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[00:00:00] Our greatest artists gather at the
[00:00:02] Grammys in order to reward one another
[00:00:04] and also to rip on President Trump and
[00:00:06] ICE. Plus, the Epstein files. Three and
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[00:00:56] right now. Well, folks, over the weekend
[00:00:58] we learned about a very powerful, very
[00:01:01] rich cadre of people who have inordinate
[00:01:04] control over the direction of our
[00:01:05] nation's politics. I'm talking, of
[00:01:07] course, about the Grammys. So, the
[00:01:08] Grammys were filled with our usual
[00:01:12] celebrity geniuses, spouting their usual
[00:01:14] performative politics to the cheers of
[00:01:17] their other fellow celebrities. And the
[00:01:19] reason I'm pointing this out, of course,
[00:01:21] is because if you wonder what the room
[00:01:22] is like, where people hash out what the
[00:01:24] culture ought to look like, it looks
[00:01:26] like the Grammys. It does. The thing
[00:01:28] about the Grammys and and so many of our
[00:01:30] award shows that are really fascinating
[00:01:31] is that it really is an inside look to
[00:01:35] the rest of the world at what these
[00:01:36] people actually talk like at dinner
[00:01:38] parties. And I know a lot of the people
[00:01:40] who are in Hollywood. I've I've spoken
[00:01:42] with many of them. I've been at parties
[00:01:43] with some of them. And their parties
[00:01:45] look like the Grammys. this performative
[00:01:47] self- congratulatory nonsense far too
[00:01:50] often is people patting themselves on
[00:01:51] the back for their performative version
[00:01:53] of the most extreme radical politics in
[00:01:56] our society. And that's why we are also
[00:01:59] annoyed when it shows up on our TV
[00:02:01] because typically when people tune into
[00:02:02] the Grammys or the Oscars or any other
[00:02:05] award show, what they expect is a
[00:02:07] celebration of the culture that we all
[00:02:09] share, the music that we all enjoy. And
[00:02:11] instead what they usually get is a
[00:02:13] cocktail party punctuated by some people
[00:02:16] holding up a trophy. And those people do
[00:02:19] share a lifestyle. They are the most
[00:02:21] protected wealthy people in our society.
[00:02:24] And the people who share that lifestyle
[00:02:25] are people who tend to share their
[00:02:27] politics. And now they're sharing that
[00:02:28] politics with you, the little people.
[00:02:32] And so last night at the Grammys, pretty
[00:02:34] much every performer decided that they
[00:02:36] were going to lead by ripping into ICE.
[00:02:39] Immigration and Customs Enforcement
[00:02:41] ripping the Trump administration. Now,
[00:02:43] obviously, there are other things going
[00:02:44] on in the world. And just a year or two
[00:02:46] ago, pretty much everybody at the
[00:02:47] Grammys was speaking up about the
[00:02:50] supposed evils of the Israeli Defense
[00:02:52] Forces in the Gaza Strip. Now, of
[00:02:55] course, the Iranian government has been
[00:02:56] mowing down protesters perhaps by the
[00:02:59] tens of thousands. Not a single word
[00:03:00] about that at the Grammys last night,
[00:03:01] but lots of words for Immigration and
[00:03:04] Customs Enforcement doing its job in
[00:03:06] Minneapolis.
[00:03:07] So, for example, Bad Bunny, that's not
[00:03:10] his real name, I assume. I guess his
[00:03:13] real name is Benito Antonio Martinez
[00:03:15] Okazio.
[00:03:17] He is nominated for six Grammys
[00:03:20] for his latest album and he's supposed
[00:03:21] to perform at the Super Bowl apparently
[00:03:23] wearing a dress, which is exactly what
[00:03:24] you want, right? If you're showing your
[00:03:26] 9-year-old boy the Super Bowl, you know,
[00:03:29] where men are men and where athletic
[00:03:32] performance and grit and determination
[00:03:35] and heart, those are the keys to
[00:03:36] victory. What you want is during
[00:03:37] halftime a dude gallivanting around in
[00:03:40] ladies garments. Well, he won an award
[00:03:44] for his album and he proceeded to rip
[00:03:47] into ice, which is precisely what we
[00:03:49] need to hear from this human.
[00:03:54] >> Before I say
[00:03:56] thanks to God,
[00:03:59] I'm going to say
[00:04:01] eyes out.
[00:04:05] We're not He did it. He did it, guys.
[00:04:07] >> We're not animals. We're not aliens. We
[00:04:10] are humans. And we are Americans.
[00:04:16] >> Um,
[00:04:18] also I want to say to the people, I know
[00:04:22] it's is tough to know, not to hate on
[00:04:27] these days. And I was thinking
[00:04:31] sometime we get
[00:04:36] contaminados. I don't know how to say
[00:04:37] that in English.
[00:04:40] Um
[00:04:43] the hate get more powerful with more
[00:04:47] hate. The only thing that is more
[00:04:50] powerful than hate is love.
[00:04:54] >> Wow. Deep words. Love is more powerful
[00:04:58] than hate. Wow. That that is that is
[00:05:00] some deep verbiage. I can see why he is
[00:05:02] such an acclaimed songwriter and
[00:05:05] performer. And also, it turns out
[00:05:07] there's no such thing as an illegal
[00:05:08] immigrant. Now, he is a US citizen
[00:05:10] because he's Puerto Rican. Uh I'm not
[00:05:11] sure what that has to do with ICE out,
[00:05:14] but you can hear the applause in the
[00:05:15] room. He did it. He solved the problem.
[00:05:19] I I love that celebrities really believe
[00:05:21] that they are like Michael Scott in the
[00:05:23] office. They can walk into the middle of
[00:05:24] a room, shout, "I declare bankruptcy,"
[00:05:27] and it is legally effective. You're
[00:05:30] right, celebrities. If you go into a
[00:05:32] room with all of your fellow celebrities
[00:05:33] protected by armed security outside
[00:05:36] where every single human who comes into
[00:05:38] that arena has to have their background
[00:05:40] checked, that you can sit there and tell
[00:05:43] the rest of America that actually no
[00:05:45] protection is available to them. Billy
[00:05:46] Isish, who I'm sure has not only armed
[00:05:48] security but apparently a palatial
[00:05:50] estate surrounded by offense because she
[00:05:52] has stalker problems. She says that
[00:05:54] there is no nobody is illegal on stolen
[00:05:57] land. And by stolen land, I assume she
[00:05:59] means all of planet Earth since
[00:06:00] populations have been moving since
[00:06:02] legitimately the beginning of recorded
[00:06:04] human history. She says nobody is
[00:06:06] illegal on stolen land. So I guess party
[00:06:10] at Billy Isish's house Friday night. Is
[00:06:12] that how this works? Okay, here we No
[00:06:14] one is illegal on stolen land.
[00:06:17] [cheering]
[00:06:21] >> Oh my gosh. I'm Sabrina Carpenter. Oh.
[00:06:25] [applause]
[00:06:25] >> Oh, and lady wearing the peacock on her
[00:06:27] head. I don't know who that is.
[00:06:30] >> Yeah, it's just really hard to know what
[00:06:32] to say and what to do right now.
[00:06:35] >> It is. It's so hard. I mean, if only you
[00:06:37] were in a profession where that was
[00:06:39] literally your job. Billy Isish. I will
[00:06:41] say she looks significantly less unhappy
[00:06:43] since she started dating a dude. I mean,
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[00:07:57] Olivia Dean also decided it was time to
[00:07:59] rip into ice. So here she was. I mean
[00:08:03] again look at the bravery of these
[00:08:04] people. They all think alike. They all
[00:08:06] act alike. They all have similar
[00:08:08] lifestyles. And they are speaking to you
[00:08:10] the little people. You know the people
[00:08:12] who don't have armed security at your
[00:08:14] palatial estates while people pay you
[00:08:16] millions upon millions of dollars to
[00:08:18] sing songs written by a large codery of
[00:08:21] other people. You need to hear their
[00:08:23] voices. You need to hear their words.
[00:08:25] These are the taste makers. These are
[00:08:27] the people who shape the culture in
[00:08:28] which your children grow up.
[00:08:32] And I guess I want to say I'm up here as
[00:08:34] a granddaughter of an immigrant. I
[00:08:36] wouldn't be here.
[00:08:40] >> Wow.
[00:08:41] Huge. Big news. Huge of truth.
[00:08:44] >> Yeah. I'm a product of bravery and I
[00:08:46] think those people deserve to be
[00:08:47] celebrated.
[00:08:53] >> I mean, so we're celebrating your your
[00:08:55] grandpar. I mean, I'm just going to
[00:08:57] point out a huge percentage of Americans
[00:09:00] have ancestors who came here at some
[00:09:03] point, like pretty much all Americans.
[00:09:06] And and therefore, this means what? We
[00:09:09] have to have an open border. Or that if
[00:09:11] you came during Joe Biden's open border
[00:09:13] and took advantage of our welfare
[00:09:14] systems, you have to stay. or that if
[00:09:16] ICE has a deportation order, they're
[00:09:18] supposed to ignore it because your
[00:09:19] grandparents, I assume, came here
[00:09:21] legally 60, 70 years ago
[00:09:24] to take Gloria Stefan showed up as well
[00:09:28] and um and talked about how basically
[00:09:31] this is like the Holocaust, which again,
[00:09:33] people stop stop doing Holocaust
[00:09:36] analogies that are totally inapp.
[00:09:39] I'm not against a properly drawn
[00:09:41] Holocaust analogy, but you have to
[00:09:43] actually find an analog. You can't just
[00:09:45] compare things to the Holocaust. You
[00:09:47] can't. I'm sorry. ICE picking up
[00:09:49] individually illegal immigrants and
[00:09:50] sending them back to their home
[00:09:51] countries is not the same as an entire
[00:09:56] war infrastructure set up to
[00:09:58] systematically murder millions of people
[00:10:00] of a particular race. Turns out that's
[00:10:02] not the same thing like at all. And
[00:10:05] also, you know what's not similar?
[00:10:07] America to Nazi Germany. Because you
[00:10:08] know what you didn't see in the middle
[00:10:10] of World War II or the Nazi era? What
[00:10:13] you didn't see was a bunch of artists
[00:10:14] getting up on red carpets talking about
[00:10:16] how terrible the Nazis were in Berlin.
[00:10:18] Wasn't the thing that was happening very
[00:10:19] often. Now, here's Gloria Estfan.
[00:10:23] >> I have been very vocal about the fact
[00:10:26] that I'm scared of what I'm seeing in
[00:10:27] this country. I've been living here for
[00:10:29] decades. This is not the place that I
[00:10:31] grew up in. We need to all stand up. In
[00:10:34] college, I took literature of the
[00:10:36] Holocaust and the biggest lesson that I
[00:10:38] learned was that silence is our biggest
[00:10:40] enemy. We all have to stand together and
[00:10:43] say that we okay we agree that the
[00:10:46] border has to be secured but this is not
[00:10:48] what's happening. People families are
[00:10:51] being torn apart. Children hundreds of
[00:10:53] children are in detention and and in
[00:10:56] horrible conditions. I have personal
[00:10:58] experience with people in my circle that
[00:11:01] their loved ones have been taken away
[00:11:03] and have been months in detention for no
[00:11:05] reason because they haven't been
[00:11:07] deported. They haven't done anything. So
[00:11:09] no, we we need to stand up and we need
[00:11:11] to vote and show our political and
[00:11:14] economic power.
[00:11:16] >> Wow. And inspiring inspiring stuff. And
[00:11:20] then of course Trevor Noah, it amazes me
[00:11:22] what a great country where an immigrant
[00:11:24] like Trevor Noah can really make good
[00:11:26] despite having legitimately zero talent.
[00:11:28] It's a pretty impressive feat. Well,
[00:11:30] Trevor Noah hosted the Grammys where he
[00:11:33] was his usual smart meet, obnoxious self
[00:11:36] and he dissed Nicki Minaj and he dissed
[00:11:39] President Trump, suggesting that
[00:11:41] President Trump was part of the Epstein
[00:11:42] scandal and all the rest of it. Uh, here
[00:11:44] he was dissing Nicki Minaj for the great
[00:11:46] sin of having gone to the White House to
[00:11:48] promote the Trump accounts which of
[00:11:50] course are savings accounts being set up
[00:11:51] for American children which according to
[00:11:52] Trevor No, I guess is a bad thing.
[00:11:56] every single person here. John Legend,
[00:11:58] Billy Alish, Phineas, Nicki Minaj is not
[00:12:00] here. She is not here. [cheering]
[00:12:03] Um,
[00:12:05] she is
[00:12:08] she is still at the White House with
[00:12:10] Donald Trump discussing very important
[00:12:12] issues. Actually, Nikki, I have the
[00:12:15] biggest ass. I have it. Everybody's
[00:12:17] saying it, Nikki. I know they say it's
[00:12:18] you, but it's me. Look at
[00:12:21] it. Look at it, baby.
[00:12:24] Um I I love that all the people there
[00:12:27] are cheering when he's like Nicki Minaj
[00:12:28] is over at the White House discussing
[00:12:29] serious issues as though they are there
[00:12:31] discussing serious issues, right? Their
[00:12:33] version of discussing a serious issue is
[00:12:35] they sing songs that are overproduced
[00:12:37] and autotuned and then they go on a
[00:12:38] stage and pretend they know something
[00:12:40] about policy. That's their serious
[00:12:41] discussion. Well, he he went out of his
[00:12:43] way, Trevor Noah, to drop some sort of
[00:12:45] joke about Epstein Island and Trump and
[00:12:47] suggest that Trump has been to Epstein
[00:12:48] Island and that the reason he wants
[00:12:50] Greenland is because he wants his own
[00:12:51] Epstein Island with Bill Clinton. And
[00:12:53] President Trump then went on Truth
[00:12:55] Social and threatened to sue Trevor Noah
[00:12:58] because we live in an alternative
[00:12:59] timeline. Quote, "The Grammy Awards are
[00:13:01] the worst. Virtually unwatchable." So
[00:13:03] far, so true. CBS is lucky not to have
[00:13:06] this garbage litter their airwaves any
[00:13:07] longer. The host, Trevor Noah, whoever
[00:13:09] he may be, is almost as bad as Jimmy
[00:13:11] Kimmel at the Low Ratings Academy
[00:13:13] Awards. Noah said incorrectly about me
[00:13:15] that Donald Trump and Bill Clinton spend
[00:13:16] time on Epstein Island. Wrong. I can't
[00:13:18] speak for Bill, but I have never been to
[00:13:20] Epstein Island, nor anywhere close. And
[00:13:21] until tonight's false and defamatory
[00:13:23] statement, have never been accused of
[00:13:24] being there, not even by the fake news
[00:13:26] media. Noah, a total loser, better get
[00:13:29] his facts straight and get them straight
[00:13:30] fast. It looks like I'll be sending my
[00:13:32] lawyers to sue this poor, pathetic,
[00:13:33] talentless, dope of an MC and suing him
[00:13:35] for plenty. Dollar sign. Ask little
[00:13:37] George Sllapadopoulos and others how
[00:13:39] that all worked out. Also, ask CBS, "Get
[00:13:41] ready, Noah. I'm gonna have some fun
[00:13:42] with you, President Donald J. Trump."
[00:13:45] Yes, this is the world that we now
[00:13:46] inhabit. Now, why is any of this really
[00:13:49] important? Well, I mean, it is important
[00:13:50] because when you have all the cultural
[00:13:53] taste makers who are all pushing the
[00:13:54] same politics, that is likely to seep
[00:13:56] out into the broader culture and
[00:13:59] sometimes that can go viral and turn
[00:14:02] into a brainworm that sort of eats the
[00:14:04] American body politic. He saw this, for
[00:14:06] example, with the trans issue pushed by
[00:14:08] every cultural arbiter in American
[00:14:09] society. And for solidly a decade, this
[00:14:12] was promoted as the way to decide
[00:14:14] whether a person was virtuous or not,
[00:14:16] whether they were willing to say that a
[00:14:17] boy could be a girl and a girl could be
[00:14:19] a boy. So it does make a difference when
[00:14:21] the entire cultural apparatus mobilizes
[00:14:23] behind a thing. But there is something
[00:14:24] else here that is worthy of note also,
[00:14:27] and that is celebrities,
[00:14:30] they have their own social circle, and
[00:14:31] that social circle tends to mirror
[00:14:33] itself. It in fact is a hallway of
[00:14:36] mirrors. You're not welcome in a lot of
[00:14:38] these social circles if you have a
[00:14:40] different politics.
[00:14:42] It you don't go to the cool kid parties,
[00:14:43] right? The story of Hollywood in its
[00:14:47] most depraved form writ small would be
[00:14:50] the Diddy White parties. That is
[00:14:52] Hollywood in its most depraved form
[00:14:54] written small. That's like kind of a
[00:14:56] microcosm of what Hollywood is. It's the
[00:14:59] most extreme version of what's happening
[00:15:01] in that cultural millu
[00:15:04] and I think that is probably the best
[00:15:06] way to see the Jeffrey Epstein story as
[00:15:08] well. So a lot of people are looking for
[00:15:11] the connection between the Jeffrey
[00:15:13] Epstein story, the saga, the details
[00:15:15] that are now coming out and what that
[00:15:18] means about quote unquote who runs our
[00:15:19] world. Now there are a lot of very
[00:15:22] powerful people whose names have been
[00:15:24] mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein
[00:15:26] scandal. People who are hanging out,
[00:15:28] hobnobbing with Jeffrey Epste, people
[00:15:30] who are asking dating advice like Lauren
[00:15:31] Summers, former president of Harvard, or
[00:15:34] people who are apparently soliciting
[00:15:35] visits to Epstein parties or whom Epste
[00:15:38] was soliciting to go to his parties,
[00:15:40] including people like Elon Musk.
[00:15:42] Obviously, Jeffrey Epste was friendly
[00:15:43] with Bill Clinton. There was a time
[00:15:45] early on in his life earlier when he was
[00:15:47] friendly with Donald Trump. All of that
[00:15:49] is true. Now the leap that some people
[00:15:52] are making is that this means that
[00:15:54] Epstein was manipulating all of these
[00:15:56] powerful people through blackmail with
[00:15:57] regard to sex. That is not in evidence.
[00:15:59] If that turns out to be an evidence,
[00:16:02] then we will happily report on it. That
[00:16:04] is not what so far has come out. And the
[00:16:06] reason I'm making this distinction is
[00:16:08] because it is in fact a deeply important
[00:16:11] thing that some of the most powerful
[00:16:12] people in our society act in morally
[00:16:15] depraved ways, godless, virtuefree ways,
[00:16:18] hanging out with some of the worst
[00:16:20] people in our society, people they know
[00:16:21] to be trafficking in women who are very,
[00:16:24] very young, if not in minors. When it
[00:16:27] comes to Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, what
[00:16:30] was criminally indicted was the
[00:16:31] trafficking of underage girls for
[00:16:33] Epstein's own use. There have yet to be
[00:16:35] legally verifiable allegations that
[00:16:38] girls who are underage were traffic to
[00:16:40] people who are not Jeffrey Epstein or by
[00:16:41] Golain Maxwell to people not Jeffrey
[00:16:44] Epstein. That does not mean the story is
[00:16:46] unimportant. The story is still
[00:16:48] important because it exposes again the
[00:16:50] cultural malu in which too many elitists
[00:16:53] in our society, people who control
[00:16:54] others get together, formulate their
[00:16:57] values, hang out and decide what they
[00:17:00] think is right, good and true.
[00:17:03] So over the weekend on Friday, the
[00:17:06] Department of Justice announced the
[00:17:07] release of some three and a half million
[00:17:09] pages of Epstein documents. Now I will
[00:17:11] say that I think that the way these
[00:17:13] documents were released, it appears not
[00:17:15] to be particularly smart. It turns out,
[00:17:18] for example, that a huge number of names
[00:17:21] of the Epstein victims were exposed,
[00:17:22] which is illegal. You are not supposed
[00:17:24] to do that. That was originally the
[00:17:25] reason why the DOJ did not release these
[00:17:28] gigantic trenches of documents because
[00:17:29] they had not done the proper redactions.
[00:17:31] And as it turns out, they actually
[00:17:33] didn't do the thing they were supposed
[00:17:35] to do. According to the Wall Street
[00:17:36] Journal, the Justice Department exposed
[00:17:38] the names of dozens of Jeffrey Epstein's
[00:17:40] victims, including many who haven't
[00:17:41] shared their identities publicly or were
[00:17:43] minors when they were abused by the
[00:17:44] notorious sex offender. A review of 47
[00:17:46] victims full names on Sunday found that
[00:17:48] 43 of them were left unredacted in files
[00:17:50] that were made public by the government
[00:17:52] on Friday. According to a Wall Street
[00:17:53] Journal analysis, several women's full
[00:17:55] names appeared more than 100 times in
[00:17:57] the file. The Justice Department was
[00:17:59] required to redact all victim's names
[00:18:01] prior to releasing the files.
[00:18:03] Apparently, there were there was one
[00:18:06] minor victim who was mentioned over 160
[00:18:10] times in the file. So, that's bad and
[00:18:13] that is a bad job by the DOJ.
[00:18:16] It is also true that because an enormous
[00:18:19] amount of this is sort of raw data that
[00:18:21] was taken in by the FBI, a huge amount
[00:18:25] of the stuff that is now being
[00:18:26] trafficked online is unverified,
[00:18:28] unverifiable or from the tip line. That
[00:18:30] that is the reality. So for example,
[00:18:32] people going after President Trump and
[00:18:33] suggesting that Trump is in the files.
[00:18:35] So, the DOJ had a document August 7th,
[00:18:38] 2025 with the various mentions of
[00:18:41] President Trump in the
[00:18:45] National Threat Operations Center tip
[00:18:47] line. Now, here's the problem. The
[00:18:49] National Threat Operations Center tip
[00:18:51] line receives somewhere between 3,000
[00:18:54] and 45,500 calls or electronic tips per
[00:18:56] day. Many report secondhand information.
[00:19:01] Most claims, I think I believe all
[00:19:03] claims at this point when they are taken
[00:19:05] in are unverified, right? It takes
[00:19:06] further investigation to verify them.
[00:19:07] So, you've seen people on the left run
[00:19:09] around and say, "President Trump is
[00:19:11] alleged to have forced a an underage
[00:19:14] girl, 13, 14 years old to perform oral
[00:19:16] sex." Well, it turns out
[00:19:18] that that is totally unverified. They
[00:19:20] they tried to run it down. They were
[00:19:21] unable to substantiate it.
[00:19:24] There is another complaint suggesting
[00:19:27] that a caller said that at age 16, she
[00:19:30] attended eight parties at Epstein's New
[00:19:31] York residence and on one occasion
[00:19:33] reported she was sexually assault by
[00:19:35] Epstein
[00:19:36] and then suggested also that there was a
[00:19:40] party involving a number of famous
[00:19:42] people including Bill Clinton and Donald
[00:19:44] Trump and that she was a victim and
[00:19:46] witness to a sex trafficking ring at the
[00:19:47] Trump golf course in Ranchos Palace
[00:19:49] Verdice in California.
[00:19:51] Well, the FBI actually spoke to that
[00:19:52] person and the complainant was spoken to
[00:19:54] and deemed not credible and the person
[00:19:57] had had several mandatory psychiatric
[00:19:59] evaluations.
[00:20:01] So, there there are lots of claims that
[00:20:03] are like this in these files and trying
[00:20:04] to actually run down the source of the
[00:20:05] claims is really important because one
[00:20:07] of the things that happens in internet
[00:20:09] land is people will take unverified
[00:20:11] salacious allegations that have not been
[00:20:12] run down by the FBI. They will then run
[00:20:14] those through the internet machine and
[00:20:16] suddenly this becomes likely probable
[00:20:18] truth. Well, you actually have to run
[00:20:20] down each specific allegation in the 3
[00:20:23] and a half million pages of data before
[00:20:25] you run with the it's definitely true or
[00:20:27] it's verified or this is the reason why
[00:20:29] policy XY or Z happened. And this is
[00:20:32] just a call for evidence. And if the
[00:20:34] evidence shows what people want it to
[00:20:36] show, and I really believe that. I think
[00:20:38] there are a lot of people who want this
[00:20:39] evidence to show that in fact the
[00:20:41] Jeffrey Epstein pedophilic sex ring has
[00:20:43] been running all of global politics for
[00:20:45] years because that is a comforting
[00:20:47] thought for a lot of people about the
[00:20:49] nature of how politics works that
[00:20:51] actually there is a codery of people who
[00:20:53] are very sophisticated who are running
[00:20:54] everything in American public life and
[00:20:57] and those people are are being linked by
[00:20:59] pedophilic sex orgies and all this kind
[00:21:01] of stuff.
[00:21:02] There there's a there's a large swath of
[00:21:04] people for whom this idea is appealing.
[00:21:06] The evidence is not there. If the
[00:21:07] evidence presents itself, we will be
[00:21:10] happy to cover it. The evidence is not
[00:21:12] there. There is evidence that there are
[00:21:13] a lot of perves who hung out with
[00:21:15] Jeffrey Epste and that Jeffrey Epste
[00:21:16] appealed to those perves with largely
[00:21:19] 26-year-old Russian models. And there's
[00:21:22] a lot of evidence that Jeffrey Epste
[00:21:23] never should have been in those circles
[00:21:24] and that these perves are perfectly
[00:21:25] happy to hang out with Jeffrey Epste and
[00:21:27] greenlight his criminal activities with
[00:21:29] a wink and a nod because they themselves
[00:21:33] hang out in those circles. This is why I
[00:21:35] liken this to the diddy white parties.
[00:21:37] In any case, here is Deputy AG Todd
[00:21:39] Blanch announcing the release of three
[00:21:40] and a half million pages.
[00:21:45] Today, we are producing more than 3
[00:21:48] million pages, including more than 2,000
[00:21:51] videos and 180,000 images.
[00:21:56] In total, that means that the department
[00:21:58] produced approximately 3 and a half
[00:22:00] million pages in compliance with the
[00:22:02] act.
[00:22:05] Okay. He went on to explain that the
[00:22:08] excluded files included pornography,
[00:22:10] victim's personal ID, and active
[00:22:12] investigations.
[00:22:15] The c the categories of documents
[00:22:17] withheld include those permitted under
[00:22:19] the act to be withheld. Files that
[00:22:21] contain personal personally identified
[00:22:23] information of victims or victim's
[00:22:25] personal and medical files and similar
[00:22:28] files the disclosure of which would
[00:22:29] constitute a clearly unwarranted
[00:22:31] invasion of personal privacy. Any
[00:22:34] depiction of CSAM or child pornography
[00:22:38] was obviously excluded. anything that
[00:22:40] would jeopardize an active federal
[00:22:41] investigation.
[00:22:44] And finally, anything that depicts or
[00:22:46] contain images of death, physical abuse,
[00:22:48] or injury, also not produced. Although
[00:22:52] the Although the act allows for
[00:22:54] withholding for items necessary to keep
[00:22:56] secret in the interest of national
[00:22:57] security or foreign policy, no files are
[00:23:00] being withheld or redacted on that
[00:23:03] basis.
[00:23:04] >> Okay. Blanch went on to blast people
[00:23:06] accusing the DOJ of somehow covering for
[00:23:08] or supporting pedophiles. He says,
[00:23:10] "Listen, it's our job to prosecute
[00:23:11] crimes when we can uncover evidence of
[00:23:13] the crimes. It is not our job to pretend
[00:23:15] that every tip that comes into the
[00:23:17] National Center is is somehow credible,
[00:23:20] verifiable, or prosecutable." Over the
[00:23:24] past um several months, last summer and
[00:23:26] into the fall, we executed Operation
[00:23:28] Restore Justice, rescuing 205 child
[00:23:32] victims and arresting 293 offenders. I
[00:23:35] point this out because I take umbrage at
[00:23:37] the suggestion,
[00:23:39] which is totally false, that the
[00:23:41] attorney general or this department does
[00:23:44] not take child exploitation or sex
[00:23:46] trafficking seriously or that we somehow
[00:23:49] do not want to protect victims. We do.
[00:23:53] There are some select members of
[00:23:55] Congress and some in the public eye,
[00:23:57] including those most critical of our
[00:24:00] efforts at full transparency under the
[00:24:02] act, who remain silent as to all the
[00:24:05] work that we have done and continue to
[00:24:07] do every day in this space.
[00:24:12] The deputy AG Todd Blanch continued. He
[00:24:14] said, "A lot of these claims are
[00:24:16] basically uninvestigatable." This is him
[00:24:18] on CNN with Dana Bash who's asking, you
[00:24:20] know, was full investigation done? Like
[00:24:21] a lot of this is just kind of like raw
[00:24:23] material that's being called from people
[00:24:25] who may not be particularly credible.
[00:24:29] >> Did you look into what you have on those
[00:24:32] lists?
[00:24:34] >> Yes, of course. But no, but what you
[00:24:36] you're not being fair in that question
[00:24:37] because that that that index that list
[00:24:40] you're talking about was not just
[00:24:41] President Trump. It was all kinds of
[00:24:43] individuals um other politicians, other
[00:24:46] quote famous people where where we
[00:24:48] wanted to understand. Okay. there were
[00:24:50] members of Congress that were accusing
[00:24:52] us of hiding things which we're not
[00:24:54] doing and which we haven't done. And so
[00:24:56] we wanted to understand why and where
[00:24:58] that was coming from. And it turns out
[00:24:59] there was a number of of claims made by
[00:25:03] either like I said anonymous people or
[00:25:05] somebody for example calling and saying,
[00:25:07] "I used to have a roommate who told me
[00:25:09] this sensational story." So just, you
[00:25:11] know, obviously that's not something
[00:25:13] that can be really investigated, right?
[00:25:15] What's your roommate's name? I don't
[00:25:16] remember.
[00:25:17] >> Right? So that that's what that's about.
[00:25:18] I I don't appreciate it being directed
[00:25:21] towards Donald J. Trump because that
[00:25:23] that pushes a narrative that is
[00:25:24] completely false. It's there are all
[00:25:26] kinds of people that are mentioned in in
[00:25:28] the the quote Epstein files that that we
[00:25:31] had to to look at and run down.
[00:25:32] >> Yeah. No, I understand. He is the only
[00:25:35] sitting president uh who who were
[00:25:36] talking about. I do want to move on.
[00:25:40] >> And Blanch did continue by saying,
[00:25:41] "Listen, there's nothing prosecutable in
[00:25:43] a lot of these documents. The document
[00:25:45] release is not performative, but you
[00:25:47] guys wanted sort of the raw data. Here's
[00:25:49] the raw data.
[00:25:52] >> In July, the Department of Justice said
[00:25:54] that we had reviewed the files, the
[00:25:56] quote Epstein files, and there was
[00:25:58] nothing in there that allowed us to
[00:26:00] prosecute anybody. We then released over
[00:26:03] three and a half million pieces of
[00:26:04] paper, which the entire world can look
[00:26:06] at now and and see if we got it wrong.
[00:26:09] And and so it's not performative, and I
[00:26:11] I respectfully disagree with that
[00:26:13] statement. we were ordered to do so by
[00:26:14] by Congress and then by by the president
[00:26:16] of the United States and and that's what
[00:26:18] we did. And and let me you know I said
[00:26:21] it on Friday um this this justice
[00:26:23] department, the FBI, DHS, we have gone
[00:26:26] after more sex traffickers, more uh
[00:26:29] child pornographers, more men who have
[00:26:31] done harm to children and and young
[00:26:33] women than any administration in
[00:26:35] history. And so we need to separate
[00:26:37] those two ideas. the fact that there's
[00:26:39] the Epstein files and whether there's
[00:26:41] anybody there that we can go after and
[00:26:43] the work that we are doing every day,
[00:26:44] which is extraordinary and and we will
[00:26:47] continue to do that.
[00:26:49] >> And again, he he keeps pointing out over
[00:26:51] and over and over that the people who
[00:26:53] are suggesting a cover up by the DOJ,
[00:26:56] they don't have any evidence of a cover
[00:26:57] up. And it's kind of absurd. Here is
[00:26:58] Blanch saying that Thomas Massie, Chuck
[00:27:00] Schumer, they're making accusations they
[00:27:01] can't substantiate.
[00:27:04] leadership on the on the Hill, uh,
[00:27:05] Congressman Massie, Senator Schumer are
[00:27:08] quick to complain. There is no way they
[00:27:12] have spent any time looking at the
[00:27:14] materials we produce because I know the
[00:27:16] materials we produce. We produce them on
[00:27:17] Friday. By Saturday, they're already
[00:27:20] complaining about what we did. And by
[00:27:22] the way, apparently, uh, Massie and
[00:27:24] others wrote a letter to come and review
[00:27:26] unredacted materials. I didn't get that
[00:27:29] letter yet. They leaked it to the press
[00:27:31] before they actually sent it to me. But
[00:27:33] yeah, that's absolutely totally fine. We
[00:27:35] have nothing to hide. We have nothing to
[00:27:38] hide. We never did. And and our doors
[00:27:40] are open if they want to come and review
[00:27:42] any of the materials that we produced.
[00:27:45] Now, it is true again, this is a a
[00:27:48] gigantic wasteland in terms of the
[00:27:50] amount of just raw sewage that's there.
[00:27:52] A lot of tips that are unverifiable, a
[00:27:54] lot of data that you can't track down.
[00:27:56] MS now says the files are basically
[00:27:58] impossible to sort through. that that of
[00:28:00] course is not a surprise. When you have
[00:28:01] three and a half million pages of
[00:28:02] material and they're just sort of
[00:28:05] blown out into public view, it's going
[00:28:07] to be very difficult to sort those,
[00:28:08] especially when a huge amount of this
[00:28:10] stuff is either irrelevant or is coming
[00:28:14] in through the tip line or is coming in
[00:28:16] through sources that can't be checked.
[00:28:19] Sarah Longwell uh put out a social media
[00:28:22] post that I think sort of encapsulated
[00:28:24] the day and the week and she said the
[00:28:26] situation in Minnesota is so bad that
[00:28:30] they would rather talk about Epstein.
[00:28:32] Right. Isn't that extraordinary?
[00:28:34] >> It is. And and this seems to be a case
[00:28:37] of buying time. Like it's like, "Oh,
[00:28:39] here's millions of documents for you to
[00:28:41] sort through. A lot of it will be
[00:28:42] impossible to sort through and we're
[00:28:43] going to keep millions more that you can
[00:28:45] never see."
[00:28:47] >> Okay. I'm sorry. This is just Do you
[00:28:50] want the documents? You don't want the
[00:28:51] documents. If you want the documents,
[00:28:52] you don't you don't get to complain.
[00:28:53] They're hard to sort through. So, you do
[00:28:55] an every diligence process, by the way.
[00:28:58] Now, there are five separate claims that
[00:29:00] are being basically made about Epstein.
[00:29:03] And I think that some of them are well
[00:29:06] substantiated and others of them are
[00:29:08] really not. And they're all being
[00:29:09] conflated into the giant Epstein overall
[00:29:11] theory. And I think that that's a
[00:29:13] problem because we ought to actually
[00:29:15] pursue the evidence where it takes us.
[00:29:17] So, one claim is obviously true. Epstein
[00:29:21] was connected with a lot of famous and
[00:29:22] rich people and many of them knew he was
[00:29:24] a pedophilic convict and they continued
[00:29:26] to hang out with him. That is
[00:29:27] undoubtedly true. That is undoubtedly
[00:29:29] true.
[00:29:32] Apparently, according to NBC News,
[00:29:34] documents released Friday by the Justice
[00:29:36] Department show at least 16 emails, for
[00:29:38] example, between Elon Musk and Epstein
[00:29:40] in 2012 and 2013, including multiple
[00:29:43] instances where Musk expressed interest
[00:29:45] in visiting Epstein's island. Musk wrote
[00:29:47] in an email to Epste in November 2012,
[00:29:49] quote, "What day or night will be the
[00:29:51] wildest party on your island?" And
[00:29:52] apparently, he sought to visit the
[00:29:54] island at least twice. Once in late 2012
[00:29:56] and again in late 2013.
[00:29:59] Now again, if if you look at the emails,
[00:30:01] it's really more Epstein pushing him
[00:30:03] hard to come than Elon out of the blue
[00:30:06] soliciting, can I come to your island?
[00:30:08] In one post on X, Musk said, I've never
[00:30:10] been to any Epstein parties ever. I have
[00:30:12] many times called for the prosecution of
[00:30:14] those who have committed crimes with
[00:30:15] Epstein. The asset test for justice is
[00:30:17] not the release of the files, but rather
[00:30:18] the prosecution of those who committed
[00:30:19] heinous crimes with Epstein. Okay, but
[00:30:21] that is assuming facts, not in evidence.
[00:30:23] Namely, that there is evidence to
[00:30:25] prosecute people who committed heinous
[00:30:27] crimes with Epste and those prosecutions
[00:30:28] have not yet been done. Right. Again,
[00:30:30] that that'll get to some of the other
[00:30:32] claims in just a moment. But the fact
[00:30:33] that people were continuing to hold on
[00:30:36] conversations with Jeffrey Epstein in
[00:30:38] 2012 after he plead guilty in 2008 to
[00:30:41] procuring an underage girl for
[00:30:42] prostitution and then registered as a
[00:30:44] sex offender is a problem. There was a
[00:30:47] copy of Epstein's daily schedule
[00:30:48] released September 26th by House
[00:30:50] Democrats and it showed that Musk was
[00:30:52] tentatively expected to visit Epste's
[00:30:54] island in December 2014.
[00:30:56] Musk said that the schedule entry was
[00:30:58] false. He said Epstein tried to get me
[00:31:00] to go to his island and I refused. But I
[00:31:03] mean it is it is incontrovertible. It is
[00:31:05] in it is non-contested that Epstein had
[00:31:07] relationships with a bunch of very rich
[00:31:09] and powerful people
[00:31:11] and that he did what a lot of con
[00:31:13] artists do which is he would use his
[00:31:14] association with certain rich people to
[00:31:16] get in bed with other rich people and
[00:31:18] then he would offer them perks or
[00:31:20] benefits and some would take them up and
[00:31:22] some would not. I think it is almost
[00:31:24] incontrovertible that Epstein probably
[00:31:26] connected some of these people with
[00:31:28] prostitutes.
[00:31:30] You know that that is in the files,
[00:31:32] right? He certainly did apparently with
[00:31:34] Prince Andrew, allegedly with Prince
[00:31:36] Andrew, is that he was hooking people up
[00:31:38] with women who were overage
[00:31:43] that we know from from some of the
[00:31:44] emails. We also know again that he was
[00:31:47] connected with a wide variety of
[00:31:48] powerful people ranging from Bill Gates
[00:31:50] to Kathy Rumler, the top lawyer at
[00:31:52] Goldman Sachs and White House counsel
[00:31:54] under former President Barack Obama. In
[00:31:56] December 2015, there was an email
[00:31:58] exchange where she said, "I adore him.
[00:32:00] It's like having another older brother.
[00:32:04] And so again, very highly connected. No
[00:32:06] shock here, right? Scumbag and former
[00:32:09] Israeli Prime Minister Ahoud Barack used
[00:32:11] to routinely stay at the New York
[00:32:13] apartment Jeffrey Epstein owned. Barack
[00:32:15] of course has been complicit in a wide
[00:32:17] variety of activities undermining the
[00:32:19] Israeli government. Actually,
[00:32:22] also there are reports that apparently
[00:32:26] Epstein sent an email to himself
[00:32:29] claiming that Bill Gates had obtained an
[00:32:32] STD
[00:32:34] from a prostitute and then passed it on
[00:32:36] to his wife. That is again according to
[00:32:38] an email that Epstein sent to file. The
[00:32:41] files include two draft emails dated
[00:32:43] July 18th, 2013, according to Newsweek,
[00:32:45] written from Epstein's own email address
[00:32:47] back to the same account with no
[00:32:48] indication they were ever sent or that
[00:32:50] Bill Gates ever received them. One draft
[00:32:52] takes the form of a resignation letter
[00:32:54] from the Bill and Melinda Gates
[00:32:55] Foundation alleging that medication had
[00:32:56] been procured for Gates to quote deal
[00:32:58] with the consequences of sex with
[00:32:59] Russian girls. The other begins, "Dear
[00:33:02] Bill," and accuses Gates of ending a
[00:33:03] friendship while repeating lurid claims
[00:33:05] he concealed an STD, including allegedly
[00:33:07] from his then wife, Melinda. Gates's
[00:33:09] spokesperson told the alleg said the
[00:33:11] allegations come from quote a proven
[00:33:12] disgruntled liar and reiterated they are
[00:33:14] absolutely absurd and completely false.
[00:33:16] But we know obviously that there have
[00:33:18] been troubles between Bill and Melinda
[00:33:19] Gates for a long time.
[00:33:23] Meanwhile, there is a report again these
[00:33:25] are unsubstantiated reports. So you try
[00:33:27] to you have to kind of look at the
[00:33:29] source of each one of the claims. is
[00:33:31] there's an un unsubstantiated report
[00:33:33] attributed to quote intelligence sources
[00:33:35] by the UK Daily Mail suggesting that
[00:33:38] Epstein was running the world's largest
[00:33:39] honey trap operation on behalf of the
[00:33:41] KGB, but there are there are no actual
[00:33:44] supporting documentary details that are
[00:33:46] provided in this piece. The files
[00:33:47] include over a thousand documents naming
[00:33:49] Russian President Vladimir Putin and
[00:33:51] almost 10,000 referring to Moscow and
[00:33:53] Epstein was able to secure audiences
[00:33:55] with Putin after his 2008 conviction.
[00:33:59] The sources say it could explain why
[00:34:00] Epste appeared to enjoy an ultra-wealthy
[00:34:02] lifestyle out of kilter with his career
[00:34:04] as a financeier. Although there's no
[00:34:06] documentary evidence linking Putin and
[00:34:07] his spies directly to Epste's elicit
[00:34:09] activities. Again, people are looking at
[00:34:10] smoke and I understand they want to look
[00:34:12] for fire. Okay, so here's the stuff that
[00:34:14] seems to be true. Again, Epstein
[00:34:17] connected with famous rich people who
[00:34:19] knew he was a pedophilic convict and
[00:34:20] continued to hang out with him. In some
[00:34:22] cases, continued to try to burnish his
[00:34:24] reputation and getting good with him.
[00:34:26] That would include Steve Bannon. Two
[00:34:28] hours of tape between Bannon and Epstein
[00:34:31] were released from interviews that
[00:34:34] happened some years ago. And this was in
[00:34:37] the part of Steve Bannon's career where
[00:34:38] he saw Epstein as a powerful connection.
[00:34:41] And a person presumably he was going to
[00:34:43] try to rehab
[00:34:47] there. Apparently 13 hours more of that
[00:34:49] that has not yet been released.
[00:34:53] It's kind of shocking to me that that
[00:34:55] Bannon basically was doing PR rehab on
[00:34:59] Jeffrey Epste and continues to go out
[00:35:01] there and be one of the main progenitors
[00:35:04] of the sort of Epstein. Dude, you should
[00:35:06] know better than anyone. You hung out
[00:35:07] with the guy. It's pretty impressive.
[00:35:10] Okay. Two, Epste connected some of these
[00:35:12] people with prostitutes. I think that
[00:35:14] that's quite likely. I mean, you assume
[00:35:17] that the parties he was holding on
[00:35:18] Epstein Island did include women, which
[00:35:20] is presumably why so many people, again,
[00:35:22] like Diddy White parties, why they
[00:35:23] wanted to go there? Now, is there
[00:35:26] evidence that he traffked underage girls
[00:35:28] to them? That's the part where the DOJ
[00:35:30] has yet to substantiate because the
[00:35:33] conviction of Jeffrey Epste and Glenn
[00:35:35] Maxwell was on the basis of him
[00:35:37] trafficking underage girls to himself
[00:35:39] and Glenn Maxwell obtaining underage
[00:35:40] girls for him. Okay. Then there is the
[00:35:43] correlary of that which is that Epstein
[00:35:44] was supposedly blackmailing these
[00:35:46] people. Again, we have yet to see any
[00:35:47] hard evidence of blackmail of these
[00:35:50] people, right? That evidence has not
[00:35:52] emerged. Maybe it's true and maybe it's
[00:35:54] not, but there's no evidence of it in a
[00:35:56] hard way at this point. There just
[00:35:57] isn't. And then the final corlary of
[00:35:59] that is the theory that Epstein was
[00:36:01] blackmailing them on behalf of a foreign
[00:36:03] power or a cadre of powerful people who
[00:36:05] are attempting to shape global policy.
[00:36:07] And that is not an evidence either.
[00:36:09] So again, I think it's very important in
[00:36:11] the Epstein scandal to try and
[00:36:13] distinguish what is true from what is
[00:36:15] supposed because those are not quite the
[00:36:17] same thing. And in the interest of
[00:36:18] accuracy, we should actually follow what
[00:36:20] is true and what is evidenced at this
[00:36:22] point. Again, we will follow where the
[00:36:23] evidence leads. But so far, the evidence
[00:36:26] of the more outlandish claims is scanty.
[00:36:28] And the evidence that this dude was
[00:36:29] trafficking with a bunch of his friends
[00:36:32] and very powerful people, the evidence
[00:36:33] there is very, very solid. And that
[00:36:36] evidence, unfortunately, is
[00:36:37] unsurprising. Meanwhile, in other news,
[00:36:40] ProPublica has now released the names of
[00:36:42] the Border Patrol agents who fired on
[00:36:45] Alex.
[00:36:47] And it turns out it's very awkward for
[00:36:49] everyone because as we have talked
[00:36:50] about, Border Patrol and ICE are both
[00:36:52] disproportionately Hispanic. So, it
[00:36:54] turns out the names of the people who
[00:36:56] fired are both Hispanic.
[00:36:58] You know, that kind of gives the lie to
[00:37:00] the idea that ICE and Border Patrol,
[00:37:01] it's all about racism, racism.
[00:37:04] Meanwhile, one court actually got it
[00:37:06] right. In Minnesota district court
[00:37:08] denied, Attorney General Keith Ellison's
[00:37:10] request for a temporary restraining
[00:37:12] order against ICE. They said based on
[00:37:15] the record before the court, a
[00:37:16] factfinder could reasonably credit that
[00:37:17] plaintiff's sanctuary policies require a
[00:37:19] greater presence of federal agents to
[00:37:21] achieve the federal government's
[00:37:22] immigration enforcement objectives than
[00:37:24] in a jurisdiction that actively assists
[00:37:25] ICE. That of course is true. Ellison had
[00:37:27] been trying to boot ICE out of
[00:37:28] Minneapolis on the basis that they don't
[00:37:30] have the legal authority to go
[00:37:32] effectuate the law and the district
[00:37:34] court judge said no. But there is
[00:37:36] another judge who decided to really go
[00:37:38] after it. This judge is in the district
[00:37:41] court for the western district of Texas
[00:37:43] San Antonio division. His name is Fred
[00:37:46] Berry and he wrote what has to be one of
[00:37:49] the most incipid responses to a case
[00:37:52] that I have seen in recent memory. The
[00:37:54] case is about an asylum seeker named
[00:37:57] Adrien Konjo Aras and his 5-year-old
[00:37:59] son. Now, you remember that these folks
[00:38:01] came up a couple of weeks ago because
[00:38:02] there was a picture of this kid being
[00:38:04] held outside of an ICE vehicle, and that
[00:38:06] was because he had been arrested along
[00:38:08] with his dad, and apparently his dad
[00:38:10] took off down the street. Well, now he
[00:38:13] has been ordered for release.
[00:38:16] The judge decided this was time for some
[00:38:18] performative judicial antics. He wrote,
[00:38:20] quote, "The case has its genesis in the
[00:38:22] ill-conceived and incompetently
[00:38:24] implemented government pursuit of daily
[00:38:25] deportation quotas, apparently even if
[00:38:27] it requires traumatizing children." You
[00:38:29] may notice this has nothing to do with
[00:38:30] legal analysis. That is just a political
[00:38:32] take. This court and others regularly
[00:38:34] send undocumented people to prison and
[00:38:36] orders them deported, but do so by
[00:38:38] proper legal procedures. Apparent also
[00:38:40] is the government's ignorance of an
[00:38:41] American historical document called the
[00:38:43] Declaration of Independence. This judge,
[00:38:46] okay, judges, don't do this. This sort
[00:38:49] of Katanji Brown Jackson performative
[00:38:50] nonsense is just ridiculous. It's
[00:38:52] ridiculous. You know, it says on the
[00:38:54] base of the Statue of Liberty.
[00:38:58] Could you be a lawyer for like half a
[00:38:59] second? You want to run for office? Run
[00:39:00] for office. But this is really silly.
[00:39:03] 33-year-old Thomas Jefferson writes this
[00:39:06] judge enumerated grievances against a
[00:39:08] would-be authoritarian king over our
[00:39:10] nation. And then bunch of quotes a bunch
[00:39:14] of quotes about from the declaration.
[00:39:17] quote
[00:39:18] civic lesson to the government.
[00:39:19] Administrative warrants issued by the
[00:39:21] executive branch to itself do not pass
[00:39:24] probable cause muster. That is called
[00:39:25] the fox guarding the hen house. The
[00:39:27] constitution requires an independent
[00:39:28] judicial officer.
[00:39:31] Accordingly, the court finds the
[00:39:32] constitution trumps this
[00:39:33] administration's detention of prisoner
[00:39:34] Adrien Konarayas and his minor son. The
[00:39:38] great writ and release from detention
[00:39:39] are granted pursuant to the attached
[00:39:41] judgment. Well, there there's a problem
[00:39:42] with this. Yeah, there's a problem with
[00:39:44] this, which is administrative warrants
[00:39:46] have been used by every administration,
[00:39:47] including the Obama administration in
[00:39:49] order to effectuate deportations.
[00:39:52] This judge condemned the quote
[00:39:53] perfidious lust for unbridled power and
[00:39:55] the imposition of cruelty.
[00:39:59] But of course, the Department of
[00:40:00] Homeland Security said that the asylum
[00:40:03] charge was was basically false. That b
[00:40:06] this person claimed asylum. This is what
[00:40:07] you did, by the way, under the Biden
[00:40:09] administration. You showed up at the
[00:40:10] southern border. He said, "I have
[00:40:11] credible threat to fear of my life and I
[00:40:14] need I need entry." And the
[00:40:16] administration under Biden, instead of
[00:40:18] actually investigating asylum before
[00:40:20] taking people in, decided to just
[00:40:22] release them into the interior.
[00:40:25] The administration says Liam, the son,
[00:40:27] was not targeted or arrested. Kaneo
[00:40:29] Arios has asked that his son remain with
[00:40:31] him after he tried to flee from federal
[00:40:32] immigration agents.
[00:40:35] This was reiterated by a spokesperson
[00:40:36] for Homeland Security. Quote, "The
[00:40:38] alleged mother refused to accept custody
[00:40:39] of the child. The father told officers
[00:40:41] he wanted the child to remain with him.
[00:40:43] So apparently it looks from the
[00:40:44] administration's point of view as though
[00:40:46] dad kept the kid with him specifically
[00:40:48] in order to obtain his own release."
[00:40:51] Berry, of course, is appointed by Bill
[00:40:53] Clinton.
[00:40:55] Administrative warrants have typically
[00:40:58] been used for effectuation of
[00:40:59] deportation orders, meaning you can
[00:41:01] arrest somebody in a public area. The
[00:41:02] question, more controversial question of
[00:41:04] whether an administrative warrant or a
[00:41:06] judicial warrant is necessary to knock
[00:41:07] down a door for example or do a full
[00:41:09] fourth amendment search. That is a more
[00:41:11] controversial issue. That is not what
[00:41:12] happened here. This is an arrest in a
[00:41:14] public place.
[00:41:16] If the idea is that administrative
[00:41:18] warrants cannot be used in order to
[00:41:20] effectuate deportations, basically that
[00:41:22] ends all deportations in the United
[00:41:24] States, which may in fact be the goal.
[00:41:27] Secretary of Homeland Security Christy
[00:41:29] Gnome said, "Listen, this was about like
[00:41:30] they wanted the kid to be with the dad.
[00:41:32] That's why the kid was picked up. There
[00:41:34] she was on Fox and Friends.
[00:41:36] >> Let me be clear. These families always
[00:41:38] get the opportunity to stay together.
[00:41:40] This child has been with his father,
[00:41:41] which was the father's choice. We
[00:41:43] offered them the opportunity to go home
[00:41:45] uh to send them back to their home
[00:41:47] country if they would like to. The
[00:41:48] father chose to stay and therefore we're
[00:41:51] following the legal process." Uh but
[00:41:53] it's shocking to me the media's lies
[00:41:55] about not just that story but day after
[00:41:58] day after day about what we do for work
[00:42:00] in this country to bring people that are
[00:42:03] dangerous criminals to justice and then
[00:42:05] remove them from our country uh if they
[00:42:07] don't belong here if they came here
[00:42:09] illegally.
[00:42:12] >> Well again she's not wrong about that.
[00:42:14] Meanwhile Don Lemon has been released
[00:42:16] and this is the best thing that has
[00:42:17] happened in Don Lemon's career for quite
[00:42:19] a while. He was fired from CNN and then
[00:42:22] he started his own independent
[00:42:23] journalistic outlet and I used the term
[00:42:25] journalistic there lightly. He says he's
[00:42:27] not going to stop ever. He'll never
[00:42:29] stop. You can't stop Don Lemon. Don
[00:42:31] Lemon is a hero according to Don Lemon.
[00:42:34] Don Lemon loves Don Lemon. Here we go.
[00:42:37] >> I will not stop now.
[00:42:41] In fact,
[00:42:43] there is no more important time than
[00:42:45] right now. this very moment for a free
[00:42:48] and independent media that shines a
[00:42:51] light on the truth and holds those in
[00:42:53] power accountable. Again, I will not
[00:42:55] stop now. I will not stop ever.
[00:43:00] Well, that that is why that is why he is
[00:43:01] a happy camper. He also said that he is
[00:43:03] not worried legally speaking.
[00:43:06] >> If you think that I was outspoken before
[00:43:09] this, [laughter]
[00:43:13] just wait.
[00:43:15] Just wait. So, I know that there are
[00:43:17] people who think like, oh, you know, do
[00:43:18] this and um you know that I'm gonna be
[00:43:22] locked up or whatever. I ain't worried
[00:43:24] about that.
[00:43:27] You heard the truth and the truth shall
[00:43:28] make you free. I ain't even worried
[00:43:30] about that. Like, not
[00:43:33] even think about it,
[00:43:36] man. He Were you worried about him? Were
[00:43:38] you He You can't shut down Lemon up.
[00:43:40] Nothing can shut down Lemon up. That
[00:43:43] just won't stop.
[00:43:45] Honestly, if there was an error here by
[00:43:47] the Trump administration, it was in just
[00:43:49] maximizing his platform and giving him
[00:43:52] credibility because my goodness, by the
[00:43:54] way, the the indictment has now been
[00:43:55] released. The DOJ accuses Lemon of
[00:43:58] conspiring and agreeing with one another
[00:44:00] to injure, oppress, threaten, and
[00:44:02] intimidate multiple persons, including
[00:44:03] clergy, staff, and congregants of city's
[00:44:05] church. Defendant Lemon told his
[00:44:07] liveream audience about congregants
[00:44:08] leaving the church and about a young man
[00:44:10] who Lemon could see was frightened and
[00:44:11] scared and crying. and Lemon observed
[00:44:12] the congregants's reaction were
[00:44:14] understandable because the experience
[00:44:15] was traumatic and uncomfortable, which
[00:44:16] he said was the purpose.
[00:44:19] Defendant Lemon said he was not saying
[00:44:21] what's going on and advised his live
[00:44:22] stream audience, "We're going to head to
[00:44:23] the operation. Again, we're not going to
[00:44:24] give away any of the information away."
[00:44:28] Now, we'll have to see what evidence
[00:44:29] they show of sort of prior involvement.
[00:44:31] So it is true that journalists, people
[00:44:35] who claim first amendment privilege,
[00:44:37] they can ride along with a criminal as
[00:44:40] long as they are not effectuating. They
[00:44:42] they do not have a duty to report in
[00:44:45] order where criminals are what they are
[00:44:47] doing. What they do have a duty to do is
[00:44:50] not to aid and abet criminality. So
[00:44:53] you're actually going to have to show
[00:44:54] that lemon aid and abetted criminality.
[00:44:55] We'll see how this plays out in a court
[00:44:57] of law. President Trump, for his part,
[00:44:59] he he enjoys the conflict, obviously. He
[00:45:01] says that Don Lemon is a washed up
[00:45:02] sleeves bag. Well, you know,
[00:45:06] >> no, I don't know anything about the Don
[00:45:07] Lemon thing, but he's a sleeves bag.
[00:45:09] Everyone's known that he's a wash up.
[00:45:12] Probably from his standpoint,
[00:45:15] the best thing that could happen to him,
[00:45:16] he's getting, you know, he had no
[00:45:18] viewers. He had was a failure. He was a
[00:45:20] failed host. And now he's uh he's in the
[00:45:24] news. I didn't know anything about it.
[00:45:28] And well, you know, President Trump does
[00:45:29] enjoy these sorts of high-profile
[00:45:31] conflicts. So, I guess we'll get more of
[00:45:33] that. Meanwhile, other cities, not just
[00:45:35] Minneapolis, are considering attempts to
[00:45:37] obstruct federal law enforcement.
[00:45:40] Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson put out a
[00:45:43] series of images on Instagram in which
[00:45:45] she she says that she will direct
[00:45:47] Seattle PD to investigate, verify, and
[00:45:49] document ICE activity, prohibit ICE from
[00:45:52] staging operations on city property,
[00:45:54] establish the stand together Seattle
[00:45:56] initiative.
[00:45:58] And all of this is dangerous stuff
[00:45:59] because when you're talking about SPD
[00:46:02] obstructing ICE, now you're talking
[00:46:03] about actual nullification of law. If
[00:46:06] dispatched to a location where ICE
[00:46:07] activity is underway, Seattle PD will
[00:46:10] apparently cooperate with city
[00:46:12] departments and trusted community
[00:46:13] organizations to ensure everyone has the
[00:46:15] latest and most accurate information
[00:46:16] about ICE activities. So now SPD is
[00:46:18] going to facilitate lawb breakaking.
[00:46:22] This is this is dangerous stuff.
[00:46:24] Obviously Philadelphia is apparently
[00:46:26] doing the same.
[00:46:29] Philly is introducing ICE out
[00:46:32] legislation. The Philadelphia City
[00:46:33] Council
[00:46:35] apparently is promoting legislation
[00:46:39] that will prevent local law enforcement
[00:46:42] from working in any way, shape, or form
[00:46:44] with the feds. Jasmine Rivera, the
[00:46:46] executive director of the Pennsylvania
[00:46:47] Immigration Coalition, said there
[00:46:48] shouldn't be a single dime of
[00:46:50] Philadelphia tax dollars and not a
[00:46:51] single second of Philadelphia workers
[00:46:52] collaborating with an agency that is
[00:46:54] stomping all over the Constitution. The
[00:46:57] bills would prohibit ICE and other law
[00:46:59] enforcement agents from concealing their
[00:47:00] identities with face masks and using
[00:47:02] unmarked vehicles. It would not allow
[00:47:04] city agencies to collaborate with ICE
[00:47:05] and would prevent them from collecting
[00:47:07] immigration status and sharing data with
[00:47:08] ICE among other things. Now again, the
[00:47:11] federal government can't force local law
[00:47:12] enforcement to do federal immigration
[00:47:15] law. But if you decide that you're going
[00:47:18] to make it easier for people to get away
[00:47:19] with violation of federal immigration
[00:47:21] law, you shouldn't be surprised when
[00:47:22] more ICE agents show up to effectuate
[00:47:24] it.
[00:47:26] Attorney General Leticia James in New
[00:47:27] York had said something similar in
[00:47:28] October 2025.
[00:47:31] Meanwhile, Los Angeles has also promoted
[00:47:33] a mask ban. This is Gavin Newsome has
[00:47:35] done that that they would ban federal
[00:47:37] agents from being able to wear masks.
[00:47:40] The LAPD chief actually came out and his
[00:47:42] name is Jim McDonald. He said, "Uh, what
[00:47:44] are we supposed to do now? Like, is LAPD
[00:47:46] supposed to walk up to federal officers
[00:47:47] and unmask them? What are they supposed
[00:47:49] to do?"
[00:47:51] the reality of uh one armed agency
[00:47:54] approaching another armed agency to
[00:47:56] create conflict over something that
[00:47:58] would be a misdemeanor at best or an
[00:48:00] infraction. Uh it doesn't make any
[00:48:02] sense.
[00:48:05] >> Hey, that is of course true, but that's
[00:48:07] not going to stop the performative
[00:48:08] politics. Representative Maxine Waters,
[00:48:10] one of our most corrupt members of
[00:48:11] Congress, she was out there on the LA
[00:48:13] street saying she is not going away,
[00:48:14] which by the way is actively technically
[00:48:16] true with regard to her political
[00:48:17] career. She has now been in Congress
[00:48:19] for, I believe, several millennia.
[00:48:23] >> What is your message to ICE agents?
[00:48:25] >> ICE agents, we don't want you in Los
[00:48:27] Angeles. And we thought you had sense
[00:48:30] enough with the president to start
[00:48:32] getting out of Minneapolis, but I guess
[00:48:34] you have no sense and you don't
[00:48:36] understand the power of the people. We
[00:48:38] are not going away. We don't want you in
[00:48:41] any of our cities in this country and
[00:48:44] we're going to fight you every inch of
[00:48:46] the way.
[00:48:49] So, Democrats having some fun with all
[00:48:51] of this despite the fact that it or
[00:48:53] maybe because of the fact that it
[00:48:54] obstructs federal law. Now, how is this
[00:48:57] having a bearing on our politics in
[00:48:59] terms of sort of general politics? None
[00:49:01] of this is great for Republicans is the
[00:49:03] truth. This has not redowned its
[00:49:04] Republican benefit yet. Now, again, it
[00:49:05] may it may be the Democrats overstep and
[00:49:07] Americans get sick of watching bad money
[00:49:09] condemn them for wanting immigration law
[00:49:11] enforced and all the rest. For the
[00:49:12] moment, however, Democrats definitely
[00:49:14] have the momentum. In Texas, there was a
[00:49:17] state senate seat that was up in a
[00:49:19] special election on Saturday. It was in
[00:49:21] a reliably Republican district that
[00:49:23] President Trump won by 17 points in
[00:49:25] 2024. A Democrat named Taylor Remmit
[00:49:28] defeated a Republican named Lee Wamsgans
[00:49:31] in the Fort Worth area district. So, it
[00:49:34] was a 17-point victory in that district
[00:49:36] for Trump 2024. It flipped to 14 plus
[00:49:40] for D plus 14 in that district. That is
[00:49:43] a 31 point shift in that district.
[00:49:46] So, Democrats so far have in fact been
[00:49:49] winning a bunch of special elections all
[00:49:50] over the country, not just in blue
[00:49:52] areas, not just in purple areas and red
[00:49:53] areas as well.
[00:49:56] The Democrats are very happy about it.
[00:49:58] DNC chair Ken Martin called it a warning
[00:50:00] sign to Republicans across the country.
[00:50:03] Democratic candidates have won special
[00:50:04] elections in Kentucky and Iowa. You
[00:50:07] remember that there was an election for
[00:50:08] Congress in Tennessee, the special
[00:50:10] election where Matt Van Eps won, but his
[00:50:12] margin of victory was significantly
[00:50:14] slimmer than Republican margin of
[00:50:16] victory in past elections.
[00:50:18] One of the problems for Republicans is
[00:50:20] that when you look at the stats in this
[00:50:21] seat, it was independents and even some
[00:50:23] Republicans who flipped Democrat in that
[00:50:25] particular election. People who had
[00:50:26] voted in a Republican primary who
[00:50:27] flipped Democrat.
[00:50:29] So Republican momentum going into 2026,
[00:50:32] let's say it has significantly slowed.
[00:50:33] This, by the way, does have some
[00:50:35] implications for the Texas Senate seat,
[00:50:37] like the federal Senate seat from Texas,
[00:50:40] because there is an a very hot primary
[00:50:42] that is currently going on in the Texas
[00:50:45] Senate
[00:50:47] between
[00:50:49] the current Texas Senator John Cornin,
[00:50:54] Ken Paxton, the extraordinarily
[00:50:56] controversial
[00:50:59] attorney general of the state of Texas,
[00:51:03] Wesley Hunt, who's a congressperson in
[00:51:05] Texas right now. Paxton and Cornin are
[00:51:08] stuck in a dead heat. There have been
[00:51:09] multiple polls done over the past couple
[00:51:10] of months and they show Paxton at 29 and
[00:51:14] Cornin at 29. Wesley Hunt trailing a
[00:51:16] little bit at 19%.
[00:51:18] Let's just say Ken Paxton has a
[00:51:19] significantly lower shot of winning that
[00:51:21] Seny than Cornin. Cornin has won that
[00:51:22] tenency repeatedly. The current polling
[00:51:24] shows him with a slight lead over James
[00:51:26] Terico who is the likely Senate nominee
[00:51:28] for the Democrats.
[00:51:30] If it's Ken Paxton, maybe Paxton wins. I
[00:51:33] mean, polling very often tends to be
[00:51:36] warmer to Democrats than reality is in
[00:51:38] Texas. With that said, do you want to
[00:51:40] take that risk in a time where
[00:51:42] Republicans drop four seats and they
[00:51:43] lose the Senate? Again, when you look at
[00:51:46] that 2026 Senate map, that is not a
[00:51:48] Senate map that looks great for
[00:51:50] Republicans right now.
[00:51:52] Republicans have a bunch of seats that
[00:51:54] that are up that are that are not going
[00:51:57] to look amazing for them. They have one
[00:52:00] in North Carolina that is a rough race.
[00:52:01] They've won in Ohio that is a rough
[00:52:03] race.
[00:52:06] They they they have one in Iowa that has
[00:52:09] now become significantly rougher. Texas
[00:52:10] is up as well
[00:52:13] and one in Maine. These sorts of seats
[00:52:16] are um risky at best, shall we say, for
[00:52:19] for Republicans. So why take additional
[00:52:22] risk would sort of be the the question.
[00:52:24] Well, among the things I like is a brand
[00:52:26] new book and it's out February 10th
[00:52:27] called A Better Life by Lionel
[00:52:29] Shrivever. Lionel Shrivever, of course,
[00:52:30] you know her work, most famously her
[00:52:32] book, We Need to Talk About Kevin, but
[00:52:33] she's written a huge variety of of books
[00:52:36] and articles that are just spectacular.
[00:52:38] A better life is maybe her most
[00:52:39] controversial book yet. Lionel Traver,
[00:52:40] thanks so much for joining the show. I
[00:52:41] really appreciate it.
[00:52:43] >> Oh, I'm pleased to talk to you.
[00:52:47] >> So, why don't we begin with with sort of
[00:52:48] the premise of the book? Obviously, this
[00:52:50] one is going to set the world on fire
[00:52:52] because it really does attempt, I think,
[00:52:55] to encapsulate so much of the
[00:52:56] immigration debate, but basically in one
[00:52:58] house and one family. What What's the
[00:53:00] premise of the book?
[00:53:03] Well, in 2023 in real life, uh, Mayor
[00:53:07] Eric Adams in New York proposed uh, a
[00:53:12] method of dealing with the inundation of
[00:53:14] the city with tens of thousands and what
[00:53:18] became hundreds of thousands of migrants
[00:53:21] [clears throat] thanks to Joe Biden's
[00:53:23] open border. So he suggested that maybe
[00:53:27] New Yorkers could put migrants up in
[00:53:30] their spare bedrooms and he would pay
[00:53:32] them to do that. Now Adams never
[00:53:35] actuated this program, but it did give
[00:53:38] me ideas. So I actuated the program. Uh
[00:53:42] in my novel, there's a family in Dipmas
[00:53:46] Park in Brooklyn. uh they have a big
[00:53:49] house with plenty of spare bedrooms and
[00:53:53] they decide to take in one migrant but
[00:53:57] it doesn't stay one migrant and I I am
[00:54:02] willing to concede that the house is a
[00:54:04] metaphor for our country
[00:54:09] and I think that that is is what's so
[00:54:11] kind of amazing about the book is that
[00:54:13] what you do in the book is you use the
[00:54:15] house as a metaphor and you sort of use
[00:54:17] the family to examine a wide variety of
[00:54:19] beliefs about immigration, but the
[00:54:20] central character is actually the son.
[00:54:23] So that it's a mom and the mom is the
[00:54:25] one who's kind of a a typical what what
[00:54:27] the the right would call a soy drinking
[00:54:29] latte liberal who decides that she is
[00:54:31] going to take in this migrant out of out
[00:54:33] of sympathy. And the son is really
[00:54:35] ticked off by this, but is so innovated
[00:54:37] in his own life and so sort of lazy
[00:54:38] about his own life that he can't even
[00:54:40] make an excuse as to why he thinks it's
[00:54:41] bad that the house is being taken over.
[00:54:43] And that I think is is sort of the
[00:54:44] central tragedy and theme of the book.
[00:54:46] Now,
[00:54:48] >> yes, I mean it uh it's a complication uh
[00:54:52] in terms of the um the whole perspective
[00:54:55] of the book because
[00:54:57] my um protagonist and I say protagonist
[00:55:00] loosely because protagonists usually
[00:55:02] make things happen and he basically
[00:55:03] doesn't.
[00:55:05] Um my protagonist is um living at home
[00:55:09] at 26. He's got a college education but
[00:55:12] he's not doing anything with it. He has
[00:55:14] absolutely no interest in becoming an
[00:55:16] adult. And I found myself uh strangely
[00:55:21] sympathetic with this character the more
[00:55:24] I wrote him even though I'm a kind of
[00:55:27] standard. Um
[00:55:31] I'm a I I believe in hard work and you
[00:55:34] know but I I could see how he wouldn't
[00:55:38] have an appetite for becoming a
[00:55:41] grown-up. Um, so he resents the
[00:55:45] dependency of the migrant population.
[00:55:48] All these people pouring into New York,
[00:55:50] depending on New York tax taxpayers, and
[00:55:53] he's not a New York taxpayer, though his
[00:55:55] mother is. Uh, and and expecting other
[00:55:58] people to take care of them. But that's
[00:56:02] what Nico, my friend Nico is, is also a
[00:56:05] dependent. He's a mooch. And uh, he's
[00:56:10] dependent on his mother. He's dependent.
[00:56:12] He's also dependent on New York
[00:56:14] taxpayers, ironically. Um, so and and
[00:56:18] he's representative of an aspect of our
[00:56:22] country that isn't taking responsibility
[00:56:26] for the country's adulthood, that isn't
[00:56:29] contributing, that isn't having
[00:56:31] children, for example. And by the way,
[00:56:34] this is your author, The Hypocrite, who
[00:56:36] hasn't had children either. Um but
[00:56:39] that's that's not planning for tomorrow.
[00:56:42] And um it's that's one of the reasons
[00:56:45] that we're constantly being given now
[00:56:48] that we need an open border that we need
[00:56:50] as many uh immigrants from wherever and
[00:56:54] no matter who they are uh just to uh put
[00:56:58] bums on seats in the country that uh we
[00:57:01] have to uh because otherwise we're going
[00:57:04] to disappear because we're we have too
[00:57:06] low a fertility rate. So and and so you
[00:57:10] know if you take a look at the my family
[00:57:13] the family I've constructed there are
[00:57:16] three children three adult children in
[00:57:18] the family two of them female
[00:57:22] nobody's had kids
[00:57:25] right so who's going to inherit the
[00:57:28] house eventually
[00:57:30] and that and that I that I think is the
[00:57:31] is the thing about the the book that
[00:57:33] really is astonishing in in a lot of
[00:57:35] ways is that again your central
[00:57:36] character Nico it it It it makes the
[00:57:38] conflict so much more interesting that
[00:57:39] you chose a central character who
[00:57:41] doesn't know how to defend his
[00:57:42] civilization, doesn't feel a necessity
[00:57:44] to do so, doesn't doesn't feel the
[00:57:45] necessity to work, has a sort of belief
[00:57:47] that by birthright this is his, but he
[00:57:50] doesn't actually have to justify that
[00:57:51] birthright. And therefore, he has no
[00:57:52] systemic immunity other than a sort of
[00:57:55] xenophobia to why people shouldn't be in
[00:57:57] his house. And that that isn't enough, I
[00:57:59] think, is is sort of the case that
[00:58:00] you're making that if you actually wish
[00:58:02] to defend the house or the civilization.
[00:58:04] And you have a couple characters who
[00:58:05] articulate this. You actually have to
[00:58:06] have babies. You actually have to go and
[00:58:07] produce. You have to work. You have to
[00:58:08] say like this is ours. And if you're not
[00:58:11] willing to say if you're not willing to
[00:58:12] act in a way that says that a thing is
[00:58:13] yours, then you shouldn't be surprised
[00:58:15] when people not only try to take it, but
[00:58:16] when you have no capacity to defend it.
[00:58:20] >> That's right. As a matter of fact, uh
[00:58:23] the thinking in the better a better life
[00:58:26] connects very directly with the thinking
[00:58:29] in your own book, Lions and Scavengers,
[00:58:32] because Nico is a scavenger.
[00:58:36] And
[00:58:38] the immigrants are lions,
[00:58:40] right? They're coming after what is his.
[00:58:44] And he doesn't defend it. He defends it
[00:58:47] in his mind. He defends it as an as a an
[00:58:52] abstract argument, but not in terms of
[00:58:55] what he's doing. He doesn't work. He's
[00:58:58] not
[00:59:00] making another generation.
[00:59:02] He's just using the resources that and
[00:59:05] the civilization that has been built for
[00:59:07] him. He's using it. He's in fact in a
[00:59:12] way using it up, but and he's taking it
[00:59:15] for granted. as I'm as a lot of younger
[00:59:18] people do. I mean, it's one of the
[00:59:20] things that um we have to contend with
[00:59:23] as our country turns 250 years old.
[00:59:29] It is now in its maturity. It's no
[00:59:31] longer really a young country anymore.
[00:59:34] And an older country has different
[00:59:37] problems. We have a history of of being,
[00:59:43] you know, explorers, adventurers, rugged
[00:59:46] individualists,
[00:59:48] um, uh, looking for, you know, brave new
[00:59:51] worlds, a Star Trek. Uh, but we're we
[00:59:55] have evolved a culture which is much
[00:59:57] more static. We've got this one little
[01:00:00] layer of tech that's still out there
[01:00:04] finding brave new worlds with AI, etc.
[01:00:07] But the the abundance of the country is
[01:00:13] has become very placid and I would have
[01:00:16] to say neurotic.
[01:00:20] Well, the book again is a better life.
[01:00:22] The author is Lionel Shrivever. It's
[01:00:23] going to be the most controversial book
[01:00:24] of the year by far. I've had the
[01:00:26] opportunity to read it, so I can say
[01:00:27] that it is it is phenomenal and
[01:00:30] fascinating as all of her books are.
[01:00:32] Lionel, thanks so much for the time.
[01:00:33] Really appreciate it.
[01:00:35] I really enjoyed talking to you.
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[01:00:56] >> What was it like, Merlin, to be alone
[01:01:00] with God?
[01:01:02] [screaming]
[01:01:05] Is that who you think I was alone with?
[01:01:11] >> Madin, I knew your father. I am yet
[01:01:14] convinced that he was not of this world.
[01:01:19] >> All men know of the great Talasin.
[01:01:22] >> You are my [laughter] father. That the
[01:01:24] gods should war for my soul.
[01:01:27] >> Princess Garis, savior of our people.
[01:01:32] I know what the bull god offered you.
[01:01:35] >> I was offered the same.
[01:01:37] >> And
[01:01:38] >> there is a new power at work in the
[01:01:40] world. I've seen it.
[01:01:42] >> A god who [music] sacrifices what he
[01:01:44] loves for us.
[01:01:45] >> We are each given only one life. Singer.
[01:01:48] >> No. And we're given another. [music]
[01:01:53] >> I learned of Yazu the Christ. And I have
[01:01:56] become his follower.
[01:01:57] >> He's waiting on a miracle. And I think
[01:01:59] you can give him one.
[01:02:00] >> Trust in Yazu. He is the only hope for
[01:02:03] men like us.
[01:02:05] >> Fate of Britain [music] never rests in
[01:02:06] the hands of the great light.
[01:02:08] >> Great light, great darkness. Such things
[01:02:11] mattered to me then.
[01:02:13] >> What matters to you now, mistress of
[01:02:15] lies?
[01:02:17] >> You, nephew,
[01:02:21] the sword of a high king.
[01:02:25] >> [screaming]
[01:02:26] >> How many lives must be lost before you
[01:02:28] accept the power you were born to wield?
[01:02:33] Still clinging to the promises of a god
[01:02:35] who has abandoned you.
[01:02:36] >> I cannot take up [music] that sword
[01:02:38] again.
[01:02:39] >> You know what you must do.
[01:02:43] >> Great light, forgive me.
[01:02:52] The time has come to be reborn.
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