01:16:27] resembles reality. That's a huge step. [01:16:29] Reducing the vax schedule [01:16:31] >> from like you know a million vaccines [01:16:34] for the newborn to a smaller number. [01:16:37] >> You got to call that a win. That's a [01:16:38] win. [01:16:39] >> And it's also something that I think we [01:16:41] believe. Why are we even having to have [01:16:42] this fight? [01:16:43] >> Like but you you know like [01:16:46] >> somebody asked me the other day, what do [01:16:48] you think the most pressing issue facing [01:16:50] America is? And I like taking out the [01:16:53] spirit because spirituality is [01:16:54] intertwined, but taking that out, I said [01:16:57] I think it's that our government is run [01:16:59] by unelected people and we don't know [01:17:01] who they are. [01:17:02] >> Yeah. [01:17:02] >> And and I was talking [01:17:04] >> without our best interest at heart at [01:17:06] all. [01:17:06] And so this idea of America first, of [01:17:08] Iowa first, it's like to many of us, [01:17:10] this is just common sense. It's like [01:17:13] this is what the country was set up for. [01:17:15] What's the other form of government [01:17:16] that's legitimate? I can't think of one. [01:17:18] If if this is a democratic republic and [01:17:21] the government is acting in an interest [01:17:24] that's not our interest, how is that [01:17:25] legitimate? How is that not grounds for, [01:17:28] you know, anyway, um, right? There's no [01:17:31] other legitimate form of government but [01:17:34] America first or Iowa first. Like [01:17:36] there's that's the only option. [01:17:38] >> And and how we got away from that is [01:17:40] unbelievable. And like look, I was [01:17:41] talking to my dad about some of these [01:17:43] things the other day. And [01:17:45] >> you know some things you can think and [01:17:46] know but not exactly know how to [01:17:48] describe or put into words. And [01:17:50] >> I get that feeling when I think about [01:17:53] the shift that our country clearly went [01:17:55] through after the assassination of John [01:17:57] F. Kennedy. [01:17:57] >> Well, that's it right there. It seemed [01:17:59] as if something spiritual happened at [01:18:01] that point within our country and it has [01:18:04] to do with the complete disregard for [01:18:07] truth, honesty. [01:18:10] >> Yep. [01:18:10] >> Or like the American public deserving to [01:18:13] know what's happening. And then, you [01:18:16] know, I I read a tweet one day, I don't [01:18:18] know who said it, maybe it's Russell [01:18:19] Brand or somebody that said something [01:18:20] along the lines of like the the the [01:18:22] future success of our country and the [01:18:25] Kennedys is like intertwined in some [01:18:27] way. [01:18:28] >> True. And so I it is true. I never used [01:18:31] to believe that. And I would hear these [01:18:32] baby boomers say that was the day [01:18:33] everything changed. And and they were [01:18:35] silly. Not they were not serious people, [01:18:38] but they could feel something that was [01:18:40] true. And that was clearly true. That [01:18:43] that a lot did change. Everything [01:18:44] changed when he was assassinated [01:18:47] in a way that I did not appreciate. Tell [01:18:49] was much older. And but they were they [01:18:50] were right. They were right in saying [01:18:51] that. And the fact that 63 years later, [01:18:55] you know, CIA still will not, this is a [01:18:57] fact, will not divulge [01:18:59] >> Yeah. [01:18:59] >> all the information that it has on his [01:19:01] murder despite a bunch of laws from [01:19:03] Congress, despite a executive order from [01:19:05] the president of the United States and a [01:19:07] year ago. They're still hiding it. [01:19:09] Clearly, there were, you know, probably [01:19:12] a lot of people involved. Probably a [01:19:13] foreign country clearly involved. Our [01:19:16] own government clearly involved. So, [01:19:18] like, and they're still lying about it. [01:19:20] It's wild. But [01:19:23] uh if the truth sets you free then lives [01:19:25] enslave the lies enslave you. Yeah the [01:19:28] overse is true. So I think we are [01:19:30] enslaved in some sense by these lies. [01:19:34] You know I think where I see this most [01:19:36] is in the newest generation of people [01:19:38] that are coming up um you know uh coming [01:19:41] of age so to speak and there's some very [01:19:44] loud voices out there that they're all [01:19:46] flocking to. one in very in particular [01:19:48] that you've interviewed and people ask [01:19:50] me all the time like why do I think that [01:19:52] is and I just say guys [01:19:55] look at the lies [01:19:56] >> exactly [01:19:57] >> look at what's happened look at the lack [01:19:58] of justice the last lack of [01:20:00] accountability like what we don't like [01:20:04] where's Fouchy [01:20:06] like what what about the Hunter Biden [01:20:08] laptop when are these people going to be [01:20:10] arrested I said this about Trump 10 [01:20:12] years ago when I lived in Washington I'm [01:20:13] a product of Washington obviously and I [01:20:15] wrote a piece basically Trump is popular [01:20:18] cuz you failed and it's not wasn't an [01:20:21] endorsement of everything Trump said [01:20:22] though I like Trump um but and voted for [01:20:24] him but it wasn't it's not about Trump [01:20:27] like Trump wouldn't have existed if the [01:20:30] system was working and the same is true [01:20:32] of the person you're referring to whose [01:20:35] name shall not be named. Um but no no [01:20:37] it's true it's like we argue about is is [01:20:40] he good or bad? Does is he you know [01:20:42] whatever but the argument is not really [01:20:44] about him. It's about the system that [01:20:45] allowed someone like that to become [01:20:47] popular. It's like why do you think [01:20:48] people are watching that? Because you [01:20:51] failed. You betrayed your own voters. [01:20:54] >> Yes. Yes. That is right. Yes. [01:20:57] >> And and look, [01:21:00] one of the biggest issues that's come up [01:21:02] is about, you know, immigration. [01:21:04] >> Yeah. It's all over. And I think for a [01:21:07] long time we have been criticized, [01:21:11] ostracized for noticing what's [01:21:13] happening. and calling it out to say [01:21:15] like what's happening [01:21:17] and and you know there's this idea of [01:21:20] replacement migration this replacement [01:21:22] theory and like like I don't ever talk [01:21:25] about this but it's like people talk [01:21:28] about it and they're immediately just [01:21:29] hammered down well in 2000 the UN put [01:21:31] out a document called replacement [01:21:34] migration [01:21:35] >> of course [01:21:36] >> 144 pages multiple languages but I read [01:21:38] this and it's like it's lining out [01:21:40] exactly what's happening and it's saying [01:21:43] Look, European nations are going to be [01:21:45] losing population. You know, like uh [01:21:47] America's be losing population. What's [01:21:49] the answer? Well, traditionally [01:21:51] throughout history, the answer is to [01:21:53] promote having more children. [01:21:55] >> Make it easier for people to have kids. [01:21:56] Make life more affordable. Bring home [01:21:59] the money that's being spent overseas [01:22:01] and use I mean, imagine you just talk [01:22:03] about Iraq and Afghanistan. Imagine what [01:22:06] our country would be if we didn't spend [01:22:08] $10 trillion on that. [01:22:11] >> Yeah. Imagine what we could have done [01:22:13] for our children [01:22:16] in our communities. [01:22:19] So when you look at this and you're and [01:22:21] you're you're called this conspir I'm [01:22:22] not called it cuz I don't ever talk [01:22:23] about this but people are called [01:22:24] conspiracy theorists for bringing up [01:22:26] this idea of replacement migration. They [01:22:28] literally wrote a white paper on it [01:22:29] >> of course [01:22:30] >> and they described what it was going to [01:22:31] do. And then you look at these people [01:22:33] that are feeling like you know [01:22:34] especially young white males like [01:22:36] they're being taken out of society. [01:22:38] They're being told they don't matter. [01:22:39] Matter of fact, they had this original [01:22:41] sin of being who they are. [01:22:44] It's unbelievable. And then you in the [01:22:46] >> Sounds like a dangerous conspiracy [01:22:47] theory. You ever look at the census [01:22:49] numbers? [01:22:50] >> Oh yeah. Right. So again, we can just [01:22:52] bring science to bear on this. Is the [01:22:53] native population being replaced? I [01:22:55] don't know. Let's check the census. [01:22:57] Answer. Yes. How about we do it by zip [01:22:59] code? I'm 56. So let's let's go back to [01:23:02] 1970. The census of 1970. Just spend an [01:23:05] afternoon reading that. And and so [01:23:07] anyone who tells you you're a bigot or [01:23:10] you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing [01:23:14] is, you know, is is not is lying and [01:23:17] probably lying in order to hurt you. [01:23:20] >> Well, and and Tucker, why? It's like, [01:23:22] well, [01:23:24] >> it's like, [01:23:26] >> why are we not allowed to have and [01:23:28] appreciate and love our culture? And why [01:23:30] are we also not allowed to let people in [01:23:32] that want to be a part of that culture? [01:23:34] That's the whole idea. People ask me how [01:23:35] to pronounce my last name, and it's L a [01:23:37] HN, but it's pronounced Lane. Well, why [01:23:39] is that? Well, my great great grandpa [01:23:41] when he came over, he wanted to keep the [01:23:43] German spelling, but he wanted to be a [01:23:45] pronounced American. And they took on [01:23:47] the American customs, and they became [01:23:49] American. [01:23:50] >> Yes, [01:23:50] >> that's what it was. And the idea that [01:23:53] we're saying that this is [01:23:54] >> How were How did uh how did the family [01:23:57] pronounce it in Germany? [01:23:58] >> I it was I was told it was pronounced [01:23:59] learn like it's and that's what I was [01:24:02] told. Someday I'm, as you could probably [01:24:04] imagine, I'm gonna go over there and dig [01:24:05] as deep as I can in all this stuff [01:24:06] because it's, you know, some people get [01:24:08] the bug for learning this about their [01:24:10] family. I am that human. Like I I love [01:24:12] this. Like I love learning about my [01:24:14] history and heritage. [01:24:16] >> And you know what, like 150 years in [01:24:19] America is a thing to be very proud of. [01:24:22] >> Yes. And but also like Yeah. They likely [01:24:25] did not want to leave where they were [01:24:26] at. They didn't want to go three three [01:24:28] weeks on a boat in the stowage, [01:24:31] >> you know, [01:24:31] >> from northern Germany. northern Germany. [01:24:33] And on my mom's side, actually the um [01:24:35] family's been here since the revolution. [01:24:37] Actually, my a great ancestor, direct [01:24:38] great ancestor died in the Revolutionary [01:24:40] War. Me, too. [01:24:42] >> And so, [01:24:43] I I these voices of people who [01:24:48] understand the culture that our [01:24:51] ancestors created and it's something to [01:24:52] be so proud of. It's so inclusive. It [01:24:54] reduces suffering. It is welcoming to [01:24:56] people. But the idea that you can come [01:24:58] in and try to put something else over [01:25:02] top of that. And Charlie Kirk said this [01:25:04] beautifully. He said something I'm going [01:25:07] to butcher his words and I'm I'm I'm [01:25:09] sorry for that. I I first met him in [01:25:11] 2011. I think we're both speaking at the [01:25:13] same event. [01:25:15] Um, I said something along the lines of [01:25:17] the reason we're in a constitutional [01:25:19] crisis is because we have a Christian [01:25:20] form of government, but we have elected [01:25:24] people that are not following that [01:25:28] custom and religion [01:25:29] >> in Christianity. And so, you're going to [01:25:31] have a constitutional crisis. You're [01:25:33] going to have fraud all over the place. [01:25:35] You're going to like your institutions [01:25:37] will break down [01:25:38] >> cuz the system was a bespoke system. It [01:25:40] was created for the people who lived [01:25:43] under it. And you've got different [01:25:44] people, so you're going to get a [01:25:45] different system. [01:25:46] >> Yeah, it it was it was created. [01:25:48] >> Not a value judgment. It's just an [01:25:49] observation. [01:25:50] >> Yeah, it was created. [01:25:52] >> Uh Zach, amazing amazing conversation. [01:25:55] I'm intentionally not going to ask you [01:25:57] about the politics of it. You're going [01:25:58] to have plenty of time to talk about [01:26:00] that. Um but I think this is [01:26:03] gives, you know, any anyone who has [01:26:06] again watched to this point is either, [01:26:09] you know, like, "Oh my gosh, I'm sending [01:26:11] this man money." OR STOP HIM. [01:26:14] Um uh but I am interested like when [01:26:18] really quick last question what is the [01:26:20] process from here on out? [01:26:22] >> Yeah. So our primary elections June 2nd. [01:26:25] Okay. [01:26:25] >> And then uh if if we win the primary [01:26:28] then the elections in November. [01:26:29] >> How many people in the primary? [01:26:31] >> There's five people in the primary right [01:26:32] now. Um and so I believe we have a [01:26:35] really really good shot at this. And I [01:26:36] believe our message the time for the [01:26:38] message that we're saying is now. and [01:26:41] that I there's been a um [01:26:46] I think there there's there's been a [01:26:47] void that's been there and people are [01:26:51] wanting politicians and people running [01:26:53] for office cuz I've never ran for [01:26:54] office. I'm not a politician. They're [01:26:56] wanting people that will speak truth to [01:26:58] them and that will talk about the big [01:27:00] issues even if the donors and the [01:27:03] special interests say I've told them I [01:27:05] don't want your money. I I'm not looking [01:27:07] for your money. I'm actually you [01:27:10] I'm actually here to stop a lot of the [01:27:12] practices that you're putting in place. [01:27:15] And so I've said I'm my own biggest [01:27:16] donor to this campaign. I will not be [01:27:18] bought. It won't happen. [01:27:20] So boy, they're going to try and stop [01:27:22] you. Um it's not radicalism that scares [01:27:26] them. It's it's quiet sincere [01:27:28] determination. Uh I would say so. [01:27:31] Godspeed. Thank you. Thank you.
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