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[00:14:21] in the community
[00:14:23] so many people have been so kind and
[00:14:24] amazing to us and we appreciate every
[00:14:26] one of you we'd like to thank unmpd and
[00:14:29] New Mexico State Police for being here
[00:14:30] and for keeping us safe and not only
[00:14:32] today but for putting their lives on the
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[00:14:40] I could not continue without thinking a
[00:14:43] few instrumental people to our chapter
[00:14:44] firstly the TP USA staff for being here
[00:14:47] you all have been there for us this week
[00:14:49] and every other week you've been so
[00:14:52] supportive of our chapter here and
[00:14:53] helped us grow into what we are today
[00:14:54] and we couldn't do it without you and
[00:14:56] most of all thank you to Turning Point
[00:14:58] USA for supporting our chapter and
[00:15:00] giving us the resources and training to
[00:15:01] pull off an event of all sizes
[00:15:04] if you're interested in starting a
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[00:15:11] or visit tpusa.com get involved we would
[00:15:14] love to help you get plugged in finally
[00:15:16] we encourage you all to attend America
[00:15:18] Fest the this December in Phoenix
[00:15:21] Arizona this is the biggest conservative
[00:15:23] event and you won't want to miss it
[00:15:24] thank you all for joining us we'll get
[00:15:26] started in a moment
[00:15:39] we are here to celebrate the greatest
[00:15:42] nation ever to exist in the history of
[00:15:44] the world you as a human being have
[00:15:46] dignity that you will write to speech
[00:15:49] that you have a right to organize that
[00:15:51] you have a right to start a family they
[00:15:53] are the Invaders we are Americans and we
[00:15:56] are going to win
[00:16:00] through the stage Lee Kirk
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[00:16:16] the running but look I've been here I've
[00:16:18] done it impossible please
[00:16:22] okay
[00:16:26] we are here to celebrate the greatest
[00:16:30] nation ever to exist in the history of
[00:16:32] the world do you as a human being have
[00:16:34] dignity that you have a right to speech
[00:16:36] that you have a right to organize that
[00:16:38] you have a right to start a family they
[00:16:40] are the Invaders we are Americans and we
[00:16:44] are going to win
[00:16:47] now welcome me to the stage Charlie Kirk
[00:16:57] thank you everybody thank you well we
[00:17:00] did it I want to just uh geez we just
[00:17:02] said hello out there that was
[00:17:03] interesting uh thank you guys for for
[00:17:05] being here tonight and um my goodness I
[00:17:08] want to thank our Turning Point USA
[00:17:09] chapter here give it up for them I mean
[00:17:11] to have to endure all that and go
[00:17:13] through it it's uh it's really special
[00:17:14] so
[00:17:16] it really it really tell it answers the
[00:17:19] question you know someone asked me the
[00:17:20] other day they said Charlie how do you
[00:17:21] know if you're on the right side or the
[00:17:23] wrong side
[00:17:24] and I mean you could just see outside I
[00:17:26] mean it's pretty self-evident right not
[00:17:28] exactly happy people and if you have to
[00:17:31] spend your evenings trying to prevent
[00:17:32] other people from going to an optional
[00:17:34] event on a college campus you're
[00:17:37] probably not on the right side of
[00:17:38] history in fact you're probably so
[00:17:40] incredibly fragile about your own
[00:17:42] beliefs your own life that you try to
[00:17:44] use Force to try to shut up the other
[00:17:46] side and by the way give it up for the
[00:17:48] police they're doing a very good job out
[00:17:49] there they really are
[00:17:51] and that's a that's a that's a difficult
[00:17:53] position that they're in and it's not
[00:17:55] not easy at all so I could talk for a
[00:17:58] little bit here I do want to take some
[00:17:59] questions but one of the main reason
[00:18:01] we're here uh so close to Christmas
[00:18:03] break is I think it's very important
[00:18:06] that we draw a line in the sand and do
[00:18:09] not allow the bad guys to shut us up I
[00:18:11] think it's a very important thing and
[00:18:13] free speech is fundamental to a free
[00:18:15] society and we had two other events this
[00:18:18] semester both of which were canceled and
[00:18:21] I I looked at it from afar and I said
[00:18:23] if I have anything to say about it we're
[00:18:25] not going to put up with that at Turning
[00:18:26] Point USA no matter what it takes that
[00:18:28] if you are going to use force and mass
[00:18:31] tactics and all that nonsense to try to
[00:18:33] say that we're going to intimidate you
[00:18:35] and we're going to try to prevent you
[00:18:37] from organizing then we're only going to
[00:18:38] want to do that even more and let that
[00:18:40] be a lesson let it be a lesson that you
[00:18:42] cannot allow bullies to win and look I
[00:18:44] mean we're in New Mexico I I it's a Land
[00:18:47] of Enchantment which I always find to be
[00:18:48] very interesting uh and fitting by the
[00:18:51] way very fitting uh happy to talk about
[00:18:53] that as well I understand conservatives
[00:18:56] are outnumbered fine okay we can have a
[00:18:58] conversation about that but that doesn't
[00:19:00] mean you should allow the bad guys to
[00:19:02] win at all and this event tonight shows
[00:19:04] the bad guys that we're going to keep on
[00:19:06] organizing that you might you know
[00:19:08] prevent people from walking into an
[00:19:09] event and you might smear or slander or
[00:19:11] docs or say horrible names who's Eric or
[00:19:14] Erica by the way who you are a very
[00:19:16] special person I have to tell you
[00:19:18] they're chanting terrible things about
[00:19:19] you and I think you're great I really do
[00:19:23] I
[00:19:24] we met at the church by the way I
[00:19:26] remember that and I said I like the name
[00:19:28] Erica and the bad guys get weaker when
[00:19:32] we don't give up
[00:19:34] remember that and you look free speech
[00:19:37] is messy at times free speech is
[00:19:40] necessary though because there's only
[00:19:41] two ways that human beings can govern
[00:19:43] themselves through speech or Force so
[00:19:46] you can have a society designed around
[00:19:47] having reasonable disagreement which I
[00:19:49] hope we have tonight and we'll invite
[00:19:51] that or you can have a society like that
[00:19:53] where
[00:19:55] the louder Voice or the person who's
[00:19:58] willing to use Force wins and honestly I
[00:20:00] want you to think about this how is it
[00:20:02] any different than what those people
[00:20:04] want to have happen thankfully they
[00:20:05] didn't win and what's going on in
[00:20:07] communist China right now it's exactly
[00:20:09] the same thing we don't like your
[00:20:10] opinion so we're going to try to use
[00:20:12] Force to shut you up
[00:20:13] and thankfully we still have some
[00:20:15] semblance of a First Amendment here I
[00:20:16] also want to thank University of New
[00:20:18] Mexico I'm sure I gave them a headache
[00:20:19] by showing up here and so thank you for
[00:20:21] allowing us on campus I mean I mean that
[00:20:24] but and I want to just make this very
[00:20:27] clear the reason I'm here is for a
[00:20:28] principled reason which is if you lose
[00:20:30] speech you lose your entire civilization
[00:20:32] period it's the only thing that
[00:20:34] separates us from the beasts and you
[00:20:37] could totally disagree with everything
[00:20:38] that I have to say and you might think
[00:20:39] whatever one liner you want to think but
[00:20:42] to want to use Force to shut that person
[00:20:44] up is a very dangerous road to get on so
[00:20:47] I had a whole speech prepared I don't
[00:20:48] have to give it I was going to talk
[00:20:50] about why secularism sucks
[00:20:52] um which is a whole yeah I I could give
[00:20:54] that speech if you want one of the
[00:20:56] reasons and by the way I'm not here to
[00:20:57] you know overly religionize the
[00:20:59] conversation but we could we can have a
[00:21:02] conversation about that however my
[00:21:04] goodness look at the fruit of secularism
[00:21:05] people start to make up all these fake
[00:21:07] and weird religions to replace a
[00:21:10] judeo-christian worldview how many
[00:21:12] people out there do you think are
[00:21:13] religious very few I would imagine how
[00:21:17] many people out there that are screaming
[00:21:19] the worst things you could scream and
[00:21:21] trying to dox other people how many of
[00:21:23] them do you think attend a religious
[00:21:24] service on a regular basis I would just
[00:21:26] probably imagine because this is their
[00:21:28] this is their religious ceremony is to
[00:21:30] go out and think that they're fighting
[00:21:32] what they call white supremacy which
[00:21:34] they can never Define and they can never
[00:21:36] articulate and to them it gives them
[00:21:39] meaning
[00:21:40] and Victor Frankel wrote a wonderful
[00:21:43] book book Man's Search for meaning it's
[00:21:45] a great it's a game changer of a book
[00:21:46] it's a life-changing book it really is
[00:21:48] where he was a holocaust Survivor and he
[00:21:50] went through the process of trying to
[00:21:52] ask the question what is life all about
[00:21:53] and he came to a conclusion that life is
[00:21:56] beautiful and there is good in the world
[00:21:57] and it's worth protecting in prison
[00:21:59] there's a holocaust Survivor right this
[00:22:00] is a guy that has every reason to give
[00:22:02] up and believe that life is nothing but
[00:22:05] a tragedy and he did however argue many
[00:22:08] times that be very afraid
[00:22:11] of what can replace a belief in God a GK
[00:22:15] Chesterton who's one of the great
[00:22:16] authors of the 20th century he said when
[00:22:19] people stop believing in God they don't
[00:22:21] believe in nothing
[00:22:22] they'll believe in anything
[00:22:24] and that's much more of a threat to
[00:22:26] society than nothing
[00:22:29] and the people outside don't believe in
[00:22:30] anything they'll just get a sign they
[00:22:32] start screaming might make them feel
[00:22:33] good it might be therapeutic and
[00:22:35] cathartic I wish I could have a
[00:22:37] conversation with some of them instead
[00:22:38] of them screaming at the top of their
[00:22:39] lungs that's fine but a society that is
[00:22:43] well that is based in things that are
[00:22:47] eternally beautiful starting a family
[00:22:48] having a relationship believing in the
[00:22:51] Divine understanding the good the true
[00:22:53] and the Beautiful probably doesn't act
[00:22:55] like that
[00:22:56] and honestly I looked at them tonight I
[00:22:58] mean this With all sincerity those
[00:23:00] people are hurting they are that you are
[00:23:03] a very miserable person to do that and I
[00:23:05] can make fun of it and that's and we
[00:23:06] probably should in some sense but in
[00:23:08] another sense it's actually a more
[00:23:09] fundamental level you say you know what
[00:23:11] they have a very big void to fill I
[00:23:14] think God could only fill that void by
[00:23:15] the way I really believe that and you
[00:23:18] might you might see it differently and
[00:23:19] we can have a discourse or dialogue
[00:23:21] about that but in society the outgrowths
[00:23:24] of hyper secularism gets you into a
[00:23:27] place where where all of a sudden man is
[00:23:31] searching for meaning in places they
[00:23:32] shouldn't be protesting someone because
[00:23:34] they want to talk about free speech on
[00:23:36] campus
[00:23:37] like let's let's let's maybe encourage
[00:23:39] them to go find a significant other get
[00:23:41] in a relationship maybe believe in God
[00:23:43] go to church get a job any job and wake
[00:23:46] up probably before noon that would
[00:23:48] probably get your life some meaning no
[00:23:50] seriously not just acting as if you are
[00:23:53] on some sort of individual Pioneer
[00:23:55] crusade to extinguish extinguish the
[00:23:57] world of evil you see many of them will
[00:23:59] go home tonight and they'll feel good
[00:24:01] for a short period of time because they
[00:24:03] think they're fighting evil
[00:24:04] that's what's so fascinating is that if
[00:24:06] you sat down every single one of those
[00:24:08] you know protesters the same thing that
[00:24:10] happened to the Tomi lahren event and
[00:24:11] the pro-life event and they think
[00:24:13] they're doing good
[00:24:15] and that's why intentions mean nothing
[00:24:17] you know it matters what you do because
[00:24:20] every single one of them think they're
[00:24:21] on some sort of wonderful Crusade that
[00:24:23] history will judge them nicely here's
[00:24:25] Just A good rule for life if you're
[00:24:27] trying to shut somebody up you're
[00:24:28] probably not on the right side of
[00:24:30] History just usually
[00:24:31] typically in fact come prove the person
[00:24:34] wrong which is what's hilarious is
[00:24:36] because we give the mic to the people to
[00:24:38] disagree with us at events like this no
[00:24:40] no see that's that right there would
[00:24:42] only be in their opinion justifying the
[00:24:45] white supremacy you see and I hate to
[00:24:47] overly generalize or but many of the
[00:24:49] people outside they have a belief that
[00:24:52] speech dialogue through reason
[00:24:55] only perpetuates a white supremacist
[00:24:57] westo heteronormative fallow
[00:25:00] logo-centric construct
[00:25:02] basically they believe that speech is
[00:25:05] one of the reasons why we're in this
[00:25:06] mess
[00:25:07] now that's the opposite speech is
[00:25:09] actually the reason why we're not
[00:25:10] tearing each other apart
[00:25:12] you want to go live in communist China
[00:25:14] go look what it is right now that's what
[00:25:16] happens when you don't have speech it's
[00:25:17] not an exaggeration it's a very real
[00:25:19] thing there will be tens of thousands of
[00:25:21] people sent to the equivalent of gulags
[00:25:24] look at Iran
[00:25:25] which by the way very pleased we beat
[00:25:27] them in soccer it's a very good thing
[00:25:28] and by the way it's soccer not football
[00:25:31] okay
[00:25:33] a young lady was basically was sent to a
[00:25:36] prison and was Beat to Death because she
[00:25:37] wasn't wearing the hijab correctly now
[00:25:39] that's I will fully acknowledge that is
[00:25:41] religious extremism but do you ever hear
[00:25:43] about secular extremism
[00:25:45] we only act as if the religious could be
[00:25:47] extreme of course the religious could be
[00:25:48] extreme the secular can also be very
[00:25:50] extreme in fact we're living through the
[00:25:53] greatest threat to our Liberty is
[00:25:54] secular extremism not religious
[00:25:56] extremism they want to tell you well
[00:25:58] it's Christian nationalism they can
[00:25:59] never Define it you know what actually
[00:26:00] fear people should fear a lot more than
[00:26:02] that very empty people that own nothing
[00:26:04] and that are not married they're a very
[00:26:06] big threat to our civilization and I
[00:26:08] hope that they will find something that
[00:26:10] will anchor them in goodness and truth
[00:26:11] and beauty and only speech can do that
[00:26:13] so we are the speaking beings as
[00:26:15] Aristotle would say
[00:26:16] and the speaking beings means we can
[00:26:19] reason it means that we are able to
[00:26:21] communicate as I said say have dialogue
[00:26:23] I believe that the Bible answers the
[00:26:25] question perfectly that we're made in
[00:26:27] the image of God and God spoke things
[00:26:29] into existence speech is our ability to
[00:26:32] bring nothing into something as the
[00:26:33] Bible would say x and Hilo to create
[00:26:35] something new
[00:26:37] when you do not have speech in a society
[00:26:39] of which we live in which is very
[00:26:41] diverse and religiously linguistically
[00:26:44] and culturally
[00:26:46] the country starts to fall apart that's
[00:26:49] it it's a binary Choice very few things
[00:26:50] in life by the way are binary you can
[00:26:53] either be governed by force or by speech
[00:26:55] the founding fathers made a decision to
[00:26:57] build a country built on speech and that
[00:27:00] means you might have to hear something
[00:27:01] you don't like but you know what's so
[00:27:02] hilarious about what we're doing tonight
[00:27:03] is that it's optional
[00:27:06] it's voluntary
[00:27:08] no one was forced to be here except to
[00:27:10] Turning Point staff and they did a great
[00:27:12] job by the way thank you you are forced
[00:27:13] to be here that's right
[00:27:15] but if you don't like it then don't show
[00:27:17] up
[00:27:18] and you want to know why no turning
[00:27:19] point USA is making a very big
[00:27:21] difference why I know Turning Point USA
[00:27:22] is moving the dial why no turning point
[00:27:24] USA is a big threat to the left
[00:27:26] because why would an hour and 10 minute
[00:27:28] lecture warrant a 150 person protest if
[00:27:33] what we had to say wasn't resonating
[00:27:35] that's how I know what we're doing is
[00:27:37] working
[00:27:38] well what I know what we are doing is
[00:27:39] working what all of you in our chapter
[00:27:41] are doing and all of our high school
[00:27:42] chapters and everyone involved in
[00:27:44] Turning Point USA is making a difference
[00:27:46] because you don't have that many people
[00:27:48] mobilize if all of a sudden what our
[00:27:50] ideas are somehow a threat to
[00:27:52] authoritarianism and tyranny so I could
[00:27:54] keep talking about that I have other
[00:27:56] reasons why secularism is a very big
[00:27:58] issue in our country I'm not here to
[00:28:00] profess anything specific I'm a
[00:28:02] Christian happy to talk about that
[00:28:03] highly recommended it's great it's
[00:28:05] life-changing um and also you got
[00:28:07] eternal life out of it so it's actually
[00:28:08] a pretty good deal
[00:28:09] um however you could believe it everyone
[00:28:11] will believe we could talk about all of
[00:28:12] that but most importantly I want to
[00:28:14] thank you for being here tonight those
[00:28:15] of you that got spit on and harassed and
[00:28:17] doxed it takes courage and I never
[00:28:19] thought I'd have to say that I hope
[00:28:21] everyone watching online recognize and
[00:28:23] understand that what I just did is I
[00:28:25] just complimented attendees of an event
[00:28:28] for showing up
[00:28:31] think about that
[00:28:33] I'm complimenting you for your courage
[00:28:34] which by the way is very warranted what
[00:28:36] you just had to go through about 50
[00:28:37] people turned away and walked away I
[00:28:38] don't want to deal with this
[00:28:40] things have got to change and how do you
[00:28:41] change them
[00:28:42] you don't fold and you have more events
[00:28:44] like this and let it be known to those
[00:28:46] people out there that I hope that they
[00:28:48] they have some sort of uh Revival in
[00:28:50] their life they lost tonight
[00:28:52] and that's a big deal all right let's do
[00:28:54] some questions guys thank you and Lynn
[00:28:56] Richard you want to line up and the way
[00:28:58] it works is question not a speech if you
[00:29:01] uh disagree you go to the front of the
[00:29:03] line and we love disagreement in fact
[00:29:06] that's what this event is all about we
[00:29:08] invite it and um also if uh if you find
[00:29:12] a question objectionable or if you find
[00:29:14] a question disagreeable please do not
[00:29:16] mock interrupt or Boo the person you're
[00:29:19] talking to it is very important that
[00:29:22] different ideas are given a platform
[00:29:23] especially at conservative events and
[00:29:26] then we can have a dialogue and a
[00:29:27] discussion from there and if you
[00:29:29] disagree go to the line and we'll go
[00:29:31] from there and I'll stay till they kick
[00:29:32] me off okay we'll start with the first
[00:29:34] question
[00:29:34] okay I remember you from Steve
[00:29:36] smotherman's Church yes sir yes sir I'm
[00:29:38] back again
[00:29:39] so um in your opinion what's the first
[00:29:42] step to improve crime and homelessness
[00:29:44] in Albuquerque
[00:29:46] uh crime is uh not we don't have to
[00:29:49] overthink that uh you have to arrest
[00:29:51] more bad guys and keep them in jail
[00:29:53] longer I don't think that has to be
[00:29:55] overly you know considered I hate to say
[00:29:57] it but this is no longer a safe City
[00:30:00] I've been coming I've been coming to New
[00:30:02] Mexico for at least the last seven or
[00:30:05] eight years I love this place there's
[00:30:07] some phenomenal people here notice I say
[00:30:09] some not everyone here is phenomenal I'm
[00:30:10] sorry it's just the way it is every
[00:30:12] state has good people I think I have to
[00:30:15] say
[00:30:15] the fighters in New Mexico give me a lot
[00:30:18] of Hope
[00:30:19] the chapters the people is what you guys
[00:30:22] do is incredible so you so but New
[00:30:25] Mexico and Albuquerque become a Prof
[00:30:27] it's become a profoundly dangerous city
[00:30:28] and the statistics show that and just
[00:30:30] being I mean I I talked to last time I
[00:30:33] was here a couple weeks ago I spoke at
[00:30:35] Steve smotherman's church I just started
[00:30:36] asking questions I said do you feel safe
[00:30:38] in your own City
[00:30:39] and when people say no I don't you've
[00:30:42] got a very serious problem and I don't
[00:30:45] know what the breaking point of that is
[00:30:46] going to be obviously there you know
[00:30:48] needs to be I think some political
[00:30:49] changes there that didn't happen so
[00:30:53] um the best way to protect yourself is
[00:30:54] have a firearm on you at all times when
[00:30:57] you are in Albuquerque I wish I didn't
[00:30:58] have to say that but that's true and
[00:31:00] then finally I hope that at some point a
[00:31:02] return to sanity is restored and the bad
[00:31:06] guys could be locked up for longer
[00:31:07] because on you know this is this you
[00:31:09] start to see this
[00:31:11] crime hurts all people but it's going to
[00:31:14] hurt working class lower middle class
[00:31:15] people the most is they don't have
[00:31:17] access to bodyguards or gated
[00:31:19] communities as much and so it will end
[00:31:22] up safety will end up becoming a luxury
[00:31:24] of the elite which is exactly where
[00:31:26] they're leading us to that's where how
[00:31:28] Brazil is that's how a lot of these
[00:31:29] third world countries are so as far as
[00:31:31] homelessness has to be done with
[00:31:33] compassion and Justice mixed together I
[00:31:36] do not believe the street is your home
[00:31:37] period uh I believe that you should be
[00:31:39] brought to a shelter with a meal with
[00:31:41] compassion but you should not be able to
[00:31:43] just post up on the side of the street
[00:31:45] which is unsanitary it's bad for the
[00:31:47] person it's bad for everybody it becomes
[00:31:49] a place especially for homeless women
[00:31:51] where they get raped regularly it should
[00:31:53] be tolerated or allowed open air
[00:31:55] vagrancy I believe is depressing the
[00:31:57] non-homeless person all of us and it's
[00:31:59] also it's it's an insult to actually the
[00:32:01] homeless person I think they could do
[00:32:02] better than that and I don't think that
[00:32:04] we should all of a sudden platform in my
[00:32:06] opinion the incredible increase in
[00:32:08] people that are truly suffering and say
[00:32:10] well you know the street is their home I
[00:32:11] I I reject the premise I think it's bad
[00:32:14] for everybody involved thanks for your
[00:32:15] question appreciate it thank you again
[00:32:16] thanks
[00:32:20] alrighty um so I don't know if you know
[00:32:22] probably do but New Mexico is the late
[00:32:25] term abortion capital of the country and
[00:32:27] I believe of the world
[00:32:28] um and our governor has been promoting
[00:32:30] it and funding it and we've had so many
[00:32:33] abortion clinics just come into the
[00:32:34] state and move to the state over the
[00:32:36] past uh just a couple months
[00:32:39] um so I was just curious what you would
[00:32:40] say is the most effective combat
[00:32:42] abortion and our government our governor
[00:32:44] in that yeah I mean in New Mexico it's
[00:32:46] tough I mean abortion should be outlawed
[00:32:49] but that's a separate issue that's not
[00:32:50] going to happen here the opposite is
[00:32:51] happening here unfortunately
[00:32:53] I believe there's a spiritual component
[00:32:55] to this I mean it's how you could
[00:32:57] butcher a late term baby is just beyond
[00:33:00] me it's just unbelievable so look you
[00:33:03] got to get involved in the space of
[00:33:04] convincing people that there are
[00:33:06] resources available supporting the
[00:33:07] Pregnancy Crisis centers uh letting them
[00:33:09] know that um that they are loved and
[00:33:11] that that is a human being and
[00:33:13] unfortunately Albuquerque is now
[00:33:15] becoming kind of a destination point for
[00:33:17] abortion tourism across the country
[00:33:20] where people come here just to be able
[00:33:21] to have abortions life begins at
[00:33:23] conception uh life is something that
[00:33:26] human life is worthy of preservation and
[00:33:28] protection no matter how big you are and
[00:33:30] no matter where you are so it doesn't
[00:33:32] matter if you're in the womb or outside
[00:33:33] of the womb human life is needs to be
[00:33:35] protected it's a long fight here in
[00:33:37] Albuquerque but
[00:33:39] um I really want to commend the churches
[00:33:40] and the non-profits that are working
[00:33:42] very hard in this and we have to try to
[00:33:44] contest and fight for a culture of life
[00:33:46] we really do
[00:33:48] um and I mean how it ever got to be this
[00:33:50] way I don't know because there's so many
[00:33:52] great people here in New Mexico uh and
[00:33:54] it's just so at least in my personal
[00:33:56] opinion in my experience so wildly
[00:33:59] misrepresentative of the average person
[00:34:01] in this beautiful state but so be it and
[00:34:04] you got to fight it and you have to try
[00:34:06] to expose it
[00:34:07] Psalm 97 10 has a beautiful thing it
[00:34:09] says if you love God you must hate evil
[00:34:11] and there's a lot of evil to hate in New
[00:34:13] Mexico I gotta tell you and the it being
[00:34:16] the late term abortion capital of
[00:34:18] America if not the world I mean the
[00:34:19] abortion policies here in New Mexico are
[00:34:22] more extreme than almost all of Western
[00:34:24] Europe it's more extreme than almost
[00:34:26] every country it's one of the worst on
[00:34:28] the planet
[00:34:28] you got to keep fighting it God bless
[00:34:30] you thank you
[00:34:32] [Applause]
[00:34:35] so I just had a question regarding the
[00:34:39] general term of racism why is it
[00:34:41] marginal to bully people more
[00:34:44] implicative not of their behaviors or
[00:34:46] anything but more to be informally
[00:34:49] intolerant of whatever they have to say
[00:34:53] yeah so that's a good question so
[00:34:55] unfortunately when we talk about racism
[00:34:58] the left is talking about something
[00:34:59] completely different so they basically
[00:35:02] want to strip you of your identity as an
[00:35:05] individual it's one of the big goals of
[00:35:07] the collectivist left I keep talking
[00:35:10] about China because it's in the news but
[00:35:11] the Chinese Communist Party completely
[00:35:13] agrees with this no individual therefore
[00:35:16] no individual rights no right to speech
[00:35:17] no right to privacy you're a member of a
[00:35:19] collective right now there is some truth
[00:35:21] that remember to groups right we're a
[00:35:23] member of a country but we're first
[00:35:24] individuals and this country recognize
[00:35:26] that first and foremost so if I were to
[00:35:29] venture a guest when you and I talk
[00:35:30] about racism we talk about XYZ person
[00:35:32] being racist you know another person
[00:35:33] that's wrong that's terrible when the
[00:35:35] left talks about racism they're talking
[00:35:37] about power
[00:35:39] they're saying the group of white people
[00:35:41] by their existence by their structures
[00:35:44] by their success is being is exploiting
[00:35:48] another group just because they exist
[00:35:51] and they do not want to look at people
[00:35:53] as individuals they want to collectivize
[00:35:56] the entire Society needless to say this
[00:35:59] is wrong it's immoral it's evil
[00:36:02] and the byproduct of it is an incredibly
[00:36:07] let's say dangerous Society to live in
[00:36:10] where if you tell a young person you're
[00:36:12] nothing more than a member of a group
[00:36:14] not an individual you're creating an
[00:36:16] actual racist society which is exactly
[00:36:18] where they're leading us and it's so
[00:36:20] disempowering isn't it if you tell a
[00:36:22] person on both ways you're white and
[00:36:24] you're evil just because the color of
[00:36:26] your skin and then you tell a black
[00:36:28] person you're oppressed just because of
[00:36:29] the color of your skin what you've just
[00:36:31] done is told somebody that they have
[00:36:32] irredeemable sin and you told the other
[00:36:34] person that they have a mountain that
[00:36:36] they can never climb
[00:36:38] that's disempowering for both people
[00:36:41] what you have done is you have created
[00:36:43] basically a you are guilty and you can
[00:36:46] never become clean
[00:36:48] which is like the the new ways like you
[00:36:50] will you will be racist for the rest of
[00:36:52] time and you must continually atone for
[00:36:54] it and you're never going to reach it
[00:36:56] despite the premise itself being
[00:36:57] completely and totally flawed and so
[00:36:59] look the constant incantation of
[00:37:02] everything being racist has a strategy
[00:37:04] critical race Theory best summarized is
[00:37:06] call everything racist until I control
[00:37:09] it
[00:37:10] that's what CRT is thank you for being
[00:37:12] here tonight I appreciate it thanks
[00:37:15] and if you disagree feel free to cut in
[00:37:17] line guys
[00:37:18] hey there Charlie uh I just want to
[00:37:21] focus this by I I don't consider myself
[00:37:25] conservative nor liberal I don't like
[00:37:27] those terms I think that they're silly
[00:37:28] they're stupid and it causes for more
[00:37:30] division in our country that being said
[00:37:33] how would you combat the division that's
[00:37:36] happening in our country I mean it's
[00:37:37] extreme I mean it's insane uh and and I
[00:37:41] I think that there's something that we
[00:37:44] need to do besides just liberal and and
[00:37:48] conservative you know that's
[00:37:50] that's way too that's is it just splits
[00:37:53] it in two
[00:37:54] okay yeah I mean I think that the
[00:37:57] country is divided not necessarily
[00:37:59] through liberal and conservative more
[00:38:02] through the decent and the indecent
[00:38:04] right now at least and I think you would
[00:38:06] agree
[00:38:07] it wouldn't be a characteristic for
[00:38:09] conservatives to act like the people
[00:38:11] outside right so
[00:38:14] and there's there's difference between
[00:38:15] liberals and leftists I think you could
[00:38:17] probably agree right I think that's
[00:38:18] probably fair look I think part of how
[00:38:21] you bridge The Divide is what we try to
[00:38:23] do at Turning Point USA I am 100
[00:38:25] conservative and I own it
[00:38:28] but if you disagree tell me why and
[00:38:30] maybe we're going to hate each other
[00:38:31] less afterwards right and I think that's
[00:38:34] actually I Believe speech heals a lot of
[00:38:36] sins I really do
[00:38:38] and I think what you saw outside that's
[00:38:41] going to get you closer to conflict than
[00:38:43] anything else screaming at people having
[00:38:45] awfully you know expletive field signs
[00:38:47] preventing people from entering they
[00:38:50] always say you know oh yeah the country
[00:38:51] is divided yes I mean I think we're
[00:38:53] divided on certain issues
[00:38:57] however I actually think the vast
[00:38:59] majority of Americans find what happened
[00:39:01] out there despicable I really do I think
[00:39:03] that most Americans don't think that is
[00:39:05] acceptable and okay we have to talk to
[00:39:07] each other more I think you would agree
[00:39:09] with that right
[00:39:11] no I actually I really appreciate that
[00:39:13] you said that uh most people wouldn't
[00:39:16] agree with with what's happening out
[00:39:18] there I mean even a lot of the liberal
[00:39:20] people I talk to they would 100 agree
[00:39:23] that that is outrageous it is silly and
[00:39:26] goofy in all its ways
[00:39:28] um I think it's best to look at people
[00:39:30] in a more positive light and and not let
[00:39:33] the negativity be
[00:39:36] the the biggest factor of of our dislike
[00:39:40] towards a group of people that's just
[00:39:42] silly so yeah and you could have
[00:39:43] negativity but then it's also how do you
[00:39:46] handle it right so there's thoughts and
[00:39:48] actions you could have horrible thoughts
[00:39:50] about somebody but then how are you
[00:39:51] going to handle it how about show up to
[00:39:53] the event like an adult spit through
[00:39:54] what somebody has to say and then ask a
[00:39:56] question yeah yeah right that you could
[00:39:58] have the thoughts but then act like it's
[00:40:01] someone who actually wants to be part of
[00:40:02] a society not the Lord of the Flies
[00:40:04] thanks for being here tonight I
[00:40:06] appreciate it appreciate your time
[00:40:08] foreign
[00:40:12] to be a Christian correct
[00:40:15] I am a Christian yes
[00:40:17] I am as well so I just want to know as a
[00:40:20] conservative in a very political setting
[00:40:23] as someone who's very very open about
[00:40:26] your politics obviously that's why
[00:40:27] you're here I would like to know how you
[00:40:30] balance
[00:40:31] allowing the Bible and your religion and
[00:40:34] what you believe influence your
[00:40:36] political beliefs instead of your
[00:40:39] political beliefs influencing your
[00:40:40] religion because I as a Christian see a
[00:40:43] lot of my Christians friends do this and
[00:40:45] they are hyper Republican and
[00:40:47] hyper-conservative before they are
[00:40:48] Christians instead of Christians before
[00:40:50] they are political okay
[00:40:52] that's a fair question I think it's okay
[00:40:54] either way but my Christianity comes
[00:40:56] first and I'll tell you why it's okay
[00:40:58] either way because if you are a true
[00:41:00] concern if you are a true Christian then
[00:41:03] you are going to have a conservative
[00:41:04] disposition for example you're going to
[00:41:06] want to protect children from suffering
[00:41:08] you're going to want to protect the
[00:41:10] institution of marriage you're going to
[00:41:12] want to protect distinctions which is a
[00:41:14] religious Christian belief for example
[00:41:16] the Bible one of the main themes of the
[00:41:18] Bible especially the Old Testament is
[00:41:20] distinctions right man and woman good
[00:41:23] and evil right and wrong and the modern
[00:41:26] leftist movement is trying to destroy
[00:41:28] distinctions in a lot of different ways
[00:41:29] but my Christianity is the basis of my
[00:41:31] belief so for example as a Christian I
[00:41:34] believe that people are not inherently
[00:41:35] good
[00:41:36] therefore I think we should organize
[00:41:38] government appropriately
[00:41:40] meaning since people are not good you
[00:41:42] better make it really hard to get power
[00:41:44] founding fathers agree with me by the
[00:41:46] way okay I also believe that there is a
[00:41:48] God and I am not him
[00:41:51] yeah sorry please interview follow-up
[00:41:53] question with that I am a Christian and
[00:41:54] I 100
[00:41:58] fear God
[00:42:00] yeah yeah of course I do yes what is is
[00:42:03] that not
[00:42:04] clear no no I'm curious I mean I I do
[00:42:08] fear God I also love God too yeah
[00:42:10] um but yes the fear of God is the
[00:42:12] beginning of wisdom as it says multiple
[00:42:14] times in the scriptures but yes I do and
[00:42:17] I also believe that that when you lie
[00:42:21] you cheat you steal or you're in
[00:42:22] defiance of the The Ten Commandments you
[00:42:25] know you're actively rebelling against a
[00:42:26] God who loves you thank goodness we have
[00:42:29] Jesus because I can't keep up with all
[00:42:31] the rules
[00:42:32] 100 agree right just curious because I
[00:42:35] know that a lot of
[00:42:36] um politicians that claim to be
[00:42:39] Christians and obviously the the fruit
[00:42:41] is in your life there's evidence that
[00:42:43] you are truly a Christian and that you
[00:42:45] fear God when asked that question a lot
[00:42:47] of them back down and they go oh I don't
[00:42:49] know
[00:42:51] so I hope my actions throughout the
[00:42:52] course of my career show that more than
[00:42:54] my words because the words are cheap
[00:42:56] actions are earned thank you for being
[00:42:57] here tonight God bless you thank you
[00:43:04] hi Cara hi Charlie not a congressman
[00:43:08] okay I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding
[00:43:10] keep going there will always be a
[00:43:12] portion of the population that won't
[00:43:13] believe in God and you claim that number
[00:43:15] is growing how do you reach out to them
[00:43:17] without using religious messaging it's a
[00:43:19] good question and yes that number is
[00:43:21] growing I think you would it's just a
[00:43:22] fact right so you it's okay not to
[00:43:26] believe in God in a political context
[00:43:28] but you have to acknowledge the
[00:43:32] consequences of what happens when a
[00:43:34] society doesn't believe in God I think
[00:43:36] that's a very important thing that if
[00:43:38] you remove God from the equation and Sam
[00:43:41] Harris did his best but I think failed
[00:43:44] and fell short in my opinion to address
[00:43:46] this in his book The moral landscape
[00:43:48] exquisitely written but still I think
[00:43:50] the argument comes short is right and
[00:43:53] wrong becomes merely an opinion if you
[00:43:55] remove God
[00:43:56] that's a fact
[00:43:57] it there there is no other way that you
[00:44:00] can get to objective morality if you
[00:44:03] remove a belief in God okay however if
[00:44:06] someone is an atheist or you're secular
[00:44:08] or you're agnostic and you're here
[00:44:09] tonight welcome I mean that I'm glad
[00:44:11] you're here
[00:44:13] you could still start
[00:44:16] you could still believe in the fruits of
[00:44:18] the natural law
[00:44:20] so for example you could be secular and
[00:44:23] still believe that children and their
[00:44:25] innocence should be protected okay great
[00:44:28] that means that you believe in a natural
[00:44:29] law we're saying the same thing I
[00:44:31] believe there's a natural law giver and
[00:44:33] a designer of that natural law didn't
[00:44:34] just kind of fall randomly into the sky
[00:44:37] however if you and I say this a lot for
[00:44:40] example one of my very
[00:44:42] um special friends is Dr James Lindsay
[00:44:45] who's a secular agnostic he's
[00:44:47] spectacular I think he's done more good
[00:44:50] for Liberty than most Christians have
[00:44:51] the last couple years
[00:44:53] because he fights against CRT fights for
[00:44:56] a religious liberty and fights for
[00:44:58] individual agency against this kind of
[00:45:01] wokism mob stuff God bless him the last
[00:45:04] one I said God bless him right so I'm
[00:45:06] happy to partner a line work with people
[00:45:09] that are non-religious however I will
[00:45:12] not waver from where does that morality
[00:45:15] come from I mean it does come from a
[00:45:17] belief in a higher power in fact our
[00:45:18] entire civilization is an outgrowth of
[00:45:20] that do you have a follow-up thought no
[00:45:21] that's all right thanks for the internet
[00:45:24] [Applause]
[00:45:27] well I'm I'm sorry to bring this up but
[00:45:31] you know I'm part of patchy I'm part
[00:45:33] Mexican and you know I've been thinking
[00:45:35] shouldn't America White America
[00:45:37] acknowledge
[00:45:39] I guess some of the wrongs that the
[00:45:41] white colonists have imposed on
[00:45:43] native tribes and if so how can we
[00:45:46] correct that
[00:45:49] okay
[00:45:50] um I think that's probably been done
[00:45:52] right correct me if I'm wrong is there
[00:45:54] not a federal bureau of they call Indian
[00:45:57] Affairs but Native American Affairs
[00:45:59] right they do a very poor job at what
[00:46:01] they're doing I agree with that I mean
[00:46:03] anything government touches is awful but
[00:46:04] the whole premise the premise of the of
[00:46:07] the of the program was
[00:46:10] quasi-apologetic reparations wasn't it
[00:46:12] now what I will say though is
[00:46:16] the question I'll take a little bit of
[00:46:18] an objection to let me tell you why I'm
[00:46:21] white
[00:46:22] and I don't owe anybody an apology for
[00:46:24] something I did not individually do
[00:46:27] I had nothing to do with the
[00:46:29] exploitation of Native Americans I think
[00:46:31] it was wrong I think it's wrong with
[00:46:32] Andrew Jackson did Abraham Lincoln was
[00:46:34] no hero either but I'm my own individual
[00:46:36] my own person so I I'm not going to
[00:46:39] apologize on behalf of a skin group
[00:46:43] nor should I think anyone should be
[00:46:44] compelled to do the same now as far as
[00:46:47] how to empower indigenous people and
[00:46:50] Native American tribes we've done
[00:46:52] everything wrong Native American
[00:46:54] communities are the worst example of
[00:46:56] socialist failed experiments in my
[00:46:58] personal opinion
[00:47:00] High government dependency widespread
[00:47:01] corruption abuse by Elders if you want
[00:47:04] to look at where the government has
[00:47:05] messed up terribly it's on Native
[00:47:07] American reservations
[00:47:09] and so I'm not going to apologize for
[00:47:12] something I didn't do but I will
[00:47:14] recognize that there has been about a 30
[00:47:16] to 40 year mistreatment mostly designed
[00:47:18] by big government liberals by the way
[00:47:20] coming in with a lot of promises to
[00:47:22] these reservations and unfortunately the
[00:47:25] statistics show that most Native
[00:47:27] American reservations are the most
[00:47:28] alcohol addicted drug-addicted suicidal
[00:47:32] and hopeless square miles in America
[00:47:36] any thoughts no thank you very much
[00:47:39] thanks for being here appreciate it
[00:47:42] [Applause]
[00:47:47] um so I guess the the question that I
[00:47:50] had in mind was
[00:47:52] um as it relates to free speech I guess
[00:47:55] what do you have as potentially its
[00:47:58] limits
[00:48:01] yeah that's a good question we're
[00:48:02] nowhere near that
[00:48:04] so I think reasonable protections for
[00:48:06] children in particular
[00:48:09] um I I am it will appear that I'm
[00:48:12] contradicting myself but I'm not I don't
[00:48:15] think pornography is speech I don't I
[00:48:18] actually think it should be harder to
[00:48:19] consume pornography in America I think
[00:48:21] it's one of the great pollutants of our
[00:48:23] society that has damaged so many young
[00:48:25] people and young men in particular and
[00:48:27] increasingly young women not saying you
[00:48:28] should make it illegal but I think
[00:48:30] actually I would think you should make
[00:48:31] it illegal but I think that if that's
[00:48:34] not realistic right I think you could
[00:48:35] actually take the European model where
[00:48:37] okay you have to put a credit card and
[00:48:38] you have to put some sort of age
[00:48:40] verification system but we're that
[00:48:43] that's that's always brought up right
[00:48:44] people say well what about pornography I
[00:48:46] like I just I don't think that is
[00:48:48] anywhere near where the founding fathers
[00:48:50] were intending what freedom of speech
[00:48:52] should be for I don't think when they
[00:48:54] were writing the First Amendment they
[00:48:56] were saying you know why we rebelled
[00:48:58] against the British
[00:48:59] so people could look at two dudes you
[00:49:01] know like I don't I don't think that's I
[00:49:04] I don't I don't think that was the moral
[00:49:05] premise of Separation I I don't however
[00:49:08] I have to say our limits should be very
[00:49:11] very carefully enforced
[00:49:13] I think I mean Lord Acton had one of the
[00:49:15] great quotes no I'm sorry I wasn't Lord
[00:49:17] acting it was um William Blackstone who
[00:49:20] said it's better for nine nine guilty
[00:49:22] people to walk than an innocent person
[00:49:24] to go to jail right out of 10 people
[00:49:26] right that's his famous quote I think
[00:49:28] the same is for speech I think it's
[00:49:29] better for nine cases To Go uncensored
[00:49:32] than for one wrong case to go censored
[00:49:35] so I draw the line with children
[00:49:37] unapologetically
[00:49:39] um I had a very bizarre question the
[00:49:41] other day someone said well Charlie
[00:49:42] you're for free speech why don't you
[00:49:44] stand for public nudity
[00:49:47] and I said that that that's that's very
[00:49:50] interesting we're really expanding
[00:49:51] speech aren't we
[00:49:53] and the answer is very again it was
[00:49:56] actually fascinating if you go look at
[00:49:58] um the San Francisco city council
[00:50:00] meeting when they were debating public
[00:50:01] nudity at first it failed to pass and
[00:50:05] you know what the objection was for the
[00:50:06] secularists in San Francisco Sanitation
[00:50:09] they said it wasn't it wasn't clean
[00:50:12] public nudity wasn't clean So eventually
[00:50:14] they passed it because they had no moral
[00:50:16] objection no you owe it to the children
[00:50:18] of your Society not to see naked people
[00:50:20] around because the innocence of children
[00:50:22] needs to be protected so you know it's
[00:50:25] very interesting we constantly fight
[00:50:27] against air pollution we hate air
[00:50:29] pollution right environmentalists we can
[00:50:31] we fight against water pollution do we
[00:50:33] ever fight against Soul pollution
[00:50:36] like maybe the thing that the innocent
[00:50:37] person shouldn't be seeing that made
[00:50:39] them innocent no longer
[00:50:41] so I think you have to use Prudence but
[00:50:44] again my line is usually it's better to
[00:50:46] allow a questionable case to speak than
[00:50:50] not that would usually be my rule
[00:50:52] just a quick follow-up on that one
[00:50:55] um because as it relates to speech the
[00:50:57] idea of speech I think in at least the
[00:51:00] resilient sense is that it's supposed to
[00:51:01] be to produce
[00:51:03] truth that's correct or speech to pursue
[00:51:05] it yeah um and the logos and I guess
[00:51:08] with that at what point do we limit uh
[00:51:12] the use of speech for non-truth I guess
[00:51:15] because at some point if that does not
[00:51:19] occur it appears that the truth is a
[00:51:21] matter of public opinion yeah are you
[00:51:23] are you Catholic yes I could tell yeah
[00:51:27] um no no no one mentions Aristotle
[00:51:31] that's it I mean that as a compliment I
[00:51:33] do I'm a Big Aristotle guy
[00:51:35] the question is who decides you're right
[00:51:37] and so unfortunately in the current and
[00:51:40] the current regime we have to yield to
[00:51:42] neutrality it's just the way it is the
[00:51:45] only hope we have to be able to speak
[00:51:46] truth is the demand for neutrality okay
[00:51:49] you do you have to now what's hilarious
[00:51:51] though is they don't want neutrality
[00:51:53] they being the collectivists and the
[00:51:54] authoritarians and the dictators and so
[00:51:57] they will say well you so a classically
[00:52:00] liberal answer to that an Enlightenment
[00:52:02] answer to that a non-aristatilian answer
[00:52:04] which would be more spinozan right would
[00:52:07] say but how do you know what truth is so
[00:52:09] you just let everybody speak right I'm
[00:52:12] actually okay with that right now
[00:52:13] because at least I get to speak okay
[00:52:17] the problem is that they want it the
[00:52:20] other way
[00:52:21] they want to say no no only we get to
[00:52:23] speak and you don't
[00:52:25] so I just think right now it's a wildly
[00:52:27] unrealistic question respectfully right
[00:52:29] but I will say the mechanics of speech
[00:52:31] when properly employed throughout
[00:52:34] periods of time does approximate you
[00:52:36] closer to the logos to the truth it does
[00:52:39] especially if you allow people that
[00:52:42] hopefully are very serious about their
[00:52:45] study to be able to express their
[00:52:46] opinions freely so but I I'd happy to
[00:52:49] explore that more with you thank you God
[00:52:51] bless you
[00:52:55] uh I was curious uh how would you go
[00:52:57] about fighting Marxist indoctrination on
[00:53:00] college campuses and high schools
[00:53:02] just more of this turning point us has
[00:53:04] got to grow I gotta tell you we got to
[00:53:05] keep on fighting do more videos do more
[00:53:07] content I I think that look as far as
[00:53:10] when it goes to you know Marxist
[00:53:11] indoctrination which is a very very real
[00:53:13] thing
[00:53:14] and it's a very big threat to our
[00:53:16] society
[00:53:17] I'm a big believer in obviously truth
[00:53:20] and spreading it and actually a
[00:53:23] piggyback on the previous question
[00:53:24] because I could connect the two this is
[00:53:26] where education I think gets blurred a
[00:53:28] little bit okay so some people will
[00:53:31] misunderstand when I talk about free
[00:53:33] speech and freedom of dialogue and they
[00:53:35] say well Charlie then why don't you want
[00:53:36] to teach a fourth grader critical race
[00:53:39] Theory right because freedom of speech
[00:53:41] an educational setting is not the Public
[00:53:44] Square it's not especially for third
[00:53:46] fourth and fifth graders you're there to
[00:53:48] teach them something you're there to
[00:53:50] instruct them something you're not there
[00:53:52] to hear about their opinions I couldn't
[00:53:54] care less what a third grader has to
[00:53:55] tell me about politics I couldn't care
[00:53:57] less and you shouldn't either okay like
[00:53:59] they got to do some work and they got to
[00:54:01] read something that they didn't write
[00:54:02] that was written by somebody smart and
[00:54:05] wise and then I could hear about maybe
[00:54:06] when they're in high school I all hear
[00:54:07] about it third fourth thing it's like oh
[00:54:09] well you know the fourth graders really
[00:54:11] understand climate change they don't
[00:54:12] understand anything okay they need to be
[00:54:14] taught something
[00:54:15] and so when it comes to the instruction
[00:54:18] of Marxism I think we have to be very
[00:54:21] clear what is the purpose of Education
[00:54:24] the classical interpretation of
[00:54:26] education is to lead forth it's what the
[00:54:28] Latin word literally means to lead forth
[00:54:29] towards Enlightenment or to truth if
[00:54:32] you're familiar with Plato's allegory of
[00:54:34] the Cave the word in education actually
[00:54:36] means that story to bring you from
[00:54:38] assimilation into Enlightenment that's
[00:54:39] what education is supposed to be but
[00:54:41] also it means that you're supposed to
[00:54:42] have a specific destination in mind
[00:54:45] which the Greeks would call the
[00:54:46] teleological or Telos the direction it's
[00:54:50] not supposed to just be a hodgepodge
[00:54:52] where we throw a bunch of kids at things
[00:54:53] at kids and they get to decide
[00:54:55] and so then you say okay Charlie then
[00:54:56] what do you what do you decide what what
[00:54:58] do you want to do I want kids to
[00:55:00] understand good true and beautiful
[00:55:01] things
[00:55:02] I want them to know the best Society has
[00:55:04] to offer
[00:55:05] that's what I want them to know
[00:55:07] I want them to know
[00:55:10] why is it that this civilization has
[00:55:13] been as successful as it has been
[00:55:16] that's a good thing for society
[00:55:18] I don't need them to hear about the
[00:55:20] garbage or the propaganda about why this
[00:55:21] country is awful and evil and
[00:55:23] misogynistic and colonialistic it's not
[00:55:25] what education is for it's not someone
[00:55:27] would disagree like that's exactly what
[00:55:29] education is for okay
[00:55:31] well only one side can win I suppose and
[00:55:34] they say well I want to hear both sides
[00:55:35] and I always hear they say like so you
[00:55:37] have a fourth grader right limited
[00:55:38] attention span increasingly so because
[00:55:39] of tick tock you only get so much Tick
[00:55:42] Tock is garbage by the way it's a
[00:55:43] terrible thing you only get so much
[00:55:45] attention with a kid right you only get
[00:55:46] so much time to talk to them
[00:55:48] so let me get this straight do we talk
[00:55:50] about both sides of the Flat Earth
[00:55:52] theory
[00:55:55] yeah so you say Okay
[00:55:57] um let's teach the kids equal time that
[00:56:00] the Earth is flat and equal time that
[00:56:03] the Earth is circular
[00:56:05] okay or spherical I'm sorry spherical
[00:56:07] not circular do we do equal time
[00:56:10] silly we know that do we do blood
[00:56:12] lighting
[00:56:13] seminars like you know there's an
[00:56:14] interesting theory that used to exist
[00:56:15] where you could get rid of your viruses
[00:56:17] by slitting your wrists
[00:56:19] it's rubbish you don't teach things that
[00:56:21] aren't true
[00:56:23] you have to know what is true before you
[00:56:25] ever step foot into an education setting
[00:56:28] and if you're afraid to say that there's
[00:56:30] objective truth you should not be a
[00:56:31] teacher you should be a student thank
[00:56:34] you I appreciate that
[00:56:36] foreign
[00:56:39] so as I was walking through the Walk of
[00:56:43] Shame I think that's what they called it
[00:56:44] I started um I started getting like
[00:56:48] called from them like being yelled at
[00:56:50] and then eventually I got called Brown
[00:56:51] yep so I don't know
[00:56:53] what that means because they were saying
[00:56:55] how they were like white Supreme how we
[00:56:57] are right supremacists then they called
[00:56:58] me Brown and I should and I was on the
[00:57:00] wrong side that's what they were saying
[00:57:01] so then it started um making me think
[00:57:04] about it because then you also mentioned
[00:57:05] it in your opening remarks how
[00:57:07] they're always attacking us but they're
[00:57:09] never doing this
[00:57:11] right and so I wanted to like kind of
[00:57:13] know your your thoughts on that on why
[00:57:16] is it that they don't have stuff like
[00:57:18] this how they're always focused on just
[00:57:20] trying not to try not to let us do this
[00:57:22] but they're not focused on doing it
[00:57:24] themselves
[00:57:26] thank you for being here that that's a
[00:57:27] wonderful question they don't believe
[00:57:29] speech is a value
[00:57:31] their Viewpoint is that speech is white
[00:57:34] supremacy
[00:57:36] if you read Jacques derrada who is one
[00:57:40] of the most um
[00:57:43] cited yeah thank you that's that's well
[00:57:45] said he's one of the most cited and
[00:57:46] influential post-modernist thinkers of
[00:57:49] the last 50 or 60 years he had a term
[00:57:52] that I kind of blitzed through okay
[00:57:54] where he said the West is fallow logo
[00:57:58] Centric
[00:57:59] fallow meaning the phallus it is
[00:58:01] dominated by men
[00:58:03] logo logos in the Greek truth speech
[00:58:06] reason rational dialogue all those
[00:58:08] things are replacement terms Centric
[00:58:11] and he said this is the problem with the
[00:58:13] West
[00:58:14] men talking that's the center
[00:58:18] and so therefore in The post-modernist
[00:58:21] View
[00:58:22] and you can read one dimensional Man by
[00:58:24] Herbert marcusa you could read intro to
[00:58:27] critical theory by all of the um by
[00:58:30] Derek Belden right intro to critical
[00:58:32] theory but anyway they talk about how
[00:58:34] speech is not something that we should
[00:58:37] embrace
[00:58:37] that it's dangerous that it's a trick
[00:58:39] that actually all of you are being
[00:58:41] fooled by being here
[00:58:43] that the fact we're talking is actually
[00:58:45] Charlie being a white supremacist and
[00:58:48] hoodwinking you to believe that
[00:58:51] everything should remain the same
[00:58:53] I find that to be laughable and
[00:58:55] objectionable that's a growing view in
[00:58:58] America
[00:58:59] that's what used to run Twitter does it
[00:59:01] anymore thanks to Elon Musk Elon Musk
[00:59:03] believes in speech praise God he does
[00:59:04] it's a big deal
[00:59:06] because every single totalitarian regime
[00:59:10] has two things in common
[00:59:12] they must shut up people who disagree
[00:59:14] with them always from Lenin to Mao to
[00:59:17] right now in the CCP to what Twitter
[00:59:19] used to be and number two they think
[00:59:20] they're doing good
[00:59:22] if you interviewed Hitler a year before
[00:59:24] he committed suicide
[00:59:26] and you said do you think you're doing
[00:59:28] good he's convinced he was doing the
[00:59:30] right thing
[00:59:33] everyone out there thinks they're doing
[00:59:35] the right thing you know how you find
[00:59:36] out you got to defend your position
[00:59:37] against someone who disagrees speech if
[00:59:41] you don't talk you get radical very
[00:59:42] quickly and that's what's happening in
[00:59:44] our country thank you for being here
[00:59:45] appreciate it and thanks for fighting
[00:59:47] through that
[00:59:47] [Applause]
[00:59:51] so you talked a lot tonight about things
[00:59:52] that are good and true and beautiful and
[00:59:54] so this brought to mind one of my
[00:59:56] favorite questions which is what does it
[00:59:58] mean to be good
[01:00:00] it's a great question what does it mean
[01:00:01] to be good
[01:00:03] I would say first and foremost to
[01:00:04] glorify God
[01:00:05] to protect what is eternal that which
[01:00:08] always lasts
[01:00:10] we could spend two hours talking about
[01:00:12] two two semesters talking about what is
[01:00:15] good I think Aristotle got it closest to
[01:00:17] right the first line of Aristotle's
[01:00:19] ethics is that every art and every
[01:00:20] inquiry every action points towards some
[01:00:22] good so what our Aristotle was saying is
[01:00:24] the same thing I've been saying which is
[01:00:26] if you take out the kind of mentally
[01:00:28] insane okay outside of the equation okay
[01:00:31] every person including a bad person
[01:00:33] thinks they are doing good therefore the
[01:00:35] most important question that you can
[01:00:37] wrestle with a young person is what is
[01:00:39] good
[01:00:41] that's the most important thing because
[01:00:43] right now you have an entire movement on
[01:00:46] the left that is committed they are
[01:00:48] doing good
[01:00:49] and then you have an entire movement on
[01:00:50] the right that thinks they are doing
[01:00:52] good somebody has to be right somebody
[01:00:54] has to be wrong or they both could be
[01:00:55] wrong but the point is that they're both
[01:00:57] convinced that their actions are leading
[01:00:59] towards a good so what is the good
[01:01:02] best way I could say it in my own
[01:01:04] metaphysical view is to glorify God to
[01:01:06] bring people closer to him
[01:01:08] to conserve the best and the Beautiful
[01:01:11] and you might say well Charlie give me
[01:01:13] an example what is beautiful
[01:01:15] well I could go through natural beauty
[01:01:16] you're surrounded by New Mexico
[01:01:19] I could go through
[01:01:21] the beauty of how incredible it is to
[01:01:23] create life we just welcomed the
[01:01:25] daughter into into the world very
[01:01:27] beautiful thing by the way
[01:01:28] [Applause]
[01:01:33] the good needs to be protected with
[01:01:36] courage
[01:01:38] and one of the reasons why people say
[01:01:40] there's no good in the world which is
[01:01:41] just not true is the courage of allowed
[01:01:43] evil to overtake good far too often
[01:01:45] so that's the best answer I could give
[01:01:47] to that
[01:01:48] thank you
[01:01:53] hey Charlie thanks for coming
[01:01:55] it's it's not God's will that any should
[01:01:57] perish but come to repentance and have
[01:01:59] eternal life many Democrats are quick to
[01:02:01] label Bible Believers as homophobic and
[01:02:03] transphobic if we don't tolerate or
[01:02:05] denounce it as Sin so how do we bridge
[01:02:07] the gap and share the truth with them
[01:02:10] yeah that's a great question so Bridging
[01:02:13] the Gap I can't really help with that
[01:02:16] I'll be honest because I mean I say that
[01:02:18] because I say these things and I get
[01:02:20] protests right look I believe marriage
[01:02:22] is between one man and one woman and I
[01:02:24] believe this trans thing is one of the
[01:02:25] most Insidious and poisonous movements
[01:02:27] happening in America right now and you
[01:02:29] might have your own personal opinions
[01:02:31] about this but if you think that it's
[01:02:33] okay to teach an eight-year-old that you
[01:02:34] could change your gender or your sex I
[01:02:36] think you're completely wrong I think
[01:02:38] it's immoral to put an 11 year old into
[01:02:40] surgery because they think that there's
[01:02:42] something they're not the whole point of
[01:02:44] being a child is you're more fascinated
[01:02:46] with imagination than reality
[01:02:48] that's what being a child is
[01:02:50] you grow up you say well you know people
[01:02:52] say grow up you know what you say when
[01:02:53] you grow up means get back to reality is
[01:02:55] what it means
[01:02:57] so look as far as Bridging the Gap
[01:03:00] this is one of the reasons why the
[01:03:01] education system has done so much damage
[01:03:02] in our country is you have to you have
[01:03:05] to stay true to the natural law
[01:03:07] which and then this is why understanding
[01:03:09] the Bible is so important and by the way
[01:03:11] any of you can propose a better guide
[01:03:13] than the Bible you're welcome to come up
[01:03:14] at any time and tell me what book you
[01:03:16] think is a better manual for Humanity
[01:03:18] than I mean that come to the I'm open to
[01:03:20] any other book which is distinctions
[01:03:24] life makes sense when you have
[01:03:26] distinctions
[01:03:27] it just does
[01:03:28] the Bible is so clear about the need of
[01:03:31] separation and distinctions
[01:03:33] the distinction of good and evil man and
[01:03:36] woman
[01:03:37] animal and human which is a very big one
[01:03:39] by the way
[01:03:40] we don't talk enough about that this is
[01:03:42] one of the things that the the radical
[01:03:44] animal activists are are involved in by
[01:03:48] the way if I asked if I asked just by a
[01:03:49] show of hands those of you that have you
[01:03:51] know dogs that you care about if your
[01:03:53] dog was drowning or a stranger was
[01:03:55] drowning who would save your dog raise
[01:03:57] your hand
[01:03:58] okay
[01:03:59] a couple hands who had saved a stranger
[01:04:01] okay it shouldn't even be close Okay no
[01:04:04] offense you should let your dog die
[01:04:05] because your heart is misleading you
[01:04:08] the dog and the human are not on equal
[01:04:11] moral footing you may love your dog but
[01:04:13] your heart is misleading you talks about
[01:04:15] that all throughout the Bible the human
[01:04:17] is made in the image of God the dog is
[01:04:18] not made in the image of God the human
[01:04:20] has a soul the dog does not okay I could
[01:04:22] go on how do we commit convince them you
[01:04:24] got it you gotta try your best in a
[01:04:26] short period of time to talk about the
[01:04:28] natural law
[01:04:29] good luck it's not easy right I totally
[01:04:32] understand that my position is deeply
[01:04:34] unpopular and then uh ever secular
[01:04:37] society thank you appreciate it
[01:04:43] again if you uh disagree feel free to to
[01:04:46] hop on in go ahead hey uh so I got my
[01:04:49] undergraduate degree in public health
[01:04:51] and through my whole college experience
[01:04:53] it seemed like one answer like one
[01:04:55] opinion was being pushed outside of
[01:04:58] college most of these public health
[01:04:59] organizations and departments department
[01:05:01] of health organizations are putting all
[01:05:03] their money time effort resources into
[01:05:06] what I would say are like the wrong
[01:05:07] places put our resources like for
[01:05:09] example covet is one example shutting
[01:05:11] down schools businesses for safety but
[01:05:13] the public health organizations don't
[01:05:15] seem to to care about like the effects
[01:05:17] of like their actions what are your
[01:05:20] thoughts on like how can we change our
[01:05:23] Focus to like real important issues and
[01:05:26] like I don't want the the degree of
[01:05:28] Public Health to be seen as like this
[01:05:29] hopeless degree in the eyes of like
[01:05:31] conservatives and Christians
[01:05:33] um like for example my aunt like a
[01:05:34] couple weeks ago apologized for uh being
[01:05:37] the reason why I like went and got a
[01:05:39] degree in public health so I just want
[01:05:40] to get your thoughts on that well first
[01:05:42] of all I want to encourage you we need
[01:05:43] good people in all fields we do and we
[01:05:45] need good people to make sure Anthony
[01:05:46] fauci never happens again so that's your
[01:05:48] job okay to make sure we never get
[01:05:50] Anthony without you
[01:05:53] I I could go on at length about why the
[01:05:57] lockdowns were one of the worst
[01:05:58] decisions ever made and it goes back to
[01:06:01] a theme of this speech which is what is
[01:06:04] your morality and our morality as a
[01:06:06] society
[01:06:08] was to sacrifice the young for the old
[01:06:12] that's what it was there is no other way
[01:06:14] to explain the closure of schools period
[01:06:16] we are going to make this generation
[01:06:18] miserable because we want the old to be
[01:06:20] able to be protected
[01:06:22] it should be the other way around to be
[01:06:23] perfectly honest it should be the old
[01:06:25] trying to sacrifice their own livelihood
[01:06:28] for their children it's that now we have
[01:06:30] the most suicidal alcohol addict a drug
[01:06:31] addicted
[01:06:33] generation in history as far as going to
[01:06:35] Public Health we need you we need you to
[01:06:37] fight for a restoration of science not
[01:06:40] scientism
[01:06:41] you know they always say you know follow
[01:06:43] the science is what they commonly say
[01:06:46] they never meant that they might follow
[01:06:48] the scientists they like
[01:06:50] scientism is completely different than a
[01:06:53] moral a moral
[01:06:56] exploration into the natural world
[01:06:58] there's two ways to think about science
[01:07:00] the right way and the dangerous way the
[01:07:02] right way is that we're going to look
[01:07:04] into the natural world see what it has
[01:07:06] to offer see what how things work
[01:07:08] explore it educate ourselves on it and
[01:07:10] appreciate it and then if we have to
[01:07:13] make it if we have to make Innovations
[01:07:15] or experiments in reaction to that
[01:07:16] praise God scientism is we're going to
[01:07:19] change the natural world
[01:07:20] totally different you might say Charlie
[01:07:22] give me an example okay
[01:07:23] medically mutilating a 14 year old that
[01:07:26] is born a boy and wants to be a girl
[01:07:28] that's trying to change the natural
[01:07:29] world
[01:07:30] that is using the force of man over
[01:07:34] what I believe is God created nature
[01:07:37] and that shouldn't be done but boy do we
[01:07:38] need you in public health and then I
[01:07:40] would just I would um recommend that we
[01:07:42] have a much broader view of what is
[01:07:44] public health because what is happening
[01:07:46] with our nation's young people when it
[01:07:48] comes to psychiatric drugs and
[01:07:50] depression it's it's great it's it's it
[01:07:54] is a greater damaging long-term effect
[01:07:56] than covet ever could have been to this
[01:07:58] generation and a lot of it was
[01:08:00] preventable thank you appreciate it
[01:08:01] thank you
[01:08:04] foreign
[01:08:05] hello Mr Kirk my name is Kaylee
[01:08:08] um so you talked a lot about freedom of
[01:08:10] speech how do you suggest we protect the
[01:08:13] freedom of speech how are we supposed to
[01:08:14] do that yeah that's a really important
[01:08:16] question so this is where it gets a
[01:08:19] little bit tricky right so it's not just
[01:08:21] the freedom to have events like this so
[01:08:24] let's kind of go into a constitutional
[01:08:26] moral question right which is okay
[01:08:29] the the really sad people out there they
[01:08:33] have a right to protest we all
[01:08:34] acknowledge that you have a right to
[01:08:36] come to the event I have a right to
[01:08:37] speak right so that what what happens
[01:08:39] then when they prevent you from coming
[01:08:40] into the building
[01:08:42] right do they have a right then to
[01:08:45] forcibly block the doorway I say no I
[01:08:48] say they don't I say at that point
[01:08:50] they're using Force to prohibit your
[01:08:52] ability to attend an event
[01:08:54] so at some point you have to be willing
[01:08:56] to use Force
[01:08:57] to then protect the ability to speak
[01:09:00] now I actually think the the the deeper
[01:09:03] and the more consequential
[01:09:07] argument on speech is happening online
[01:09:10] and I have to say one of the most
[01:09:13] unexpected and courageous things I've
[01:09:15] seen is Elon Musk buying Twitter it's
[01:09:18] it's it is bigger than any election than
[01:09:20] anything I could put my head around if
[01:09:21] Twitter legitimately gets liberated
[01:09:23] which it looks like it is in real time
[01:09:26] the left is going to have a very hard
[01:09:28] time continually pushing these fake
[01:09:30] narratives on us imagine a free and open
[01:09:32] Twitter when they told us that the virus
[01:09:34] came from a bat at the at a wet Market
[01:09:37] you got kicked off imagine a free and
[01:09:39] open Twitter when they said the hunter
[01:09:40] Biden laptop was Russian disinformation
[01:09:43] imagine a free and open Twitter when
[01:09:46] they told us that Ivermectin was horse
[01:09:49] paced
[01:09:50] all those stories got you kicked off of
[01:09:51] Twitter every single one of them a free
[01:09:54] and open Twitter will prevent the next
[01:09:56] big lie from ever happening
[01:10:00] so that's a big deal but I think the
[01:10:02] bigger threat is Apple and Google I
[01:10:04] think that they have far too much power
[01:10:06] to police our speech via YouTube and
[01:10:08] also the App Store I'm not
[01:10:11] I'm not enthusiastic about using
[01:10:13] government power if you would have asked
[01:10:15] the question six months ago I was
[01:10:17] extremely pessimistic about the status
[01:10:21] of free speech
[01:10:22] but Elon has changed the game I got to
[01:10:24] tell you he has he has been an
[01:10:26] unexpected entrance entry into this
[01:10:29] entire dynamic because I used to say you
[01:10:32] know we gotta have section 230 reform
[01:10:34] and do all these different things I
[01:10:35] still believe that
[01:10:37] but man him spending 44 billion dollars
[01:10:39] to go purchase a company to go restore
[01:10:42] Donald Trump's Twitter account and let
[01:10:43] all these people back online and these
[01:10:45] prisoners of war from the meme Wars I
[01:10:47] mean it is
[01:10:49] so they are their their pows God bless
[01:10:51] them
[01:10:53] that's a big threat to the regime I will
[01:10:55] say this
[01:10:56] I hope Elon is ready for what they're
[01:10:58] about to do to him I I don't think Elon
[01:11:00] is naive I don't
[01:11:02] but uh
[01:11:04] this is a provocative thing to say
[01:11:06] who has more powerful enemies than Elon
[01:11:08] Musk right now I can't think of anybody
[01:11:11] Donald Trump maybe I got to tell you I
[01:11:13] think Elon beats Trump for right now
[01:11:15] though I got to tell you
[01:11:16] because Elon is an active participant in
[01:11:20] making it harder for them to take over
[01:11:22] the world
[01:11:23] that's what he's doing
[01:11:25] man he's uh I wouldn't want I think he's
[01:11:29] always one move ahead of everybody else
[01:11:31] and um I sure hope he knows what he's
[01:11:33] doing because what he's doing is
[01:11:34] liberating speech so anyway to answer
[01:11:36] your question
[01:11:37] you should be able to speak freely and
[01:11:39] there should be laws that reflect that
[01:11:41] in its time I think some of those laws
[01:11:43] get to the Public Square thankfully
[01:11:45] we're in a much better spot because of
[01:11:47] Elon appreciate the question actually I
[01:11:48] have one more okay really quick and we
[01:11:50] only have time for a couple how can we
[01:11:52] pray for you oh thank you so much
[01:11:55] um pray for endurance
[01:11:57] uh we didn't stop at all post-election
[01:12:01] boy that was a mess
[01:12:03] um and so we're running a pretty high
[01:12:05] clip right now and uh pray that Turning
[01:12:08] Point USA continues to flourish but more
[01:12:11] importantly pray for our students they
[01:12:12] get persecuted every single day it's uh
[01:12:15] very very important thank you for asking
[01:12:16] and pray for our family too thank you
[01:12:18] thank you appreciate that
[01:12:24] hi um I'm a sophomore at La Cueva high
[01:12:27] school and the co-president of our
[01:12:28] chapter and so since we started the
[01:12:30] chapter I've had a lot of people come up
[01:12:33] to me and say so why do you even care
[01:12:35] about politics because obviously I'm not
[01:12:37] old enough to vote yet and so they ask
[01:12:39] why I even care because they think that
[01:12:40] it doesn't affect my generation and
[01:12:43] people that are my age even though it
[01:12:45] very clearly does so how would you
[01:12:47] explain that well actually paradoxically
[01:12:49] affects you more than anybody else
[01:12:50] actually uh every decision actually
[01:12:53] affects the Next Generation even more
[01:12:55] than the current generation from the
[01:12:56] debt from the southern border from the
[01:12:58] drug use first of all what you're doing
[01:13:00] is you're fighting cynicism right and
[01:13:02] you're not the first one to do that uh
[01:13:04] in in society but I think you should
[01:13:07] challenge whoever says that is well then
[01:13:09] what do you care about
[01:13:10] and they might say nothing and that's a
[01:13:12] very common gen Z answer right I care
[01:13:15] about nothing and I'm proud of it I want
[01:13:16] to tell everyone how I care about
[01:13:17] nothing on tick tock
[01:13:19] weird like okay I see like my whole Tick
[01:13:21] Tock is I care about nothing now follow
[01:13:23] me because I care about nothing okay
[01:13:25] well you obviously care about something
[01:13:27] um anyway it's like this weird like
[01:13:28] badge of honor like I'm too cool so I'm
[01:13:30] cynical type thing like okay pal we've
[01:13:32] we've seen it all before
[01:13:34] um so you got to fight against the
[01:13:35] cynicism and then I think you have to
[01:13:37] give an answer like I love this country
[01:13:39] and I'm old enough I'm not old enough to
[01:13:41] vote but I'm old enough to think
[01:13:43] you should try doing that is what you
[01:13:45] should tell but be nice here in high
[01:13:46] school see you know but
[01:13:49] honestly I I hope adults that are voting
[01:13:51] age draw inspiration from you because
[01:13:53] you're not even able to vote and you're
[01:13:55] fighting very hard and you're trying to
[01:13:57] build a better life and that's what you
[01:13:58] should say you should say I want a
[01:14:00] better life it's never too young to
[01:14:02] start to try to build a better life
[01:14:03] there's not all of a sudden like a
[01:14:05] magical bell when you hit voting age
[01:14:07] like now I could start to care
[01:14:09] no that's not the way it works you want
[01:14:10] a better world and by the way those very
[01:14:13] same people I guarantee you have like
[01:14:15] BLM stickers on their laptop and like
[01:14:17] yeah okay so you care about that
[01:14:19] you don't care about this or they're
[01:14:20] really big into Greta funberg or
[01:14:22] whatever right so
[01:14:23] God bless you thank you for your
[01:14:24] leadership thank you thank you
[01:14:30] I'm also from the liquid chapter and
[01:14:32] recently I got in a debate with this
[01:14:34] girl at school and she claimed that in
[01:14:37] the U.S women have it harder making
[01:14:39] money and I wanted to see your argument
[01:14:43] to disapprove that opinion yeah so thank
[01:14:46] you for the question it's great so it it
[01:14:48] comes from a specific left-wing lie I
[01:14:50] actually haven't talked about this in
[01:14:51] quite some time because first I just I
[01:14:53] just want to I think you should just ask
[01:14:54] him because he's just hilarious ask him
[01:14:55] what is a woman okay just like just you
[01:14:58] just got to get that out of the way
[01:15:00] right because you could you got to have
[01:15:02] it you got to pick one right it's either
[01:15:04] the Womanhood is not a thing or women
[01:15:06] are less than men like you gotta this is
[01:15:08] like the inherent Civil War that I'm
[01:15:10] just waiting and waiting and waiting
[01:15:13] between feminism and the alphabet Mafia
[01:15:16] like I just can't wait to like please go
[01:15:18] to war eventually because they're
[01:15:20] inherently at odds with each other right
[01:15:22] which like Womanhood is amazing we're
[01:15:23] under attack there is no such thing as a
[01:15:25] woman anyone could be a woman
[01:15:28] there's only one answer to that
[01:15:30] um so in some in a weird way I actually
[01:15:31] totally agree with the feminists like
[01:15:32] Womanhood is a very real thing women are
[01:15:35] real
[01:15:36] um and there are difference between men
[01:15:38] and women okay to your question though
[01:15:39] okay so Gloria Steinem feminism would
[01:15:43] argue that women are oppressed and
[01:15:45] they're oppressed in the workplace it's
[01:15:47] part of this whole victimology nonsense
[01:15:49] so I'm going to say some numbers they're
[01:15:51] going to be imprecise because I haven't
[01:15:52] done this in a while but basically they
[01:15:54] say that women earn like what 82 cents
[01:15:55] of every dollar of a man that's the
[01:15:57] number they usually spout is that
[01:15:59] correct I I might be 78 or 84. so anyway
[01:16:01] so what they what they're not doing
[01:16:03] though is a couple things they're not
[01:16:04] factoring in what did they study in
[01:16:06] college how long have they been in the
[01:16:08] workforce okay how often have they asked
[01:16:11] their boss for a promotion or a raise
[01:16:13] and what did they do in their late 20s
[01:16:15] okay these are four things so let's go
[01:16:17] through this women because women are
[01:16:19] different than men we agree I hope
[01:16:21] they're more likely to be nurturing and
[01:16:24] pathetic
[01:16:25] compassionate they gravitate more
[01:16:27] towards childhood education more towards
[01:16:30] psychology they study things that pay
[01:16:33] less
[01:16:34] and they study have degrees that by
[01:16:36] definition are a lower pay scale men are
[01:16:39] more likely to study engineering
[01:16:41] Finance business okay so if women study
[01:16:45] the same thing as men and if they enter
[01:16:47] into a field and if in their late 20s
[01:16:49] which by the way your late 20s you'll
[01:16:51] learn this 27-32 is the big exponent on
[01:16:55] your career it's where all of a sudden
[01:16:56] you get the most promotions the most
[01:16:58] responsibility the kind of the biggest
[01:17:00] uptick most young women for good reason
[01:17:02] praise God exit the workforce
[01:17:04] voluntarily to go have children
[01:17:07] okay that removes them from a lot of
[01:17:09] promotions a lot of raises and things of
[01:17:11] that nature men keep on working through
[01:17:13] and so it looks as if wow men are
[01:17:15] earning so much more than women now do
[01:17:16] you know it's actually against the law
[01:17:17] to pay women less than men it's against
[01:17:19] the law
[01:17:20] what they're saying though is well look
[01:17:22] at this macro data hilariously in 14 out
[01:17:26] of 15 of the top cities in America women
[01:17:28] earn more than men in their late 20s
[01:17:30] if you actually look at when women study
[01:17:32] the same thing as men and they do not
[01:17:34] they make the decision not to have
[01:17:35] children and they stay in their career
[01:17:37] in their to their early 30s something I
[01:17:38] don't recommend I actually think it
[01:17:39] creates really miserable women they
[01:17:40] actually end up earning more than men so
[01:17:43] it's just it's a flat out lie I'm happy
[01:17:44] to send you podcasts articles and
[01:17:47] research and data to support that
[01:17:50] um but they can't have it both ways and
[01:17:52] there are a lot of there are several
[01:17:54] professions by the way where women earn
[01:17:55] more than men nursing for example women
[01:17:57] earn more than men in nursing it's the
[01:17:59] fact no one ever talks about that all
[01:18:01] right thanks so much appreciate it all
[01:18:02] right we'll do a couple more
[01:18:04] foreign
[01:18:05] [Applause]
[01:18:06] hello Charlie
[01:18:08] um my name is Ricardo I am a Hispanic
[01:18:11] young Mexican-American
[01:18:13] um so I come from a family who are who
[01:18:17] are consists of radical Chicanos mostly
[01:18:19] on my father's side
[01:18:21] um and
[01:18:23] I feel like it's kind of been a
[01:18:25] challenge lately because I feel like
[01:18:28] with me kind of Shifting becoming more
[01:18:30] conservative lately I've kind of like
[01:18:32] tried to just like like it's been it's
[01:18:35] been hard it's been hard to try and like
[01:18:36] talk him and just make I mean I'm not
[01:18:37] trying to change his opinions or
[01:18:39] anything I'm just trying to make him
[01:18:40] understand
[01:18:41] so I just wanted to get some advice from
[01:18:42] you like what do you think is the best
[01:18:44] way to help other other Mexican
[01:18:47] Americans or other young minorities like
[01:18:49] myself
[01:18:50] like who are in this same position like
[01:18:53] what do you think is the best way to
[01:18:55] help them like maybe make them
[01:18:55] understand a little bit so let me ask
[01:18:58] you a question and it'll be a
[01:18:59] generalization how many people in your
[01:19:02] community think that men can become
[01:19:04] pregnant
[01:19:06] [Music]
[01:19:07] I I haven't really got any insight on
[01:19:10] that but I don't think I don't I would
[01:19:13] say maybe maybe some maybe not not all
[01:19:16] but I think there would be some I would
[01:19:18] guess it's probably not a popular
[01:19:19] Viewpoint in the Mexican-American
[01:19:22] Community my point is that
[01:19:25] white woke liberalism
[01:19:28] is incredibly incongruent
[01:19:31] with
[01:19:33] Mexican-American values
[01:19:36] big family lots of children life begins
[01:19:39] at conception not every obviously
[01:19:41] hispanic Mexican family believes that
[01:19:43] but that is a widely held belief or how
[01:19:45] about just traditional gender norms
[01:19:47] without diving too deep into it Spanish
[01:19:49] is literally built on the conjugation
[01:19:52] of verbs based on gender right
[01:19:56] that's a good place to start
[01:19:58] the most widespread widespread
[01:20:01] pernicious and popular movement in
[01:20:03] America
[01:20:05] is to believe something along the lines
[01:20:07] of that men can become pregnant women
[01:20:09] and men have no differences and you
[01:20:11] could change your gender at will
[01:20:13] you might not be able to convince
[01:20:16] Mexican Americans or in your word
[01:20:18] Chicanos to believe in free market
[01:20:21] economics immediately
[01:20:22] but I bet you can get them to believe
[01:20:24] that the 9 10 15 20 Generations that
[01:20:28] they could probably Trace their lineage
[01:20:29] back to everything that they've believed
[01:20:32] with gender Norms is about to change if
[01:20:34] they embrace the American left and
[01:20:36] they're all white and they all hate them
[01:20:38] that's how I would start perfect thank
[01:20:40] you thanks
[01:20:43] okay two more questions
[01:20:46] um so with the uh you know 2020 election
[01:20:49] you know there's some people on some
[01:20:51] side that are saying you know there was
[01:20:53] uh truckloads of fake ballots and then
[01:20:55] there's some that say there was
[01:20:56] absolutely no cheating
[01:20:58] where where do you stand on that and who
[01:21:00] in your opinion is the best presidential
[01:21:03] candidate for 2024. it's good I've I've
[01:21:05] never been asked that question I'm
[01:21:07] getting I got all the time very
[01:21:08] informative very so I look I try not to
[01:21:12] dwell too much on this topic
[01:21:13] but there there is there are legitimate
[01:21:15] ballot harvesting operations across the
[01:21:17] country I call them mules it's been
[01:21:18] proven in a variety of different ways
[01:21:20] that's what happens when you get
[01:21:22] Universal vote by mail and it happened
[01:21:24] definitely in Arizona we know that
[01:21:25] happened in Georgia happened in
[01:21:26] Pennsylvania I think it happened again
[01:21:28] in this last election by the way
[01:21:30] malice massive uh manipulation of vote
[01:21:33] by mail and all that nonsense okay so
[01:21:35] I'm happy to get into that
[01:21:37] um I think that it's a mistake to mail
[01:21:39] everybody a ballot I think it's a
[01:21:40] mistake to have Universal voter
[01:21:41] registration I think it's a mistake to
[01:21:42] have voting month I'd love to get back
[01:21:44] to voting day Precinct by Precinct
[01:21:46] voting I think that you should vote in
[01:21:47] person if possible I would love to
[01:21:49] restore all those different things
[01:21:50] unfortunately everything I just
[01:21:52] articulated is losing awfully like in
[01:21:55] every state it's becoming Mass vote by
[01:21:56] mail which I think opens the door in
[01:21:58] that way happy to go through the numbers
[01:22:00] with you and that answer your second
[01:22:02] question about 2024 I've answered this
[01:22:04] quite some times I'm going to back
[01:22:06] Donald Trump in 2024 it's my own
[01:22:08] personal endorsement not on behalf of
[01:22:09] Turning Point USA I know the president
[01:22:11] very well I've known him for years he's
[01:22:13] been very good to me and I'm loyal with
[01:22:15] that being said I am a outspoken fan of
[01:22:18] Governor DeSantis I think he's
[01:22:20] spectacular
[01:22:22] um I think he's America's greatest
[01:22:23] governor and I will say this I did not
[01:22:26] like it when Donald Trump attacked
[01:22:27] DeSantis I hope he stops that I say that
[01:22:30] as a a friend and is a supporter of
[01:22:31] Donald Trump I don't think it actually
[01:22:32] helps him actually I think it hurts him
[01:22:34] I think Ron DeSantis has a chance to be
[01:22:37] a once in a generation political leader
[01:22:38] I really do but Donald Trump was the
[01:22:41] best president of my lifetime
[01:22:42] and I'm a loyal person and that's where
[01:22:44] I stand for 2024. thank you appreciate
[01:22:46] it thank you this will be the last
[01:22:48] question
[01:22:49] sorry guys last question
[01:22:52] so I had two questions is that okay
[01:22:54] let's do it all right I'll make it quick
[01:22:55] so first one is a little bit of a more
[01:22:58] lighthearted one so
[01:23:00] um my partner she's extremely religious
[01:23:01] I'm not super religious myself however
[01:23:04] I've got a ring on my finger now so I
[01:23:05] want to change that
[01:23:07] um so
[01:23:08] she got me a daily devotional I've been
[01:23:10] reading we've been going to church
[01:23:12] um and trying to dig into that because I
[01:23:13] do have a Christian background
[01:23:15] what would you say are some day-to-day
[01:23:17] things I can help support her and be a
[01:23:19] more religious partner that's a
[01:23:20] beautiful question I just want to make a
[01:23:22] church recommendation go to Legacy
[01:23:23] church here locally they're they're
[01:23:25] terrific so uh I think I think you'll
[01:23:27] really be blessed by that that's a
[01:23:29] really important question uh about how I
[01:23:32] mean I've actually never been asked that
[01:23:33] question how can I be a better religious
[01:23:35] person
[01:23:36] wow um partner two yes pray together
[01:23:41] um the Bible is the greatest book ever
[01:23:43] written it's actually a contemplation of
[01:23:45] books I believe it is the word of God
[01:23:47] inherent and endlessly helpful to
[01:23:50] humanity and I I would I would try to
[01:23:53] read the entire Bible in a year my wife
[01:23:55] has a whole Ministry that helps you do
[01:23:57] that called Bible in 365.
[01:23:59] if you really want to dive deep into it
[01:24:01] I'm a big believer in fasting
[01:24:03] I also believe that one of the great
[01:24:05] Christian failings of the last of this
[01:24:07] generation is not honoring the Sabbath
[01:24:09] and so I would highly recommend honoring
[01:24:12] the Sabbath I'm not saying that in a
[01:24:14] Christian context you are commanded it
[01:24:16] is the only one of the Ten Commandments
[01:24:17] Jesus did not explicitly repeat in fact
[01:24:20] he added some interesting nuance and
[01:24:22] context however
[01:24:23] God honored the Sabbath when he created
[01:24:25] the world so that that's that's my best
[01:24:27] counter argument to that I think it
[01:24:28] would actually bless you I have a whole
[01:24:29] speech where I think actually honoring
[01:24:32] the Sabbath is the Commandment that
[01:24:34] makes the other Commandments possible I
[01:24:36] think that if every human being honor
[01:24:37] the Sabbath there would be less murder
[01:24:39] less stealing less infidelity less
[01:24:41] cheating less Envy I think the Sabbath
[01:24:43] calms your spirit and your soul down
[01:24:45] away from the materialistic hyper crazy
[01:24:48] world I'm a big believer in the Sabbath
[01:24:50] so I'd recommend that
[01:24:51] um and then I would um
[01:24:53] I would recommend just finding someone
[01:24:57] who takes their faith very seriously and
[01:25:00] asking a lot of questions and go to
[01:25:02] church together
[01:25:03] and you're going to grow deeply in your
[01:25:06] faith I really believe that you have a
[01:25:07] second question really quick yes uh
[01:25:08] first off thank you for that that was a
[01:25:10] huge help um second one not as
[01:25:12] light-hearted
[01:25:13] um over the last two years we've seen an
[01:25:15] increase in militancy on either side of
[01:25:16] the the political Spectrum where we know
[01:25:18] well I mean like it used to be just you
[01:25:21] know you'd see these right-wing militias
[01:25:23] where it was like four-year-old fat
[01:25:24] dudes who were like LARPing in the woods
[01:25:26] and now it's well
[01:25:28] I mean seriously now you're seeing guys
[01:25:30] like my age where it's like they're
[01:25:31] practicing small unit tactics reading
[01:25:33] Army Field manuals and the same is
[01:25:35] happening on the left where you know now
[01:25:37] you're seeing these antifa flags on
[01:25:38] plate carriers and ARS you saw it um one
[01:25:41] of those family-friendly drag shows uh
[01:25:44] there were armed antifa members outside
[01:25:46] pardon my pun do you feel like there's a
[01:25:49] turning point of no return where that
[01:25:51] militancy is it's there and there's no
[01:25:55] stepping back from it even if it is just
[01:25:57] a simmer that's a great question and I
[01:26:00] think it actually ties a lot of our
[01:26:01] themes here why is that happening it's
[01:26:03] happening because people can't blow off
[01:26:04] steam by speaking
[01:26:06] that's why when people can't speak they
[01:26:09] go through the next thing which is force
[01:26:10] that's what happens
[01:26:11] and so I mean look you people doing
[01:26:13] small unit tactics and stuff
[01:26:15] I mean look they feel as if they've been
[01:26:17] disenfranchised suppressed shut up
[01:26:19] censored smeared slandered that's what
[01:26:21] I'm not speaking for I don't know I'm
[01:26:23] generalizing right but if I were to meet
[01:26:25] them I guarantee they'd go up to the
[01:26:26] microphone he said why are you doing
[01:26:27] that well this this this this and this
[01:26:29] and then how do they get treated by
[01:26:30] their government and get treated by
[01:26:31] everybody they get called all the worst
[01:26:33] names in the world
[01:26:34] now I want to just make re-emphasize
[01:26:36] this you have to stay peaceful I am not
[01:26:38] a fan of going to force or conflict at
[01:26:40] all whatsoever at the same time I think
[01:26:43] it's important to add the context that
[01:26:45] if somebody's doing that we should ask
[01:26:46] the question why like why is it that
[01:26:49] there's a growth of malicious why Now
[01:26:51] CNN and the FBI because white supremacy
[01:26:54] okay shut up you're an idiot okay maybe
[01:26:56] it's because you're trying to always
[01:26:58] call them names and not allow them to
[01:27:00] talk and then you kick them off Twitter
[01:27:02] and kick them off Facebook and kick them
[01:27:04] off Google and then you take their kids
[01:27:06] and you want to put them on Loop run and
[01:27:08] you hyper radicalize them now I'm not
[01:27:10] I'm not justifying in any way violence
[01:27:13] or any of that but I think it is a
[01:27:15] teaching moment which is if you're going
[01:27:16] to keep on going the way we're going
[01:27:18] right now you've just seen the beginning
[01:27:20] of radicalism I don't want to go there
[01:27:21] and I don't you think you either I think
[01:27:23] it's actually really concerning how do
[01:27:25] you fix that speech
[01:27:27] leaders that listen to their voters
[01:27:30] like actually leaders are like oh wow my
[01:27:31] voters want me to do this so I'm going
[01:27:33] to do that
[01:27:34] therefore they don't feel so
[01:27:35] disconnected from their government like
[01:27:37] not raiding Mar-A-Lago like that would
[01:27:39] probably de-radicalize the country right
[01:27:42] they're probably going to indict Donald
[01:27:43] Trump can't imagine that's going to be a
[01:27:45] way to simmer down tensions right
[01:27:48] like oh yeah let's go and indict Donald
[01:27:50] Trump that's really going to calm down
[01:27:51] the temperature in the room we'll do the
[01:27:52] opposite they know that that's the final
[01:27:54] thing I'll say
[01:27:56] which is a little bit controversial I
[01:27:59] believe they want to stoke the flame of
[01:28:01] the militias
[01:28:03] I think they actually want an excuse to
[01:28:06] go full Patriot Act full anti-satum on
[01:28:10] us
[01:28:11] don't give them that excuse do not all
[01:28:14] of a sudden do something
[01:28:15] uncharacteristic violent forceful speech
[01:28:20] is all we have guys it goes from
[01:28:21] speaking to force there is no middle
[01:28:23] ground
[01:28:24] but I think that context is important
[01:28:26] instead of just preaching up here and
[01:28:28] acting as if you know every single one
[01:28:31] of those people that are doing that is
[01:28:33] happening because of white supremacy
[01:28:35] maybe it's because the regime has made
[01:28:37] it their goal to hate them
[01:28:39] God bless you thank you man thank you
[01:28:40] chief on the ATO thank you all right
[01:28:42] well we'll end with this so guys thank
[01:28:45] you again for being here tonight I want
[01:28:46] to thank our amazing Turning Point USA
[01:28:48] chapter you guys are terrific honestly
[01:28:50] speech is the answer and that's exactly
[01:28:52] what we did tonight and let it be uh
[01:28:54] told to all the collectivists and the
[01:28:56] authoritarians they tried to shut up
[01:28:58] turning point twice and the third time
[01:29:00] they failed miserably and that's a big
[01:29:02] deal God bless you guys God bless this
[01:29:04] University and thank you for all the
[01:29:06] help the police that made this happen
[01:29:07] God bless you guys thank you
[01:29:10] you better
[01:29:12] be broken
[01:29:14] I swear I live
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