EXCLUSIVE: Leaked TPUSA Audio | Candace EP 296
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[00:00:00] All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I
[00:00:02] survived the ice storm. I'm sorry that
[00:00:05] we were down yesterday. We had no
[00:00:06] internet, but we are going to make up
[00:00:08] for it with a show this Friday. Anyway,
[00:00:11] what do I have for you today? You guys
[00:00:12] already know that many people are upset
[00:00:15] with me. And by many people, I mean the
[00:00:17] mainstream media and all their cronies.
[00:00:19] They're upset for a lot of reasons. Uh,
[00:00:21] foremost, because I mentioned the idea
[00:00:23] that Charlie's life may have been the
[00:00:26] Truman Show. How dare I? Well, it's
[00:00:28] about to get a little more weird when I
[00:00:30] tell you something else that we have
[00:00:32] learned about the origins of the X-Men
[00:00:34] X-Men school that he went to in his
[00:00:36] youth. I probably should have named the
[00:00:38] thumbnail X-Men origins missed
[00:00:40] opportunity. Also, we have and they are
[00:00:43] uh seemingly very upset that we are
[00:00:45] going to share with you this conference
[00:00:46] call that I promised you. Erica
[00:00:49] installed as the new CEO and chairman.
[00:00:51] She headed up this conference call about
[00:00:54] 12 days after Charlie was assassinated,
[00:00:57] just after the memorial event. And I'm
[00:01:00] going to allow you guys to listen to it
[00:01:02] to see how you feel about it because I
[00:01:05] definitely feel a thing about it. What
[00:01:08] that thing is, I don't know. Welcome
[00:01:11] back to Candace
[00:01:27] Okay, before we dive in, a quick thank
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[00:01:42] imi skincare.com today. Okay, so last
[00:01:46] week I said to you guys that in the near
[00:01:50] future we are going to do a maybe two
[00:01:54] episodes, could be a three-part series
[00:01:57] on Erica Kirk's past. Few people online
[00:02:00] were very upset about that instantly.
[00:02:02] Oh, how dare you? How could you look
[00:02:06] into anything involving Erica Kirk? Uh,
[00:02:09] let me explain to you guys what's
[00:02:11] happening here. You're probably
[00:02:12] wondering what it is that we are doing.
[00:02:14] So, I'm old. I'm 36 years old. Uh, back
[00:02:18] in my day, there used to be this thing
[00:02:20] known as journalism. Basic journalism.
[00:02:23] It existed. I know it seems very far
[00:02:26] off, but it would be considered probably
[00:02:30] back in my day literal insanity to allow
[00:02:33] someone to take over the reigns of an
[00:02:36] organization that quite literally relies
[00:02:38] on the goodwill of the public. It's a
[00:02:40] charitable organization which happened
[00:02:42] to have raised over a quarter of a
[00:02:46] billion dollars following the
[00:02:49] assassination of its founder
[00:02:52] and then apparently nobody's interested
[00:02:55] in in doing a basic profile piece on the
[00:02:58] new chairman and CEO that took over.
[00:03:00] Like that's that that's actually that
[00:03:03] makes no sense. And so that's what we
[00:03:05] are committing ourselves to. We are
[00:03:07] doing a couple of episodes to separate
[00:03:09] fact from fiction when it comes to the
[00:03:12] background of Erica Kirk because the
[00:03:14] public deserves to know and like I said
[00:03:16] it's basic journalism. This entire idea
[00:03:21] that well Charlie wanted this
[00:03:24] that just would fly probably actually
[00:03:26] nowhere in the world not even in the old
[00:03:28] world not even under monarchy rule in
[00:03:31] the 11th century in England would that
[00:03:34] work. You can't just say, "Oh, well that
[00:03:36] was his MS. That was his queen consort."
[00:03:39] And hand her a kingdom. Even under that
[00:03:41] model, it would be Charlie's son that
[00:03:44] would inherit Turning Point USA. So,
[00:03:46] stop doing that. Stop saying that.
[00:03:47] Doesn't make any sense. The public is
[00:03:49] not biting. I am not biting. And to be
[00:03:52] clear, the more time that goes on, the
[00:03:54] more that we are seeing the general
[00:03:56] direction that this company is taking
[00:03:59] under her stewardship, uh, the less
[00:04:01] we're liking. The general public doesn't
[00:04:03] like it. I don't like it and especially
[00:04:05] the recent bout of paranoia where we had
[00:04:08] a bunch of employees who factually
[00:04:11] worked 20our days. This that fact by the
[00:04:15] way you are about to hear Erica confirm
[00:04:16] herself. Those employees were then fired
[00:04:19] without even being given a clear reason
[00:04:22] as to why. Just got to go going in a
[00:04:25] different direction. That doesn't
[00:04:26] exactly match what we were told uh as
[00:04:29] the public. We were told that they're a
[00:04:32] family. How dare anybody question
[00:04:34] anybody ever in the family followed
[00:04:38] immediately almost seemingly in the new
[00:04:40] year by get out. We're just moving a
[00:04:43] different direction. Knock knock knock.
[00:04:44] We're at your door. You're fired
[00:04:46] [laughter] and you better hand me your
[00:04:48] computer or else. We just want to know
[00:04:50] what happened here. Anyway, being a
[00:04:53] 501c3 company, being a charity, making
[00:04:57] becoming a charitable organization makes
[00:04:59] you of course accountable to the public
[00:05:01] always. They are allowed to ask
[00:05:02] questions even if you want to send out a
[00:05:04] bunch of cease and desist letters. And
[00:05:07] thanks to this recent string of
[00:05:10] misguided firings, that's putting it
[00:05:11] mildly, we did happen to get our hands
[00:05:15] on an audio recording of a corporatewide
[00:05:18] Zoom call which took place pretty
[00:05:21] immediately following Charlie's
[00:05:22] memorial. So for clarity, this call took
[00:05:25] took place on Monday, uh, September
[00:05:28] 22nd. So this is 11 days
[00:05:34] less than two weeks after her husband
[00:05:35] was publicly assassinated in front of
[00:05:37] the entire world. It's important to
[00:05:38] remember that it's also less than 48
[00:05:41] hours about 48 hours after his uh
[00:05:44] private Catholic funeral mass which the
[00:05:48] public was not privy to. Um but top
[00:05:51] paying donors were that's also odd.
[00:05:53] We'll save that for another day. I just
[00:05:55] think that you should know that. I want
[00:05:57] to plug that into our master timeline,
[00:06:00] which I know I keep promising you I'm
[00:06:01] going to publish. I will. Uh, so we know
[00:06:04] on September 10th, Charlie is
[00:06:06] assassinated. This is bottom of the
[00:06:08] timeline. Uh, on the 18th, this, by the
[00:06:12] way, strikes me as odd in the
[00:06:14] retrospect. As I was working on these
[00:06:16] couple of episodes about Erica,
[00:06:18] on the 18th, just 8 days after the
[00:06:20] assassination, she gave an inperson
[00:06:23] interview with the New York Times at her
[00:06:27] and Charlie's condo.
[00:06:30] Okay. Now, regarding the New York Times
[00:06:33] profile piece, I was totally in a cloud
[00:06:37] of grief by myself when all of that went
[00:06:39] down. Okay. You remember I had to go
[00:06:41] away to Wyoming just to breathe.
[00:06:44] um to process to get closer to accepting
[00:06:49] that it was real. I I went away for two
[00:06:51] weeks. I didn't I didn't really catch
[00:06:54] the fact that it was an inperson meeting
[00:06:58] until later. 8 days after his public
[00:07:00] assassination, she sits down for a piece
[00:07:04] with the publication that hated Charlie
[00:07:06] the entire time he was alive. New York
[00:07:07] Times was constantly writing pieces
[00:07:09] about Charlie Kirk or pieces that just
[00:07:10] were not kind or favorable to Charlie
[00:07:12] Kirk. So, it's an interesting decision
[00:07:15] and reading the article or rereading
[00:07:17] because somebody said you should
[00:07:18] actually go back and revisit everything
[00:07:20] that transpired in the days after and
[00:07:22] you kind of have new eyes and that's
[00:07:24] very true. But in reading that article
[00:07:26] in retrospect, something that I am
[00:07:29] particularly struck by is the fact that
[00:07:32] she describes suddenly being forced into
[00:07:36] the single mother position as the quote
[00:07:40] unquote least traumatizing thing.
[00:07:45] Becoming a single mother suddenly eight
[00:07:47] days later, she describes that as the
[00:07:49] least traumatizing thing. Again, that's
[00:07:51] an exact quotation. I I'll read it. You
[00:07:53] can see it. Uh she's they're going into
[00:07:56] this they're speaking about Trump's
[00:07:58] energy and his tone toward her on phone
[00:08:00] calls and it reads quote from her. The
[00:08:03] president's tone she said was soft and
[00:08:06] embracing. I could tell he wanted to hug
[00:08:09] me. Others have responded in the same
[00:08:12] manner to Ms. Kirk, now left to care for
[00:08:14] a three-year-old daughter and a
[00:08:16] one-year-old son. That new life, Miss
[00:08:18] Kirk said, quote, is actually the least
[00:08:22] traumatizing thing for me since she
[00:08:25] herself has been raised by her mother
[00:08:27] after their parents divorced when she
[00:08:29] was young.
[00:08:32] And we're just supposed to pretend that
[00:08:34] that's completely normal or whatever. I
[00:08:36] I would figure maybe the least
[00:08:37] traumatizing bit would be something more
[00:08:39] mundane. Maybe along the lines, if this
[00:08:42] was a thing, if Charlie constantly
[00:08:43] filled up her gas tank and someone was
[00:08:45] like, "Well, who's going to fill up your
[00:08:46] gas tank?" She might reply, "That's
[00:08:48] actually the least traumatizing thing. I
[00:08:49] don't even care about that. That's just
[00:08:51] me filling up my car." That would be
[00:08:54] like the least traumatizing thing.
[00:08:55] Becoming a single mother after your
[00:08:57] husband is horrifically assassinated.
[00:08:59] realizing that your children are going
[00:09:00] to grow up without a father. A father
[00:09:01] who tooured the world and spoke about
[00:09:04] the importance of fatherhood and relayed
[00:09:07] the statistics pertaining to the youth
[00:09:08] that grow up uh without their fathers in
[00:09:11] the home. I would describe that as very
[00:09:14] traumatizing. I think across the board
[00:09:16] that's a traumatizing thing, not the
[00:09:18] least traumatizing thing by any stretch
[00:09:20] of an imagination. Anyway, we are now in
[00:09:24] season 7, episode 4 of Everybody
[00:09:26] Grieavves Differently. But that's weird.
[00:09:30] Now, getting to this corporate call
[00:09:31] again. Can we just go back uh if you
[00:09:33] want to throw in that that uh schedule
[00:09:35] again? Sorry. The uh Yeah. Okay, great.
[00:09:38] So, we have this on the 10th. He's
[00:09:40] assassinated. On the 18th is that
[00:09:41] inerson interview with New York Times.
[00:09:43] On the 20th, we have the funeral mass
[00:09:47] which is held at a church at 11:00 a.m.
[00:09:50] On the 21st is the public memorial event
[00:09:53] that is held at State Farm Stadium. And
[00:09:55] on the 22nd, which I had not mentioned
[00:09:57] before, I've been building this timeline
[00:09:58] in the background. There's a private
[00:10:00] dinner. Not going to mention what
[00:10:02] restaurant it's at, but the McCoys are
[00:10:04] there. Elizabeth, Mikey, Erica, uh, and
[00:10:07] they're in joyous spirits is exactly
[00:10:11] what the email said of someone who was
[00:10:12] there. They were in joyous spirits.
[00:10:16] Okay. Just want to get that.
[00:10:19] I think a lot of this uh when you hear
[00:10:22] this call um that I'm about to play for
[00:10:24] you, I again I'm not trying to color
[00:10:28] your opinion, but I am going to give you
[00:10:29] mine because it's my podcast. I'm
[00:10:30] allowed to do it. I do want to remind
[00:10:32] you that Charlie has not been dead for
[00:10:34] two weeks. That's where we have to go
[00:10:36] back to two not even two weeks after
[00:10:40] Charlie was publicly assassinated. not a
[00:10:42] normal. He didn't um we had to watch
[00:10:45] this. We had to to visually watch this.
[00:10:48] Now, the entirety of this call, which
[00:10:49] we're not going to play, is 15 minutes
[00:10:51] long. I'm going to figure out how to
[00:10:52] just drop it on my X feed. Uh but I want
[00:10:56] to make sure that we properly and fairly
[00:10:58] contextualize it. So, we're not being
[00:11:00] choosy. We're not cutting this for
[00:11:01] drama. The obvious point of this call to
[00:11:04] set this up is to introduce Erica. She's
[00:11:08] the she's a new leader. Not even
[00:11:09] introducing. She's just heading up this
[00:11:10] call. But obviously she's going to be
[00:11:11] the at the helm of this. So they're
[00:11:13] getting to know her and she does begin
[00:11:15] the call by being thankful to the entire
[00:11:17] Turning Point USA team for their work at
[00:11:20] the memorial event. So let's take a
[00:11:23] listen.
[00:11:24] >> Hi everybody. I still love all these
[00:11:27] emoji Zoom [laughter]
[00:11:30] things. Um wow.
[00:11:34] I don't even know where to begin. The
[00:11:36] fact that we were able to pull off
[00:11:40] an event
[00:11:42] of a century, like it's just insane. We
[00:11:45] had over 275,000
[00:11:48] people that attended and
[00:11:53] stadium overflow,
[00:11:56] Westgate.
[00:11:57] Insane, you guys. And then you have was
[00:12:01] it 100 million over
[00:12:06] you guys that heard the gospel and all
[00:12:09] about Charlie and all about everything
[00:12:12] that you guys do and the hard work of
[00:12:14] Turning Point USA is insane. We had
[00:12:16] thousands that were registered to vote.
[00:12:19] I think we're at like over 200,000 for
[00:12:23] merch sales. Don't quote me on that
[00:12:25] because I think it just keeps like
[00:12:26] bumping up like crazy. But I just wanted
[00:12:28] to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to
[00:12:31] the events team, the development team,
[00:12:34] the graphic design team, the production
[00:12:36] team, just phenomenal. Their incredible
[00:12:39] work um leading into the memorial.
[00:12:42] Um and honestly, a lot of this the staff
[00:12:44] that worked on the memorial, they had
[00:12:48] 20our days for a week during the time of
[00:12:50] us grieving the loss of my husband. And
[00:12:53] honestly, I know several staff that
[00:12:56] didn't even sleep. Um, again, you guys
[00:12:59] are
[00:13:01] breathing angels, and I'm so grateful
[00:13:04] for all of you. And obviously, a huge
[00:13:06] thank you to the Mosaic team, VI. You
[00:13:09] guys are 10 out of 10. Like, there's we
[00:13:12] have the most incredible team. We just
[00:13:15] do. And you guys know that and you guys
[00:13:18] are all a part of that. And I am so so
[00:13:20] thankful. Um, and if you do have a
[00:13:23] moment and you run into any of those
[00:13:24] staff members that you know that you
[00:13:26] know had a role in this and you know um
[00:13:32] that they put a lot of their time and
[00:13:35] effort into it, just say thank you.
[00:13:37] There's something really special um to
[00:13:39] be seen um in moments like this and it's
[00:13:43] not easy. I'm speaking from experience.
[00:13:46] I'm right in the trenches with you guys.
[00:13:48] Um, and so the fact that you just a
[00:13:50] simple thank you. I don't care if any of
[00:13:53] you have beef with each other from the
[00:13:55] past or have any issues with
[00:13:59] someone said something about this or
[00:14:00] that. Like, if you guys have any of
[00:14:02] that, please put it to rest. My
[00:14:04] husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to
[00:14:05] be morbid, but he's dead. And it puts
[00:14:08] life into perspective of how short life
[00:14:10] is and relationships. And God puts
[00:14:13] people in your life for a reason. And it
[00:14:14] teaches you a lesson. It teaches them a
[00:14:16] lesson. So if you are going through a
[00:14:17] time where
[00:14:19] just lay it to rest and we are moving
[00:14:22] forward turning point USA 2.0 with
[00:14:25] Charlie in our hearts and that's what he
[00:14:27] would want.
[00:14:29] >> Okay. So I'm just looking at the chat
[00:14:32] here and you guys are responding live in
[00:14:35] the way that I felt live listening to
[00:14:38] this. It is the general tone that is
[00:14:41] offputting. It's the laughter that is
[00:14:43] offputting. It's again, we are not even
[00:14:45] 2 weeks after watching your husband be
[00:14:47] assassinated. We're talking about
[00:14:49] numbers and metrics that have been hit.
[00:14:52] And my husband's dead. Not to be morbid.
[00:14:54] That is a sentence that I and this was
[00:14:57] not my husband and I had no sort of the
[00:15:01] type of relationship that she had with
[00:15:02] him that I was able to utter. Last of
[00:15:05] all, I mean, that's moving pretty
[00:15:07] quickly to the acceptance phase. Now, we
[00:15:11] know everybody grieavves differently. In
[00:15:14] my imagination,
[00:15:16] I don't I just thought she would be more
[00:15:21] upset. And I want to be clear, the
[00:15:24] overall mood of this call is
[00:15:26] extraordinarily upbeat. It's
[00:15:28] extraordinarily happy. But of course, as
[00:15:30] the CEO and chairman, she does have to
[00:15:32] address the elephant in the room, the
[00:15:34] morbid uh elephant in the room, if you
[00:15:37] will, because it's an obligation. and
[00:15:39] you have a new CEO. The employees are
[00:15:41] working 20our days, but also their
[00:15:44] founder Charlie was publicly
[00:15:45] assassinated less than two weeks ago.
[00:15:47] You got to address that. And you're
[00:15:48] going to hear her address that by
[00:15:51] recapping to them that throughout these
[00:15:53] long working days, the employees were
[00:15:55] provided with ample resources while they
[00:15:59] were working.
[00:16:01] Take a listen. I'm just grateful that
[00:16:06] while things were still in motion and
[00:16:10] moving around that we had our leadership
[00:16:14] teams provide for you,
[00:16:17] counselors,
[00:16:18] pastors. I heard there were therapy
[00:16:21] dogs. Slightly jealous that I didn't get
[00:16:23] to have any a moment with a therapy dog.
[00:16:27] Um, breakfast. I was I was really
[00:16:29] adamant about making sure that we paid
[00:16:31] for your flights for your spouses to be
[00:16:33] there. That was something on my heart.
[00:16:35] Um
[00:16:37] you don't want to grieve alone. No one's
[00:16:39] supposed to grieve alone. It's not
[00:16:41] healthy. Um but I just think it's a
[00:16:44] beautiful honor that all all of these
[00:16:47] benefits were made for the community to
[00:16:50] grieve and remember Charlie. Um, and I
[00:16:52] really hope you took advantage of those
[00:16:54] in a healthy way when they were provided
[00:16:57] because it's meant to be for everyone
[00:16:59] for healing. Grief comes in waves. Um,
[00:17:03] you know, some days are going to be
[00:17:04] tougher than others, but
[00:17:07] you know, take it as it comes. And
[00:17:10] that's why you have your turning point
[00:17:11] family and just lean on them and lean on
[00:17:15] other people in your life that you know
[00:17:17] will help you and pour into you and pray
[00:17:19] with you to get you through it. Um, I
[00:17:22] say that though that if you do need more
[00:17:25] time to grieve,
[00:17:27] um, please continue to use um, Turning
[00:17:31] Point USA's network of counselors. Um,
[00:17:34] we have pastors. I mean, there are so
[00:17:36] many resources for you. If you do need
[00:17:39] additional time off, um, please talk to
[00:17:42] your director
[00:17:44] um, about using paid time off uh, for
[00:17:47] that. Um and again it's not not easy but
[00:17:55] again grief is hard. Um otherwise
[00:18:00] honestly uh Turning Point USA and
[00:18:01] Turning Point Action
[00:18:05] will steam ahead you guys. We have
[00:18:07] Charlie would want us to get back to
[00:18:09] work and that's what we're doing and
[00:18:10] that's what we did with the memorial and
[00:18:12] I'm so honored and proud of each and
[00:18:13] every one of you because that's what
[00:18:14] we're going to do in his honor and in
[00:18:16] his name. We have
[00:18:19] so much to [clears throat] do which is
[00:18:21] exciting. U Charlie in heaven is like
[00:18:26] you guys thought you had a busy schedule
[00:18:28] then just you wait and he's doing some
[00:18:31] awesome things with Jesus in heaven
[00:18:33] right now but there's so much work to be
[00:18:35] done. I mean, since his assassination,
[00:18:39] uh, we have 100,000
[00:18:42] chapter 100,000 chapter requests. Uh, we
[00:18:45] have 300,000 new donors.
[00:18:49] That is a blessing in itself. Um,
[00:18:54] again, not normal. Oh, God. Um, I think
[00:18:58] we have 50,000 plus hat orders to
[00:19:02] fulfill. I mean, I'm saying these
[00:19:03] numbers because it puts into perspective
[00:19:06] that we're not just sitting and thinking
[00:19:10] and looking at the wall being like, what
[00:19:12] do we do like that? There is so much to
[00:19:14] do. You have over 20,000 Afest
[00:19:17] registrations.
[00:19:20] There's a lot happening there and none
[00:19:22] of it is what I would be expecting to
[00:19:24] happen there. So basically what the
[00:19:26] employees said to me was that they got
[00:19:29] onto this call and you know everyone's
[00:19:31] exhausted, everyone's been working and
[00:19:32] they pull off this massive memorial and
[00:19:35] then there's kind of this approach where
[00:19:37] it's like well if you guys need paid
[00:19:39] time off like Charlie's in heaven
[00:19:41] dancing wanting you to work harder. He's
[00:19:43] just up there like you better work but
[00:19:46] you can use the paid time off that you
[00:19:48] have earned by the way if you need to
[00:19:51] grieve more. But imagine you're the
[00:19:52] employee. You're like, "Okay, well, this
[00:19:53] is his wife saying this, so am I weird?
[00:19:55] Would I be like, I would be pretty weird
[00:19:57] if I needed to take time off and his
[00:19:59] wife is saying she's full steam ahead?"
[00:20:02] That's that's the mentality they had.
[00:20:04] Like, how how are we supposed like are
[00:20:06] we weird for wanting to grieve? Is that
[00:20:10] not the vibe? How can we take paytime
[00:20:13] off when Erica's wife is saying full
[00:20:16] steam ahead? It's very strange. It is uh
[00:20:20] even kind of using this idea of Charlie
[00:20:22] being um in heaven looking down and the
[00:20:28] laughter.
[00:20:29] I I don't know. I feel like the rest of
[00:20:33] you and I feel uncomfortable. And of
[00:20:34] course now what we're going to listen to
[00:20:36] is her pivot to the future vision
[00:20:39] because that's what the bulk of this is
[00:20:41] about. And we it's going to consist of
[00:20:44] the notebooks that I keep telling you
[00:20:45] the public is never going to see.
[00:20:47] Apparently, what I gather from this is
[00:20:48] that Charlie presented to the staff a
[00:20:51] vision for 2025, but Erica is going to
[00:20:53] say that there was a vision beyond that
[00:20:55] uh all the way to 2030. And there is a
[00:20:59] there's a project 2030.
[00:21:02] And then she's going to kind of want to
[00:21:06] say that she's happy, but then catch
[00:21:07] herself realizing that that would be
[00:21:09] kind of weird to say that she's happy.
[00:21:10] Take a listen. The prophetic mind of my
[00:21:13] husband
[00:21:16] was that he always planned for the
[00:21:19] future. You guys are obviously aware of
[00:21:21] like vision 2025, but Charlie was also
[00:21:25] working on vision 2030 in the weeks
[00:21:28] leading up to September 10th. And that's
[00:21:30] and he was working really closely with
[00:21:32] Justin. And that's why Justin had been
[00:21:34] appointed the role of COO because he was
[00:21:39] literally I remember phone calls when
[00:21:42] Charlie and I would take our night walks
[00:21:44] and it would be 10:00 at night and him
[00:21:46] and Justin would just be talking about
[00:21:48] the plans. I was aware of the plans.
[00:21:52] I have his journals that are aware of
[00:21:54] the plans. Like there is no confusion
[00:21:58] of what's to come. And I want to give
[00:22:01] you guys that reassurance that
[00:22:05] it's full seam ahead and the board and I
[00:22:09] are working with Justin and the
[00:22:11] executive leadership teams to make sure
[00:22:13] that all of those plans come into effect
[00:22:16] 2030 and beyond. Um, but I again am so
[00:22:21] grateful for all of you. I'm so proud of
[00:22:23] all of you. Um,
[00:22:26] you honor my husband so well. All of you
[00:22:29] do. And
[00:22:32] it's weird to say I'm excited. I I
[00:22:35] really hesitate saying that. It's really
[00:22:37] hard for me to say that. It's a really
[00:22:40] weird thing to say, but I think it comes
[00:22:42] from a space of peace,
[00:22:46] knowing that God's
[00:22:49] using this and we're humbly witnessing
[00:22:53] the gospel in real time.
[00:23:00] I don't know what to say.
[00:23:03] She doesn't want to say she's happy. I
[00:23:04] don't want to say I'm happy, but I where
[00:23:07] it comes from. Let me explain the
[00:23:08] happiness that I feel. It comes from
[00:23:10] peace
[00:23:12] because we're witnessing the gospel in
[00:23:14] real time. All of that all of this makes
[00:23:18] my skin crawl. It genuinely makes my
[00:23:20] skin crawl. I'm going to go ahead and
[00:23:21] say that. You can go find your
[00:23:23] commentator who's going to tell you
[00:23:24] everybody griefs differently. Nope. We
[00:23:26] are That is less than two weeks after
[00:23:27] Charlie was publicly assassinated.
[00:23:29] That's that's not that doesn't that
[00:23:31] doesn't feel right to me. it doesn't
[00:23:32] feel right uh to I would say the
[00:23:35] majority of people or that doesn't feel
[00:23:38] right uh knowing that they're joyous at
[00:23:41] dinners and again this is when people
[00:23:44] who did not know Charlie could not stop
[00:23:48] crying and were sending me emails who
[00:23:49] have never met Charlie who didn't even
[00:23:51] know at Turning Point USA was uh because
[00:23:54] they watched his assassination could not
[00:23:56] stop crying and pull themselves together
[00:23:59] that is not the emotion that we're
[00:24:00] getting there like I said the entire
[00:24:03] call is upbeat
[00:24:05] and the portions where we are even
[00:24:08] speaking about grief. It it feels like
[00:24:10] an obligation like you know we done you
[00:24:13] got the dogs and what Charlie wants is
[00:24:16] for you to work now and that is that is
[00:24:18] how the employees that I have spoken to
[00:24:20] who are on that call that's how they
[00:24:21] felt. I my assumption, by the way, why
[00:24:23] I'm addressing this now is because my
[00:24:25] assumption watching um everything that's
[00:24:28] gone on, my assumption was that she
[00:24:31] really was trying to figure things out.
[00:24:32] I I I assumed in the silence, right, she
[00:24:35] wasn't doing interviews then. I assumed
[00:24:37] she couldn't get out of bed. I assumed
[00:24:39] that she couldn't pick her head up. And
[00:24:40] I felt that people were being unfair in
[00:24:43] judging outfits and in judging uh you
[00:24:48] know, whether or not they liked how her
[00:24:50] hair was done. I said, "Okay, she's
[00:24:51] speaking at the memorial. We expect her
[00:24:53] to speak at the memorial event." I felt
[00:24:55] the public was being unfair. Now that
[00:24:57] we're kind of getting more on the inside
[00:24:59] organization,
[00:25:00] the now fired employees are telling me
[00:25:02] no. It was quite the opposite. She was
[00:25:04] in the office every day with Stacy
[00:25:07] Sheridan, running around with Stacy
[00:25:08] Sheridan, taking phone calls with Stacy
[00:25:10] Sheridan. That's like the head of the
[00:25:11] fundraising for Turning Point USA. So,
[00:25:13] what I had imagined in my head was
[00:25:15] happening simply was not. So
[00:25:20] something is not right. That's what I
[00:25:25] would like to say. That does not that
[00:25:26] call the timing the energy of that call
[00:25:29] does not feel right to me. This um I
[00:25:34] don't know. I don't know. I don't know
[00:25:35] what's happening, but I think we are
[00:25:37] inching closer to figuring out what's
[00:25:40] going on. That's for sure. And we will
[00:25:42] have more for you in the coming weeks.
[00:25:45] It also led me to another stunning
[00:25:47] discovery that we have made in large
[00:25:50] part thanks to internet sleuths. There
[00:25:53] was a lot of media panicking when we
[00:25:56] discussed Project Looking Glass. We
[00:25:57] discussed the fact that Charlie was
[00:25:59] indeed a gifted child who went to a
[00:26:01] literal children's school for the
[00:26:03] gifted. I told you guys also that street
[00:26:06] lights used to go out when he ran.
[00:26:07] There's a whole term for that.
[00:26:09] Apparently, a lot of people go through
[00:26:10] that. We saw that in the comment
[00:26:11] section. Now, what does it all mean? On
[00:26:13] my episode, I posited that the military
[00:26:16] was keeping its eye on quote unquote
[00:26:19] gate children, gifted children,
[00:26:21] different by different names, but you
[00:26:22] know, terminating it more broadly,
[00:26:24] children that go through the gate
[00:26:26] program, that Charlie's life may have
[00:26:27] therefore been a literal Truman show
[00:26:30] once they realized that he was
[00:26:31] extraordinarily gifted.
[00:26:33] So, let me remind you that when Charlie
[00:26:35] was having these visions about his death
[00:26:37] back in 2018, he specifically told me
[00:26:40] that he knew from the moment that he
[00:26:42] began Turning Point USA that he was
[00:26:44] going to die young. I'm going to show
[00:26:46] reshow you this uh text message again so
[00:26:48] you can see it. Literally, he writes,
[00:26:50] "Since the beginning of Turning Point
[00:26:53] USA, I knew in my gut that I might get
[00:26:56] wiped out at any time. I cannot explain
[00:26:57] it, but I dream about it all the time.
[00:26:59] Like all the time. Not really afraid of
[00:27:02] it, but I'm just telling you what I know
[00:27:04] to be true. I'm not sure I'm going to
[00:27:06] live begins with I'm not sure I'm going
[00:27:08] to live to see the end of this
[00:27:09] revolution. But interesting what he says
[00:27:11] since the beginning of Turning Point
[00:27:13] USA. We should probably therefore go
[00:27:14] back to the founding story of Turning
[00:27:17] Point USA. The story the public knows
[00:27:19] and the story that I was told is that
[00:27:20] Charlie was this teenager, didn't get
[00:27:22] into West Point. Anyway, he's speaking
[00:27:25] at a conference where a man named Bill
[00:27:30] Montgomery happened to be in attendance.
[00:27:32] He has since passed. I've met Bill
[00:27:33] Montgomery. He's very kind to me. Um,
[00:27:36] and my point in bringing this up is not
[00:27:38] to throw any shade on him, but because
[00:27:39] I'm now interested in this origin story.
[00:27:42] Um, anyways, he's in attendance. He's
[00:27:44] absolutely floored uh at at Benedict Dy
[00:27:46] University. When Charlie speaks, he
[00:27:48] immediately knew that he was sort of
[00:27:50] looking at a future president. This is
[00:27:52] an article. I think it was done in the
[00:27:53] Atlantic back in uh it doesn't matter
[00:27:56] what year. Anyways, it reads in the
[00:27:58] Atlantic. Montgomery was at Benedictton
[00:28:00] University in western Chicago suburb of
[00:28:03] Lyall, Illinois for the college's youth
[00:28:06] government day in May of 2012. The slate
[00:28:09] of speakers put the kids to sleep, he
[00:28:14] told the National Journal. But when Kirk
[00:28:16] took the floor, the energy in the room
[00:28:18] completely changed. The kids weren't
[00:28:19] sleeping anymore and their attention was
[00:28:21] wrapped on Kirk. Inspired, Montgomery
[00:28:24] went up to him after his speech and told
[00:28:27] him as only a man 50 years senior can
[00:28:30] say that he needed to delay college to
[00:28:32] pursue a higher calling. Quote, "I don't
[00:28:35] know you," Montgomery recalled saying.
[00:28:36] "But you need to start an organization
[00:28:39] to reach out to young people with your
[00:28:40] message." A month after Montgomery met
[00:28:43] Kirk, the duo launched Turning Point
[00:28:45] USA. want you to hold on to that phrase,
[00:28:47] I don't know you, but
[00:28:50] again, that's the same story that I was
[00:28:51] told. So, I was a bit surprised to learn
[00:28:54] that there may be a larger story here.
[00:28:57] Now, Bill Montgomery was Air Force. He's
[00:28:59] in the Air Force reserves. Uh, Bill
[00:29:01] Montgomery also happened to be from
[00:29:04] Lincoln, Nebraska. Get getting into that
[00:29:06] one of those Egyptian plane stops. A lot
[00:29:08] of these people are tied to Lincoln,
[00:29:11] Nebraska that are in this story. Saving
[00:29:14] that for another day. Now, not much is
[00:29:16] known about what specifically Bill
[00:29:18] Montgomery did during his time in the
[00:29:20] military, but we do know that he moved
[00:29:22] to the Chicago area thereafter, which
[00:29:26] obviously in the area where Charlie's
[00:29:28] X-Men School was. Uh the X-Men School, I
[00:29:30] just like to call it that, was actually
[00:29:32] called Creative Children's Academy. It
[00:29:35] opened in 1982 for the academically
[00:29:37] gifted. Um from preschool up into the
[00:29:40] eighth grade. In 1999, it changed its
[00:29:42] name officially to Quest Academy. It
[00:29:46] tells us uh on its website or I'm sorry,
[00:29:48] in a past article that it receives
[00:29:50] corporate and private funding from who?
[00:29:53] We don't know. What I would like to know
[00:29:55] what corporations funded that academy.
[00:29:59] What we do know is that it's a stones
[00:30:01] throw from Northrup Grumman, the massive
[00:30:04] aerospace and defense company that has
[00:30:06] extensive federal contracts dating back
[00:30:07] to World War II. Just put that fact in
[00:30:09] the back of your mind. It may mean
[00:30:11] nothing at all, but I just want to say
[00:30:12] that because it I it came up when I was
[00:30:14] researching the general area in
[00:30:16] Palatine, Illinois. Now, the Children's,
[00:30:18] like I uh Children's Creative Academy, I
[00:30:20] should tell you, was founded by a woman
[00:30:22] named Helen Barts. Okay. Her husband is
[00:30:26] a Reverend Robert Barts of Arlington
[00:30:29] Heights. Helen Barts. Now, a tip that I
[00:30:32] received and I was able to confirm is
[00:30:34] that Helen Barts was actually good
[00:30:36] friends with Bill Montgomery and his
[00:30:38] wife Edith Montgomery. Edith Walker
[00:30:41] Montgomery. She actually goes by her
[00:30:43] last name, Edith Walker. The person
[00:30:45] claims that Edith Walker, who I've since
[00:30:48] learned immigrated from Germany after
[00:30:50] World War II, and I can't really find
[00:30:52] much else about her, uh, became a, and
[00:30:55] this is correct, an adolescent
[00:30:57] psychiatric nurse. So, she was a
[00:31:00] psychiatric nurse to the youth and that
[00:31:03] she was actually the person that started
[00:31:05] the school with Helen Arts and that's
[00:31:08] has since virtually been wiped from
[00:31:10] public record. But that that's what
[00:31:12] you're missing is that these people all
[00:31:14] knew each other. The person claims that
[00:31:16] Bill and his wife and a certain Robert
[00:31:20] Flood who is in Dan Flood's family, this
[00:31:23] is what they claim, and I I I have since
[00:31:25] found this person, said that they knew
[00:31:27] each other since before the school even
[00:31:29] got started. They were all working for
[00:31:31] this evangelical
[00:31:33] uh company, evangelical salesforce known
[00:31:36] as the Shackley Corporation. It's still
[00:31:38] in existence today. I'm going to give
[00:31:40] you a bit of information. The Shackley
[00:31:42] Corporation was the first company that
[00:31:45] ever created a multivitamin in America.
[00:31:47] It grew to be a massive uh basically a
[00:31:50] middle- level management corporation
[00:31:52] which like I said commanded this
[00:31:53] evangelical sales force. Shackley was
[00:31:56] basically described as like a religious
[00:31:57] fervor that was sweeping the nation for
[00:32:00] nutrition. It was started by a man who
[00:32:02] preached the gospel of nutrition by our
[00:32:04] products but also the gospel um is what
[00:32:07] this is really about. And it grew to be
[00:32:09] a massive company that engaged in a
[00:32:11] 25-year contract with NASA. You're like,
[00:32:14] "What?" Yeah. For supplements that they
[00:32:16] could take to space. Now, it sounds to
[00:32:18] me like some good oldfashioned
[00:32:20] government moneyaundering. But sure, if
[00:32:22] if you are like Skyler and believe in
[00:32:24] the moon landing, sure, maybe you need
[00:32:25] some vitamins up there. Now, working off
[00:32:27] of this tip, I was indeed, like I said,
[00:32:30] able to confirm that Helen Barts. So,
[00:32:32] again, to give you these names, Helen
[00:32:33] Barts started the school and I confirmed
[00:32:35] that she did indeed prior to worked at
[00:32:38] Shackley. She actually ran the Shackley
[00:32:40] Center in Arlington Heights. I'm having
[00:32:42] a lot of trouble, and the reason why I'm
[00:32:43] putting this out there is I'm having
[00:32:44] trouble learning more about Bill and
[00:32:47] Edith. Uh, like I did Bill serve in the
[00:32:49] military. Uh, why specifically did he
[00:32:51] move Chicago? Where in Germany is Edith
[00:32:54] Walker from? who was her first husband
[00:32:57] because Walker was clearly not her first
[00:32:58] name when she moved here. Uh where
[00:33:00] exactly was she a psychiatric adolescent
[00:33:04] nurse? Uh again using her full name,
[00:33:06] Edith Marie Walker, uh in Arlington
[00:33:10] Heights
[00:33:12] where Charlie grew up. Did she see
[00:33:14] Charlie? Is that a plausibility? I would
[00:33:16] say yes. And I know that Charlie told me
[00:33:19] the story that they wanted to drug him
[00:33:21] when he was a kid, but his mom said no.
[00:33:24] My kid's a genius. and instead because
[00:33:25] his mother refused, they instead put him
[00:33:27] into this special school. Again, this is
[00:33:30] investigation, maybe at least nowhere.
[00:33:32] But this is sure as hell interesting
[00:33:33] enough for me to put it out there. Uh
[00:33:35] mostly because the idea that everything
[00:33:37] we know about Turning Point's origin
[00:33:38] story could also be incorrect is equal
[00:33:41] parts terrifying and fascinating. It
[00:33:43] would give new meaning to the idea of
[00:33:45] his life being the Truman Show. That's I
[00:33:47] think that's fair to state that. If you
[00:33:49] have any more information, uh please
[00:33:51] message us. email, send us an email at
[00:33:53] more [email protected].
[00:33:55] Maybe um your research will be better
[00:33:57] than mine, but I am particularly
[00:33:59] interested in Edith Walker. Um Edith
[00:34:03] Walker Montgomery and where she came
[00:34:05] from in Germany and who her family is
[00:34:07] was all very fascinating and interesting
[00:34:10] time in America indeed. Anyway, we'll
[00:34:12] take a brief break here before we come
[00:34:14] back and give you an update on the
[00:34:16] internet sleuththes after I gave you
[00:34:18] that message which sure read like a
[00:34:21] threat from a Christian Zionist.
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[00:36:00] Okay, let me connect some dots for you
[00:36:02] here. I see somebody in the chat. First
[00:36:03] off, you guys are freaking out about
[00:36:05] listening to that call. It makes
[00:36:06] everybody uncomfortable. That is normal.
[00:36:08] And now we are going to have to deal
[00:36:09] with the next psychological operation
[00:36:10] that tells us that it's wrong that we
[00:36:12] listened to the call. Goodbye. We don't
[00:36:14] care. Something's not right. We sense
[00:36:16] it's not right at Turning Point USA. And
[00:36:18] it feels like the people trying to get
[00:36:20] to the truth are being penalized. Okay.
[00:36:23] Now, I do want to say to you what is
[00:36:25] particularly I found to be interesting
[00:36:27] about this Bill Montgomery angle and
[00:36:29] this Shackley Corporation and their
[00:36:31] contract with NASA. And you've got to go
[00:36:33] way back. You got to go way back to my
[00:36:35] episode on the moon landing and why I
[00:36:37] don't believe the moon landing happened
[00:36:39] because Operation Paperclip, which
[00:36:41] somebody uh has called out in the chat
[00:36:43] already. Operation Paperclip was when we
[00:36:44] went over and we got these quote unquote
[00:36:46] scientists scientist Nazis from Germany
[00:36:49] and we brought him here and we're
[00:36:50] supposed to go, "Oh, that's all fine
[00:36:51] that the CIA did this because now we
[00:36:54] have we had the Apollo program. We went
[00:36:56] to the moon." What if we didn't go to
[00:36:59] the moon? What actually did we bring
[00:37:00] these scientists over for? These are the
[00:37:02] questions that I ask myself because I
[00:37:04] don't believe we went to the moon and I
[00:37:05] but I do believe we brought over these
[00:37:07] people and these families and I think
[00:37:08] they were demented people and they were
[00:37:10] sick people and we bury project Monarch
[00:37:14] which was the precursor to MK Ultra
[00:37:17] Breit Mcronone's trigger u in the
[00:37:19] lawsuit don't bring up MK Ultra the
[00:37:22] precursor being project Monarch Monarch
[00:37:24] where they were intentionally harming
[00:37:25] children um trying to sort of uh uh
[00:37:29] abuse people into compliance uh mind
[00:37:32] control. So that's interesting. That is
[00:37:34] interesting. And now we are seeing a
[00:37:38] bunch of people and I really do believe
[00:37:41] that these are the white walkers in our
[00:37:42] society. These people are among us that
[00:37:44] people are mind controlled slaves
[00:37:46] literally which was the entire purpose
[00:37:47] of Project Monarch. If you follow my
[00:37:49] idea
[00:37:51] uh the moonland didn't happen. My fact
[00:37:53] if you want to follow the facts the
[00:37:54] moonland didn't happen. And that would
[00:37:56] basically mean the CIA was bringing over
[00:37:58] perverts. Like just bring over a ton of
[00:38:00] perverts. and I'd like a list of their
[00:38:02] names. And I am very interested in how
[00:38:05] much NASA comes up in a lot of the stuff
[00:38:07] that I am researching. Now, this brings
[00:38:10] me to the most savage internet thing
[00:38:13] I've ever seen happen. Credit to at
[00:38:16] Brave Report. Uh some of these smaller
[00:38:19] accounts that just savage I I showed you
[00:38:21] guys this message. I said Turning
[00:38:24] Point's not going to come out and tell
[00:38:25] you who wrote this message. this Zionist
[00:38:28] who is spelling like you guys noted God
[00:38:31] putting a dash there. You guys were like
[00:38:33] that's not how Christians would write
[00:38:35] this. It turns out that well Lorie
[00:38:38] Cardardoza Moore The Brave Report pulled
[00:38:41] up as an evangelical Zionist who said
[00:38:44] that she then learned later on that
[00:38:45] she's Jewish but she is still an
[00:38:47] evangelical. She's a maniac. I mean
[00:38:49] there's no question she's a maniac. And
[00:38:51] virtually everything that was said in
[00:38:53] this text message was also a rant that
[00:38:56] Lori decided to do live on the internet
[00:38:58] pertaining to Tucker's totally sensible
[00:39:02] speech. Listen to Lorie Cardardoza Moore
[00:39:06] rant in her car.
[00:39:08] >> Carson with his mocking voice and his
[00:39:11] mocking laughter. They were horrified by
[00:39:14] what they saw. I had three couples reach
[00:39:16] out to me who had been to the Turning
[00:39:19] Point USA conference and this was in
[00:39:22] Tampa a couple weeks ago. They called me
[00:39:25] and said they were horrified by what
[00:39:27] they saw. Horrified. They saw Tucker
[00:39:30] Carlson get up and act like another
[00:39:33] crazy person talking condemning Israel
[00:39:36] praising Qatar with his mocking voice
[00:39:39] and his mocking laughter. So Tucker,
[00:39:43] right after him comes Michelle Bachmann.
[00:39:45] Michelle has five minutes to make an
[00:39:48] argument for why we have to stand with
[00:39:50] Israel. To these young people at D USA,
[00:39:53] when she starts talking in that
[00:39:55] conference about supporting Israel and
[00:39:58] and and why America should stand with
[00:40:00] Israel, the people in the audience start
[00:40:04] booing her. I spoke with her personally.
[00:40:07] She said 10% in the room got up and
[00:40:10] walked out on her. That is shameful.
[00:40:14] Then Charlie Kirk, this is his event.
[00:40:16] He's responsible for what people are
[00:40:18] saying and doing. Does he get up and
[00:40:20] condemn Tucker or correct Tucker for
[00:40:24] what he said about Israel and how
[00:40:26] dangerous Qatar is to us? No. Did
[00:40:30] Charlie get up and defend Michelle
[00:40:32] Bachmann? Did he condemn the people that
[00:40:34] got up and walked out on her that booed
[00:40:36] her? Did he say why we stand with Israel
[00:40:38] and we support Israel? No, he didn't.
[00:40:41] That tells us everything we need to
[00:40:44] know.
[00:40:46] >> Yeah. Christian Zionism, man. Sell your
[00:40:50] stocks immediately on Christian. You got
[00:40:52] to absolutely just sell sell as this is
[00:40:55] this is going down. You just see this is
[00:40:56] obviously it's almost like they just
[00:40:58] hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be
[00:41:01] Christians. That's the vibe that you
[00:41:02] start to get when you realize this is
[00:41:04] the only thing they care about. This is
[00:41:05] all they care about. And they will rant
[00:41:07] and they will rave and they will scream
[00:41:08] at you. And in case you are wondering
[00:41:11] why so many of them seem to have these
[00:41:13] extensive acting backgrounds, uh you can
[00:41:15] look no further than Lorie Cardardoza
[00:41:17] Moore because these internet sloohs
[00:41:20] aren't playing around. the DCIA, the
[00:41:22] decentralized intelligence agency, is
[00:41:25] moving quicker. And they found that,
[00:41:27] yeah, that's what Lor's background is in
[00:41:30] acting and for romance hotlines and
[00:41:33] things of the sort. So maybe she was
[00:41:35] just cast as a Christian. Take a look at
[00:41:38] this. Are you over 30 and single? You
[00:41:42] can find love and romance right here on
[00:41:44] the telephone on the romance hotline.
[00:41:47] Just call this number and all you have
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[00:42:10] >> She's not the only one by the way who
[00:42:12] was an actor and this is a person that
[00:42:13] I'm quite interested in which is her
[00:42:14] husband. Uh she is married to a man
[00:42:17] named Stanley Clark Moore. He has an Air
[00:42:20] Force background. Uh, also went to go
[00:42:23] work for NASA if if his Wikipedia is to
[00:42:26] be believed for a little bit. But little
[00:42:28] else is known about him other than the
[00:42:30] fact that he grew up on Air Force bases.
[00:42:32] Um, that he graduated from high school
[00:42:34] in Texas, humbly Texas. Which Air Force
[00:42:38] bases? Who is his father? I got to know
[00:42:41] who everybody's daddy is. You guys, you
[00:42:43] guys know me. I got to know. If I don't
[00:42:44] know who your granddad is, I don't trust
[00:42:45] you. I don't if you're in Texas in the
[00:42:48] 60s especially, I got to know who your
[00:42:50] granddad is. If your granddad was
[00:42:52] involved with the military, you got to
[00:42:53] tell me right now who's your granddad. I
[00:42:55] need to know who Stanley Clark's father
[00:42:58] was. So, internet sleuths. Get at it.
[00:43:01] Um, which air force base? Message us
[00:43:04] more tips at candacewowens.com.
[00:43:08] I feel like this this is important
[00:43:10] somehow and there's just a lot of
[00:43:13] military ties in all of this everywhere.
[00:43:16] I mean, even because we're kind of
[00:43:18] everywhere. Someone messaged me and let
[00:43:21] me know that Turning Point is, you know,
[00:43:22] shooting their Super Bowl commercial
[00:43:25] here in Tennessee in Nashville and
[00:43:28] they're working with this company where
[00:43:29] the CEO is from Loheed Martin just
[00:43:32] everywhere. It's military connections
[00:43:33] everywhere at all times. And I do kind
[00:43:36] of feel like the military cult has been
[00:43:38] in power since LBJ helped murder uh JFK
[00:43:42] set him up and then um I think cleaned
[00:43:45] house and put in his guys in the
[00:43:48] military. That's how I feel. Anyways,
[00:43:49] not at the bottom. Obviously, tons of
[00:43:51] brave American men and women uh who
[00:43:53] serve, but serve who? That's the
[00:43:56] question.
[00:43:58] Anyway, just wanted to very quickly
[00:44:00] comment because people were pinging me
[00:44:01] on this about Kanye taking out a full
[00:44:03] page in the Wall Street Journal to
[00:44:05] apologize Kanye's apology. Also uh sat
[00:44:09] down with Vanity Fair or answered
[00:44:11] questions for Vanity Fair about this
[00:44:13] apology whether or not he means it. He
[00:44:15] speaks about his bipolar episode. Said
[00:44:18] that he is on new meds, that 2025 uh or
[00:44:21] 2024 was a a tough year for him and
[00:44:24] there and that this is not a PR move
[00:44:26] that he is sorry to the people that he
[00:44:27] hurt. I just want to just broadly say
[00:44:30] this because this comes up all the time.
[00:44:32] There's always this Candace God. Yay.
[00:44:35] That I love Yay. He's like a brother to
[00:44:37] me. I am never going to turn my back on
[00:44:40] Yay. I'm here for the Yay of all
[00:44:42] seasons. He he and I agree on many
[00:44:45] things, disagree on many things at all
[00:44:46] times. If he wants to apologize to
[00:44:49] people that he specifically has hurt, he
[00:44:51] is welcome to do that. And of course,
[00:44:52] for people that are now trying to conrue
[00:44:55] this and attach and put like Candace,
[00:44:58] this has nothing to do with my
[00:44:59] viewpoints whatsoever on Israel, people
[00:45:02] who mass murder children. Uh
[00:45:05] so I support Yay and everything that he
[00:45:07] does, you know, and if I don't support
[00:45:08] him in anything, I will speak to him
[00:45:10] directly. So, I just wanted to state
[00:45:12] that because people were asking me,
[00:45:13] "What do you think about this?" It's
[00:45:14] Yay. Yay is always doing something uh
[00:45:17] whatever he wants to do. And the reason
[00:45:19] why he and I get on so well is because
[00:45:21] Yay's got to be Yay. And Candace has got
[00:45:22] to be Candace. It's just how it works.
[00:45:25] Anyway, we'll take a brief break and
[00:45:26] then I will get to some of your messages
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[00:48:07] Okay, reading for you guys the top
[00:48:09] comment from last episode. Uh, Michelle
[00:48:13] wrote, "Didn't Erica Kirk say that no
[00:48:15] one can talk bad about her TPUSA family,
[00:48:17] but then she fires them without a
[00:48:18] reason? Make that make sense? It doesn't
[00:48:20] make any sense. And my general opinion
[00:48:23] now is that she is, this is my opinion,
[00:48:25] since we caught Andrew Kovette with the
[00:48:27] parent tact parent paramount tactical
[00:48:30] tweet, holding it that she's
[00:48:32] orchestrating a lot behind the scenes
[00:48:33] and keeping her hands clean. I think
[00:48:35] that became very obvious to me in that
[00:48:37] moment and then going backward and
[00:48:39] finding that these are she's not
[00:48:41] misspeaking. I mean, sometimes she's
[00:48:42] just saying a lie, right? I lived in
[00:48:45] China. No, I didn't live I never lived
[00:48:46] in China. Then you go backward and you
[00:48:48] go, you know, I didn't never date
[00:48:50] anybody. And people are constantly
[00:48:51] trying to clean that up. It's like, you
[00:48:52] don't say, I didn't date for five years
[00:48:54] if you did date for five years. And then
[00:48:55] they're like, well, no, just meant in
[00:48:57] New York City. Like, that's the most
[00:48:58] ridiculous thing I've ever heard that
[00:49:00] you just That just makes no sense. If
[00:49:02] you had a boyfriend the whole time you
[00:49:03] were in New York City, but he happened
[00:49:04] to live in Philadelphia. You don't say,
[00:49:06] "I didn't date for 5 years." That's
[00:49:08] that's not what you say. You could say I
[00:49:10] didn't date anybody from New York City,
[00:49:14] but I'm kind of getting tired of
[00:49:15] everyone like extending things and not
[00:49:17] just calling out something that's just
[00:49:19] not true. It's just not true. Becca uh
[00:49:24] writes, "When Erica talks, she is so
[00:49:26] boring. She has not had that special
[00:49:28] thing that Charlie had, and it will be
[00:49:29] the end of Turning Point USA if they
[00:49:30] don't make a change fast. She is
[00:49:31] unlikable on the surface because she
[00:49:33] acts elite. Goodbye, Turning Point USA."
[00:49:36] Well, it's interesting that you say that
[00:49:37] because that, as I told you, was the
[00:49:39] feedback that a lot of these employees
[00:49:41] who got fired had. They had no access to
[00:49:44] her. It didn't feel like Charlie.
[00:49:45] Charlie felt accessible. They knew what
[00:49:47] his vision was. He He was that way.
[00:49:49] Genuinely, he was that way. He was
[00:49:51] certainly not an elitist in any way
[00:49:54] whatsoever.
[00:49:55] Like I said to even want to buy, even
[00:49:57] when he had the money, just buy himself
[00:49:58] a suit, go to a tailor, and things of
[00:50:00] that nature because he wanted to be a
[00:50:01] good steward of Turning Point USA. um
[00:50:04] the the money that's coming in because
[00:50:06] obviously the majority of the money
[00:50:07] comes from small pocket donors and it it
[00:50:12] seems like every effort that they are
[00:50:13] exerting is to go after people who are
[00:50:16] trying to find out the truth about what
[00:50:19] happened to Charlie Kirk. That doesn't
[00:50:21] make sense. You can't make that make
[00:50:22] sense. You can't make a call like that
[00:50:24] make sense to people. Jay Burgerer
[00:50:26] writes, "Don't forget MLK started
[00:50:28] college at 15 and had a faith-based
[00:50:30] movement by the time that he was 21. I
[00:50:33] actually did not know all of that. I am
[00:50:34] ashamed of myself. Coffee addicted Mama
[00:50:36] Bear writes, "I ordered your book the
[00:50:37] second you said you were shipping to
[00:50:38] Canada." Oh, yep. Make him a sandwich.
[00:50:40] We now ship to Canada. It was truly eye
[00:50:42] opening. I'm sure you had a good time
[00:50:44] reading it. I It's very funny to go
[00:50:45] backward and to realize where turn where
[00:50:48] feminism has gone. It's just very funny
[00:50:51] and sad and weird. Continue. I am
[00:50:54] impatiently waiting for my conspiracy
[00:50:56] girly cup. It shall be there. Your
[00:50:57] constant devotion to truth, your
[00:50:58] loyalty, and your strength are truly
[00:51:00] inspiring. Go Max, girl. Man, I should
[00:51:02] just read your comment. I didn't even
[00:51:03] have to do shameless self-promotion
[00:51:04] because your comment was so kind and you
[00:51:06] promoted everything that we have. But
[00:51:08] this is this is definitely great. It's a
[00:51:10] great gift. You should have the
[00:51:11] conspiracy girl mug mug. Sorry for the
[00:51:13] fellas. You should buy the conspiracy
[00:51:15] girl girly mug for a lady in your life
[00:51:17] that you care about because Valentine's
[00:51:19] Day is around the corner obviously and
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[00:51:25] Adriana New Jersey writes, "Erica plays
[00:51:28] a role that she thinks men want. She did
[00:51:31] not have the same values as Charlie and
[00:51:33] now is pedalling back. The comment in
[00:51:35] the New York Times was, "Who needs a
[00:51:37] man? Being a single mother is okay."
[00:51:39] That is the opposite of Charlie's views.
[00:51:42] I can't justify that comment. To refer
[00:51:45] to it as the least traumatizing thing
[00:51:47] is, I think what bothers me. The least
[00:51:50] traumatizing.
[00:51:52] Huh? It's traumatizing full stop. It's
[00:51:55] tra It should traumatize you full stop.
[00:51:58] Joseph Brown writes, "Candice Owens,
[00:52:01] uh, curious." Joel writes,
[00:52:02] "Geoengineering has become really fake
[00:52:04] and gay. The sidewalks at my apartments
[00:52:06] were covered in ice. It was like
[00:52:07] styrofoam. I could walk uh to my work on
[00:52:12] them, no problem. The ice literally had
[00:52:13] a grip. H A RP must be drunk." I We
[00:52:17] could speak a lot about geoengineering
[00:52:18] and I believe that it would lead us to
[00:52:22] NASA's doorsteps because I don't think
[00:52:23] they've been trying to get to the moon.
[00:52:26] do think that during the Korean War, as
[00:52:28] we learned throughout that chaos book,
[00:52:30] that we were experimenting with spraying
[00:52:35] uh spraying people, spraying products
[00:52:37] and I think that that is the the true
[00:52:39] reason that or uh the true reason that
[00:52:41] NASA came together, mass poisoning
[00:52:43] people. I I I believe that. Dagert Ar
[00:52:48] Dagber Jonah writes, "Can you wish my
[00:52:51] beautiful wife Cresenda Arj Arjona?" I
[00:52:54] hope I'm saying it right. Is it Arjuna?
[00:52:56] Probably. Cresenda Aona a happy
[00:52:58] birthday. Cresenda Aona, happy birthday.
[00:53:00] I hope that's Spanish. If not, then this
[00:53:02] is just weird. But thank you so much for
[00:53:04] your support. You write that she's a big
[00:53:05] fan of mine. Uh, God bless you. God
[00:53:08] bless you. And Cresenda Arona, if it's
[00:53:11] not Spanish, it is now. Seven Sheets
[00:53:13] writes, "I didn't know that much about
[00:53:14] CK before this, but could tell a man of
[00:53:16] integrity. I feel like I mourned him
[00:53:18] longer than EK or TPUSA did. I would
[00:53:20] never believe the slop and will support
[00:53:22] any voice that is seeking truth. Thank
[00:53:24] you. God bless you." There's something
[00:53:25] about this story that I think makes us
[00:53:27] all feel like we're not safe. Like, if
[00:53:29] they could do that to Charlie and he was
[00:53:31] playing the game and get away with it,
[00:53:33] what are we all doing? Like, we should
[00:53:34] that we should just be revoling at all
[00:53:36] hours of the day. I can't even listen to
[00:53:37] anything Trump says anymore. I don't
[00:53:38] care about anything at all. I'm just
[00:53:40] like, "Shut up. I hate everybody. You're
[00:53:42] all fake. You're You're all actors.
[00:53:45] Actually, that's how I feel. I look at
[00:53:46] all of them as bad faith actors in the
[00:53:49] political scene. And there none of it is
[00:53:52] sincere.
[00:53:54] Comic Nick writes, "I said this last
[00:53:57] week, and I need the world's opinion on
[00:53:59] this, but why wouldn't Charlie Kirk tell
[00:54:01] Erica Kirk that they were going to kill
[00:54:03] him unless he was scared that she was a
[00:54:05] part of it of they?" Oh, unless he was
[00:54:08] scared that she was a part of they. This
[00:54:10] is all I think about when you see her.
[00:54:11] If Trumus is evil, well, to be
[00:54:14] charitable, it could also be in a
[00:54:16] scenario that is maybe more chivalous
[00:54:20] that men don't want their wives to be
[00:54:23] concerned about certain things because
[00:54:24] there have certainly been things that,
[00:54:27] and again, this is a charitable read,
[00:54:28] but that my husband has not told me
[00:54:30] until after. I'm like, "What? Were you
[00:54:32] just keeping that in forever?" Like a
[00:54:34] soldier, we were dealing with this or
[00:54:36] whatever, and he just dealt with it and
[00:54:38] then told me after. So it it could have
[00:54:40] been just giving you another angle on
[00:54:43] that he could have not told her for the
[00:54:46] that reason. I I'm less inclined to
[00:54:48] believe that Andrew Kovat and Dan Flood
[00:54:50] didn't tell her afterward that she had
[00:54:52] to rely on his text messages. That that
[00:54:54] wouldn't be the first thing in the
[00:54:55] investigation that the feds would ask,
[00:54:58] hey, did Charlie have any fears? and
[00:55:00] that they wouldn't inform his next of
[00:55:02] kin of those things, especially Dan
[00:55:04] Flood as she's a chairman and CEO and uh
[00:55:07] therefore presumably actually could just
[00:55:09] take his text messages and read them if
[00:55:10] she wanted to. I Yeah, that is less
[00:55:13] believable than the fact that Charlie
[00:55:14] would maybe not tell her the night
[00:55:16] before. Cesaly writes, "I'm so sorry for
[00:55:18] you to hear this, Candace. My cousin
[00:55:20] passed a week after Charlie and it is
[00:55:21] still so hard for me to say that he has
[00:55:23] gone to talk about it. Can't imagine
[00:55:24] that much joy in my voice again. I'm so
[00:55:26] sorry for you. You loved and grieved
[00:55:28] Charlie so much. I think I felt a bit
[00:55:30] like the employees like what am I doing
[00:55:32] wrong here that I have to go away and
[00:55:34] cry for a long time and I cried on air
[00:55:39] which is I that's never happened before
[00:55:41] and everyone else just kind of seemed
[00:55:44] giddy. That's the only way I can
[00:55:45] describe it. Like giddy when that person
[00:55:47] said they were joyous and giddy at
[00:55:48] Charlie's favorite restaurant which I
[00:55:50] chose not to name. That was how I felt
[00:55:52] listening to the call and I'm just going
[00:55:53] guys this is less than two weeks after
[00:55:56] um that motion that emotion shouldn't be
[00:56:00] possible shouldn't be possible actually
[00:56:04] in my view
[00:56:06] Maria Rits uh hey Jolly Valley girl oh
[00:56:10] sorry pardon her Jolly Valley girl tone
[00:56:12] excited to be discussing business
[00:56:14] numbers and goals is super cringe and
[00:56:16] weird this is beyond grieving
[00:56:17] differently behavior we all have common
[00:56:20] human instinct to sense these things.
[00:56:21] Love you, Candace from Vegas. And that I
[00:56:24] agree with you that they're trying to
[00:56:25] pervert like there is no commonality.
[00:56:28] They're kind of giving us the MoMA. The
[00:56:30] MoMA is modern art where you you go to
[00:56:33] the MoMA museum and there's a toilet
[00:56:36] and it has scribbles all over it. It has
[00:56:39] graffiti on it and they're like, "This
[00:56:41] is art. Art is in the eye of the
[00:56:42] beholder." It's like, "That's not art.
[00:56:44] Doesn't matter how many times you say
[00:56:45] it. That's not art. There is such a
[00:56:47] thing as objective beauty. And that
[00:56:49] ain't it, my friend. to toilet and
[00:56:51] you're just trying to see if you can get
[00:56:52] me there. It feels like we're in the ma
[00:56:56] and they're going, "Everybody grieavves
[00:56:57] differently." Some people grief with
[00:56:59] happiness and laughter because it feels
[00:57:01] good because it comes in waves and it's
[00:57:02] like, "Nope,
[00:57:05] I don't think so." I understand even
[00:57:08] working to get through things. I'm a
[00:57:10] person that has to work to get through
[00:57:11] things. But this is not that
[00:57:14] event even for that to to have to work
[00:57:17] through something, become a workaholic
[00:57:19] because you have to deal with the
[00:57:22] emotion of watching somebody that you
[00:57:25] know and purport to love be publicly
[00:57:29] assassinated. You have to deal with
[00:57:30] that. And I'm going to say that as a
[00:57:34] rule,
[00:57:36] it takes longer than less than two weeks
[00:57:39] to get out of bed to do the thing. I
[00:57:42] don't know. I that's that would be my
[00:57:45] opinion. But what do I know? What do I
[00:57:48] know? Jess Happy writes, "And to think
[00:57:50] that all I thought about on September
[00:57:52] 10th was how empty and terrified Erica
[00:57:54] must feel and how sad I was for those
[00:57:56] babies. How ironic crisis can keep
[00:57:57] going, Candace." That's why I also think
[00:57:59] it was important to share his call
[00:58:01] because we all were there thinking that.
[00:58:04] For those of us who did not immediately
[00:58:06] find her to be suspicious in any way, we
[00:58:09] assumed that that's what she was going
[00:58:11] through. And now that assumption has
[00:58:14] been removed and that's something that
[00:58:18] is a thing that we all now must digest.
[00:58:20] And like I said, there's a lot more
[00:58:22] that's coming out because I think a lot
[00:58:24] of these employees are realizing
[00:58:27] it was a cult and there I mean there's
[00:58:29] almost like a psychological operation
[00:58:30] being run on them. It's like if you need
[00:58:31] to use your pay time off, we'd
[00:58:32] understand. But
[00:58:34] we're the wife is full steam ahead. But
[00:58:36] if you need to take that time off,
[00:58:37] you've earned that time off. You need to
[00:58:39] take that off to grieve someone who's
[00:58:40] like not your husband. That's fine.
[00:58:43] That feels tricky. That feels very
[00:58:45] tricky. Anyway, you guys, we will see
[00:58:49] you tomorrow.
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