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[00:00:00] All right, so we have some amazing [00:00:02] students that have joined us. We have [00:00:04] Haley Ron Canyon Delp Pro Club American [00:00:07] President Emma Arms University of [00:00:10] Tennessee Knoxville President Edward I'm [00:00:12] going to say this wrong Boi uh I believe [00:00:16] Minnesota Connection Academy and uh [00:00:18] Inenver Hills Community College and [00:00:20] Caroline Maddox University of Georgia [00:00:22] President. Welcome to the show to our [00:00:25] students. Hello there. [00:00:28] >> Hey, thank you. Hi, how's it going? [00:00:30] >> It's going great. Uh, we're So, listen, [00:00:32] we like to do these segments from time [00:00:34] to time because hearing from students is [00:00:37] really important. Get your perspective [00:00:39] on where you're at, what you're [00:00:40] thinking, what you're seeing. So, I'm [00:00:42] going to start with Edward. This is a [00:00:44] Minnesota Connection Academy at Inenver [00:00:46] Hills Community College. Um, and you [00:00:49] know, a lot of the news right now is [00:00:51] about ICE. It's about DHS, Minneapolis, [00:00:54] Minnesota. [00:00:56] Tell me what your thoughts are on, you [00:00:59] know, it would be Alex Prey. So, he's [00:01:01] he's packing firearm. He initiates an [00:01:05] altercation, a confrontation of some [00:01:07] sorts with law enforcement. Do you think [00:01:09] that's a good idea? What are kids [00:01:10] saying? What are you thinking? [00:01:13] >> Well, thank you, Andrew, for having me [00:01:15] on. I really appreciate and I appreciate [00:01:17] the question. Uh, simple answer, it's a [00:01:20] terrible idea to start an altercation [00:01:22] with a firearm on you. I recently turned [00:01:24] 18. I've been carrying [00:01:27] every day since that uh since my [00:01:30] birthday and I am never gonna pick a [00:01:33] fight with law enforcement with my [00:01:35] firearm on me. It's a terrible idea in [00:01:38] the first place cuz these people are the [00:01:40] good guys. They are the ones preserving [00:01:43] the cohesion of our society and [00:01:45] upholding law and order. [00:01:48] >> And [00:01:49] those are not the people that you should [00:01:52] be starting an altercation with. It's [00:01:54] going to be degr [00:01:57] of our republic. But then you add to [00:01:59] that the betrayal of your second [00:02:01] amendment liberties by putting law [00:02:04] enforcement in a situation where they [00:02:06] have to treat you as a greater threat [00:02:08] given that you have a firearm and you're [00:02:10] attempting to and actually creating a [00:02:16] escalated physical altercation. It's a [00:02:19] terrible idea all around and I was [00:02:21] disappointed to see that. Alex Prey [00:02:23] absolutely has a second amendment right [00:02:26] to keep and bear arms and a first [00:02:30] amendment right to peacefully assemble [00:02:32] and you can exercise both those rights [00:02:34] together but he betrayed those liberties [00:02:37] by starting an altercation with those [00:02:40] law enforcement officers. [00:02:42] >> Thank you. So I want to throw a question [00:02:44] here to Haley. Uh first of all thank you [00:02:46] for coming on. I know you have to be it [00:02:48] it can be very nerve-wracking I because [00:02:51] you're the you're the high schooler [00:02:52] here. So, you're at Canyon Del Oro in uh [00:02:54] the Tucson in Tucson, the Tucson area [00:02:56] and uh I'm told you've been seeing anti- [00:03:00] ice walkouts in your is it in your [00:03:03] school itself? You can tell me and then [00:03:05] that there's been I guess just describe [00:03:07] the environment in a high school setting [00:03:10] right now regarding ICE, regarding [00:03:12] walkouts, regarding immigration [00:03:14] generally. [00:03:16] >> Yeah, so our school personally has not [00:03:18] had a walk out yet. Um but there's [00:03:21] definitely like in a lot of other [00:03:22] schools those have happened just around [00:03:24] Tucson and Arizona um themsself and then [00:03:27] especially at my school co we just got [00:03:29] club America approved and it's been a [00:03:32] big issue um at school and everything [00:03:34] just things are super heightened and I [00:03:37] think a big issue right now just with [00:03:39] high school students is a lot of it [00:03:41] people are trying to frame it as civic [00:03:43] engagement when really it's more a lot [00:03:45] of what they're doing is just activism [00:03:47] without any understanding. So, a lot of [00:03:50] people are seeing this Club America, [00:03:51] this Instagram post that we posted, just [00:03:54] welcoming a new club, letting people um [00:03:56] be aware that this is happening. And [00:03:57] just the amount of just rude, uneducated [00:04:01] hate comments, DMs I've gotten, just [00:04:04] just the gossip around school of what's [00:04:06] going on. It's these people haven't even [00:04:07] given it a chance. They don't even know [00:04:10] really what this is about. We haven't [00:04:12] even had our first meeting yet. and all [00:04:13] these people are just giving so much [00:04:16] hate and they just don't even really [00:04:18] most of them are not even educated. They [00:04:20] don't even know what's going on. And so [00:04:21] I think that's just been a big issue is [00:04:23] a lot of just teachers and staff as well [00:04:26] just kind of empowering these students [00:04:28] um framing it, manipulating it as like [00:04:30] civic engagement when really I just [00:04:32] think it's just activism without any [00:04:34] understanding. [00:04:35] >> So is is it just is there any is the [00:04:38] school just overtly endorsing this? Are [00:04:40] the teachers all overtly endorsing it? [00:04:42] What's the I guess for lack of a better [00:04:43] term, what's the propaganda environment [00:04:45] like within your school? [00:04:46] >> Yeah, so I definitely a lot of issues [00:04:49] that even came with starting Club [00:04:50] America was actually through the [00:04:52] teachers. Um there were a lot of [00:04:53] teachers who I had conversations with um [00:04:57] that just were not on board with this [00:04:59] and are telling our students um just [00:05:01] that this is not this is like a hateful [00:05:03] thing that's going on. It's not [00:05:05] something that we should be having. So, [00:05:06] a lot of it definitely starts with our [00:05:08] staff and starts with our teachers and [00:05:10] just not even giving us as students our [00:05:12] own voice and our own opinion, but just [00:05:14] shutting it down because they're in a [00:05:15] position of authority. And a lot of [00:05:18] students like us, we we rely on those [00:05:20] teachers for grades and we have future [00:05:23] ahead of us for college. So, we really [00:05:24] don't want to upset the people who are [00:05:26] kind of hold that authority over us. So, [00:05:28] I think a lot of students are just [00:05:29] following what the staff what authority [00:05:32] is telling us. Um and so yeah, just [00:05:34] mainly with the staff just not allowing [00:05:36] us, just thinking it's a terrible thing. [00:05:38] I know Tucson Unified School District [00:05:41] even just sent out um a message, the [00:05:43] superintendent saying that they may have [00:05:45] to cancel school tomorrow because too [00:05:46] many teachers are calling out for this [00:05:49] um protest against ICE. Just things like [00:05:51] that where it's like really we have no [00:05:52] control over what's going on because [00:05:54] they hold the position. They hold the [00:05:56] authority at our schools. [00:05:57] >> Um Haley, I'm so, you know, I'm bummed [00:06:00] out to hear that. I'm sad for you. Um, [00:06:03] but I'm proud of you as well. I'm very [00:06:05] proud of you. So, keep up the good fight [00:06:08] and keep your courage. Um, but I want to [00:06:10] throw it to Pastor Andrew Cedric. Like, [00:06:12] maybe just give her a word of [00:06:13] encouragement as they're facing this [00:06:15] push back. [00:06:15] >> You guys are amazing. You guys are [00:06:17] fighting the good fight. You guys are [00:06:19] leading by conviction and courage just [00:06:22] like Charlie Kirk. We live in a moment [00:06:24] of time where the left doesn't multiply [00:06:25] in the bedroom. They multiply in the [00:06:27] classroom as they always do. And it is [00:06:29] very encouraging watching you guys stand [00:06:31] for your faith. Stand for your freedom [00:06:33] and actually be like Daniel, Shadrach, [00:06:36] Michigan, Abedo. Have faith in the midst [00:06:38] of a culture where young people are [00:06:40] fundamentally indoctrinated. Good job. [00:06:42] You guys are going to be very amazing [00:06:44] leaders that would change a world. The [00:06:46] fact that you're able to go against the [00:06:48] grain, not go with the next social [00:06:51] justice hype, it means that you have the [00:06:54] potential and the anointing and the gift [00:06:57] and the character to lead this nation to [00:07:00] a very very very great place. So I want [00:07:02] to encourage you and I do think we need [00:07:04] to kind of we need an investigation [00:07:06] across the West to the indoctrination of [00:07:07] young people. Right. Totally agree. [00:07:08] >> Because it's doesn't make sense. We've [00:07:10] we've observed, you know, in the wake of [00:07:12] Charlie's assassination, [00:07:14] and we've seen it now some comments made [00:07:16] about Steven Miller, about ICE agents. [00:07:19] It's public school teachers and nurses [00:07:21] and sometimes doctors. I don't know what [00:07:24] it is, but these just a lot of them. [00:07:26] >> There's two professions. There's just [00:07:28] Yeah, you might just be a sheer numbers [00:07:30] numbers game. [00:07:31] >> It's the liberal empathy, nurturing of [00:07:34] womanized type of roles going in the [00:07:36] wrong direction to think that your kid [00:07:38] is their kid. [00:07:39] >> Yeah. It's like I want my kid to learn [00:07:41] math and science, not gay agenda, [00:07:43] immigration and politics. And that's why [00:07:46] I think Charlie was murdered because he [00:07:48] was literally changing the mind [00:07:50] >> of us young people on this agenda. [00:07:53] >> I want to loop in our other two uh [00:07:54] chapter heads here or uh I believe [00:07:56] they're both chapter heads. I don't [00:07:57] know. So uh Caroline or or Emma here, [00:07:59] either of you can take this. Uh you guys [00:08:02] are on college campuses. We saw last [00:08:05] year there was a big swing of young [00:08:06] people more towards [00:08:09] sympathy towards Mega, towards President [00:08:11] Trump, towards the message Charlie was [00:08:12] selling. We also see some evidence in [00:08:14] the polls there might be a swing back. [00:08:16] They're very mercurial. And so I either [00:08:19] of you can take this. What is the [00:08:20] environment you're seeing on campus both [00:08:22] overall and within more conservative [00:08:25] spaces? How are those students reacting [00:08:28] to it? Do they seem braver than you [00:08:30] might have expected? Are they getting [00:08:32] intimidated like they might have been a [00:08:33] few years ago? [00:08:36] >> I don't think there's a lot of [00:08:37] intimidation here in Tennessee. Luckily [00:08:39] enough, we are a primarily conservative [00:08:41] campus at the University of Tennessee. [00:08:42] Um, and most of Tennessee also is red [00:08:45] throughout. Um, we don't see ICE [00:08:47] officers being shot in Nashville. We're [00:08:49] actually seeing dropping numbers of [00:08:50] murders in Memphis. And that's ma mainly [00:08:53] because we are a state that's not a [00:08:55] sanctuary state. We're not accepting um [00:08:58] migrants from uh illegal migrants to [00:09:01] stay and and and exist in our state uh [00:09:04] illegally. So the students however have [00:09:06] overwhelmingly let me know that they do [00:09:09] not support um having illegals in our [00:09:11] country. They are fully in support of [00:09:13] ICE. We do sometimes see some students [00:09:15] who sort of stay behind the screen that [00:09:17] would promote um you know attacking ICE, [00:09:20] but we haven't seen anything uh in [00:09:22] Knoxville or the greater Tennessee area [00:09:25] uh that would prove that. [00:09:29] >> And it's so Caroline as well, right? [00:09:32] University of Georgia. So, we got [00:09:33] Knoxville and Georgia. I love it. [00:09:36] >> Um, Athens is a little bit of a [00:09:38] different scene right now. Um, I think [00:09:41] we're um seeing a lot of walkouts from [00:09:43] classes, a lot of protests um in the [00:09:45] downtown area. Students are not taking [00:09:48] well to um the scene in Minneapolis [00:09:50] right now at all. Um we have a lot of [00:09:54] support for ICE as a club in general, [00:09:56] but outside of the club, there's not a [00:09:59] lot of support for ICE on this campus at [00:10:00] all. So, what pro like what are the what [00:10:03] messages are they hearing? Where are [00:10:04] they getting this information? Um, maybe [00:10:08] just fill in some of the gaps there. [00:10:09] What's influencing these these people? [00:10:12] >> It seems like most of the information is [00:10:14] coming from misinformation on social [00:10:15] media. They see the clip video, they [00:10:17] don't see the full video. Um, they see [00:10:19] kind of what they want to see instead of [00:10:21] actually seeing and learning and [00:10:23] educating themselves and doing the [00:10:25] research. Um, I think we've also painted [00:10:27] this picture of ICE for them or other [00:10:30] people have as this super evil [00:10:32] organization that's ripping children [00:10:34] from their homes and ripping families [00:10:36] apart. And that's just not the case. And [00:10:38] I think we really have to do a better [00:10:40] job of educating people on what ICE [00:10:42] actually is and what they're actually [00:10:44] doing. But I mean, the scene here is [00:10:46] really discouraging. But I would say [00:10:48] there's so much support on campus for [00:10:50] Charlie's legacy and a lot of people [00:10:52] have really started to want to get [00:10:54] involved after the passing of Charlie [00:10:55] Kerr and I it's truly inspiring and [00:10:58] there's a lot of work here to do, but [00:11:00] I'm I'm really glad to be at the [00:11:02] forefront of it and really blessed. [00:11:03] >> We got three college students and one [00:11:05] high school. Let's go around the horn [00:11:07] really quick. I want to start back with [00:11:08] you, Edward, and just if Okay, we've got [00:11:12] this is a midterm year, so you know, I'm [00:11:14] going to talk politics, but this is your [00:11:15] personal opinion. This is not C3 stuff, [00:11:17] but personal opinion. So, you're on [00:11:19] campus. If you had a word for the [00:11:21] administration heading into the midterms [00:11:24] or candidates that are running, what are [00:11:26] young kids what do they care about on [00:11:29] your campus? What what what could the [00:11:31] conservative movement do better right [00:11:32] now? [00:11:35] >> Awesome. Well, thank you for the [00:11:36] question. I think from what I've seen [00:11:39] and the people that I'm associating [00:11:40] with, it goes back to James Carville. [00:11:43] It's the economy stupid. We want to make [00:11:45] sure that the economy is strong going [00:11:48] into midterms. And then [00:11:52] that's that's pretty much the the [00:11:54] biggest issue going into midterms that [00:11:56] students want to [00:11:58] >> so it's strong. [00:11:59] >> It's jobs when you graduate kind of [00:12:02] thing. Internships, opportunities, [00:12:04] feeling like your degree is going to [00:12:05] matter kind of. [00:12:06] >> There's some worry about the AI bubble [00:12:09] and the potential for greater inflation [00:12:11] moving into midterms. So, if we could [00:12:15] put some assurance surrounding the [00:12:18] Federal Reserve and taxation and making [00:12:20] sure that inflation is going to remain [00:12:22] low, those are the core points that [00:12:26] students on campus uh in Minnesota that [00:12:30] I've interacted with are worrying about [00:12:31] right now. [00:12:32] >> Haley, what about your you high school [00:12:34] student? What's uh going into the [00:12:37] midterms? What what's the vibe? [00:12:39] >> Yeah. Um, I wouldn't even say really [00:12:41] that a lot of our students are even [00:12:42] educated enough to really care. I think [00:12:44] a lot of the um things that they're [00:12:46] talking about are just like things that [00:12:49] they're just hearing on the internet. [00:12:50] But I would say right now um in high [00:12:52] school especially is just immigration. [00:12:53] like what we've been seeing recently and [00:12:55] just how a bunch of us younger students [00:12:58] who may not be as educated are just [00:13:00] rejecting law enforcement and um I guess [00:13:02] how we can kind of push back on that and [00:13:04] how we can be educated on um you know [00:13:07] that we can be in support of legal [00:13:09] immigration and then also recognize that [00:13:11] fighting against law enforcement is not [00:13:14] the right thing to do and that [00:13:15] interfering with them doing their jobs [00:13:17] um is only going to create this chaos [00:13:19] that we're seeing and that really this [00:13:22] um these shootings things that are [00:13:24] happening um are not just one-sided and [00:13:26] that something something is going on [00:13:29] behind the scenes to kind of affect [00:13:31] what's going on in the immigration. [00:13:33] >> That's a good insight. That's a really [00:13:35] good insight. Um so Caroline, you're at [00:13:38] the University of Georgia and you said [00:13:39] there's all these like walkouts and a [00:13:41] lot of anti-ICE energy. I mean, [00:13:44] >> do they remember Lake and Riley at the [00:13:46] University of Georgia? Is she still some [00:13:49] a person that people are talking about [00:13:50] there? cuz I I wonder how they square [00:13:52] that circle or circle that. [00:13:54] >> That's exactly the question a lot of us [00:13:56] are asking right now at Turning Point. [00:13:58] Um they're actually organizing a 5K with [00:14:00] some other groups on campus. Um I think [00:14:03] it's called Run for Your Life. Um it's [00:14:04] going to be an awesome event. I believe [00:14:06] it's on February 21st, but it'll [00:14:08] definitely be on our socials. Um if [00:14:09] anyone's interested in that. Um yeah, I [00:14:12] I really don't know. I'm in shock. Also, [00:14:15] I mean, I don't know how we go from [00:14:16] seeing a a girl basically my age be [00:14:19] viciously murdered by an illegal [00:14:21] immigrant in our own city and then now [00:14:23] we're supporting people doing this kind [00:14:27] of thing to ICE agents who are just [00:14:28] trying to protect our country and [00:14:30] protect citizens of America. And I think [00:14:32] especially as a woman seeing that happen [00:14:34] to someone my age, it's frightening. And [00:14:37] I think we should be in support of [00:14:38] people who want to keep us safe from [00:14:40] that kind of thing. And I really think [00:14:42] that our campus is just in a real mess [00:14:45] and we have a lot of work to do still. [00:14:47] >> All right. Now, yeah, you, Emma, you're [00:14:49] you're last. What's the what is [00:14:51] dominating the midterm vibes among young [00:14:54] people in Knoxville? [00:14:57] >> Yeah. Well, kind of like Edward said, [00:14:58] talking about the economy, but more [00:15:00] specifically affordability for housing [00:15:01] and buying homes. I'm actually [00:15:03] graduating in the next semester and [00:15:05] looking into the the near future, it [00:15:07] kind of seems impossible to achieve that [00:15:09] American dream of be being a homeowner. [00:15:12] Um, and I think that that's a deeper [00:15:14] issue than a lot of people might uh [00:15:16] realize on the surface because you have [00:15:18] all these young people in America who [00:15:19] don't have uh they don't own anything. [00:15:21] They don't have stake in anything. And I [00:15:23] think that makes it difficult to um [00:15:25] really feel like you have ownership in [00:15:27] your country, that you're an actual [00:15:28] citizen of your country. Um, and to be [00:15:30] proud of your country when you feel like [00:15:32] everything is being, you know, taken by [00:15:35] different different taken from your [00:15:37] hands different ways. Um, I also think [00:15:39] that that also impacts the family, the [00:15:41] nuclear family. You can't raise three [00:15:44] kids in an apartment. Uh, that's just [00:15:45] not ideal. So, it does make it harder [00:15:48] for people to start families, continue [00:15:49] growing um our country. So, it is a [00:15:52] deeper issue than people realize. [00:15:53] >> Emma, I think that's great. And I just [00:15:55] wanted to say if you're just graduating, [00:15:57] you do have a a little time to, you [00:15:59] know, on the on the home buying and the [00:16:01] and that starting. But I but I don't [00:16:04] Yeah, don't panic yet. But the uh but [00:16:06] but your concern is legitimate and it's [00:16:08] and it's well it's well made. Um [00:16:10] >> President Trump just passed a very [00:16:12] awesome bill or law a few days ago where [00:16:15] he banned um big corporation [00:16:18] institutionally buying single family. [00:16:21] looking to he's [00:16:24] >> so that was I'm looking from Australia. [00:16:25] I'm like that's amazing that will free [00:16:28] the market for young people to actually [00:16:30] >> well and Charlie Charlie talked a lot [00:16:31] about an economic moonshot for Gen Z and [00:16:34] that is build five 10 million new homes [00:16:37] uh block institutional money block [00:16:39] foreign money make sure that it's open [00:16:41] to young young [00:16:42] >> buyers immigration so you don't [00:16:44] overwhelm the housing market supply and [00:16:46] demand [00:16:47] >> Exactly. Yeah. And and I think all of [00:16:49] these things are are are making we're [00:16:51] making good progress, but we're not [00:16:53] there yet. And I think these concerns [00:16:55] that you guys are voicing are are are [00:16:57] apt and they're really they're really [00:16:58] important. It was stuff Charlie talked [00:17:00] about. Uh, by the way, Blake, I don't [00:17:01] know if you have a follow-up here, but [00:17:03] we've got [00:17:03] >> I'm interested. I I wish we had a little [00:17:05] more time because I'd love to poke more [00:17:06] at that AI thing because I'm I'm very [00:17:07] fascinated by how young people relate to [00:17:10] artificial intelligence. [00:17:11] >> You remember you remember the last time [00:17:12] we did one of these, it was all about [00:17:13] H-1Bs. Mhm. [00:17:14] >> Do you guys talk about H-1Bs within the [00:17:17] club or within with on on in the chapter [00:17:21] >> for Minnesota specifically and at my [00:17:24] chapter? I know that we still discuss [00:17:25] that. We still discuss the avenues of [00:17:27] legal immigration. [00:17:29] >> Yeah. What about the ladies in the in [00:17:31] the panel? Because last time it was it [00:17:33] dominated our conversation. [00:17:36] I think we definitely have a mixed um [00:17:38] there's there's mixed views on whether [00:17:40] we should be uh having more or having [00:17:42] less or just leaving it the same. Uh [00:17:44] because there are pros and cons of [00:17:46] course to both. But I hear a lot of [00:17:47] different things from different [00:17:48] students. It just kind of depends. [00:17:50] Definitely a mix. [00:17:51] >> Yeah, AI with AI is going to be [00:17:54] >> I think about that a friend of mine, he [00:17:55] just said that kids at the campus he's [00:17:57] at, he works at a Christian ministry [00:17:59] there and he says they need AI to tell [00:18:01] them what questions to ask in class. And [00:18:04] no, that concept had not occurred to me [00:18:06] until I heard that and it filled me with [00:18:09] >> AI when I was in school. That would have [00:18:11] solved a lot of my problems. [00:18:12] >> The lack of critical thinking skills [00:18:14] though that that AI could give rise to [00:18:16] is terrifying. [00:18:17] >> Which is why we need all of you guys. Uh [00:18:19] we need to we need to fight against [00:18:21] group think on campus. Uh we made [00:18:23] progress last year, but it does it us [00:18:25] back over and over again. [00:18:26] >> Uh so we thank all of you for standing [00:18:29] guard in the permanent vigil for [00:18:31] liberty. [00:18:32] >> Yeah. Thank you guys. Thank you for [00:18:33] making the time. And um as you hear more [00:18:36] about walkouts as well, Haley, we want [00:18:38] to hear about those because in Phoenix [00:18:40] here, it's just it's going crazy. So, [00:18:43] >> not a good sign. Not a good sign. All [00:18:45] right. God bless you guys and stay safe [00:18:48] uh and stay vigilant. And we thank you [00:18:50] for all of your great service at Turning [00:18:52] Point chapters across the